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Intro oh [Music] [Music] yeah I decided to go early why not well because I'm on the huge show today from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. I wanted to get this stream in before so I am not late for the the show today from 3: to 6 local area it's 96.1 FM the huge show on ESPN or you just search the huge show and I'll be live today from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. if you want more and more Lions content that's why I'm going early want to get out of there we got a s gray in the building what up do Kurt Casper what up do we are going to be doing Detroit Lions news and rumors as we all know that's what we do here we have a good time doing so let's just get into some quick information really quick we're going to start with injuries here um Teran Arnold it's not serious jir Gibbs it's not serious Andis rraw it's not serious henen hooker practicing is going to play on Saturday that's great news Carlton Davis hamstring it's not serious a lot of not serious injuries and that's great for the Lions that's great for the Lions there so again don't worry about the injury front as of right now yeah folks are starting to get banged up but they're not serious they're dinged up type of thing what's going on there many Splendid afternoon to you as well as everybody out there for sure what's up nine drinks in the building appreciate you guys jumping in for sure other injury news in the NFC North JJ McCarthy out for the year after suffering a significant injury that sucks for him as the NF the NFC North continues thank you for that Dragon fan Tim do you think that we should get another wide receiver I think we will get another wide receiver we're going to wait for cuts I've been saying if somebody doesn't stick out it's going to be probably Robert Woods if he gets cut from the Houston Texans so yes I have Absolut no problem them going that the Lions waved Maurice Norris nothing significant there for sure standouts in Camp Jared G looking great as usual Brian Branch looking amazing as usual lot of St Brown Jameson Williams all looking good we don't know at this point if the lions are going to play some of their starters on Saturday we don't know I would expect I well at least here here's my thought I I think that the Lions should play some starters I'd like to see Marcus Davenport out there because I want to see what he can do but when it comes to like the St Browns or the Jared goffs of the world I really don't need to see them in the preseason I just don't it's a 17 Game season it's long do you really want to put any sort of more bangs on these guys that are doing it all the time then you got the postseason and remember the lions were late in the postseason last year so they're not as rested as other players in the NFL world we went on the fcam championship game the only team that only two teams that have more is Kansas City and San Francisco so the Lions is got to be very smart when it comes to giving some of these guys some rest and I get I know you want these guys to be ready to go there is no rust by week one but these guys been doing in training camp I I trust Jarry gof St Brown I trust these guys not going to have rust but because they're just they continue to dominate it's what they've been doing dominating they just Domina it has not changed yesterday this hasn't changed in a long time they just continue do what they do so we know what we have in those guys that's just the bottom line so when it comes to me and I look at the situation I'm I I don't need to say Jared go what do you guys think should you do you guys want to see jarro go on Saturday do you want to see St Brown playing on Saturday I personally don't don't need to see it I I don't think they'll have rust I think they're good to go already but let let me see your thoughts in the comments Below on this one because that's that's the way that I see it but again I'm not excluding all starters I think again I'd like to see Marcus Davenport Levi Rique out there I'd like to see Jack Campbell get some more playing time obviously if Teran Arnold's dinged up or rres dinged up they don't need to play I I don't want I want them ready for week one but if they can't play they do need the Reps head and hooker can't wait I didn't think he'd play on Saturday he's going to be playing on Saturday and and Sai says nope they're good and proven I agree with you uh hen hooker I want to see him out there I want to see him getting some reps I want to see Jake fr getting some reps I want to see Nate subfield on the sideline holding a clipboard but that's not going to be the case because it is pre-season we uh everyone saying Juju Smith Shuster I again I'm I would be waiting for Robert Woods if he gets released over there from the Houston Texans or other wide receivers that could be available Woods makes the most sense there you got a continuity Jared G I think it would be a situation of Josh Reynolds 2.0 with Robert Woods I think that'd be the smartest way to go if released what should the Lions do for number three wide receiver kif Fran's your number three so number four I think that the lions are going to battle it out again uh for this preseason game but if no one sticks out wait for cuts I think that's the biggest thing that's going to be taking place is just waiting for other teams to make Cuts right there uh for wide receiver four and because no one's standing out you got to do it but again a lot of this does go on the quarterback and subfield was so bad it's really difficult to