“You’re an Indian!” - Is Ann Coulter Racist For Not Supporting Vivek Ramaswamy?

Intro an couter who we've had on the podcast before an couter I think you and her are you know on a show together you're doing something together and she asked this question I just want to get you reaction on Rob go and play this clip that's why I brought on today somebody who I think has some thoughtful perspectives on the future direction of our country of our conservative movement and on this question of nationalism and national identity somebody who have been fascinated foed by for long fast forward to when she says with on social media but for the first time we're having a live forers in the offline sense of it it's an cter so an thanks for coming on and I'm looking forward to our conversation today me too thanks for having me that was a fantastic opening monologue uh I too am a fan of yours I'm going to make a point of disagreeing with you so that it will be fun um you are so bright and articulate and I guess I can call you articulate since you're not an American black um can't can't say that about them that's that's derogatory um and that was a great opening seg lots of things to talk about there oh and I agreed with many many things you said during in fact probably more than than most other candidates um when you were running for president but I still would not have voted for you um because you're an Indian we'll get back to that um just skip over the racism how well first of all what was did you know she was cuz it seems like when you guys are starting there's a little bit of tension I don't know if there was like pre getting started with there was tension or not oh you're pretty good at picking that up man so so actually so so give you the context here so I ran this podcast during the presidential campaign it was called Truth yeah I took some time off after the campaign and now you know getting back in the swing of things so we relaunched the truth podcast just La relaunched it officially last week so you know get that up on the ground you would have good conversations and I wanted to I wanted to pick on some people who had poked me a little bit on social media or in other ways to be able to you know it's kind of boring to just talk about everybody who agrees with the same thing right right but let's get a little bit of tension from the left from the right so I'll bring Anne ctron because during the campaign I don't remember what exactly she said but on numerous instances would comment on different ways in which I might not be quite qualified to be president right so so let's get it on and have a conversation and both of us are interested in the theme of nationalism I did not expect she would just kick it off right there get right into the business and I think it actually made for a really good conversation Believe It or Not of course I disagree with hell Youre an Indian like her on that being a criteria to be the US president is her description of whether or not you're Indian I'm born in the United States I'm as American as they come but I thought it actually formed a really strong basis for an honest conversation that we otherwise don't have because her view is that in order to actually be a US president you got to be even more American right so you're not fully American if your parents weren't from the United States of America and in order to trust somebody the more Generations they've been here let's say you've been here six or seven generations you have more of what she would call I think she did call during the podcast a security policy it's like an insurance policy that you know that if you're going to put somebody in that high office at least you know that they've really really soaked up what it means to be American now I disagree with that I disagree with that because you have people in the Seventh Generation Americans who are the kids of some I've been I've known many of these people grow up in the Upper East Side some daughter who lives in Brooklyn thinks she's a hippie talks about hating this country well I don't think that that person's any more American than I am just because my parents happen to have been legal immigrants to this country I got two questions for you but it made for a good conversation I got two questions for you with this okay on one end how many people you think are like if you were to say of the voters block what percentage of the voter block agrees with her so say in the Republican primary in the Republican primary to say you know what I'm not going to even if it's 1% 2% 3% what do you think it is so I will tell you this with confidence it is a lot higher than I believed it was a year ago interesting yeah L higher than I believe you would think it is too which is why and I said this on social media and some people hit me on the left from it I said I respect her for saying it even though I disagree right because at least she has the spine to say in public what many other people not a majority not even close to a majority but a lot of people she's not alone she is voicing a view that I think is widespread and you know actually I what the hell we're here we're just going to going to let loose a little bit I had I had somebody text me who had run for position you you guys might know her harit Dylan you know haret Dylan hope she doesn't this Harm's super cool so I hope she's fine with me saying this because I think it's important that the public know we we can't just have these conversations behind closed doors not having in the open said that when she ran for her position of being the Youre too Brown chairwoman of the RNC she had many people tell her the same thing too which is interesting to me CU most of the Grassroots was you know a lot of the Grassroots were with me a lot of Grassroots were with people like carit but there are people who believe that if you're electing people to positions of leadership how American you are is a spectrum when you were out there campaigning did anybody face you confront you and say I would totally support you but you're too Brown for me did anyone say it so I had many of those for religion so I didn't have anybody come up and say that because of well there were people on social media who would make an argument it wasn't on ethnicity and this is part of Ann's Point too it's the point that your parents were immigrants to this country and so you are truly not at the highest level of being American to be president of the United States right so we had a number of people that would say that occasionally a much more common one though for people to my face was I would love to vote for you it's difficult for me to vote for somebody else because I agree with you more but I can't do that because you are Hindu that came up a lot especially in Iowa even the town hall when we did somebody asked you one of the ladies got up remember that I remember they asked you the question I thought your answer was fantastic but she I remember her she was she was I was standing on stage she was standing right there very thoughtful yes I don't think she was in the category of saying I can't vote for no she didn't say she asked a very legitimate question she said tell me about your faith because if you're running for president I got to know who you are and if your faith is important to you then in order to know who you are I got to know your faith that's different from I'm telling you though I will face people in Iowa there's Pastor in Iowa who wrote an extensive Facebook post I spent two hours with him on the back of a bus talking it through and he still came out on the other side as he said if it is God's will for you to be the US president I will accept it respect but I can't vote for you myself because I can't vote for somebody who doesn't share my let me stay on this here so first of all if strategically I don't know if an cter wants to sell you some product that Sammy Sosa used I don't know if you're familiar with Sammy Sosa Sammy S he Whit the skin Whitener Sammy S I didn't know that I he used what Michael if you're interested this real real story he got his skin to be lighter so you can go couple shade you know lighter Rob I don't know why you're laughing I'm trying to make a solution here to make an happy I'm not I'm not going to be a customer I'm sorry but he was by way this guy hit 66 home runs and he saved MLB in 1998 let me go back to the question here with this one here okay what do you think's more extreme what do you think is more extreme and tell me how your argument is on the other side so one side you know what I don't think America because you know back in the days what was JFK was Tom you said Roman Catholic it was a Roman Catholic where yeah those are the headlines when Nixon was running it's a Roman Catholic we're not ready for a Roman Catholic President okay and then America said nah we're okay with it right cool with that okay we're we're actually cool with that do you think give me which of these are more extreme so do you think an coulter's position of saying no not only do I want you to be a c natural-born citizen but I also want you to be white to be a true nationalist to be a president here how about the opposite side what about somebody that wasn't born here but has lived here for 35 years yeah should this person have the right to run for office one day in America if they' paid their taxes they've paid their dues they've lived in America for 35 years should they have the chance to run for office should they have the chance to run for US president president no you want to know why because the Constitution says so so if you want to change change the Constitution and would you have two-thirds of this country and two-thirds of the state ratify that that's a separate conversation but what the Constitution says now is you have to be a natural born citizen sure and a natural born citizen as it's ever been read by courts as it's ever been read through American history for the last century and a half is you're born in the United States of America and so I think the Constitution is a beautiful thing we don't have to relitigate these questions every generation go with what the Constitution actually says ancter is watching maybe an couter wants to amend the Constitution and say naturally born white citizen right with a skin tone that is you know maybe be put tears in the skin tone to to please an cter what do you think I'm just trying to get some creative ideas here I mean Biden's father's father's father's father are all born in America I would much rather vote for somebody like this than somebody that's fames fames fames been here and ain't doing so if you like this clip and you want to watch another one click right here and if you want to watch the entire podcast click right here [Music]