Claim To Fame Season 3 Finale Recap

hey everybody what's going on Rob Cino back for the claim to fame finale season 3 what a wild ride this was there were Thrills and Spills and so much to talk about and let's bring in the world's greatest claim to fame expert Jenny Autumn Jenny how are you oh my goodness I am reeling Rob I you know what uh uh this finale said can I touch you there in your heart in your soul and I said yes you can uh I I am satisfied yes that's that's what people would say after a night of Michael Bolton and I am feeling pleased with ultimately how this all turned out yes okay uh the wildest ride here through two hours of claim the fame where we have our winner Adam the unlikeliest of winners who said who needs a social game to win claim to fame and we will break it all down with uh not one but two episodes and not one but two great guests back with us first Maggie Morgan Maggie how are you I'm good I'm so so happy to be here I love claim to fame I love you guys I am it's going to be so much fun this episode was weird I can't wait to talk about all of it with you I I'm just I'm pumped to be here very excited to have you here and then of course very excited to have here with us a man who has a shot named after him have you ever had a Chappelle and melon shot it's Chappelle it's called a Chappelle show Rob and uh yeah I I've done a little damage at some bars before they know me up in in in certain places sometimes it's shot clock yeah that should be the name of the shot as well you know but uh no I'm very happy to be here talk about clan of Fame I I do love this show like Maggie was saying this is this is great y'all are great and the show was amazing and I don't think anybody could have guessed that three seasons in this would be one of my favorite strategy shows uh on TV yeah it was got a little disjointed in that we missed a week last week that they did expanded DNC coverage so we ended up with two episodes tonight but definitely took some twists that we were not expecting as we have a lot to break down here on this episode what what do you think the chances are we can get an Adam interview Jenny oh my gosh at I mean at this point I don't know I don't know I we've we've interviewed some great claim to fame personality personalities over the last two seasons uh so I wouldn't rule it out and I would I'm dying to know things uh Sam as do you want one yes yes I would I wouldn't hypothetically raise the question if I didn't want one yeah how am I supposed to live without one I see what you did there yeah I would love that I would love that that'd be so exciting uh Chelle could you put Adam into perspective for us uh yeah so Adam the winner I think was as you called him an unlikely winner but also I guess he was really hard to root for at times I think that of all the claim to fame winners we have a story a different story for each of them uh you know in season one we really had the Logan and LC partnership that was just so amazing and everybody was rooting for them almost like as a unit and then the last season we saw Gabriel do his thing by himself like moving through like different alliances and bobing and we but this this was a scrappy win this was this was grimy he got down he was listen he was uh spying on people uh stealing people's answers writing names that he didn't even know down on his wrist just to get through from round to round and then when it came down to it and a social game was needed when the the love and admiration of your other competitors were needed the people you screwed over were really GNA H your back they didn't and he still prevailed I'm sorry I cannot hate this man he dids yeah [Music] okay yeah I mean I think that it goes to show like the best thing you can do on the show is be underestimated like that is the key to winning claim to fame like Elsie was underestimated people thought that she wasn't as sneaky as smart like that she wasn't as in the no Gabriel incredibly underestimated yeah Adam like it doesn't matter how liked you are people just have to not see you as as much of a threat in my opinion Jenny I really thought that we had in this final three challenge everybody's running around and somehow Adam hurts himself again challenge the same thing like the same part he hurts himself again and I mean and this man we've seen him uh like eating things like broken things from the blender like he's accident waiting to happen but uh he gets hurt again and I'm like oh you know what this is going to be the thing that he is going to finally get sympathy this was brilliant because now they all were plotting against him but now now they'll feel bad for him that this is what he needs they did not feel bad for him no it didn't still but Rob it didn't matter because even at the point that Adam got injured and the only thing that could have screwed him at that moment is if he was completely taken out of the challenge fully metac could not win could not continue because at that point despite the fact that no one was helping him no one had any sympathy for him McKenzie and HUD had already dug their own grave and handed this m man the win and he had all of the information he needed already he didn't need anyone so this is why I will say a couple episodes seemed like a wild wild way that this could how could we get to the end with with Adam winning uh he's going to need he's going to need to rely on the help of the returning people and they're all going to be bitter but we discounted Adam and despite the fact that he only stayed in the game at points because of the help of others he did give him his flowers he did figure out two people mostly by himself on his own with no help of anyone else and he whether you know it was because HUD and McKenzie kind of screwed themselves by going after each other won the challenge fair and square and put him in a situation where he could guess like he didn't need anyone anymore that's impressive it is he in reinvented the way the game is played well but Jenny that's what I'm saying it's he was underestimated they were like we're going after each other because he there's no way that he'll know who we are like he doesn't know anything he can't ever know anything so why would we waste our time trying to get out of out when this person HUD and Mackenzie are like I've been working with them they're smart they're going to figure me out like it it really like I'm saying the underestimation is the is the key here but yeah they look they identified their goat they're like if I get to the end with him I win and they were wrong yep yeah I mean it is wild because he did know everything I mean that was the thing about him where it was like oh he's a dummy uh he thinks that Little Richard is and he had all sorts of other bad ideas and he was like uh all these like hairbrain plans and they were all bad and I think that they didn't think that he could put it all together by the end and you know what it's weird because they didn't even have the right answers at the end like they didn't know his uh his claim to fame they were begging the jury basically to help them like please just tell me anything whereas he is walking around here with their both of their information just chilling you know immediately caught on to the cougar uh clue figured out AC I just knew he was going to say the wrong name you know so for me I was like at least this is the person with the most information at the end lowy he deserves to win it to him now Jenny was he just then in those final moments just so overconfident where he was then just telling people Clues to who he was because he knew he was going to guess both times I was screaming but then I had to think about it cuz I was like what is this man doing because but also it's so hard to say because because like you said Rob there were points in the season where he would get so fixated on an idea that like he only saw what he wanted to see it was not correct so but then there were other times where he was really good at putting things together and even some of like his hairbrain you know ideas that he had he had at least like things to back it up he had I think once he drank the clue I think that that really changed that changed at all the I don't know HUD helped him out again I guess with the with blending up that clue um I I think that that at that point I I was freaking out at first because I even until the point where he says that he's going to guess McKenzie I was like what a wild unpredictable player there is still a nonzero chance that he uh is filled with some sort of confidence and is like these people don't know me I'm going to make her guess me um let's do this a little like unorthodox um but no I think that at that point he knew he had both of them figured out he knew he was in a position where he was going to be able to guess both of them and uh you know he want he he knew everyone was against him he knew people were trying to lead him down the wrong path I think he just wanted to have a little fun and flex to his buddies um I think that that's what he's doing but again hard to say without him who knows man had a that's why you have to talk