GIANTS' DISASTER: Worst Start Imaginable!

Timestamps.Giants' Worst Start: LT, Eli, and Coffman Displeased that's the effort that you give woof BT I mean I don't know if you could have drawn up a worse start for the New York Giants you mean LT and Eli and Coughlin they didn't like what they saw oh God Giants Fans Boo Early: Daniel Jones Under Fire Almighty that was disgraceful by the New York Giants yesterday that was really that was repulsive like in the sporting sense that was just straight up repulsive and the fans were boing two minutes into the game which tells you they went in there predisposed to get all over that quarterback who nobody believes in at least in terms of the fan base and I think I guess the front Giants Look Untalented and Unprepared office maybe has to at least pretend that they still believe in him a little bit because they gave him that foolish extension but it wasn't just Daniel Jones listen the Giants the Giants don't look very talented all right and in terms of the one game and we knew that the third level we talked about this on Friday would be a big issue but they at least do have some other assets around the field I don't think that they're talentless although they didn't look talented yesterday but what I think to me is most disconcerting is they didn't look prepared they didn't look ready to play football now again we can micro you know where was Kavon tibo where was Burns Jones The Old Line third level Kayvon Thibodeaux and Offensive Line Struggles mistakes you know questionable play call and can you take some shots down the field which they really did not they did not look prepared to play football well I I think that that's a theme of the NFL we'll get more into that later around the league but you had the delay of game the 12 men in the Huddle the Fall start sloppy on un acceptable mess I don't care if you didn't practice or not or play in the preseason or not that cannot happen and I guess to me that's the most discouraging thing and most frustrating thing about this like we'll get to the defense and break that down and the invisibility of Kon Tibido he's he's amazing out there he just disappears you Sloppy Mistakes: Delay of Game, 12 Men in the Huddle can't even see him sometimes but we'll get to Kon Tibido and burns and the defense overall to me the most disappointing thing is the fact that we at the very least even if you don't have high hopes for the Giants can they throw the damn football down the field I mean they draft him a league neighbors everybody tell me oh neighbors is great oh the offensive line is so much better oh yeah Jaylen H's going to be moved to number two another draft pick by them what can you move the football I mean that is as embarrassing and pathetic as an offense dble takes over play calling and it looks even worse than what it did before it's just unacceptable on every level possible they did not look like Where's the Giants' Passing Game? Daboll's Play Calling Issues you know all the other teams are around the league you could say they're sloppy play in general Sam darnold didn't is he is a backup quarterback who we saw up close and in person for years with the Jets you want to say he's better fine he's not Joe Montana Sam Donell comes in here he's hitting every completion so why can't the Giants throw the damn football down the field period ends up scoring like scoring a touchdown should not be that hard yeah especially you get a turn over and I I remember I'm sitting on the couch I said to my son if they don't get a touchdown here yeah it's over it's just it's going now I again a fairly fatalistic approach that early in the game but you just get that certain teams need they need to pop early certain players Daniel Jones needs to feel some agulation early and and I just I I didn't know if they'd score but when they didn't score I'm saying that is a really ominous sign and bottom line is this the New York Giants since the 6-1 start back in 2022 they are 918 And1 C okay so I I know that wink Martin Dale was a big problem yesterday well wink last year win's gone and Giants' Defensive Struggles and Sam Darnold's Dominance yesterday Sam Dar looked like a phenomenal football player now I think he's a lot better than you do we talked about that as well I've always thought listen byproduct of what's around you whether it's scheme whether it's o line whether it's weapons not that D Sam Don's terrific but I I think he's more viable than you and by the way the Giants get out him as a starter no I mean the Vikings do yeah he probably he would yes yes I mean he was significantly better than Daniel Jones but here's the scary thing because you just said can you throw the football down the field this is why the Giants have massive problems because it's not one thing and this is the reason why the Giants were picked to win five six games in most betting circles not that they're always right but they're obviously lean out a ton of information where they base that that win win projection they didn't throw the ball down the field and we could quite frankly s do the next hour on that but then conversely they couldn't stop the opposing quarterback either so you're not getting downfield and if that game was a little tighter meaning they didn't just have to bleed out the clock Sam D would have gone for 350 like they he would have but but sometimes the Giants this defense lets him do that that's what Bowens does and he'll be good in the red zone I'm not going to go now look the pass rush has to be there if the Giants can't get to the quarterback they're screwed like there's just no way we know the secondary is limited although I like Phillips as a player and I do love Deontay Banks again individual Talent so they got to get better as a team but if they can't get to the quarterback with Kayon Tibido and and burns they're they're dead end of story period but Brian D see to me the reason why I thought the Giant were going to be a team that could be competitive like we saw a couple years ago is because of the coaching I thought Giants Since 2022: A 9-18-1 Record the coaching staff would be better this year addition by subtraction with wink and I know the schemes and all that stuff but just dble being you know