Pickin' It Out w/ Andrew Pope #34 | Brett Favre

I think it was the year we won the Super Bowl and it was it was training camp I think uh which was 96 and Andy Reid who is now coaching the Chiefs yeah was my quarterback coach and Andy was a big Alabama fan and I'm in the wait room and Andy comes walking in with the guys from Alabama the whole crew they were they were playing the show in Green Bay so uh I guess he went to the show and got a chance to meet them and said hey come on over I'll show you the facilities and you meet some of the guys or whatever I don't know how that happened but that's how I assume it happened well it's another podcast just call picking it out guitars Out Of Tune it's another [Music] podcast it's called picking it out we got the one and only Brett Favre in the house yeah and we're going to be picking it [Music] up man that's the number one hit well I've been told that but I thought I dreamed it so I don't know if it was real or not well well correct me if I'm wrong Fort pain ain't very big but it sounds like it's a a music Town yeah it it some boys made it that way I think uh really before that it was kind of known as the sock capital of the world before Bill Clinton more uh factories made more socks than anywhere before all that crap went over to China um well what's the muscle shs is like a big oh yeah jeans place right Wrangler aren't they are they well I I say that I don't know about now and I I I I know at some point that they were a big I wouldn't say it was the Hub but they had a huge Factory because when I was with rangler if you remember really bad tornado that hit muscle shs yeah I mean that was what 10 15 years ago some at least C I mean it was uh F I think it was one of the strongest in the Southeast ever it was like 75 miles it went 2011 all up towards towards you guys yeah 2011 April 27th and when I again I was with rangler where their plant got hit in muscle shs so like the day after two days after the one of the main guys that I dealt with with Ranger asked if they flew down on the private jet picked me and my wife up would we go to the plant and just kind of lift some Spirits stuff like that so yeah sure so they picked us up we flew the muscle shs and you couldn't tell I mean you couldn't tell where anybody lived where anything was it was just a bomb it look so we get to the plant and um we meet meet shake hands and I mean what do you say but an interesting story about that is they they found a pair of jeans from that factory I want to say 75 miles to the east that had gotten picked up in that plant and twirled around that far uh and you know I I'll forever remember that you know the power of Mother Nature but uh that's why I say that there was I don't know if again it was a hub a big Factory uh and I don't even know if they rebuilt back there but sounds like Alabama's uh got a little bit of everything yeah I mean I I learned that just now I didn't even know that yeah but U was interesting story someone found a pair of pants in their yard and I don't know where where it eventually ended up 75 miles away if there was destruction there I don't think it was I think it was just kind of like a weird thing that someone came out in their yard and there was a pair of pants there and it mysteriously dropped there well and me um it's pretty cool yeah that story Manan I obviously the tornado wasn't cool but uh but speaking of we're we're we're kind of dodging and weaving it today uh it's it's thundering and rolling uh that little front's coming through yeah you're in Mississippi time year yeah you're in Mississippi ain't you yeah yeah I'm an out north of where I grew up me and my wife grew up on the Gulf Coast and uh from where I'm sitting right now to where I I grew up house I grew up I can be there at 75 miles it's and if you drew a straight line from where I live now straight South you'd run intercept right to my house Believe It or Not wow but yeah we grew up down in Hancock County which is the bottom leftand corner of the state there's three counties on the state uh on the on the Mississippi State Gul Coast um it's Hancock which borders Louisiana Harrison which is buuy gulport um You probably heard of those oh you've been through there plenty of times in Jackson County which is Ocean Springs Pas gou at Borders mobile yeah yeah I I grew up at uh little small school Hancock North Central now it's a one of the bigger schools in the state which is I think a lot of Katrina people came in from New Orleans and casinos have brought a lot of people in working and the school was gone from graduating 100 to graduating 500 we ain't used to no big schools around here you know it's funny I when I went to Southern Miss of course that wasn't that far away I'm I'm 10 miles from Southern Miss as as I speak right now um and as I said you know call it 80 mies from the University to my house that I grew up in so I mean that pretty you know pretty local but when I when I signed at Southern Miss and got there I think my recruiting class there was about 15 to 20 guys that were signed and it you know it was a lot different back then there was no you didn't you might have one guy transfer in or transfer out in your four years and um I would say 35% maybe maybe 40% of the guys I played with there was 100 guys on the team were from Alabama so almost half the team is from Alabama we had them from Huey Town silaga Centerville Tuscaloosa muscle shs mobile Satsuma I mean we had them from all over they were good you know they were just on that not good enough technically to be signed by Alabama and Auburn and back then Troy was a smaller classification and you know there wasn't no UAB football that so there wasn't you know there wasn't super competitive market recruiting yeah the cream of the crop went to Alabama and Auburn obviously oh yeah and then South Alabama didn't even have a football team in 87 I don't believe um so so it was we got all the the tweeners yeah and then we'd always go back and play Alabama and Auburn uh that's back when we played them every year and uh my maybe my most favorite year was the year we beat Alabama and Alburn and had Georgia on the ropes and we lost s I think it was 17 to or like we lost by two points we kicked the field goal at the end of the game a Chip Shot our guy hit the crossbar oh man we almost beat Alabama Auburn and Georgia in the same year now who can say that not many people I I off top of my head I don't know if it's been done may not have been so you know we we had some pretty good pretty good teams back then they were largely made up of Alabama guys all right what year was that 87 through 90 so 90 so Jean Stallings was at Alabama at that time yeah that was his his opening game oh man you know that that's an interesting season so that was my senior year I started as a true freshman I didn't R shirt had a had a pretty good gear as a true freshman I was as Raw as you could ever get um my dad was my high school football coach and it's been well documented we ran the wishbone you you ask any younger generation kid today you start talking about the wishbone he'll look at you crossey like what is that but but we ran the football we ran the option we threw it maybe two or three times a game if that so when I got the Southern Miss and became the starter we we opened the season in 87 I'm 17 years old we opened in alab at Al Alabama Ray Perkins is the coach they had Derek Thomas Russian off one end so you can imagine the atmosphere in that Stadium um and I think we played them in Birmingham uh I think and um I'm the third string quarterback and there were every time I was a backup quarterback which thankfully wasn't that often but the few times that it was I wanted to play I and you know I mean this may sound bad but in a in a weird kind of way I pulled for the the starting quarterback as I pulled for the team to win but I also like when he got tackled I would be like don't get up don't get up because I wanted an opportunity yeah um that game I remember vividly thinking to myself get back up I'll wait till next week because they were bringing it man I mean they were that was like a pro team playing a junior high team I mean they were killing us so I was like maybe next week it's lo and behold we play two lane the following week um first guy struggling we're we're down 173 at halftime the second guy he's struggling so the head coach looks at me and he said I was a backup punter by the way and the the head coach grabs me at halftime and says get ready you're going in so tells you how where my head was at 17 I thought I was going in punt I'm like I'm over there stretching my right leg well I didn't go in punt I went in the quarterback and I had no reps as a starting quarterback I you know in practice I didn't get any reps god um and I was taking nine step drops on on pass plays that were three-step drop plays I was rolling out when it was a pocket pass I mean I was doing everything wrong and yet I threw two touchdowns we came back we won and rest was history uh but uh yeah we played Alabama we lost 30 something I think three the first game beat two lane and the rest was history but we beat Alabama and Auburn my senior year after I had a car wreck and I the interesting thing about that story is July 14th before the my senior year I was in a bad car wreck I had uh um bad internal injuries I fractured a vertebrae in my back this is July 14th and we're playing Alabama I think it was September 8th and we had a game before that we were playing like uh Delta State or something so July 14th I had the wreck I'm in the hospital for seven days no surgeries had a bunch of stitches and bad bruises and stuff like that and they said you you know you're free to go after a week but I felt awful I couldn't eat had no appetite uh I was one I was 236 the day I had the wreck I was in the best shape of my life when I walked out of the hospital I was about 220 I was home for about five days and then me and my wife we we wasn't married at the time we came up to college she was taking summer school classes and I was