Tim Pool's 'Russian Asset' Drama Explained

people may not know what the hell is going on but here's a primer about the news that broke yesterday so the justice department released an indictment two Russian Nationals were named in this indictment and it says that right-wing commentators and they are referred to by as commentator 1 2 3 Etc but it's been a people have been easily able to discern who is who based on how many subscribers it's based on their subscribers right so this I mean the indictment here uh you can see is is laid out where uh you two Russian uh Nationals apparently according to to the doj uh were responsible for an a an operation an influence operation where they laundered money through a company called tenet which is based in Tennessee and spent nearly 10 million on efforts to influence public opinion by paying right-wing commentators to basically blame Ukraine and not Russia for Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine and the people who are named in this or not named but it's you can easily discern it and media Outlets have are uh Tim P Dave ruin just to name two Benny Johnson two also work together to deceive two Us online commentators commentator 1 and commentator 2 who respectively have uh and this is where it gets specific have over 2.4 million and 1.3 million YouTube subscribers I'm not sure which is which respective I think Ruben maybe 1.3 and Tim pool 2.4 think Ruben is it's the opposite oppos or it's the opposite also if you read if you read more it becomes very clear who each person is when you get down to who did what and what the deal was and what the terms are I I can tell you who every single person is I figured it out commentator one is Reuben commentator two is Tim P commentator three is Benny Johnson commentator four is Lauren Southern commentator five is uh Matthew Christensen or that Taylor guy and then commentator six is whoever there's two who are basically nobodies in our world uh who were like smaller right-wing creators and they're commentator five and six they don't really matter much other than the fact that they seem to be the ones who made the uh two Russian Nationals the most happy in terms of uh happily sharing stuff uh more susceptible honestly to this flood of money because this is just crazy let's pull up this this Twitter thread put together by this writer Ari kov kovler who uh kind of summarizes a lot of what um the indictment says so basically this in one of these two Intel agents um was a part of internal conversations with Lauren Chen and Liam Donovan uh and they determined in this part of the indictment how much they were going to pay Benny Johnson and Tim P can we can we click on the the this piece um we should add that Lauren Chen was uh is is in there as founder one her husband is in there as founder two they were getting paid they were getting paid they they later get paid something like $25,000 per month but before the media companies even launched they're getting paid uh $88,000 per month just to find right-wing influencers to convince them to join tenant so they're they're already getting paid at this point before those companies even launched Chen works for GL for the blaze for Glen beex company too so uh and and turning point USA so these tentacles are everywhere so kalishnikov who's not getting a taste I guess a daily wire I guess so right right I think that's true kalishnikov uh was one of the two participated in in US company one this is tenant right messaging group comprised solely of kalishnikov founder one founder two that's Chen and her husband uh and an individual purporting to act as a representative of us company ones investor Edward Gregorian who was in fact a fake persona as described Below in that mess messaging group kalishnikov uh monitor discussions of among other things tenants funding hiring and contract negotiations with commentator 1 and commentator 2 who as Bender has just identified are Tim p and Dave Reuben so flipped Reuben is one pool is two because it matters when you get to how much they were being paid and what their deal was yes which is fascinating because as you say um so Chen was recruit recruited here to uh or Chen was tasked by these you know Russian uh people and it does appear it does appear that Chen knows what's going on they they might have duped her with some of the fake uh uh aliases but it does appear that uh Chen and her husband are aware that this is foreign money based on where it's coming from is that time zone related uh issue Bender am I understanding that correctly how that's the circumstantial evidence toward that well they're getting paid from overseas companies um they're submitting their invoice through a Discord Channel um there there are very funny time zone issues like uh Edward Gregorian supposed to be in Paris yet he shows up in the zoom in a zoom meeting he was supposed to have with either Ruben or P an hour early uh and that's because it was and that's be like say he was supposed to meet at 9:00 am and it was like 8 am in Paris but he's in the room but that's because it's 9:00 am in Moscow so he got and then he explained it by saying oh sorry my calendar was out of sync from my travels or something like that of course course keep track of stuff like that like you know uh daylight savings is different in Europe too also the details behind the Edward Gregorian thing when I went