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guys for tuning in BL bulldozzer and Daniel Barry Sports in the chat already what's going on y'all man all right today we're going to be talking about the New York Giants joint practice with the Detroit Lions and the official death chart has been released uh for the New York Giants headed into the preseason it can change but there is a lot of things with this death chart that we need to talk about what's going on J uh jaras but first we G to talk about the Giants and the joint practice today and we got the coach in the building so you know we gotta go with Coach first man tell us what you thought about the joint practice practices today coach against the Detroit Lions man give us your news and notes um it was a very insightful it was great it was um a lot of great work um for both teams um you know but for the Giants I mean offensively it was a point where um Danny Jones was able to you know sit pocket and pass the ball no pressures I think one of the stats that they said that um they also had no offensive penalties you know which you know usually in a joint practice you're going to get because you have the referees out there you're going to get something so you know things like that I mean it was productive and the offense was clicking defense was clicking you know yeah there's some mistakes here and there but overall this team stepped up to a team that was 12 and5 and was one game away from getting to the Super Bowl and they didn't let themselves get you know thrown around and beat up you know like in in the past so you know that that's some of my takes from today so so I mean we did have a lot of things going on uh with the the camp today with the training camp practice today Daniel Jones and Elite neighbors looks like a legit combination that we should expect big things out of going into this season the offensive line actually played pretty well today against that uh Lions defensive front um Theo Johnson looks looks like he's legit Jaylen Hyatt got behind the defense today and like you said the one-on ones we dominated today the defensive line dominated today man so NY if you want to speak on some things about that man let's talk about it yeah um that man Brian Burns you already know um getting after it about against a very good Lions offensive line you seen Dexter Lawrence be Dexter Lawrence against one of the better centers in the league in um ragn now and of course you got Avon Tibido you know coming along doing his thing winning reps look that defensive line overall it's gonna be a problem it's gonna be a problem I'm G tell y'all right now it's going to be a problem in the and people around the league are already peeping that they're already looking at that you know what I'm saying so that's a that's like one of the main takeaways in this practice you seeing a defensive line go against a very good offensive line and not dominate them but win a lot of reps and that's key because guess what we expect them to get one on ones you know given the fact that you can't block them all you know what I'm saying now we have dep there so these guys are going to get one-on-one matchups and you like to see them winning those matchups that's one of my main takeaways with the defense with the offense you already know it's it's the Malik Neighbors show man it's the Malik Neighbors show man Malik neighbor show bro not to cut you off but man that dude I think that dude is gonna be a absolute Menace yep everybody this season bro like all that talk everybody was talking before the joint practices yeah you gotta find out Daniel Jones sucks against actual teams and Malik neighbors is only doing that against uh uh his own team well guess what both them guys showed out against a different team people are predicting to go pretty far in the playoffs predicting to be one of the top teams in the league not just the NFC and they showed out man CA uh I remember talking to coach last year when these joint practices happen and coach was going we got sure was coach was going off doing I I wish I could get a clip of it man but he was pissed like go out there on the field to get bitched like that and I think they took that to heart this season and they went out there and dare I say they bitched the lions in a couple of ways and man Andrew Thomas every time I think this dude's strength I get I gotta hold on this dude's strength PA he shows me he's just a little bit stronger than what I think when he hit I think he hit Armstead so hard on that roll out block that he didn't fall because he was in shock and guess what he's in concussion protocol so yeah so that's how hard that hit was man it sounded like thunder when he hit him and that that's the stuff that we got to do as a team bro like we we gotta show people that hey look this ain't the old Giants this ain't this ain't a Giants team where you think you could just come in and just bully Us and got a easy Victory and you laugh after the game no you ain't gonna be laughing you might be crying after the game if they get their we but what's going on Wells nimmer thank you guys for tuning in um I'm just excited for this team man and speaking of Andrew Thomas this offensive line showed me a little something today and we weren't at full strength because JMS is not in there and we had van rotten playing out of position and I think stenny was at Right Guard if I'm not mistaken so what do you think this offensive line can be at full strength and I'm not talking about Evan Neil coming back I'm talking about Andrew Thomas John Ryan JMS rotten and lumor what what do you think these these five guys can do for this offense this year coach um once they develop a level of continuity first of all you're going to have good veterans on that field so it's not just a lot of young cats on that field it's going to be veterans out there and they're going to be able to really effectively um protect and open up the r the the the running game I was looking at um um Nick Fato did a breakdown on um on Van roton and you know because I always heard that you know he's a a very good pass blocker but his Run game is is no isn't that good but I'm here to tell y'all I don't know what y'all were talking about I'm looking at the film that he broke down and Van Ron is is is is effective he has good fits now is he a road grater is he just going to always move someone no but he takes very good angles he does a great job in getting his head to the playside um flipping his hips so he seals the the the lane from the running back and he doesn't get driven back and you know he's good in the pass game uh where he can read the stunts he picks it up um you know he he does very well sometimes he can get a little wide in h in his base on occasion but for the most part he's very effective plays with good hands um look he he stayed with Dexter Lawrence he's Chris Jones he's blocked Chris Jones uh last year he annihilated Bobby O uh in a run game so you know what I think this game is going this this offensive line is is once they get comfortable with each other and really play together they're going to be a lot better than we thinking you know what can they probably get to the middle of the pack yeah I think so yeah if they get to the middle of the pack it's gonna be trouble be honest with you because if that offensive line blocks and allows Daniel Jones to step up in a pocket because there's there a difference between a offensive tackle that gets beat but he can't push him past the quarterback and allowing a defensive line to come straight at his quarterback and then your guards are getting pushed back into you there's no pocket for you to go to but if we could create a pocket for Daniel Jones Daniel Jones is looking showing like he has that confidence to get the ball to his receivers this year and we're GNA make some plays but nyg I know you want to talk a little bit about this old so go ahead let us know what you thinking bro man I think we finally got something man I think we finally got something cooking you know what I'm saying I think we finally have a foundation and that's what we needed you know um ran is 26 Thomas is 28 I think alumor is 29 um John Michael Smith I mean he's still young I think he's like 25 and of course you got the old man um van rotten but again you need that veteran leadership like coach talked about this oon will be fine as long as Evan nil stays off of it I'm just gonna be honest with you I'm just gonna be dead honest with you offensive line will be fine they not gonna be you know bottom of the pack no more y'all I can guarantee y'all that as long as they're healthy right but if Evan nil was out there all bets are off I'm telling you I'm telling you right now this is the best thing for this Giants offensive line as what they got out there right now but again man I think to your point man I think I think they could be mid pack I think that's that's a fair expectation man just be top 20 41st out of 32 offensive lines but grief but man what's going on another of K what's good cave what's good fell tell us what you think about the joint practices today man what are some of the things that you seen out there today well first and foremost you know we we all saw the tussle out there you stuff now now say Dan Jones he's inciting the um the brawl now on ESPN you know what I'm saying so Daniel Jones is doing that inited So Daniel Jones getting his street credit right now you know what I'm saying yeah as far as as far as the um the practice man I mean as far as the uh thing man I've seen like the passes to neighbors to Hyatt you know what I'm saying uh juanell you know what I'm saying so man I'm good with that man the Deep shots you know I'm good with that and then also um on the defensive side you know seeing Brian Burns doing his thing Kayon doing his thing uh what's that Jordan Riley you know thing as well and uh what's his name Jermaine alumor you know what I'm saying um tossing U what's saying Aiden Hutchinson not really to you know saying moving him around you know putting up that fight and then also Andrew Thomas you know laying that hit you know so I'm like I'm loving it man I'm loving it so we got a couple more people that came into the chat K Saint what's going on uh Brooklyn 85 was going on dash hey Dash if you want to come on the panel let me know I'll put the link in the chat for you um look even Captain uh captain and coch 70 I hope this is Daniel Jones last year well the offensive line blocks your wish is not gonna come true sir I'll tell you that now because he's gonna put up some stats so uh I don't know get ready to cheer or get ready to cry I don't know but I mean uh Cur Kirk was going on he says can't wait to see round two tomorrow I love the fight and them competing today I didn't care about anything else until today they didn't get punked right every year hey he says uh Brooklyn 85 he says Evan Neil being benched is better for the o line yeah addition by subtraction unfor absolutely Petrus what's going on bro uh Isaiah Evans thank you for tuning in he says I support my Giants but it's practice that is very true the thing that I'm most impressed about this team because last year like coach said we got bitched last year we didn't get bitched today we were smacking the people around today right so that that's what I'm proud of not saying that we gonna go undefeated because of one practice no that's not what we're saying we're just saying we like the fight and we like the attitude of this team like this team is showing that they have a little attitude and they have a little confidence and maybe they're going to start believing that hey we're a good team and we can beat anybody that we go out there on the field with that's the attitude that you have to have when you're playing football because any doubt you're gonna get exposed I promise you you have any doubt on that field you're gonna get exposed uh K Saint says what up fellas o line realistically 14 through 18 which I think is enough to win some games and be competitive every week that's a damn fact M because the weapons we have if they have time somebody gonna get open East Coast grid iron what's going on DB from EP says that block sent broke bro straight to the train right right right trainers trainer right hey uh E I sent the link to you uh to in your uh uh DM bro if you want to come on and talk a little bit of Giants football and dash just let me know I'll put the link in the chat for you uh Captain this dude he says Neil was a massive bus I never thought he would end up being a bus I thought he was a great pick well if you were following us back in the day we didn't say evanel was be a bust but we did say that he had some issues that if he didn't correct he will be tough on him me Lou Joe nyg and Coach uh Alex too I think Alex was in on a couple of those too um where we said hey look hear some issues yeah um DJ is The Terminator what's going on he says d DJ putting a camel clutch on some mother moof Hey DJ got some strength too because that wasn't no small dude that he pushed that was a defensive lineman that he pushed and he pushed him over and man Andrew Thomas slung that one guy like a sack of potatoes I feel sorry for him Daniel Jes said man I'm sick of this [ __ ] right DJ keep that damn that beard cuz that that's giving you that confidence every time he got that beard he start balling yeah that's that old North Carolina Country backwards beard right scruffy D she says if anything this practice show toughness and I'll take that any day of the week any [ __ ] day of the week and twice on Sunday Dash a fact Ghost Dog what's going on ghost dog he said Peace of salute to the big blue crew familiar uh how about them Giants huh yeah I think they did pretty good today man oh this this dude who's always saying hateful stuff on Twitter oh the Giants ain't gonna do this the Giants ain't gonna do that oh Lord yeah oh Lord hey why don't you say some other stuff today uh where were you today you weren't on any of my posts on Twitter today sir when I was posting some stuff on uh Twitter today Dani Jones didn't miss too many passes today huh so you guys didn't have anything to talk about huh okay uh ghost dog says been saying uh he needs to keep that beard for a minute now facts you need to let it grow out coach I mean Dad says I'm with Coach keep the beard facts oh DB from EP says y'all saw Dex and burns pull up and diffuse one of the scuffles they wanted no yeah that was funny too and Dex is a huge dude pause because Brian Burns ain't no small