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[Music] he he [Music] he [Music] he [Music] ch [Music] [Music] he oh [Music] the majority Report with Sam Ceda the destiny of America [Music] is this is a special majority report broadcast the first and perhaps last presidential debate between or last presidential debate ever or last if it goes a certain kind of way I mean who knows um kamla Harris and Donald Trump the Thriller in [Music] Philadelphia okay here we go sucks so much what the Thriller and Philadelphia Thriller and philadelph [Laughter] all right I liked it um folks um Sam Cedar Emma vigland Pizza Matt M uh all right we have a problem we should just tell you right up front uh in the studio we have been infested with fruit flies for whatever reason we don't we haven't been able to establish it uh probably all the apples hey uh dude uh we're don't tell D you plan this at all we're doing this at uh um majority report live youtube.com report live you actually okay so I just want people to understand that yeah nobody's gonna hear you that um for the the folks who are watching us on our uh burner Channel um we're a little bit nervous uh it's the Live Events channel it's the Live Events Channel and uh the Youtube the um ABC people are are you know Disney is um they're so woke that they're um you know trying to keep um enclose elections yeah uh they're trying to um keep uh people from streaming this apparently just saving it for the all the different cable news networks and uh so we're uh we're we're at our burner account but of course at any time you can always go to majority. FM you can watch it there we will be back on our main Channel at 11: p.m. there's a swarm of flies in here I don't know annoying I don't know what's going on um but uh nevertheless um uh so let's just uh go with this um where uh what do you think we should be looking for tonight Emma we have about seven minutes um yeah so I guess I think Trump is going to be acutely aware that the entire right-wing media media ecosystem has been imploring him not to go personal and by personal they mean don't be racist don't be sexist towards her stupid that kind of thing H I don't know I mean a lot I I was just feeling a little bit racist sexist person on the why would you even need to tell me that I was feeling a little pessimistic about it because it was like okay even he can understand like this isn't the way to go he was more restrained in the debate with Biden but I thought about it a little bit more and he just is so triggered so easily by her I think she's going to be able to do it but she's going to have to have a counter attack ready if he doesn't bite at the original stuff that she tries to get to Goat him into and then the other thing to look out for I think is one like what does she say anything differently in terms of Gaza policy um does she I already answered that yeah I don't think she will but I think maybe she will try to differentiate herself from Trump at least in that regard because in Michigan that may be important today she's going to say uh you said this on the program today she's going to call him out for using uh pal is a slur right um I I think like you know from a a perspective of a progressive we're not going to hear a ton of stuff that we're going to like um maybe stuff on the economy I think might be good because she's gonna have to she has to go out a little bit more on a limb on that in that regard Obama versus Romney would be a nice model for her to follow like out of touch rich guy yeah I think there's going to be some of that well and then also the idea like you don't have to don't take my word for it look at his record he did give taxes to the wealthy he did say that he was going to build the border wall and then he lied about it just look at his record she doesn't need to be fast she doesn't need to be past facing or like you know basically like moralizing about the way he acts she can gesture towards it with small statements and then pivot to defining herself that's what I think is the best way to go I think the um and and you know there's two things and I had mentioned this in the preview uh that just done on on the channel but um the first is in terms of like how this debate goes broadly speaking my understanding is that the deal that ABC and the two candidates cut said that ABC can make the unilateral decision to unmute the mics the plan is to mute the mics while one person is talking that it was the way that the Biden thing did in this one my understanding is that ABC in the rules can inally decide there's too much cross talk we're not hearing what they're saying we're going to turn the mics on I am convinced that if they're going to do that they will only do it if they announce at the top of the thing and maybe we should go to ABC why don't we turn ABC on so that we see the very beginning of it um and then we can switch around but we could keep it at ABC too but if they say that at the beginning just keep your eyes on that because if they say at the beginning I think they're going to do it if they don't say it they're not going to do it um it stinks that Biden needed these like rules that coddled him so badly that they got to copy and paste it yeah I think that's I think that's that's a big part of it and now here's the other thing um just saw the a I just saw a um uh a poll on CNN that showed of undecided almost 50% of them need to hear more about who Kam kamla Harris is um only 18% don't know who Trump is so you have there you know we use the metaphor jump ball for you know what uh Harris's policy will be it's also her jump ball to get in terms of convincing these voters now my guess is and I don't have any data on this uh my my guess is is that those people who are undecided are not interested in um substantive policy differentials they are interested in demeanor and whether she is a um a scary screechy woman uh or a hysterical one or a hysterical one or however you want to characterize she can't take the bait right right and whether she's going to be angry you know all of these sort of like uh tropes is she a socialist is she crazy uh comma um you know cackling comma whatever it is comrad comma all of that we shall see so the debate's going to start in uh my guess is about one minute and 14 seconds based upon the countown clock on the ABC pop them up tonight actually go there he's STI to the issues look this is the largest audience they're likely going to have in this race it will be interesting to see if haris can make clear the Stark Choice before voters and where does she decide to land her punches she can punch hard they lose S no you just lost sound because see a handshake when the two of them you can hear it now he didn't back in 2016 when I did that debate we Jonathan Carl is not the anchor who is the anchor it's David M and lindsy Davis have doubts that we're going to see that David the most handsome of all the anchors that is very true but I don't necessarily know like I would have preferred maybe some L anchor I'd be curious if what d great achiev anybody know suit like Disney I don't know what to tell on our live blog can we put on the captions yeah let's put on the captions for that feed as soon as y we just did it there we go oh I just cut away from Jonathan Carly sort of tonight the high stake Showdown here in Philadelphia between vice president Harris and former president Donald Trump their first face to face meeting in this presidential election first face to face meeting a historic race for president rules President Biden withdrawing after his last debate don't forget guys make sure through your nose Trum do red Power tie and Su including right here in psylvia think we know what Trump going work it's like betting on the Gatorade that's going to come out super right off this is an ABC News special the most consequential moment this together we will we've all been trained at the same place to talk our we will soon be a great nation again face to face historic the ABC News presidential debate here we go here now David mure and lindsy Davis all right let's see what they say good evening I'm David mure and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News President we want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight vice president KLA Harris and president Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for little and I'm lindsy Davis tonight's meeting could be the most consequential event of their campaigns with election day now less than two months away for vice president kamla Harris this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st of course that decision followed debate against President Donald Trump since then this race has taken on an entirely new Dynamic and that brings us to the rules of tonight's debate 90 minutes with two commercial breaks no topics or questions have been shared with the campaigns the candidates will have two minutes to answer questions and this is the clock that's what they'll be seeing two minutes for rebuttal and one minute for follow-ups clarifications or responses their microphones will only be turned on when it's their turn to speak no pre-written notes allowed there is no audience here tonight in this Hall at the national Constitution Center this is an intimate for two candidates who have never met president Trump won the coin toss he chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening vice president Harris elected the they'll turn on the M let's now welcome the candidate president Harris and president Donald Trump they'll pick up on each other look how close they are this is so weird when there's noint debate then Harris have a good debate have fun thank you oh she introduced herself fful to have you to have you both here good evening we are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate so let's get started I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country vice president Harris you and president Trump were elected four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters are you better off than you were four years ago when it comes to the economy do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle- class kid and I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middleclass and working people of America I believe in the Ambitions the aspirations the dreams of the American people and that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy because here's the thing we know that we have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people good we know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000 which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib buy a car seat buy clothes for their children my passion one of them is small businesses I was actually my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us we called call her our second mother she was a small business owner I love our small businesses my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small businesses knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy my opponent on the other hand his plan is to do what he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in5 trillion to America's deficit my opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax which would be a 20% tax on everyday Goods that you rely on to get through the month economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more the question was are you better off than you were years ago she does not look backward she wants to be the change agent she immediately goes forward mdle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires president Trump I'll give you two minutes first of all have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that we're doing tariffs on other countries other countries are going to finally after 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and the Tariff will be substantial in some cases I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the Tariff off because it was so much money they can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do they're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation uh look we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country Buster it breaks up countries we have inflation like very few people have ever seen before probably the worst in our nation's history we were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50 60 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago this has been a disaster for people for the middle class but for every class on top of that we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African and Hispanics and also unions unions are going to be affected very soon and you see what's happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio look at Aurora in Colorado they are taking over the towns it's taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get about 30 seconds with I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country I'll do it again and even better we are going to get imur during this debate but I would like to let vice president Harris respond on the economy here well would let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess what we have done and what I intend is build what we are the aspirations and the hopes of theeran people but I'm going to tell youall in this debate tonight you're going to hear from the same old tired Playbook a bunch of Lies grievances C what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together know we have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans president Trump I'll give you a minute here to respond number one I have nothing to do as you know and as she knows better than anyone I have nothing to do with project 2025 that's out there I haven't read it I don't want to read it purposely I'm not going to read it this was a group of people that got together they came up with some ideas I guess some good some bad it makes no difference I have nothing to do every everybody knows I'm an open book everybody knows what I'm going to do cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before we had the greatest economy we got hit with a pandemic and the pandemic was not since 197 where 100 million people died has they been anything like it we did a phenomenal job with the pandemic we handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in nobody's ever seen anything like it we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got masks we did things that nobody thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give me credit for a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only jobs they got were bounceback jobs these were jobs bounc back and it bounced back and it went to their benefit but I was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else vice president Harris I'll let you respond so Donald Trump has no plan for you and when you look at his economic plan it's all about tax breaks for the richest people I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy and the best economists in our country if not the world have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America what Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would the def 16 Nobel laurates have described his economic plan as something increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you and I beat Medicare oh look I went to the Wharton School of finance and many of those professors the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a great plan it's a plan that's going to bring up our our worth our value as a country it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and uh create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our for our country just to finish off the got she doesn't have a plan she copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like Run Spot Run four sentences that are just oh we'll try and lower taxes she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan Mr President I do want to drill down on something you both brought up uh the vice president brought up your tariffs you responded and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax your proposal calls for tariffs as you pointed out here on Foreign imports across the board you recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on Goods coming into this country as you know many economists say that with tariffs at that level costs are then passed on to the consumer vice president Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas food clothing medication arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs they're not going to have higher prices