through it I was cracking up it is by far the mo the most undercovered and most hilarious aspect of this whole thing so this Edward gorian fake name completely madeup guy there were he does not exist there is no like if you Google searched him nothing comes up and Reuben and P questioned that like they were really they were sort of at first sort of iffy about joining because they wanted to know more about Edward Gregorian and they did calls with who this a person purporting to be him I told you the time zone thing but one of the funniest things is Reuben de like he he's insisting on finding out more about Edward Gregorian he says he can't go forward until he learns more about Edward Gregorian so they make this like fake like profile like magazine glossy page type thing and it's in it's actually in if you scroll down in the indictment it's there and it has a little biography in the yeah there's a little Edward Gregorian biography and the biography is hilarious but there's a funny thing it's on page 13 um so I'll read along with it because it's really funny what Dave Rubin says uh just get to page 13 of that indictment and so I I'll read the summary while you pull it up so the summary of his profile is Edward Gregorian experienced Finance professional and investor deeply engaged in business and philanth and philanthropy leveraging skills and resources to drive positive impact supporting a range of organizations worldwide with a dynamic presence mainly in Brussels and London engaging in personal and professional Pursuits in each location with a focus on poverty alleviation free speech and advocating for social justice causes now here's the really funny thing so that profile should be suspect to anyone because it's so vague right it's completely but they almost lost Dave Rubin because Dave Rubin tells Lauren Chen after receiving this that he has a problem with the the Edward gorian profile specifically the reference to social justice he's got principles so Russia like was trying to like put together a profile of this guy and put together what seems to be like some that you see on LinkedIn throwing in like various you know how LinkedIn sort of summaries of these people are like cares deeply about social justice and and they put throw that stuff in there without realizing there there are keywords in there that would tell a conservative that something is off and so but he agreed to it anyway I mean they they they basically they had their issues with it but let's just get back to the the this part here about uh Chen um trying to recruit Benny Johnson and Tim p uh what's funny is that Tim P well maybe this isn't the one here okay Tim P spoke to a Russian asan pretending to be a Hungarian businessman on a secure call that's part of it but if you could scroll down to the differences and the discrepancies in who got paid what um oh that's what this H this was up okay um the Russians asked CH to recruit Benny Johnson and Tim P to make some content and offered 2 million a year each Johnson said he wanted $5 million pool demanded 100K per episode um and apparently that's what Benny Johnson ended up getting $400,000 a month for four monthly videos no that's no that's that's Reuben and um that's Reuben and P Ruben and P no I know well all right I'm I wonder I think thisy I think this guy I'm I'm coverer is saying that Benny Johnson is commentator one but I think but binder you're saying commentator one is no I'm pretty sure commentator one is Reuben okay okay that's the discrepancy here either way Tim got got a ra got the Raw Deal here with only 100K go on guys well I mean he's doing it for the love of the hustle you know he's he's in the right wing you know theal space for well P actually I I actually disagree I think P got the best deal because uh uh Johnson and Ruben both had to make videos specifically for tenant media that became owned by tenant media so four videos a week Ruben's doing four videos a week $400,000 a week so that's 20 that's $4,000 a month for four videos a week so that's $25,000 per video po however just had to do his culture War podcast that he was already doing but live streaming on tenant media and then still own the rights to the podcast he just had to do the live stream on tenet media and get $100,000 so P actually in terms of like the money the the the work money tradeoff he was doing the exact thing he was doing previously but getting an extra $100,000 whereas Ruben and Johnson had to make videos specifically for tenant media so this might be a good time to revisit the section from your debate with Tim P where he was trying to give us some Financial advice about how we should report there were a few things we could revisit we could revisit when he said that he was to the I was to the right of him on war because uh he was not supportive of uh funding Ukraine and their defense which is interesting but then didn't know anything about the top reian of our military he was definite about Ukraine and you know had to get back on you about our longstanding support for Israel for 75 years but that's not what we'll be playing here this was at the beginning of our exchange where we talk about the discrepancies in funding right-wing media versus leftwing Media yep and this accom compilation looks like it was made from the rational Nationals clip by uh at stolen Dan so there's a little bit of edits here but I think