dude and Dex was standing behind him and it was like damn Brian Burns look small compared to Dex when Dex came over there everybody was like all right get it together not this monster coming over and starting some stuff like nobody wanted no smoke with decks uh Dex barked a couple of words and everybody just went back to practice but I mean it is what it is when a dude I think Dex was 65 three 330 340 and and still super athletic that's crazy is kind of unfair yeah I know who you are Mr Rainey believe me I know who you are cam what's going on cam thank you for tuning in he says Cordell flly is a liability we need mlau on the outside or sign a cornerback after the three roster cut that's the next subject I'm going to get in uh get give me one second to catch up the chat and we're gonna talk about that uh comment that you just put there um BK good godson what's going on bro I ain't seen you in a little minute hope all as well he says D awgs dogs seen coaches wearing these shirts team moving with that dog mentality love it Shout Shout to the shout out to the panel yeah those shirts are actually dope uh that's probably Malik nebor L clothing line dog because that's what he is facts T rainy says man he did all right but the season ain't started yet that's true can't disagree with that yep Jones should keep that beard jarus he says we got some dogs out here oh I mean out there mindset is different n Neighbors on offense burns on defense they rubbing off on the rest of the team Paul M he said if I can't post when he doing bad I'll post when he does good you don't post when he does good though sir you only post when he does bad so you might not get a lot of post this year Mr rainy I'm just letting you know book in thank you for tuning in bro appreciate you tuning in uh ghost dog says Dex could only be a giant in life laugh out loud that man is super human yeah that dude's ridiculous bro and it's kind like I say it's kind of unfair K Saint says how about The Rook Drew Phillips bring that dog mentality he said he said it on uh oh I I think he did say that on Hard Knocks and um he actually had an interview today now he said that he was a little disappointed in his attitude today because he's normally a guy that doesn't want to start fights but he will stand up for himself and that's that's the thing you got to stand up for yourself and I'm glad he did that I'm glad DJ stood up for himself hell hell I'm glad his offensive line stood up for himself because they've been getting [ __ ] for a long time forever yo right so but to get back to uh where's that comment at the cams comment here Cordell flly is a liability we need McLoud on the outside of sign a cornerback after the 53 roster uh cut down e what's going on e um peace peace Kings what up everybody what's up talk about Cordell flat for one second and I know you guys have your opinions about Cordell flat being the cornerback number two the only weakness we had today as far as the Lions for what I have seen is that they attack Cordell flat they attacked Drew Phillips a little bit too but that's a monr St Brown he got a a catch or two on Drew philis but you expect that he's a great player but Cordell flat was getting burnt by fre Jameson Williams who's either been been suspended or hurt throughout most of his career so far and he was making Jameson Williams looked like he was freaking Roy Williams or somebody out there so what what what are your guys expectations for Cordell flat let's just say he is the quarterback too going into the season week one Justin Jefferson Jordan Addison uh J uh Wright what what are your what is some of your concerns about Cordell flat or if you have no concerns about Cordell flat going into the season I'm gon start with coach and then we gonna go through the panel but tell me about Cordell flat heading into the season he is our quarterback too in this scenario what I've seen what a little bit I've seen and all indications he's a liability he really is a liability I don't know what it is if he's just lacks confidence um or what I mean being out of position um blown coverages or contributing to blown coverages that really stresses the the the entire defense um and you know right now I my confidence level with him is probably um on a scale of 1 to 10 9.5 I'm I'm that concerned with him um and um his ability to produce out there on the field um you know when you go over the death chart it's going to it's going to even show how much more I'm concerned you know with him and his play right now um we definitely have to get someone out there at quarterback to who can uh step up and and and man the position I mean seriously I mean whether you're playing Zone whether you're playing man you know don't force our our coaching staff to always have to play um a few coverages because said player is not grasping the the backend coverages so um again I'm I'm really concerned right now I I I I've I'm to the point where they need to sit him down and get somebody else out there because I I consistently hear problems and you know what little bit I've seen it it's it's not good so he said a ninepoint at out of 10 that's that's Ring the Alarm so okay go ahead NY SP spit Your unpopular opinion coach said it man Cordell fly is burnt toast man he he's burnt toast man he's he's look man Brian dable I I appreciate you giving a player confidence saying look you know I got confidence in flop man but that's a heap of [ __ ] right there bro damn a a a can have no confidence in that in that dude man you know what I'm saying he's he's out there getting cooked left and right and and to me and to me to make my point to make my point they were out there looking for a corner before they signed Burns they they were going to spend that money on a corner don't forget that so you know all this we got confidence and flly take that n million and go out and get a get a proven veteran or somebody that can at least look decent out there we know Banks is we expect Banks to elevate and be that number one shutdown Corner we just need somebody at the number two spot that's not getting barbecued out there on every play and flat from what I seen yeah ain't looking too good right now for the young fella I mean I I hope it works out for him you know but right now some players just need time to sit that's why having veterans on a a team is so important everybody's oh we need young players really put the young guy and put the sometimes these young players need to sit and watch and learn you can't just throw everybody out there as a rookie and expect him to shine or as a secondy year player and expect him to shine so um it ain't working out for flat right now in Camp and the Giants got to make a move there but yeah y'all got it yeah I think uh the thing with flat I think they see the thing with him is like he's supposed to be a slot corner right he's not supposed to be like a like a CB2 right cuz that's what they picked him in the draft coming on come came out come out of the draft he was like supposed to be a slot so now he's playing out of position playing as a CB2 and then like I said it's a shame bowst a new system and stuff like that and for his part I think the preseason we'll see if like you know I'm saying see what the Giants do if they going to be really concerned like by the preseason if he's not really playing up the par something like that then like I SRE NY they gonna go go get a quarterback too but like I said for the most part he probably his probably play probably could be covered up by the defense by the defensive line if they could get to the quarterbacks and stuff like that and you know that'll mask some of the problems you know what I'm saying or he might pick up his play but as far as that I think he's out of position as CB2 I think he's a slot Corner tell you to real quick man cave um that's a good point you make um with the defensive line you know possibly covering up some of the deficiencies in the secondary but we got to understand as good as our defensive line um or as good as we expect our defensive line to be they you can't pressure and and and sack the quarterback on every play so at some point your secondary is going to have to hold up you know when you're going against those those top number one receivers and against the better quarterbacks in the league that can get the ball out quick it's yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be some problems I'm telling you unless they need to get that fixed for go no no no that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying like you know by this preseason game like I said they'll know like within the first two second preseason game like you know what I don't think he's ready we just going to go get which I think they are going to go get a quarterback anyway with the uh the money that we got left and stuff like that so that's why I think we gonna get a cornerback or n unless if Flatt turns it around during the preseason man you just never know the light ball might go off possible that's true you gotta get him some real game reps to really see but e if you're still there man what you think about Cordell flop brother I am definitely right here Brothers joining the greatest panel in the world you see how I did that right you see how I did that hit that like Buton see how I did that right that like feel me act like y'all know what time it is man like And subscribe to these brothers shows your support your love they out here doing it what they need to do to make you guys get that education and like I said you will not leave when to how you came so shout outs to you Brothers man thank you for having me on but the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear Cordell Flat's name is I couldn't help but notice your pain my pain it runs deep share it with Meo yo he is in pain you hear me bro Mr T so much pain what's your thoughts on this fight he looks like he yo I'm gonna be honest gentlemen I was there absolutely brother shout out to Danny durag akd murder so tell us what you saying out there brother um first of all Brothers let me just say this to everybody that's listening thank you for putting up with me I've seen an offense that it can be opportunistic when they get a chance if they give that boy time he's making throws and practice that we've never even seen him making games because he's never practiced them before he led H today and if he didn't lose his own feet a lot of people thought oh it could have been a better throw [ __ ] I was right there the ball went exactly over his shoulder in front of him and the fact that he led him like that which is perfect he tripped up a little bit so he wind up stumbling I don't know if y'all saw that play but that's a touchdown if he stays on his feet he's stumbled on his own he didn't overthrow he didn't mislead the ball went right to his hands over his shoulder one of the things that I was talking about and emphasize on the offense is scheme wise I think a lot of people won't know what brillo's scheme is but it's definitely going to be something in the zone you know run Zone scheme it's going to be the The Zone it's going to be a Zone power scheme he has the guys the Hogs to do it so we're going to see a little bit of a mixup it won't be what we saw with saquan Barkley which was more zap Gap Zone you know but we're going to see some good things out of that I'm not gonna give too much away but on the defense yo man it's gonna be tragedy for a lot of teams out here they're really really really gonna feel the pain of the New York football Giants and I say that respectfully because they got a chance to take out that frustration that they have with one another every day today against somebody else see it's a different type of vibe when you play against comfort and then when you play against uncomfortable you can smile and shake hands at the end of a practice with your brothers but at the end of one of these it's a it's a straight Fu off the cuff you feel me so today was more Fu you come into my building you've been here before but I don't really respect you I don't like you and I got something to prove against you so when Jared goof was out there with the ones he was struggling bro he was struggling I don't know what highlights they sent anybody but Jared go was struggling against the ones on defense today and Danny AKA D rag AKA D murder let it be known I don't know what's going on with him right now he might have hit that Zaza but he was dead listen I don't know what was up with him to day man he was really bugging out Danny demons I don't know what we gonna call him but he had some things on his mind he made some great throws some great decisions but the one thing that I saw which had nothing to do with him but it was pertaining to him was the fact that he had time I don't think he's used to three seconds in the pocket nope he was able to scout able to scavenge able to look around able to be a quick decider against the one on offense Aiden Hutchinson and them boys wasn't letting up this wasn't no light practice they was out there battling and fighting today man and for everybody who was out there today too shout outs to them shout outs to Chef Ronnie shout outs to Gringo scoo um there was a couple of other people Trina AKA love one uh giant sing a bunch of people that was just there today you know that I want to say shout outs to and thank you guys for letting me give you a little bit of what I saw today with my own eyes and I'm telling you right now man a demonic defense and an opportun offense we got one of those okay I need you to tell that to um same difference on your about D Danny dimes oh yeah he gonna learn don't worry I've been posting demonic Danny dag AKA D murder we good dag Danny but based on all you guys analysis about Cordell flly this is where he's [Music] going looks like we got another one on the [Applause] ground this is the gag in here you fight to win back your life G yeah y'all just sent that man to the goog live but but you know what it is Pat I am a little taken back right because now that he's gotten a chance to be a solo act right there's a difference in football and everybody on this panel knows there's a difference between being a group and between being a solo act he ain't Ral tresan bro he Ral tresan he he he mik from BBD you know what I'm saying he mik from BBD bro like yo it's happening I don't know what it is maybe he didn't put in enough work enough time or just maybe he's a better spot Duty cornerback but having him out there on guys like League yeah man I don't yo every