The Lou Holtz Podcast with Coach Urban Meyer Episode | S1E5

and he walks away after winning his 100th game as the head coach here at Notre day the reason I was born with the silver spoon in my mouth I was born in this country it isn't what you have it's what you're taught about the values of life we trying to save Souls so there's a ro life that said you're either growing or you're D and like an old friend once said We As Americans need to start winning again everyone should ask this question am I willing to ignore the pain and the suffering and the sacrifice it takes to be a [Applause] champion welcome to the lolz podcast don't care if you're Republican Democrat independent or anything in between don't care if you're white black yellow or any combination this is just about restoring the culture of this country and we're really blessed to have some great guests we've never had one any more impressive than ours today and that's herban Meer Urban Meer coached for me at the University of Notre D many many years ago and just one of the more successful people but before I get into the resume I waited a minute and urban was almost late he wasn't late but he was almost late and you you're always on time Urban I am and I I tell you if you if you allow me I'd like to tell a quick story when I was hired in 1996 at University under Dame there coach hols doesn't have a lot of rules but you better follow the ones he has and the number one rule is be on time and so we had little kids at the time we had two little girls and shell was working full-time as a psychiatric nurse and my job was to get the kids to school I had a 7 a.m. staff meeting and the kids are screwing around shelle's gone and she's at work and the phone's raining the phone's raining in I'm trying to get the girls ready to go and I don't have time to answer the phone I'm worried I'm going to be late for this meeting and I'm not going to be late and so I finally you know the kids are screwing around and and I forget to put their jackets on and just go go to the car I open up the garage and had a lake effect snow that night there's about a 5 foot snow drift right in our driveway oh my gosh and the phone keeps ringing so I just jaming get in the car as fast as I can I put that thing reverse blow through this uh snow drift I drive as fast I can to the school drop them off make them give me a kiss on the cheek and they're gone no jackets cuz I forgot but they'll be okay they're going to school I hustle to the office I get there about 653 and I'm sprinting I don't even take my jacket off I go right to the uh staff meeting and sure enough about two minutes later coach Hotes walks in we have about an hour of staff meeting and my secretary Julie walks in and she looks at me and she goes I can't believe you you did that I go what what' I do and she says you're an idiot and I'm like what did I do and I made the staff meeting I was on time and she goes Shelly wants to talk to you she on the phone so I walk in her office and I answer the phone I go hey and she said you're an idiot I can't believe I did that you did that I said obviously I did something wrong because you're the second person to call me an idiot and she goes I was trying to call you all morning I go oh that was you she goes yeah that was me and you never answered I said no I was busy getting the kids ready she said when you dro the kids off did you not realize it was a snow day and I thought oh my God and the kids without jackets no one was there no one was in the parking lot thank God a maintenance worker was there and let the kids inside so I made the staff meeting on time but my kids almost froze to death because I was in such a hurry but the story ends well they got picked up by our strength coach's uh wife and and we are all good well I I've got I'm got to bring people up to date how Urban ended up on my staff skip was on my staff he coached at uh Colorado State under Earl Bruce and uh was going to become the head coach of Connecticut and we're at the convention I want to say it's in Chicago and he said Dad you need to talk to Urban Meyer he replaced me at Colorado State I said skip I don't need to talk to anybody I know who I'm going to hire I know what I'm do don't bother me oh Polie talk no he finally said to me okay okay we have lunch with me tomorrow I said if we have early enough cuz I'm leaving we go to lunch the next day he said Dad I want you to meet Urban meire and that's when I met Urban Meer and end up chasing the whole way of person ended up hiring him with one of the best hires I've ever made on your your history with Urban and and just well I I heard Urban at Notre Dame because of my son I I was at a convention and Skip said you need to talk to Urban Meyer he was going to Connecticut his head coach I said I don't know Urban don't want to talk to him he said just I said no he said well we have lunch with me I said yeah so I had go to lunch he said Dad I want you meet Urban Meyer and that's how I met Urban Meer and heard him now let me give you a little bit about the rundown here about Urban Meyer he three times National Champion head coach three times in two different schools Ohio State 2014 2012 and 2019 the rosebowl champion he was at the Florida Gator he won the National Championship 20042 2008 he coached Tim t-o who's a Heisman winner two times Mountain West champions 2004 Home Depot coach of the year he was at Bing greed 2001 MAC coach of the year he was a wide receiver coach in Notre D from 96 to 2000 he was in Colorado State from 90 to 95 in Illinois state is a quarterback coach and before that is a graduate assistant at the University of uh Ohio State he has had 76 NFL players drafted including 21 firstr draft picks he played baseball he played at the University of Cincinnati in football also he was a defensive back and he was an extra baseball player 13th round Major League Baseball draft pick by the Atlanta Brees uh his off