what's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years I charged I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their Administration we are going to take in billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars I had no inflation virtually no inflation they had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs bacon the people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done they've destroyed the economy all you have to do is look at a poll the poll say 80 and 85 and even 90% that the Trump economy was great that their economy was terrible vice president Harris I do want to ask for your response and you heard what the president said there because the body Administration didn't keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place so how do you respond well let's be clear that the Trump Administration resulted in a trade deficit one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America he invited trade Wars you want to talk about his deal with China what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military basically sold us out when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the comp competition for the 21st century which means focusing on the details of what that requires focusing on relationships with our allies focusing on investing in american-based technology so that we win the race on AI on Quantum Computing focusing on what we need to do to support America's Workforce so that we don't end up having the on the short end of the stick in terms of workers rights but what Donald Trump did let's talk about this with Co is he actually thank president XI for what he did during Co look at his tweet thank you president XI exclamation point this when we know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of covid President Trump I'll let you respond first of all they bought their chips from Taiwan we hardly make chips anymore because of uh philosophies like they have and policies like they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed 3 years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy but she ever got elected she' change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics marxists are not saying that about China when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger York higher than the 15 it's 21 doing to our country they're criminals many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too you know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later bad immigration is the worst thing that can economy they have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country president Trump thank you Lindsay I want to turn to the issue of abortion president Trump you've often touted that you were able to kill roie Wade last year you said that you were proud to be the most guarantee you on Twitter right now the conservatives are saying in the great for women and doing a state of Florida you surprised many abortion B because you initially had said that it was too short and you said quote vo need more than 6 weeks but then the very next day you reverse course and said you would vote to support the six-week ban vice president Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of of abortion because you've changed your position so many times therefore why should they trust you well the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is as you know the V is they have abortion in the ninth month they even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia the previous governor of West Virginia not the current governor is doing an excellent job the governor before he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby in other words we'll execute the baby and that's why I did that because that predominates because they're radical the Democrats are radical in that and her vice presidential pick which I think is a horrible pick by the way for our country cuz he is really out of it but VI presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine he also says execution after birth it's execution no longer abortion because the baby is okay and that's not okay with me I I'm to think again about Tim walt2 years they've been trying to get Ro into the states and through the uh genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme to be ay man of we were able to do that now I believe in the exception rape incest and life of the mother I believe strongly in it Ronald Reagan did also 85% of Republicans do exceptions very important but we were able to get it and now states are voting on it and for the first time you're going to see look this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years every legal scholar every Democrat every Republican liberal conservative they all wanted this isue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote and that's what happened happened now Ohio the vote was somewhat Liberal Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal much more liberal than people would have thought but each individual is voting it's the vote of the people now it's not tied up in the federal government I did a great service in doing it it took courage to do it and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it and I give tremendous credit to those six justices there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born your response to president Trump well as I said you're going to hear a bunch of lies and that's not actually a surprising fact let's understand how we got here Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roie Wade and they did exactly as he intended and now in over 20 states there are Trump abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide Health Care in one state it provides prison for life Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest which understand what that means a survivor of a crime of violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next that is immoral and one does not have to abandon their FA to agree government and Donal certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body I have talked with women around our country you want to talk about this is what people wanted pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage being denied care in an emergency room because the healthc care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot she didn't want that her husband didn't want that a 12 or 13-year-old Survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term they don't want that and I pledge to you when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of roie Wade as president of the United States I will proudly sign it into law but understand if Donald Trump were to be reelected he will sign a National Abortion ban understand in his project 2025 there would be a National Abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies your miscarriages I think the American people believe that certain freedoms in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body should not be made by the government thank you vice president Harris well there she goes again it's a lie I'm not signing a ban and there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what everybody wanted Democrats Republicans and everybody else got what you wanted scholar wanted it to be BR and the states are voting and it may take a little time but for 52 years this issue has torn our country apart it's doing it now they wanted it back in the States and I did something that nobody thought was possible the states are now voting what she says is an absolute lie and as far as the abortion B no I'm not in favor of abortion but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states would you veto a National Abortion ban if it well it won't have to because again not number one she said she'll go back to Congress she'll never get the vote there's impossible for her to get the vote especially now with the 5050 and essentially 5050 in both Senate and the house she's not going to get the vote can't get the vot she won't even come close to it so it's just talk you know what it reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up your Supreme Court Jus probably her boss if you call him a boss he spends all his time on the beach but look her boss went out and said we'll do it again we'll do it a different way and he went out got rejected Again by the Supreme Court all these students people are looking at this what is he talking about people don't know these issu reason to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans they didn't get it for free but they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that that they talk about abortion but if I could just get a yes or no because you're running J JD Vance has said that you would veto if you did come to your desk well I didn't discuss it with JD in all fairness uh JD I never talk I don't mind if he has a certain view but I think he was speaking for me but I really didn't look we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it just like she couldn't get stud I didn't even come close have to disc we don't have to discuss it why we discuss it Ed Lords that support Trump for like pop reason it doesn't matter what she sayel going to Congress so wonderful let's go to Congress do it but the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government and we did something that everybody said couldn't be done and now you have a vote of the people on abortion vice president Harris want to give you your time to respond but I do want to ask would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion I absolutely support reinstating the protections of roie Wade and as you rightly mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and and asking for an abortion that is not happening it's insulting to the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treat treatments what is happening in our country working people working women who are working one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable and the people of America have not the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right about her own body and that is why in every state where this issue has the people of America have voted for Freedom vice president EXC me I have to respond another lie it's another lie I have been a leader on IVF which which is fertilization the IVF oh I have been a leader in fact he's a fer a very negative decision many times I saw the people of Alabama and the legisl two days later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and fertiliz constantly ferti you should ask will she allow abortion in the eth month ninth month seventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask that question why don't you the question you the question you could do abortions in the seventh month the eth month and probably after birth just look Governor former governor of Virginia the governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby president Trump thank you we're going to turn now to immigration and border security we know it's an issue that's important to Republicans Democrats voters across the board uh in this country vice president Harris you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America we know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden Administration this past June President Biden imposed tough new Asylum restrictions we know the numbers since then have dropped significantly but my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this so I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns dral organizations she say say that the United States Congress including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported and that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents On the Border to help those folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentol coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by The Surge of fentol in our country that bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns drugs and human beings but you know what happened to that bill Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and understand this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in Solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand but what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised and I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rally he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you so mad you will not hear him talk about your needs your dreams and your and your desires and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will vice president Harris thank you president Trump on that point I want to get your resp let me just ask why kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers On the Border first let me respond this to the rallies she said people start leaving people don't go to her rallies there's no reason to go and the people that do go she's busing them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about that people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies walk want to take their country back our country is being lost we're a failing nation and it happened 3 and a half years ago and what what's going on here you're going to end up in World War III just to go into another subject what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States a lot of don't want to talk not going to be Aurora or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it in Springfield they're eating the dogs that came in they're eating the cats they're eating what can you do with this information whether or not it's true is not matter happen in our country though it does play as far as rallies are concerned as far as the reason they go is they like what I say they want to bring our country back they want to make America great again it's very simple phrase make America great again she's destroying this country and if she becomes this country doesn't have a chance of success not only success we had to turn people on steroids I just want to clarify here you bring up Springfield Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused by individuals within the Immigrant Community I se people on television let me just say here this is onion Grandpa and so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager I'm not taking this from dog was eaten by the people that went there the people that went there there's no evidence of that vient I'll let you respond to the we'll find out about the dogs you talk about extreme um you know I this is I think one of the reasons why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have forly worked with President Bush Mitt Romney and John McCain including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick CH Liz CH that's what it means to be a mighty man of if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already just ask people who have worked with him his former Chief of Staff of fourstar general has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States his for National Security advisor has said he dangerous and unfit his former Secretary of Defense has said the nation the Republic would never survive another Trump term and when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this election President Trump I'll give you a quick minute to respond here uh thank you because when I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people not so graciously they did bad things or a bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who's who were just killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen so when somebody does a bad job I fire him and you take a guy like esper he was no good I fired him so he writes a book another one writes a book because with me they can write books with nobody else can they but they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody look at the economy look how look at the inflation they didn't fire any of their economists they have the same people that's a good way not to have books written about you but just to finish I got more votes than any Republican in history by far in fact I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far let me continue on immigration it was what you wanted to talk about earlier so let's get back to your deportation uh proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well president Trump you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country you say you would use the National Guard you say if things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US Military you also said you would use local police uh how would you Deport 11 million undocumented immigrants I know believe