Why Would Blake Snell Stay With The Giants

baseball guys with Sam love and Joe sasi celebrating 100 episodes of the best damn Giants talking the bay how about that 100 episodes garlic fries and baseball guys catch episode 100 now wow for the special episode say love you caught up with giants Allstar Logan web how about that maybe one day you'll cut it up and maybe we could play some of it on the show lovan yep yep yep yep available wherever you listen to your podcast uh Shas I love the exity bubble text SL because you get a text from the 510 I get a text from 510 bante is living proof of the older you get the more negative you get actually I'm living proof that the older you get the more you don't beat around the bush Okay the more you just tell the truth so and and I don't know what was so negative I love Blake Snell I didn't want Blake s to be traded but the proof is I'm just trying to look at it from the other side why would he want to resign with the Giants in our current state that's that's all true well I I think money like that's like you're asking me what motivates a guy obviously money winning culture fit family all those things like but money money is not it's not always the number one thing but as we're learning you know money is a big part of this okay it's not the end all be all and not all money is created equal New England money isn't the same as San Francisco 49er money for a guy by the name of Brandon iuk but for Blake Snell like it's the same thing with Brandon iuk if Brandon iuk really was going to get lured to New England it had to be $40 million a year y for him to even consider it so when I look at like where the Giants are at if you have 17 committed to Jung Huli next year Hicks at 12 a half that's about 30 then you got web and Rogers that's another 24 so you got 55 million of your $212 million payroll that you to get into that top 10 cuz we all think the giant should be in the top 10 annually of the payroll and and they have been this year okay so to get to that number you got to pay somebody and when I look at their best players that are young bayley's got two more years of arbitration meaning his his number is going to be suppressed Tyler Fitzgerald two more years after this one of arbitration so his number is going to be suppressed Ramos as well Birdsong as well Harrison as well jelly as well all right the number committed after 225 it's just three guys Hicks web Lee web Lee Hicks in 2027 web and Lee in 2028 you got to pay somebody now if you bring back Blake Snell hypothetically in this situation you give even if you give him 50 or $55 million a year for three four five years okay whatever it's going to take well then maybe Robbie Ray instead of opting out maybe he opts in maybe Robbie Ray is a guy who thinks about resigning with you because Blake Snell's on board and you you're you're trying to bulk up and have the best starting staff one through five in baseball maybe Matt Chapman decides to opt in maybe Matt chapon is more apt to sign a three or four year deal like you get where I'm going with this you've got a lot of Team controlled assets that are that are going to be salary suppressed now is the time to overspend you know what though they've been in this position the last two years so shasi and it's I'm just going to take the other side here because they have been in this position to where they don't have a lot lot of money committed on the books and you look at their offseason classes their free agency classes their inability to strike and overpay guys they failed at that and if the guys callor the shots in Far Hani is going to be around here because now I'm having my doubts about him leaving I could see a scenario in which he's back well far Hanid would he be willing to give Blake snail 40 to 50 million a year I have my doubts I really have my doubts now you look at the free agency market here next season there's a lot of guys going to be free agents obviously Robbie Ray who you just mentioned can op out Max sherzer at the age of 40 is going to be an unrestricted free agent he'll sign somewhere because I don't think he's done quite yet he's uh final piece for a winner final piece for a winner Justin Verlander is going to be 42 next year we'll see what happens with him he's coming off the books with the Astros are 43 million to the point where they may just retool their starting rotation say hey Here Blake here gar Cole has opt out with the New York Yankees at 36 million will he opt out looking for new money probably maybe possibly he's going to probably opt out Patrick Corbin's cooked he's going to be a restricted free agent he'll be El somebody who's back in the roster I could see the Giants bringing him in as a six starter see that there we go could you not well that's it's got Ross Stripling sha manah written all over it well it doesn't have Blake snow written all over it B telling me that we're we we're going Bargain Basement shopping we're going to Ross Dress for Less and getting Patrick Corbin or dare I say a Charlie Morton who's going to be 41 years old if he doesn't retire he's making 20 million this year by the way Charlie Morton so I'm not trying to be a Debbie down here for Giants fans because trust me I want Blake Snell around I'm I'm so thrilled flag you got to try to PL the flag but haven't they tried to PL the flag over the last five years I say this this year's different and the reason why this year in particular is different is because you didn't have an All-Star center fielder in Elliot Ramos who is under 25 years old you didn't have the emergence of Harrison and bird song for a full season right so those make