maybe learning from last year and also proving uh improving on what he did a couple years ago having more Talent here than he's had before just be competitive and dable yesterday like the team was not coached well that that's a major problem so we know where the the limitations are talent wise I don't know what anybody expected of Daniel Jones but I mean my God was he even worse than what we could imagine but the coaching was not where it needed to be yesterday for the New York JN s you look at the Dallas Cowboys going into Cleveland against a good Cleveland defense okay and Dallas they absolutely punked them I mean Dall D's going to win 12 games whatever it's going to be 11 or 13 in the neighborhood I know Philly wasn't perfect Friday night right I don't say Quan oh my God the three touchdowns but jayen Herz was was good but he also made some mistakes but you just know that you just watched a quarter of the Cowboys they're miles better than the Giants you watch a quarter of the Eagles miles better and when they play head-to-head the results back up that assertion not to mention the Optics of the of the start to this season where are the Giants going I mean honestly I don't know what people expect we I I get it like there's losing a game where you look functional and then there's getting your teeth kicked in where you look disheveled and disjointed and inspired and that that it's the lad and and that's what's going to create the stir and the emotion that giant fans feel today but what you expect I was ready for the NFL and watch NFL football and what the New York Giants put on film yesterday and put out there for all of us to see was not NFL football it's it's simple as that and even afterward D was like oh yeah we'll be fine I what dude I'd be I'd be lied at my team for that mess that embarrassing slop that you put out there to start the season at home against the Vikings unacceptable and we'll get to Daniel Jones and we'll get to what it means moving forward we'll do Brian Daboll's Coaching Performance: Giants' Uninspired Play all that we got plenty of time here as we go to 2:00 let's get to your calls right now our friends of Town Fair Tire remind you that a Town Fair Tire you always get the guaranteed lowest price on name brand tires from Connecticut to Maine nobody beats Town Fair Tire nobody Stephen is in Brooklyn what's up Stephen hey guys what a disappointing game real quickly you guys are exactly right Brian dble did not have this team prepared seven we're waiting months to this first game there was they were not prepared and here's the biggest thing is very simple Minnesota Rush four dropped back everybody in Courage so when you want to say take shots down the field Daniel Jones was check down Charlie there was no place out there so how about and he can't even do that right he can't even check it down right for goodness sake it's infuriating how about running the ball make adjustments play action you know things like that establish the run but threw the ball 42 times they ran the ball 14 times they never established that from the beginning so he's he's got he better maybe give the play calling back to Capco or figure something out but it's gonna be a long season I bet it right now well he's it's gonna be a long season agreed but it's going to be longer if you actually thought the Giants were going to be really good this year or really competitive which I did not I mean there's a reason why and and I know that it seems insane and and you and I really I know sometimes we get a little nuts but to our credit we did try to navigate this in in a conservative matter like when we talked about Friday if you don't win this game I mean it's it's it's basically must-win and and and again that that seems crazy first game of 17 but you had to win this game and at the very least you had to at least show up and play a competitive brand of football they looked like they weren't even interested well that's the key to me winning the game obviously is of the most importance and we said that they had to win the game all those reasons that you said there but even if they lost the game and showed signs of encouragement you'd be like you know what sucks that they lost they should have won the game but at least they looked like an NFL football team that they all they do is they barely even take field goals it's pathetic and you want to talk about dble just took over the play calling like the next step is you're out you you can't this is such a mess honestly it's such a mess and there's so many layers to it that we we're not even getting to it all in the first 12 minutes of the show you can't they but we're going to do it like when we you know we'll take the calls here when we come back I'm going to get more into the depth of of D and Daniel Jones but it's so bad on so many levels that performance oh my God that was worse BT than a year ago where they got washed on Su night the difference is because at least then you could expect it to a certain extent being that it's Dallas in this particular case it's a it's a new year for the Giants they should be better because they're more talented Giants vs Cowboys: A Huge Discrepancy in Talent they actually have at least on paper some weapons that receivers specifically neighbors the defense should be still okay Jones is healthy D col plays like and you're playing the Vikings not the Cowboys and you still get washed can't even move the football it's freaking embarrassing Tyler is in Trumble Connecticut what's up Tyler hey what's up boys only word to say is disgusting I uh it's September 9th and I cannot wait for the New York Knicks to play basketball what world are we living in where we're begging for New York Knicks basketball how bad you have to be as a Giants Fans’ Frustration: Ready for Knicks Basketball? New York Giant fan to beg for New York Knicks basketball I told the wife strawberry picking apple picking it doesn't matter next Sunday is yours who Tyler hold on T who whoa the apple picking the Cherry pi oh no no no you're not there already don't do that yet already come on man I mean watch the Red Zone I mean my goodness that's a rookie move I mean you got to do that you know pre- Labor Day I understand that it's