TX Dems accuse GOP of voter suppression; GA Dems sue to block new state election rules

ACCORDING TO THE WARRANT, THE PURPOSE WAS TO LOOK FOR EVIDENT OF VOTER FRAUD. JOINING ME NOW LISA RUBIN. SO THEY'RE ASKING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO LOOK INTO THIS. >> YEAH. AND BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR, PERHAPS WITH SOME GOOD REASON. BECAUSE SOME OF THE EFFORTS, WHILE DESCRIBED AS AN ATTEMPT TO ENFORCE TEXAS LAWS FOR VOTER INTEGRITY AS PART OF KEN PAXTON VOTER INTEGRITY UNIT THEY SEEMED DESIGNED MORE TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AND INCENTIVIZE CITIZENS TO VOTE. THERE IS NO INDICATION SO FAR THAT THESE VOTER REGISTRATION EFFORTS ARE TIED TO VOTING FOR ABOUT 1900 NONCITIZENS IN TEXAS, LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT NONCITIZEN VOTING IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE RAIDS. SO WHAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THE COMPLAINT, IT IS A COMPLAINT THAT THUS FAR BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW SOUNDS WELL FOUNDED AND SOMETHING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S WHEELHOUSE TO INVESTIGATION IN ITS VOTING COMPONENT OF THIS CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT. >> THAT IS WHAT KEN PAXTON PRESENTED TO GET THE SEARCH WARRANTS, THE UNDOCUMENTED VOTERS? >> IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT KEN PAXTON PRESENTED TO GET THE SEARCH WARRANTS AND WE KNOW THAT THE RAID EARLIER LAST WEEK, THAT THEY WERE EXTENSIVE, THAT AS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR OPENING, THAT MANY OF THOSE WHO WERE TARGETED ARE LONG TIME ACTIVISTS NOT ONLY IN THE LATINO COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS. ONE OF THOSE WHOSE HOME IS RUNNING FOR A STATE HOUSE SEAT AGAINST THE FORMER MAYOR OF UVALDE, SOMEONE IN THEIR 70ths OR 80s. WHILE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE SWABBING PEOPLE'S CHEEKS FOR DNA IN AN INVESTIGATION THAT IS APPARENTLY ABOUT VOTER FRAUD, DEFINITELY HAS ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD BE ABOUT. AND, ALSO, WHETHER THIS IS, STIN HE HAD OF TRYING TO ROAD OUT VOTER FRAUD, SOME SORT OF PREEMPTIVE EVENT TO SAY THE LATINO COMMUNITY, WE'RE WATCHING YOU AND TO EXTENT THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH VOTER HARVESTING EFFORTS THAT ARE UNLAWFUL IN SOME WAY, WE'RE GOING TO DISINCENTIVIZE YOU FROM DOING THAT EVEN IF THE ILLEGALITY HERE IS INCIDENTAL AND NOT INTENTIONAL. >> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT GEORGIA. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTION BOARD OUT THERE CHANGING THE RULES TO SAY THAT YOU CAN ASK FOR AN INQUIRY, THAT IS REASONABLE. THEY USE THE WORD REASONABLE INQUIRIES OR FAIR. BUT BECAUSE THAT WORD IS SO VAGUE, THE DEMOCRATS, THE PARTY DOWN THERE, IS SAYING IT IS TOO VAGUE AND IT IS GOING TO SOW CHAOS. YOU ALSO HAVE SECRETARY OF STATE RAFFENSPERGER SAYING HE TOO BELIEVES THIS IS TOO LATE IN THE GAME AND IT WILL BE CHAOTIC COME ELECTION DAY. DO THEY HAVE A CASE? >> I THINK THEY DO HAVE A CASE. FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE 159 DIFFERENT COUNTIES IN GEORGIA. SO WHEN PEOPLE LIKE SECRETARY OF STATE RAFFENSPERGER COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CHAOS THAT COULD BE SEWN HERE, THERE IS REASON TO SAY THAT. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT COUNTIES IN ELECTIONS. THE RULE THAT HAS BEEN SUED ON, THERE ARE TWO OF THEM. ONE IS THAT REASONABLE INQUIRY RULE THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF. THERE IS ANOTHER RULE THAT ALLOWS BOARD MEMBERS TO DEMAND ANY AND ALL ELECTION RELATED DOCUMENTATION PRIOR TO THE CERTIFICATION OF RESULTS. BUT THERE IS A GEORGIA STATE STATUTE THAT SAID ALL COUNTIES HAVE TO CERTIFY ELECTION RESULTS BY A TIME AND DATE CERTAIN. AND THAT IS THE CONCERN OF THE PLAINTIFFS HERE WHO ARE NOT JUST THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF GEORGIA, BUT A NUMBER OF LOCAL ELECTION BOARD MEMBERS WHO SAY RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION TO IMPLEMENT THESE RULES SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE DISCRETION THAT THEY DON'T. WE NEED TO KNOW CLEARLY AND CONCISELY WHAT THOSE RULES ARE SO THAT WE COULD CARRY OUT OUR OWN DUTIES. I THINK THEY HAVE A CASE, AND ASKING FOR THAT CLARITY FROM THE COURT, THE QUESTION IS HOW FAST CAN THEY GET A RULING FROM THE FULTON COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. SO I'M EXPECTING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY WE NEED TO GET THIS CASE MOVING AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT COME YET. PERHAPS IN THE DAYS TO COME. >> AND PART OF THE ISSUE IS IF THEY DON'T CERTIFY THE ELECTION BY THAT DATE, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? AND CAN THOSE VOTES BE SENT TO CONGRESS FOR COUNTING FOR THE OFFICIAL COUNT THAT HAPPENS IN EARLY JANUARY? IT WAS JANUARY 6th, A FEW YEARS AGO. IS IT THE SAME DATE AGAIN. LISA RUBIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> JOINING ME NOW KOGWOMAN NICK -- CONGRESSWOMAN SNEAK EMMA WILLIAMS. I SAW YOU LAST WEEK NEXT TO LIL JON. >> TOO MANY LETTERS. >> I SEEM OLD. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THESE RULES. THE DNC DOWN THERE IS SAYING THIS IS NOT FAIR. IT IS TOO VAGUE AND IT IS PROBLEMATIC. JUST EXPLAIN THE LEGAL ISSUES AT PLAY. HOW DO YOU SEE IT PLAYING OUT AT THE POLLS AND IN THE DAYS AFTER? >> SO, I'M A CHAIRWOMAN OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF GEORGIA AND SO WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THIS SITUATION IN ALL 159 COUNTIES. GEORGIA HAS A LOT OF COUNTIES, ONLY SECOND TO TEXAS. WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT EVEN COUNTY HAS ELECTION RESULTS AND BECAUSE OF RULES THAT WERE CHANGE AND LAWS THAT WERE PASSED IN THE AFTERMATH OF OUR HISTORIC VICTORIES IN 2020, WE SAW REPUBLICANS CHANGING THE LAWS. WE PLAYED BY THE RULES SO THEY CHANGED THEM. AND SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS MORE CHANGES IN THE RULES WHERE THEY WANT TO GIVE INDEPENDENT OR INDIVIDUAL COUNTY PARTIES THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT CERTIFY ELECTION RESULTS. WHERE STATE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT. THE STATE CODE SAID THAT EACH COUNTY MUST CERTIFY THE ELECTION RESULTS. BUT WE SAW THIS LEADING UP TO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. AND IN MY COUNTY RIGHT HERE IN FULTON COUNTY, WHERE ATLANTA IS, WE HAVE REPUBLICANS ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS REFUSING TO CERTIFY THE PRIMARY ELECTION RESULTS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE RANDOM DOCUMENT REQUESTS THAT SHE WAS REQUESTING. SO WE KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO SET UP THIS CASE SO THEY THAT COULD NOT CERTIFY A VERY VALID ELECTION THAT IS GOING TO BE IN NOVEMBER. SO WE ARE NOT TAKING ANYTHING FOR CHANCE AND WE HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT YESTERDAY, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF GEORGIA SO WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT ALL ELECTION RESULTS ARE VERT FIED IN LINE WITH THE STATE STATUTE. >> I THINK IT IS INTERESTING THAT DONALD TRUMP KNOWS THE GEORGIA ELECTION BOARD MEMBERS BY NAME. LET'S LISTEN TO HIM. >> THAT SHOULD TELL YOU A LOT. >> LET'S LISTEN TO HIM AT A RALLY IN GEORGIA JUST THE OTHER DAY. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD, BUT THE GEORGIA STATE ELECTION BOARD IS IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY, THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE THING, MARJORIE. THEY'RE ON FIRE. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. THREE MEMBERS. JOHN JOHNSON, RIG JEFFRIES, AND JANELLE KING. THREE PEOPLE. THEY ARE ALL PIT BULLS FIGHTING FOR HONESTY, TRANSPARENCY AND VICTORY. THEY ARE FIGHTING. >> IT IS ON AUGUST 3rd. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF -- IS IT NORMAL FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO KNOW THE MEMBERS OF A STATE ELECTION BOARD? >> THAT IS SO FAR FROM THE NORM FOR NOT ONLY ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO CALL OUT ELECTION BOARD MEMBERS BY NAME. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE DOING A JOB THAT DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE MEDIA OR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT CERTIFYING LIN AN ELECTION. IT IS NOT ABOUT INDEPENDENT OR DEMOCRATS. >> IT IS ABOUT EVERY VOTE SHOULD BE COUNTED. AND THAT RAISED ALARMS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING NEFARIOUS AT PLAY. BUT WE'VE SEEN THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN. WHEN DONALD TRUMP CAME BACK AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION AND ASKED OUR SECRETARY OF STATE TO HELP HIM FIND THOSE VOTES, THOSE 11,780 VOTES THAT HE LOST GEORGIA BY EVERY TIME THAT WE COUNTED RESULTS, HE TRIED TO OVERTURN THE WILL OF THE VOTERS AND HE'S TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF IT THIS TIME. BUT WE'RE ALSO WATCHING EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DOING. WE'VE ALREADY FILED A LAWSUIT. IT WAS JUST FILED YESTERDAY. AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL GET SOME RELIEF FROM THE SUPERIOR COURT HERE IN FULTON COUNTY SO WE COULD ASSURE VOTERS, NOT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS BUT ALL GEORGIA VOTERS IF THEY SHOW UP AND CAST THEIR BALLOTS, IT WILL BE COUNTED. >> KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALL STREET ARE GOING TO BE DOING A BUS TOUR IN GEORGIA COMING UP. AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN FULTON COUNTY AND DeKALB COUNTY AND BY SAVANNAH, THEY ARE DOING SOUTHERN GEORGIA. WHAT DOES IT SAY TO YOU THEY'RE GOING BEYOND THOSE PLACES? >> SO WE'VE BEEN CLEAR THAT THE WIN IN GEORGIA, WE'RE NOT CEDING ANY TERRITORY. WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY CORNER OF EVERY COUNTY AND THAT MEANS URBAN AND RURAL GEORGIA, ALL VOTES MATTER AND THIS ELECTION AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR MESSAGE OF FREEDOM AND OPPORTUNITY TO EVERYONE ON THIS CAMPAIGN TRAIL. I AM ENTHUSED TO WELCOME THEM BACK TO THE PEACH STATE AND I'LL BE MEETING THEM TOMORROW DOWN IN SOUTH GEORGIA FOR THE BUS TOUR SO WE HAVE DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VOTERS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE VOTE LRZ HAVE THE FINAL DAY WHEN WE SEND KAMALA HARRIS TO THE WHITE HOUSE. >> IS GEORGIA STILL PURPLE? >> GEORGIA IS NOT PURPLE, IT IS NOT THROUGH OR RED. WE'RE PERIWINKLE AND WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER FOR ALL GEORGIAN