Giants Meltdown: Is Daniel Jones Done?

and we're coming you live for the M for top Studio Boomer asiz and Greg G and a it's Boomer and go on the fans silal cast across the country on CBS Sports Network and wherever you are in the free Odyssey app good Monday morning on Friday I really did believe that this game was going to be a toss up between the Vikings and the Giants that ended up picking the Vikings but I wasn't confident about it even though I felt like gloating And retweeting the fact I was the only one here at wfn who picked the Vikings but I thought this game was a game between two teams that would probably win six or seven games they were lucky maybe eight games this season it would be like a 2825 type of football game where both offenses would be relatively competent against secondaries that weren't great instead what you got was a putrid offensive performance by the Giants that we haven't seen since I don't know every single year how about last year week one when they got shut out I mean to come out and have that first drive and look completely lost and then get worse from there you get that turnover have an opportunity to to score right off the bat Dexter Lawrence sacking Sam darnold early in the game there's some momentum there defensively to get three points then for the rest of the game only get three more points Daniel Jones coming off an ACL is something that we have to talk about but the problem is that he doesn't have the benefit of the doubt anymore we've seen him for five years previous to this and this is not some sort of crazy hot take thing this morning but like you could think about in week two going to Drew lock you really could with him coming off that ACL and being as bad as he's been it's not nuts to think about going a Drew lock already because that was that bad yesterday 28 to six to a Minnesota Vikings team that isn't expected to be any good good morning Boomer how are you yeah well I'm better than Daniel Jones this morning I can tell you that I'm also like you know quite perky I feel good yeah I got a lot of sleep last night um and uh it was a great day yesterday for me and I just want to say before we start a big thank you to James Brown and everybody over there at the NFL today Drew kisy they opened the show they said a lot of nice things about me and Phil I heard it I saw it and I do really appreciate it and it really meant something to me that uh that that did remember us and that was great that was great and they did in the middle of the show too again yeah I know it was really I mean I didn't see the beginning but I saw the middle and it was just like and there's also two guys like they ended saying those are two guys that are really important and then JB was like there was also two guys that were very important us Phil and Boomer I was like what that was that seemed odd but it was guys yeah yeah it it was good it was all great and I you know I can't speak for Phil but I can only say that you know I've had conversations with JB texting back and forth with JB over the last three months and you know he he really is sincere and he's authentic and he's genuine and that's why we all loved working together that was a family when we were there it's still a family now it's just it will take a while for people to get used to new voices just like you have to get used to Tom Brady just like when Craig Carton and I took over for Imus you know I've been on the other side of it you know so it takes a while and everybody will be happy everybody will be uhu will move on and I had a great Sunday that's all I can tell you I had an absolutely great Sunday I did watch football with uh although my granddaughter wasn't really all that excited about it um but uh certainly enjoyed uh watching and listening to Tom Brady and watching the Cowboys just absolutely drill the Browns but anyway to get back to Daniel Jones UAH that's all I can tell you and maybe it is the ACL we we could talk about a lot of things but unfortunately for him he's one and eight in his one and seven in his last eight games uh he's only got two touchdown passes in those uh in those eight games you know the the interceptions are killers man and there once was a word that was used and I like to bring back this word I don't know if you know what the word is that I'm going to bring back bring back but we haven't heard it in a while and I we first heard it back in 2007 uh we heard it again a few years ago and then it's kindly gone by the wayside I I want to bring it back do you know what that word is I do not no Eddie or Al would you have an idea of the word that I'm thinking about skittish yes thank you very much Daniel Jones is skit is and um nervous worried I I I don't know if it's the knee I don't know if it's just who he is as a player and it was cringe watching it yesterday it was hard to watch it and I felt bad for him again you and I we've met him we know him we like him but uh you cannot you cannot turn the ball over and I'm I'm telling you Brian D's head was going to explode yesterday uh I don't know if people can see it or or feel it or if they can tell it when they're watching um I certainly can he's calling the plays now though man he's had every opportunity to not have Daniel Jones start the season okay time out I know that but but he's making $41 million a year right a contract that that regime gave him they did after he beat your Vikings and I you're not you're not gloating this morning by the way I really don't care for for everybody who thinks this like I'd rather have the Giants win this morning and give us a little bit of juice than have to sit here cuz I don't think the Vikings are going anywhere it would have been better for me personally As A 42-year-old adult if the Giants would have won yesterday than the football team I rooted for as as a child so it's just it is um the the interceptions are the things that are really uh concerning that that's the first thing the second thing is the inaccuracy and the poor throws and you know that could be because of you know worrying about the knee injury overcoming all of that I I don't know I I don't want to make any excuses I just you can't watch this and Brian dable can't watch this continue I mean I would think really really really short leash and this on top of all of the things that have gone on over the last year uh with Brian dable and Daniel Jones and this offseason Hard Knock situation where they were legitimately trying to trade up into the top three so uh it's it is an ugly uh really really bad situation for the Giants and it couldn't have gone any worse than what we saw yesterday and unfortunately knowing the position playing the position and understanding the pressure on the position uh this young man is uh is probably at the depths of his career right now at this moment I don't know if it can get any worse but I