going to be pretty bleak I think for the Giants but you already tapping out and setting up the apple picking dates I'd rather watch you know the Panthers Get Smoked by the Saints by 40 then go apple picking on a football Sunday there there is an extreme overreaction I get it it's frustrating let's just focus for now on what happened yesterday before you start worrying about what's going to happen week two and Beyond yesterday was unacceptable and dable maybe to trying to show some of that new personality and not fire you not had that fire was after was like we got to clean some stuff clean some stuff up bro did you watch the clean some stuff up that is as bad as it gets your team was pathetic that was pathetic on many many different layers of the football game it's almost like he was just resigned to say hey basically this is preseason we didn't play in the preseason this is week one this is what it is in the NFL now which I think there is some truth to that but you still can't get embarrassed like that by Minnesota I got to tell you he just hit on something interesting here because and we spoke about this great detail on Friday obviously during Snippets at the show you listen to BT and S once training camp started I was saying this not everybody agreed I I don't think that D's job status is as sturdy as as many people seem to believe I'm not going to you know tell you why again Daboll’s Vanilla Postgame Comments Dissected because it's going to take forever but the bottom line is this what he can't do is suppress his energy because that's part of what makes him an interesting right but you're also saying you said last week well he's got to tone it down a little no no he's got to re he's got to direct it properly he's got to channel it proper you could still get on your team but if we saw start seeing passive at least public I know he's not doing this in the locker room he's not I know he's not doing this in the locker room but I know it's driveing him the first series you could see was tur a bright red but I think that if he's too cognizant of I don't to say appeasing people but changing The Narrative of of him being too much of a loose wire that it's over because that's part of who he is he's just got to refine it the wing stuff wasn't a great look the stuff with kfka some other coaches but he can't become vanilla da going to work either we got to clean some stuff up and he said it in such a like you said vanilla way that's not da and that's not the the tone to have after yesterday's embarrassment Mark is calling from Clark New Jersey what's up Mark guys good morning long time no talk hey what's happening he what's up so BT I agree with you I mean with the Giants um you know I didn't go into this season expecting Perfection but I did expect competitiveness and yesterday I'm not going to curse here this team sucks everything about this game sucks or sucked they Daniel Jones is not getting the ball down the field at Le like like like s said you have a brand new receiver and Malik Neighbors at least try to throw the ball up to him and make him and let him make a play just at least try that I mean you're thrown 14 running uh runs and then all that passing for not stupid interceptions real quick this is an important Point here I know it's easil easy and it's with Meritt to beg on dble here they didn't look prepared but the one thing that he did say and he he didn't really Crush Jones but I thought the implication was there if you really listen for it he was asked why didn't you take some shots down the field he he said we did he basically said we did and without saying my quarterback didn't chuck it down the field he so so to be fair to dble I think they had some deep shots called Jones just didn't let it fly okay we'll get to what this means for the Giants moving forward and where we're at right cuz we felt differently going into the year you're saying the same thing I'm going to give you my thoughts on it where maybe it's not that bad when we come back I need to say this not that bad I need to say hear this yeah and I need to say this first though about Daniel Jones I can't do it anymore I can't do it anymore I've been begging I've been screaming before ubt on the overnight for years I can't do it anymore I cannot sit there and tell my wife and daughter I am not going to spend the Sunday with them because Daddy needs to watch football for work and ignore SC all the other games that are going around the league because I Daniel Jones: Why It's Time to Move On usually like that for entertainment purposes but my job is the Giants and this is what I care about Giants and Jet that's where I truly care about that's the story lines that I'm invested in I can't do it anymore where you sit there at 1:00 you throw on The Game and Watch Daniel Jones attempt to play quarterback I can't do it anymore it's year six it is year six enough this is why I hated The Pick of neighbors it's not neighbors they need a quarterback how many weeks and years and we got to watch Daniel Jones I'm begging but I can't do it anymore Daniel Jones how could you be worse than that you got significantly outplayed by Sam darnold I can't watch him anymore BT I'm sorry I said this before the year I said in all offseason this why I knew it was going to be a problem I I can't watch him attempt to play qu it's it's impossible to watch impossible Tomy Tomy Tomy Tommy I'm not even saying I would do that I just like this this Shane you talked about it on Friday saying that you I don't know if you I forget if you said Hot Seat specifically but like these two guys may be a little bit more on yeah I I don't think that their future is as solid as as as most people do my biggest issue I like them both to be fair but yeah my biggest issue with them is that they chose Daniel Jones I know Gman chose him first they elected to retain him and so they in essence chose him as well and and that's and and they did it like when Joe Douglas mistakenly chooses Zack Wilson over Sam darnold or just Zack Wilson General yeah y there's like at there wasn't at least enough for him to see now he made a mistake but he didn't see Zack Wilson play for three years in the NFL before Shane and dable did see Daniel Jones play