to him head injury as as well uh that day yeah like did they give him drugs at the hospital and I I also am like I have to say the reason that Adam stayed in that episode with Naomi was because of Hud like HUD HUD has to be kicking himself you know he's my my presumed layup here really got the best to me yeah yeah um so badly this season I wanted to have Jesse Lopez come on the podcast as HUD by side yeah I mean too late now no definitely not I I thought HUD might have had a chance and then I realized no no the prophecy has already been written this is our Jesse Lopez of the season I was just waiting on his downfall I was not expecting the showmance was not expecting that is Adam the gabler I think he's ad gabler yeah Phil said this earlier today cuz I thinging this was like a Survivor like this season I was trying to figure out like how I don't know it felt very Survivor because I because I said to Phil I was like I love an absurd ending this almost feels like Chris Underwood winning like you know what I mean like just I love when there's a finale and a winner that is just laughing like you're just laughing about how how crazy it is and Phil he said he's like gabler so I think that I honestly think the comparison is Adam like that he he was he was in the water yeah but he was like the opposite of gabler in that gabler you know in the beginning of his season was like very high-profile and then gabler okay now I'm going to go under the radar now I'm GNA hide Adam was never hidden he was the he lived rentree in the heads of the players all season long yeah they were obsessed with him they were trying to get him out at every turn nobody had ever heard of Michael Bolton before which is wild which is wild there have been some big names on this show and there have been some smaller names and Michael Bolton is it's a massive name but I don't know Rob I was listening to your criteria about like celebrities that are super well known what you call them and they like like you were like ranking them like you have your International big celebrities and then you got like smaller tiers of celebrities Michael Bolton's somewhere in that middle yeah name yeah tell tell us that you're the youngest person on the panel so uh like what what is your knowledge of Michael Bolton none none have you ever heard the name of Michael Bolton before I have heard the name Michael Bolton before had you heard When a Man Loves a Woman yes but I honestly he wouldn't have known it was Michael Bolton no I would have thought probably like I I put him sort of in the same category of like and I I could be totally wrong like time in what whatever but like to me he reads like Bob Seager esque you know like in that air like I have like a blind spot sort of there um no I I don't know Lonely Island Maggie I I I'm telling you I do one Bob Seager and Michael Bolton probably are both like soft rock uh artists if you had that station on but I think it's a little bit a little bit of a different style of adult alternative yeah what what about uh okay Trace Atkins or John melan Camp either of those I I know John melan Camp okay thank God I very deeply know John Millan Camp love John mamp um but no Trace Atkins no I've heard the name but I wouldn't have come up with that myself at all and the clues like I have again very big blind spot country music like that I I have I have so much pop culture knowledge but my biggest blind spot is country music Maggie same but if you hear a song song called Honky Tonk bonad donk that lives in your brain for the end of the end of time and that's the only reason I know him I know that song but I didn't know it was Trace Atkins does he also sing Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy I don't know I really only know him from the Celebrity Apprentice why do I know that is my knowledge of Trace Atkins which is CRA which is really really fun because a lot of Celebrity Apprentice like references in in his clue in the final Billo B like they were really pushing that I knew Mark Anthony you know like I'm telling you I I knew like a lot of people who probably to like somebody older would be like who how do you know that but I I I did not know Michael Bolton you you have to go watch 1999's office space Maggie it'll tell you everything you need know about Maggie when when he when he popped up the picture I was like never seen that in my life he look so much like him though that's why that's why we were able to figure it out so early Rob because as soon as as soon as the the lightning bolt came up or and and they the editing clearly showed that he was concerned about that and we talked about Michael Bolton and we realized he looks exactly like him um it's wild to me that he's not his dad that he's his uncle because they do really look similar when when you see them side by side like the photos at the end yeah um disappointing we did not get a Michael Bolton like Zoom call yeah we got a Michael Bolton like Notes app yeah um they said that he recently had a tumor removed and so he was probably still doing recovery or something like that but yeah I was very sad because I thought like now we get the big reveal you know this is the winner so you want the winner to have that moment uh and also that's my favorite thing that they've done about claim to fame this season um I have well I love the finale in comparison to what the finales have been I love this like a lot more uh I still think you I still think it could be better but I do love the finale but I also love the videos and the appearances from their loved ones because I mean this is time to fame it's a good strategic show but we're here because we know these celebrities and so it's fun to see them and see how much they care about their their loved ones yeah did you notice they put up a uh commercial for seeking more contestants for claim to fame make it happen do celebrities like celebrities relativ sit at home and watch claim to fame like do you m do you think it's like if you're a celebrities relative are you like waiting on your turn I'm up next this this something you aspire to do if I was a celebrity I would be texting my cousins being like get your ass on the show don't that money good PR if you like if you're a celebrity maybe you're not watching but if you are just a relative of a celebrity I I'm sure that a lot of these people I know that sometimes they they were like sought at out through casting or whatever but I have to believe that at least some now that we were we've done three seasons that there are some people sitting at home watching claim to fame it's it's hosted by you know T the Jonas Brothers Kevin and Franklin um so it's not like it's you know a random show with you know no one they've heard of or anything um I have to think that there are some people that are watching the show and they're like this is for me and I hope they are because I need more it's also like not trashy you know like it's not like they're they're not like making out and like getting wasted like it's very like might getting wasted yeah but not like obviously on the show you know not part of the show yeah it's not like they're doing love island with famous people's relatives like it's they they a lot of these people are adults with families that come on the show so think that there is a level to it that it's not s well there have some there have been some people I definitely who have embarrassed their celebrity relatives on this show but I'm thinking of one person in particular want that exactly we still want that but I think it's one of those things where you know if if you were a celebrity relative you would be like I'm gonna do this show is that okay with you people will be like yeah go win your money you know like that's exciting yeah okay we saw it looked like over these two hours that HUD and McKenzie were getting closer Jenny at any point were you thinking that we could get our claim to fameous showmance going well here's the thing uh I I'm waiting for the update on on whether it became a thing because uh our beloved Hugo and Olivia who we recently spoke to rob that we didn't see any of their show begin on the show it was all after they were eliminated where where things really got sparked so you know I I was waiting for this actually because one of the things I remembered from one of maybe the premiere was there was like a montage of people talking about HUD and how he was attractive and I remember specifically McKenzie commenting on how she thought he was cute and I was like why show that um because but they also showed Jill talking about it but Jill was gone like the second episode and McKenzie was the one person left and we saw them working together and I was like this I I felt like that needed to get fleshed out somehow in the narrative because otherwise like what a weird thing to include in in the beginning um I just didn't know how it would turn out but we got a little like Montage of them flirting we saw like Danny and Shane apparently being like they're in love um can I say something though yes like that the editors or the producers only asked McKenzie about it oh I my notes too they