that number is much higher take us through this what does this look like will authorities be going door too in this country yeah it is much higher because of them they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in drug dealers to come into our country and they're now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you do you know the crime in Venezuela crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country and this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes but it's not worth it because they're they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done there's never been anything done like this at all they've destroyed the fabric of our country millions of people you got to blame the real the world people who are to blame the all over the world except here crime here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody cover the FBI says overall is com down this country excuse me the FBI defra they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities they didn't include the cities with the worst crime it was a a fraud just like there 88,000 jobs that they said they created turned out to be a fraud president Trump thank you I'll let you respond vice president I saw on TV should be a drop coming from someone who has been prosecuted for National Security crimes economic crimes election interference has been found liable for sexual assault and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing and let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement the former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts so let's talk about what is important in this race it is important that we move forward that we turn the page on this same old Tire take the mant address the needs of the American people address what we need to do about the housing shortage which I have a plan for address what we must do to support our small businesses address Bringing Down the price of groceries but frankly the American people are exhausted with this same old tired Playbook vice president Harris thank you excuse me every one of those cases was started by them against their political oppon and I'm winning most of them and I will win the restone appeal and you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court I'm winning most of them but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases with was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fny Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones that made them go after me by the way Joe Biden was found essentially guilty of the do where is and what happened in my document case they said oh that's the toughest of them all a complete and total Victory two months ago it was thrown out it's weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election their fake cases president Trump thank you a really quick response here vice president Harris on this notion of weaponization of the justice department well let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place the United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his political enemies she's doing a good job of like reminding people of like the exhaust MERS of our military understand Donald Trump were back in the white house with no guard rails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him we know JD Vance is not going to stop him it's up to the American people vice president Harris thank you Lindy vice president Harris your for weaponized please this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy I'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to democracy Russia Russia Russia investigation that went nowhere we have a lot to get to stop talking about the assassination we got to move on things now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now your campaign says you don't you supported decriminalizing border crossings now you're taking a harder line I know you say that your values have not changed so then why have so many of your policy positions changed so my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania I'm made that very clear in 2020 I will not ban fracking I have not banned fracking as vice president of United States and in fact I Was the tiebreaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking right my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our Reliance on foreign oil we have had the largest the Trump domestic oil history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil as it relates to my values let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager the values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first term my work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather and my focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable going for the that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work that I have done protecting seniors from scams my values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling the true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down it's in lifting people up I intend to be that president president Trump your resp first of all I wasn't given 400 million I wish I was my father was a Brooklyn Builder Brooklyn Queens and father and I learned a lot from him but I was given a fraction of that fraction built it into many many billions many many billions and when people see it they are even surprised so we don't have to talk about that Fring she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been against that forever she gave all that stuff up oh she very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now oh Mr M sound familiar you said that to Prince and that always bothered me father and wanted to let criminals burn down Minneapolis she went out and raised money to get them out of jail she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical do this she wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania she won't tell you she's in Pennsylvania will end on day one just to finish one thing so important in my opinion so I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took when they took over they got rid of it started getting rid of it and the prices were going up the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were I would have been five times four times five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy were were quadrupling and doubling you saw what happened to gasoline so they said let's go back to Trump but if she won the election the day after that election they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead fossil fuel will be dead we'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out you ever see a solar plant by the way I'm a big fan of solar but they take 400 500 Acres of desert soil are not for the Environ understand got to be quick Lindsay thank you we have an election and the Sher could get electrocuted and I want to talk about the peaceful transfer of power which of course we all know is the RO of a president in a moment of Crisis Mr President on January 6th you told your supporters to March to the capital you said you would be right there with them the country in the world saw what played out of the capital that day the officers coming under attack AIDS in the west wings say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office you did send out tweets but it was more than 2 hours before you sent out that video message uh telling your supporters to go home is there anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically I said during my speech not later onfully and patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed Ashley babbett was shot by an out of control police officer should have never never shot her Trum got her killed with lies but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly I ask what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she allowed to pour in she was the bordar remember that she was the bordar she doesn't want to be called the Bazar because she's embarrassed by the she said at the beginning I'm surpris you're not talking about the B she knows what a bad job they've done what about those people what's what are they going to be prosecuted when these people from countries all over the world not just South America they're coming in from all over the world crime rates are down all over the world because of it one of those David one of those people going to be prosecuted one of the people that burned down Minneapolis going to be prosecuted or in Seattle they went into Seattle they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle when are those people going to be prosecuted okay Grand let me just ask you might ask her that question you were the president you were watching unfold on television it's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election is there anything you regret about what you did on that day yeser I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech I showed up for a speech I said I think it's going to be big I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington DC and the mayor put it back in writing as you know I said you know this is going to be a very big Rally or whatever you want to call it and again it wasn't done by it was done by others I said said I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers they rejected me Nancy Pelosi rejected me it was just two weeks ago her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened they want to get rid of that tape it would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs I was respons for security Nancy Pelosi was responsible she didn't do her job the question was about you as president not about former speaker Pelosi but I do want vice president to respond here I was at the capital on January 6th I was the vice president elect I was also an acting Senator I was there and on that day the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital on that day 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died and and understand the former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason but this is not an isolated situation let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying TIY torches spewing anti-semitic hate and what did the president then at the time say there were fine people on each side let's remember that when it came to the proud boys a militia the president said the former president said stand back and stand by so for everyone watching who remembers what January he doesn't want to be doing this right now say we don't have to go back let's not go back we're not going back it's time to turn the page and if that was a bridge too far for you well there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country to stand for our democracy to stand for rule of law and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome and be clear on that point Donald Trump the candidate has said in this election there will be a blood bath he and the outcome of this election is not to his liking let's turn the page on this let's not go back let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past let me just follow up here it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been as you would say debunked Laura Ingram Sean Hannity Jesse all of these people of the most rightwing fanatics extra sentence they will see it was perfect it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up they bring all of this stuff up I ask you this about why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border how come she's not doing anything and I'll tell you what I would do and I would be very proud to do it I would say we would both leave this debate right now I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC during the debate cuz we're wasting a lot of time go down to she been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to Washington DC and let her sign a bill to close up the Border because they have the right the B they have the right to do the president of the United States get out of bed you'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to the office let's sign a bill if he signs a bill that the border is all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are if they do that the is closed those people are killing many people unlike j6 we talked immigration here tonight I want to focus on this next issue to into Focus Truth uh in these times that we're living in uh Mr President for three and a half years after uh you lost the 2020 election you repeatedly falsely claim that you won many times saying you won in a landslide in the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate uh you have said quote you lost by whisker that you quote didn't quite make it that you sorry ashy are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020 I don't acknowledge that at all I said that sarcastically you know that itman let's look that up we said sarcastically look I said it sarcastically it I've seen the and they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval I got almost 75 million votes the most votes any sitting president has ever got I was I got 63 you can't be beaten population people should never thinking about it an election is fraudulent we need two things we need walls we need and we have to have it we have to have borders and we have to have good elections our elections are bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in they're trying to get them to vote they can't even speak English they don't even know what country they're in practically and these people are trying to get them to vote and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country I watch all these pieces of video I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by Whisper we didn't quite make it and we should just point out here as clarification and you know this you and your allies 60 cases in front of many judges many of them and said there didn't have standing that's the other thing they said we didn't have standing a technicality can you imagine a system where a person if Harris sat down and wrote out hopefully he'll spend 20 minutes debating the finer points what Rudy juliani was doing as far as like taking the bait every time she's put her line in the water immediately we have so many statistics that doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now that's old news and the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in Decline they have 911 in a verb guy immigration and no other words Mr President thank you uh vice president Harris you heard the president there tonight he said he didn't say that that he lost by whisker so he still uh believes uh he did not lose the election uh that was won by President Biden uh and yourself but I do want to ask you about something that's come up in the last couple of days this was a post from uh president Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away he said when I win those people who cheated and then he lists donors voters election officials he says we be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law which will include long-term prison sentences one of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us we won't let him suppress the vote is that what you believe he's trying to do here Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people so let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts as he did in the past to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election and I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as vice president United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump I have talked with military leaders some of whom worked with you they say you're a disgrace and when you then talk in this way in a presidential debate and deny what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election should bring up jul one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or or the ability to not be confused about fact that's deeply troubling and the American people deserve better resp let me just tell about world leaders Victor Orban one of the most respected man they call him a strong man he's a he's a tough person smart prime minister of Hungary they said why is the whole world blowing up three years ago it wasn't why is it blowing up he said because you need Trump back as president they were afraid of afraid I don't like to use the word afraid but I'm just quoting him China was afraid of him North Korea was afraid of him look at what's going on with North Korea by the way he said Russia was afraid of him I ended the nordstream 2 Pipeline and Biden put it back on day one but immediate