NY GIANTS FULL ACCESS LIVE: Giants Release Their Official Depth Chart & Training Camp News

van Ren eventually is going to you know you know supplant in my opinion supplant stinny but other than that no I mean everything else is um well yeah it's up yeah this needs to be updated because Jan Corbin was let go today also so um but yeah other than that no everything is offensively no this you know miles Bo and Dennis Houston you know um as far as the receivers there's no major surprises there other than that you know that's what wezy what Sor crazy this year telling you York everybody ass sorry i' been holding that but yeah no I mean you know I mean Alex is say he surprised mil miles is in second teams so that I can't I mean I haven't seen him so you know I'd have to wait for his game film or you know live action to see but offensively everything is not a surprise to me well well you know what yeah um what you call it at the four string tight end maybe that that's about it right all right nyg what you got um I mean like I said not not not too much going on there um definitely uh surprised to see Daniel Jones is qb1 n let me [Laughter] stop dag AKA D murder murder but um but n man like I said I think uh I think it's I think it time's about up for Slayton here you know what I'm saying uh wow I think um yeah that is surprising surprising coming from him that's it feels like it feels like it's it's it's about about yeah it's about time to I feel it and it's and it's not and it's not slayton's fault man it's it's Jaylen H's fault man it's Jaylen hay is putting that pressure on dude bro like this dude is serious with it like he he he he is serious with that [ __ ] man I mean you as a Giants fan I [ __ ] love that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying I'm not attached to no particular player I'm not that type of type of fan you know what I'm saying I only supported Slayton because I thought he got a bad rap much like people support DJ because they thought he got a bad rap you know what I'm say saying so um but yeah it looks like the writing's on the wall man that's that's one of my main takeaways from that depth chart I don't I don't think he's gonna be gone I think he they're probably gonna find a trade for him because think about it he wants look he this dude went on Kean Johnson's podcast saying he wants like 100 something targets a season he ain't getting that [ __ ] here like he got to go somewhere and be somebody's like solid number two to even come close to that so I and and and then and then there was the contract see I I read tea leaves like [ __ ] building up and there was the contract situation there was him being benched like that [ __ ] that [ __ ] adds up in somebody psyche and then and sooner or later you like you know what just just move me I'm not part of the future here he's still a young player you know what I mean so that's how I feel about it you know what we need the picks go ahead get a fourth round pick for fifth round pick for him that compensatory pick we're gonna get actually if if Kate Saint is still watching he actually had a very good thing about uh Darius Slayton in the trade he said trade him to the New Orleans Saints and get marshan ladimore back and return oh that'd be nice be nice cuz I mean look at our wide receiver room right now we can afford that right now you know you know got some dos in there now got some dep definitely man I mean if you if you let Slayton go and you want to keep asan Robinson or hodin or somebody on the roster you know you can still do that you can make room for a guy like maybe uh McKenzie or or somebody as a as for your uh slack guy so I mean ways to ways to do it you know what I'm saying but I just think like with Slayton it just and I think I think this is how Darius Slayton feels you know what I'm saying and that's why that's where I think this is coming from I'm just seeing how how like Pat said just kind of reading between the lines a little bit and how how how he kind of taking [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so can I give a different POV on this my brothers you got it see the problem is not nothing that anybody said here the problem is something totally different it's called Malik neighbors it's called Malik neighbors you see we've been so used to looking at a number three receiver put in a number one wide receiver position we forgot what one two and three actually look like and your ass got to fight to be in between three and four see he's never been in a fight before because we've never had anybody over him so that's why he was the leading receiver due to a lack of options now you see what a number one receiver look like if Darius Slayton didn't talk about getting paid and taking the worst contract in wide receiver history for incentives would we actually know who he was on this team he has gotten no press except for his commentary he's gotten no plays in practice that made him look like okay he's the guy there was no excitement around him because you know why you have that dog in Malik neighbors that developing receiver in jayen hayatt that slot lock down and wand Del Robinson and they have even formed a bond you ever notice when they do that little Spider-Man point at each other he ain't involved yeah it's just the three the three young just the three of them he's never had to deal with that type of pressure before and he's looking scared let's say for what let's say about let's say what it is okay he's looking scared he knows his minutes is about to get lower he's definitely not going to hit those incentives because he played himself and now it's getting crazy remember he's always been on the team by default last season they were trying to get rid of him if it wasn't for an injury he would have never been here this year let's get that out there I disagree with that but yeah remember they were trying to trade him away trade him they were okay so if they were trying to trade him and and there's no injury right he's not here well they didn't like him they KN I mean they they you know he wasn't uh they pick they stuck with him out of necessity but then he kind of carved himself out a rle here now like you said we've got receivers and you know he's he's not up to par so as far as you know with those guys but you know I I think I think he stays on the team man yeah he's definitely be had an injury that he's coming back from Alan Robinson hasn't put enough uh uh stuff on on the field yet for them to really make a decision I think because he has familiarity with the team the offense and Jones I think he still makes the roster right and Isaiah hin has been AB I think he I think he makes the roster let me just be clear what I'm saying I think he makes the roster I think he wants a TR yeah that's what I was gonna say I think he will want out yeah because he feels he feels disrespected and slighted yeah he feels slighted that's that's the only thing they perform better than you your best thing you can do is is you know not go out talking [ __ ] and be like look I don't think I'm gonna get much playing time here I would prefer