didn't even ask her I was like no exactly why are you making her seem thirsty or something like he was just as flirty with her if not more I felt like she was like reciprocating his Vibes you know it was very to me carry me down the hall like definitely felt mutually flirty yeah I don't know whybe maybe he had somebody at home and he didn't say anything in the diary room he said I got to go break this off does he have a dog with somebody oh it's a thing now he said his name is HUD money melon cap okay this man is out in the streets this man is for everybody right now he said I'm not ready to settle down that's what that's what they did they say they spared him an embarrassing moment where he's like a good damn I'm not trying to have nothing serious right now s he did ask for his phone at at one point and I think that they maybe were were trying to say oh uh he needs look something up but it might be I got to text someone and be like this is a I come back hanging out with somebody else sorry I thought they looked good together though I thought I was really very cute yeah I ship I ship it I really hope we get an Instagram update and they're like surprise yeah because I mean they're both sort of like in the music industry in terms of like uh this is would be fun yeah okay we'll see I think it be I think it would be lovely um but yeah I know you're you're so right May because they really didn't go to HUD at all all with it um and I just feel like the vibe felt very mutual it wasn't like you know when we hear Danny talking like they're in love he's not saying oh McKenzie is obssessed with hual so I need let's go back to hour one of this two hours of claim to fame uh because we saw Shane go out and for so much do Shane look like uh somebody who could potentially have gone the distance people were not able to piece together uh who he was related to and then Jenny tonight it all falls apart for Shane yeah this is why I had such a hard time when we were doing our our tempted power rankings in our last uh podcast because it can it can happen that quick uh you know you you get the clue and you get in a situation at the final four where no one anyone can be the guesser people are free freaking out they got to get you before you get me I mean I think that most people would have liked Adam to go at four uh but the reality is is that no one had anything concrete on on Adam and they did they they they were able to put it together um now if Shane had won the the challenge and was able to protect his own clue maybe a very different situation uh I think that was his one thing that he needed to happen um but we did we ever see how he did in the challenge we just know he got second place yeah we he did not do as well as M somewhere between four and seven um or I guess five and six so he got five or six um yeah it's it's tough to see because I think you know I think he had information but did he even know McKenzie no I don't think he ever got it right Adam I think Adam got it I don't think that I don't think he was gonna guess Brett Michaels yeah for that well for for Adam yeah he was definitely he was definitely going to for Adam yeah no so I don't think he ever got uh to uh Trace Atkins only one person said MacKenzie's relative's name and that was Adam he was the only one who could have got her and they were hoping that he would say a wrong name uh Adam did say clay aen as well and he was close like first first off like very confused he's like well 6' six uh there's not that many people he got clay aen yeah famously 6'6 clay aen even he's like uh he's I would call him country I don't know what you would call him clay like doesn't even like make albums anymore he was the first like the second runner up of the second season of he also runner up of Celebrity Apprentice oh okay maybe iny that would have if we had heard Adam say okay well I the Celebrity Apprentice uh clue I know Clay aen was also on Celebrity Apprentice like but no one really talked about that piece it was like thrown at us a million times but no one was ever talking about that part of the clue but yeah can I say something about just like claim to fame in general and something that I find so interesting and apologies if you've like really discussed this before but I think that it's so fascinating how people's brains work as humans especially about like who people are related to based on on the way that they look specifically when it comes to race because I think that if without that wine bottle clue no one was ever gonna say Marlon Brando for Shane ever like I and same with Miguel with Jam Lee Curtis like people even and even like I think LC because she didn't really like like she didn't look that much like Kiki people were much more thrown off by that you know I I I think that there is something really interesting there about people getting sort of one trck minded thinking like oh if it's somebody who's like even a parent or a sibling they it can't be this type of person because of the their race I think I think that that's great if you can yeah sorry which is why if you know that people are going to make those connections use it to your advantage which is why I loved Miguel's strategy knowing if he could lean into you know having like a really Latin sounding name and all of that like that that would steer people away so yeah we've seen we've seen that be a thing um on several seasons now and it really does get people tripped up but they also like have you know they're star like the biggest clue that they have is just seeing people the the entire time they have things on the wall so I'm sure that sometimes they're just like trying to look at people and be like are there any features but the thing is that some of these people really do look like the relatives when you see them side by side like even HUD and John melan Camp but yeah it is it is very interesting um K said clay Aken was a finalist on the Celebrity Apprentice lost to arcenio Hall okay do your thing Ario clay you get him next time yes yes okay well these black men taking clay to Hell your first Ruben in Hall clay hang it up just stop there yeah give it up Clay Clay Atkins maybe his his relative will be on season 4 and they will lose they'll get second yeah to to somebody else's relative If Only They were invisible uh we finally get the reveal that Shane uh is related to Mr mumbles of course never heard that name before I've never heard them call him Mr mumbles they made that up I Googled it I didn't seees I don't think Mr Tom Love and Tenderness is a real nickname either most of these nicknames I've like where are they what is the point of category is my father's name what do you mean you've never said hey I want to go to that Mr time love and tenderness concert Mr time love and tenderness I'm going to Google that if that's the only Mr nickname that is acceptable is if we get a relative of Pitbull and we get Mr worldwi that I will accept that is a legitimate nickname that would fun Jenny the only place I guess no it's okay uh they call this known informally as Mr time love and tenderness Michael Bolton himself on Cameo his description calls himself or Cameo says Mr time love and tenderness is here who wants to win for Mother's Day what do you mean does it count you can name yourself you think you think we named pitb Mr worldwide um you have a point you have but maybe someone else called him that first and he's like I like the sound of that anybody call him that Mr time love and tenderness is here I I am telling you that man I have never seen him before he he resembles Joey from uh like the cut it out from Full House more wow Dave koler that picture you you just con we joh St already and they wouldn't have even known each other they would have been like what John Stamos you had a relative here yeah no nothing coming up for Mr okay uh Mr mumbles I didn't see it but maybe you maybe you could find it I didn't see it um I do unfortunately for Nick Marlon Brando's nickname is just Brando you know I think you can't just be like oh his nickname Brando yeah I seen some random like articles where they refer to now a Tumbl tum post here and there yeah nothing crazy yes yes okay so uh we ultimately got his wine seller clue uh which ends up being what Hollywood I who played uh Italian Kingpin role yeah yeah it was it was so simple I mean it was like just go I said oh this is the clue y'all want to now we get this clue um he's so lucky he's so lucky that nobody pulled this clue earlier because they would have been got him out of here that's why yeah I really feel like his only his only protection uh would have been getting it himself and and and stealing it away from because that's what would have happened right so this is something that was confusing to me as I understand it in normal in normal rounds you can't pull your own wine clue the only reason that Adam W could have potentially pulled his own clue that one week was because he won with HUD is is what I believe is is that correct is that the Apparently I believe that's what I where are you getting this from I can't remember I was reading it online I don't know what there was disc