do know it can oh it it can get worse well the only way it's going to get worse is because of the injury Claus in his contract and if he goes out and craps the bed next week against Washington yeah and he normally has not throughout his career that's the one team team that he can beat but this is why I I really believe this and and it's and I have to like keep prefacing by saying I really believe it cuz the the World of Sports Talk and and sports entertainment shows there there's a lot of guys that that say stuff to get reaction I I I I'm not doing that for that reason and I'm not this is some not some knee-jerk thing I really believe like what I want to go into Joe Shane and Brian dble and John Maris office what what's the point of this season for you guys really what what's the point of it because if you want to to save it then you should seriously consider making a move now to Drew lock and here's the reason why not a great alternative I okay I make over I make just go to Tommy DeVito yeah and maybe maybe end up going there too and I'm not saying that Drew lock is some sort of uh hero but here's something that he is and he's proven to this point in his career he's got so much more energy than Daniel Jones has and you don't have to worry about ruining Daniel Jones like one of these things where we bench him we're never going to get him back he's already gone he's already done and and he's not ready to play off of that injury as well that's clear he stinks to begin with he stinks out loud when he has to deal with a a rehab and an injury like this so to me it's what's the point of this season you just want to sit here and die and have nobody pay attention to you again and maybe maybe limp to a season where there's another regime change is that what you want or do you want to try to salvage something because you already lost one of these two games we said you had to win if you had any shot of being relevant this year and now you got another one on the road next week and we'll talk about the commanders and and Jaden Daniels very weird in my opinion debut for him there's a lot of different stuff in there just confusing actually yeah very confusing that it was kind of like Anthony Richardson in the cult yesterday just confusing but anyway um so I so I I and Drew lock at least at at the very least will will provide some energy and something different for a franchise that that just has always seems to die quicker than anybody else like the Giants are so good at dying quick in these Seasons like just think about last year we're having the same conversation the Monday after week one that we're having here but at least that was to the Dallas Cowboys who always beat the Giants this is to Sam darnold and a Minnesota Vikings team that's picked by everybody to be fourth in their division they still may be you never know and they come in MetLife Stadium and beat the breakes off the Giants right and no crazy and no offense and no competitive juice or fire that you were talking about and the defense was terrible too they were they were uh but we also knew that their secondary was going to be uh average uh there wasn't a lot of pass rush pressure on uh Sam darnold early in this game but there was a turnover and that turnover should have been the momentum Builder a couple really bad penalties on the defense that came at the wrong time that gave first downs yeah uh to a Minnesota team that should have punted uh that's that's the other part that just goes to show you that that's your new defense a coordinator trying to figure everybody out I again I will say that the first month of the Season folks is preseason that's what this has turned out to be these players haven't played together these coaches haven't coached them in these high anxiety situations and they going to be a lot of teams that look bad in the first four weeks of the season it's just unfortunate that uh see like to me now the the owners now goes back to Brian dable and he's got to make a really really it's not really that tough I mean I was in a situation like this myself personally in Arizona my first year there under Jim fossil a new offense coordinator under a new head coach um and we were running an offense where we were awful and the first two weeks I mean the first week wasn't bad the next two weeks were really bad but I got benched twice in the first in in weeks two and three I believe and if I remember correctly and I remember going into Vince Tobin who was our head coach and I said coach listen I've been around for a long time and I know the mindset of a locker room and I know what you're trying to build here you just you got to do me a favor and you got to do the team a favor you either have to stick with me and come out and say you're sticking with me or you have to bench me and you have to put the backup quarterback in at this case it was Kent Graham and the reason I say that I don't want to be benched I don't want you to bench me but every time you bench me at halftime you take everybody else off the hook because all anybody wants to talk about is the quarterback situation that's all they want to talk about and that's all we end up talking about most of the time here on WF so I that was on a Monday and I think I had just been benched I think against New England I think and we got our asses kicked so I go in there Monday and I tell them the story I come back Wednesday I find out that I'm benched I wasn't happy I was not happy but but oddly enough we came out the next week against the New Orleans team and beat them like the team looked different and and it looked different because now all of a sudden it's not it was the quarterback for sure but it's also everybody else realizes that they better up their play because now they can't hide behind the quarterback controversy they can't hide behind the quarterback who's not playing well and it's it's a true thing it it really is a mental aspect of the game and like the giant players right now like we we we just tort Daniel Jones for the first five minutes of the show and you went on and I went on and we talked about it and it's it's almost like we let the defense off the hook it's almost like we left the Special Teams off the hook it's almost like we let the coaches off the hook at the end of the day when you have this issue and this problem at quarterback it just envelops every other part of your football team so what I want to see is number one next week he gets off to a bad start get him off the field get the other guy in there if you want to give him another game uh and then wait and see what happens for a game three I could buy that but you cannot allow this to continue if you want to stand up in front of your team and you want to be respected by your players I'm just that's where Brian Deo is right now I mean in every story line just becomes worse and worse for