the field accomplishment these are impressive Urban and Sh Shelly his wife have a cancer research $2 million endowment at the OSU Medical Center The New York Times bestselling book above the line lessons of leadership and life from a championship season in 2015 he's just an outstanding individual a natural leader there one ain't doubt is going to be a great head coach for the first time I I met him so Urban welcome here and what's the biggest transition you've had to make since you've left coaching oh you have more time on your hands you know I just have always loved the team you know we got all all of us got into it for different reasons you know I I came in at the right era you know I was Woody hate ha was I know I was a big fan of Woody Hayes and Joe pno Lou Holtz Earl Bruce those are all my mentors boen Beckler so I learned from the very best and I got in it because a team and I missed the staff meetings but most of all I miss the team meetings that was kind of My Sanctuary when I had that team just you know not the media not other people involved but just that team to heart with you uh careers are made Legends are born us I will save that until the week before we go to that Stadium right careers are made Legends are born great saying I love saying that because it's true Josh careers are made they're made right here at a place like Ohio State you become a legend don't hide from that you do yourself you take care of your responsibility become a great player you're a legend and a play like Ohio State this is not for everyone so if you continue to be on this side of the room we got a problem with you because the expectation level that you guys created in Ohio State's never been higher two years ago we lost a game do we lose because we're really bad players is that why we lost the Michigan state is it because we have bad players is it because we have bad coaches no we lost that game because we didn't go into that thing in full capacity we didn't do it and for some reason it didn't happen last year Wisconsin full unit full capacity absolutely Alabama maximum capacity all nine showed up you win it and then Oregon for the national title how we how do we do Josh all n9ine how' the corners do Carrie how' the dine do how they all do I'll help you with that nine strong that's my focus I'm going to help on offense I'm going to do special teams but I can damn well guarantee you this it's going to be nice strong you got me or you won't be here that's the way it is our goal is not to win a National Championship don't even talk about that we don't talk about we talk about Big 10 Championship you will not hear I don't want hear coaches talk about it you're not going to hear that what you are going to hear is D strong and you'll be evaluated daily if you are not holding up your end of the bargain that will be addressed because we will not going to game one in blackburg Virginia with not n strong not going to happen that is absolutely non-negotiable you know what today is the number one team in America coming together having dinner and getting ready to go to work that's what we're getting ready to do and tomorrow's another day enjoy the moment you guys have heard it now time to go get another moment everybody got me so have a great day go we head off and uh I'll see you at the facility so I missed that and I miss winning other than that you know there's a lot of other stuff I don't miss I I tell you what you you caused a lot of people to get out of coaching because you beat him so often but uh I had the opportunity to speak to your football team at the University of Florida what where you coached there why you run such a good meeting why are your meeting so well organized planned and you know what you want to get done and you got it done what was it preparation was it just insightfulness well you were always my encyclopedia and I remember one time I asked you every time I would ask you a question you would always stop me and say what kind of team do you have and I would always just kind of reflect upon uh that and so my meetings were all based upon the team you would have and I I share that in Corporate America too when I speak the uh groups that you know there's not a cookie cut or me or that you can have because every group of people are different and I remember our conversation one time you said there's three types of teams one that's overconfident one that's lack of confidence that lacks confidence and one is just about where you want them they were on edge um they are a little uneasy but that you want that you want them to enjoy themselves but you want them to be on edge and if you're a team that's overconfident you kind of push them down a little bit if if you have a team that lacks confidence you have to build them up and if you got that team right where you want them you just try to keep you know keep enhancing what you have so it all depends on what kind of team you have and I would you know one of the my skills I believe I could read a team you know if a team needed to be pushed down I pushed them down if they wanted to be they had to get lifted up we lifted them up well you're raised in a Ohio and I had some relatives that lived on a farm up there went up there in the summer Etc and we played you when I was an East slurpo and I hate to say this we beat you 62 to6 but that that's another time how in the world did you end up being coaching for master mu did you always want to be a coach I did you know I uh I had a great childhood and I one time someone counted them up I I've been almost I want to say 900 high schools in my lifetime with the coaching career because you obviously like you we were all over the place and I would walk into high schools and I would always judge it to what I had had not good coaches I had great coaches I didn't have good teammates I had great teammates so I was lucky I I played for a guy named Paul Copco and I mean he was Hardcore a great