B mention Exel pipeline in our country he ended that but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into to Germany the biggest pipeline in the world look Victor Orban said it he said the most respected like what hungry is that a hung H yeah see if hungry is trending on good man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running on set of H he got no votes he got 14 conservative full of people screaming that ABC State cultural Mar 14 million and they you know what I'll give you a little secret he hates her he can't stand her but he got 14 million votes they threw him out you're supposed to be zero votes and when she ran she was the first one to leave because she failed and now she's running I don't understand it but I'm okay with it because is think we're going to do very sounds like somebody who's really okay with this you were right about this Bradley Americans among them vice president Harris in December you said quote isra has a right to defend itself but you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian law must be respected Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians you said that nine months ago now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead nearly 100 hostages remain just last week prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the making President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got here on October 7th Hamas a terrorist organization slaughtered 1200 Israelis many of them young people who are simply attending a concert to horal dir and so absolutely I said then I say now has a right to defend itself we would and how it does so matters because it is also true far too many inocent Palestinians have been killed exact same children mothers what we know is that this war must end it must when end immediately and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out and so we will continue to work around the clock on that work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution oh my God the same sh that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and in equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will give Israel the ability to defend itself in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel but we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve president Trump how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas in order to get the host Prill more innocent civilians in Gaza if I were president it would have never started if I were president Russia would have never ever I know Putin very well he would have never and there was no threat of it either by the way for four years we'll get to Russia later Ukraine and killed millions of people when you add it up far worse than people understand what's going on over there but when she mentions about Israel all of a sudden she hates Israel she wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech she refused to be there because she was at a sority party of hers she wanted to go to the sority party insulting the black sority good idea if she's president I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now and I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one she hates Israel at the same time in her own way can we get that she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up Arabs Jewish people Israel Israel will be gone he won't even say pal have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different uh spheres of Terror and they are spheres of Terror had no money it was a big story and you know it you covered it very well actually they had no money for Terror now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around look at what's happening with the houis and Yemen look at what's going on in the Middle East this would have never happened I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended if I'm president-elect I'll get it done before even becoming president why don't you just do it now dude that's absolutely not true I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people he knows that he's trying to again divide and and distract from the reality which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on National Security and foreign policy it is well known that he admires dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself it is well known he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un and it is absolutely welln that these dictators autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors and that why so many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace that is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on National Security including the importance of upholding respecting in highest regard our military vice president Harris thank you they're the ones and she's the one that caus it that's weak on National Security by allowing Every Nation last month for the year 168 different countries sending people into our country their crime weights are way down immigration Putin endorsed her last week said I hope she wins and I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely incredible it would have happened with me he knows leaders of other countries think that they're weak and incompetent and they are they're grossly incompetent and I just ask one question why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline approve the single biggest deal that Russia ever made nor stre to the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe because they're weak and they're ineffective and Biden by the way paid a lot of money thank you we have a lot of issues to get we'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News I'm run get a drink analysis go oh okay I was hoping to get a drink but you know you can go off and uh no no it's okay I got I'm really just joking around um I don't know what to say I think she did a phenomenal job doing great and comporting himself with the utmost uh composure and and no like the reality is is like I mean again the politics of what she's saying are not our politics but it's about what what plays to most people like I mean theth yeah I mean even the China hawy which is something I've criticized the Biden Administration for orienting their policy towards like that plays well in the way that she framed it in terms of competition with China she did a good job on that front I mean it is brain dead I do want to underline talking about Quantum Computing yeah it's it's silly but the CH but she's trying to allude to the chips act which was like a you know a decent like I don't know onshore investing in that in that kind of Technology but still within the like context of of competing with China which money to Intel so they can lay people off I mean like I yeah right I've been the leader in fertilization Trump said about IVF um Trump it's true actually I fertilized a lot of people the country Buster that is inflation and the only thing she was specific on as it related to her flip-flopping was the fracking thing so the other stuff she's like not really in terms of like health care she's avoiding on that front it's just like a mercenary like decision to be like I'm Pro ing because Pennsylvania's maybe the closest swing state of the three it's definitely the closest of the three Rust Belt yeah and it's the most it has the most electoral votes I mean I think look um uh just analyzing this from the perspective of the undecided voter whom they are definitely catering to at least the Harris campaign is she wants to be the change candidate and I think she has definitely achieved that she wants to remind the American public that Donald Trump brings chaos and obsessed with his own drama and is obsessed with his own drama and I think like she has forced him to get there um she was very strong on abortion um she she put him into a tough position with his own supporters in terms of like him saying you know no abortion ban I haven't talked to JD about that actually I don't know what he was talking about and we don't have to discuss it the uh I mean in terms of like sewing him as the chaos thing is like you don't want to go back to that very effective I would say the only thing that with some cohort and it's usually like the men and that's who you know Trump is playing to this idea that he is so strong that he would scare all the uh you know other countries um from doing anything I think is somewhat effective but that's you know that's going to happen like I mean I think that's like that's baked into the cake right there's those guys who are open to that don't believe a woman is ever going to be there and I have to say that like you know relatively speaking um waking up at 2 in the morning you know uh or 3 in the morning uh thinking about this it wasn't hard for me to imagine that Harris was going to go completely bat crap crazy in trying to prove that she's you know Margaret Thatcher exactly or uh and uh to a large extent she has I think like been very effective in not having to sort of I mean I think like I think we see that a little bit in the China rhetoric and I think we see that but immigration too I mean there's no plan except to point out his hypocrisy but her thinking is I don't need any other thing because all that does is trigger him I mean what does she need to present the line where she said um he wants to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem like again this type of problem I can't stand yeah but this debate is not for me I mean it's not for you and it's in for many respects it's not for anybody watching who are you know do this on a regular basis and follow politics it is that whole like Problem Solver mentality why can't they get along why can't we do stuff she wants to get stuff done you know it's it's it's baby brained politics but what but I think about like the undecided voter in my head we all have family members or like the stuff that's strong on the military where she looks like she has a plan on certain topics like um I mean the abortion stuff is going to be really good for her to drive female turnout I think but um even the stuff on the economy at the beginning from the national Constitution Center in Philadelphia Pennsylvania I mean I wish the media gave a about the genocide they could have follow welcome back to this historic ABC News presidential debate tonight we're going to continue here and I want to turn to the war in Ukraine we're now 2 and a half years wouldn't have happened if it has been the position of the Biden Administration that we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin to defend their sovereignty their democracy that it's in America's best interest to do so arguing that if Putin wins he may be to move even further into other countries you have said you would solve this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight do you want Ukraine to win this War I want the war to stop I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions it's the millions it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which your fake numbers look everything you have is fake we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are they're in for $150 billion less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO they paid billions and billions hundreds of billions of dollars when I said either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore so that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people but you take a look at what's happening we're in for 250 to 275 billion they're into a 100 to 150 they should be forced to equalize with that being said I want to get the War settled I know zalinski very well and I know Putin very well I have a good relationship and they respect your president okay they respect me they don't respect Biden how would you respect him why for what reason he hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin hasn't spoken to anybody they don't even try and get it that is a war that's dying to be settled I will get it settled before I even become president if I win when I'm president El and what I'll do is I'll speak to one I'll speak to the other I'll get them together that war would have never happened and in fact when I saw Putin after I left unfortunately left because our our country has gone to hell but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers he did it after I left I said oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to World War II don't kid yourself David we're playing with World War II and we have a president that we don't even know where is our president we don't even know if he's a president just to clarify out of a like we don't even know is he our president but we have a president that doesn't know he's alive I doesn't know he's alive just to clar question it still keeps believe it's in the US best interest for Ukraine to win this war yes or no I think it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done negotiate a deal because we have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed I want to take this to vice president Harris I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment but also as commanderin-chief elected how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me I believe that reason that Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up and that's not who we are as Americans let's understand what happened here um I actually met with zalinski a few days before Russia invaded tried through Force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the most important International rules and Norms which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity and I met with President zansky I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself days later I went to NATO's Eastern flank to Poland and Romania and through the work that I and others did we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense and because of our support because of the air defense the ammunition the artillery the javelins the Abrams tanks that we have provided Ukraine stands as an independent and country if Donald Trump were President Putin would be sitting in keev right now and understand what that would mean because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have done bid right now the ability of ziny and the ukrainians to fight for their independence otherwi would be sitting in ke with his eyes on the rest of Europe starting with Poland and why don't you tell the 800,000 polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president Harris thank you we've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight Afghanistan fan came up in the last hour I I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier and I please I'll I'll give you a minute here Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in Moscow quiet, he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons they don't ever talk about that he got nuclear weapons nobody ever thinks about that and eventually the first maybe has been that threatening but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about nobody likes to talk about it but just so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started she was the Emissary they sent her in to negotiate with zalinski and Putin and she did and the war started 3 days later and that's the kind of talent we have with her she's worse than Biden in my opinion I think he's the worst president in the history of our country she goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country but let me tell you something she is a horrible negotiator they sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left Putin did The Invasion president Trump thank you you did bring up something you said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin vice president president Harris have you ever met Vladimir Putin can you clarify tonight yet again I said at the beginning of this debate you're going to hear a bunch of Lies coming from this fell and that is another one when I went to meet with President zans I've now met with him over five times the reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader upholding International rules and Norms as a leader who shows strength understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy and that is very much what is here the president of the United States is commanderin-chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and respon responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery we've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin I do want to talk about Afghanistan it came up in in the first hour of this debate I I wanted to move on to Afghanistan