example like you've got Sam darnold on the other team a guy who was just kicked out of here couldn't cut it in New York he's he starts off 12 for 12 he's throwing touchdowns all over the place and then you're thinking Daniel Jones is never going to figure it out now next week you've got the exact opposite of Daniel Jones in a in a guy who's selected second overall he's running around he's do he's he's he's at the beginning of his journey where there's a lot even they got their crap kicked out of him yesterday the commanders he's at the beginning of his journey and people are very excited he had two rushing touchdowns put up a bunch of stats yesterday so like everything is going to be compared now to Daniel Jones in the situation especially when it's within the division which is what you have next week so if have Jaden Daniels go off for two rushing touchdowns two uh um passing touchdowns and then the Giants defense looks the way that it did and then Daniel Jones is out there putting up six points in that offense and then you got the Browns Cowboys Seahawks Bengals Eagles after that see you number one overall pick Bill bich comes in here and shador Sanders maybe as your quarterback that that's how quickly it could happen if you don't stop now and seriously consider either yanking him off the field like you said in the first quarter if he gets off to a bad start or just starting Dre lock at the beginning of the game like I've said in week two against the command Brian D smart enough he's been around a long time he's been around a lot of bad teams uh he's been the offensive coordinator for some bad offenses uh some good offenses for that matter uh he he is he's either got to take hold of this or it's going to go off the rails I mean yesterday it it went off the rails right at the beginning I mean like we all felt like oh my God we're watching the same thing all over again and of course my giant fan friends the texts are coming in left and right I mean and these are hardcore giant fans they want their quarterback to do well they want to believe in their quarterback and I'm just telling you they are they are just besides themselves and the inaccurate throws the skittishness um the interceptions to binkle that's results in a touchdown and then the other interception in the Red Zone in the end zone these are two of the the the the worst things you could do as a quarterback and it's it happened again and it's it's almost as if I I kind of I you know and I know that what it feels like to be on a bad team and when the fans immediately turn because you all feel it you all feel it everybody feels it especially the guy that most of the booze are going for because he knows he knows what's going on he's not stupid well yeah especially when he's leaving the stadium and people are screaming at him you suck go home give me a million dollar right or or they're burning or they're burning his jerseys in a parking lot which is which is really sad I mean which is really sad and I uh my heart goes out to him I want to be uh somewhat sensitive to the difficulties of coming off of an ACL and how difficult that is for every any any player um but in this case it is just it it is just you can't allow it to happen if you're Brian D you just can't well it also makes it easier I think to make make a change in the way that You' be like hey he's not ready physically he's not there we thought he was going to be there he's not there uh he needs a little bit more time we're going to go with Drew this week I mean what do you have to lose and by the way you know going off the rails quick has been a trend here with these Giants head coaches some of which you got off to good Starts Now Pat Shermer did not but Ben Madu got off to a great start second year went off the rails got fired Joe judge got off to a great start second year to save out of a job gone see you later Brian dble Coach of the Year great start last year was sort of all right your quarterback got hurt uh second your backup got hurt you had Tommy DeVito and the cutlets and everything else we'll give you a pass on that year you've now come out and you are on the precipice of once again this is this is not being dramatic this is reality you could be one and six 0 and seven you really could be you could be that bad so what do you have to lose what do you have to lose your job is what you abut so put in Drew lock I'm serious that guy and by the way that say what he sucks Drew lock don't get me wrong he's not a great cback come on you know can't say that they suck they're in the NFL you know what I mean I I when you compare them to yes Patrick Mahomes yes you know everybody knows everybody knows what I'm talking about you know like it's like someone said when it comes to pro athletes you know how good you have to be to be that bad which I thought was a great line great line so anyway but um he he has energy if you look to his highlights he's the guy's going up and down the sidelights he's the guy that s like Baker Mayfield was doing yesterday right he's the guy when the songs are playing he's he's doing the lyrics and dancing like he's he's everything that Daniel Jones isn't so just this is it's perfect Daniel's not ready his knee's not was really really bad we're going to go with Drew this week and see what happens I I don't I don't know if Brian Deo really got into the face of Daniel Jones yesterday I mean it was almost like could see how frustrated and how angry and annoyed he was listening to his postgame press conference uh sounds like you know he he's had enough but I I don't know if they'll they'll pull the trigger this week or not I'm not really sure uh but I think your take on this in terms of hey he's not ready we're going with true lock and we're going to give Daniel another four weeks or whatever uh to to nurse the knee back and get more stable and get more confident and you know when I did get benched in Arizona by the way while I understood maybe talked myself into it you know with the coach and maybe I was giving the coach it out I was I was pissed oh yeah I was pissed and then when I got back in there that's when I took you know we took off so I mean there's there's something to be said about you know challenging somebody and making them sit down and and essentially embarrassing them because that's that's what it feels like you're embarrassed if you get benched but then again when you're benched if the team starts winning because of the energy that the other guy is bringing in there's something to be said about that too but I also believe that the rest of the players are put on notice that no longer can we hide behind crappy quarterback play or crappy offense or turnovers or fumbles every coach is looking for exactly what Brian dble told Joe Buck last year I need energy from this position and if I don't get it we don't have a chance [Music]