teacher he cared deeply for his players and we worked our tals off and we won and I just you know I just never really visualized myself doing anything else I wanted to play as long as I could and you know I kind of thought I had a shot at Major League Baseball but that only lasted a couple years and I played college football but that was not going to go to the NFL so I jumped right into coaching at Ohio State and there never was really a I never really thought about doing anything else I I love coaching and I I love my 37y year career of coaching plays before overtime and the joint is jumping now oh that's that's amazing uh unbelievable now how did you end up at Cincinnati you were a defensive back and you were a better baseball player than you were football how did you not make baseball your career I got drafted out of the high school and I signed uh we originally from Cincinnati my father's a graduate my two sisters are graduates my grandfather was a graduate U ironically my wife and my son so that just became home and they were my biggest offer for football out of high school a guy named Mike Rod godfried was a coach followed by Watson Brown and they they offered me an opportunity to play at Cincinnati so I played for Atlanta Braves um got injured my second year and then I got a a certified letter from a guy named Hank Aaron that told me that I was cut that I was unconditionally released from the Atlanta Braves and then I went and played college football for two years oh very very good that it's nice to have another alternative when baseball doesn't quite work out now you're a great recruiter how did you evaluate the athletes and how did you sell there are a lot of people in sales Urban that could learn a great deal from you how did you select the athletes how did you close the deal with them well I I remember just learning from from the best and and it's not what you know it's what your players know and what the recruits no so every once again every player is different every player has every has different needs and wants and The Business of recruiting is first of all be genuine and show you care but then also find out what their interest is you know if their interest is to be a first round draft pick in the National Football League then we you know early on we didn't but as we progressed in our career we we were the team to go to if you wanted to have a great academic experience I was fortunate to work at some really high-end academic schools and we sold that and then the one thing as my career evolved I I really became consumed with the life after football uh commitment and that when I worked at Notre Dame and early in my career if you got a degree that was the ultimate that was it and the older I got everybody had degrees so we took it to the different level we called it real life Wednesdays and we would teach players fiscal responsibility we teach them leaders ERS ship training we teach him personal responsibility we'd buy him a suit we buy him an iPad and then we'd make him go shadow people in the corporate world and then also do many internships so that became our really calling card you know we were the place to go if you wanted the life outside of football and that that really became why we were so good at that world at the recruiting world real life Wednesdays is basically a 12 to 14 week course developing our players for when the cheering stops there was a day back when we were younger when I was younger that when you got a degree you got a job those days are gone it's Our obligation to get our players out in front so are you ready are you ready for what's going to come after because I don't care how good you are every player that's ever put on a uniform the end's going to come at some time we always start off with Foundation a foundation of what's life like in Corporate America we have some of the top CEOs in the United States come in and educate our players what they look for in the hiring process you got to have a great resume and great cover letter the first thing that introduces you to us or any Corporation is your resume so what I do instantly is I look at their resume I look at their cover letter and when I look through the resume I try to see what what brand is being created here that's number one the people you hire are going to determine the success or failure of your business so this is when I determine if I'm going to hire somebody if they fit if they're committed how did you end up as the head coach at Bing greed that was our Arts dri away went to K State how in the hell did you end up at bowling greed well I had two great mentors I have two great mentors uh Lou Holtz and and Earl Bruce and those are I love them to death and obviously I'm speaking with Coach Holtz now but um one year I was at Colorado state after no where was I I was at U I was at Notre Dame coach Huli retired and then he went to South Carolina Earl Bruce had retired and my last year at Notre Dame they both came to both coach Holtz yourself and Earl Bruce said it's time to go become a head coach and there's this job opening a Bowling Green and the team was really struggling they were two- nine and one- 10 and you know it's not a great you know it is a great place but they were really struggling so I took the interview not thinking I would have any chance was the first interview I have ever had for a head coaching spot and sure enough a few days later they called and said we want to fly you and shell in they flew Us in and then they offer me the job I had two children and my son was just baptized at Notre Dame I really wasn't ready to leave I was only 35 or 36 years old and I called Earl Bruce and I told him that I was going to turn the job down and he he has very colorful language so after yelling at me and cursing me out we hung up and and uh I just took it to heart and then I called yourself coach Holtz and I said coach I'm not going to take this job and you were