down but I I I do want to talk to my brother NY about something that he said uh during this Cordell flat goog session um you you said you calling out Brian dble on some [ __ ] when he said that he had confidence in Cordell flly now I want you to elaborate on that for me if you can if you want to yeah yeah I I will um because as I mentioned they were in the market for a quarterback they knew they had a whole at corner they knew they needed to upgrade that position at that number two cornerback spot you know what I'm saying and and I understand the the I understand the reasoning behind him saying it but I'm saying is in the back of their mind behind closed doors him and Joe Shane know or knew they needed to upgrade that spot based on their actions and as I mentioned earlier they were in the cornerback Market they mentioned it on hard knock's uh the recent episode they were looking at Koolaid mckinstry and Kamari Lasser in round two so where's all this confidence for fly you're not your only confidence in flat is because that's all you [ __ ] got that's what I'm talking about it's called a lack of options yeah so I just wanted you to elaborate on that because a lot of people would take that the wrong way oh he's calling uh calling Brian Deo out no it's just calling a spade a spade everybody on this panel really knows that when he said I have confidence Cordell flat that was kind of well nyg doesn't say anything the pull punches or save your feelings you just call [ __ ] and basically that's what it was it was [ __ ] um you can't really have confidence of Cordell flop in that position because you never really seen him play that position at a a huge clip he's always been in the slot and then you drafted Drew Phillips to play the slot because maybe you didn't have confidence of Cordell flat in the slot so yeah you gotta you sometimes in life you just got to call a spade a spade and just let it be known because the truth it may hurt but it makes you better because you don't need anybody lying to you to be honest with you you don't need anybody around you to be lying to you and that's just in life you don't need someone around you that's gonna lie and pump your head up oh those Yes Man type dudes that's why all those entertainers be wilding out and everything because they got people around them that's just yes man because they got their hands out we don't do that here if if nyg told me the other day and I keep saying dude keep doing your videos the way you doing them man you [ __ ] you don't have to be like nobody else you you right I thank him for that you know what I'm saying because the two videos I did today I'm back to my regular numbers so it is what it is sometimes you need people like that you need people to tell you what it really is because that's the only way you gonna get better as a person at anything that you do so yeah I just wanted you to elaborate on that because I don't want people to take it the wrong way yeah but no ain't no shot at ain't no shot at coach dabes um you know I'm I'm in support of what him and Joe Shane are doing you know what I'm saying but I mean look you can't get it all right all the time I'm I'm fair with that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like I understand that you can't get every decision right 100 percent of the time these people are human they're not you know some type of what human they're not wizard that could just wave a wine and everything goes correct like they think everybody else does so yeah I get it they they make mistakes you know what I'm saying but that's what we're here as like you mentioned as Giants content creators to point out the good but to also be fair and point out some of the mistakes that's all yeah I mean that's that's what we got to do so we going to talk a little bit about the another part of the defense since we already sent Cordell flot to the goog um let's talk about uh another part of this secondary and a part of the defensive tackle rotation who steps up in the secondary will it be Dane Belton or will it be Tyler Newman that's part one and then part two who's going to be that second defensive tackle along Dexter Lawrence will it be Ryder Anderson will it be uh uh Jordan Riley uh will it be uh nacho will it be Davidson will it be Chapman or will it be some other guy we bring in who knows you already know Joe Shane's probably got about five people he already targeting he already bring in on waiver wire so I mean coach what what do you think about those two very very important positions that we have no real answer for right now besides the cornerback two position I think you saf is going to be belting in in pinu right now um number one Newan is still coming back from an injury he's still learning you know even though he's Uber talented don't get me wrong but Belton you know he's been in the system a little bit long he is showing me a lot more confidence out there um I mean heck with that fight he was right in the middle of it too so you know um he's just playing at a different level and plus I think they have the right type of scheme for him so um I think he's going to start the season with Pino at the safety position as far as the DT um I still think it's going to come down to the wire um you know um between Anderson and Nunes and it really depends on more of I think the opponent that you're facing if you're going to be facing more of a of a run based team you know it might be new uh nacho because he's a better run player a run Defender I'm not saying Anderson isn't but he's more astute in the Run game and Anderson you know has has a little bit better pass rushes um than than uh nacho so I think it's going to come down to those two in the end um Jordan Phillips just I don't know what's up with him so and you know I think Chapman probably Chapman will eventually um take him it's just that he's a rookie I mean that kid has quickness every reports indicate that he's extremely fast off the line of scrimmage and he's going to be he's going to get the opportunity in pass wrestling situations um to take advantage of you know the the offensive players offensive linemen that are out there but um the DT I think is going to come down to nacho or Anderson you know unless for some reason it's somebody who really um gets cut by another team who they feel is is just a camp Miss and they're going to snatch him up I feel you on that um those two positions are up in the air but I do believe the safety position unless nuben comes in and has an excellent preseason I do believe it's gonna be Dave Belton and pinck but nyg what you think about it brother those two positions um as far as safety's concerned um I agree with coach I think it's going man like I put it out there on Twitter um and y'all can stamp is a as an unpopular opinion or maybe it's not too unpopular but I think Jason pinck is the most underrated player on this Giants defense like that dude makes plays and he's around the football a lot you know what I'm saying and and and he's going to I think him and Simmons on the they going to be keys to this defense you know what I'm saying especially when it comes to guarding the um tight end and running backs that we gonna be facing so that's something to look out for but I think it's Dane Belton initially like coach said I think nuan's a little bit behind um given the injury and just giving he just you know it takes time to learn that position and you you have Belton in there who's already been in the um well been in D system for a while now so um I think they want to give him a shot um to at least you know initially start as they bring Tyler nubin along a little bit slower I think maybe that's their plan now with the defensive tackle uh next to deck it's hard to say who it's G to be but I'm going tell you who it needs to be it needs to be Jordan Riley and I'm going to tell you why first of all Jordan rileigh is a draft picked um of Joe Shane and Joe Shane has to some of these draft picks start to have to hit start to have to be check marks like we can check those off like uh all right hit oh that's good that's Yad y y so I want to see Jordan Riley take an another step in year two and he shown flashes that's reason number two like he show flashes we see potential for him to be like that can be a fearsome front four if Jordan rileigh can get after the quarterback like Dex and you got those two big monsters Pauls with with Tibido and and burns and you can rotate oori and and nacho and the rest of them in there I mean damn but I want to see Jordan Riley take that take that spot I think that would be that would be a big deal to me and that would be a big uh deal for the Giants because that means look you gota you gotta book and D tackle next to your your Superstar you know what I'm saying for the long term because he's a rookie and he's under contract now I don't know what happened with DJ Davidson seemed like he kind of fell off a little bit but I'm looking at Jordan Riley be that dude to be that next great look we always been a d tackle Factory when it comes to drafting right I think Jordan Riley could be that next that next hit y'all I'm telling you I got confidence in this kid just to piggy back off what you just said right there absolutely makes a lot of sense um a lot of people not gonna agree with you about he needs to be the other defensive tackle but I kind of agree with that because I think he has the most Talent out of those guys um and he has the most ability to be an actual solid defensive tackle that that can start on about any team as long as he keeps developing we can have decks and then we can have baby decks so I see where you're going with it and it's a very good thing but yeah I understand that c what you got for me I totally agree with nyg I've always been a Jordan Riley man ever since last year like I said the little times I've seen him play he pushes the pocket back if you got two guys pushing the pocket back with him and deck in there that could also clog up the Run game you know what I'm saying to stop the run and stuff like that and bring more pressure to the quarterback to get the quarterback to go to the outside towards Burns and Tibido so you want to flush that inside you know with with Dex and Jordan Riley to flush that quarterback out to those guys who who's going to be waiting to sack them you know what I'm saying so I totally agree with the Jordan Raley thing Nunes uh roaches last said he played last year but I mean he was all right I didn't think he was like you know I know aan Robinson played better than he did you know what I'm saying as far as stopping and running things like that so me like I said I'm more with uh Jordan Riley to play you know next to Dexter Lawrence that's who I want to see because like I said he is Young he is one of our draft pick and he does have talent ain't like he just you know like he's not like no Boogie bash him or something like that you know what I'm saying he's like please he you got some Talent so yeah you put him over there man I want to see that though because like I said I want to see that pocket like collapse with Dex and uh Jordan Riley in there you know and then as far as like the safety yeah I agree I think it's gonna be pinck and on Belton but I could also see a a three safety you know CU Shane Bowen does play so Tyler Nu is gonna play because if you really look at it we play some physical teams that like to run the ball Tyler nub he's a physical tackler so that's another added you know to stop the running things like that you need that physicality in the back you know with them other guys them other guys are ball Hawks and stuff like that you know belton's like he'll intercept the ball he's not so much of a tackler but you know you get a tackler back there like a short-handed tackler and you know if he could be like how Landon Collins was for us back in that back in the safety you know what I'm saying how T could be like Landon Collins was he was a short tackler when Landon Collins was back there he made them plays you know good point cave and if you can stop that you can stop that you g you're gonna neutralize these teams you know like going deep and things like that and also uh making them onedimensional like take away that run game make them you know onedimensional to throw the ball and then you know you can pin your ears back and then you got a Tibido uh Dexter Lawrence and um and um Burns you know so that's what I see as far as like the safety look and then um as far as like the cornerback where you know flat is like depends on what they do if they go to three safety then you really ain't got that QB too you know what I'm saying because they they they'll uh how can I say like how what's the name to do it I think Spagnola how his defense used to be was like unorthodox you couldn't tell what was coming you know that's a fact um can I interject something for a second go ahead coach in reference to nyt's point about Jordan Riley um I mean I have to see it because what most people don't realize playing the one or the zero Tech is totally different than playing a three Tech it really is true so I I get I get Jordan Riley he can push the pock but a lot of times he's pushing the pocket right over the center as opposed to going outside the guard and pushing pushing the pocket that way it's a different angle it's a different technique that's why sometimes some teams when they put a three Tech a three Tech is a little bit smaller um depends on the scheme but you know that's why last year our base defense was actually a three four so they were playing more of a five so you could have bigger um line in there right now all indications is we're more of an even front a four type of a remember when when Dexter Lawrence first came here where was he playing the three Tech and he did not look good but we moved him inside to the one to the zero and he became an all pro that's my only concern where if you move Ry out there now if he moves out there and he shows he can do it great I'm all for it but I also am I'm also real to the fact if he's a if he plays like a better as a one or a zero Tech you don't move him you do not move him to the three Tech I get you want to put him at a DT but it's a different technique it's a different way to play it um and you know some guys just Dexter Lawrence is a prime example he was good but he became Elite when you moved him inside that's a fact hey let me say this yeah that's a very good point coach TJ I think this is coach TJ from uh Twitter uh with this comment right here that's Gotta