CONFLICTING INTEREST! - Herbstreit on NIL & different conferences priorities | The Pat McAfee Show

The future of the college football landscape ladies and gentlemen the ever handsome former president of Ohio K K [Music] [Applause] Street when did we move over to former AJ you and I I don't know I don't know who the current is right now actually tell you the truth oh really who would it be it's Kirk has always been I think Kirk is the sitting president until he decides to no no that's you bu I mean that's you coair General but Kirk you're aiming that question at the wrong person on this screen AJ was the one that told us that you guys are no longer president of the state of Ohio I just want to let you know that yeah yeah Bingo okay and take it back who won the award is Bobby Carpenter taking that taking the ring he's the general he's not president there's president there's a general you got always yeah he did get another star uh we were just talking about Connor stallions documentary that came out on Netflix Untold some behind the scenes stuff I think we got to know a little bit more about Conor stallions he literally was one of the most obsessed humans I've ever seen when it comes to doing what he thought was going to maybe expedite his career going to the top legitimately now did Jim Harbaugh know I don't think anything in there tells anybody that he did if he didn't know I don't think anything in there reaffirms whatever the case we're it caught in between a time period now of college football of like yesterday where we're suspending people for tampering but then we're also giving millions of dollars and inis and Deals and then we're also trying to get to tomorrow what are your thoughts on where we are right now how quickly does it come together and what do you think about some of these like Demarco muray suspended a game Kirk suspended a game this Michigan stuff is going to happen at some point this year what do you think about yesterday and tomorrow kind of meeting in the college football space that we're in right now Herby I I heard you talking about it I think eventually the only answer is to try to have some kind of CBA or some kind of an agreement with the players and the future of of the sport which would be you know this this big division of college football that eventually is going to be settled you I don't think we're settled yet I I still think we're a year or two away from finally having okay this is it you know you know what's going to happen with the ACC you know if if they end up these some of these schools get out what's is the ACC going to exist are they going to stay in the ACC so I think we need some answers there but yeah I think you know you and I talked with Charlie Baker we listened to him you know I think he's steering the Titanic I don't think this is something that just because he is a Savvy guy and a guy that I think is very impressive I don't think he can untangle this web just like that you know not to mention you got to deal with the power Brokers of the sport which are the conference Commissioners in the big conferences in the Big 10 and the SEC and the others so I I don't think it's an easy thing you know that that's why at some point it wouldn't it be great to have just one voice you know one commissioner that would be able to run this Sport and his office would be able to care about the entire sport the reason I think we are where we are if you have conflicting interests you know what what they care about you know in the Mountain West or let's say the Big The totality of the sport 12 or the SEC or the everybody's worried about their jurisdiction you know their chancellors presidents head coaches players fans they're constituents that's it that's all they're worried about they're not worried about the totality of the sport so it's very hard to move the sport forward when you have all these different agendas and all these different people looking at it through a different lens so until we get everybody looking through one lens you're going to have this not to mention the nil space the rules in Alabama versus Ohio versus California Texas versus Louisiana versus everything's different so we we need some kind of federal rule that's going to say here's the rule for nil or we need a CBA to say because right now it's just do whatever you want in Louisiana oh over there in Michigan you guys got to watch out you get you can only do this and so how do you how do you move forward when there's just so much it's not an easy thing to just come up with an answer so that's why you get some of this stuff but according to what we heard from Charlie some of this small stuff uh Hey like you were referring to You're Gonna I bought him a cheeseburger or you know here here's a hat like I think that stuff's going to go away the petty stuff but um how we get there ultimately I I think we're all kind of scratching our head wondering if Charlie Baker I don't know if he has the authority without Greg sanki and Tony petiti and other conference Commissioners getting on board right now I feel like they're more powerful in college football than the NCAA is is Charlie Baker the right guy to maybe do it though like you know yeah because after listening to him speaking like his vision it's like I think maybe