staying with her in their apartment again I had no appetite I I would try to eat and couldn't get anything down well eventually I started throwing up um this was so July 14th uh August 7th I go back in the hospital and they run some test I mean within an hour they said we got to do emergency surgery and call my parents in and uh I mean it was like bang bang bang they had discovered that 36 inches of my intestines had died yeah and and it took from the time of the wreck till then for it to kind of materialize if that makes sense you know that was I don't want to say it was undiscover discoverable in the first week but as uh as i i d digressed you know my intestines just basically were rotting so they went in and did emergency surgery cut my stomach open pulled out 36 inches of intestines the doctor took a a Polaroid picture of what he took out and it looked like a boowa constrictor that had died a week ago that had been beaten with a bat till till it was purple till it was unrecognizable that's what it looked like so he sews me up and he's first thing I say to him when I come to was can I play football this year and he said now you he said good thing you got a red shirt year our head coach Curley hman was in the room too he Curley was like hey don't worry about football you got to so when I walked out a week later uh from the hospital I was 193 lbs really hadn't eaten since July 14th and I was you was hunched over because my back was still in bad shape and uh and to this day I can't believe it but I ended up starting September 8th against Alabama and was uh was about 38 pounds lighter than when I was when I had the wreck and was went from the best shape of my life to really in no shape at that point and the great thing about that story is the first play of the game Jean stalling well let me back up so I get a phone call after the surgery about the third day after in in recovery I'm sitting up in the bed you know I'm starting to kind of make a comeback and my mom or my dad or Dean my wife I can't remember which one the phone rings in the hospital room and they they say and I you know I got the the the flicker for pain medication I'm in and out so it's the head coach of Alabama and I'm like really so he gets on the phone he's like oh Brett I just want you to know I'm pulling for you I hope every and I said when we hung up they said who was it I said it was Bear Bryant he sounded just like Bear Bryant and I was kind of in la la land uh and but it I I thank a lot of Stallings to this day for him calling in um but we ended up playing them September 8th the first play of the game we run a little pass play and I complet a little hitch out to the flat and I get hit right in the balls I mean and you know a good hit in the balls stop you dead in your tracks I fall down and I'm doubled over so our trainer doc Harrington comes running out he's thinking the stitches or the stomach busted open I knew he shouldn't have he came back too soon I mean what are we thinking putting him in the game he comes out there oh my God what is it I said I got hit in the balls and he said oh good I go not good good we end up winning a game I didn't play all that great but maybe I inspired the players and the rest is history quite a story and a WHL win time there I'm sure yeah yeah you know what you said about Jean Stalin is kind of just goes along with anything else you ever hear about him a test a true Testament you know to his character and integrity of who he always heard great things about him and the and and really not related to his coaching ability uh I mean obviously was a exceptional coach but uh even better man you know and uh I've always you know had high level of respect for it as I do for Pat Dy who I got a chance to meet as well and spent a lot of time with Pat we used to do uh me and my wife and about six or seven other of our friends we got into you know cycling and there's a big biking group group here in Hattisburg and I enjoy doing it so we'd go do Bo bikes b m she start which B started after the tornadoes hit and uh bo invited us over so we would we would go over there we did it probably five years in a row and we would stay with Coach Dy out uh not not a SOA I guess that's how you say it at his little farm he had a little cabins we all and he insisted we all stay with him we had dinner with we'd go the night before we'd have dinner we'd hear his stories and what a Storyteller he was and I just thought the absolute world of the coach di I mean that guy did did for Auburn what bear Bryan did for Alabama yeah he was uh I never got the chance to meet him but uh always did respect him you know and you know I've heard a bunch of sto he's told on different documentaries and uh interviews and things like that before he passed and I've always uh I've always liked him and as big Alabama as I am one of my great Honors that I was asked to do I've been asked to do a lot of things and but one of the things that I think I felt almost as much honor to do that as anything else I've ever done including Hall of Fame Jimmy rain who uh you know started Yellowwood and is a super successful businessman and great guy reached out to me not not long before coach D passed away and again coach D had become a really close friend and I thought the world of when Jimmy rain asked me if I would they were honored him and Montgomery they were doing a big thing for it and I wanted to know if I would come speak and I and I remember telling Jimmy I said Jimmy there's far too many guys that coached that were coached by coach D that deserve the honor of speaking not a guy from Southern MTH and he said well you spent a lot of time with him in the last few years and uh we thought maybe you get up and and and Coach D thanks the world you you got up told a couple stories that coach D has told you guys and you know it' just be a fun fun deal so me and my wife we went over and uh I mean the great great crowd I set up there Bo was both spoke so well about his relationship with Coach D and what he meant to him and so I got up there and I said you know and I told the crowd basically what I told you I said you know I don't know if I qualify as a you know as a a spokesman for coach D said but I've had the pleasure of meeting him uh in the last eight years and spent a lot of time with him and just love his storytelling I told I told him one story in particular he was playing golf with some some boosters or donors in Birmingham at Greystone and uh and he coach sty telling a story to to all of our group at dinner one night and he says uh and hell I don't play golf I mean you know but I had to do it for you know get money raised and keep keep the donors on our side and all that stuff so you know it's more work than pleasure for me well my assistant comes running out on the course and says coach die coach die we got a problem he said what is it what is it and I I I I think I I can't remember the quarterback's name it'll it'll come to me here in a second but he said our our quarterback uh is in trouble and he said what what is it he said plagiarism coach D said is it [Laughter] contagious he said no coach it's when you look off of somebody's paper you get someone's copy of their uh book report or whatever and use it for yourself and he says oh hell I thought it was something bad that's funny just I mean they fell out of their seats and I said that's coach D to a te that was funny as hell plagiarism is it contagious oh man uh did you ever think like when you you know playing high school ball and your daddy was a coach and everything that you know You' turned out being pro and all this stuff that's happened for you you know thought about this so much over my career in life and and my wife would would Echo this response because she we were dating when I was in the ninth grade so we used to this is before cell phones the only phone that that was that a family own was a house phone oh yeah you know that was back when you had party lines and all that stuff Young Generation don't even know what a house phone is better yet a party line so we would talk on the phone after everybody went to bed and I shared a room with my two brothers and I would call my girlfriend at the time who was now my wife and we would talk until we fell asleep and then the next morning phone would be off the hook we'd hang it up and go see each other at school but all night I would tell her about how I was going to play for the Dallas Cowboys and uh be the quarterback like Roger stalak and Danny White uh they call my name when I ran out on the field out of the tunnel and uh I had it all planned out I had two goals or aspirations and that was to play pro football or pro baseball and there wasn't a plan C I mean that was it now it all played out just like I had envisioned except I didn't play for the Cowboys um and and I there's not a time that goes by when I don't think about it or or talk about it like like now that I don't uh lose sight of how blessed and thankful I am for that opportunity because how many kids have had the same goals and aspirations millions millions but the the things that could have gone wrong or just the the circumstances could have been a little different and we're not having this conversation right now just maybe one thing yeah could have the stars were in line except for one and that one star out of line detoured me on a different Path U it could have easily gone the other way so I never throughout my 20 years as an NFL quarterback there wasn't a time that there there was a lot of times L latter part of my career where I was like it was kind of work instead of play it it became work I mean it was it became harder to practice not that I didn't want to but physically it it got more demanding things hurt more they stuck with you longer so I can't say that I was always eager and gung-ho about the opportunity but I was always thankful that I had that opportunity so to the answer your question yeah I did uh I just you know I'm also as I reflect I'm also very fortunate that the opportunity presented itself and I made the