said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen he got these countries the 28 countries at the time he said I've never seen he's the head of he said I've never seen for years we were paying almost all of NATO we were being ripped off by European nations both on trade and on NATO I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't pay we're not going to protect you otherwise we would have never gotten it he said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done I don't want to to Afghanistan it came up in the first hour of the debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan I do want to ask the vice president uh do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan four presidents said they would and Joe Biden did and as a result America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war and as of today there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this Century but let's understand how we got to where we are Donald Trump when he was president negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine he calls himself a dealmaker even his National Security advisor said it was a weak terrible deal and here's how it went down she's he bypassed the Afghan government he negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban the negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorist Taliban terrorists released and get this no get this and the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David a place of stored significance for us as Americans a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy where we invite and receive respected work world leaders i' forgotten about that actually that was this former president as president invited them to Camp David because he does notu the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commanderin-chief with a level of respect and this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military Fallen soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world vice president Harris resp saying negotiations the Taliban so if you take a look at that period of time the Taliban was killing our soldiers a lot of them with snipers and I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing that's the Fighting Force within Afghan understand they don't bother doing that because you know they deal with the wrong people all the time but I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban he is still the head of the Talib and I told Abdul don't do it anymore you do it anymore problem you're don't do it anymore why you send meure my house I said you're going have figure that out and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo was a very good agreement not the reason anyway Mike Pompeo we getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers we wouldn't have left many Americans behind and we wouldn't have left we wouldn't have left $85 billion worth of brand new beautiful military equipment behind but cares more about than the Americans blew it the agreement said you have to do this this this this this and they didn't do it they didn't do it the agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed and these people the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are President Trump thank you her boss is not I want to move on now to race and politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight what's wrong why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent I don't and I don't care I don't care what she is I don't care uh you make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me but those were your words so I'm ask I don't know I don't know I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black it's a racist and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her that's up to her vice president Harris your thoughts on this same old Playbook I think it's I mean honestly I think it's a a tragedy that we have um someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the American people you know I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and especially by race and let's remember how Donald Trump started he was a a a a land he owned land he owned buildings and he he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent the Central Park 5 took out a full page ad calling for their execution this is the same individual who spread bir or lies about the first black president of the United States and I think the American people want better than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other a friend we see in each other a neighbor we don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans Point their fingers at each other I meet with people all the time who tell me can we please just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the Ambitions and the dreams of the American people knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks we all have the same dreams and aspirations and Want a President Who invest in those not in hate and division vice president Harris thank you Lindsay president Trump this is now your third time wait wait wait I need to presidency I'd like to scream a little in the history of our country there's never been anything like it they're destroying our country I remember glue and they come up with things like what she just said going back many many years when a lot of people including May Bloomberg agreed with me on the Central Park 5 they admitted they plead guilty 12 to one I said well if they pled guilty they'd badly hurt a person killed a person ultimately and if they pled guilty then they pled we're not guilty but this is a person that has to stretch back years 40 50 years ago because there's nothing now I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world and so what if I going to be bigger better and stronger but they're destroying our economy they have no idea what a good economy is they're oil policies every single policy and remember this does he ask for a second debate now she's trying to get away from Biden I don't know the gentleman she says she is Biden the worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad bid where is he and you can't get away with that thank you your time is up I want to respond to that though I want to just respond briefly clearly I am not Joe Biden and I am certainly not Donald Trump and what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country there we go one who believes in what is possible one who brings a sense of optimism there no R America about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American people I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses which is why have a plan let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their Ambitions their Innovation their ideas their hard work I have a plan $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life to help you in that most critical stage of your child's development I have a plan s of allowing people to be able to pursueing in terms of the American dream by offering a help $25,000 down payment assistance for firsttime home buyers that's the kind of conversation I believe David that people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling let's turn the page Harward thank you let's turn to let's turn move on President Trump let's turn to policy please has a plan to defund the police she has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else that's what her plan is until just recently I just need the former president has said something twice that I need to respond to I'm sorry we're we're going to move on President Trump this is now your third time running for president you have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act also known as Obamacare you have failed to accomplish that you now say you're going to keep Obamacare quote unless we can do something much better last month you said quote we're working on it so tonight nine years after you first started running do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is Obamacare was lousy Health Care always was it's not very good today and what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things three weeks away project2 I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it they wouldn't vote for it they were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it if they would have done that we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare but the Democrats came up they wouldn't vote for it I had a choice to make when I was President do I save it and make it as good as it can be never going to be great or do I let it rot and I felt I had an obligation even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and Let It Go away I decided and I told my people the top people and they very good people I have a lot of good people in this read about the bad ones we had some real bad ones too and so do they they have really bad ones the difference is they don't get rid of them but let me just I had a choice to make do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot and I saved it I did the right thing but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people and what we will do is we're looking at different plans if we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare then I would absolutely do it but until then I'd run it as good as it can be run so just so yes or no you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan I'm not President we need to do that as a drop I've said that we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future Harris in 2017 you supported Bernie Sanders proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run Health Care System two years later you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option what is your plan today I didn't mean any well first of all I absolutely support and over the last four years as vice president private healthcare options but what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act but I I I'll get to that Lindsay I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made I've made very clear my position on fracking and then this business about taking everyone's guns away Tim Walls and I are both gun owners we're not taking anybody's guns away so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff roll up on as it Rel to the Affordable Care Act understand just look at the history to know where people stand when Donald Trump was President passeng 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act 60 times I was a senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United State Senate and the late great John McCain who you have disparaged as being she's going you don't like him you said at the time his he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never that night walked down to the floor and said no you don't no you don't no you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act you have no plan and what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma this ISC Survivor not the had diabetes and thankfully look the bill as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you the American people Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices he never did we did and now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month since I've been Vice President we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year and when I am President we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it and the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act not get rid ofely in terms of where Donald Trump stands on to an issue that's important for a lot made a mistake what does she mean by streng number one John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years but it wasn't only him it were all of the Democrats that kept it going and you know what we can do much better than Obamacare much less money but she won't improve private insurance for people private medical insurance that's another thing she doesn't want to give people are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need immediately president Trump thank you we have another issue that we'd like to go to Americans in particular younger V and that's climate change president Trump with regard to the environment you say that we have to have clean and clean water vice president Harris you call climate change an existential threat the question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and vice president Harris we'll start with you one minute for you each well the former president had said the climate change is a hoax and what we know is that it is very real you ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occur es who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up you ask anybody who has been um the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go we know that we can actually deal with this issue the young people of America care deeply about this issue and I am proud that as vice president over the last four years we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production historic levels we have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs he lost manufacturing jobs and I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Shan feain who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American made American automobiles it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up Auto plants not closing them like happened under Donald Trump vice president Harris thank you that didn't happen under Donald Trump let me just tell you they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month it's going they're all leaving uh they're building big Auto plants in Mexico in many cases owned by China they're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people what they have given to China is unbelievable but we're not going to let that we'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place what they've done to business and Manufacturing in this country is horrible we have nothing because they they refuse you know Biden doesn't go chid millions of dollars he's afraid to do it between him and his son they get all this money from Ukraine they get all this money from all of these different countries wonder why is he so loyal to this one that one Ukraine China why is he get million from moscow's wife why did he get why did she pay him $35 million this is a crooked Administration and they're selling our country down the tubes president president Trump thank you thank you we'll be right back closing statements from both of our candidates an historic night this ABC News presidential going to end early back a well they they do their closing statements and then we'll be done by like 11: right it looks I I would guess that we're going to be done by 1045 yeah Trump needs to head out and scream into a pillow or something for a second and then we'll we'll wrap up I I mean I I gotta say um my sense is you know obviously I would I would have loved her to say uh some different things but from the perspective of assessing what their agenda was the um her campaign people have to be ecstatic yeah I mean can we move up the um the the the time for our going live on the main Channel we can do I think okay U so folks as soon as we are done here we're going to be over on the live on the on the main channel uh which you guys are on on my phone for whatever reason there's 3300 people looking at the side of my head and hearing nothing except for you and I talking not the actual debate but maybe you're uh listening at home um and uh and then we we'll do the debate wrapup but I mean the there there are Harris campaign people who are just like bumping right now I mean I don't think they're you know it's not as big as the last debate but it is no this is not but and I don't want to you know people misunderstand this is not a slam dunk yeah but the point is that Harris could not have done better and and and you know Trump didn't have a total meltdown but in terms of like where we are in the race and what um what you could anticipate um this was of like Harris needed to come out and just seem like she's competent normal um and a change agent and I don't know how it's received but in terms of her executing it that's what she did we were right about Harris and how she'd be so much better than Joe Biden this entire time oh my God like I mean I mean honestly this time in the last debate I I thought that was all no I'm like oh well drums the president yeah I I'll save my anal I I want to digest it like with their closing statements here a little bit and then I'll I'll I don't think that we can rule out a slam dunk in