it's pretty pretty to the point part of what we do is we try to respond to some of the right-wing ecosystem on the internet because there's a vacuum truly left um you guys have a lot more money than the leftwing media space we just try to combat it a little bit I think the issue with that I can understand why you'd say that but it looks like this this is a great way to kick off the show actually like the start of the culture um I actually don't think the whatever this space has more money because this is a fractured independent space of varying ideologies Tim I'm in your compound right now yeah I'm rich Sam's had way more subscribers than me for a long right right and he's been and he just like he and I'm not saying this to be like mean I'm saying if he doesn't know how to turn Revenue the issue is more so you need like a CO or somebody who's going to say here's how we provide something to a market that generates Revenue business so we're we're uh better at that here I suppose is the easy way to put well no because what you say here is more attractive to investors and advertisers I mean we're basically only members and okay that seems like a lie what did he say at the end there we have no investors oh well I guess you it's not an investment if you just get a a fat check yeah we have people giving us uh grants for lies yeah right being yeah he's still 100K extra per week to just do what he was already doing he didn't have to do any extra work like the other guys he was just you know I who who wouldn't take that I mean I would probably be a little suspicious about the money because it is a lot I think that comes from you know having a very big ego not wondering where the money's coming from because even that glossy page they provided for like it just reads like crypto scammer like I would be concerned that if I saw that that this person is like a scammer of some type like they're a Tinder swindler they're a scammer they're in the AI startup space and that would give me a pause but I think you have to disclose it to your audience yeah like even if you don't even if they make no demands to it if all of a sudden I was getting $25,000 per video for something I'm going to let people know hey by the way like some weird guy uh you might know some changes around here yeah because a guy gave me a flyer with somebody on a private jet says he wants to invest in social justice isues um so actually don't worry about patreon anymore uh there's actually everything's going to be public um and uh don't yeah give your money to somewhere else because uh we're sad I'm making $400,000 on that's exactly what I was trying to say to him in the sense where like just by the nature of what he does he's more open to that kind of money coming in and that's it proved it exactly I mean what Benny Johnson making $400,000 a month that's more than double what that's crazy what I make I mean like is in a month in a month and then we're supposed to pretend like oh it's just because we don't have a COO over here that's the biggest issue well not not to gloss over Sam's lack of business capabilities but no no but but he would probably own that sorry Brandon go on Sam really needs to go out and find himself an Edward Gregorian that's what you're telling me I mean he's dropping the ball here no I mean I just like I personally want to congratulate them on their restraint because if I were getting paid that much it's like you said Matt I would have to you know disclose it because people would notice I've replaced my teeth with like solid gold shark you know shark teeth grills or something uh he new hat yeah I'm wearing I'm I'm showing up in the B $600 headphones like you you will notice some changes if all of a sudden I'm getting $25,000 or thereabouts for some YouTube video yeah I mean and there are other commentators that who've undergone some of those changes like Dave ruin is an example Dave ruin is an example that of of a guy that presented himself as a liberal and then saw that there was more money on the other side and he left tyt and he pursued that and he became a very rich person and so if you're a Russian organization that's trying to influence the the the way that people are talk commentators are talking about uh the war who would you go to except for like the guy that has basically been like I'm open for business this entire time and has been shown that he will change his entire political philosophy based on the money that's given to him it's incred you have you have to imagine that they realize that the audiences for people like this you know like Tim pool like Dave ruin are the most susceptible to that kind of propaganda right there is that kind of like feedback Loop where you know preaching the virtues of Neo neocolonialism neoliberalism conservativism you know across those like right-wing ideologies appeals to a certain kind of mind and those minds are the most pliable to the kinds of propaganda that foreign countries would want you know not only to you know not to mention that it just makes Americans mind more reactionary and pliable yes no Demian sorry writes in just to clarify wait does Emma make $200,000 a month no I meant that that was more than double than what I make in a year I don't even make $200,000 a year I'm trying I'm trying to if you if if you're willing to work with me if you're will to work with me there's a patreon uh back