judge some of these guys so we really cannot wait for Live Action with a different quarterback to see if someone can separate themselves it's funny they talk about someone's got to separate themselves will you have subfield is your quarterback it's hard to do anything when he is so bad it's hard to judge it's irritating get rid of subfield he sucks it's just it's the plain and simple he brings nothing to the table I don't he he's making it difficult for these wide receivers and we can't judge it if you ain't got a competent quarterback give him the football a niney out route and he misses them by two yards anybody can make that throw it's unbelievable it's absolutely crazy Lions went following yesterday subfield never hit a pin yeah he he subfield is the definition of 710 split that's what he is if you think of think of of of him it's a 710 split again folks I'm going to be live on the huge show from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m today that's why I'm going live a little bit early right now uh so that I can get everything out we're going to still do the mailbag segment and all that lovely stuff here in about 15 minutes and we'll we'll get after but we're just talking about right now updates from training camp and winners let me get the roster really quick and we're going to go through each player and I'm just going Roster Update to give you my winners and losers for each each player right now let me let me get this thing up got to be able to see it really quick and we're going to go through each player I'm just going to say up or down that's what I'm going to do here let me get to the teams who I think is going up or down let's get after it we're going to start at the quarterback position Jared gof up S subfield down H and hooker up Jake fromom we don't know yet it's it's a nothing right there so up down even David Montgomery up jir Gibbs he's dealing with the hamstring but he's great up Craig Reynolds is Craig Reynolds up caki up lions are great at running back don't have an issue right there they're good wide receivers Aman Ross St Brown up Jameson Williams up khif Raymond equal we know what he brings Donan peoples Jones he's had good he's said bad moments trayquan Smith down I have not even heard of him does he exist I want know in the comments section does he exist Tom Kennedy it's Tom Kennedy he's not making the team Darice Fountain I'm going to say down right now he's got to prove it on Saturday the guy who I've been talking about has got to prove it Isaiah Williams significantly up marce Alexander down T's not making the roster Kaden Davis up Jaylen Calhoun up Antoine green is iard there you go from that position let's get into the tight ends Sam laor is always going to be up he's dealing with an injury Brock Wright normal we know we have him he's exactly that Shane ziler up James Mitchell down left tackle Taylor Decker always good fine up Dan Skipper we know we got them equal Giovani Manu down project player so we need to look at tackle right that's a position I think we should look at Graham glas go great kodua just fine Duke Clemens who Nan mudy IR not bad I think the lons are fine at the guard position even the backup guards it's more the tackles Frank ragn now is Frank ragn now Michael N who Kingsley igin okay Hudson you're not making the roster so not bad there from Center and you got Graham glasow is going to be the backup Kevin zitler perfectly fine mahogany up yay yay he's going up all the way up because he's back from being sick huge shout out to Christian mahogany Jake Burton who pan Su up kby sdale down again we're talking about the tackle position he's got to prove it it's a big game for him on Saturday jamarco Jones who Connor Galvin iard Aiden Hutchinson significantly up we're seeing a him taking Elite status this year alen mcneel up always great DJ reer down because he's been out Marcus Davenport we don't know anything on him that's why we want to see him on Saturday James Houston I'm gonna just say we don't know question mark Kyle Pico up Levi musque trending significantly up Josh Pascal trening down we haven't heard anything from him that's a down he's got to make this is year three for Joshua Pascal this is it for him if he still doesn't do anything this year that's been three years of of nothing Mitchell good I would say right now down a little bit there's more hype in in in practice but didn't show anything that much game day bro Rick Martin up Makai Wingo up Isaac uku up the Lions defensive interior the defensive tackle position is really good it could be I think it's the strength of their team at this point the interior alen mcneel DJ reer Kyle Pico Levi musque brck Martin McKai Wingo that is a ridiculous Talent at DT a ridiculous amount of talent lions are very good at the dep at the defensive tackle position Matthew Betts Down Chris Smith who pat pat o getting cut John Kaminsky out due to injury Jack Campbell he's got to show himself I want to see a lot of him on Saturday he's got to go out there and prove it at the mic we talk we hear that he's making some he Mak great plays but he's also making some mistakes Alex anzelone starter up Derek Barnes starter always up Jefferson up somebody that stood out significantly in the first game of preseason we're going to watch him Malcolm Rodriguez is malcol Rodriguez we kind of know we have him with him is all equal Ben neum okay we'll just go okay jayen Reeves May been up Abram blue pin cut khil dorsy up CJ Moore I would say equal but down because everyone else is is starting to produce Brian Branch significantly