this situation I mean it's pretty resounding I I you know I I always contend at the end of debate debates that like I can't really fully assess because it's really not targeted towards us like you know I don't but we're we're acknowledging the fact that even the rhetoric that we're saying like the stuff about you know I don't know the China hawkishness I that's not my politics but do I think that plays it's the Democratic party's politics and she's way better at elaborating it than Joe Biden was exactly but even stuff like her like you know um you know let's all get along why are we dividing why can't we don't want to go back I mean like frankly like look I don't think we can all get along um and uh we have to crush them but I understand that you know but that's what that but this also a display of partisanship have we heard bipartisan from her one time no word no actually that is the interesting thing and has a great Point um she all of her where where where Obama said there's no red America blue America she didn't talk about a political divide she was talking about more of like a social divide she was like getting underneath the politics and that I think is is is really a good point like she didn't say I'm bipartisan she just said like neighbor to neighbor it's Tim waly I was to say wall she picked walls right walls crucially says the thing about we don't want to be at Thanksgiving having these upsetting conversations it is political in nature it's just not mind your own damn business politics are better one than Biden's just like from where she's come from from an A from an more activist family than Obama right as well like I think she just is a little more partisan and also the party is in a better position to be more partisan so it's a good caveat that there's a Tex ink on her that doesn't exist on Biden I don't think but the the Tex ink yeah I I mean talking about what policies are going to be Tony West it is a and and done uh I mean well you guys I don't know if you guys saw TR it yeah that that that her her her debate prep is is is Katherine Dunn I think her name is she's represen she D she's representing Google in a in the she during the day she is doing debate prep at night she's preparing to literally be the lead litigator I'm not saying she's Bernie Sanders but do I think that maybe like slightly I think she's better than welcome back tonight the time has come for closing statements and vice president Harris we begin with you these two I say did a good job so I think you've heard tonight two very different Visions for our country one that is focused on the future yep and the other that is focused on the past than go and an attempt to take us backward but we're not going back and I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us and we can chart a new way forward and a vision of that includes having a plan understanding the aspirations the dreams the hopes the ambition of the American people which is why I intend to create an opportunity economy investing in small businesses in new families and what we can do around protecting seniors what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own own body and not have her government tell her what to do I'll tell you I started my career as a prosecutor I was a DA I was an attorney general a United States Senator and now Vice President I've only have one client the people and I'll tell you as a prosecutor I never asked a victim or a witness are you a Republican or a Democrat the only thing I ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of President we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you the American people vice president Harris thank you president Trump so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it bro you were also the president years they've had three and a half years to fix the Border they've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things you K why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white house go to the capital get everyone together do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simp question switch to Fox News and then just go live Fox News crack down We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being left at all over the world all over the world I know the leaders very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire military she gave a lot out of it away to the Taliban she gave it to Afghanistan what these people have done to our country and may is allowing millions of people to come into our country many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country the worst president the worst vice president in the history of our country president Trump thank you and that is our ABC News presidential debate switch it over to Fox News folks we're heading right now to we are heading right now to our uh main channel uh I'm going to end this side thing thank you for hanging out I don't know why you did but we're going I'm going to shut down the oh God I'll figure it out in a second uh we're heading over to uh youtube.com Sam seedar join us there right now yep oh well we're signing off and then we'll go right there uh and I just ended my stream so we should be live on the Main feed now I'm going to um cut the old one all right put this volume up the debate are you better off than you were four years ago never fully received an answer there however vice president Harris was clearly well prepared practiced on the offensive much of the night former president Trump did take a lot of debate that she threw out in some of those answers but he pointed he did there at the end about what she has or has not done as president the question now is how much does this move the needle yeah I mean it has to be said that she was really never held to the fire she was not pressed the moderators her past positions and how she got from a very Progressive most Progressive Senator to where she is now um and that falls on ABC um and I think there were moments when it felt like they were helping her out and they were not helping him out um there were times when he didn't pivot as well as he should have to move on to some of the points that he know doubt wanted to make um he went down a few cat and dog holes uh rather than rabbit holes tonight which will be discussed no doubt I thought the strongest moments were foreign policy Iran when he talked about Ukraine Afghanistan and that closed why haven't you done it okay let's go around the horn U there you go I mean they well I thought the single question that needed to be answered tonight was Madame vice president why have you changed your position give us your thoughts on why you changed position not just on the handful the small handful of issues that were raised by the moderators but on a range of other issues there were like two questions on the whole thing all evening she never had to account for her changes never she go down the list she never really she never did now you go down the list buddy make no mistake about it Trump had a bad night there you go he rose to the bait repeatedly when she baited him um something I'm sure his advisers had begged him not to do um you know in the first debate when Biden attacked him he just kept his cool and kept going in this debate he and we heard so many of the old grievances that that we long thought that Trump had learned were not winners politically and there they all were you know talking about how he didn't lose the election and all that I mean so my sense is that she came out of this in pretty good shape now how long this will last and and is is is anybody's guess but um for for tonight at least this was pretty much her night you're saying she had a good night I'm saying she certainly did Sean Hannity is in the spin room uh I I'll tell you what Sean H that's I didn't disagree with you I think disagree on other parts of what he said I think the biggest loser in the debate and we talk pre-debate is ABC the fact that we we didn't get to when they talking about Harris had take taken um on very I can't was game champion the officials really lost at the end of the day it was really the officials L rehearsal that I saw in in her performance okay that's fine that was anticipated um I was there were a lot of lies that she told about abortion about project 2025 about gun confiscation and that was G good job incidentally thank you deep EP herey time she played the long game she should make tomorrow she comes out in full support of kamla Harris it's time for the uh the yoga um Surfer to come in from the cold fact that we don't know if she still supports you know Free Housing healthare education and I wish she would God I don't know if she's for the good things she pretends to like after an and a debate that's what's incredible don't even her account turn this down just a little bit I will say this like when when they went after Reverend right with Barack Obama that is when people like myself were like oh this guy could be good this guy could be good uh now it turned out I actually believe uh uh Barack Obama when he said I actually never sat in any of those pews I now believe that but when Reverend Wright stuff came out the Wright thought like oh this is the thing that's going to kill him and all I know is like for me it was like Hey man for that could be good right but all right we can I I think we yeah we get a sense that they're not happy with how Trump they are definitely uh it they are freaking out a little bit there is no doubt about it let's see let's go to Harold Ford Jr Harold um your takeway from tonight maybe so I agree with Britt uh this what has to be thought of by supporters of Donald Trump uh and people in that campaign is a disappointment June 27th we talked about before was a different kind of collapse for Joe Biden in some ways this has to be thought of as as a collapse in reaction from Republican friends the two common things were train wreck and he needs this to end these are people who support him and I think we'll continue to support said about Jo Biden night that he seemed all over the place he seemed unprepared and unorganized I get the sense I think ABC the the moderators could have done a better job but it's almost like if you're in a a basketball game and you go up against playing a team that's taller than you you don't complain at the end of the game they're taller than us we knew that before he's used to people piling on him he just didn't seem like he was ready remind if you're a voter watching tonight I was reminded of the great Dennis Green the former coach of the Vikings who said apparently uh according to Matt Trump tonight was that guy he doesn't think the head of the taliban's name is Abdul like it's like almost like close enough okay look we know what we meant of those ABD the guy the Quick's name is it was the of the country then you have to be willing to those things finally she was tenacious okay so should we uh give our the future of the country he was a little of this or do you want to hear more of this I think we should hear more of a Herold for well I'm curious what happens when we get to the other the right winger well if we get to 11 p.m you've been president before we get to 11: p.m. definitely turn no I know well I'm just curious if if they're going to go to they're not going to go to a different show right or are they just doing the spin room stuff until Harish campaign Brian Fallon just sending out that was fun let's do it again in October um to that point fox has officially invited both campaigns uh to a debate in October uh we have sent a formal invitation as we had before give us Jimmy door please I wonder what Jimmy door is host onx new this bad for Trump because now they can't accuse hiding the American people would love another opportunity to see these candidates it's been such a short window and they deserve as many OPP certainly hope will take on that Jesse your thoughts oh here we go I don't think the American people are watching and thinking any of these people won this was this was rough this was pretty intense at times she started off shaky she regained her footing drunk I thought she was going to come not all the memorable lines were from Donald Trump Run Spot rum speaking does that sound familiar wake Joe up at 4:00 in the afternoon and go get him to sign this thing to close the border he looks absolutely you said I was a threat to democracy and they're eating the pets you know you watch this thing if you're a Democrat you're like oh she did a great job she was much more forceful than Joe Biden if you're Republican you look at this and you're like that's Donald Trump he had some moments where you were like oh my God where are we going with this but would the real issue is what if you are in the middle and so this race just got tighter that's meaning true see what exactly that looks like we we are we are just get started Anis a drunk he is wasted our coverage continues right after this very short look I've gotten wasted on many of these broadcasts not to be able to see it uh wet as Waters exactly there's a reason why we call them Waters um who should who should we uh check out um I mean I mean MSNBC is goingon to be glazing but um I guess right we could look at CNN honestly I'm curious what Jimmy dor is saying right now a little bit uh what's that they're reading IM Steph is reading okay yeah there we go we yeah um uh we could read some IMS uh majority report just made her point with that closing argument uh thank you guys for making listening to that orange clown not make me stab my eyes got my tickets for the Mr November election day woo uh go to a main Network I never watch cable news and certainly anything we faced in 2020 has fig figured out what no one else figured out how to do certainly Marco Rubio didn't figure it out by going after little hands he debased himself as many have um I want to show just some key moments saying where she need Donald Trump this is true on the most sort of obvious basic things that we all know he has said we all know our weak points to devastating effect let's just oh my devastating effect let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit I'm going to actually do something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch you will see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already just ask people who have worked with him John King it was the moment she talked about his crowd size of all things and people wasd being bored and leaving his Ries early I mean the only problem could be that like you know the media is all going to gang up on Trump in such a way that uh going to trigger some of his followers but I mean I think I mean this is got her footing during the abortion conversation that where she felt more comfortable and then she triggered him with the people leave your rallies uh and he lost it and he was angry from that moment on his voice went up he started angering he told a lot of lies going to be up all night we should start to GoFundMe for his so what did she do she triggered him on January 6 in democracy abortion chaos lies anger what are those those are the issues that turned the American suburbs away from Donald Trump and why he lost the 2020 election those are the voters who were waiting to see if she could stand there and be a plausible president next to him she cleared that bar that doesn't mean she won their votes but she cleared that bar with eight weeks left in the election she stood next to a former president and she more than held her own and on many of the issues uh she schooled him she simply schooled him because she triggered him into his lies and into his anger which does not sell well with the the middle of the election I'll tell you what this does more than anything else ton you know I've been involved in a lot of these I help prepare Harris two weeks of like the you know the cycle was turning against her and now it's back she has now basically taken the campaign to October Because by the time you get to the end of September you're going to be already talking about the vice presidential debate exactly exactly I want to hear this part Mohammad Ali in the debates mamad Ali you know their fear has to be that he knocks himself out he kind of helped but she set him up as John said but these things are more than about issues these things are tests these campaigns these debates they're oral exams for the hardest job on the planet and people judge you in these moments and they judge whether you have the medal to stand up to that pressure to to to to to to be coherent to deliver a case uh and she certainly did that tonight man she whooped