expanded discourse that you can go donate to today to make this happen I promise to get those sharp tooth grills yeah this is a huge problem in um in our media I'm looking for the uh the um video but it was a while ago over at the Vanguard Channel with Gavin and Zach but during the Co um stuff a bunch of different independent even Lefty Outlets were getting a large chunk of cash I mean you know not hundreds of thousands dollars but like a few thousand uh in their in their um patreons and the Vanguard guys said that that disappeared for them when they came out and supported like a strong public response to co and didn't deny it um so that is this is a this is a problem these dark money uh influence operations buying up Independent Media is a huge problem it is it is do we have that video also of Tim P last week talking about money that's being poured into media from different countries sounds like a little bit of projection here do they have a sense of that this indictment was being handed down so I think you know I was talking in the uh intro to the show about only fans I think a large component of what we're seeing is actually China Iran Russia and other countries funding this kind of disarray intentionally I would not be surprised if a large component of only fans contributions comes from China so I think China H just China I think it's funny that he points to only fans like uh sexually explicit content as being what's leading to the degradation of American society when it's just content like his you know he makes a different kind of pornography for a different kind of uh porn addict the same kind of shallow emotional gratification that some people get from looking at sexually explicit material like his fans from get from looking at a man and a beanie uh R interference for a genocide State I I also want to I I want to point out that I think a lot of people who who look at uh these stories of foreign influence especially from Russia and they sort of have it backwards in terms of like what's going on here a lot of people sort of look at it as like oh they're they're uh taking what uh you know Putin wants them to spread and they're spewing the propaganda but it really is the other way around like for example we know in this indictment based on the Justice Department's own investigation that someone like Tim P wasn't fully well well he probably should have asked more questions and been more aware of what's going on and where this money's coming from it doesn't appear like he knew exactly where it was coming from um but they don't need to get someone like pool to say what they want him to say like that wasn't the point of getting someone like a Reuben or a pool they were looking for people who already shared the vast majority of what they wanted to spread they didn't need to say anything and they were looking for someone like a ruin or a pool with a huge audience to bring people to that channel where there would be those smaller creators who would be doing exactly what they were asking them to do like Reuben and P were picked not because they wanted Ruben and P to say exact what they wanted them to say Ruben and P were picked because they were already saying exactly what they wanted them to say but that's how most conspiracies like this work you know that's how most of the manufactured consent that we see in our media works too it's like you wouldn't be in these positions to say these things if you believed differently and then you kind of keep chasing that you know not Dragon that's not the wrong right analogy but you keep you keep chasing those viewers you keep chasing that gratification uh by appealing to those people which can push you further to the left push you further to the right push you further into the pocket of big business of certain special interest groups and so yeah I could definitely see I could definitely see foreign countries looking at the kind of content that Tim p and Dave ruin make and like oh yeah we gotta like fund this you know we got to fund this it's you know I don't know is China behind Coco melon all the other stuff that makes our our society slightly more you know slightly less able to discern fact from fiction so yeah it's not still America's above doing in other countries either so right no that's absolutely true we definitely do um um and it's just interesting though like the it's obvious why Tim P the guy just shouting in hysterically the Chicken Little about Civil War all the time like yeah easy like we can we can support that yeah exactly um all right guys I'm going to open up the phone lines in case people want to call in uh 646 257 3920 uh let's read some IMS about this um gold Godless Heathen Tim Po says no Emma you don't understand I know other countries are funding propaganda I know they are uh Juniper J I think a good portion of only fans Revenue comes from the North Carolina gubernatorial candidate um no famously uh he was not paying for any of that he was seeing the he was watching the trailers so those are free so you go down the booth you just watch trailers all day and that's enough for some people I guess come from as long as you bring pizza for the guy upstairs uh you can go down and enjoy yourself in the booth apparently it comes from George Santos obviously obviously um Dan from Columbus says don't judge Benny for taking the bag he needs the money to be able to go