up taking a significant Advantage Carlton Davis I would say equal and a strik draw up autu melaan Wu normal we know exactly we have with him Kirby Joseph is Kirby Joseph Brandon Joseph huge up this guy's making the roster and he continues to make noise with turnovers Teran Arnold injury we know he's got there though so I'm going to say up kindall vildor up he had a great practice yesterday Steven Gilmore up it's going to be hard with these Corner positions ziek Robertson significantly up Manel Mosley is injured Jake Bates up even though he missed an extra point yesterday he is up Jack Fox great Jack Fox always great khif freman great Craig Reynolds great Donovan peoples Jones is a k is a punt kick returner e khil dorsy up so that's my list right now in the comments that I got going on there kept to the lines the backup Colin Kaepernick is not going to be a backup quarterback how long how long has he been out he is not going to be playing quarterback it's not happening we're still going to get message 10 years from now that is he going to be a quarterback 20 years or no he's not going to be playing in the NFL as a quarterback let's see yeah been a while since we've had this much depth for sure yeah for sure and then we still got some issues right wide receiver depth tackle off offensive tackle depth Edge depth that's really it um I think that the depth is really good all around we're going to be talking about that on the huge show today I guarantee he's going to talk to me about wide receivers talk about quarterbacks Jake from State Farm we're going to be talking about a lot of that so again we're going to be live for the huge show and that is the bottom line because Mike Row said so let's go ahead and get this thing going on here folks let me get my setup for you really Mailbag really quickly and be good to go right hither all right let's get this thing started folks we're doing the mailbag segment here folks we're doing the mailbag segment here we got questions that's coming our way and I'm going to try to answer them for you so if you got questions that want to be answered time now to do so it's the mailbag segment so throw me questions I'm going to look at it give you my answer any question you want that is what it's all about and before you guys throw in questions as I'm going to be waiting for it right now I'll do a question to myself and we'll add the conversation going should the Detroit Lines look to trade for Edge rusher whatever you want to call him player of Hassan reik of the New York Jets first off he was traded from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Jets this off season and guess what he demanded a trade for the Jets why because he's not getting paid rumor is around $24 million that he wants a year so should the Detroit Lions trade for Hanan reck what do you think it would take to get him I don't think that the Lion's going to do it at this point I don't believe so because of the money I think they will not do that that's just that that's my personal opinion here so I'm going to say I don't believe they trade for Hassan right I do not believe so we got another question here and I sent it let me see if I can get this thing is doing a bottom right no we got to do the big one the big uh comment okay we're going to Trend it here again question s to me here what do you think of the judon trade third round Livestream pick to Atlanta Falcons um I wasn't too high on getting Matthew Jun on anyways uh so I'm fine with it it is what it is if I miss your question throw it in the comment section again and here we go with the live stream yes we are live streaming today let's see what do you think of vuku I want to see more from him Bo Booth so I want to I'm watching him for Saturday so far so good but if he's going to make the roster he's got to really impress because there's a lot of veterans on this team so I I don't care where somebody is drafted undrafted at all I just care prefer what they produce so I just want to see more from him on on Saturday so I'm excited to watch that when do you see the reader starting the defensive line I you know maybe you know I was thinking week one but it could go into a couple weeks after that so look we just really need him for the playoffs in the postseason so wait till he's 100% ready but maybe I'm now I'm I was thinking week one I'm going to say maybe push it to week four that's what I'm going there let's see next question here Go Lions any undrafted free agent you like so far any undrafted that needs Improvement first off my player I like is Isaiah Williams undrafted in the comment section right now who is your favorite undrafted player I like what I saw from isaah LS right now look he made the best of the situation of this past preseason game with that said it was against the scrubs so maybe give him a level up put him in with the twos on Saturday see what he can do right there Mitchell a good I like him now he's not this year's last year's undrafted I like so far what I've seen I want to see him more than on game day I want to see what he can do on the field out there so those are some of the guys that I am looking for Miss Karen P Porter if I miss your question again repost it my special question Mike Kimber I am definitely wondering if Detroit Lions will be using their starters against Kansas City Chiefs miss Karen Porter I don't know the situation of that right now I have not heard either way don't know um if if they do starters I would say just one series but right now I honestly don't know I don't know so I I I wish I had an answer for