most of it because you know just I I had one scholarship offer out of high school one and that was the day the day before the signing date I had zero offers yeah and mo most likely I would have ended up playing at Pearl River Junior College which was just up the road from my house and maybe I'd have done okay there and gotten an opportunity at the next level but you know it's funny how it played out I get I get an offer the night before the signing day the coach Mark Mel was was a recruiting coordinator for my area and he called me and he said son we got a guy backed out I'm going to offer your scholarship do you want it I said coach I ain't got no choice it's either take it or nothing oh yeah you know my decision to go to Southern MTH was easy it was Southern Miss or or really nothing and uh you know so when I when I signed the letter I think it was in February is when I had the official signing date and from that time until I reported in July I mean you can imagine I was tickled pink now he said to me he said now look son you I know you want to play quarterback but I I I really sold you as a defensive back and a punter and utility player and I said coach I'm not picking you know I really thought that when I went there and I was going to play baseball as well I got a full scholarship in football but I was going to play baseball and and and if you would have said ask me the day before I reported for my first day of training camp if You' have said the day before Brett I know you're going to play baseball and football what if you had to pick which one do you think you have the best opportunity and most likely will play if you're going to play one in the major leagues of pro football which one would it be I would have said M Major League Baseball because I felt I was better in baseball I could do I could hit both ways I could pitch I could play short I could play the outfit I could do just about anything and my dad had played baseball at Southern Miss as well and that was kind of my wheelhouse you know football I was good at but I didn't know I mean I could throw at 80 yards and and throw it through a brick wall but I didn't know if I could read defenses or or do all that stuff I'd never done it so there was a lot of unknowns football-wise baseball you know you don't have all the technical things that go into it reading defenses calling plays yeah you know so uh I I would have said baseball and when I ended up starting as a true freshman I come spring practice uh or time to go transition over to baseball me and my dad talked about it and he's like you know as much as I want you to play baseball and as much as I think your opportunities are probably better right now at at baseball the fact that you got to start as a true freshman and that gives you four full years of uh we assume four four years of playing you can't afford to miss spring practice and in that development process as you move up the ladder and and I agreed with him so I didn't play baseball and it worked out uh in our favor you didn't ever have no time where you look back and thought well what if this had have happened and I would have played baseball instead how would it went you know because I think about [ __ ] like that I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about it just because I I really didn't have to you know I think a lot of times when we uh look back at at our lives or and I got two daughters I don't have a son I get three grandsons but if I had and I've told my daughters they both played volleyball and uh um my oldest daughter played soccer and and softball and all that stuff but I but I told them I said 'l all you can do and I pushed them you know as as much as I could push them but I didn't treat him like a son but I said if you're going to play something give it all you got because someday I promise you and I tell this to anyone someday you're going to look back and go why didn't I do a better job at working out or preparing or giving my all because when when that H Point happens in your life you can't go back MH generally it's about 20 21 to 25 when you start looking back and going God man I was an idiot you know why didn't I you know I I played but I I was half in and half out you know and so that's when I I think a lot of guys who had an opportunity there's been a lot of guys that had opportunities I played with a lot of guys that had tremendous Talent whether it be college or Pro um that faded away because their work ethic or their Devotion to to their craft and uh and they regret it later yeah I on the other hand and I said this during my hall of fame speech and I was completely honest I said you know I look back on my career and I can honestly say I don't regret anything I I I said you know there's games I wish I would have won I certainly wish we would won more Super Bowls uh but I know I gave it my absolute best and for for that reason I can't regret anything I did I did all I could do and I don't think a lot of people can do can say that they can lie and say that I mean I I I'd be the first to admit my career wasn't always perfect I I I had bad games I had bad Seasons um but it wasn't because of lack of effort or Devotion to the team I was always committed to being the best that I could be to help the team win and and for that I I I have no regrets yeah well you know you had a hell of a arm have U you're not dead no but my arm's about dead but yeah I did you know I well I wondered how did how did you hone that in or is that just something that when you first throw down football you just had it that's a great question and I I coached High School football here at Oak Grove here in Hattisburg for two years after I retired I was offense coordinator uh my dad obviously was a football coach for 35 years um me and my two brothers we we were talented I was I was probably the biggest well I was the biggest out of the three but we all were were quarterbacks for my dad we all could throw we all had good arms but and I tell people this all the time like I I'll get a dad or something say look what's if you g could give my son he's a quarterback and he's 13 years old one piece of advice what would it be now if you pulled all the quarterbacks has played in the National Football League and pulled them for that same question or or with that same question what advice would they give probably all of them would give an answer that would not be like mine I would tell that that kid and that parent throw distance as much as can't you can I said and here's what what I did say you and your son are throwing you just you just throw 10 yards back up to 15 back up to 20 back up to 25 until you get to the point where he is struggling to throw it to you you know with where he's the ball comes out a little flutters and it's it lands at 39 yards and then the next one he throws it and it it goes in over in it's at 38 yards when you get to that point you throw about five to 10 balls until he just slowly throwing it short shorter and shorter and then you stop and then the next day you do the same thing and you'll see that where further he could throw it the day before was 39 maybe the next day it's still 39 but the third day or the fourth day the fifth day it's 42 44 you know it slowly increases and what and that's what I did but I didn't do it there was no when my dad was coaching High School football and I was a young kid I'd be out there you know running balls in practice playing with the big guys throwing and I would throwing the sidelines I can barely hold a big ball but I would throw it that's what I would do I want I wanted to be able to out throw everybody I didn't when I was 15 years old I I wasn't I never thought like this I didn't I didn't uh you know go like I want to know what it's like to read a weak safety Blitz and throw the hot route I my thought was I want to throw it further than anybody in the world and so what I didn't know was I was increasing my arm strength by I I'd have I'd be throwing some of the high school kids and I we'd back up we'd back up we back up and you know it was 30 yards or the furthest I could throw it then it was 40 I found it about 15 I was throwing at 65 yards and and I never took a day off of throwing even when I played Summer League Baseball in high school I would throw distance and distance and what that ended up doing uh unbeknownst to me was if I the furthest I throw was 83 which is that's a long ways now I didn't throw it 83 in the game but what what when you have an arm strength that enables you to throw it that far a 50 yard throw is easy now most people go a 50 yard throw is easy I mean I can't throw it 45 yards and you're saying like for me my game I think for people who follow my career was was really more about making something out of nothing flushed out of the pocket rolling to the left throwing it all the way back across my body to the right or you know faking a boot leg and rolling to my left and no way I should be able to throw a dart 35 yard over a Defender right in the the hands of the receiver well you can't do that if you C if you can only throw a 40 yards yeah you know what I mean yeah so can you be successful with an okay average arm absolutely but you have to be everything has to be perfect the timing their footwork your decision making all that has to be perfect because if you're a little late on throw because your footwork was out of whack it's going to be picked off or it's going to be behind the receiver you know and so for me it bailed me out of a lot of plays and uh you know I I I use my footwork and my legs and I could run early in my career but I would buy time with my legs and then use my arm to make any throw yeah and so yeah early on I knew I could I could throw it in high school I said I haven't come across anyone can even come close to throwing it like me and I'm just talking about velocity and distance so when I when I go reported Southern Miss the first day you know I'm thinking like any kid in my situation you kind of sizing up the talent that you're going against and and I was a little bit