things different bayy I still believe is a starting catcher I think he's an upper echelon now I don't think he's top tier but he's an upper echelon starting catcher especially given how bad the position is offensively in the game and then I look at Tyler fer I don't know what Tyler f sherald is Honestly though if you're Blake Snell and you've played with some dominate teams T Bay Rays you played with a great lineup in San Diego that went nowhere but you're there I mean if you're Blake Snell is that enough to convince you to stay here and think that you could compete in River you're in a division now deal but hold on to play a team that wasn't even yeah he signed late no doubt he had he had to reup his came here he already came here but he sees it now where he's saying to myself he's saiding to himself we're seven games behind the Padre's and the Diamondbacks second and third place teams can I honestly compete within my own division with the Giants but this is where you have to overpay like I'm I'm telling you we are not no we we are not on the level of the Padres in terms of sex appeal we are not on the level of the bra I understand all that we've said this with Aaron judge we said this with shy Otani this we said this with every free agent over the last three years overpay overpay overpay and it still wasn't good enough because players they want their money and they know oh I could still get comparable money and still be in a position to win at the highest level now he's actually wearing your uniform right now but the Giants aren't ready to win at the highest level yet these guys aren't ready to roll they're in the is Micky bets going anywhere is show going anywhere books aren't Immaculate it's not Immaculate but they're ready to spin the Padres is Manny Machado anywhere Xander Bogarts Jackson Merill I mean fernandoo tatis Jr I mean who else why he sign with those guys on a one-year deal this year because money because the Giants gave him more money than anyone on the onee this year I hear you I don't don't this only the only trump card I have you're right the only card I have is the Giants have to oversell well they have to oversell but then the Yankees just say hey Blake SN you like pit Stripes you like pit Stripes I mean they they were another team that was rumored with Blake Snell and they didn't go to the 32 million and structure it the way the Giants did well now they may now they may now they may this is where I what I'm saying is if you even want to be in the game with Blake Snell it starts at like $10 million per season more than whatever you think he's out there getting and Scott Boris may still steer him to another Direction saying look well you can make 10 million less say in Philadelphia right you go to Philadelphia you make 10 million less but we're going to make some of that up with endorsements with commercials with all that stuff so I look at the Aeron Nola deal he's gone a 7year $172 million deal it's only 25 million a year it's a really good value but wheeler got him this last time for 42 million a year so to me if you want to be in the mix it starts at 8 to 10 million more than what wheeler just got wheeler got a threeyear 126 so you're saying 3 for 100 I don't think that's even close no I was saying this two weeks ago where I was like two weeks ago we we were talking about Blake I said extend it right now for 3400 and we both agreed it's not going to happen under Scott Boris he's going to allow him to opt out and go into free agency so if you can't get it done will you have him in house like hey if you're not going to offer him that right now for example you're coming to the table second game against the Braves and like You' been unbelievable games .99 you have to do it now yeah I agree I have to do it now and acknowledge you're probably going to regret it in four years but you know what at least you you plant your FL if I told Giants fans you get Blake Snell and Logan Webb for the next four or five years I think most Giants fans would say sign me up now now they would it's unbelievable how they how things flip right but if you ain't flipping you ain't flopping at this moment whatever whatever that jop is um but Blake snail and Scott Boris are now dubies they understand what's going on and so I'm just trying to be a realistic here I'm just trying to be realistic about the situation I don't think there's any chance in hell once Blake stale enters free agency that he's coming back here because of all the what if like it's a what if is Ramos going to be this good next season it's a what if with Fitzgerald it's a wh if it's a what if everywhere Luciano it's a what if we got a bunch of what ifs well Luciano I'm I'm here to tell you Luciano cannot drive the ball well the power is not translating well we've got a bunch of we've got a bunch of what ifs and the Padre's got a bunch of yeah they're dudes yeah the dond backs have a bunch of yeah they're dudes the Dodgers have a bunch of yeah they're dudes the Phillies have a bunch of yeah they're dudes the Yankees yeah they're dudes and watsa's going to probably resign with the New York yys the Giants have a lot of question marks No Doubt comptitive as they've been over the last month they have a ton of question marks aski but the Padre's owner just passed away and they have to shed payroll so as great as that sounds and I agree with you that they're in their window now they've got a lot of contracts like the Xander Boger contract it doesn't look good for them and so they're going to have to move money to afford a fiveyear let's just say hypothetically 150 200 $250 million deal for someone like Blake snow I hear