you this one we may have to wait till nearly game day again if you want a question answered put hashtag in front of there hashtag Lions I can see it I can then read it hashtag hashtag hashtag it really helps me out what are you saying the New York Giants are in the oldest team in history I what I want to talk about the Giants here let's see who do you like as rb3 everybody knows I love Craig Reynolds but I'm take CI vaki I think he has a more of an upside either way doesn't really matter I like all four running backs but I will take vaky at this point what are your thoughts on Arnold and Rik Straw from the first game awesome awesome I I think Rik straw really impressed me probably the most because he's improved so much in training camp every game every practice is getting better Teran Arnold we expect greatness uh pretty quickly I weren't expecting greatness this early and so he's looking really good so I'm very proud he's excelling faster than I thought he was and that's and that's a testament to his uh learning capability already answered that question if you had to pick an area of regression from last year what would you say I'm going to say it's wide receiver for three um I really like Josh Reynolds last year I was a big proponent of bringing him back you know and um right now we're having issues right there what's up Don the goat bur should I eat a Hot Pocket or tubbies Sub sub go Viewer QA with to sub bro and if you like to sub you can do that to this channel as well subscribe to the channel but most importantly we got 131 in the chat let's get to 50 likes right now 23 likes away from 50 if we get to 100 we'll do an Ultra Combo smash that like button again if I missed your question just repost it on not being a prick biggest threat to the Detroit Lines in the NFC North I'm going to go ahead and see the Green Bay Packers in the NFC San Francisco Darkhorse Atlanta Falcons they're a Darkhorse team I've been saying it all off season they're Dark Horse let's see Lions who are you looking for to perform against the Chiefs Jake Bates CI vaki henen hooker Jake fromom uh if Marcus DAV out there I'd like to see him I really want to look at him Jack Campbell and it's hard and I just say the backup offensive line the backup offensive line that's what I'm really really looking forward to will Jake Bates be the kicker well he's the only kicker that we got so far so I'm going to go with yes I mean could they pick somebody up they could but I'm just so with right now yes yes you cannot trade an injured player that is 100% correct let's see predict for Hutch's sack count this year I'm going to go with above 15 that's what I have right now 15 and we're 14 likes away from 50 14 away will Jake Bates be our kicker this season I toy soldiers I just said I do believe he's going to be the kicker at this point because we haven't got anybody else what are your thoughts on Caleb Williams debut will he pose a threat to Lions defense well he's a a dual threat quarterback in which the Lions have had issues in that area I don't think he's a better dual threat though than Justin Fields I think Justin Fields is way better in his Mobility but I think Caleb Williams is way better as passing the football so they both bring Dimensions to this team uh I think they're they're going to be a Caleb Williams going to have really good games he's going to have some games going to make Brookie mistakes that's the type of year he's going to have but uh this year is he a threat I think they're going to get like nine wins so that's a threat I don't think the Lions are Going to sweep the Chicago Bears I don't think the Lions sweep the Packers um I just don't I think the Lions will sweep the Vikings I think the Vikings are in our world to hurt and Addison just got hurt they lost JJ McCarthy Sam darnold's going to beat their quarterback one you know but I I think those other two teams are good do you love seeing jets in the cowgar drama like I do yes I do because you know these organizations they're not thinking they're just making moves and they're not thinking about it you know you're going to trade for Hassan reic but Hassan reck wanted a deal when he got traded and they decided not to do a deal that's a dumb decision that's terrible you're going to trade for a guy who wants a contract and then you don't give him one that is dumb right and then you see what the the Cowboys over there the cowg girls like you say it CD lamb situation jera you got Micah Parsons there's a lot of issues do you think Gibbs gets a thousand rushing and receiving I say a th rushing not receiving that's a lot to expect him to get a th receiving um that's quite difficult I'll go with maybe like four to 500 yards receiving but double thousand just there's there's only so many balls that can go around what's up Mike do you think that Levi will be a starter um right now it's going to be DJ readers on the depth chart as a starter but I don't think he's going to start week one so yeah I give Levi newer but when DJ reader is back it would be the the opposite right now yes let's see besides golf who is the one injury that would hurt our our season the most oh man I I think if you lost Taylor Decker a pan that would hurt the lions were built in the offensive line that'd be devastating at this point I truly think so I want to have a bet with Kimber you say north of 15 I say 15 or less for Dinner For Show Hutch dinner bet and you wear a costume rockon t-shirt hey love it brother hey we got to get you on here too uh rockon uh will rock subscribe to rockon Detroit Lions my man over