on more cruises um I don't know what that's referring to but Benny is one of the dumbest people in space yes um severe LEF say oh how much I wish Sam was here to respond to the pool Ruben bombshell with you guys I mean we're doing this again tomorrow I hope you understand going be a longterm thing Calvin from waterf did Tim get back to you on Israel no no um no uh Tim has been smearing protesters as anti-semitic uh as you know the zionists I i' be curious I mean that's the other thing I'm curious about is how much Israel money is swimming around because I think probably doj is going to be less uh interested in that because that's an ally apparently um but I imagine probably doing some spending there too calling from a 773 area code who's this where you calling from if you're talking to me it's Tim's Dad I'm in Utah hey you hear me now yeah Tim P's is this uh Tim pool's actual dad well that's what the birth certificate said I'd have to ask his mom though to be sure well okay so can I yes this is this is Tim's dad I don't yeah I I've seen you comment before on our on on our uh on our show so I just want to this is the same Tim pool's dad that had had had commented before and we can't confirm this but says you and we'll we'll yeah exactly see your it's the same guy that um was happy with your response when you were on Tim show you know and that uh I argued calling you a PDF based upon your against book Banning was moronic but yeah it's me oh Well's I'm here to talk to you now I'm not going to crap on my son uh he's still my son I disagree with many of his Productions and if you watch I do have videos that address what I disagree with his Productions well so you do have a YouTube channel right um what what's your reaction to this story that essentially Tim seems to have gotten money via a unwittingly but uh from Russian Russian assets essentially who want there to be more anti- Ukraine uh content out there well most of the production on the right supports you know unfortunately you know what Russia wants to sell now me personally i' I go with the doj all right because what they're saying is these YouTubers Ruben and Tim contracted with a company in Tennessee that was owned by two Canadians now what's the due diligence expected to find out exactly where all the money comes from now I don't support his you know most of his products don't really concern me they're a lot of them are social things that don't really make a difference but when I hear you know um views on the lgbtq or when I see things about the Ukraine look the Ukraine didn't ask for Russia to invade so do I like money going out to Ukraine I don't like money going to is anybody when we have a$ 36 trillion doll deficit okay but if we don't stop Putin like we didn't with Crema he's going to be embolden so we have to at least support Ukraine or we're going to eventually put our own people on the ground and I don't support that but right now I'm looking at this from the doj's perspective and until they get a better look into the investigation I'm going to defer to them that all Ruben Tim and these other guys did was Take the Money and Run and Tim on his show said that he basically just licensed the production that he already does for them to show so people on the left or right are going to take their own viewpoints I hope to I'm trying to be impartial and non-biased when I deal with my son as when I deal with all left or rights I've gone into some left leaning Publications that I get called out when I actually give an unbiased look into it and they start you know fing me because it doesn't coincide with their Echoes and so I try to be true I try to be impartial I don't agree with a lot of his Productions and then I voice it now I don't directly attack the person I attack the production and when people start attacking the person like when Tim called you a PDF because you're against book Banning I'm like no you just lost the disagreement because now you're not addressing the individual topic you're going after the person so that's my viewpoints and that's where I stand on most of that Mr I got I want a question for you um his first initial response saying that he's in fact a victim of this what's your reaction to that uh do you think that's an advised way to uh you know respond to this well you know I mean PR is a big money maker in this world and if you don't respond properly you just hung yourself so calling yourself a victim probably isn't the way to go I mean that's that's acting like a victim has no control over what happens it's like when somebody says she asked for it because she had a high skirt well she doesn't come out and say she she's a victim because she wore a skirt so mhm yeah probably not the best choice of words but a lot of the times in his video productions I don't like his choice of words yeah but uh he's he's selling a product to people that want to buy the product so as long as he's not complicit with Russia I'm G not hang him I'm not gonna hang him well we don't want that either yeah I just am curious though me discredit permanently there's been a lot of money pouring in I guess for for Tim and for uh his you know I I obviously I went to his compound uh I saw where where he's at there I mean what's your reaction to how much money Tim has really been making in this space even though obviously you have some disagreements with what he's putting