about it I believe that's why people haven't done it that's the gamebreaking move of like go to the seller like take your clue put it in the blender yeah because I guess I I guess that that was yeah that was where you could have done it was because it wasn't just him taking his own clue that it was HUD as well so that he's also getting information some information it's not completely gone it's going to somebody body's getting right I have to think like when you get down to four and the only clue that's left is Shane like it it's not like well we'll give it to whoever got second place like we're not gonna do that so that was pretty much the only way but I think based again I can't remember where I read this but I believe that that is the rule and that's why people haven't done it w because it's it is it could be a great strategy if you think that you're just going to be able to figure things out the rest or your greatest power is again being underestimated and and not having anyone get any information on you as much as possible then that's a great strategy and I think more people would do it yeah Shane had the like hidden identity going for him but Shane did not know many people in fact I did he know anybody that was left in the final three even had he Advanced no I don't think so um yeah that's and I mean I mean ultimately Shan will lose because he falls he falls into last place on this challenge it's just I don't think it's his strong suit the pop culture stuff it just doesn't feel like it because that challenge the musical chairs connection challenge or whatever um sh Shane is not going to do well on that challenge it just it's like I feel like he's not as tapped in as somebody like McKenzie who was bragging about her pop culture knowledge and he's probably not as Scrappy as somebody like Adam Adam tried to tackle HUD in the challenge like literally like he pissed HUD off that was wild they said he does too much he was trying to do too much that's what Chris kristopherson said to exactly also he's not wrong mag do you know who Chris kristopherson is come on she's not gonna know that I'm a fossil I don't think he that much younger than you Chappelle I know right but like he's the guy who looks like all it takes a couple years yeah ex uh he's a singer but always get him mixed up with uh Jeff Bridges in my mind yeah yeah I like he's more of an actor than a singer uh both yeah I look at him as a country singer but that's because of like Texas um but I'm sure he's an actor as well according to google they say American singer songwriter and actor but singer songwriter was listed before actor whatever that means um not to make this all about me uh but my middle name is Christopher with a K with a K yeah wow that is a fun fact about you I always remember this yes and the reason why was I guess my mom saw something with Chris kristopherson and liked that name just thought that like the the the use of the K was a fun why not we're just we're we're just vibing no no no it's just no not the fs okay I'm like the f you have a long name Robert Christopher srino that's a lot of letters for you to have to write when you were little yep kristopherson says is that the first time you've ever told this on a podcast that that proba not I think I probably every every single story that I have I probably already have told on some podcast but not recently I always remembered that it was like spelled with a K and I was like that's that's fun I I wonder where that came from so now I know so Chris kristophers yes I want to say the movie that uh that my mom was uh I think the movie A Star is Born I think was the movie that uh was uh inspiring to her of the name Lady Gaga yes which yeah maybe I should watch some point yes okay be like less than 10 years old yes yes well look uh look that uh time flies Okay and then also just so continue making it all about me have I Jenny have I told the story about how I went to Michael Bolton's dad's house I if you've told it it was not to me you know this podast uh this isn't your Survivor trip is it yes yes yeah I remember yeah I what Michael Bolton's dad has a uh house in Panama and I guess must somehow know Mark Bernett or somebody involved with the Survivor um and in 2003 the shapera tribe uh all six of us lived at Michael Bolton's dad's house in Panama and apparently he was very into like scuba diving or snorkeling and so Michael Bolton uh bought his dad a house in Panama and that's where we stayed for uh six or seven days while we waited for Survivor Allstars to start yeah we need to talk to Adam now so that you you can tell him this that's wild yeah does uh like grandpa's house yeah I don't know if it's his grandpa because it's it is mother brother yeah not depend on which sibling uh right no no if it's his mother yeah Mom also I'm pretty sure that Terry Deets had sex with his wife in a bed at that house I remember you oh my god turn on the Bolton let's get the good you know time love and [Music] whatever see he get a conjugal visit call the ambulance and change the sheets in pan P Panama okay all right so Shane good sport came close took it well what was the plan that Shane wanted to have happen he wanted Adam to take out McKenzie which makes me wonder did that's why did he also have some of the same tips tips as um because I know that Adam kind of got to where he got because Shane shared the clue um to help like reinforce it but did Adam say I know who it is because blank blank blank this is who it is or did Adam keep his cards close to because like I would love to know that because he W he wanted Adam to guess McKenzie and again if he thinks that he's right that's better than him guessing because if he's wrong like that's not great and then Adam's out too the problem is though Jenny he's been wrong all season so like why would Shane take him seriously you know if he's also it's kind of like it's kind of like a winwin too because if he doesn't know Adam worst case scenario you know again someone's wrong about McKenzie and they go home and that's someone he didn't know anyway so I think for him that was probably he definitely didn't want McKenzie guessing yeah because he knew that Mckenzie was going to have his clue mhm so it definitely made sense for him now I think HUD got a little a little selfish a little he got a little wild on that he the layup yeah yeah we're at the final four sir like he he wanted the layup for a person that he didn't even know the name of like he's like no no anybody but Adam that's my layup what are you doing McKenzie no he wanted hean Shane was his lay he felt like still wrong no he had Marlon brand though he he was like yeah yeah he was like doing like Godfather I see I thought he was trying to stop McKenzie from doing the layup when they thought it was when they thought they had Adam and Mackenzie goes up there and she guesses wrong well she was GNA guess wrong I thought that's what want he no he didn't want her to guess um Shane Maron because we figured out it's Marlon Brando now let's keep that got yeah but it's just like just just guess else this is the time to use the layup you know what I'm saying like if you don't if that's he's saying save it but if I'm Mackenzie and I gotta guess oh it's layup time because I just got you just got to get two more rounds like he wasn't guessing like I don't think he would have cared if McKenzie would just gone home yeah yeah it's easy for you to say and don't waste it just go out just guess wrong yeah get it wrong leave him for me like HUD has to realize that he's he's trying to tell her to do things that are very very obviously only beneficial to to him because the other part is not just her knowing that it's like who Shane is and that's a layup for her as well that Shane is the one with her clue and that even if he doesn't have it figured out yet what if he's in a be guessing position uh you know tomorrow like what if she had gone along with HUD made Adam the guesser and let's just say Adam I don't know let's say Adam was wrong and he says clay Aken and he goes home um and then Shane wins the final three Challenge and he like you don't even have a chance to do the layup so I I just think is I I've Loved HUD so much but I think that he got a little sloppy in the end game might might have been the drinks he was having maybe okay maybe too many of the Chappelle melon shots okay all right uh let's then go to all right we get to our final hour of claim to fame with that again HUD in McKenzie I I'm like is HUD drunk here uh when he slips up and reveals the HUD melon shot I think that they just in the house like hang out and they're not thinking you know like these people aren't people say even in Big Brother like so hard to have like a facade and that's what you're doing in there to not be able to share who you actually are and if he like if they were really vibing and flirting you know I'm sure he's not thinking anything of that it was like how dedric slipped and said Mr Jackson you know it's just it's like a true just slip of the tongue you don't even realize Magie I gasp though like I was like could claim to fame stand to benefit from an AI