there is doing some big things um take the bet for sure uh look I I love I love this and I think it's I first off dude I'll wear your shirt without the beted if you send me a shirt or whatever I'll put it on I'll wear it um I wear out Lions D night shirt on so if you want to do that for sure I'll do but dinner for show I don't know where you live man I live in West Michigan but uh maybe if I go up to Detroit for a game we can meet up he have a meal I'll buy hey I'll buy for show I'll buy for show I have no problem with that especially if I lose definitely would do that so let me know brother him DM DM me up on H Twitter we can make it like and I could go on your your stuff too um I am not a morning person I that's why I'm not I I get up I'm so may we can record something day before something if you want to but uh for sure brother for show let's see most important regular season game of this season it has to be San Francisco right San Francisco and Detroit are going to be battling out for the number one seed you need that you need to win that game so you you hold the tiebreaker then that's huge um that's absolutely huge right so we got to win that that tiebreaker let's see are you going to doing a live game stream Saturday C yes sir I do every single game unless I am at the game but I'm trying to oh Gun Lake yeah or Gun Lake oh for sure okay um May you know what would be cool bro hey see if we can get in Gun Lake and I I I'm sponsored by saurin eagle but if you get sponsored by Gun Lake we could do like a dual live stream there that would be epic um that would be fun but yeah I I stream all the games unless I'm at the game and I'm working on right now to see if I can stream at the game with Herm at Ford Field that's what that's what I'm trying to do there that's quite difficult though because the pr is they don't there's a lot of things issues there see are you comfortable with our opposite pass rush of Hutch has there been any positive feedback on bets s gr what's up brother um I'm still concerned about the opposite of edge you know I am concerned I haven't seen like we hear about Marcus Davenport I'd like to see it right um but uh I am concerned right the depth there I was concerned last year I'm concerned this year it's still the same questions the wide rece I call it wide receiver four I know they say three but I say four so with that the dep at Edge and and anything that sunfield uh is around I'm very uncomfortable with him sounds good brother reach out um suaki getting regular season carries yes he will yes he's going to get regular season carries I'm not say it's going to be not going to say it's going to be a lot but uh he will get some some carries this year just because he's good and special he's going to be on special teams I would suspect he's probably going to be one of the main guys doing that with the new special teams Rule and how juky he is I think that would be a that would be perfect for him too right because now it's almost like a glorified running back that you're doing these weird kick returns that they got going on now in the landing Zone sounds like we're in an airport but uh yeah I think for sure you just ordered your SFI Jersey my God if James you send me a picture of this you and I will post it on here bro you wearing a sunfield jersey I would laugh my a off you have got to do it sounds good bro can't wait man cannot wait um I know your buddy reached out to me too on Facebook um and so yeah anytime man just hit me up uh Facebook or or Twitter DM I I am I think I'm following you on Twitter you have to follow me back though for the DMS let's see let me see I don't even know man let's see will rock so oh there you're following now man so yeah just DM me brother and we will get that thing going Steve Lyin says hello Mike do you think that Jake FR will stick around hinek tanah Hill probably not I really don't think he's going to stick around um no I think he's holding the holding this down for for preseason purposes that's what I believe that's that's my personal belief on this one is he's holding it down for that random prediction for a player that the Lions could reasonably pick up at Random Prediction the trade deadline this year Well we don't know what teams really is going to be buyers nor sellers at this point so it's really really hard it is I mean we have to wait till we're getting close to the trade deadline to know this just because you think A team's going to be bad does it necessarily they're mean they're going to be bad there's teams that you think are going to be good that are going to be bad so I I don't know I that is impossible to for me to say right now and making a trade deadline trade Lions generally are not extremely aggressive like Donovan peop Jones we traded for him was a six round pick okay they're generally they didn't do a Montes sweat a second round pick trade they didn't do a a Chase young I think he was a third round pick I can't remember so it's it's really impossible for me to predict something like that now if you're talking about players who get released from teams that's going to be really intriguing because we there's going to be some veterans that's released that the Lions could pick up um there's going to be players that get placed on the waiver wire and unfortunately the lions are going to be at the very end of the waiver wire on that uh so Robert Woods is someone that I've been saying if he's released that makes great sense for Detroit or the Lions could like if he's going to get released the lions trade a conditional seventh round pick or something