very upset I could tell and you said why in the hell not why would you not take that job and I said coach I don't believe it's a good job and you go of course it's not it was a good job they wouldn't be calling you it was a good job they'd be hiring somebody else yeah you take a bad job and you make it a good one but you went to Bly greed and you turn that thing around and then I leave n Dame I retired Urban calls and says I interested in the Bowling Green job can you help me I said yeah I know Mike wi Cox Bob SEO both On The Board of Trustees called him Urban called said they offer me a job but I'm going to turn it down I said oh that's interesting why you nothing like going out on a lib and the guy said you should have thought about that before you had applied he said why don't think it's a good job I said Urban it's not a good job if it was a good job the other guy still be there bad jobs the ones that open up you take bad job you make it a good job and if it was a good job why in the hell would they hire you you receiver coach oh that's impressive he takes a buling green job the rest of its history what was your record your first year uh we were nine and uh either eight eight and three our F they were one and 10 or two and nine the year before we went eight and three and then nine and three well I I do know this I I was in South Carolina I had retired and they mik Big E the ad called said they're threatening to throw us out of the ACC unless we turn this program would you come and try to do it so I I went there and of course I tried to hire you uh cuz you I felt you're a great coach but lo and behold you end up at Bing green and we're playing Bing green versus South Carolina and on 91 when everything went to hell and they sent the airplanes in the buildings and Etc and they canceled all the games that week we were to play each other and I'm I'm glad we did because your team was really good I we Bowling Green you know good Lord knows that'll be fine but boy you did a great job but why did you go from B from Bowling Green to Utah that's all the way across the country different conference different why yeah I I was a Bowling Green I love Bowling Green and we just had a different Vision you know I wanted to keep growing and Building Things and and you just really limited and I remember Gary black me was great coach at Bowling Green and he said you know try to win it's just hard to consistently win there I coached at Colorado State for six years Shelly and I loved the west and I had about four or five job offers uh that year and I really wasn't going to leave and then this Utah the athletic director named U Chris Hill and the president named Bernie matchin they kind of talked me into coming out to meet with them so I met with them I was really impressed I did some homework that the number one budget in the mount West Conference they had the uh uh biggest stadium in that conference and I flew out there and I fell in love with Utah my offensive philosophy score and score fast take a four receiver set I want the corners and safeties to see nothing but red coming out who are you going to cover oh I like our odds it's like a fast break on Turf without the dunking and what really got me coach was uh that night I asked him if I could use a car I was staying in a Marriott right there on campus and I got out and they were averaging about 15 to 20,000 people per game in this beautiful 55,000 seat stadium and I went driving around and I was right on the edge of the uh foot Hill freeway they call it Parkway and Salt Lake City has about 2 million people in its surrounding area and I stood out there and I kind of prayed and I looked at the lights and I said if I can't get 50,000 people from this gigantic fan base in that Stadium then I'm not a good coach anyways so they had a great budget I was replaced in a coach that really recruited well I knew there was good players and that sealed the deal I Kell shell that night and said we're going to move to Utah they said we'd finish six in the conference our players did a little better than that and you know what you ain't seen nothing yet ain't nothing yet yet you Ain yet youin yet Coach did I just hear you say ain't what school did you go to anyway you you ain't SE nothing that was a big move I I remember you called me and told me do it I thought no that that's a mistake Urban but in any event it ended up the president I think of uh Utah ended up being the president of Florida is that correct yeah he left after we won a first Conference Championship in uh in 60 years we played in the liverty bow and I met with him afterwards and he said I'm going to Florida and he says you never know so I said all right okay you've won three national championships there but what was the difference between being good and being great with your teams I I you know it's ironic coach and I we've had this conversation I'm not sure those two teams were my most talented uh I'm sorry the three teams obviously great players but they had the the one value that is so important first of all it's important in your own family it's important in just living but the selflessness approach to our team because football is the is the perfect example of what life's all about I mean the hard miserable part of the game of football is what makes a team or not you know a quarterback throwing a a a touchdown to a wide receiver that's fun running down on a kickoff at 21 miles an hour and hitting something going 20 miles an hour that's not fun yet it's something that has to happen it and people don't do that because you know maybe a few but most people that's not enjoyable playing a three technique and getting double team by 640 lbs of people that's not fun but why do you do it you do it because it's a means to an end because you have to do it for us to win but those three team shared the common quality that I'm sure your 88 team had and that is just they would do anything