out there you know I can't comment to how much he's making I mean yeah he's he puts on his show and he shows a skateboard park I'm like me personally if I was making money on my videos I wouldn't be telling you how much I'm making I mean not to be you know hiding or anything but don't if you're if you're in a business and you're you don't tell the people giving you money to support your product that you're going out and spending it on a skateboard par or thing so I don't agree with him on showing it but I don't know how much he makes I don't talk to him about his money his business it's his I don't you know people challenge me on my P on my videos saying that I'm jealous of his success and I want his money and I'm like where do you think I live do you think I'm in the gutter somewhere or I don't need his money so what's your you know just well then people may ask Mr Po why why calling to our show Mike Mike mik mik well no because I watch your show and I put in comments you know sometimes and and and this is a discussion sure and I think a lot of people you know I don't like I mean ex I'm not who's the man with the beard I don't I'm l on names Sam cedar or Matt me right here then I'm Matt I'm Matt yeah yeah oh okay Matt seems pretty see I always listen to make sure that people are trying to be fair and and and not biased and you guys seem to present that pretty good and Matt is speaking fairly where most people are going to sit there and start you know calling Tim a complete Russian asset that he was raised in Russia something and slowly brought over to America you know but Matt saying pretty pretty fair you know and that's what I'm looking at I'm just like I don't want social platforms to be left or right I want impartiality and I want both sides of the story and Matt seems to be putting it out there in a fair in unbiased way so that's I thought I'd call in and put in my two cents because like I say I only go with the doj and and I get into arguments with my sons because they evidently go by a preponderance of the evidence when no I need def I need definitive facts before I hang you I'm not going to hang you based upon hearsay or things like that and that's why we disagree I'm more definitive legally based when I hang somebody right yeah I first of all I I appreciate the I appreciate that Mike and um you know I want to say that it from what it looks like just looking at the evidence and everything is just it it appears that that's the the the the the story that we know uh to be true as of right now and that is that people like P and Ruben were not told the full information now we can talk about how they should have gotten more information and they should have but with what they did know they did not have any idea that there was two RT employees at the behest of the Russian government working to uh basically build up this tenant media channel using Tim p and Dave Rubin and Benny Johnson's audience but like I did say I do think that they picked those individuals because they felt like that they had already aligned with their interests based on you know what they previously have said in videos definitely yeah I mean I'm not going to start buying somebody's videos unless they reference what I'm trying to sell okay so 100% And like I say that that's fair you know when I get out there I expect people to address the topic not because they dislike Tim or Ruben because of the products they sell and believe me I'm not I'm not going out there telling people I appreciate Tim and his uh podcast and his position like I say if if you look at some of the videos I think I I started a long time ago you know like a year ago and I put out a thousand I keep them short five minutes and I try to just give my perspective whether it's life in general or if it's addressing one of Tims I don't do it a lot but I just try to you know I'm a marine I'm a firefighter I got a few things in my brain that I might be able to share and that's what I do now in this instance I'm am I defending Tim am I being biased I'm just deferring to the doj now until they come out with the whole story Now quickly as a fireman we would be at incidents a fire and explosion car we'd get back to the firehouse and we turn on the news and guess what they're talking about where we just came from and they are totally wrong they're trying to be the first to address the topic to try to get you to zoom in and stay with their Channel and then eventually they get it right so I always kind of defer till let's get the whole story before you hang somebody that's all and you guys are seeing you know I like the way you report your pretty I mean you called him out for some you know idiotic uh questions but for the most part I think you're Fair on both sides of Defense when you address topics and that's why I'm actually talking to you I appreciate that uh Mike thanks Mike do you we we'll let you go in a sec but I just do you have a sense of does does Tim like your videos do he appreciate you know you calling has he ever mentioned them at all into the show yeah does he mention them I mean I know that I don't think he has very uh kind feelings about myself or Sam uh or or Matt Bender for that matter um so I guess I'm just interested what his perspective is on you watching our show and calling in oh I don't discuss pilot I got into an hourong you know disagreement with my other son you