like that right to get a guy um so if I were to say I know what they're going to do I'm BS that would be BS and lying to you I have zero knowledge of that um and I have no reason to just say something just to say something um let's see random prediction for a player I did that one which rookie is a better season racer or Arnold oh tyan Arnold's gonna have he's going to be on the field unless he's injured he's gonna be in the field the whole time basically um so it's going to be tyon Arnold and R Ro gun's a backup he's not a starter and amek Robertson is playing a amazing right and he's a nickel uh and then you got Carlton Davis be the outside so I'm going to go there but make no mistake about it I love R draw he's higher right he's in a position that I thought is he's doing much better than I predicted and that's all you can ask for right that's what's oftenly I'd love to meet you Mike on day one at fordfield regular season game hey I like I'm trying to so that's what we're working on right now but you got to understand it's really it's quite difficult to to be able to stream or something from a game uh or to be on the sidelines of that nature you need more hookups than I don't have I I I got uh my guy Herman Herman Moore but he doesn't work for the Lions organization folks he doesn't he's an alumni um but he's not like he's a Lis Brown that works for the Lions right or he's not a Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson that works he is great but he likes to be separate from the organization so he can be biased when you're talking about the Lions cuz he doesn't want to be biased it looks like hooker is playing on Saturday and I truly hope that he U Combo does I think that that's awesome man I would love to see him out there again get those likes up let's get to 100 likes we are close there we are close 46 away from that big old number of 100 we'll do an Ultra Combo did from get picked up because of hooker injury or subfield looking hot garbage I think both I think it's a mixture of both um injury to H and hooker and Nate studfield is absolutely hot garbage I was listening to Jack or to Dan Campbell after the game and when he talked about some of the plays that subfield did in decision making he looked Buble like he looked like I just couldn't believe he made this because we all were I was looking at it now why did he just throw this football into to Triple coverage away from the receiver that was completely off under thrown when he was rolling out and you these are decisions that High School quarterbacks could be better at like it was it was stunning for me to see that and and Dan Campbell was stunned as well I think he was really stunned and so I believe I believe that nck or Jake FR was come here with henen hooker intentions and C subfield blows look I don't care what you do in practice a quarterback has a red shirt on that means do not hit me so he can stand in the pocket and practice and just be patient right cuz he's not worrying about getting hit but in a regular season game look how panicked he was in the pocket he looked like he looked like a passenger who's been on an airplane going through turbulence who has is scared of heights he he looked panicked in the pocket it was crazy you can see and you got H and hooker is just really calm and you got sunfield oh like dude calm down but you know look some people just can't handle the spotlight it is what it is he is one of those guys he's been in the league for what seven eight years he's 30 years old he has a total of 188 yards passing one touchdown three interceptions in the in near decade of being in the NFL that shows you he just can't be on the field it just can't be I don't care about practice you don't get hit in practice you get hit in the NFL game looks like the Steelers have a trade in place for auk but San Francisco wants to keep him judon to Atlanta and Lawson to the C I don't know what's going on with the 49ers man this is a weird situation with Brandon a he's leaving he's staying he's leaving he's staying it reminded me of Brett Favre I'm retiring I'm un retiring I'm retiring I'm unretired make a decision fellas make a decision that's why I love the Lions organization right now we are so well ran we don't have weird crap like that taking place it's it's it's awesome to see it I'm glad we're not this we're we're not part of this organization that has oh yeah oh yeah let's see seems Amari hates Cleveland what would you do for a blockb trade for him I don't even know well first off Amari CP it wouldn't be a blockbuster trade yeah he's a name right now he's a big name Mari Cooper but he's older um would I trade for him look it depends what Cleveland want to get if they just wanted to get rid of him boy oh boy I mean he would be a hell of a number four wide receiver uh he'd be number three probably he' jump CLE Raymond that would I but the problem is here and I know like we talk about this wide receiver roles there's so many balls can go around folks on offense you have five offensive lineman generally speaking right a quarterback that's six players you only got five players left to put on the field you're going to have St Brown you're going to have Jameson Williams that leaves you with three you're going to have a running back that's a David Montgomery and if you wanted to put jir Gibbs in there you know as a wide receiver okay that's leaving you with basically another wide receiver or if you're you're wanting to go just having one running back out there you have a a jir Gibbs then you got khif Raymond so you just got one of