you guys trade me somewhere where I can try to primarily be the number two guy you know what I mean or maybe even the three but you know I want to go somewhere where I can get some run I'm not gonna get no run here an [ __ ] yeah Sho yourself in the foot because you ain't made enough good Splash plays for somebody to really want you so if you start talking media you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot but to be honest with you guys I don't even think it's because he's not good enough or lack of talent I just believe that he's in a bad situation with a young guy like Jaylen hayatt that has a similar skill set to you that is Young exact what I think it is right and they're gonna go with the youth movement he doesn't have J if jayen highest not here he's the number two and he's happy easily yeah exactly my point and then and and then he can demand the money that he [ __ ] wants yeah right by not signing a [ __ ] incentive lace contract that you know you ain't never going to make that's why that's why I said the problem is high like and and the drive home ease point he doesn't have that caderie like those three young guys do they're they're they relate to each other better and neighbors was his worst nightmare that was it that was it because now when Neighbors comes in he's still young like w Del Robinson and Hy and all those got every time you see those three guys are right there when one of them makes a play they're right there there they have that caderie together and that is strong you don't want to break that bond that they have by putting Slayton in there overh high and Pat let me say this right the greatest thing that Darius Slayton can do this season being in between a three and four is play that Destroyer role that I like to call it that oh man his he he ran back to punt for us what was his Deshawn Jackson that Deshawn Jackson played with the Rams do you guys remember every time Deshawn Jackson got into a game last season or the season before that excuse me he scored a touchdown on a go rout that's what Darius Slayton can become once the ball is in his hands most likely it's a touchdown or a 40 yard to 50 yard play to get the offense up the field to keep us excited that is what he has to become because he's always going to be better than the fourth quarterback maybe some threes you feel me if he was just a little bit more consistent with catching and a little bit better with his route running that will be Hyatt's role instead of him right you see but Hyatt has better hands Hy has better hands it looks like his route running is getting better too so that's why you see jayen H slash Slayton I think hay has more of an act to fight for the football yeah that's why I think it the separ ation is how it's going to go where where you see Slayton sometimes I'm not seeing he quits on the play but I don't know if he necessarily maybe not have the physicality or or I don't know I could tell you what it is I can tell you what it is real quick I don't want interrupt you yeah n and when you see um when you see hayatt will you see him like have that like he's almost like how you were saying um baby uh Dex he's like baby Malik ha with speed you know what I'm saying he's gonna fight for the for the ball he's gonna have that dog mentality that D exactly bookends he attacks the ball that's what I'm talking about Slayton doesn't Slayton doesn't necessarily do that that's the that's he has the ability to do it that's what that's what makes you kind of crazy because his rookie year he was doing it right but it's his it's his abil not to fight through plays at the line of scrimmage and why when he's man pressed right if he put hands on him he's one of those type of cats that like when you play ball you can talk him out of his game because he doesn't like to be physical some dudes just doesn't like the physicality of playing a basketball game right they always want to call a foul that was a foul right there it's always a foul he's that way if you ever listen to him when he talks he says it yo man DBS are really slick in this game you know they they'll hold you pull you grab you push you and they know how to get away with it with the referees see that to me right there lets me know that there too much in your mind when you should be learning how to create separation hand fight learn how to Up and Under swim over the top pull latch and move and Escape at the line of scrimmage Hyatt naturally has better feet than slaten off the line yeah that's a fact but you need to come and receiver like a uh Adams over there uh Devonte Adams with the Raiders and dehop I think they're some of the best that do that them dudes get away with pushing off so much bro but they do it in such a subtle way that damn because that's the way dehop has been getting open the past two years I'll just be honest he because he doesn't have speed anymore to get past you so he's using those little elbows to your rib to get you off that slight get off and he catches the ball it it's crazy it's a lot of things that go nuances man little small nuances that he doesn't have and if he's not developed them and I'm supposed to see that in your fourth year I'm supposed to see you be able to hand fight at the line of scrimmage you know what I mean get away with if they're pressing you you're pulling them but you got that twitch where it doesn't get caught so he never developed these things and high is developing them as time goes along in a shorter period of time yeah and that's why I think that Slayton will probably demand a trade by the midpoint if they don't trade him before the season by the midpoint he's probably gonna demand a trade because I'm only getting about five to 10 reps a game I don't see how he gets the rep if if Hyatt's playing if Hyatt's out there balling I don't I don't see see how he gets the five wide and and that's that's going to piss him off because guess what he's in a contract year and he's so and I can't blame either side because fact that's why that's why that's why I'm taking this approach to it you know what I'm saying because I'm not this isn't on the Giants you know what I'm saying this isn't on Slayton this is just a fractured relationship y y yep absolutely you got anything any surprises with the offense before we get to the defense and Miz what's going on man I'm good man what's up no only I about this whole slatting thing is this is where I stand right now and with what I'm seeing with this team the train is already on its way North if you ain't in it we're sorry no disrespect see you later left you at the station I'm done with people's feelings it's about [ __ ] winning now from here on that's it I'm done with that's a fact no more feelings I'm check it out Slayton is an average wide receiver he's a good hard worker he's a nice guy you want to know the difference between him and hayatt like exactly what Alex just said Hyatt's got that young hungry dog in him Slayton he's just settling for like I'm good right here the other guys are reaching for the Stars you could see it and I don't know I'm not knocking him you know I just