Be You because that's how you talk uh Andrew what's going on uh thank you for tuning in average Beast thank you for tuning in man appreciate you guys uh F blizzard thank you for tuning in appreciate you for tuning in but I I hear all you guys uh Chris D Lil Boer all you guys are making some damn good points um e what you got for me first of all n y we got beef because you stole a thunder brother you feel me you know what I'm saying we gonna talk on this off air you heard mind your business you understand mind your business keep talking about somebody else me because we definitely had a conver ation one the question was posed about the um safety position right now pin and um let me bring up a name that I haven't heard nobody say and I thought they were gonna say it McLoud is having one of the best underrated camps possible and it's reminding me of pin's Camp from last season put everybody on notice in Camp and his play translated to the field last season McLoud is having one of those same type of camps I'm just telling you that now I didn't think that was gonna happen I thought I was gonna be speaking about Belton and Newan and that was it right there you know thinking that we just got our draft pick we got the best safety in the draft according to all of our opinions and thought processes and the world and then Belton taking his Leap Forward because on spot Duty we've seen him be definitely a player but Nick McLoud is taking steps and I'm very happy to see that so I definitely think it's going to be belt and probably starting because of the experience Factor but eventually we're looking for nuben to take that step up right now he's not you know he's not playing as fast as he should be I saw something today where he took a horrible angle instead of backpedaling he left his feet open and everybody knows that that's the worst position to have because you cannot move side to side when your feet are flat and he took a horrible angle on Montgomery for a running play and whiffed just looked crazy right in front of me but um so he's learning you know and that's a rookie right there so we gonna give him some Graces but Jordan Riley is definitely the name that I was going to bring up definitely speak about I'm very very high on this young man PA because of the fact that what I see in his toolbox he reminds me of a Jonathan henkins a lot of people don't want to talk about it he has that big lower body that those long arms and he's more athletic than you really understand until you see it in front of you he's knifing through the defenses he's right there to to make the plays that counts but he just needs the Reps he's just one of those guys like Jonathan henkins remember big Hank had to back up a couple of people on the DT list before he got where he needed to get and they finally found him three techniqu in it and saying you know what this is where he's best at and I think that that's going to be the same situation for Jordan Riley now don't get it twisted I don't know what's going on with DJ Davidson maybe he's not working out as hard maybe he's taking a step back or maybe the r and the defensive scheme is a little bit different remember certain defensive schemes fit certain defensive players skill sets coach alluded to Dex Lawrence we had him in the wrong position when we had Pat Shera in those guys right but as soon as he was switched to the one Tech and zero Tech look at his career look at his skill set look at his agility look at his strength and look at the fact that he's the number one DT in the NFL hands down he's the number one DT in the NFL Aaron Donald's gone that spot goes to Dex no question and um he's hurting people in practice to prove it like yeah he's hurting his own damn he's hurting his own teammates man crazy right but uh 40 love what's going on thank you for tuning in atrax thank you for tuning in uh yes I do think Eric gray makes this team BK godson and he said he can't block that's a rap he must be talking about Evan nil got to you guys did mention one name that I cannot stand we gonna get another special uh G Going freaking Boogie bash good Lord looks like we got the another one on [Applause] ground I can't stand that man agree Pat you hear me agree when atic higher bro man I can give you that speed out there we gave him a six round pick for him six round pick right yeah something like that um um but you you all all you guys made some damn good points in your own way about those two positions uh that's why I love this panel man uh I can't actually can agree with just about everything you guys say in certain ways um a lot of people not gonna agree that Jordan Riley needs to be that other dtech um D tackle I mean but I do believe that's the guy that should be able to go to the Forefront and be that guy that we can count on opposite of De now when it comes to the pass rush situation I think that's a tossup between Chapman and Ryder Anderson if we want to do a pass R situation with a dude next to Dexter Lawrence or can we get it to where oari would be that guy when we have you in third and long and just send oari Burns Tibido and Dex at you you see what I'm saying I want to get to that point too like third and 10 third and 12 yeah send those four monsters out out there and we got people in coverage we should be good Alex what's going on uh B uh boo a triple7 says great panel underrated yes we are underrated that is very true until we hit you with them old man punches uh he said I heard nacho had a really good day is learning more about being a pass rusher let me tell you something about nacho he might just be a filler in man uh I don't believe nacho is going to turn into that guy that that gets paid next to Dexter Lawrence and maybe I'm hopefully I'm wrong you know he can turn into that guy but I just don't think he's that guy and I don't know man um I think he's just a starter right now because of experience absolutely absolutely absolutely a guy that's you you you abolutely he's just a guy right he you know what I'm saying because he got put on both knees by kubas undrafted rookie and I mean he got like he was praying out there like your heads yeah K got oh so if kubas is doing that to you I'm quite sure offensive lines we're going up against AR gonna have too many issues he got enough strength P to open up a bag of nachos see how I did that see chil but yeah damn man that that was crazy I was like man that was kind of embarrassing yo I didn't realize how small Chapman is Brothers yeah Chapman's like yeah he's about six feet I think he's about six feet because I'm almost I'm tell he's from where I'm at he's right right here in streetport from where I'm at I almost look him eye to eye yeah he I didn't know he was that I took a picture of him I'll sent it to you guys later on today he was like the the baby of the DT Bunch standing there I'm like yo you know what people say that about Aaron darnold too I'm only like 510 511 and I'm almost looking him so he might be shter guys got that lower center of gravity got with it and they can get underneath yeah so if Dexter Lawrence is taking two people he got that speed to get around Dexter Lawrence pretty damn fast to get in there and Sack somebody which he's is is doing like Alex said um Elijah Chapman was working his ass off today yeah that dude that dude works I think make this roster he's underrated he's underrated strong too yeah but his center of gravity he can anchor for a defensive lineman he's strong he's a great anchor like yo today they wasn't moving him back what I look for when I look at D line versus o line I want to see if you got grass kicking up out of your spikes if you being pushed back not today he was a straight young Wolverine so I mean he could be like TJ I'm only about five 510 511 and Chapman's like right there with me so he's about 5'11 six foot yeah I'm almost six foot I ain't short short I still knock somebody out oh but uh but um do you guys have any more question questions about the actual practice or the roster the day before we get into the schedule and probably head out tonight one thing I want to say real quick for those that weren't there right Pat I just want to give someone some people an observation today's scheme was a lot different than any other time we played offensively we was pushing it was a lot of pull it was a lot of Zone stretch today we play some Zone stretch instead of uh Zone Gap uh power power we played a lot of Zone stretch for today just to get some angles on these defensive players for the lions please do not get it twisted they have a top 10 defense they have a top 10 defense so for them guys to move them around and pull alumino like that and have him on Aiden Hutchinson and and letting people know you're not touching my quarterback there's a different attitude with this offensive line I'm not saying that we going to be World beaters I'm just saying we not gonna be Daniel Jones Breakers yeah that's I say I want to say this too you guys um pull up Nick Fat's breakdown of I said it earlier of of Van Ron the the man's run blocking is much better than people are giving him credit for and he takes proper angles in the zone scheme and he works very well it does it's not just it's not just lunor he works very well with the center and his ability to flip his hips and seal the alley in the Block in the Run game is justess imense um I was I was pleasantly pleased when I was sitting there watching this film and and and of course we already know He pass blocking he he's Elite but I I just highly recommend you guys because I'm just so amped to watch him um in this game live in regular game and um I I get what you're saying Alex um I'm going to the thing I will say to you guys too about him playing Center um if you look at the dep chart he's not listed at Center and for him to come in this week and start at Center in a in a in in a dual practice that speaks volumes to the other guys who were there that's not about him that speaks to the guys who were who have already been here and you're going somebody come in and start and he's only been here not even a week that's that that's that's that's an indictment to the centers that we already have here that's a absolute fact coach because if they feel a guy that play that's playing out of place is way better than you to start immediately that says a lot about our backup centers man that's kind of scary says a lot about skill set from a guy who was positioned to be the possible right tackle due to our injured right tackle playing against the guy that he already has you know what I mean uh uh camaraderie with he's in sync with in his old teammate in alumor now he moves to the center position right and he's able to shore up that line and anchor in one week well Alex says I won't completely say he's outplayed our backup centers uh being there well he's getting a rep so I guess they they feel confident in him being out there Alex so you're out there so maybe you can tell us a little bit more about the centers but yeah that that that is kind of alarming that he's his first he ain't even been here a full week yet has no no four days and three day three nights he he was on the bottom of the P he was on the bottom of the P that's crazy he a he got that Resort package four days and three nights you heard real I tell you what though don't touch him you see who is protect don't touch him you see you see who his protector is don't touch my friends p with no no say oh he said uh no no says what's going on no no thank you for tuning in good to see you brother he says Pat Fell's question anyone here find a big blue online podcast that dude Tim how can you be a fan p listen bro me and that dude got history bro I Challen that dude literally challenged me to a debate on his channel and backed out and tried to get my channel taken down because he was scared of me Point Blank period that dude would never say another word to me on here or in real life because he already know what it is so I know what he talking about actually was doing a show with him until he backed out and that's when I met Lou and that's when the big blue crew was started so I do give him kudos for being a coward and allowing the big blue crew to be formed so I at least give him that but other than that that dude's trash bro like he he's he panders to fans he brings up black quarterbacks every year and people just float to oh yeah he's he's talking about dude you just you don't even know he's just pandering to you just to get your little view because you're so gungho getting rid of DJ this is the same dude that compared DJ to T TBO you know what I'm saying straight up it's ridiculous you doing a death chart yeah I'm G to bring up the death chart now let me get off that clown but um we gonna look at the death chart right now thank you coach uh we gonna uh get on the death chart right now um as you know the official death chart was released today and can you you guys see that pretty good yeah yeah okay an official death chart was released today so basically at the receiver two position they have jayen Hyatt Darius Slayton which I said they will do I do believe they're going to split snaps until one of them shows that uh that the other is not good enough to outbeat me to be the receiver too I do believe that's GNA happen and believe it or not I think Jaylen hayatt is getting first cracked um looks like they're going with the youth movement with the receivers and you can actually tell in the body language of darus Slayton during training camp he I'm not saying that he looks disinterested or he's just slow dogging it it's just you can look at his face and just tell body language that he already knows that Jaylen high is gonna get the first crack to be receiv yeah he he probably wants out at this point yeah and I'm coming off the bench uh this year so you're benching me again first first time you benched me you really didn't believe that I had any skill and then now the second time you bench me for the young fell so don't be surprised if there's like a a surprise trade or something that happens with uh darus Slayton and I signed the dumbest contract in wide receiver history let's get that out yeah the slot receiver is gonna be W Robinson obviously uh backed up by Isaiah McKenzie and gunar uh right tackle they got Jermaine alumor Right Guard they got Aaron stenny Center John Michael smithz left guard John runan and left tackle uh Andrew Thomas running back Devin single ter number one receiver obviously Malik Neighbors being backed up by Isaiah Hodgins Robinson and Bryce for