instigator I think everybody could stand to benefit from an AI wouldn't it be great if like the Hologram was also like like hey I find the AI instigator and the AI Arena to be quite successful so I'm all for it pro AI in reality television uh competition maybe that's it but it's really changed some minds I think uh the AI instigator I'm saying they could have done AI uh like Holograms of the relatives yeah I mean they could or Marlon Brando Michael Jackson yeah like they did it for Tupac Chappelle yeah uh when they start having the Hologram Michael Jackson concerts I will be there so uh make no mistake uh line themine line me up go ahead and purchase my ticket I don't care if I have to uh sell something to get it I I will pedrick I'm I'm so impressed with you you made me so proud that I would have cried if Michael Jackson started talking on that screen I went to a Janet Jackson concert not too long ago and he pops up on the SC for a split second while she's doing scream and I screamed like I it was like he was there so trust some people just can't handle this I would have freaked out standing next to dedric once I realized he was Michael Jackson relative I I would have been not no no good and honestly when you see all of them in the finale standing next to each other and just seeing how much star power they all are like related to it's a little intimidating when Shane comes out and they're like Marlin brand said you're standing next to Marlon Brando's grandson that's so cool but he's standing next to Michael Jackson's uh nephew so you know it is what it is yeah it's it's crazy yeah okay Chelle what do you think's in a HUD melon shot uh well melin probably it didn't sound like the best shot I was like I guess if you're if you're claim to fame is is John Cougar melon Camp you you kind of have to lean into the melon of it all all his Clues were just like melon melon melon melon I melon and whiskey maybe like a melon lir and like a whiskey or something you know sounds terrible the the food item I always associate John Malik camp with is sucking on chili dogs outside the that's right wait wasn't that one of the clues that was I think that was something they to eat right it was like a cube of chili dog yeah yeah yeah okay all right so uh day 39 breakfast being made by Adam and what kind of maniac is this where uh that he like so many hyinks with the blender this season first of all who uses the blender without the top on it Adam and then also it's like taking like a wooden spoon and like jamming it into like a running blender I think his wife makes breakfast usually you think so that that pancake was a little charred but yes little it wasn't yeah it wasn't it was charred there were splinters in it out I don't care I was looking at it I say oh it's a little crispy it burnt a little burnt but I can I Salvage that P so who makes pancakes in the blender that's his problem mix it yeah problem that's why I think that like yes if you really want to mix up the pancake batter so there's no like little flour chunks or whatever in it sure use the blender don't know why the wooden spoon needed to be involved don't know why there was no lid um I truly think the only times that he has ever interacted with the blender were the two times we saw on this season of television when he ate the clue out of the blender and then tried to make pancakes blender got so much action yeah so much okay uh we got to see everybody come back Jenny who were you most excited to see Danny even though he was only Dan Danny is my favorite but he no screen time whatsoever know I know um it was nice to see everyone that is my again my one gripe about the season is I felt like it was a Sprint at the beginning and then you know there were people that I we didn't I just felt like we could have slowed it down a little bit um who was John stamos's uh niece Jill Jill she also didn't even get to talk on the reunion no I was very happy to to see my girl Naomi back I was like yeah robbed goddess Queen she deserves I smug as ever wrong as ever and wrong loud and wrong Queen I upending okay well then be wrong like girl I was so mad I was so mad because it's like it's I I it's one thing to be wrong and just be so conf confident about it but it was the fact that she had the audacity to be like God you guys don't know anything like just so aggressively rude to these other people McKenzie's like but but who sings Jack and Diane she's like I don't care it doesn't matter doesn't matter itard what does that have to do with anything she's like I'm smart I know Cherry Bomb hello yeah is she a cougar like I don't know doesn't matter all the rest of these Clues don't matter because I figured it out 18 weeks ago with one one word duh I never heard of the person she's talking about also by the way same same I I there's the name rways but I wouldn't have known who she's like that's why that's why it's wild to me she had like such a specific reference but then like she was not one of the people putting anything together about John Cougar melan camp and was like I don't know that's why I feel like she just got so fixated on what she had decided was the truth and wasn't even listening to anyone no like I don't think she heard McKenzie say Jack and Diane she didn't care bring her back bring her back again let her do it again it was wonderful television but I was infuriated I was so frustrated I was like why are you being so rude to these women Jenny I also was frustrated but then I was like but Naomi you're going to look so dumb like yeah knowing knowing the truth like it was like kind of like Get ready to eat the Humble Pie we'll be ready to serve it so we also then saw some folks come back who had an axe to grind with Adam uh specifically Miguel dedri they were they were like going to make sure Adam lost okay Miguel Adam didn't mean to make you lose Adam was just not right say it like I'm sorry yeah I'm sorry that you both couldn't rub your two brain cells together and come up with something other than Little Richard but I don't think that's Adam's fault Miguel you didn't have a better guess he wasn't trying to to to lead him astray it wasn't it wasn't like ill-intentioned it was that Adam and and honestly I loved Miguel and I was very excited to see him again but the more he talked about his reasons for being mad at Adam I was like I don't think you have a case here sir you guys talked [ __ ] about Adam and how he knew nothing then why did you believe what he said and run with it was there not Michael Jackson Clues at that time when he chose to go with Little Richard they'd been talking about the whiz yeah talking about the whiz and all that stuff yeah um yeah I mean uh you know the the Jacksons they they their household name where I come from and so I recognized this man immediately I said oh he's one of them cuz they all look the same and I knew his name wasn't dric because none of them have black names and so I was like listen that that ain't him sorry that's that's definitely that's the one you need to go for so when he said Little Richard I was like what are you trying to do here what are you trying to do here it's it gave me the same Vibe as Naomi like you're so wrong you're so wrong and you just the obvious like there are layups on the board but you have fixated on this one thing and you know Lil Richard is very very famous I don't know what they about with Shar uh Sheree Curry she would be the least famous person we've ever had on this show to date if she was the one who was on there I me there are other members of that same band that are way more famous but to sit here and go Little Richard over Michael Jackson it's just like you wanted to lose you did you wanted you wanted to you wanted to risk it you were trying to be fancy don't blame Adam for that I think they were mad at Adam because he's just not the best to live with I we saw pretty much everybody get into at least some type of altercation with Adam even if it was just a little spat it happened fast and then he moved on to the next person mhm yeah and I think yeah I think that that's a lot of it is that you know he I I think that Adam just is just different and it did not it was not working for him his way of communicating with people at times was not good um and I think that anytime that he perceived that people were against him or didn't understand him you would get really frustrated and the way that he would Express his frustration um wasn't always always great and didn't go over well uh but I think also the anger towards him was also just like you hate when someone you think doesn't deserve to be there beats you you know what I mean like you see this in Survivor and Big Brother all the time how like someone isn't even responsible for you not being in the game anymore but it just like frustrates them so much that someone that they don't think played as well as them got further than them and I felt like that was a lot of the energy that people were showing towards Adam or being like what what are you even doing here like you you only got As far because we helped you which is why I was very happy with the way that he won because he