and we're going and draft another young receiver next year so whatever I me but you have you have that difference in players right you have some guys who make it to the NFL and they content with just being an NFL athlete you have some guys who want to uh have the most sacks or the most catches or the most touchdowns and then you have some guys who just want to be the greatest ever right and you know that's kind of how you categorize the guys on your team you know mean and you want to get the guys who are just content with being on the team the [ __ ] up out of there you know what I mean and you want them guys who want to break Records who want to be the best who want to be the best team player who want to give their all for the team to win and and and go to a championship so you know that this whole process is is a process for a reason you weed these guys out you replace them you coach them up you see if they fit and if not you get them the effort out of there to rinse and repeat till you get what you want and and then you you go for the goal yeah super as as far as like this um the only thing I seen was uh what's that I think van Ren is gonna be a starter though you know stinny stiny gon be be listening to your boy around here man broen right and then um I feel that Theo Johnson is gonna be this he's gonna be a starter man sooner than um later because like I said D um Bellinger he misses too many assignments on his blocking assignments man it can't doing that you know what I'm saying so I I see that's I se that was a surprise like he's fourth on the dep chart you know so I think he'll be first on the dep chart within like the first couple of games of the Season man yeah I do truly believe that let me shout out a couple people that came into the chat chat I mean uh slay what's going on slay good to see you little bro uh David he said H is um is isn't proven yet I don't know what you guys are talking about we just talking about the semantics of it brother uh circle of Kings LLC hit that like And subscribe button for us every one of these content creators on the panel man good to see you he said the offense should be okay yes I think they're GNA be more okay as long as that offensive line blocks and David he says Daniel Jones has probably the most trust and Darius slate okay give me the big screen for a second this Daniel J got too give me the big screen for a second sir please hold on um this would probably be true if neighbors wasn't here exact that that right there that statement is true until neighbors came which elevated hayatt and wand Robinson when he came on come on the New York Giants offense should be okay ladies and gentlemen boys and girls fat people and skinny people old people and young people ugly people and pretty people I need y'all to get one thing through y'all thick numb skulls the New York football Giants are going to go a minimum of 11 and six we're going to Stomp the [ __ ] out of and kick the teeth in of anybody who tries to stop it okay division champs NFC Champs maybe even the Super Bowl DJ balls the out throws 42 touchdowns and runs for eight totaling in 50 touchdowns we're gonna be the greatest show on Turf Big Blue version and you can take that [ __ ] to the bank cuz the leader of the blitz Squad G nation Big L himself says so okay you know just did you know what L just did he allowed people to feel like how the Jamaicans start when ke Thompson W right shout out to Shan eii deception what's going on uh he said bearded DJ is dangerous DJ that's a fact that's a fact J right durag DJ Mur Big D yo Jer Jerry said right he said he had the most trust in Slayton because he was the best receiver he had but things have changed yeah that is very true you have made uh you make a good point here as well you says I'm just trying I'm just saying DJ doesn't have real game reps with Hyatt just yet but you can see it in practice you can see that he throws that ball to hayatt with great confidence bro like if hayatt gets open he's gonna get the ball to him like facts like the offensive line gives him a pocket and if Hyatt is open there's no question in my mind DJ's not gonna release it to him the same thing with neighbors and the same thing with wand Robinson and it's the same thing with Slayton it's just semantics about it bro like NFL be Chad Ojo CLE and everybody tell you man the phase out is real and I believe you're watching a phase out happen and it's and it doesn't have anything to do about Slayton being a bad person I think he could be a very good NFL uh receiver if he was over there with Atlanta he would be the number two receiver out there with uh Drake London and he would do just fine and I think he can actually get a th yards it just happens that we drafted Hyatt in the third round and he's developing pretty quick because he's a CO yeah and ju Del you already know he has the slot receiver hands down and is developing quicker than what I originally thought I don't know about you guys but he's developing quicker than I originally thought if you look at that Arizona game from last year Pat yeah that would tell you right there how a wide receiver who was a rookie that didn't have any real game reps once he got in the game he was already trusted by Daniel Jones haatt made the plays downfield to help Daniel Jones win that game that's a fact and then that one pass when y'all say that he just has that dog in him that Slayton has to fight for the ball that second deep catch that he got he jumped up and grabbed it over that DB yeah when he when he threw it to him so I know D Jones doesn't have an issue throwing it to him it's just that and you seen last year too Pat remember when he jumped up and caught that pass and we've seen Slayton do it he just I don't know it's it's just weird man and he's in an unfortunate situation bro he's just not a dog man like let's let's call it what it is and get off the subject he's not a dog Slayton is a wide receiver dogs are Malik neighbors jayen hayatt W Robinson you've Odell Beckham AJ yeah lucky I can't choke [ __ ] at you from over here boy yeah first of all mother see how I ain't curse at you because I love you too much brother but um no I'm talking about get off the subject in my thought process for this kid this kid is it's over for him Lou it really truly is like I mean we watched him for four years he was the best of what we had and that wasn't even the best of what we needed he did what he had to do it's time to go s t with the 499 Super Chat for says salutes toch man am I saying this right Mach de blue crew fam big blue crew fam and crew all big people tall people wide people small people G all of us in Italy F all Eagles losers he's talking to you slay um but yeah yeah 40 luck Slayton will be a monster on the Chiefs yeah a absolute monster he'll be way better than in Jerry's prony oh he'll be a monster on the bills and Tony got a third round pick they Tony right if hold up hold up hold up hold up hold up cause cave just said something if you could get a [ __ ] third round pick for karus prony and jerus prony yeah but I know where you're going but it's his