weaton what's going on Lou um number one tight end right now is Daniel Bellinger Lawrence cager is backing him up Chris manerz then Theo Johnson and quarterback uh Daniel Jones you know Drew lock and Tommy DeVito now the surprises here are that they have Aaron stenny at Right Guard instead of Greg van Roden so I don't know how long ago this list was made maybe it was made about three days ago um not a surprise to me but they got Jaylen Hyatt uh ahead of Darius Slayton to be honest um and at tight end they got Theo Johnson as the number four tight end and Daniel bager as a starter with Lawrence cager and Chris man herds backing him up so I mean that's your starting lineup there and is there any surprises to you guys we GNA go on the panel is there any surprises about that starting lineup right there uh we gonna start with Coach then we're gonna go down the line um I mean van Ren eventually is going to you know you know supplant in my opinion supplant stinny but other than that no I mean everything else is um well yeah it's up yeah this needs to be updated because Jon Corbin was let go today also so um but yeah other than that no everything is offensively no this you know miles W and Dennis Houston you know um as far as the receivers there's no major surprise is there other than that you know that's what what year I'm telling you New York everybody sorry I've been holding that in but yeah no I mean you know I mean Alex is saying he surprised mil miles is in second teams so that I can't I mean I haven't seen him so you know I'd have to wait for his game film or you know live action to see but offensively everything is not a surprise to me well well you know what yeah um what you call it at the four string tight end maybe that that's about it right all right nyg what you got um I mean like I said not not too much going on there um definitely uh surprised to see Daniel Jones as qb1 n let me [Laughter] stop Danny dag AKA D murder but um but n man like I said I think uh I think it's I think it time's about up for Slayton here you know what I'm saying uh wow I think um yeah that is surprising surprising coming from him that's what I'm saying it feels like it feels like it's it's it's about yeah it's about time to I feel and it's it's not and it's not slayton's fault man it's it's Jaylen Hay's fault man it's j jayen hay is putting that pressure on dude bro like this dude is serious with it like he he he he is serious with that [ __ ] man I mean you you as a Giants fan I [ __ ] love that [ __ ] you know what I'm saying I'm not attached to no particular play I'm not that type of type of fan you know what I'm saying I only supported Slayton because I thought he got a bad rap much like people support DJ because they thought he got a bad rap you know what I'm saying so um but yeah looks like the writing's on the wall man that's that's one of my main takeaways from that depth chart I don't I don't think he's going to be gone I think he they're probably gonna find a trade for him because think about it he wants look he this dude went on keesan Johnson's podcast saying he wants like 100 something targets a season he ain't getting that [ __ ] here like he got to go somewhere and be somebody's like solid number two to even come close to that so I and and and then and then there was the contract see I I read tea leaves like [ __ ] building up there was the contract situation there was him being benched like that [ __ ] that [ __ ] adds up in somebody's psyche and and sooner or later you like you know what just just move me I'm not part of the future here he's still a young player you know what I mean so that's how I feel about it you know what we need the picks go ahead get a fourth round pick for fifth round pick for that compensatory pick we're gonna get for actually it if if Kate Saint is still watching he actually had a very good thing about uh Darius Slayton in the trade he said trade him to the new orans Saints and get marshan Latimore back in return oh that be nice be nice because I mean look at our wide receiver room right now we can afford that right now you know you know got some in there now got some depth definitely man I mean if you if you let Slayton go and you want to keep asan Robinson or hodin or somebody on the roster you know you can still do that you can make room for a guy like maybe uh McKenzie or or somebody as a as de for your uh slack guy so I mean ways to ways to do it you know what I'm saying but I just think like with Slayton it just and I think I think this is how Darius Slayton feels you know what I'm saying and that's why that's where I think this is coming from I'm just seeing how how like Pat said just kind of reading between the lines a little bit and how how how he kind of taking [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so can I give a different POV on this my brothers you got it see the problem is not nothing that anybody said here the problem is something totally different it's called Malik neighbors it's called Malik neighbors you see we've been so used to looking at a number three receiver put in a number one wide receiver position we forgot what one two and three actually look like and your ass got the fight to be in between three and four see he's never been in a fight before for because we've never had anybody over him so that's why he was the leading receiver due to a lack of options now you see what a number one receiver look like if Darius Slayton didn't talk about getting paid and taking the worst contract in wide receiver history for incentives would we actually know who he was on this team he has gotten no press except for his commentary he's gotten no plays in practice that made him look like okay he's the guy there is no excitement around him because you know why you have that dog in Malik neighbors that developing receiver in jayen hayatt that slot lock down in wand Del Robinson and they have even formed a bond you ever notice when they do that little Spider-Man point at each other Hein involved yeah it's just the three the three young just the three of them he's never had to deal with that type of pressure before and he's looking scared let's say for what let's say about let's say what it is okay he's looking scared he knows his minutes is about to get lower he's definitely not going to hit those incentives because he played himself and now he getting crazy remember he's always been on the team by theault last season they were trying to get rid of him if it wasn't for an injury he would have never been here this year let's get that out there I disagree with that but yeah remember they were trying to trade him away were trying to trade him they were okay so if they were trying to trade him and and there's no injury right he's not here well they didn't like him they KN I mean they they you know he wasn't uh they Pi they stuck with him out of necessity but then he got of carved himself out a roll here now like you said we've got receivers and you know he's he's not up to par so as far as you know with those guys but you know I I think I think he stays on the team man yeah he's definit had an injury that he's coming back from Alan Robinson hasn't put enough uh uh stuff on on the field yet for them to really make a decision I think because he has familiarity with the team the offense and Jones I think he still makes the roster right and Isaiah has been AB I think he I think he makes D raser let me just be clear what I'm saying I think he makes the rer I think he wants a yeah that's what I was gonna say I think he want out yeah because he feels he feels disrespected and slighted yeah he feel slighted that's that's the only thing they perform better than you your best thing you can do is is you know not go out talking [ __ ] and be like look I don't think I'm gonna get much playing time here I would prefer you guys trade me somewhere where I can try to primarily be the number two guy you know what I mean or maybe even the three but you know I want to go somewhere where I can get some run I'm not gonna get no run here be hon an [ __ ] yeah shoot yourself in the foot because you ain't made enough good Splash plays for somebody to really want you so if you start talking media you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot but to be honest with you guys I don't even think it's because he's not good enough for lack of talent I just believe that he's in a bad situation with a young guy like Jaylen hayatt that has a similar skill set to you that is Young exactly what I think it is right and they're gonna go with the youth movement he doesn't have Jay if Jaylen H is not here he's the number two and he's happy easily yeah exactly my point and and and then he can demand the money that he [ __ ] wants yeah right about not signing a [ __ ] incentive La contract that you know you ain't never going to make that's why that's why I said the is high like and and the drive home ease point he doesn't have that caderie like those three young guys do that they relate to each other better and neighbors was his worst nightmare that was it that was it because now when neighbers comes in he's still young like w Del Robinson and Hy and all those guys every time you see those three guys are right there when one of them makes a play they're right there they have that caderie together and that is strong you don't want to break that bond that they have by putting Slayton in there overh high and Pat let me say this right the greatest thing that Darius Slayton can do this season being in between a three and four is play that Destroyer role that I like to call it that oh man his he he ran back the punt for us what was his Deshawn Jackson that Deshawn Jackson played with the Rams do you guys remember every time Deshawn Jackson got into a game last season or the season before that excuse me he scored a touchdown on a go route that's what Darius Slayton can become once the ball is in his hands most likely it's a touchdown or a 40 yard the 50 yard play to get the offense up the field to keep us excited that is what he has to become because he's always going to be better than the fourth cornerback maybe some threes you feel me if he was just a little bit more consistent with catching and a little bit better with his route running that would be Hyatt's role instead of him right you see but H has better hands hayatt has better hands it looks like his route running is getting better too so that's why you see jayen H slash Slayton I think hayatt has more of an active fight for the football yeah that's where I think it the separation is ha is going to go where where you see Slayton sometimes I'm not saying he quits on the play but I don't know if he necessarily maybe not have the physicality or or I don't know I could tell you what it is I can tell you it real quick I don't want to interrupt you yeah n and when you see um when you see hayatt when you see him like have that like he's almost like how you was saying um baby uh Dex he's like baby Malik H with speed you know what I'm saying he's going to fight for the for the ball he's going to have that dog mentality that there there exactly bookends he attacks the ball that's what I'm talking about slay doesn't slayen doesn't necessarily do that that's the that's he has the ability to do it that's what that's what makes you kind of crazy because his rookie year he was doing it right but it's his it's his ability not to fight through plays at the line the scrimmage and why when he's man pressed right if he put hands on him he's one of those type of cats that like when you play ball you can talk him out of his game because he doesn't like to be physical some dudes just doesn't like the physicality of playing a basketball game right they always want to call a foul that was a foul right there it's always a foul he's that way if you ever listen to him when he talks he says it yo man DBS are really slick in this game you know they they'll hold you pull you grab you push you and they know how to get away with it with the referees see that to me right there lets me know that there too much in your mind when you should be learning how to create separation hand fight learn how to Up and Under swim over the top pull latch and move and Escape at the line of scrimmage Hyatt naturally has better feet than Slayton off the line yeah that's a fact but you need to come and receiver like uh Adams over there Adams with the Raiders and dehop I think they're some of the best that do that them dudes get away with pushing off so much bro but they do it as such a subtle way that damn because that's the way dehop has been getting open the past two years I'll just be honest he because he doesn't have speed anymore to get past you so he he's using those little elbows to your rib to get you off that slight get off and he catches the ball it's crazy it's it's a lot of things that go nuances man little small nuances that he doesn't have and if he's not developed them and I'm supposed to see that in your fourth year I'm supposed to see you be able to hand fight at the line of scrimmage you know what I mean get away with if they're pressing you you're pulling them but you got that twitch where it doesn't get caught so he never developed these things and hayatt is developing them as time goes along in a shorter period of time yeah and that's why I think that Slayton will probably demand a trade by the midpoint if they don't trade him before the season by the midpoint he's probably going to demand a trade because I'm only getting by five to 10 reps a game I don't see how he gets the rep if if Hyatt's playing if Hyatt's out there balling I don't I don't see I see how he gets the five wide and and that's that's gonna piss him off because guess what he's in a contract year and he's trying to get paid so and I can't blame either because fact that's why that's why that's why I'm taking this approach to it you know what I'm saying because I'm not this isn't on the Gian you know what I'm saying this isn't on slaying this is just a fractured relationship yeah y I mean y Absolut you got anything any surprises with the offense before we get to the defense and Miz what's going on Miz I'm a good man what's up no only about this whole Slayton thing is this is where I stand right now and with what I'm seeing with this team the train is already on its way North if you ain't in it we're sorry no disrespect see you later left you at the station I'm done with people's feelings it's about [ __ ] winning now from here on that's it I'm done with