he would be one of the humans that I think I would put in there sanki obviously is another name that'll get mentioned petiti is a name that'll get mentioned sabin's name is obviously going to get mentioned because of his connections I think I heard your name get mentioned before not by Florida State people but by a lot of other people in this entire thing and I think it's going to take place it is quite a quagmire right now The excitement for Week 1 of college football for certain uh but I think it's going to get figured out because the popul or popularity of the sport through the roof you see the numbers for Georgia Tech Florida State 5 million that's the biggest week zero game ever people yearning for college football loving that real football is happening college game days numbers are huge anything associated with college football big anything associated with football big it's a beautiful time in our sport so that's why I hope these Petty things don't continue to pop up because every time a petty thing pops up we have bring up all the like we have to bring up this is just a stupid thing because the sport the tradition the fans the players the coaches it is wonderful and more people are watching it now than ever Kirk and this 12 team playoff is a big piece of that entire conversation I think yeah I I think that and I I think the Summers get long you know I think we get excited for the start of football the what you guys represent every day on your show when you football I think that represents what we all feel you know it's it's just exciting to see games back I mean week zero you know there are people watching you know not just Florida State uh play against Georgia Tech but they're they're watching all these games there was like three or four I think Nevada was playing SMU Gumpy of course that guy he follows every game anybody who plays anything my man is dialed in on that's right you got take advantage of those books L on the plane with the Lobos that was awesome that was a blast by the way but yeah uh in that game SMU was down and they fought back uh we're paying attention over the Atlantic but I think this week is going to be bananas I mean you got real games you guys keep putting that graphic up of some of the games are going to be here week one starts Thursday night I guess the big one is for Wy North Carolina and Minnesota Friday night you got some great games and then you can just see what's going on over the weekend uh massive games with Georgia and Clemson you know I know Georgia look at that they're favored by almost two touchdowns I you know I I I tell you I I think Clemson's going to win the ACC I think they're head of the playoff I think they're much better and I think they got a lot of Pride on the roster I think that game's a lot closer Miami and Florida holy cow Billy Napier you talk about a lot at stake in that one Notre Dame at A&M we're going to be down there for for that one can't wait then we fly over to to Las Vegas to call the the LSU USC game so man it is these are a lot of November games brother in August doesn't it feel like that massive doesn't it feel like that and I think I think this is one of the good things that is taking place with the transition period we're in in college football is the Marquee games with the amount of money that are get that's getting dumped into these contracts are going to be big all year like I think it's October 12th or something like that Saturday October 12th is like from noon till midnight it is just Marquee Marquee Marquee Marquee and that's just October that's not even you haven't even got into November so there's a lot of good coming out of this in week one is about to be off and running go ahead AJ Kirk uh with all this nil stuff going on all the movement I guess on College rosters do you think the quality of college football is going to be better here moving forward in the next 5 to 10 years or you think it might take a step back I I think listening to some of these coaches you know when you were playing I if you got to a point not you but but your era if if a guy got to be a point of maybe a third rounder you know his coach might say Hey you probably need to come back and a lot of times that that player would listen to to other other folks and many times they would go off to the NFL some guys would go off to the NFL and not even get drafted you know because they were just done with school I think the nil with that guy if you're a first rounder obviously you're going to go but that guy that that maybe is a is second third fourth or later I think he's thinking now man I I think I'm gonna stay another year and I'm gonna play some more college football I'm gonna take advantage of the nil make some more of that money and then I'm GNA go maybe improve my stock and then go to the NFL so I think if anything I I think the portal is different because I think we're getting used to it but it's still a little bit strange like I'm calling you know these games this weekend just doing preparation and it's amazing to see like on A&M's roster with Mike Ela who left Duke to go to Texas A&M to become the head coach you know he looked around that roster I'm sure after Jimbo Fisher left he probably lost a lot and he's like man we need some guys in the secondary