him she just whooped him oh God say wish fulfillment like you know you watch a movie because you want something happen like some great romance people have wanted to see somebody Benes isol bra and people he's liberal Timol everything is ARP fail to put him in his place she got up put him in his place she baited him and then she spank she baited him and then she spank him and it and not only did she pass the commander and chief test he failed it he failed it do you want this guy dealing with a dictator it says everything you know about they you is coming he couldn't get out of the way makes um I mean if you can so unhinge somebody by saying people leave your rally any world leader can passed the test he failed it but I think also uh she was speaking for the people she really was speaking for the people I think the right God I really just I cannot handle this guy I know I like this guy uh you know try to encourage people with post and try to um you them help them if I can I mean the uh this is what's oh This Woman's kind of smart can we put her on unpredictable and it turned out she could use a Mad Libs of triggers of everything he's ever talked about or been bothered by and use them in a formula that was to first talk about an attack line he might have said to her take a topic she was weak on follow it up with a trigger for him and then watch him spin himself in circles trying to defend it and at the start of this conversation at the start of the night we talked about who's going to look like an incumbent versus who's going to look like a challenger and she I think she made herself look like the Challenger to a person and really kind of ran through his like the chall you know you know him well I mean even on the immigration question she quickly turned it and no she like her Alissa she dismantled him and made it that on the issues he should be the strongest CNN on MSNBC tears of joy put out there and he took it telephone perspective of okay if you're a trump you were at home what are you thinking sitting so glad she didn't do Mr she won the debate also that the starting think they were wa like I think she knew that she didn't want to do that in this to go bigger remember when she did that to Mr you know whatever she did that to like they had t-shirts ready and things like that that artifice it just feels like almost like well but that's VP almost on some level right it's like it's also sort of like I'm the attack dog she had to you know sort of come off as presidential put this down just a little you know King I mean this is sort of like you know this is this is just sort of like classic sort of wonk paum but we're at that stage of the campaign now where the people who are making their assessment of uh these candidates are doing it on the most ridiculous of metrics and the metric for some of these people is does she seem presidential and that you know like that's what and and that's what she was attempting to achieve she did she managed to sort of like tow that line between coming off as a presidential and being a little bit above it but also getting you know digging at him enough but digging at him in a way that only you and I or like people that pay attention to politics more regularly are going to pick up on in the sense of like the Wharton business school giving an analysis about 100% total dog whistle type of we know what that means right for Trump as as like he's so insecure about having what he transferred into pen that's his history right um so one the best students that's that's he's insecure about that um I have other notes here but like my my my basic takeaway here is like like the debate with Biden this exacerbated all of the exist weaknesses for Trump Y which like for Biden it was he's old he doesn't have it anymore he's not with it I mean that was a disaster for that narrative for Trump this is a very similar situation where he's out of control he's extreme he's a Chaos Agent she displayed that very well and or like forced him into that and it wasn't hard you remember Trump's a perfect foil like it's it's not hard to look presidential next to that guy and she's a and she's a perfect person to trigger that in him because she just has has to be a steady like frankly she's like she's a black woman she's also an attractive woman I mean I'm not trying to I I I can say she would not be the chosen one who I pick oh wait let's listen to this dude right wiing guy this guy's a right Wier you're complaining about Trump saying you don't have details on on your plan no details provided on anything here but for her she was she was very good at kind of answers but then never really answer the question pretty deep on, for small businesses I never thought I'd say this but CNN did such a great job on the debate in being fair or ABC was not fair this was this was a two two three onone times versus Trump demanding Trump the Comm Harris went asked about about her her values changing and and having to articulate the differences of why she was she you know she was for reparations not rep get to each of those and then she didn't get to any of them this is the talking point sending out there's a reason why what's his face my point is didn't say well Madam Vice President are you gonna answer that question or he did do that with Trump he there was more aggressive followup on the Trump questioning than there was on this gonna cry I would ask him are you gonna cry if I was it's supposedly this is supposedly a neutral territory right and yeah this is the amazing thing scale Republic voter nobody's even talking about how Trum repeated the whole eating the cats and dogs yes or no do is there anything you regret but I will say you know there are memes now of people pretending to eat their dogs on the internet making fun of this kind of situation so wased Afghanistan that's cheap media for her say yeah I regret that 13 young men and women get this guy I regret that I did not the three and a half years as vice president meet with their family I mean that she didn't say that follow up on that and that is that is disgusting to me look I agree with David that debate former Mell advisor here Scott definitely going to hear that I know he's but it is a little hard to complain about the refs when you're not making your own jump shots exactly exactly and and the first 15 minutes of this debate he won the questions were on the economy he used the same basketball even on the hard to complain about the rest there go right he's watching inexplicably on immigration that's where derailed him and from that point forward she basically dictated the flow now in the closing statements when he said you've been there for 3 and a half years why haven't you done it that really should have permeated that's his best argument it really should have permeated everything she she peppered all of her answers with I have a plan I have a plan he should have retorted every time you've been there that seems like the only thing they worked out in advance like that he had sort of in his mind okay this is something we're going to say but but look she she she tlor end just the she did tell some of heres she left some some things out there but overall she dictated the I want to go to Caitlin Collins in the debate spin room repic in the spin room I'll take it I yeah thanks Anderson I'm here and it is timely given we are talking with the governos about how Taylor Swift just came out and endorsed Kam Harris I know that you were claiming Taylor Swift is one of claim Taylor Swift oh I'm sure you love her you insufferable you were just watching what were your main takeaways of how vice president Harris did coming into this because there were main big questions about how she would fa on that debate stage you know kitlin I think we spoke a few weeks ago and I expressed to you that I was a little bit worried the American people had a little bit of brain fog about Donald Trump they didn't remember the chaos when he was in office I think Harris wiped out that brain fog and reminded people of the chaos of Donald Trump reminded them that he ripped away people's fundamental freedoms particularly the freedom for millions of women across this country to just make decisions she reminded them that here in Pennsylvania he wants take Health from 1.2 um fart way left has Taylor but we still have vo and Kid Rock baby um the uh I you know we're going to see if this has an impact but it really what it's really going to do anything other than a pillow guy support his insane uh rhetoric around this but look this is dangerous 140 police officers were hurt and some were killed this has caused issues across this country the campaign we're ready for this we know it's going to be a tough race we know that he's not going to probably concede that's why I say once again to Americans get out there get engaged make sure that we're doing everything necessary and I'm going to give a huge thank you to those election workers folks like my mom who been a poll Watcher for years folks that are on the Republican Democrats Independence who do the hard work of democracy for no money they're being put at risk by the recklessness of Donald Trump because he can't at 80 nearly 80 years old do something that my fourth graders when I taught him did when you lose a game you go shake hands and you congratulate the other person move this together this guy car nothing the Democracy unbelievable the American only Matt knows how to how to like just like without calling him out on this request on it making it clear that he's not I have to ADM like if I was like in a room with know down to the States so for all the listeners out there we need you we need you to get engaged we need you to send mess to this and I just came a few minutes ago um from talking with Mesa uh mayor Giles a republican who says I'm a strong Republican I don't agree with all of your positions but you are standing in the breach of democracy Donald Trump is a threat to that and he proudly stood there with he and his family that's the type of things we need Americans to do across this country comma heresy is going to be that you send out a notice to people that were on this but it's very he occasionally misss but I'm going to like take his gas earnestness over Biden which as a conduit to Congress want harama in this instance Donald Trump for that debate while we have been talking somebody just handed me something going to do sort of a not very TV thing and I'm going to read it to you she gets credit for doing the bare minimum in it in in totality I'm going to read you the whole thing because it's Tor I don't think you know about this um but this was just posted online um by a woman you might have heard of whose name is Taylor Swift oh my God truly I understand it's annoying but people people we know this was going on during the Super Bowl it was so obvious the fix the Pentagon Cates take on the topics that matter to you the most as a voter I make sure to watch polies and plans for this country how are you going to react aware me quote me falsely endorsing Donald Trump's presidental run was posted to his site it really conjured up my fears around Ai and the dangers of spreading misinformation it brought me to the conclusion AER in a well the as a voter the simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth then she says looking forward to MBC coverage of like in the2 female artists for Harris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to Champion them knew anything about Taylor Swift to be able to contextualize this but honestly she's like the Jeff Bezos of of of music so she has I know you don't like no I don't I don't like white feminism and I don't like this like Bradley turn this down just a little bit Bradley sitting there with a key what did you do break the uh the bourbon bottle I tried to take it off and then the the cap came off but not the cor uh I think we got a wrench around here for that or pliers bring that over here I'm just like watching you push it in with the key you don't want to do it that way you want to pull it out I want to be clear here I I I'm not I'm happy Taylor Swift is endorsing KLA Harris but I just feel like the outsize media attention that her endorsement gets is like extremely racialized and bizarre and I don't understand why MSNBC gives a know it's that was elent and it I've been I've been this is not my first rodeo the um like why are we this is getting Prime Time coverage right now she's a pop singer that like a and and because she probably has the most followers on Instagram or something I mean the sad thing is it could actually I mean some people probably wouldn't vote would vote just because Taylor told she's a climate Suburban women sure yeah I guess yeah right okay sure well Emma really you don't like I mean the primary purpose is if literally someone wouldn't vote and they would vote just because I mean I do I do I think not one American would just vote because Taylor Swift told him to I don't think so I think one I think multiple Americans would vote just because Taylor Swift told him to well she she decided to become a Democrat like what in 2018 or 2016 but after she rode like I don't know 10 to 15 years of white supremacist talking about her as like the the ideal for you know a public woman as which she didn't invite turn this down a little bit I mean she didn't dispel it see this is the I can't even engage in this argument because honestly I had no idea who she was uh until the whole like uh I shouldn't engage in it at all because trouble regardless I'm not going to blame her for white supremacist talking about her yeah I will say I I raised my eyebrow at her first signal after Trump winning was look what you made me do but that's just me being conspiratorial well yeah I mean do you mean she uh I think it was like look what you made us do by uh uming Trump yeah but I mean that's that's tangential and pro if it was a intentional I would say the label but yeah I mean she can cut if she shows a real demonstration to humanity she can cut down her like private plane usage from taking uh 10minute trips across a lot of people in our audience have already said that they are uh willing now to vote um because Taylor Swift is voting in our audience endorsing yeah our end a lot of swifties um I got to talk to Saul about this I've told you the story about what Saul you know like Saul who not a huge football fan had a problem with Taylor Swift well there's a lot of misogyny about it but but it's also my I stand by this she's the Jeff Bezos of Music everyone seems to listen to her and we're supposed to care about like what she says but it doesn't mean that anything she says is Meaningful it doesn't mean that it's making a change in the world it doesn't mean that she's a good person uh and it doesn't mean that her past like uh lack of activism when there were other uh pop stars who were way more vocal about gay rights in that time period or racism like she never engaged in that until it was profitable for her so I don't really care I I don't I mean I am just fated by a I I I agree with what most what em is saying but Emma's Taylor hating is actually it's one of the most legendary things about Emma's hating capabilities I have I have a de it's honestly remarkable I feel like there might be a story off uh like off air that you're going to tell us about Taylor Swift because this seems personal Tom Brady Russell Wilson Taylor Swift probably top three that's that's up not in that order I wouldn't even say yeah I just want to get off this now I'm I'm just I don't like white feminism I'm just giving you I don't like white feminism I think she's like the exact personification of it but yeah go um let's not watch walls anymore I don't I'm I'm less interested in in this I'm more interested in I mean look here is the um the the the there's there are two sort of elements about a debate broadly speaking just generally one is does it move any voters the debate itself and I think rarely does that happen the the debate itself does someone watch the debate and go like I'm now voting for Harris I mean yes you or or Trump for that matter you'll see people in focused groups and it may it might in the margins um but what it also does is it creates a narrative and there sort of like right now the weird thing about this election is because Harris there's like there's no back log there's no pre-existing narrative with with Harris it's tough to create events that feed into it so we're going to see the right keep doing ha Haitians are eating cats and dogs in this town they're going to go through this this is going to backfire