did do some work for himself at the end if he had just like if he had just stumbled completely ass backwards into into the wind completely with none of his own Merit I think that'd be a different story that's why I'm like really happy with how it turned out because he's like okay yeah I was wrong at times but so were you guys and then I I was right when it mattered the most yeah we got to see uh some of these people really try to stick it to Adam in this final three uh competition Adam was doing so well uh but then we saw people trying to purposely sabotage him uh specifically uh dedri uh was giving him bad Intel in the uh stick your hand in the Box yeah uh we saw then find and really like they didn't really say this in the episode Jenny but um wasn't it kind of Miguel's fault that Adam got seriously injured um was it his fault I's nodding no no no no I think Adam made his bed and now he has the lie in it this whole season you know we're being very complimentary to him but this whole season he has been combative and also lazy he has been just like hope he will get mad at you for not just giving you his clue like legit be like not La when he goes to the slip and slide though right and so because of that they didn't want to work with him thus Miguel tanked his game thus he had to go and pull a Bruce and it's okay that that happened but I'm not blaming Miguel yeah but I'm not blaming Miguel because people were tripping over themselves to help Mackenzie they hopped in the canoe with her and was like come on girl we got this which which McKenzie I'm sorry yeah because well Gracie Lynn jumps in right uh and so no I just mean all all m on reality TV yeah people just want them to do well I guess not on Big Brother not on Big Brother maybe that's an MJ that's not really I was alluding to in the finale of Survivor 46 yes what is year for McKenzie on reality TV think but yeah yeah I mean but they're just help I mean they're helping her to the point where I think Gracie Lyn hops in the boat with her and helps her helps her roll you know I think she walks up and uh and and um oh Naomi just completely just gives her the answer off the off the top like this one you know like that there were moments and and the same thing for a few of the other ones but for Adam nobody was willing to help him and that's not that they're all hating on Adam it's because Adam they don't want you to win and that's a fla a social game and I like that the social game comes into play uh for claim the fame I like that they're adding this because this makes it more interesting to me yeah which is why it's so egregious that HUD and McKenzie squandered the opportunity of no one wanting to help Adam and everyone wanting to help them um but no we cannot blame Miguel or anyone for Adam's injury he goes too hard on the slip and slide yeah Jenny just to go back to what you just said though that do you feel like that they both felt like okay Adam is a dummy we'll just make him guess first and then to win the game I need to crack the other Kenzie needed to beat H beat Mackenzie but but the they knew I'm pretty sure at the beginning of this challenge that the winner of the challenge gets to choose who is the guesser and who's so if you put the Power in Adam's hand you don't get to choose what if he is a dummy um then well he's not gonna get right thought he wasn't gonna get through the challenge I think that's what it was they they knew that the jury is tanking him and so they're like all right we ain't got to worry about him I gotta stop the other person who actually has a shot at beating me the person who I think knows these answers or can you know and actually gonna make sense of this mag is right they they just disregard him you know and so but the winner is the person who whose thing stays the most covered up and that that person will be Adam if they don't put if they don't put some of the keys in his and that's why I still cannot comprehend why they did that because they they let him even knowing that no one was going to help him if they spend all of their time going after each other who's putting keys in Adam's thing he's not doing it himself that's how it's it's not a race to who wins it's a race to who has like whose Keys who has less keys or whatever 1,000% Jenny they should have after doing three keys in each other's boxes someone should see something after a while yes they should have gone to each other and said stop let's just go to Adam and then we can go back to each other like let's get him out first one best man wins coconut chop you know they were chopping each others and then the person who wasn't getting chopped at all because he wasn't they thought he wasn't getting answers right so it's like whatever we'll chop each other we don't have to worry about him and then they took themselves out of the game they slept on Adam and ultimately uh they played themselves they did yeah and I mean they what have that the thing is like Adam's Adam's picture was not completely you know he he' only had a few filters removed or whatever um but they could see enough that the person in the photo was not wearing a bandan which was enough for McKenzie to realize we were saying Brett Michaels it's probably not Brett Michaels ironic so like I don't know yeah uh Adam would be wearing uh an Ace bandage bandana by the end of this uh Jenny did you think that he was gonna get pulled I I at this point I was all in on on Adams at the end of at the end of the first hour I was I got a little worried because I was like this is gonna make me super sad um but I just I felt edit wise I couldn't you're so good at this you're too good now I just think that they wouldn't do I just I think that they wouldn't have edited certain things that way if that was ultimately going to be the end of his game I I was thinking like oh oh like he's GNA get he's going to get pulled I'm like the story is like was he about to do it was he about was about doish line yeah yeah I was like what a shame what a shame because they're like We Can't Stop he's like gushing blood we can't stop the B Chappelle they tried to glue his head they tried over and over again they said damn this clue is just not working man I think you might need stitches he's like what like yeah I'm sorry they wrap him up and he looks like one of those Like Bugs Bunny cartoons where he's got yeah like a tooth and like tie him up yes I was about say he looks like he's just got wisdom tooth surgery oh my go that I would love to see like the post wisdom tooth Adam video but yeah the thing is is that like they could have pulled him from The Challenge and been like okay like you're not out of the running to compete in claimed to fame anymore but you cannot finish this challenge we have to go without you he still would have won McKenzie and had had would still never gonna get him they would be like well well just but it they would have been able to control who is guessing when yeah yeah yeah I also and they would have oh go ahead Maggie no no no this is now sort of moving on so continue oh well I was just gonna say I was really surprised that Adam didn't have McKenzie and HUD guess each other first before like he knew both of them why didn't he just have like one of them guess you know what I mean but because uh the person who would have been right controls the board and could have guessed him oh okay what I'm wondering is is is the claim to fame final challenge too overpowered Jenny have we seen the person who wins this challenge win the game in all three seasons yes I just think it's so powerful that not like first off the other people all come back like I I I don't think it's so much the challenge I think it's the fact that the other people come back and then just tell you whatever it is so then at that point unless you've stumped every single person in the whole cast uh and and we saw Adam almost did um when you get to decide what happens in both those two rounds and people come back and tell all the answers it's just so hard like it would be almost impossible to lose the game after you win the final challenge so far it has been like Jenny said the winner of the final challenge always wins and we've been saying that the uh last challenge is op every round every year that we do this and it's changed every year it's never the same uh the first time they literally just went around and asked each other so who do you think like they did the they did the the oh the would you rather answer the question or do something embarrassing I think was one of the things the yeah eat something or whatever they get through that and then they go and ask all the jury okay who's the who should I be voted for here and I think the same thing happened here you know the only the only difference this time is that Adam W and the jury was not willing to help him so he really had to stand on his own Merit by the time he got to the end but winning that challenge definitely helped I honestly okay and that's and that's why maybe it is too op because the fact that he didn't even have anyone helping him and him just by virtue of winning um was in such a powerful position but I I was