we need some D lineman hey we need some receivers and they went out and now you got to try to bring it together and Jael and create continuity NIL affecting the quality of football? through winter conditioning Spring ball and then into camp and you really don't know what you have till you go out there and play you know as you guys know and that's that's scattered all over college football so on one hand I think the nil is going to make guys stick around and then on the other hand I think with the portal it's about who can come together you know I just brought up uh A&M but Notre Dame has has some guys I six or seven guys that are portal guys then I go to Sunday I mean LSU they've got guys USC has a bunch of guys so that's the norm now but who does the best job at at creating it because as much as it's about the individuality on Twitter and as much as it's about your individual brand the goal is still to win football games as a team so who which coaching staffs do a good job of creating that uh that Bond that's going to allow you to get to like a lot of times people bring it up Ohio State if it's not now then when you know they bought in they win game day I do that on Game Day actually but I'm saying dude at the end of the day what was the last time Ohio State took the field with a shortage of talent not this much talent I heard it straight from the hor jig I me Ohio state has had a the last 10 years Ohio State's had NFL players all over their roster I don't look at this roster I really don't and go oh my God they have Caleb down $20 million holy cow Ohio stay serious this year they got they got will Howard who's going to get beat out he's going to get beat out at Kansas State holy cow they got will Howard oh my God they got junkins who was a backup at Old Miss be Ki get tackled on video game he's not gonna start at Ohio State Trevon Henderson's so I I don't State's had a it's about are they gonna come together it's about they gonna be a team is it's not about who they who they what you what are you guys bullshitting about he D recru it's good Kirk you're D recruiting them you're hearing you're trying to yeah because I mean as it was coming out of my mouth I certainly was like gosh this putting a lot of heat on day but it's already been there yeah it doesn't matter ex I mean they spent 20 I think I think I think Jim Trestle and urban Meer that's what I'm saying and then the amount of money that's been spent $20 million allegedly and then you say oh they got Caleb DS are going to be different I was told that that dude was a Hall of Fame player literally the day he stepped he he's you know before you say that make a Fitzpatrick because I've I've covered all these Bama teams make a fit Patrick showed up as a true freshman I watched his first scrimmage I was down there at the stadium down in Tuscaloosa Kirby was the defensive coordinator watched they had all these NFL first rounders everywhere and I was like I got done with the scrimmage I go down on the field I go to Kirby I go I go who's that who's that 29 and he goes ah that's our freshman mck he's out of Jersey I was like I was like that guy looks different like he's when he's not in he's standing next to a senior he looks like he's asking questions and he's like he's got a chance to be pretty special so what you're saying Caleb DS is that kind of guy not to mention make could play the money backer nickel he could play corner he could play safety that dude was doing everything as a freshman you knew what he was gonna become and what's that Caleb I think LED Alabama in tackles last year right so you're you're as a true freshman so I agree I I think he's great but they they've had a lot of good ones come through there he's going to help Ohio State immensely just with his energy and just his leadership he's just an old soul you know some of those guys come around you know AJ's played with guys like that but you look back at Ohio State's roster go back to 2015 they won it in 14 they came back with the Bosa Brothers I think in or or the Jo Joey Bosa look at that roster in 2015 that was the year they played Michigan State at home and everybody got mad they didn't give the ball to zek Zeke Elliott they ended up getting upset by a backup quarterback at Michigan State that team was maybe the best roster I've ever seen in 2015 team so the point is they've had pretty good rosters it's not like they went from having an average roster to all of a sudden buying a Big Rich roster they they've already had a lot you know been buying teams for a long time say it Herby yeah say yeah we still got little petty rules yeah we understand we understand we understand that AJ you get paid AJ wouldn't cheap I was never offered anything Kirk yeah that alligator hey hey he's an elk that's an elk right there you're right but immediately after as soon as he was done playing football obviously hey here's will you signed these 10 things for $150,000 and that's what had like having a fan base as passionate as Ohio State fans becom well that was po you said that was postc career yeah it was post once you're done once you're done with your once your senior season's over yeah you can go find autographs Happ when you're done okay I turn down a good time staring down the CL brow some Hallelujah show