over the next couple of days I mean if the Harris campaign is is smart and the like it sort of like the Democratic apparatus is smart they're going to hammer them over this cats and dogs thing with the Haitians because what they want to do is basically take the oxygen out of the next thing that they're going to do which is some Chinese immigrant or we found a you know an Isis flag on the the Rio Grand or whatever it is this is going to cement Harris in the press like the press the they they function like a like a pack of dogs and uh you know uh Caesar what's that guy's name the yeah Caesar Alon the the dog whisper has basically said to the dogs like we're going this way and that's GNA last for like a couple of weeks and that's going to that's going to influence all of the press coverage and there's no like it's hard to imagine what events between now and the election are going to change things like you don't have this simmering investigation of kamla Harris like you had Clinton you know like what's the October surprise going to be yeah um the it's conceivable that um the Gaza uh protests will increase because of the I mean Joe Biden was disgusting in responding to uh the killing of an American citizen by said you know pretending it's an accident everybody knows it wasn't an accident we have eyewitnesses who say it wasn't an accident um but you could see from this debate the the mainstream of this country thinks it's like you know one of 15 issues I mean you can also say like that's in part because of the what the what the med decides to cover right they they followed up three or four times on Ukraine um they barely followed up at all she gave the exact same an answer word for word almost like memorize that she's given about Gaza and I would love if we had a press that could ask her a few follow-ups like does your policy differentiate from Biden in any real way as it relates to Israel and arms um but that's not how things shook out but yeah I mean I think you're right it's just not the issue that's moving people even though I wish it was more Salient uh in part because we don't have US troops on the ground as it relates to I mean even more you know like I can tell you like even uh in terms of um when we did in in Iraq um it it was sort of um shocking how little the American public seemed to be sort of like engaged in that question um and do you see how they're trying to do the Swift boat thing not to bring up Taylor Swift againft but the Swift booat thing for Tim Walls and it's not working and then also the uh the they're trying to Benghazi Harris with the Afghanistan withdrawal and no one gives a no but you know it's very hard to make this stuff stick um and uh Kyle kinsky uh this is flum Dinger Kyle Kinski suggested the October surprise is Netanyahu launching an attack on Iran to drag Biden into war I mean that's why she's saying that stuff about Iran I I I think uh that is definitely possible but I think that's more like I think that's going to be more important to Netanyahu than it is in the context of this election um I think like you know one of the things that Harris projected tonight or Trump failed to you know make the case that she is not capable of dealing with our enemies which is a big you know or you know getting into a war I'm not suggesting that Iran is you know that we should you know be be viewing things in that way but I'm just saying that like this is you know this is what this is the American politics that we have and um one of the things that Trump should have done if he was like an actual like you know candidate was to try and make make it um uh seem like uh she's not capable of being commander chief I mean like the words commanderin-chief I don't even think they came up no like how bizarre this is because I don't think I've ever seen a presidential debate where with two candidates where the words commander-in-chief where like the president you substitute the the position of President and you use Comm commander and chief as uh the um the the title and that didn't come up I mean it's sort of fascinating uh it's such a weird he couldn't do it he could have done I mean he could have hit her on like in subtle sexist ways about her ability to be Kamala I mean comma and- Chief commanderin-chief right but he wasn't even able to get there because need you to Bea of the country um he he he wasn't even able to really pivot to any to any attacks towards her because he moved to immigration after every question which I think dilutes his strength in yeah makes him just seemed like he can't get off that subject he spent the first third of every one of his answers responding to a bait that KLA set in the immediate answer before and the storyline about immigration isn't going to be anything he said except for the one thing that's going to come out of this is the conspiracy about cats and dogs being eaten by Haitian migrants I will say I've now gotten three texts from family members about this it's apparently all over the internet people are making memes about it this is going to be the storyline because that's his biggest strength in terms of just like raw polling that's it's it's the immigration and the economy in that order on who's better and he just didn't capitalize on that at all I also suspect though from that immigration thing that one of the things that we're going to see like in like the focus groups right you know these things where they have like 10 12 Independents sitting in a room and they they talk about this uh we're going to see and and can you just run like put CNN on there even if we don't bring it up just so that we can see what's going on with uh um um the run on a problem instead of fixing the problem like again this is not my um they're factchecking Donald Trump this is that's going to go on for a long time but coming up is the focus uh group I want to see that um the the when she said run uh he's running on a problem that of fixing a problem that's the stuff that resonates with like I want to say like you know those 50-year-old guys I mean like and I realize like oh no but I think of like my stepdad's going to hear that and be like hell yeah that's I I sort of feel like that's the yes the um you know I can get over the fact I mean at least she's only doing 26% on the capital gains and um but he's crazy but he's chaotic she her point is right she wants to get things done not you know whatever I mean that's all pum in my estimation but a lot of people are going to respond to that and um because that's that's literally what they tune into here that's literally that like can we get along like it's they want they want the westwing and she delivered like that sort of like West wiy thing and I have to say though delivered in a way that wasn't you know quite as offensive as like I find the westwing oh yeah well I mean we're past that because in the west wing it would have been this is what we I maybe I said this to you off air um she didn't do any of the bipartisan stuff that's something that's interesting like I think the Democrats are past that because they don't necessarily feel like they need to capitulate to the Republicans on this front um they can basically just be partisan and not say I'm bringing the country together of Republicans and Democrats she didn't seem to go down that road which was the Biden kind of I don't know default um Eric Ericson tweeted you stupid uh mfers just got Trump to repeat your lie about the pets congrats on setting the news stories tomorrow by lying so Trump picks it up and says stupid when he says stupid mfers he it means uh Neo nais who originated the claim yes I pulled that clip for tomorrow we can watch that um here is uh here is a the Federalist is citing a police report about Haitians killing geese uh they have uh exclusive audio and police reports of Haitian goose hunting in Ohio Chris R thanks bro no we'll we'll see goose hunting I mean ass simulated to America literally every presidential candidate like I just have visions of John kery going out there with his stupid ass shotgun and his like you know LL Bean jacket to prove that he's a real man because he's bird hunting I mean it's like the elite version you've you've been hunting on the king's land sir the king owns that goose I swear Dick Cheney during his reelection literally shot a guy in the face when they were bird hunting wait so can we get back to the original tweet about what he was talking about there he says that there is a a oh my God so someone on Twitter alerted me to this there's apparently a UK right-wing conspiracy theory that uh polish migrants were killing the King or the Queen's swans have you this is like a version of what they were getting essentially like here and back to CNN or we can go back to CNN but this is like they've been copying the right in this country what the UK has been doing as it relates to trans people I wouldn't be shocked if they're picking up on like their migrant Insanity as well hunting is for Elites in the UK so that would make sense but I do like how in the UK version like there's that weird Royal worship that's how dare you uh Harvest an animal without the king's permission speaking Queen swans of Polish they reminded me of of her citing the 800,000 polish voters in Pennsylvania which I thought was sort of fascinating because um I wonder I'm really curious about that because she mentioned Trump using undocumented polish labor to build Trump Tower next time well well but but this is like she did that in the context of uh of uh of Russia and you know um implying there is Russian expansionist um uh you know Tendencies which I I think is certainly arguable since they just invaded Ukraine um but I would imagine if I'm in Poland too I'm very sensitive to that and um I wonder if so self-consciously saying that right like you would think if I'm polish and I have sensitivities to that I pick up on this in the conversation but I wonder if it doesn't sort of like enhance that intensity of like someone who is Polish who thinks like wait yeah maybe I should be paying attention to that in other states you mean maybe no in Pennsylvania and that too well I Pennsylvania is this is the bottom line I agree Pennsylvania is the entire election now because you see the numbers coming out of places like North Carolina and Nevada and Georgia if she gets Pennsylvania it there becomes like literally four other scenarios in which you can win Pennsylvania plus you know Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania Nevada uh North Carolina and Arizona um I mean the or you know uh Pennsylvania uh there ends up being like a multiple of things if she gets Pennsylvania so like so much of what her campaign is the fracking thing like she only addressed fracking right like that list of the thing the flip flops that's all she said I'm gonna be I'm gonna address everything that you have to say and then she just addressed FL uh fracking and then pivoted to Donald Trump yeah yep um so that seemed very mercenary for Pennsylvania in particular in the sense of like she's targeting that like they feel good about Michigan seemingly they feel good about Wisconsin's done um they're worried about Pennsylvania probably and they might feel better about North Carolina given the numbers that we're having like we're seeing come out of there with Mark Robinson consistently down by double digits to to Stein because he's so extreme so if she were to get Pennsylvania plus those States in like you know Michigan and Wisconsin which seemed more likely then it's over the race is over at that point so um that's what that's what they're banking on and so she's to say that stuff about fracking and then say like call out specifically Polish people in Pennsylvania once's the last time Polish people in Pennsylvania had a shout out in a presidential debate right I mean like that's the kind of thing that might circle around in families and Facebook groups that you wouldn't necessarily have happen in other situations so um she knew that the Trump campaign didn't have the discipline to make that remark and she went for it regardless even if it just plays to like 800,000 people W that's a that's big you know when you're in Pennsylvania you're talking a couple of votes I mean uh majority report wardrobe coordinator I saw this online but someone posted that Harris was aborting a baby in its 78th year right now oh um focus group uh isn't that uh oh Trump is on ABC that's what people are saying yeah I mean uh we can check that out you know what we should do I mean I think we're have to wrap this up because we're GNA yeah let's record this focus group on uh on our YouTube TV right there you know how to do that right um we should really wrap it up because we're going to be doing a show in 12 and a half uh 12 and a half hours uh tomorrow um we're gonna be talking about this everybody just started crying in the office uh we're going to uh be talking about this debate tomorrow we'll go through all the stuff uh folks um appreciate you tuning in uh we are live every day at noon and uh videos throughout the day oh there's JD Vance I can't oh let's just hear a little bit of what he said let's just see one second look I think it was President Trump it's not a sign of either frankly I do think that he had a great debate um we sort of hear the the the background noise here but look I I think with President TR hear the background noise he had to be sort of talked out of coming to the spin room after the first debate cuz he really wanted to and my guess is that he really wanted to come then he really wanted to come now this time it worked out and look he loves to talk to reporters because he loves to talk to the American people and I think it's been a consistent theme of his campaign is going anywhere going into hostile or friendly media he feels like he has to come in there because he lost the debate he knows it that whatever the format how you wanted it to go in terms of Harris clearly trying to get under his skin talking about crowd sizes talking about former officials like John Kelly and Mark esper and others I mean I heard from some Trump advisor who said he took the the debate too much do you believe that no look I think what we saw from K Harris was a lot of platitudes it was a lot of plans had no real need um Donald Trump is in that spin room for one reason and one reason only he knows he lost can I get extra credit I need to pass this class um I'm going to come out and say stuff so that we can actually move past I mean this is it's a smart play he wants to do stuff right now to get people off of thinking the debate about the debate he knows Turn the Page yeah I know we need to turn about the dogs the short the short bald guy trailing Trump I believe is Walt NAA who is the one of the people who was an accomplice with him in his classified documents oh my God he's still he's still in the crew yeah you stay close to me wal get over here you stay close to me um uh we'll be on tomorrow uh folks um you can uh subscribe to this channel if you haven't also go over and subscribe to uh youtube.com majority report live because that is our backup Channel and if you're subscribed to that you will get notices when we uh go live also uh we just wanted to say a quick shout out to uh Freer range Wine and Spirits here in Brooklyn they did a great job Furnishing us with some great uh wine they're on Atlantic folks check check them out they my favorite uh great store lior store great people there um well so who won the debate we know we everybody knows Taylor we need you to be mamala of the country and she was she was I who lost ABC yes ABC lost his mother ABC lost by having you know all of those uh by making us um you know do it on our uh our burner uh people uh Kowalski from Nebraska wants me to do the Dutch angle for the entire show tomorrow oh you should we'll cut to it at the opportune moments how about I just do it this way I'll talk to everybody this way um Bradley Matt Emma great job all day today uh folks we will see you tomorrow it might take all the strength I got to get to where I want but I know somehow I'm going to get there I wasn't looking when I just got caught between the truth and the light fall find it out won't make me feel any better yeah I know the clock is ticking but the mens are going to kick in and my pilot light shine Bri I get somewhere the choice was made for the option where you don't get paid for the road thats before finally breaks you I guess some I lost my dve between the one1 and the five do you know how far the detto takes you yeah

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