the spot left of course could be Sam leaport right so there's just so so if you're to make a trade you're to make a trade this player is not get probably get the amount of time that they want to get right they they probably want to be on the field more it's just not going to happen with the Lions they have so much talent it's hard to do so and so that's why I think that's another reason why the Lions don't trade for some of these players they know these players want to be in a better position right they want to be maybe I want to be the guy at wide receiver well you're not going to get that Detroit we already got two guys you know well I want to be the running back well you're not going to do that we already got two three guys yeah well I want to be the Titan you're not going to do that we got a Sam leport and Brock rght we paid a decent at reasonable amount to so it's really impossible dude hey he rocked on you Comments know what would be hilarious we all all you and I we get a dudfield jersey and every time the Lions lose we got to wear that s be that would be funny man got to wear my dudfield jersey uh that would be hilarious yeah man that sucks for JJ mcth and I tell you what I do not root for any injuries on any any team I don't want that Karma happen to me right so if I Yay celebrate JJ McCarthy's done for the year yeah then my quarterback that's bad car or Derek gof or something so I I I don't wish anything and plus he won a championship right he is loved in this in the Michigan area so I wish him the best man recover JJ even though I you're on a team that we go against I have no hate for you sit back and learn what is Herman Moore saying about this season is he hyped orens sure that Austin again he's very hyped um he's just like me so he thinks that the Lions can go to a Super Bowl 100% factual um he do he does believe that the Lions go to the Super Bowl and it's just a matter of time before he's on L andu The Season's about to be here again put in the comments questions do you think that sdale plays backup guard or tackle he's playing tackle right now so that's where we need to watch him too because we got Dan Skipper we need to see what sdale can do we need to have this backup locked in okay and we got to do that let's get to 100 likes we got 183 in the building smash that like button again I am going to be on the huge show ESPN radio today 96.1 FM from 3: to 6:00 p.m. if you are not in the West Michigan area go ahead and uh just you just search the huge show it's live I'll be on there um or you just put 96.1 FM ESPN Radio talking Detroit Lions what's up Dan from lions Lions WRs talk live my man Dan make sure you subscribe to Lion talk live over there brother from another mother okay so make sure you subscribe to Lions lion talk live Dan doing his thing in the morning he's a morning guy you and rockon are morning guys if B don't know y'all do it um I am not more power to the both of you more power to the both of you do you think that hooker plays the first quarter Saturday it SFI and from get the first two quarters I TR I don't know shift but uh cuz I haven't heard anything but I must say I want to see hooker and I I want to see hooker and from I really don't want to see subfield I just don't I don't care about subfield um I just don't and I know that sounds mean but I want these wide receivers and and I tell you what rock Don said it best I I listen to him multiple times and he's 100% correct 100% correct and and is and and the chef okay these wide receivers got to be a Valu Ed and subfield cannot get the ball to these receivers he is extremely inaccurate and when you can't get the ball to these receivers we can't evaluate them and ultimately these receivers are getting punished for that they want to be evalu they want to make plays they want to make the team okay and when you can't when you have a quarterback that's not giving them football it's not doing this team any good so put other put other people in there it's it's simple as that it's simple as that now I was talking on lnu on Tuesday and brought up we need Jo Jared gofin there to help these receivers you know get uh get judged I think first off when you have to say that that's terrible right you it shouldn't have to be Jarry Goff or bus to hold the fort down you should have backups that are reliable right and if subfield cannot get wide receivers the ball why is he on this team it's pointless so I don't want to see I don't have no reason to see him I'm sure he's going to out there and get a lot of opportunity but I have zero Interest Who do you think steps set wide receiver for my God it's it's so hard to judge um I'll go with the fountain I've been saying he's the guy I think he you got to step up on game day he's done well in practice what about game day so you know what can I take option C I'm gonna say Robert Woods will be your wide receiver for I'm going to go I'm going to go on the limb right now oh Robert Woods is going to be your number four wide receiver watch for him to get cut simple as that from the Texans that's that's my option the Bears way oh F de bears with Motor City Dan kale saying hooker need reps how many quarters does he play no more dudfield please I hope he plays two Brent I would like to see him play two get him the first half look dudfield had the first half give H and hooker the first half of this game on Saturday the whole first half head and hooker do it he needs the Reps let's let's see what the level of competition up for him give him the first quarter of this game or first half of this game on Saturday