intimidated you know before the first practice I'm like maybe I can't throw it like then maybe maybe I'm the best in my County but you know that don't mean that I'm a size up against these guys when I started unleashing it the whole team was like damn did you see that and then I knew I had something that other guys didn't have because now I'm I'm with the best of the best at least in the you know 200 mile radius and they can't throw it even close I like I could throw it uh the the the key was once I really realized that I had something that maybe no one in the world had was now I got to show I I can be accurate with it I can have touch because experts would say you can't have the Velocity and the distance he has and still have touch and accuracy it is just no way it's like a picture that throws 105 you know he'll throw three strikes and you go man but then he'll throw four balls that ain't even close to catchable U but I had to prove that I could do both and and I was able to do that yeah I think about like Happy Gilmore you know he didn't know how to putt and how to play the game but he could drive the hell out of the ball yeah yeah just you know you go oh that guy's the longest driver on the tour yeah but he's ranked 85th yeah it felt good probably to show people you know you knew how to play too yeah yeah I mean my first really my Rook my freshman year at Southern Miss even when I was a starter when I was in practice I I purposely threw the ball like a 12 yard curl you there's no reason to throw it like you you're coming off the mound but I would throw it that way just because I wanted people to go ooh ah even if it broke a finger yeah but then as I you know transitioned into pros and all that stuff I would I would still when when I would practice there would be throws that I would like he he' call play and practice that would potentially be a downfill throw that in my mind would require a little heat on it or I would give a little heat on it just to you know one of those little notch on the Bel but I also would roll out have to as my dad would say I want you to throw that one like a butterfly with sore feet I like the first time my dad said I'm like a butterfly with sore feet he said you come in here just ever so lightly then I you know I started transitioning into know when to throw when and when not to man is he the re is he you know the reason that you grew up loving country music is that you no no I it's funny during that time when I was uh had the surger when I was actually when we went back to Hattisburg after I had the car wreck before the surgery my wife she was she would go to study groups during the and I just kind of hang out at the at the apartment in Doc Harrington our trainer would come pick me up and we' do he'd do treatment over at the facility and then he bring me back and my wife comes in one night you know this is before iPads and yeah uh walkman's and all that stuff but she says and she she like little country I I really but she she if if I liked it 0% she liked it 2% I was more of an old R&B guy and uh like hauling oats and cooling the gang and that was my kind of cup of tea she says you got to hear this song by a guy named Dar Brooks and it was the dance and that was the first song that I was like now I like that and then slowly transitioned into like and Country Music uh and I think everyone assumes that I grew up in the country which I did you know hunting and fishing and uh you know playing hide and seek out in woods where your nearest neighbor is five miles away we lived on a old dirt road half mile long and we had the life but but in saying that I was not a country music fan that's shot the hell out of me yeah at that point oh well I know Hank has said before hanking our big buddies well he I've heard him say before you and your brother told him that y'all grew up driving back roads listening to his music you know and stuff like that uh now I've listened to a bunch of his music but it wasn't early on I got a chance to talk to Hank you know he was doing Monday night football and he was Hank is Hank yeah you know and I think right now and I talked to him last week he's as popular now I said H how's the touring and stuff going he said Brett I'm doing 30 as many shows I want he said I'm doing 30 shows roughly a year and he said they're sold out and I couldn't ask for a better response from my fans and I've always loved Han and thank the world of him and uh hated the way the NFL and all that treated him that was pretty crappy you know that's a damn world we live in now unfortunately yeah and that and and that when that happened that was well before all this crap now oh yeah that was I mean God forbid he's singing it now I mean he can sing it out his shows but it's it's ridiculous I'm uh probably the biggest Hank Jr fan on the planet probably and Sherer Jennings is a good buddy of mine and he's probably the second one and he didn't get into him and he knew Hank his whole life ever since he was born you know cuz Wayan Jennings is dadd Jesse couters his mama and he never really got into the country thing he was into Nirvana and uh Metallica and all this stuff growing up but in his 20s he started getting into believing the lyrics and really listening to them yeah I would say I'm the same way well when was the first time you met him and how did that go Hank I mean Hank and I were talking the other day I meant to ask him that and maybe I've got too many hits to the head but I don't remember the the day we met for I mean I knew who Hank was long before we we actually met but I don't remember the exact moment that we met and what year it was but it was early on in my career and we struck up the friendship and he would always talk about we offseason when you done we us go hunt together come to some of my shows it it never happened uh he he never had a show close to where I was and when I got done with the season deer's hunting was over you unfortunately you know I'd get done late January what heck deer season was wrapping up uh of North had been done so we never played out so we'd always say when I'm done playing what when I said that I didn't know I'd be playing 18 more years you know and then we we just kind of lost uh touch with each other well let me back up we stayed connected for most of my career and one of my priz gifts that I've ever gotten and I was telling you about this other day he gave me a pistol in a case Bose seus case super nice case and six silver bullets and I have yet to take that gun out of that case I honestly I don't even know what model it is but it is the finest gun and I've had more people he taking out and shoot it I'm like hell no I'm not taking out and shooting it and I told Hank about it the other day I said I got the gun in the case I said I don't know if I'm supposed to shoot it I said but I'd rather just stay in that case it looks great right there and he laughed and he said oh I remember giving you that gun that was that was a hell of a gift yeah that and and Richard Petty gave me his hat and signed it wow so that's two two of my favorite gifts he's another one I've never come across Richard Petty but he's another one that just you don't ever hear nothing nothing bad about the man no you know and he had he came in the locker room before a game hour and a half before the game I'm over there sitting by mocker just kind of getting getting slowly dressed and most of the guys had gotten in and this was in Green Bay and uh the head coach's assistant um Gary Reynolds was his name Gary comes walking through which was not uncommon and behind him the Mystique came behind him Richard Petty and the dark sunglasses and the cowboy hat mhm you know you I especially anyone from our generation instantly knows who that is just by the way he's dressed and walked hell yeah and Gary stopped said I want you to meet I know I said I know who he is I don't know him but Mr Petty it's certainly an honor to meet you and uh and I didn't know a whole lot about NASCAR but I knew who in Hell Rich Richard Petty was uh and he took his hat off and signed it and gave it to me I got it in the trophy case now you show the younger generation they go whose cowboy hat is that like Richard Petty well who is he I'm like get out of here yeah it's well I've got on my arm right there you know whings flying W I can't tell you how many people has said what is that what does that mean and I finally got tired damn I told uh somebody I don't even remember who it was a younger person I'm 39 right now but I'm you know I grew up with my grandparents and stuff like that so uh I feel like I grew up like in the 70s when I really grew up like in the 80s and the 90s yeah but I finally got tired of explaining and I said that's a Wonder Woman tattoo I had I had him going for a minute and I told somebody else I think it was Water Burger or something I just started making crap up yeah wallberg hired you to yes Mark wall bers I can use that one too now didn't didn't think about that one uh I saw U I know your buddies with Toby you know you got to be Budi on him his drummer Dave McAfee played on my last record U really nice guy and been with Toby Lord I don't know how many years and uh you know he was really affected I know by how how U the world lost him and it just seemed like they didn't really know you know um I never come across Toby Keith but but anytime anything big happened in the world he was kind of there you know after 9/11 he was the first one there and that song man yeah uh you know speaks for itself and just uh I kind of got an idea of what kind of man he was and I know he did a lot of overseas stuff and you know I know that uh he kind of I feel like he kind of went out on his own terms with the situation that he was dealt and I know you talked to him uh what a week or two yeah before he died I think a week before he passed and he gave no indication that um that the end was near uh nor did I ask well I did ask how he's doing I would check in on him about every three months just send him a message Toby I'm just checking in on you hoping