destination though Slayton was a cadarius Tony was coming off being a first round his destination well sometimes it's defend of the team ability at all you givee advertisement when you do that don't bring up that cockroach's name but you but you but you're giving but look what you're doing is man you're selling the fact that he's a productive receiver consistency bro right like look at Judy they compared the stats with Slayton and Judy and look at what Judy got but compare the skill sets compare the skill sets you gotta compare the skill sets cadarius Tony has a a more attractive skill set than Slayton so does Jerry Judy I know Jerry Judy hasn't produced the way he's supposed to but certain players have certain skill set that you're attracted to he doesn't have the route running of cadarius Tony or Jerry Judy doesn't have the twitchiness of those guys and that's kind of is either slayton's gonna be your number two or nothing you see what I'm saying like Darius Tony Jerry Judy you can throw them in a slot you can throw them in you can't get you can't get a third for Darius Slay no who's gonna give you a third for him go through the teams go who's gonna give you a third I give you Patriots Patriots I give you no Patriots hell no hell no Patriots if Patriots don't get auk whatever's going on with that they are desperate for a receiver they have a guy over there named Javon Baker that's better than anything could there I mean the uh SL let me ask your a question Pat why tring why are we trading Slayton what is wrong with having what is this much receiving talent for the first time in a I understand that Miz but this is based on if Slayton wants to leave we never said they going to get rid of him because he's trash yeah we're saying because Slayton is a good receiver and I don't think he's gonna accept splitting time with hayatt and he's only getting 10 to 15 snaps a game maybe you see I'm saying yeah in the contract season going back to the way that he was getting snaps when he first came when uh Deo first came to us where he had people like freaking the preseason Hulk Hogan playing over and Kenny yes I don't think he would want to go through that and he's a better receiver than that you see what I'm saying let me ask a question well Slayton will Slayton be selfish enough that he's gonna [ __ ] and make a problem about don't do that you're not gonna do it you're not you're not gonna do it because the man took a pay cut let him finish go ahead no I wasn't goingon to say that nyg I was gonna say or will Slayton be a team guy there'll be Obviously good packages for him to be on the field and the GI and the Giants win more games BR the Giants win more games you want to be a team play or not I don't know but you also have to think about you injuries is a part of game too like teams they go injuries with wide receivers they get desperate you know what I'm saying that sometimes they rather get some guy from a you know then get some out the practice squad but you can't get mad at that dude if he wants to trade and talk about he's not being a look man that dude took two pay cuts to stay with the Giants and roll the bench to let guys as Pat just mentioned uh Marcus David SS and all these other guys get playing time over him you know what I'm saying yeah I don't see him doing that again the the the guy is not doing anything wrong and he's not trash it's just a bad situation for him so you can't get mad at him for for one out and you can't get mad at the Giants if they want to make a move and and give the position to H it because he has the upside yeah but it's not selfish on slayton's part bro he already he already took a lot of he already did a lot for this team bro the thing the thing you two guys are getting to disconnect that is Miz is not saying that is that he's being selfish that's not what he's saying he's saying hey look is he GNA be the guy that says hey look I've done my time here with the New York Giants obviously it's not g to work out so I would request the trade to go get more playing time because I do want to get a good contract and what Miz is saying on the other hand is he can do that or he could be the Good Samaritan again and just come in in those packages that they have for him and try to make plays that's what Miz is saying he's not saying either or he's just asking the question yeah he could be the Good Samaritan but what's that g to do for his career these guys are playing for they're playing for a reason bro like and he already did he already did the Good Samaritan [ __ ] and lior got him that's e said that's nobody fault but his it is his fault so why keep doing the same [ __ ] and it ain't working why keep why take another hit for the Giants and say I'm just going to beat a Good Samaritan shut the [ __ ] up and and ride the bench and then go out there and and sign for the vet minimum next year when you can go on the Falcons and get [ __ ] 1500 yards or some [ __ ] like that like bro you have to think at it from the players pos position at some point at some point you got to look at it from the players's point of view and so that's why Miz asks the question which one is he going to do because I don't have a problem with him doing either obvious to be honest I want him to actually leave go get what he deserves to be honest with you no I'm being dead for him because he deserves it bro he's not trash he's just not a number one receiver and he's on the he's been on the team where he's had to be the number one receiver and people see that he's not the number a number one receiver but he has been productive and I think he could be a hell of a number two receiver on somebody's team so like K say k Saint said earlier let's pitch him to the Saints and see if we can get marshan Latimore in return well what about the Rams I mean the Rams always giving away draft picks I mean I'm talking about bringing a player that we can use if we can get a number two Corner yeah if we can get a number two Corner give him for Latimore I know Latimore has his issues sometimes but he's better than what flat is I tell you that now what about the C from Denver you gonna have to give up more to get Patrick he said I said this months ago and was ripped the shreds for talk about t trading s that's before they that's before we drafted Malik neighbors s was all we had Bronx that's the bronx's finest right there Alex in the house too he says Pat our rugby team here is exactly the opposite average players but we've got Elite coaches and run their schemes like a wo machine players with right attitude and extreme discipline to follow the books that is very true and that has been Slayton you can't say that hasn't been slayt Slayton has been all Giants his whole career and maybe it's it's time for him um I just I push back on the people saying he's trash and and [ __ ] like that like you Cass can go out there and defend Daniel Jones and hold on hold on yeah cuz when people say [ __ ] about slay in they they're directly coming at me I know they are because I'm the I'm goddamn near the only one that's ever defended this [ __ ] dude and and to be honest