for each other to win that game yeah that that's great uh how do you feel with the nil now and pay play at athletes you know that that destroys my desire to coach in college football I think nil and I sat in those committees for many many years I think it's great I think when if it's capitalism for example if uh a great player like Marvin Harrison Jr and some car dealership in town wants to hire him they want to put his name on a billboard and pay him money sign autographs they want to he wants to you know put something on Instagram or they sell that but that's not what's happened coach what's happened is it's cheating with $13 million deals at play like Rashad's recruiting now hinges on his school's ability to alert athletes with top dollars not joining the race could spell disaster for football programs Stanford which has refused to associate with the booster Collective has had consecutive three and N Seasons since nil entered the chat remember this isn't the NFL where salary caps ensure a somewhat equal playing field and where teams with the worst records receed the best draft picks and there there's these things called collectives where they go out and get money from donors and they get this big giant mass of money and they and and they pay players and that's not what the intent is n name and likeness is that's America America is built on name and likeness if you if Lou Holtz or Urban Myer or Marvin Harrison Jr CJ stra they want to go you know use their name and help sell cars help a business you know that's great but to have a 17-year-old demand money for a visit to pay these players you know a lot of money to go visit a you know a charity for 20 minutes and they write a check or $50,000 that's cheating you know that's not what this is all about so I'm very disappointed in where where it went I think the purpose or the integr the the the reason for doing it is right a player should be able to do that and especially think about this coach these other sports you know if you're a woman basketball player like the great girl from Iowa and she they want to put put her on a billboard and pay her they should be able to do that but that's not what happened what's happened is the arms race of collecting money from donors and the donors are they're simply paying players and that's what I understand is happening and I I don't like that I think all the things that SMU went on probation for back in 86 is now legal The Joint investigation between SMU and the NCAA has concluded that between September of 1985 and December of 1986 monthly payments ranging from 5050 to $725 were made to numerous student athletes according to smu's investigator in this case those payments were made by one booster who neither the university nor the NCAA will name publicly the report states that certain key athletics department staff members agreed to the illegal payoffs and as a result of those arrangements 13 members of the football team received about $47,000 in school year 1985 86 eight of those student athletes continued to receive another $114,000 during the fall of 1986 I find not only inside the community with our faculty our students Etc and I find outside the immediate university community outrage that this has happened and that it has continued since two years ago but the thing that bothers me more than in the nil is the transfer portal I I mean all you do change the address of your problems I've I've always believed you persevere you improve you wait your turn and you be ready when it comes yeah the the transfer portal was something that uh I was a big fan of The Graduate once you fulfilled your obligation as a graduate and you can move on we had great examples where players just weren't quite good enough at Ohio State and they went somewhere else and played and got a great year of football in I was a fan of that but then now my understanding is a judge ruled it that now there's unlimited transfer you can leave anytime you want and you can transfer anytime you want so that was not there when I was there my colleagues or friends that I speak to say it's really hard you know if I'm a Bowling Green coach and I we do a good job developing a player they leave the next year and go for someone's going to pay him some money if you're at a school and you get beat out you leave so we won a national championship in 2014 with a third string quarterback not many third string quarterbacks anymore they all leave now of that history making game more than 33 million Americans watching the Buckeyes face off against the Ducks Ohio State toppling Oregon 4220 in the first ever college football national championship in the stands we couldn't help but to notice Ohio native LeBron James right there he was then on the field celebrating with that third string quarterback who made it all happen the Ohio State guys are the first national champions of the playoff era yeah absolutely I agree with you completely on that now I would come up and speak to your team every year and when I first came to Florida right after you'd been there you talked about this left-handed quarterback that you're were trying to recruit that you thought would be the difference I thought who in the world can one player make a difference turned out to be Tim TBO who led you to a championship Urban Meer the Gators won their second national championship and [Applause] tonight TBO takes a knee and that is that congratulations to the University of Florida Gator but not only that what he's accomplished off the field is equally is important what made him special yeah he is uh well first as a football player he's that he's as good a person as you ever meet but he's also the toughest and this is a big statement because I've to coach some tough players he's the toughest guy I've ever coached I mean I his pain threshold was something that he would play through broken bones he would play through serious injuries and he was never he would never stop