you feeling better uh he'd always fire back oh I'm still fighting it you know uh it it ain't going to get the best of me and all that stuff and I said well I'm praying for you which I was and uh he uh he did tell me that last time we talked that he had quit the chemo because he was going to die for one or the other chemo or that you know if the cancer was going to kill him he'd say kill me but I don't want to die from treatment yeah but he said that the chemo had done so much bad to him they were having to rebuild I I shouldn't say rebuild but resituate his insides and all that stuff and um he was trying to get his appetite back and he sounded me you know when I talked to him on the phone he sounded like Toby you know you'd never know anything was wrong um but I agree with you I think he went out on his own terms um as he did early in his career he went out I I'm not g to say on his on his own terms he went out on his own and took a huge Gamble and became such an ambassador for our country and uh that was maybe not as risky then as it would be now yeah but he took a stand for our country and most of the country backed him the one that there was a large majority that said hell yeah God bless USA you know he he's our heart and soul he kind of was a face of patriotism and uh yeah I've always thought the world of him for that because we need more people like that uh not just country music singers but just people that yeah that speak volumes for what this country is about and uh and he did it as good as anyone yeah amen he uh he you know he left his he he left his Mark uh the main thing when I think about him is that song you know that that um yeah after 911 man that was a that was a big deal well that one didn't I always laugh because I use it all the time and I'm sure a lot of people use it I ain't as good as I once was I'm good once as I ever was yeah how many times have I said that in in my life as I've gotten older uh I think I can do something I was pruning some bushes out around my property yesterday and it was pretty hot and humid for this time of year and I had my britches was sagging off of me and about every five minutes I had to take me a break just kind of sit back and I thought about Toby song I'm like this I'm just you know talking to myself I'm like it ain't like I'm doing hard work right now yeah but it's kicking my butt yeah and I I came in to take a shower I look like I'd been run through the washing machine well you know I one thing I never uh I never really I guess fully understood is what the hell Jerry lamel had against you he just it was like he was just I don't know I feel like he made it he went that extra mile to kind of be dismissive or maybe that's not the word even well I know what you mean and and I I got us uh a pretty good answer later down the road in my career the the and I'll give it as best I can to you so yeah I was I was drafted by Atlanta 91 played one year or I was on the team one year and was traded the Green Bay after that first season so and I've told this story the first time I meet Jerry Glenville I'm drafted on a Friday and the I I back up I was drafted on a Thursday and I had a mini camp I had to be at the next day that was back when the draft happens so you get drafted by a team the next morning you're on a flight to that team and they have mini camps everybody has a standard mini camp and it was for the weekend it was really kind of rookies get to know the you know you shorts and t-shirts and helmets so I had a flight there was two flights out of gulport Mississippi down on the coast straight flight to Atlanta there was one in the morning and there was one in the evening the small airport and I was on the first flight and it was 7:00 or something like that and went from central time to Eastern time so I was going to be I think many Camp started like the first practice was like 11 o'clock so eastern time so 10 o'clock my time so I got about an hour and 20 minute flight I'm going be pushing it to get there get dressed get out on the field but obviously they knew that well my flight's delayed so I'm late so the guy that picks me up in Swani Georgia was way on the other end from the airport Airport's bottom leftand corner of Atlanta Swani is going up towards Athens so I got probably a 45 minute drive at best so the guy that picks me up at the airport Danny mock he was like in scouting is he and I we driving up to Swan and I'm I'm like sweating bullets I'm like Danny this is not good it happens all the time and and it does as I look back in retrospect I mean it wasn't the end of the world but I'm thinking I'm late for my first practice so we get to Swan pull up the facility and it's probably 11:30 so they're 30 minutes in I run in throw on my my shorts t-shirt helmet run out there Danny's waiting for me and he Jerry's the first person that we come to and he's got his back to me he doesn't he doesn't see me coming he's got a cowboy hat on he's got a horn in his back pocket one of those loud horns and he's got a black windbreaker on I'll never forget and Danny says hey coach Coach Jerry turns around he's got dark sunglasses on he said got your quarterback here Jerry says Hey Mississippi Mississippi what school you from Mississippi and I thought to myself that's kind of a weird question he just drafted me so I said you know eager to Brown those and and get on his good side I said I'm Southern Miss coach and he goes gosh dang it we drafted the wrong guy we wanted a guy from Mississippi State and I I I thought to myself a lot of things went through my head I'm like am I supposed to laugh at this is that a joke serious cuz he said it like he was serious and I said uh I kind of laughed and he said get get your ass out there to practice so I go out to practice and from there it went downhill from there he just anytime he had an opportunity to ridicule or criticize me or he did and uh I was drafted 33rd pick which was in the second round and the more he put his you know thumb on me and just suppressed me the more I retreated more I drank and partied and even missed the team pitcher I mean I I digressed the whole year put on 25 pounds I'm like I I'm G never play again I'm a just and then lo and behold I get traded for a first round pick so it's like I did nothing never played got drunk put on weight and yet it ended up getting me traded for a first round pick so it's like how I got redrafted but in the first round so I knew this was too good to be true well later down 10 years later we hired a guy named Shan herck whose dad was Ken herck was the general manager for the Atlanta Falcons when I was drafted well Ken always was nice to me my year with Atlanta he was always very polite and always Lifting me up you know keep keep your head in there keep working I know I know it's frustrating he was always encouraging but we never he never called me in his office and said look here's what's going on so I I always kind of wondered what what the deal was why Jerry was why like he was I mean I mean I'm talking about I didn't do anything to get on his bad side initially but yet I was on his bad side so Shan comes in who I didn't know and he's like the director of Scouting For the Packers and he he and I hit it off we would how's your dad doing time I said hello and one day I said Sean what in the heck went on why what what what and he said Brett obviously my Dad loved you thought the world of you and it was his decision to draft you but Jerry did not want to draft you not because you were you he wanted to draft a different position he didn't want a quarterback he wanted a defensive player and they argued over like Jerry was I don't know how this argument played out but I could see him in the draft and Jerry's like we need a defensive player who could get on the field right now and help us this guy's not GNA play quarterback for us we got for several years we got a guy Chris Miller who still got some good years left which is true and that makes sense uh but Ken was like no this guy's if we don't get now we're not going to get him I can't believe he slid to the second round so I'm going to take him knowing that I probably wouldn't play my first year so Jerry was pissed yeah so Jerry in his mind now this is speculation on Ken or Sean's part but it makes sense Jerry's like I'm gonna make life miserable on Ken by just you know ruining Brett's career yeah uh and he and and he did that did that and so did Sean Sean said he said my dad didn't want to trade you but heck you didn't play your first year and you get traded for a first round pick I mean you can't you can't pass that up which you can't and uh the rest it's history well uh have you ever thanked him cuz that was the best thing that could have happened to you probably at that time yeah you know people have asked me about talked to Jerry since then a couple times but we never really we never had a he was he actually did commentating a few years he did some of my games and I had to meet with the the commentators before every game like the day before well I remember meeting with him and I was like yeah Jerry said in front of the whole group that was in there I knew he was going to do it I knew he was going to make out he was going to be a star or something day I'm thinking I I I didn't throw him undery of the bus I'm thinking myself you so Li you lying piece of [ __ ] D well that's probably the best yeah I'd say it worked out you think 96 was probably your favorite year out of all of them yes it no for for different reasons 96 was one of my favorite years as a team because we won the Super Bowl it was a great team yeah but it was even it was even greater a group and I think that's that's one thing I tell people all the time especially like when I do talks like for corporations and stuff like that I'm like you know I played 20 years and saw some really good teams I played against and played on some really good teams and I've played against some really bad teams and played on a few bad teams I said to me the the most talented team doesn't most almost never is the team that