with you you know what I'm saying I I I don't feel bad about doing it man because look man everybody everybody wants everybody everybody wants the Giants players to be loyal and to and to take one for for the team and to do this and to do that and this dude has done that time after time after time again and you know what this fan base has done [ __ ] [ __ ] on his ass pause so again I don't I mean that this is what we're talking about here he's not the worst receiver he was putting up the same situation as Daniel Jones the same situation as saquan Barkley the same situation as Dexter Lawrence and some of these other players on his team and and they did the best they could [ __ ] do you know but it's okay to defend those guys when when you say something about slay oh he's just a [ __ ] piece of garbage like get out of here man he said we should we should have taken adun nah neighbors neighbors he wants bro he wants you guys to answer that I totally ignored that [ __ ] like he never even put that in the chat who said that he wants you guys to give him attention that's what that is bro anybody who says that is either on drugs or just want attention well just coming off drugs yeah just coming off yeah you're right that's [ __ ] read this then we gonna get to the defense and close it out he says Pat Giants got great players because when we get animated and passionate that [ __ ] is is is made for TV moments you know what I'm saying like come on here and troll because not only can we shut down your argument intellectually and articulately but we can also B the [ __ ] out of you verbally while making it sound so good and looking so [ __ ] pretty on camera while doing it so that's why people like to come on and try to troll us you know what I mean but we not gonna give yall that tonight we're gonna keep it positive you know what I'm saying and keep it rolling yeah Joey what's going on Joey thank you for tuning in um let's get to the def defense well I gotta bring up the streen first Mo defense baby defense defense come on let's do it I'm ready ready all right we're looking like a a four lineman base defense this year and looks like Brian Burns is gonna be at one Edge we already know backed up by quack hitting defensive players play with me backed up by Boogie Bastion and the rookie undrafted rookie oie ogu uh nose tackle Dexter Lawrence with Jordan Riley right behind him DJ Davidson and Timmy horn the regular defensive tackle rakee Nunes roaches I think that's gonna change in a couple of games Ryder Anderson uh Jordan Phillips Chapman and Casey Rogers uh the outside linebacker position which is the other Edge is Kayon Tibido backed up by z o gelari Taman Fox and Benton uh Whitley uh inside linebackers are babio and Michael mcfaden backed up by Carter coughin and Deontay Johnson then you got the rookie from UCLA mile darus mile Matthew Adams and Daren beavers is last that's not a good sign for beavers uh the Nick Corner this is where surprise me they got Drew Phillips as the nickel that's not the surprise I knew he was going to do that but they got Isaiah Simmons as the backup nickel corner so when we go on the dime he's going to be the nickel nick McLoud and Trey hearnen all right first Corner Deontay Banks backed up by Trey Hawkins and David long Jr second Corner Cordell flat backed up by Dar holes I'm pissed off and Brion borders and safeties of D Belton and Jason pinck the Stardust backed up by Tyler nman Elijah Riley javarius oin Owens Caleb Hayes and Alex Johnson where the hell is the dude we signed from the Eagles Mills where's he he is he hurt yeah he's he's he's already hurt right now he's he's on yeah Mills is hurt he's on the P already huh my surprise is that damn Isaiah Simmons he must have carved his role as a nickel corner and believe it or not I think sometime times they will put him in over Drew Phillips and slide Drew Phillips to the outside to replace Cordell flat that's what I think they're going to do and Nick McLoud as a nickel I believe he should be the cornerback too right what I think this chart was made uh about a week ago maybe but that's crazy go uh who we got coach go ahead and uh what the [ __ ] is going on Dar [ __ ] holes bro that's why cell flat can't get on the field with his ass Darnell holes and like you said Pat Nick McLoud EXC excuse me why is Nick McLoud as a nickel Corner when all I've heard is he's doing very well as a cornerback but he's third string Nick right and you have Dar Holmes who's better suited for the Niel playing boundary cornerback I will the only thing I will say about darne Holmes at cornerback is if you're playing zone I'm gonna back off I will back off there but he's better in the nickel also especially in run support he's very good in the zone concept I there's no denying that but the number two quarterback because what that's telling me if Cordell flat is out guess who's who's number one fellas fellas this is not who we are going to roll into week one we know that we know that Lou we know that this is the the projected people from every practice squad you can find this hey but you but you but but you know what Lou you're wasting reps on these dudes you're wasting [ __ ] reps on these dud get these guys right now on on the outside well I'll tell you this Holmes hasn't played outside it's actually been McLoud and quarter a flop playing outside but that's but that's what's so confusing Pat yeah that is confused they're not wasting reps like nyg said because they're actually getting the Reps where you think they will be but go ahead then then then this like you said this maybe was the why relas this why relas this this basically what we're saying it's garbage [ __ ] the game up and make content videos like this happen yeah I mean it's just weird the way they did it because they don't even have Isaiah Simmons as a linebacker they got him as a right well the N don't forget the nickel technically is like a will linebacker so I get it I'm that's why that's not that big of an issue for me he he technically he's if you put him out there in the three linebacker set you know that that's what you're gonna do or I'm sorry coach let me let me do this and calm people down because this should have happened a long time ago too Dar holes you know where you need to look like we got another one on the ground [Applause] [Music] this is the gag in here you fight doing back your life get so let's get that out the way now because I just seen that really triggered a lot of people yeah homes for me y'all know y'all know how I feel about homes put him in the slot plain Zone with him give him safety help over the top or somebody underneath do certain things but put them on the boundary cuz y'all know um um e will even tell you good offenses whether you play in zone or not they'll they'll they'll they they'll solo him on the island whether you're in zone they will put him they will get him out there one onone and they will take the safety away from him to get with giving him support and he's gonna be by himself and how is that done all the time coach you send the over 6'2 wide receiver and put