know going back and forth over alternate or fake electors and luckily my hike didn't take me long at all because I didn't realize where I was but yeah I mean we don't discuss you know his topics he Pro I don't even know I asked him once if he knew I had a you know my own video production I don't think he I don't think he pays attention to things that really aren't impacting him and I mean he is pretty busy pushing selling doing his things and more power to him he's created something and now if if he owned a gun shop I don't think I'd be happy with him selling guns but it is a product that people buy so am I going to hang him because he's producing something that half of the people want to listen to unfortunately I've have always questioned where does the money come on both sides you can't divide America unless you have two sides and we have both sides and um i' you know maybe we need to look at see where all the money comes in I don't know whether it's revenue from the video productions if it's donations you know because you have memberships now and usually I don't even go to a place if I can't comment without paying a membership I move on I hear you all right I like you guys yeah well thanks so much for the kind words appreciate it and where can people find your YouTube channel uh Mike Tim pool's Dad it's just 's Dad Tim pool's dad all right awesome I say I aggravate a bunch of people and I I love dealing with the ignorant trolls that attack me personally rather than the topic because it's so easy to to base do you do you hear from Tim's audience uh and and and are those the types that you're talking about like do they get angry that you disagree with your son on political topics oh yeah they're the ones that call me and say I'm jealous of his success and a lot of times I'll actually go into his his video productions and then I call out the the stupid people that are making stupid comments and they just love that I mean you know they'll you know I'm just saying like they'll say something like the the the alternate electors why is that criminal well because State didn't pick them they decided themselves so they are fake by Statute not by my interpretation and that's when they call off saying oh he just you just don't you just want his money and I'm just like what are you insane I mean you know and and I did a video the other day about success you know because they're comparing me they say well elon's more intelligent and successful than you I said well first off you don't know me you don't know him so you don't know how intelligent we are and second success is a a sub objective interpretation so you know I've got everything I need I got a wife a beautiful wife my dog my family I talk to so for me being a marine and a for firefighter yeah I think I've been pretty successful in my life and I think I think people you know are more honorable life than Elon Musk what I'm just saying is you know when I finally take my last breath I'll remember all the people I was able to help when they were in their worst possible situation and I'll find comfort in that as I close those eyes that's and that's what I find as being successful my kids are killers they're not in prison yet so I'm going for that so far there you go there you go well I appreciate the sentiment and thank you for being so open-minded and calling in and giving us your perspective on on what's Happening and for listening with Tim and and for listening yeah of course well like I said your Crews and everything seem pretty pretty fair I haven't had anybody mfing me yet in the um you know in the comments or anything and like I say you know your perspective doesn't have to match mine and that doesn't mean one's wrong and that's what I try to explain to people you can see something from a different side than me we can have different perspectives but it doesn't mean either one of us are wrong we can discuss it and determine why they're different that's all precisely but here here but I appreciate you guys I do think you are I think you are a truthful organization um that puts out counter you know thoughts and you know the problem is here we can't discuss to find out how to fix the problem we just want to throw rocks at the other people for having a problem and we're not going to get anywhere until we finally decide to address the problem in a manner to try to fix it rather than making money by Ving it back and forth and I'm not crapping on you guys I'm just saying this is the way it goes we go back and forth and now you're going to have people on the left having a shark F frenzy on Tim you know calling him you know a Russian asset and a Russian bot and all this because that's the way we're going rather than address the problem so I want America to get off their dumb butts and get back to where we used to be and discuss the problem without trying to rip somebody's Tracy out because they disagree with us agreed thank you so much uh for calling in well thank you guys for uh taking my time I've tried calling him before but I never get through the uh well some of our our our our viewers uh alerted us that you were trying to call in so I'm glad that uh oh no yeah Autumn was Autumn was great yeah moderator thank for mods Autumn was putting it out yeah she Autumn was put I don't know gender or anything but Autumn was putting out the shop pretty good thank you appreciate it Autumn