wins the Super Bowl it's the best team the the the greatest group that love each other enjoy playing feed off of each other pick each other up when they're down just have a lot of fun together and that's what we were in 96 but I think individually My Favorite Year uh for for different reasons was my first year in Minnesota you know i' kind of been been put out the pure and even I questioned if I still had anything left and I'm in year 19 I mean you know there's not a lot whole lot of expectations outside that think well his better days are behind him that was kind of the consensus and I end up going to min Minnesota and uh we almost make the Super Bowl statistically speaking it was my best year of all 20 years and uh I I never felt more welcomed by by a team than I did that year and I it was I needed I needed that yeah U uh I didn't realize I needed that until after the year was over and I looked back and I went that was special that was special was that why you came came back is just to try to like you was trying to prove to yourself or needed that re how that thing played out so I played 16 years in Green Bay and just uh had had some wonderful years I wish we' won more Super Bowls but we won one and lost one but had a great run so my 16th year in Green Bay I remember vividly at different times throughout That season maybe one day in training camp I'm sitting there in the dining hall with everybody and I look around the room no one knew that I was thinking this I never told people any of this but I look around the room and I would think the guy that has been here the longest including coaches I was on my fourth coach uh head coach Mike hren Ray rhods Mike Sherman and now Mike carthy I'm on a new GM the third GM by the way Ron wolf is the guy who brought me in all these guys are gone so the new GM the the new front office management there's a new president uh new board members obviously new players nobody on that team in in not in 2007 was there for any of my years with Mike H up until 98 so I'm looking around the room and I think to myself how weird the feeling was that I had that I felt like the outsider even though I was the longest tenured person of anybody not just players in that room yeah but yet I felt like the outsider I I didn't not so much that I got treated differently but I was an odd man out if that makes any sense and u i I just I I sort of felt a little not not that I it was a bad pressure but I just felt pressured to that if I didn't perform at a level that they were okay with they were just waiting for the opportunity to get rid of it now that may sound crazy to some but that's the way it works yeah and I got it I I wasn't mad I wasn't I you know was again I like I said it the early show I was very thankful for the opportunity each and every year so I was like I'm still the quarterback and I never took it for granted but so that year my last year in Green Bay in 2007 of all the years in my 16 years in Green Bay statistically speaking I played my best that year so if they were wanting to get rid of me I didn't do a good job of helping them do that you know but I did we lost the championship game to the Giants in Green Bay it was a devastating loss and the next day I packing up everything getting ready to go home the last thing I wanted to think about was football uh I was devastated yeah uh the general manager Ted Thompson who I was friends with had always made it a point to come see me at the end of the year and say hey we want you back BR you know I think he was a GM for five years and he would come L me up and say go back home get away well this year that year losing to the Giants the next day he he never came by to see me and it dawned on me that may there may be a reason that he doesn't want not that he doesn't want me to come back but he doesn't want to encourage me to come back because they're ready to move in a different direction that that was the thought I had in my mind and a month passes I'm home doing stuff out on my property not staying as far away from football as possible because at that point I didn't I was still devastated from the loss yeah the head coach called me and uh right away he was like Mike McCarthy who's Dallas's coach Mike was like well you made a decision I said Mike it's way too early I said right now I don't want to think about football and he's okay okay and then the calls be became more frequent you know what took a month for the first one took two weeks for the second one then a week for the third one then it got to be you know we need to know we need to know and technically I didn't have to I was under contract so I didn't have to say anything I could have said I I'll wait till June to figure that out I could that's what it should have done but as he progressed in is uh you know asking me what am I going to do at some point one day on the phone I said well if you're asking me if I'm committed to the team right now I'm not not 100% committed to the team so if that if you want to call it retiring yeah I'll retire just I I honestly when I said that the next day I was on a plane to press conference they said well we'll send the plane down and we'll bring you up for a press conference and I started crying at the press conference and told him I was retiring and I loved every bit of which most of that was true and at the time I was devastated didn't want to think about football a couple weeks later I'm like I don't know I may have been a little premature because I always comp compared or looked at the end of the football season and the start of the next year's football season much like and I think people can relate to this your your 12 years of grade school you two or three weeks before the end of school man you're chomping at the bits to get into the summer you can't you you can't get out of school quick enough and man you're riding high you're at the creek swimming you're playing baseball you got sleepovers with your buddies you're playing hide and seek you know you're doing all stuff and you don't even think about school then about two two weeks before school starts you kind of kind of ready to go back you know as crazy as that sounds you're kind of ready to go back you know new New Year school new clothes new classes that's the way it was in all season you know season's over you don't want to think about football and you get away from it then as it gets closer you start getting that edge and that was that was what happened and then you know I had to go back up there in order to do something whether I played there or got traded I had to go up and and work a deal out of some of some sorts either play uh and I knew that they wanted to transition into Aaron Rogers which I understood he was in the end of his contract he was a first round pick and they had to re reup his contract and if if you were a bman and you were the GM at the Packers at that time and you said okay do we stick with Brett or go in a different direction kind of start over again what are the chances of Brett playing as well as he did last year in in year 18 slim and none I you know if I were on that in in on that conversation I probably said yeah you know it's maybe we need to just cut cut our losses and go on so that's basically what they did and I wasn't mad about that uh and so what I was mad about was they didn't want to let me just go yeah like when pton went to Denver he Indianapolis just cut him loose he could have signed with anyone so he could have signed with a you know a a cult uh our trial but they didn't want to let me go into our division and that kind of pissed me off you know I I think I use the term so I'm not good enough to play for you but I'm too good to play against you sort of thing and that and I got traded to the Jets and I felt like they got what they wanted because I'd go there and never be heard of again strange sort of way that's what happened and then I get traded to Minnesota and the rest was history well you know uh I thought it was cool cuz I watched your speech for the pro pro football hall of fame all the Green Bay fans you oh incredible you know after all it it was a after after your whole you know career for them for to have that kind of support you know for them it I still get chill bumps when when I was inducted to the Packer Hall of Fame they did something that they've never done before and it was really special I was the only one inducted that year that they've never done one induction in in any year it's always been a collection of players and coaches or and they just said this is your year and it was five years after I retired and I had not been back to Green Bay and I was you know anticipating that time and the day before we we flew up there and I we checked into the hotel and I I never left and just Was preparing my speech and getting ready for it and I I be honest with you I was really nervous at will I be received like I hope I would be received I didn't really know how it was going to play out they said we walk out on the field first say say something to the fans that want to watch the induction from the stadium and then we'll go inside into the atrium and do the induction so I'm thinking will there be anybody in the stands I mean well there was 75,000 in the stands and when I walked out of that tunnel 75,000 just to watch a guy say 15 or 20 minutes of words was I mean it was unbelievable I I could not have been more just thankful for the response that I got from from those Packer fans and then it it carried over to the Pro Football Hall of Fame induction and that they were deafening it was it was really special well I mean it's welld deserved you know they can't you're you're a big part of you know kind of putting them you know on the map back on the map yeah I mean you really are and that that's got to be a a good feeling too to look back you know now and realize that not an ego thing but just knowing that you contrib red so much to a huge thing you know that's got to be a great a great feeling you made a lot of people happy you know uh the fan base I mean I've always heard