him in the slot and allow child abuse basically so so for me having them inside would have been better because you can a little bit more on that outside he's gonna be alone he's gonna be alone and you know what that's like oh I'm not gonna say that I'm let me be nice let me not say something dirty but um that's going to be like taking somebody out to the Woodshed and Tanning their their little bottoms okay no it's not going to be good and that's whether you're in zone or man you could still abuse him that way so but that's that that right there was my biggest surprise with um McLoud and and Holmes right um Ryder Anderson and Jordan Phillips you know well Jordan Phillips I mean they brought him here for a reason and he's third on the depth chart so I'm just like he's not having a good camp and then I keep hearing Chapman is getting first team reps so that's like that's pushing him further down so you know they're they're looking to use him and use his skill set so you know all the rest of them Boogie bash him you know you know yeah so you know the rest of them you know all right and I I'll say one last thing and then I'm done okay but our our our our first line we definitely got to rock hard with our first line because um some of the some of the backups oh yeah drop off the depth on team yeah the depth on this team is always going to be a problem till we get about two or three more good drafts that's just that's just gonna be a fact but go ahead nyg I already put holes in the goog so you ain't gota be triggered by him sir man bro don't you dare put Dar Holmes on the boundary on the outside to get barbecued like the Fourth of July hot outside you know what I'm [Music] saying Barbe Fourth of July somebody didn't left it somebody didn't left the grill running thank you thank you got drunk and burnt the [ __ ] chicken that's Dar Holmes yeah Dar that's that's him on the outside n lives we don't we we we don't need that in our lives fellas crunchy fact that's his nickname Chick-fil-A that's burnt to the damn bone man that's burnt to the Bone that's grilled Crispy Cream that's that's that's that's campfire a chicken schores right so you don't want on the roster and that's basically what he's saying right two years ago D holes was a good slot corner I don't know what happened last year to be honest yeah they got him on the outside according to the dep chart two what I'm talking it's three years ago Miz two years he played two years he played under under uh Wing system and he was getting totally abused he was getting he was bent over the rails and really okay so why why let me ask you this coach that dude ain't it when he when he I'm not I'm not saying either or I'm I understand last year he was making me upset too but here's the thing when he was drafted right he was considered the steel of the draft remember was saying that was raving about him too and he come out his rookie year he played some damn good football I remember that game in Seattle that we stole so I don't know what happened win system yeah on a lot of men he's not a man cornerback well him they were killing him with crossers and he was always in the trail and it's not even it's not that he was in the trail technique there was great separation it was at least three to four yards of Separation in a Crosser I mean no there's no look my my old cranky broke down butt with my Walker could give better coverage than him bad he is so I I have concerns with him and men in zone I have no issues in zone I really don't if he's in the slot and he's good and run support he really is he's a good tackler you know so that part I'm giving him credit for but on the outside he will be he will be targeted Trust and Believe oh lunch me believe you send two you send two verts just on the simplest high school route two verts run two verts a seam and an outside goal with him that means he he's one-onone with a with an outside receiver he's done well you don't put him on the outside I never thought he belonged on the outside anyway that's what're that's what on the outside has him on the outside well he gives up a lot of first downs on on P I believe that that's just a placeholder position for a few of these guys in the de I believe they're gonna go and sign a guy and they're gonna go and get some uh guys that don't make it on other teams and not because they didn't make it because of skill but because they already have a lot of depth on their team guys that get cut and the Giants would go and pluck from those guys and they did that get an adori or something like that because I think Shane Bowen likes to run a zone so what's what's the quarterback we picked up today from Washington me personally I put Nick McLoud as a star qb2 G have no choice man K I don't think you have a choice she's not got it picked up as not good yeah I know that that's my point a lot of guys we're going to get it's going to be in that range what I'm saying is a lot of them are going to be in their R in that range they're cut for a reason now some are going to be a numbers game I get that I get a guy as well I'm they saying they might go get a Dory or something like that but I don't want a Dory back kill itory be back the more chance of dory's back as a giant it's crazy um and why I didn't want him in Wink's system but in this one right here I'm all the way for it y I'm all the way for it I don't I don't like when somebody quits I've seen that dude quit too many times in multiple seasons I I don't want he's also giving us some he's also giving some big time gam chance okay bro he's quit Drew said zero chance yeah I think so too Drew I'm with you on that one he's not coming back here that man bro say they they would have been got him yeah bro you can't just no but if you get him for cheaper you can't we talking about building a culture here fellas you can't show that type of [ __ ] quit ass attitude Dogg it I'm I'm done type [ __ ] and then and then you know um bring a guy like that back you know when you got young players in this locker room you know what I'm saying because if adori acts like that the moment the moment we're getting blown out in the game and he dogs on a on a play or two and those young guys see that like bro it's not good bro I know one I don't I don't like I don't like what I seen from Ador last year I was done with that dude well it don't got to be a Dory but they could they could go potentially sign somebody yeah I'm with signing the vet Corner absolutely I I don't want to Dory Jackson back here who's remaining gentlemen out there is not done I'm telling you remaining out there yeah who's remaining out there Gilmore who does not want any part of being with us um you got xaven Howard but he's having some legal issues right now that's the only reason why C hasn't been picked up yet and there really just a bunch of other guys like is RO out there no I don't think he is no um if you really want a guy you're gonna have to make a trade that's what I say I like the guy let's go trade for lore yeah I think Latimore could be had for a third or fourth round pick or just straight up slating for Latimore