that's more op no more feelings I'm sorry is check it out Slayton is an average white receiver he's a good hard worker he's a nice guy you want to know the difference between him and Hyatt like exactly what Alex just said Hyatt's got that young hungry dog in him Slayton he's just settling for like I'm good right here the other guys are reaching for the Stars you could see it and I don't know I'm not knocking him but you know I just we're going draft another young receiver next year so whatever but you have you have that difference in players right you have some guys who make it to the NFL and they content with just being an NFL athlete you have some guys who want to uh have the most sacks or the most catches or the most touchdowns and then you have some guys who just want to be the greatest ever right and you know that's kind of how you categorize the guys on your team you know what I mean and you want to get the guys who are just content with being on the team the [ __ ] up out of there you know what I mean and you want them guys who want to break Records who want to be the best who want to be the best team player who want to give their all for the team to win and and and go to a championship so you know that this whole process is is a process for a reason you weed these guys out you replace them you coach them up you see if they fit in if not you get them the effort out of there to rinse and repeat so you get what you want and and and you you go for the goal yeah super f as as far as like this um the only thing I seen was uh what's that I think van Ren is gonna be a starter though you know stin stiny gon be be listening to your boy around here manen right and then um I feel that Theo Johnson is gonna be he's gonna be a starter man sooner than um later because like I said D um Bellinger he misses too many assignments on his blocking assignments man he can't be doing that you know what I'm saying so I I see that's what I se that was a surprise like he's fourth on the dep chart you know so I think he'll be first on the depth chart within like the first couple of games of the Season man yeah I do truly believe that let me shout out a couple people that came into the chat chat I mean uh slay what's going on slay good to see you little bro uh David he said H is UN is isn't proven yet I don't know what you guys are talking about we're just talking about the semantics of it brother uh circle of Kings LLC hit that like And subscribe button for us every one of these content creators on the panel man good to see you he said the offense should be okay yes I think they're gonna be more okay as long as that offensive line blocks and David he says Daniel Jones is probably the most trusted Darius slate okay give me the big screen for a this Daniel J Too give me the big screen for a second sir please yeah hold on um this would probably be true if neighbors wasn't here exact that that right there that statement is true until neighbors came which elevated high and wand Robinson when he came on come on the New York Giants offense should be okay ladies and gentlemen boys and girls fat people and skinny people old people and young people ugly people and pretty people I need y'all to get one thing through y'all thick numb skulls the New York football Giants are going to go a minimum of 11 and six we're going to Stomp the [ __ ] out of and kick the teeth in of any who tries to stop it okay division champs NFC Champs maybe even a Super Bowl DJ balls the out throws 42 touchdowns and runs for eight total him 50 touchdowns we're gonna be the greatest show on Turf Big Blue version and you can take that [ __ ] to the bank because the leader of the blitz Squad G nation big blue himself says so be okay you know just did you know what L just did he allowed people to feel like how the Jamaicans start when ke Thompson W right shout out to Shan deception what's going on uh he said bearded DJ is dangerous DJ that's a fact that's a fact right Dag DJ Mur Big D yo Jer Jerry said right he said he had the most trust in Slayton because he was the best receiver he had but things have changed yeah that is very true you have made uh you make a good point here as well you says I'm just trying I'm just saying DJ doesn't have real game reps with Hyatt just yet but you can see it in practice you can see that he throws ball to hayatt with great confidence bro like if hayatt gets open he's gonna get the ball to him like facts like the offensive line gives him a pocket and if Hyatt is open there's no question in my mind DJ's not gonna release it to him the same thing with neighbors and the same thing with wand Robinson and it's the same thing with Slayton it's just semantics about it bro like NFL Chad o your snle everybody tell you man the phase out is real and I believe you're watching a phase out happen and it's and it doesn't have anything to do about Slayton being a bad person I think he could be a very good NFL uh receiver if he was over there with Atlanta he would be the number two receiver out there with uh Drake London and he would do just fine and I think he can actually get a thousand yards it just happens that we drafted Hyatt in the third round and he's developing pretty quick W because he's a CO yeah and ju Del you already know he has the slot receiver hands down and is developing quicker than what I originally thought I don't know about you guys but he's developing quicker than I originally thought if you look at that Arizona game from last year Pat yeah that would tell you right there how a wide receiver who was a rookie that didn't have any real game reps once he got in the game he was already trusted by Daniel Jones howatt made the plays downfield to help Daniel Jones win that game that's a fact and then that one pass when y'all say that he just has that dog in him that Slayton has to fight for the ball that second deep catch that he got he jumped up and grabbed it over that DB yeah when he when he threw it to him so I know di Jones doesn't have an issue throwing it to him it's just that and you seen Robson last year too Pat remember when he jumped up and caugh that pass and we've seen Slayton do it he just I don't know it's it's just weird man and he's in an unfortunate situation bro he's just not a dog man like let's let's call it what it is and get off the subject he's not a dog Slayton is a wide receiver dogs are Malik neighbors jayen hayatt W Robinson you've ell Beckham lucky I can't choke [ __ ] at you from over here yeah first of all mother see I ain't curse at you because I love you too much brother but um no I'm talking about get off the subject in my thought process for this kid this kid is it's over for him Lou it really truly is like I mean we watched him for four years he was the best of what we had and that wasn't even the best of what we needed he did what he had to do it's time to go s right to though with the 499 Super Chat for Lou he says salutes to L uh MCH man am I saying this righto de crew big blue crew fam and crew all big people tall people wide people small people greetings all of us in Italy F all Eagles losers he's talking to you slay um but yeah yeah 40 luck Slayton will be a monster on the Chiefs yeah abs monster he'll be way better than in Jerry's prony oh he be he'll be a monster on the bills and Tony got a third round pick they right if hold up hold up hold up hold up hold up cause cave just said something if you could get a [ __ ] third round pick for jerus prony and Jer is prony but I know where you're going but you can't it's his destination though yeah Slayton was aarius Tony was coming off being a first round pick destination well sometimes it defend of the team ability at all you advertisement when you do that don't bring up that cockroach's name but you but you but you're giving but look what you're doing is man you're selling the fact that he's a productive receiver consistency bro right like look at Judy they compared the stats with Slayton and Judy and look at what Judy got but compare the skill sets compare the skill sets you gotta compare the skill sets cadarius Tony has a a more attractive skill set than Slayton so does Jerry Judy I know Jerry Judy hasn't produced the way he supposed to but certain players have certain skill sets that you're attracted to he doesn't have the route running of cadarius Tony or Jerry Judy doesn't have the twitchiness of those guys and that's kind of is either slayton's gonna be your number two or nothing you see what I'm saying likeus Tony Jerry Judy you can throw them in a slot you can throw them in you can't get a third for Darius Slay no who's gonna give you a third for him go through the teams go who's gonna give you a third I give Patriots Patriots I give you no Patriots hell no hell no Patriots if Patriots don't get auk whatever's going on with that they are desperate for a receiver they have a guy over there named Javon Baker that's better than anything could there I mean uh SL let me ask you a question Pat why are we trading Slayton what is wrong with having what is this much receiving talent for the first time in a I understand that Miz but this is based on if Slayton wants to leave we never said they GNA get rid of him because he's trash yeah we're saying because Slayton is a good receiver and I don't think he's going to accept splitting time with Hyatt and he's only getting 10 to 15 snaps a game maybe you see what I'm saying cont season yeah in a contract season going back to the way that he was getting snaps when he first came when uh Deo first came to us where he had people like freaking the preseason Hulk Hogan playing over and Kenny I don't think he would want to go through that and he's a better receiver than that you see what I'm saying let me ask a question will Slayton will Slayton be selfish enough that he's gonna [ __ ] and make a problem about no no no no don't don't do that not gonna do it you're not you're not gonna do it because the man took a pay cut let him finish go ahead no I wasn't gonna say that nyg I was gonna say or will Slayton be a team Guy They'll be obviously good packages for him to be on the field and the Giant and the Giants win more games BR the Giants win more games you want to be a team play or I don't know but you also have to think about y injuries is a part of game too like teams they go injuries with wide receivers they get desperate you know what I'm saying at sometimes they rather get some guy from a you know then gets him out the practice squad but you can't get mad at that dude if he wants to trade and talk about he's not being a look man that dude took two pay cuts to stay with the Giants and rad the bench to let guys as Pat just mentioned uh Marcus David SS and all these other guys get playing time over him you know what I'm saying yeah I don't see him doing that again the the the guy is not doing anything wrong and he's not trash it's just a bad situation for so you can't get mad at him for for out and you can't get mad at the Giants if they want to make a move and and give the position to hire it because he has the upside yeah but it's not selfish on slayton's part bro he already he already took a lot of he already did a lot for this team bro the thing the thing you two guys are getting to disconnect that is Miz is not saying that it's that he's being selfish that's not what he's saying he's saying hey look is he GNA be the guy that says hey look I've done my time here with the New York Giants obviously is not g to work out so I would request the trade to go get more playing time because I do want to get a good contract and what Miz is saying on the other hand is he can do that or he could be the Good Samaritan again and just come in in those packages that they have for him and try to make plays that's what Miz is saying he's not saying either or he's just asking the question yeah he could be the Good Samaritan but what's that going to do for his career these guys are playing for they're playing for a reason bro like and he already did the he already did the Good Samaritan [ __ ] and look where it's got him that's e said that's nobody fault but his it is his fault so why keep doing the same [ __ ] and it ain't working why keep why take another hit for the Giants and say I'm just going to beat a good samaritan shut the [ __ ] up and and ride the bench and then go out there and and sign for the vet minimum next year when you can go on the Falcons and get [ __ ] 1500 yards or some [ __ ] like that like bro you have to think at it from the players's pos position at some point at some point you got to look at it from The Players Point of View and so that's why Miz asks the question which one is he gonna do because I don't have a problem with him doing either I to be honest I want him to actually leave go get what he deserves to be honest with you no I'm being dead for him because he deserves it bro he's not trash he's just not a number one receiver and he's on the he's been on the team where he's had to be the number one receiver and people see that he's not the number a number one receiver but he has been productive and I think he could be a hell of a number two receiver on somebody's team so like K say k Saint said earlier let's pitch him to the Saints and see if we can get marshan Latimore in return or what about the Rams I mean the Rams always giving away draft picks I mean I'm talking about bringing a player that we can use we can get a number two Corner yeah if we can get a number two Corner give him for Latimore I know Latimore has his issues sometimes but he's better than what flat is I tell you that now what about the C from Denver you gonna have to give him more to get Patrick he said I said this months ago was RI the shreds with talk about t Trad and S that's before they that's before we drafted Malik neighbors was all we had Bronx that's the bronx's finest right there Alex in the house too he says Pat our rugby team here is exactly the opposite average players but we've got Elite coaches and run their schemes like a wello machine players with right attitude and extreme discipline to follow the books that is very true and that has been Slayton you can't say that hasn't been slayt Slayton has been all Giants his whole career and maybe it's it's time for him um I just I push back on the people saying he's trash and and [ __ ] like that like you Cass can go out there and defend Daniel Jones and and defend defend this hold on hold on yeah cuz cuz when people say [ __ ] about slay in there they're directly coming at me I know they are because I'm the I'm