promise you one thing a lot of good will come out of this you would never seen any player in the entire country play as hard as I will play the rest of the season and you never see someone push the rest the team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season you never see a team play harder than we will the rest of this season God bless what makes him such a great person he he his faith is something I've never experienced I'm on his foundation board and our meetings and his passion for you know bringing faith hope and love to those in their deepest need that's the motto that's the mission statement and he lives it I want you to be successful but more than anything I want you to be significant and when you live for Jesus and you love people I believe you're going to have a life of significance and I coached him for four years and he changed my life I mean he would come in on Fridays and grab me and make us go to the hospital and see and it would just give you you know in in the thrs of the anxiety of getting ready to coach a big game it just brought you right back to the planet Earth and and you know reached your faith and made you give that a gift of compassion to uh people that need it as we get ready to wind this down Urban tell us about your family I know you have three children you're very proud of and a great wife tell us about Shelly yeah shell we celebrate 35 years uh we met in college she claims it's 39 years because we dated for four or five years before but it's 35 years of marriage she's awesome I got three children all were captains of their all were straight A students and this is the best thing they all married three people that are like our own children so we're three for three so we're blessed Beyond well you really are you've had a great life I'm I'm sorry you got a coaching early because you had so much to it you won everywhere you went and I don't care where you put Urban Meer you can put him anywhere in the country today I promise you Urban me would win now and last thing Urban the purpose of this program is how do we change the culture of this country what are the things that we need to change to become outstanding well you know I think as a leader your job is to unite and in our lifetime we've witnessed a lot of division you know and that's one of the great skills that Lou Holtz had and Earl Bruce had Woody Hayes had and everybody had different styles but the end of the day is to bring people together and what's happened in the last decade in my lifetime I've never WT this is I've seen division to the point where and I fall victim to it you know I have very firm beliefs and I I I it's hard for me to put my hands on some of these things so that's number one is somehow you know it used to be more Central centralist in the in politics it's not that way at all now now it's extremism and on both sides and it's like I I I I can't disagree with more with fundamentally with some of the things I hear however the number one thing is I think what make America great is meritocracy what I love this country why I love this country so much and my mom was an immigrant from Germany my father's parents uh Grandparents were from Ireland you know I've coached whether it be be whether Utah Florida or Ohio State completely different backgrounds at the end of the day I believe deep in my heart if you work hard you work really really hard great things will happen to you and if if you don't it's going to be a struggle I don't know why that's so complicated it just worked really really i t my father you know it's interesting coach is and you met my father my father was a huge fan of yours he would ask me and this is this is I do this with my children I did this with my teams he said I don't care how big you are I don't care how fast you I actually don't care how smart you are but I'm going to ask you a question it's a simple question but sometimes it's a complicated answer he goes are you the hardest working guy on your team and he'd stare at me and I a lot of times I'd lie to him and say yes I am and then same thing when I started coaching when I was a young coach he said are you the hardest working coach in the country as one of my greatest moments coaches when I went to my father and I said remember that qu you asked me this question all the time I haven't been truthful I'm looking you I right now I'm the hardest working coach there is and that was a that was one of my that was better than one international title to be able to tell your father that you are the hardest working person out there yeah that's great I didn't know both of your families were immigrants coming over uh they you know at one point they were my my mom was my mom met ad saw Adolf Hitler she was a East German Refugee during when communism took over e Germany she left escaped under gunfire so yeah she came in the right way and she became a citizen one of the Great Moments of uh our family's life when she became a United States citizen all but I could do this all day because you're so interesting and you're so astute and your observations are right on and your success is unparalleled so thank you so much for joining us you know as I said Urban you got a problem you call me then you call 911 I always be here for you because you're always there for me God bless you and thank you for being with us I love you coach and I'm I'm anytime let's do it again and he walks away after winning his 100th game and as the head coach here at Notre day the reason I was born with the silver spoon in my mouth I was born in this country it isn't what you have is what you're taught about the values of life we trying to save Souls so there's a ro life that that you're either growing or you're dying and like an old friend once said We As Americans need to start winning again everyone should ask this question am I willing to ignore the pain and the suffer offing than the sacrifice it takes to be a champion