that you know the Packers fans are like insane fanatic about the Green Bay Packers yeah they are yeah there a special group of fans uh he's driving in Green Bay and you go this is it I mean it's in the city limits 75 to 100,000 people huge huge huge franchise in the smallest Market by far uh primarily a rural rural state farming Blue Collar uh state in today's world you would that the last place you would ever think about opening a NFL franchise or Pro uh franchise of any sort would be in Wisconsin M but I think it's like a 110 year wait for a season ticket now I mean that tells you a lot there's gazillion people waiting for that season ticket I mean you can't you can't fill a a football stadium in New York half the time or LA and they're they're waiting 110 years in Wisconsin for a season ticket I mean it's pretty incredible unreal special place and it it's changed just since you've been out of it it's changed a lot you know the whole league and college football it it's just it's changing you know look at Nick Sabin uh coming you know terms with his retirement and we never really we knew it would happen one day yeah but we didn't really know when it would be but you know he said something the other day I think on to one of the ESPN guys or something he said the nil and you know everything they're doing now uh not necessarily wrong or you know I'm paraphrasing but you know when you when you talk to 80 85% of the guys and they want to know two things things how much playing time am I going to get you know uh and how much am I going to get paid that's not really him and his his whole process that he talks about is for building character and trying to help these people succeed in life yeah you can't have guys coming in like oh I'm already a star you know I'm already going to be you know before I mean it just doesn't work and it I think that kind of goes with the the whole way Society is now and everything it just kind of goes along with it it may be the beginning of the end of college football I mean I don't know well like we know what it is yeah the days Southern Miss beating Alabama and Auburn you know that I talked about we beat Florida State one year uh almost beating Georgia those days are long gone because it was almost impossible to compete with those teams back then but at least you had loyalty to your team and if you have a guy at Southern Miss that has a good year say a receiver has his first year he has a great year he's gone get paid by somebody else to go play and I I can't blame the kid for you know not taking the money but you know the rich get richer and even even Alabama's been affected by it uh and there I mean Nick s was on top of the the hill for forever but when it's even affecting him and how you plan your season every year you don't know who's going who's going to be with you uh who's coming in well you get you know this guy that is highly sought after can you get the boosters to Fork over enough money to I mean it's just crazy yeah I mean it's really GNA be like a 18 college football and then everyone else yeah oh I don't like it have you ever get any you know words of encouragement from Nick Sabin throughout your years no you I actually he actually coached against me a couple times as a coordinator um you know he's with belich and with uh oh what's his name uh coach the giant for a long time Bill Parcels that tree but uh no we never ever had a conversation you know how you always seem to stay pretty grounded you know pretty rooted to who you are and how you how you grew up throughout all your success and everything yeah you know I mean a lot a lot of that has to do with family and how you raised and uh I mean we me and my wife we grew up together uh we've always been thankful for what we've had uh we we we certainly haven't been perfect but we try to treat people respect and and kindness yeah uh like you would want to be treated yourself you know the yeah old saying treat people like you want to be treated I think it's so true my my mom was a special education teacher for 35 years my dad was a football baseball coach for 35 years and taught drivers that I don't know how they made it $440,000 combined salary with four kids uh but but we made it we never they never missed a ball game and you know every ball game my my two daughters played in even when I was playing if I could make it I made it and you know just trying to be really good at uh you know being a good parent yeah and I'm just a good person and you know I'm one that open the door for someone you know just something simple help help someone given the chance and uh not expect anything in return sort of mentality that's that's a a lost quality in a lot of people nowadays we're losing Humanity now I I used to love sitting down with my grandparents and asking them questions I thought it was cool to learn how things were done when they were kids and what it was like and it ain't like that today you know I mean when I coached High School football and this I tell people this all the time I had a great group of kids we won a state championship my second year uh and I I really had a lot of fun I didn't think I I sort of did as a favor for the head coach he Pro made me promis that I would be his offense coordinator when I retired and he held me to that and I thought I don't know if I want to do this but I did it and it was it was really rewarding one of the first days at practice I told the offensive guys I said now look if any of you guys want to stay after practice and get some extra work in throw run routes whatever or you want to watch extra film I got nothing but time and that was and that was true I I said I got nowhere to go so just grab me say coach let's watch the me film not once not once did they ever take me up on that really and that blows my damn mind it had that been the case when I was growing up Roger stal back would have came and helped us and he said that there would come a point where he said look Brad I gotta I gotta go you know I got to get home but and and it was a great group of kids I loved them but they just preoccupied with other things and just you know they were ready to get out of there I mean they they had to grown up watching you oh yeah I trained there every year in all season it's right down the road so right up until the time I had to go to Camp I was throwing with them and running with them and all that stuff they watched me on TV but you know you'd have thought that some someone would have been like coach just watch extra film would would have been eating it up yeah but different generation man I know it's it is it's totally a little worried about it actually I try not to think about it loyalty loyalty and respect uh whether you black white just Hispanic whatever mhm um there's it's all about you're in your own little world and it's sort of sad it is sad yeah mean it's what kind of world is this generation growing up into and their kids yeah my God you know um what all the Hollywood stuff it comes along with all this you know like you're you're seening there's something about about Mary I don't know how that came about but I didn't know if you were just trying to just kind of dabble and act in or if that was an opportunity that came up and just you know that was at the peak of my career and everybody wanted me to do something I got an offer to be in a movie my agent bus lives right down the road and he back then he didn't have to do much work they were people were calling in all the time for you know I turned down more stuff back then and that's one of those things that I had no aspirations ever still to this day certainly not then of being an actor going transition into something like that um but we'd won the Super Bowl and it was all season and bus said uh as he always would do he called me and said you want you want to get into acting and I said never crossed my mind why he said well there's this new comedy coming out I don't think they knew he knew when it was coming out but the uh the producers asked if you would do a part in a movie a cameo and I said he said don't pay nothing which it wasn't about that yeah they pay pay you $800 or something like that but you I said where I got to go how long I got to do do it that was always my I didn't want to commercials first few times I did commercials I was like this is what you do for a commercial you spend two days for a 30 second commercial and it was my cup of tee so I'm thinking a part in the movie that may be a week he said well they need you to come down to Miami they'll fly you down there on the private jet and uh spend the night film the next day and you'll be out of there and I said all right I'll do it didn't know anything about the movie so I flew down me and my wife flew down to Miami um the afternoon before met the Cass Ben Stiller one of his first movies I think Cameron Diaz Matt Dylan uh great cast they were super nice and the Fairly but Brothers I think were I don't know if they were the producers or directors or whatever had a real good resume I didn't know much about them but they had a long list of hits and I I was nervous as I all get out even though I I'd gotten used to doing commercials I kind of on the commercial you kind of it's It's kind of just you this one there was a whole cast watching and I was nervous Nelly and they they said all right here's the lines say them how you would normally say them and I was like uh we're in Miami to play the Matt Dylan's right right in front of me looking at me and the camera's over his shoulder and the whole time he's got these fake teeth in and he's making faces at me and I couldn't I'd start laughing they cut cut cut and after a while Matt Dylan said if you want to get it over with you got to do it right and I was like okay so you just got to suck it up and the the part that you see I when I watch it I'm like good Lord did I look stiff and nervous and so I always tell people I should have won an Oscar because they told me to act stiff and nervous and I did a great job of acting in fact I was nervous as hell but it