to be honest with you you could throw Boogie bash him in there too if you want you Boogie bash in that ain't gonna make the trade I keep trying to tell y I think trade rejected you have you have the whole trade done yeah would y take Boogie bash and click hello hello hello why why we say why we say that about him maybe I'm missing something maybe I didn't see have you seen Boogie bash him out there no Boogie and no bash right that's why we bashing him boss his name trash yeah you know he reminds me of fellas what was the dude that we got from um the Dallas Cowboys that [ __ ] Michael mcfaden life up the first year Smith oh jayen Smith Oh Boogie Basham is the jayen Smith of DTS and Jayla Smith we don't know what the hell he was he was out there throwing people's elbows on people just flopping in at the crowd jumping on like what are you doing sir first of all he was tackling his own friends okay and I don't like you you don't do Stu haven't been noticing what he's doing so we did a whole breakdown Pat on Jaylen Jason Smith remember Jaylen Smith yeah fact trash terrible this dude that's terrible he know he knows he's trash I don't even know what are you doing right like every time Boogie bash him get in there the quarterback has at least six seconds yeah he can't get in there bro I don't know what it is pause like he just don't have the move brother that's don't have the Boogie got the moves Boogie he a got the moves what's going on Jayla he don't even have a ganger Boogie what's up y' y'all can hear me good yeah what's good with you Jay no man I just got done doing the set downtown Houston at the secret group I told y I was gonna pop in on y'all when I got done with my stuff you know what I'm saying when we talked last time what y'all got going on tonight what we what's the what's on the uh what's on the menu I got the best joke you could have uh said tonight what's that Boogie bash him everybody would have laugh so what happened with Boogie he was getting used and abused man he don't even need to touch the field bro that's what we saying he need to CH change his last name yeah I think he brings down team morale just being there no and no Bash boie he'll be a boogie bash in one place send his ass to the prison he'll be a boogie bash I bet you'll run then yes oh G bash that ass boy right pause get out of there no it ain't no damn pause you know me better than that stop it l they slap that ass not joining in on that right it went good man I tried out uh you know this has been my first time back on in a couple months you know I've been working but it went well you know what I'm saying I got through my five minutes I didn't stumble over nothing I even tried out a couple new little jokes so you know it went well it went well okay let's go another day on the grindstone y the more you practice the better you get yeah I'm just happy to get back to it you know because like I was telling uh Lou and uh NY and Pat the other night you know i' been through you know a whole bunch of losses this year and uh I didn't it was hard for me to really kind of find the funny in anything so just for me getting out here and you know and getting back to it you know my my family's been talking to me telling me my wife been telling me I need to get back on stage so I you know stopped feeling sorry for myself and went and got back on stage tonight so if you feel sad if you're feeling sad and depressed and feeling like you can't do that [ __ ] and oh why is this bad stuff happened to me it's going to keep on happening to you but you just you know build and get stronger from that and keep on pursuing and pushing through whatever you want to do that's right Jay tell them bro yeah but hey I'm about to I'm literally in the parking lot of the of the comedy club so I'm about to uh head back to the house if y'all still on when I get back to the crib I'll pop on you know shoot the [ __ ] with y'all again but uh say what's up big blue crew Giants y'all see we've been fighting you see we was whooping some lion ass we was those Rudy poo cowly Lions getting ass handed them down down all right man glad you had a good Set uh tonight though jayl but uh we're probably off by the time you get to the crib but man uh I gotta come out there and see you live one time bro trip out there I'm in downtown Houston man I'm at I'm at on 24th of Post Street at the secret group I'm at Axel rad most City grills in Missouri Texas Missouri City that's souths side of Houston I'm all over the place man just catch me on you know Monday through Thursday I ain't big enough for the weekend headliner so you know what I'm saying got catch cat on Monday through Thursday and I got I'm working my way up all right bro all right I holl at y'all man all right Jay good see you bro but uh yeah gotta go catch Jay at one of his sets man I know that [ __ ] funny as hell man that's a funny ass dude pause anybody got anything else to say about this death chart because this death chart is wild this is like a this is literally like a 90 man death chart but I hopefully this is not the official death chart just something that they had to put out before the first preseason game you know what I'm saying so they was like just write some names in there and we we'll get the dep chart fixed before the regular season I think that's what this was you know the main thing I noticed about the dep chart is the debt we actually have a little bit of it you know what I'm saying way more than we usually have I tell you that so I mean you know um the fact that we're talking about certain players might get cut or might not make it or think that's a good thing that's a good thing to be talking about trading uh who was your number one wide receiver the past you know three or four years right and and now he's your number four that's a good thing y'all it's not a bad thing you know what I'm saying it's it's not a bad thing to be having conversations about who's going to be playing next to decks to have all these different options and all these different players that could possibly step up and take that position you know you know what I'm saying like this is a good it's a good problem to have at running back when you have Tracy you have uh turbo Miller you know um in competition you know the fact that we got some Edge presence now you know so the depth is really what I took at around this depth chart is the fact that we actually have a little bit of dep now it ain't crazy we can get more obviously still scary you know what I'm saying but it's a lot better than what we've had in the past you know what I'm saying especially at um particular positions as I mentioned but yeah hey uh 40 Lu we will be at metti November 3rd for the uh commanders game if you want to uh link up with us then pause but yeah I mean but anybody else got any last words um I think I put everybody I need to put in the goog tonight hold on you put darn in the goog yeah you already put yeah I got Dar I got Boogie bash some trash ass y'all put Cordell flight there y'allselves y'all some mean sons of gun oh yeah but oh go check out Miz in the midday he had a damn