trying to think of like okay so say that McKenzie say that McKenzie isn't short-sighted and and doesn't go hard for HUD and is goes after Adam gets Adam out she wins The Challenge let's say and she does she what does she do in the first round like does she figure out how I think that she knocks out she knocked out HUD but the thing is knock would she have ever been able to guess Adam without Adam like knowing he was going to win and and and Outing himself I mean based on the conversations that took place and how that you know the only reason they ever got the name Michael Bolton uttered was because Bianca overheard Adam saying stuff to to Shane and Dedrick so I I think that he might have had it locked up no matter what um and that's okay I also think at that point like if you're McKenzie you knock out HUD and you're left with okay I can either guess Adam and I'm not confident or I can make him guess me like what do you pick then do you just are you like maybe he doesn't know I'm try a daughter I think what she would probably have to do Bas on what we knew about what she knew at that point in the game I that's what I think that she would need to do because he talks about trying to figure out and he was like talking about like the military Clues and stuff like that and and you know he definitely spooked her but she didn't have concrete evidence that he knew for sure so if she didn't have a strong name that she felt good about that's probably the better play he's such an enigma Adam because on the one hand it's like and maybe he's doing this for television on one hand he knows so much about Trace Atkins and at other times he seems to know literally nothing about Trace Atkins including not even his first name he he can't he doesn't have good name recall yeah I think it's the name thing he's like he's like somebody Atkins I can't I just can't put my finger but he does a lot with the veterans and he the like you you ain't never had that moment where it's on the tip of your tongue you're like um got come on man it's right there I just uh clay aing you know like I think that's all that was um and it would have helped like to Jenny's Point had they like just dogpiled on Adam then maybe he doesn't even see McKenzie's confirmation clue you know he's sitting there thinking it might Trace Atkins but it could be somebody else um and then when he sees her face pops up and then all like the Trace Atkins lyrics and all these other things pop up it's like I don't he even says I I don't think the guy they're trying to get me to guess wears a black hat but I know Trace ains wears a black hat if you don't let him see that picture maybe he doesn't guess that that they really fumbled by not winning that last challenge now we have to think about the fact that we did not get to see Adam's billboard fully and if he did not win and he got taken out as they should have done would have seen it I have to believe there would have been something very revealing on that billboard it might have even said When a Man Loves a Woman and we might and that that might have been the nail in the coffin for him um so again so true like that I those Billboards were so revealing and I I think that the fact that there was only like three layers reduced from him like I could I knowing Michael Bolton is his Rel I could see what was kind of going on there but you couldn't make out any words on it they could make out enough that there was an aob bandana if they had words if it said anything that could lead you to Michael Bolton and keep in mind all the other people are there seeing it too um and that's again where they lost it they did not get information on Adam such a good yeah I like it though I do I like when you get to the finale like for Adam he had the most so from my point of view yeah he deserves a win because he knows everybody and I look at this game as who who can I figure out right how do I get the most information correct um and a lot of them are playing defense heavy and that's why their social games are kind of up in the air this time because they're using their layups to go after other people you should guess this real quick so I can see what happens you should guess this wrong name you should guess this wrong name they've been doing that to Adam all season so for him to be the one person who had guaranteed information going in and had the the wherewith all to win that challenge yeah give it to him because everybody else is now going to the jury going please help me please help me dear God please help me and he didn't even have to he's so he was so confident that he was bragging about it so I feel like if you get to the final three with the most information um and you win that challenge I mean what can we really say you know he's he told them his person because he knew they couldn't do nothing with it yeah it's yeah it's Michael Bolton dummy duh you don't know you don't know his songs you don't know my daddy you know that's I mean my uncle that's how it came off like he was already flexing yeah and he knew like he knew before that point there were lots of confessionals saying I'm the biggest threat right now like I think the Billboards and him winning the challenge was the confirmation he needed but he it seemed I I guess obviously we don't know exactly when certain confessionals were fil filmed but I feel like he was pretty I think he knew HUD at the end of like the Dany boot episode and I I think that he was pretty sure about McKenzie being Trace Atkins daughter like before he saw the billboard and the billboard just kind of like reinforced it even like like they gave him too much power without knowing how much power they were giving him because they did not know how much he knew and they just gave him the ability to set it up all the way he wanted I'll never forgive him for this I'm just joking are we interested to take one last look at the clue wall sure yeah see if there's is there we never figured out is there anything here that we never figured out on the clue wall dang I this wall stresses me out I could never play this game and just start making up stuff what are the Michael Bolton Clues besides that was the one thing that we said all think I think that he was he was on the mask singer I think that that's that mask was uh Michael Bolton I think he's the lightning bolts the heart things about love maybe there's some things that are so it's so generic generic yeah is that the Cherry that's the Cherry Bomb for camp or yeah wait so now now what what was the pencil obious pencil hair right we uh this pencil what was that what's the party hat where's the oh I don't know see I could do this so pencil oh yeah 16 Candles the birthday stuff is such a stretch like also some of it means nothing yeah like popcorn bucket with tickets coming out of it what is that is an okay there must be an actor here an actor somebody that's why so you have to throw enough generic stuff in there like the grape jelly did we ever figure that out no well who are the relatives let me let me think the grape jelly I just don't know what the other bolt includes are cuz I just feel like we found like they just they they only would show us the lightning bowlt that was like the one thing that would go to to' be like what's this Footprints with a magnifying glass um no Christopher Walkin Christopher Walkin yes Christopher Walkin they need to have Clues to other $10,000 cash oh is that's like Godfather yeah is that a reference I don't know it's stretch uh Sal the horses seem to be uh Michael Bolton reference I no I think it's Trace Atkins for having the ponytail oh the ponytail but he but then Michael Bolton also had long hair but he actually put in a ponytail he had to is that free will wore a ponytail I'm gonna find it but yes you're right I think that was a clue for the the editing the horse that like Montage of Adam um with the music from the first half of the with like the horses and there was like just they went real silly in this finale it was very fun yeah can you can you back that out just a little bit more yeah let yeah DEH hands unhan UNH hands UNH hands UNH hands UNH hands UNH hands yeah I try Michel Bolton this clue wall is like 50% is is Just Junk Shenanigans that's what I'm saying you have to have some some like a shack test also like to be fair though like a lot of the people were like teen stars of the 80s you know like Molly ringwall John CER Michael B like they're not like like all the school stuff can be for that you know oh yeah like The Breakfast Club or something like that yeah I guess yeah I gu there there was a scene with pencils in was pencil Breakfast Club but I think it was like Ali Shey that was throwing the pencils up but whatever and it got stuck up there did I do this thing yeah oh yeah oh no I could have never done this I'm still stuck on the grape jelly so we can just let it go that was because they wanted to lead people down the jelly roll uh Lane for for D Mark Anthony do anything with jelly does he have a song about jelly I don't know all right claim the fame season 3 Jenny any final thoughts you know I it it felt like it was over in a blink um I I love