that's what I to see I'm vanilla babe let's see how vanilla is our offense and defense in preseason ex extremely vanilla extremely vanilla uh and the even the Giants offense was Vanilla the delayed handoff I think they did it 10 times in the game so it's extremely vanilla and and that's the way it should be we don't need no trick plays we don't need him to do any of that there's there's zero reason to do that absolute zero don't scheme on preseason why right don't do it I don't need to see trick plays it doesn't matter I want to see I want to see evaluation of talent I that's what I want to see I understand subfield didn't perform well but we got to remember that we are playing in a pretty nasty storm Dylan he's been on this team for two and a half years nothing has changed since he's been in preseason nothing it's been the exact same in his whole career has been the ex exact same what we saw on Thursday is exactly what we've been seeing for years with subfield there's nothing there maybe he good in practice but he's terrible on the field this is nothing new this was not just a a game this is what he's been doing forever it's just the like is and when you cannot do a nard out route and get the football within two yards I don't care if it's stormy or raining nine yards is not it's not a big pass it's just not Lions Forum or uh he played quarterback in in college he could do that okay and he I I think he was a D3 school right so he could do that that you guys could do that I I literally was talking to my girlfriend's kids 15-year-old and I said she could pass that pass I play I I played football with her eight-year-old daughter who passed better passes I just it was absolutely stunning and that's why you seen Dan Campbell like it was just mindboggling because it's true it was mindboggling what about Isaiah Williams yes yes yes that's who I'm watching too Dave Smith um look he's trying to do do everything he can to make this roster and and like I stated before I don't care where you've been drafted if you're on this team you perform well you're doing good if you're on this team and you don't perform well I don't care uh he's undrafted I do not care that he's undrafted if he can perform and here he performed this again this was the back end of the roster for the giants cool it showed promise now let's put him with the twos on Saturday right see what he can do with the twos or give him a little bit with head and hook ER see see what they can cook up a little bit if he's still doing excellent route running like he did love it love it yeah I like Robert Woods too but given but the thing shift we may not have to we have to give up zero he probably gonna get cut that's the thing he may get C that's why I keep saying it like there is no need to trade he's probably going to get cut or if you're just wanting to do a conditional seventh round pick right um well give you a conditional seventh round pick um or we'll do a player swap or something like that some sometimes a lot of teams do that at the back end of the roster when they know they're not making the if they know that okay Robert Woods the Texas know he's not making the roster lies know he's not making the roster okay we'll do a player swap well I need this for that now it doesn't happen much but you can a conditional seventh round pick or we're just going to outright release them it's not going to cuss much at all may not cost cost anything no it's not shortened and it's going to stay the same let's get 21 more likes folks let's get to 100 likes I'll do the Ultra Combo for you folks um I appreciate everybody hanging out I started a different time maybe I'll do it a little bit more let's see does Woods have to go through the waiver wire I believe so maybe I don't know I'd have to look at the rules I know he's a veteran I know it's different for veterans but uh I don't I'm not 100% sure on that maybe somebody body else can tell Hunter Renfro would be a great option at wide receiving I kind of shocked he's still on the market too he is on the market the problem though is he's kind of like the Isaiah Williams type he's kind of the khif Raymond type uh am man Ross brown type maybe they're looking for a taller receiver more of an outside guy but uh you're right he's on the market and he I know maybe he's wait maybe's some of these guys too by the way are waiting for injuries they're betting on them themselves a little bit that they can probably get a better deal than veteran minimum so they could be waiting on injuries so it may not just be the teams it could be the players themselves always say that I agree with you Joe joeo um wide receiver four is more Vues I 100% agree I agree with you fully right there um absolutely and but but again we have injuries right there's going to be injuries there's going to be different formations so you're like so it is important right because we know we're going to have injur injuries happen every year St Brown missed the game last year right Jameson Williams was suspended he missed games khif Raymond missed games due to injury so I mean it's going to happen so you want to have the wide receiver how tall is Mei I don't know don't know that one don't know his length folks we have been on for about an hour and I got to get ready to go to the show so I appreciate everybody hanging out for the day and having a good time with that said folks [Applause] [Music] [Applause] adios searching for greatness and I see you the dying the Shameless I see you the aimless I don't want to be one of the nameless I'mma wake up with the mindset that one