good video I keep trying to tell this crazy sucker to keep making those Miz in the mid days bro like those videos are dope as [ __ ] like check out that Miz in the midday that he made today man it's a lot of good stuff in that video and it's absolutely hilarious um other than that checked it out Miss I checked it out the guy in the RO the guy that Jones sucker slapped put him in the Rock find them in that whole bunch but overall I today was a pretty good day to be a Giants fan our joint practice went way better than everybody on Twitter and the media were expecting it to be they thought we was gonna be some Chumps hey Daniel Jones and Malik neighbors can only connect against themselves but looks like Malik neighbors is the truth he's burning your your DBS too not just his um it it's a lot of things to be excited about this Giants team and even if you a Negative Nancy even some of the Negative Nancy people are coming out be like man you know D Jones might be a dog no don't say that now yes like you said Miz the the the the the the bus already left bro yeah the bus is already gone maybe Dan Jones did need a number one receiver no [ __ ] Sherlock freaking be told they giant fans so I'm I'm gonna I'll get a second bust to come back around if they leave them suckers right where they at man they they done they on the curb they Giants win a Super Bowl they need to be right there on that grass where uh uh man cave is sitting at right behind his be you be right there on that grass and watch the fireworks for metti outside tomorrow they be doing it again right tomorrow the Giants and Lions do it again right yep now I I'll be a little bit worried because I think the Lions tomorrow gonna come out and say oh yeah you know you know Dan Campbell laid it laid the wood to those boys in that locker room pause but you know Dan Campbell ain't about that Dan Campbell was one of us he said a lot of good things about the organization and Mara and all that [ __ ] so he's a good guy but but I think the lons come out tomorrow because they got a little humiliated today they got punch in the face and I just want to get out of there healthy that's the only cross my get out of there healthy that's all I care about too how y'all feel how y'all feel about the preseason game they got two of them on Thursday and then they playing the patri game on on uh what's that U NFL Network no they played Thursday it's the same time our seven o'clock both games y'all thinking y'all thinking the Stars play you see I said I brought that up today NY I rather Jones don't play this Thursday but listen yeah they're not gonna play so what game is Dr rehearsal the second or the third game they gonna probably do the dress rehearsal the second game oh yeah which game is the Jets game third one the last one yeah they're not and they got and they got a joint scrimmage practice with them that same week also yeah I was G to say they're not going to they're not going to do anything with the Jets yeah they may play the first series and get them the hell out of there um but this first game this is really going to determine some people that going to get cut now I do believe the defense as far as Cordell fllying those boys they're gonna make them play the cornerback too he ain't got no choice but anybody in competition anybody in a comp a serious competition got to play they got play you know what I'm saying but people like Isaiah Simmons and them who have fit roles already They're Not Gon to play but I'm putting Cordell flat out there immediately him and Nick McLoud on both sides and let's see who come out better during the game oh Nick McLoud you made more plays fly get to the bench sir you ain't hear Banks name today did you no you didn't that's a good thing facts he was out there making plays that's exactly that's what I'm talking about got [ __ ] up who oh Ry oh yeah Ryan got destroyed on one rep by Pascal yeah Pascal is nice though that dude is nice and Ryan got destroyed on that R I said good Lord that re to be a last season on that one do that one more Brian Burns owned every rep today whoever was against him this looks like Hernandez in my opinion yeah that bad right there I don't know if he tripped or something I don't know what happened on that rep but he got destroyed he he got hit with the the left arm to the to the right shoulder and pulled and ripped through with a with a swim move off of it yeah he hit him with a nice hesy but other than that we had a pretty good pretty good day I mean it was a one-on-one so you don't have no help on either side so hopefully he doesn't give up pressure that quick but I do think the starting offensive line plays and they'll throw Drew lot in there uh let them play let them play with the offensive line for probably one series and then I want to see Neighbors get at least one series to be honest with I don't think neighbors get I know I get it but I'm saying I want to see him out there just so he can get a little just his first um of the speed of the game out there just one series that's why I one series see slon can start at do I think he will I think I mean if Jones is gonna play yeah if Jones is gonna play yeah but if Jones isn't gonna play yeah then then he's not gonna put neighbors out there or high or W Robinson yeah I better not see Drew was no goddamn passes oh man Twitter you see he completed a pass to my league neighbors you see [ __ ] dummy yeah no we we don't want to see that it could be a three yard curl see way better than Daniel Jones he completed oh why receiver screen 60 yards look at that look at the stats 60 yards see that's who I'm going to watch in this in this preseason though to be really honest I like I'm enjoying these this little running back mix and I want to see them play I want to see turbo Miller play that's for sure I want to see what turbo Miller and Tyrone Tracy actually have and see how we can use them dude yeah but I think turbo Miller is gonna turn some heads bro yeah but we gonna wrap this up I want to play being 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that 11 and six is the minimum division championship NFC Championship possibly Lombard Giants is going to stomp every [ __ ] body this year don't be surprised when we get come out on the three and 0 start and everybody like oh my goodness the Giants have turned it around no no keep that same energy and keep your [ __ ] ass over there you know what I'm saying keep that same hateful ass energy over there don't come over here don't switch up now because the Giants is about to go on a run greatest show on Turf big blue Version Y already know where you heard it hey Seuss Martinez never too late thank you for tuning in bro New York Giants I hope we just beat the cow girls I hope we beat them twice we are will Wilkins always a good uh supporter of the show thank you for tuning in and shout out to everybody that came in Red Fox 40 luck Andrew Dominique parks arus uh uh slay actually came through Earl Cole everybody that came through man there so many of you guys it's hard to get to all you 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