finally it was like we're in town to play the Dolphins was one of my lines and uh and I kept saying we're in town to play the Dolphins and they were like that ain't how you would say it finally I said we're in town to play the Dolphins you dumbass that's it that's it but it was it was a blast I got s in a couple offers to do some other opportunities like that but it ain't my cup of tea certainly not now you know with this legal crap going on in Mississippi I can't sell lemonade to into the driveway yeah here was just you know know allegations against you right now and I'm sure you can't really talk much about it but you you know just say whatever you want to say about it basically yeah um well you'd have to be living in a hole if you haven't heard about it and uh unfortunately there's a gag order that I can't defend myself in any way uh uh and and and I don't want to test the the judge but uh so out of respect for her I can't talk about it but it's a civil lawsuit they're trying to recoup money that they allege has been stolen or misappropriated um and I look forward to the day that I can tell my side maybe I I'll write a book I'm not much of a book guy but maybe I capitalize on it like some others have capitalized on my behalf well maybe it won't you know drag out too long either you know how these things can be it's already drug out for three or four years yeah and with no end in sight I say say that because nothing's happened yeah we're trying to get a try we're trying to do something get them to do something a trial or you know just hear the case let us but I've learned that the legal system moves out of snail's space we file motion they file motion we file motion they file motion like tennis back and forth back and forth and it's costly oh I can imagine you still do any work with Wrangler at all or you done with them no they they parted ways with me a long time ago and they they when they party ways with me they went with Drew Brees I I think that lasted a couple of years but I still and people all the time say you still wear Wranglers you know I mean when they went with Drew Brees and Drew is a friend of mine I thought you I'm not saying this uh I'm Not tooting my own horn but if anybody related to raining whether I wore them or not you it seemed like the perfect fit and uh I I I still get people saying something with Wrangler connection or copperfit and copperfit took a pause when all this legal stuff yeah CEO is a good good guy good friend and he said Brett you know let's just take a pause and I said I get it so whether or not I I get any to you know solicit my um expertise and marketing or lack thereof expertise will remains to be seen when all this is settled do you think you have uh CTE you think you're you've took some your the concussions and stuff over the years man I would say yeah there's no there's no way they can test for for CTE for a living brain not that I know was uh but there's no question that 20 years four in college so 24 and two in high school has taken a toll and you know when I was 30 the last thing I thought about was what the toll was going to be like when I'm in my 50s or 60s or 70s I was just living the dream sure but now it's it's it's scary you see more more former players killing themselves something happen you know an ailment or something related to football and no one's played as long as me or as many games as me so I it's not you know I'm not going to be here and say boy I've dodged every bullet that's come my way I you know I'm I often wonder what lies ahead yeah um kind of and that's why I have no desire for my three grandsons to play football I've never pushed him to play the oldest is 13 he plays soccer the youngest I mean this middle one's nine he plays baseball and soccer and the the youngest is not playing anything yet but I've never said y'all play football if they want to play it I'll support it but if they don't want to play Perfect pick up a golf club play soccer play baseball something like that well I mean I totally understand why you would encourage that and uh discourage football you've been you know you been your your life and yeah I mean it's done a lot of great things for me and my family a lot and I don't want to to knock football I knew yeah certain degree what I was getting I knew it was a physical game I didn't know the repercussions of concussions at at any point in my career we're still finding that out but it's not good and there's no telling how many there's no way I've had people how many concussions you had I'm like that's an impossible answer to give um Lots much like a boxer ask a boxer how many concussions he's had name the day I mean and how how many I mean it's it's it's it's it's a wait and see and it's kind of frightening what along I've had my hip replac and back surgery in the last 12 months and that you can say yeah it's kind of expected you know kind of part of the job but the brain stuff is really where it's really scary you know I mean every guy that's played a long time in some cases not a long time has had rotator cuff surgery knee replaced uh you know something down the road that was football related but you deal with that and Technology's got a lot better you you walk out same day with a hip replacement I mean you it's it's doable and you can live a somewhat Pleasant life but the brain stuff is totally different animal yeah the uh don't the ain't it like a nonivasive surgery like a laser now for hips yes and no they uh of course I was asleep but they have to cut the femur and the doctor that did it's a good friend of mine and he said if you ever watched a hip replacement you would never get it done he said we're sawing on the femur but a lot of it they do is robotic uh but still they have to get part of the femur out capsule out and put a titanium rod down the femur and they Hammer that in but it feels a lot better yeah that's probably enough one of them things my back to stay the same I'm having all kinds of issues with my back and you know unfortunately technology like what I need is some joint Replacements in my back they don't have that I got arthritic joints that are just compressing the nerves and I got terrible leg pain and last week I was ready to have surgery it hurt so bad all week everything I did just severe pain this week it's Hit or Miss next week could be back to all week and there's you know my my good buddy is the back doctor his name's Jay and I said Jay can't we do something he goes you need joint Replacements but buddy we don't have that he don't want to do the same surgery over and over and clean out that arthritis because it comes back it's like calcification you know I always compare tell people it say it's like a coral reef you sink a ship and then coral reef attached to it and and it it grows you could scrape it off but it comes back that's my back so it's a I got about eight weeks of relief last time and then it came back I know your buddies was Steve Austin he's had quite a few things done uh I don't think he's had anything done to his back but I know he's had his his knees of course and all that he's had quite a bit of stuff done I think he seemed yeah he looks good you know I I try to stay in as good a shape I don't lift much weights I me I kind of gotten where weights I frown upon them not that I need to lift but I I do bike a bunch I try to bike 150 miles a week if I can whether it be indoor or outdoors and uh I enjoy doing it it's it's easy I mean you can obviously wreck and get banged up and that's going to happen if you bike long enough but for the most part joints are me running I would love to go out and run a 5k which I've done those days are over with a bad back and a hip replaced pounding on the joints is certainly not what you want to do so biking is good for you know taking the load off the joints and I enjoy doing it you know Diamond Dallas Paige I know I don't know him but I know who he is he's got a thing it's called DDP Y and it used to be called DDP Yoga and it's not yoga you know like the traditional yoga but man he has really changed people's lives that have been in a wheelchair there's this guy Arthur uh he went on Joe Rogan talking about it and everything it is really an amazing program I'll send you some stuff I mean it's uh you ought to you hooked up with him that would that would be beneficial probably yeah well you know I my whole career I never stretched like we'd have a team stretch and I'd be over there grab ass and telling jokes I was just never a stretcher I thought if I could touch my toes I was doing good and I could always touch my toes here in the Twilight of my life I realized that I should have been stretching you know throughout my career it didn't really affect my career but it's affecting it after yeah it's not the reason I got arthritis but it certainly it helps the arthritis be worse by by constricting everything yeah so I've tried to incorporate more stretching and uh I'm paying for it now that I've done a little yoga and I I used to laugh at people doing yoga but after that first session I was like I think playing football was easier well yeah I I laughed at it too and I went to uh Atlanta he's got a place there and just me and him he put me through one session of it and I said man kick my ass like really show me the full thing he kicked my ass and his his slogan used to be an ancient Mama's yoga because it's it he has a way of incorporating uh resistance just by using tensing up your muscles while you're stretching at the same time I'll I I'll hook you up you need to check that out that'd be good man I appreciate your time a lot uh it's good to talk to you and U you know glad you're sitting here with us through all the addictions and injuries man I mean it's just you know let's do it again life fragile man you know and glad you're here hope everything works out uh works out for you yeah when all all this is uh behind me we'll have let's have another chat yeah or he'll come here and I we'll go eat Mexican food or something barbecue I'll take you up on that there's no question about it