godamn near the only one that's ever defended this [ __ ] dude and and to be honest with you you know what I'm saying I I I don't feel bad about doing it man because look man everybody everybody wants everybody everybody wants the Giants players to be loyal and to and to take one for the team and to do this and to do that and this dude has done that time after time after time again and you know what this fan base has done [ __ ] [ __ ] on his ass pause so again I I don't I mean this is what we're talking about here he's not the worst receiver he was putting up the same situation as Daniel Jones the same situation as saquan Barkley the same situation as Dexter Lawrence and some of these other players on his team and and they did the best they could [ __ ] do you know but it's okay defend those guys when when you say something about slay oh he's just a [ __ ] piece of garbage like get out of here man he said we should we should have taking adun nah neighbors neighbors he wants bro he wants you guys to answer that I totally ignored that [ __ ] like he never even put that in the chat who said that who said that's what he wants he wants you guys to give him attention that's what that is anybody who says that is either on drugs or just want attention well just coming off drugs yeah just coming off yeah you're right that's [ __ ] read this and then we gonna get to the defense and close it out he says Pat Giants got great players because when we get animated and passionate that [ __ ] is is is made for TV moments you know what I'm saying like come on here and troll because not only can we shut down your argument intellectually and articulately but we can also Bast the [ __ ] out of you verbally while making it sound so good and looking so [ __ ] pretty on camera while doing it so that's why people like to come on and try to troll us you know what I mean but we not g to give yall that tonight we're gonna keep it positive you know what I'm saying and keep it rolling yeah Joey what's going on Joey thank you for tuning in um let's get to the defense well I gota bring up the scen first o defense baby defense defense come on let's do it I'm ready all right we're looking like a a four lineman base defense this year and looks like Brian Burns is gonna be at one Edge we already know backed up by quarterback hitting defensive players play with me backed up by Boogie Bastion and the rookie undrafted rookie o ogu uh nose tackle Dexter Lawrence with Jordan Riley right behind him DJ Davidson and Timmy horn the regular defensive tackle rakee Nunes roaches I think that's gonna change in a couple of games Ryder Anderson uh Jordan Phillips Chapman and Casey Rogers uh the outside linebacker position which is the other Edge is Kayon tibo backed up by zizo gelari Taman Fox and Benton uh Whitley uh inside linebackers are Bobby O and Michael mcfaden backed up by Carter coughin and deont Johnson then you got the rookie from UCLA moile Darius mile Matthew Adams and Daren beavers is last that's not a good sign for beavers uh the nickel Corner this is where it surprised me they got Drew Phillips as the nickel Corner that's not the surprise I knew he was going to do that but they got Isaiah Simmons as the backup nickel corner so when we going to Dime he's goingon to be the nickel nick McLoud then Trey hearnen all right first Corner Deontay Banks backed up by Trey Hawkins and David long Jr second Corner Cordell flop backed up by Dar Hol I'm pissed off and Brion borders and safeties are Dane Belton and Jason penck the Stardust backed up by Tyler nman Elijah Riley javarius ens Owens Caleb Hayes and Alex Johnson where the hell is the dude we signed from the Eagles Mills where is he is he hurt yeah he's he's he's already hurt right now he's he's on yeah Mills is hurt he's on the P already huh my surprise is that damn Isaiah Simmons he must have carved his role as a nickel corner and believe it or not I think sometimes they will put him in over Drew Phillips and slide Drew pH Phillips to the outside to replace Cordell flat that's what I think they're going to do and Nick McLoud as a nickel I believe he should be the cornerback too right what I think this death chart was made uh about a week ago maybe but that's crazy go uh who we got coach go ahead and uh what the [ __ ] is going on darn a [ __ ] home bro that's why cell flat can't get on the field his Darnell holes and like you said Pat Nick McLoud Excuse excuse me why is Nick McCloud as a nickel Corner when all I've heard is he's doing very well as a cornerback but he's third string nickel right and you have dar homes who's better suited for the nickel playing boundary cornerback I would the only thing I will say about darn Holmes at cornerback is if you're playing zone I'm gonna back off I will back off there but he's better in the nickel also especially in run support he's very good in the zone concept I there's no denying that but the number two quarterback because what that's telling me if Cordell flat is out guess who's who's number one fellas fellas this is not who we are GNA roll into week one we know that we know that Lou we know that this is the the projected this people from every practice squad you can find this whole depth chart hey but you but you you but you know what Lou you're wasting reps on these dudes you're wasting [ __ ] reps on these dud get these guys right now on on the outside well I'll tell you this holes hasn't played outside is actually been McLoud and C a flop plan out but that's but that's what's so confusing Pat yeah that is confusing they're not wasting reps like nyg said because they're actually getting the Reps where you think they will be but go ahead then then then this like you said this maybe was the why releas this why releas this why releas this then what we're saying it's garbage [ __ ] the game up and make content videos like this happen yeah I mean it's just weird the way they did it because they don't even have Isaiah Simmons as a linebacker they got him as a DB right well the N don't forget the nickel technically is like a will linebacker so I get it I'm that's why that's not that big of an issue for me he he technically he's if you put him out there in the three linebacker set you know that that's what you're G to do or I'm sorry coach let me let me do this and calm people down because this should have happened a long time ago too darn holes you know where you need to go look like we got another one under the go [Applause] [Music] this is the gulag in here you fight to win back your life G so let's get that out the way now because I just seen that really triggered a lot of people yeah holes for me y'all know y'all know how I feel about holes put him in the slot play zone with him give them safety help over the top or somebody underneath do certain things but put them on the boundary cuz y'all know um um e will even tell you good offenses whether you play in zone or not they'll they'll they'll they they'll solo him on the island whether you're in zone they will put him they will get him out there one onone and they will take the safety away from him to get with giving him support and he's gonna be by himself you and how is that done all the time coach you send the over 6'2 wide receiver and put him in the slot and allow child abuse basically basically so so for me having him inside would have been better because you can a little bit more on that outside he's gonna be alone he's going to be alone and you know what that's like oh I'm not gonna say that I'm let me be nice let me not say something dirty but um that's going to be like taking somebody out to the Woodshed and Tanning little bottoms okay no it's not going to be good and that's whether you're in zone or man you could still abuse him that way so but that's that that right there was my biggest surprise with um McLoud and and Holmes right um Ryder Anderson and Jordan Phillips you know well Jordan Phillips I mean they brought him here for a reason and he's third on the depth chart so I'm just like he's not having a good camp and then I keep hearing Chapman is getting first team reps so that's like that's pushing him further down so you know they're they're looking to use him and use his skill set so you know all the rest of them Boogie bash him you know you know yeah so you know the rest of them you know all right you and I'll say one last thing and then I'm done okay but our our our our first line we definitely got to rock hard with our first line because um some of the some of the backups a drop off team yeah the depth on this team is always going to be a problem till we get about two or three more good drafts that's just that's just gonna be a fact but go ahead nyg I already put holes in the goog so you ain't gota be triggered by him sir man [Laughter] bro don't you dare put Dar Holmes on the boundary on the outside to get barbecued like the Fourth of July hot outside you know what I'm [Music] saying Fourth of July somebody didn't left it somebody didn't left the grill running thank you thank you got drunk and burnt the [ __ ] chicken that's darn Holmes yeah darn that's that's him on the outside n lives we don't we we we don't need that in our lives fellas crunch fact that's his nickname Chick-fil-A chickfila that's burnt to the damn bone man that's burnt to the Bone that's Char grilled Crispy Cream that's that's that's that's campfire of chicken schores right so you don't want on the roster that's basically what he saying right two years ago Don Holmes was a good slot corner I don't know what happened last year to be honest yeah they got him on the outside according to the depth chart not too talking it's three years ago Miz two years he played two years he played under under uh Wing system and he was getting totally abused he was getting he was bent over the rails and really okay so why why let me ask you this coach that dude ain't it when he when he I'm not I'm not saying either or I understand last year he was making me upset too but here's the thing when he was drafted right he was considered the steel of the draft remember was saying that was raving about him too then he come out his rookie year he played some damn good football I remember that game in Seattle that we stole so I don't know what happened W system yeah on a lot of men he's not a man cornerback well him they were killing him with crossers and he was always in the trail and it's not even it's not that he was in a trail technique there was great separation it was at least three to four yards of Separation in a Crosser I mean no there's no my my old cranky broke down butt with my Walker could give better coverage than him bad he is so I I have concerns with him in Men in zone I have no issues in zone I really don't if he's in the slot and he's good in run support he really is he's a good t you know so that part I'm giving him credit for but on the outside he will be he will be targeted Trust and Believe oh lunch me believe you send two you send two verts just on the simplest high school route two verts run two verts a seam and an outside goal with him that means he he's one-onone with with outside receiver he's done well you don't put him on the I never thought he belonged on the outside anyway that's what're that's what on the outside has him on the outside well he gives up a lot of first downs on on P I believe that that's just a placeholder position for a few of these guys in the de I believe they're gonna go and sign a guy and they're gonna go and get some uh guys that don't make it on other teams and not because they didn't make it because of skill but because they already have a lot of depth on team get cut and the Giants would go and pluck from those guys and adory or something like that because I think Shane Bowen likes to run a zone so what's what's the quarterback we P today from Washington me personally I put Nick moud as a St and no choice man you have a choice she's not got it picked up is not good co yeah I know that that's my point a lot of guys we're going to get it's going to be in that range what I'm saying is a lot of them are going to be in their R in that range they're cut for a reason now some are going to be a numbers game I get that I get that sign a guy as well I'm they saying they might go get a Dory or something like that but I don't want a Dory back Dory back adori will kill it ador's GNA be back yeah more chance of dory's back as a giant it's crazy um n why I didn't want him in Wink's system but in this one right here I'm all the way for it y I'm all the way for it he I don't I don't like when somebody quits I seen that dude quit too many times in multiple Seasons I don't I don't want to also giv us some he's also given some big time gam chance okay bro he quit Drew said zero chance yeah I think so too Drew I'm with you on that one he's not coming back here that man bro say if they wanted they would have been got him yeah bro you can't just no but if you get him for cheaper you can't we talking about building a culture here fellas you can't show that type of [ __ ] quit ass attitude Dogg it I'm I'm done type [ __ ] and then and then you know um bring a guy like that back you know when you got young players in this locker room you know what I'm saying because if a Dory acts like that the moment the moment we're getting blown out in the game and he dogs it on a on a play or two and those young guys see that like bro it's not good bro I know one thing I don't like I don't like what I seen from a Dory last year it I was done with that dude well it don't got to be a Dory but they could they could go potentially sign somebody yeah I'm with signing the vet Corner absolutely I I don't want a Dory Jackson back here who's remaining gentlemen out there is not done I'm telling you remaining out there yeah who's remaining out there Gilmore who does not any part of being with us um you got uh Xavier Howard but he's having some legal issues right now that's the only reason why C hasn't been picked up yet and there really just a bunch of other guys like is RO out there no I don't think he is no um if you really want a guy you're gonna have to make a trade that's what I say I like the guy let's go trade for Latimore yeah I think Latimore could be had for third fourth round pick or just straight up slating for Latimore to be honest with you you could throw Boogie Basham in there too if you want Boogie bash and that ain't gonna make the trade I keep trying to tell y'all I think trade rejected you have you have the whole trade done yeah would y take Boogie bash