it though I I I will say I will say like there were points in this season where I wasn't disapp I don't know if disappointed was the right word but it was it was very different than the other seasons in that we were getting no correct guesses everything you know people weren't right about anything um and I wish that we got to know some more of the characters like I would have like to like a bigger cast and for it to go a little bit longer that's mostly my feeling I want more claim to fame give me more it felt like it was a little too uh quick but I feel like the editing this season they kicked it up a notch I felt like so many episodes were like a movie like it was just the storytelling was so fun in some of these episodes it really is like so underrated in terms of a strategic competition reality show um and I really hope that people realize what they're missing out on if they're not watching this already I know that I'm not speaking to those people because they're not listening to this podcast but yeah any claim is good claim to just add to what you're saying like the reveals on just about all these episodes there was some big like uh you know left turn right at the end that you didn't see coming that sort of like yeah and whether it's that it was a little bit like manipulated to make you have that reaction like you felt something every week yeah and they found people that made good television um like I'm sorry Adam Adam having the arc he had and being the winner of our season like that that is great the fact and I talk about this so much about like when you have such a specific pool of like what you're trying to cast you need someone that has to be related to a celebrity but you also want them to make good TV they're they're still doing a great job with that and that's why I'm hoping that the The Pool isn't getting too shallow and that they can continue to find these people because it it really is a great show and I'm I'm sad it's over I just milon celebrity relatives out there there are and I there's I they have to be they have to be entertain so I hope they're found I hope we have a season four two seasons year you cowards yeah come on only eight episodes 25 Seasons later we're still doing this Rob rank your winners um to me um I I love Gabriel you got to Gabriel is my guy so uh like in terms of like playing the game I'm not sure Elie might have been better at at at playing the game but as far as like uh I I love Gabriel he's such a likable guy but Adam was so fun as like a villain who won the show so in terms of like for TV uh I feel like that I I still I love Gabriel and then Adam and then I think that Elsie was uh who seems like a wonderful person uh was not exactly the most uh riveting TV character but in terms of like playing the game maybe LC was the best uh I think would flip it yeah listen yeah I love LC I love LC it's really hard for me to choose between LC and Gabriel and then Adam gave us a different style of a win like you said it's kind of it was kind of villainous and it wasn't it wasn't as polished I think LC is kind of like she's like the Richard Hatch you know she came in with the strategy that works everybody figuring it out she had it down I feel like that ELC and Logan was kind of like a Steph and JT situation of like I think it's hard to sort of like parse who is doing what and again it was two years ago I really don't remember it's okay they were amazing just know that much they could do wrong my great team both and JT get Logan on the Traders that's put the amount of people from this show that should be on the Traders so many of them more than people that have been on the Traders mon the trader Gabriel Chris from this from this season you get Naomi like I I think get imagine Adam on the Traer be so funny so angry yeah like they they came to play they really did and there's a lot of the game like dandi dondi was a a show that we didn't think would have Gamers but I mean people showed up to play and I think claim to fame is leading the pack of like shows that sound a little goofy but when you let people cook and you cast good people you have a good product at the end of the day so I'm just trying to think of like all of these like corporate entities and like what show like what their paths are in terms of like the ABC Disney thing I feel like that the closest that we could get is sending these people to Bachelor in Paradise is there anything else like in the ABC ecosyst Dancing with the Stars yeah Dancing with the Stars give me that like everybody can't do it but I think if you win because there have been less famous people on with the Stars I think if you can if you win it or like if you're Logan in LC you definitely can get a spot on De with the Stars right Gabriel can get one I think you have to be a fan favorite though like I don't think that you could be Adam and then go to Dancing with the Stars I think you could be Adam go Dancing with the Stars I really do I think he's a TV personality I think you yout he will hurt himself that's every time he tries to do something physical yeah doesn't go well yeah I'm veryit pahor Steve is going to be on Dancing With the Stars and I think that's very Charming I did not know that that's very fun yeah who is pommel horse Steve Rob please did you watch the Olympics oh the the the Spider-Man guy yeah well he he literally his only job on the men's gymnastics team was to do the pal horse do the it was business time put his sister on claim to fame next season who would guess it like why are there so many horses on the clue Hall I just don't understand we've had Olympian yeah it's someone related to Simone biles again okay all right any other thoughts for claim the fame season 3 all right Maggie what's coming up for you um yeah I've been talking about Big Brother this season I was on the update on Saturday I'll a great job thank you so much I appreciate that it's always great to be chatting about the amazing season of Big Brother that's happening right now like we're eating good we're eating yeah we really are eating good no splinters here no splinters here you can find me uh on Tik Tok threads and Instagram all at MML Morgan uncore okay great job uh so fun to have you back here with us to talk claim to fame Maggie uh yeah Chappelle you and I talked slop Monday night this week yes we talked about Big Brother uh like Maggie said it's a great season and we had a lot of sloppy things to share behind the patron pay wall so if you are Fame slop you think we could do that I think we could do that I think we especially we go through like the celebrities uh like sloppy things like yeah think we've had to stop ourselves we might even be able to get um the celebrities relatives on and they can tell us some of the uh the cool stories that their relatives uh you know they could tell us about the cool stories about their relatives I would love to hear that some of the scandalous stories at least but yeah check me out on the slop talking about big brother and then check me out uh here on rjp talking about Netflix shows with you on nothing but Netflix uh talking about below deck with Sasha and then on recap Kickback talking about whatever the hell I want to talk about and so uh I think puya and I are about halfway through covering the season of belir that's a fun time so check it out and uh subscribe to our YouTube page youtube.com recap Kickback okay great job Chappelle great to have you here for the season finale of claim the fame and Jenny we've done it again three seasons wow I me I can't even believe uh how lucky we've got how lucky I got uh you know stumbling into this beautiful little show that makes me so happy um I just want to say like thank you Maggie thank you Chappelle for joining us on the finale I love you both I've had such a great time talking to everyone I love getting to talk to my friends that are excited about this show I'm so sorry for how uh rambly and insane I have been on these podcasts but it is truly a testament to how much I actually really love the show and how excited I get about it and I will never grow tired of talking about it so thank you for giving me the opportunity to do that it's been a really good time and I hope that we get a season four so that we can do this again and hopefully more than eight episodes in seven weeks so we can do more of this because um it's really just such a breath of fresh air to be podcasting about a show that is really just Good Vibes um so thank you to to the three of you and for everyone else who has joined us over this season um it really does fill my cup so yeah well Jenny maybe we're not done yet maybe we get to talk to our winner or some of our other standouts from the season so stay tuned make sure you're subscribed because if we do one of these interviews you don't want to miss it Rob ASA website.com ssubscribe and make sure you're subscribed here on our YouTube channel as well we love to read your comments and your feedback back about the show we want to know what you thought about the season and how we did so let us know in the comments thank you so much for joining us take care everybody have a good one bye