thanks uh thanks Mike have a good one thanks autum no thank you guys and stay stay truthful thank you appreciate it thank you so much what a great call I uh great call I I enjoyed uh Temple's dad uh having kind words for for the whole show but also me specifically uh I should I should grab that quote Matt binder very truthful and just put Temple's Dad it's like on my website we may not be on the same page politically but it was very funny go ahead Bron no I just saying we may not always be on the same page politically with Mr Tim pool's dad but that sure was funny so exactly but we can find consensus he he he I what I thought was amazing was uh he he was very uh careful about Autumn the moderators uh he didn't know their gender and so he he was careful about that something that timpool would not be a fan of doing he wouldn't he wouldn't deal with that yeah no I I think you know if we learned one thing it's that uh it's not uh uh the fault of the parent when Tim F makes him a mistake or goes down some sort of a reactionary uh thing it's on on our boy Tim himself yeah but I mean I also think it's indicative of the kind of people who listen to Tim pool like they're not reasonable even reasonable cist they're you know they far right uh they far right ideologues yeah children who are being radicalized into this very young and that's why the money is Flowing to these people because that's like you get them while they're young while they're young I'd be interested to see if Russian money was going to any those manosphere podcasts or maybe it's Chinese money yes that would be interesting to see um there there's a lot of money sloshing around uh that I think you mentioned earlier that antix money that some people were offered and some seemingly took yeah Independent Media is massively uh important and it has had an incredibly uh big impact uh on the world uh you know I think the way the American people have reacted to what's going on in Gaza is in part responsive of that and you know Mexico has had its own sort of things like that we talked about with Kurt and stuff but um yeah like I don't know it's it's um it can be bought cheaply um and there are like a lot of those manosphere guys I can't remember what their names are but the ones that appeared on Tim pool fresh and fit yeah like one of the like money issues severely like when that when that stuff comes public if I'm a rich person and I see oh that person has a p platform and also might be way behind on their taxes yeah uh that is a cheap asset and I would uh point to Russell Brand is somebody who I think has been entirely bought uh because he had grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle and then a certain level of opportunity dried up and all of a sudden he's performing for Ronda santis um uh Ward Gregorian says please ask Mike why his son wears a beanie uh between the one1 don't get into politics Tim's dad holy uh Mr spith twitch very cool and surprising how much love y'all got for from Tim pool's Giga Centrist dad um crusty trombone Tim pool I think you mean Mike pool's son um R in Kentucky it's crazy that Tim's dad listens to Mr the amazing Grand it's important for Mr Coastal Elites to experience a proper Midwest goodbye assume Matt's a little homesick now I guess that was the in reference to the call who did the Midwest goodbye I don't understand I guess I guess Mike okay um oh can't say goodbye is that Midwest goodbye I don't even know that uh DSA aren't in Atlanta so Tim's dad is cool as um damn from Columbus my previous I IM about Benny and cruises was in reference to him complaining on Twitter that he was getting targeted ads for gay cruises on the military times or something like that that's hilarious what those are suggested advertisements by the way on your browser history yeah it's why show like running shoes um hog Town Ruben and pool sounds like an 80s Pi procedural like Simon and Simon or Jake and the fat man it is it just does make it interesting that he was so defensive about Dave Rubin why you guys so obsessed with fellow tenant stablemate Dave Reuben yes leave fellow tenant stablemate Dave Rubin alone commie tree $100,000 per week is just a very committed subscriber I'd like some of those committed subscribers I'll tell you that um meaningless poll no signing bonus for Tim he still doesn't have a lawyer even after that lawsuit a few months ago where he falsely identified a mass shooter and he tried to represent himself oh that's still I he settled out a court didn't he I can't remember well there's a few there's a bunch of legal issues with him including the one he announced yesterday where he's suing the KLA Harris campaign um I think yeah we did and I think maybe his council is like hey let's try to focus on uh the actual massive problem that is going to drop tomorrow instead of uh suing KLA Harris's campaign Meg MCA please someone give Russian uh Tim a Russian doll nesting please someone please give Tim a Russian nesting doll of the Mr staff it'd be great to have a a Tim pool Uh Russian nesting doll but you just take off like the beanie on each of them and that's where the split happens um Hogtown work Sushi and Putin with the boys hey folks don't forget to hit the Subscribe button and check out our daily show we do it every day at 12:00 p.m. Eastern for about 2 and a half hours we even take phone calls you should check that out