him click hello hello hello why why we say why we say that about him maybe I'm missing something maybe I didn't see have you seen Boogie bash him out there no Boogie and no bash right that's why we bashing him PA name his name is trash yeah you know he reminds me of fellas what was the dude that we got from um the Dallas Cowboys that [ __ ] Michael mcfaden life up the first year Smith Oh Jaylen Smith oh my God God Boogie Basham is the jayen Smith of DTS and jayen Smith we don't know what the hell he was he was out there throwing people's elbows on people just flopping in the crowd jumping on like what are you doing sir first of all he was tackling his own friends okay don't don't like you you don't do yeah I haven't been noticing what he's doing so we did a whole breakdown Pat on jayen Jason Smith remember Jaylen Smith yeah facts trash this dude is terrible he know he knows he's trash I don't even know what are you doing right like every time Boogie bash him get in there the quarterback has at least six seconds yeah he can't get in there bro I don't know what it is pause like he just don't have the mov brother that's don't have the Boogie got the moves don't have the Boogie he a got the moves what's going on Jayla he don't even have a gangster Boog what's up y y can hear me good yeah what's good with you Jay no man I just got done doing the set downtown Houston at the secret group I told y I was gonna pop in on y'all when I got done with my stuff you know what I'm saying when we talked last time what y'all got going on tonight what we what's the what's on the uh what's on the menu I got the best joke you could have uh said tonight what's that Boogie Basham everybody would have Li so what happened with Boogie he was getting used and abused man he don't even need to touch the field bro that's what we saying he need to Chas change his last name yeah I think he brings down team morale just being there no bash he'll be he Boogie he'll be a boogie bash in one place send his ass to the prison he I bet you'll run then yes G bash that ass boy right PA get out of there no it ain't no damn pause you know me better than that stop it l smack that ass up I'm not joining in on that PA right it went good man I tried out uh you know this has been my first time back on in a couple months you know I've been working but it went well you know what I'm saying I got through my five minutes I didn't stumble over nothing I even tried out a couple new little jokes so you know it went well it went well okay let's go another day on the grindstone y the more you practice the better you get yeah I'm just I'm just happy to get back to it you know because like I was telling uh Lou and uh NY and Pat the other night you know i' been through you know a whole bunch of losses this year and uh I didn't I was hard for me to really kind of find the funny in anything so just for me getting out here and you know and getting back to it you know my my family's been talking to me telling me my wife been telling me I need to get back on stage so I you know stopped feeling sorry for myself and went and got back on stage tonight so if you feel if you feeling sad and depressed and feeling like you can't do that [ __ ] and oh why is this bad stuff happened to me It's Gonna Keep On happening to you but you just you know build and get stronger from that and keep on pursuing and pushing through whatever you want to do that's right Jay tell them bro yeah but hey I'm about to I'm literally in the parking lot of the of the comedy club so I'm about to uh head back to the house if y'all still on when I get back to the crib I'll pop on you know shoot the [ __ ] with y'all again but uh say what's up big blue crew Giants y'all see we've been fighting you see we was whooping some lying ass we was those Rudy poo cowly Lions getting ass handed them up put them up put them put him down all right man glad you had a good Set uh tonight though jayl but uh we're probably off by the time you get to the crib but man uh I gotta come out there and see you live one time bro make a trip out there in downtown Houston man I'm at I'm at on 24th to Post Street at the secret group I'm at Axel rad most City grills in Missouri Texas Missouri City that's south side of Houston I'm all over the place man just catch me on you know Monday through Thursday I ain't big enough for the weekend headliner so you know what I'm saying got cat cat on Monday Thursday and I got I'm working my way up all right bro all right I'll holler at y'all man all right Jay good see you bro but uh yeah gotta go catch Jay one of his sets man I know that [ __ ] funny as hell man that's a funny ass dude pause anybody got anything else to say about this death chart because this death chart is wild this is like a this is literally like a 90 man death chart but I hopefully this is not the official death charge is just something that they had to put out before the first pre season game you know what I'm saying so they was like just write some names in there and we we'll get the death chart fixed before the regular season I think that's what this was you know the main thing I noticed about the depth chart is the depth we actually have a little bit of it know what I'm saying way more than we usually have I tell you that so I mean you know um the fact that we're talking about certain players might get cut or might not make it or then that's a good thing that's a good thing to be talking about trading uh who was your number one wide receiver the past you know three or four years right and and now he's your number four that's a good thing y'all it's not a bad thing you know what I'm saying it's it's not a bad thing to be having conversations about who's going to be playing next to decks to have all these different options and all these different players that could possibly step up and take that position you know what I'm saying like this is a good it's a good problem to have at running back when you have Tracy you have uh turbo Miller you know um in competition you know the fact that we got some Edge presence now you know so the dep is really what I took at around this depth chart is the fact that we actually have a little bit of depth now it ain't crazy we can get more obviously still scar you know what I'm saying but it's it's a lot better than what we've had in the past you know what I'm saying especially at um particular positions as I mentioned but yeah hey uh 40 luck we will be at MetLife November 3D for the uh commander game if you want uh link up with us then pause but yeah I mean but anybody else got any last words um I think I put everybody I need to put in the goog tonight hold on you put darn in the goog yeah you already put yeah I got Dar I got Boogie Bash from trash ass y'all put Cel flight there y'allselves y'all some mean sons of gun oh yeah but oh go check out Miz in the midday he had a damn good video I keep trying to tell this crazy sucker that keep making those Miz in the middays bro like those videos are dope as [ __ ] like check out that Miz in the midday that he made today man it's a lot of good stuff in that video and it's absolutely hilarious um other than that I check it out Miss I checked it out put the guy in the the guy that Jones sucker slapped put him in the find him in that whole bunch but overall I today was a pretty good day to be a Giants fan our joint practice went way better than everybody on Twitter and the media were expecting it to be they thought we was gonna be some Chums hey Daniel Jones and Malik neighbors can only connect against themselves but looks like Malik neighbors is the truth he's burning your your DBS too not just his um it it it it's a lot of things to be excited about this Giants team and even if you a Negative Nancy even some some of the Negative Nancy people are coming out be like man you know D Jones might be a dog no don't say that now yes like you said Miz the the the the the bus already left bro yeah the bus is already gone maybe Dan Jones did need a number one receiver no [ __ ] Sherlock fre TR be told they are giant fans so I'm I'm gonna I'll get a second bus to come back around if leave them suckers right where they at they done they on the curb they Giants win the Super Bowl they need to be right there on that grass where uh uh man cave is sitting at right behind his be be right there on that grass and watch the fireworks from metti outside they be doing right tomorrow the Giants and Lions do it again right yep now I I'll be a little bit worried because I think the LI tomorrow gonna come out and say oh yeah you know you know Dan Campbell laid it laid the wood to those boys in that locker room pause but you know Dan Campbell ain't about that Dan Campbell was one of us old said a lot of good things today about the organization and d and Mara and all that [ __ ] so he's a good guy but but I think the lions come out tomorrow because they got a little humiliated today they got punch in the face so and I just want to get out of there healthy that's the only cross my get out of there healthy that's all I care about too how yall feel how y'all feel about the preseason game they got two of them on Thursday and then they playing the Patriots game on on uh what's that uh NFL no they play Thursday it's the same time as ours seven o'clock both games y'all thinking y'all thinking the Stars play you see I said I brought that up today nyg I would rather Jones don't play this Thursday but listen yeah they're not gonna play so what what game is the dress rehearsal the second or the third game they're gonna probably do the dress rehearsal the second game oh yeah which game is the Jets game third one the last one yeah they're not they got and they got a joint scrimmage practice with them that same week also yeah I was going to say they're not going to they're not going to do anything the Jets yeah they may play the first two series and get them the hell out of there um but this first game this is really going to determine some people that goingon to get cut now I do believe the defense as far as Cordell fllying those boys they're gonna make them play cornerback too he ain't got no choice but play anybody in competition anybody in the comp a serious competition got to play they got to play you know what I'm saying but people like Isaiah Simmons and them who have fit rolls already they're not going to play but I'm putting Cordell flat out there immediately him and Nick McLoud on both sides and let's see who come out better during the game oh Nick McLoud you made more plays flly get to the bench sir you ain't hear Banks name today did you no you didn't that's a good thing he was out there making plays that's exactly that's what I'm talking about got [ __ ] up who oh R oh yeah R got destroyed on one rep pass by Pascal yeah Pascal is nice though that dude is nice and Ryan got destroyed on that R I said good Lord that REM to be last season on that one do that one no more Brian Burns owned every this looks like Hernandez in my opinion that's how bad right there I don't know if he tripped or something I don't know what happened on that R but he got destroyed now he he got hit with the the left arm to to the right shoulder and pulled and ripped through with a with a swim move off of it yeah he hit him with a nice hesy but other than that we had a pretty good pretty good day I mean it was a one-on-one so you don't have no help on either side so hopefully he doesn't give up pressure that quick but I do think the starting offensive line plays and they'll throw Drew lot in there uh let them play let them play with the offensive line for probably one series and then I want to see Neighbors get at least one series to be honest with I don't think neighbors I know I get it but I'm saying I want to see him out there just so he can get a little just his first taste um of the speed of the game out there just one series that's why I say one series we'll see start I do I think I think I mean if Jones is gonna play yeah if Jones is gonna play yeah but if Jones isn't gonna play yeah then then he's not gonna put neighbors out there or Hy or W Robinson yeah I better not see Drew Malik neighbors no goddamn passes oh man Twitter crazy you see he completed a pass to my league neighbors you see [ __ ] dummy yeah no we we don't want to see that it could be a three yard curl you see way better than Daniel Jones he completely wide receiver screen for 60 yards look at that look at the stats 60 yards you see that's who I'm going to watch in this in this preseason though to be really honest I like I'm enjoying these this little running back mix and I want to see them play y I like to see I want to see turbo Miller play that's for sure I want to see what turbo Miller and Tyrone Tracy actually have and see how we can use them dude yeah but I think turbo Miller is gonna turn some heads bro yeah but we going to wrap this up I want to plan on being on here two and a half hours y'all get me every time um like to thank you guys for watching uh hit that like And subscribe button for all these great content creators here with the big blue crew you got coach Ed glad Amazing World of Sports unpopular opinion Sports ny22 Big Lou G nation Inside Sports co-founder of the big blue crew with Joel classi 3F with Joel prayers to him hopefully he gets better by the season so we can call some games because he is funny as hell when we call the game you got I am chosen e chosen go subscribe to him in the uh Shakedown media always got love for those guys over there you got the S guy man cave new member of the big blue crew doing his content go check his channel out has a lot of basketball content I'm sorry ass Nets but I think you're a Nick fan so you I'm Nick fan I'm Nicks yeah and I you said it right them sorry ass said it right don't do that said it right don't do that he trying to he trying to bait you K do it trying to bait you bro don't let him do it he hurting because he hurting because they hurting hurt people like to hurt people whatever Y and you got Miz who does Miz in the midday when he wants to but if he does it more often he will get a lot more views and he will be at a th subscribers very quick as those videos are very entertaining anytime he feels that he got to get his passion out pause you should do a video keep trying to tell him but maybe he'll listen to me one day guess he considers me a young buck you don't know what you're talking about but I do but yo as God send me some comment or something I'm not sure I'm 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