Cleveland Browns Report: Live News & Rumors + Q&A w/ Matthew Peterson (July 30)

[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] what's going on everyone welcome on into a live Cleveland Browns report Matthew Peterson here with training camp well underway plenty to talk about on today's show we got some good news and rumors coming out of training camp that I'm excited to share with you all really a lot of ground to cover as Jeremy stallman Cuts me off mid openening monologue with not just a $5 super chat but a $50 Super Chat from the one and only Jeremy stalman get your Jeremy in the chat let's go Andrew Barry has finally realized that the Cleveland Browns chat sports channel is the new Secret Weapon It's about damn time let's go Browns thanks again py Jeremy thank you man I'm not quite sure if Andrew Barry does feel the same way but I sure hope he does it'd be awesome if just man do you understand what it would do to my ego if I the Browns were on Hard Knocks or something and just a clip of Andrew Barry listening to me in the car or at his desk my head would be so big it would not be able to fit out the studio door I would literally go over the moon and then I have to wonder what episode was he listening to and hopefully it was a good one uh Jeremy though MVP as always shout out to you man thank you so much you even got the party started before we started the live show with a $5 Super Chat hello at the golf course course Let's Get It Started let's go Browns Jeremy how are you shooting today I am a very I wouldn't say streaky golfer streaky golf player like I go through stretches where I play a lot of golf and then all of a sudden I realize the bag's been in my closet for like four months and it's been a little while what I would love to normalize for players like me who shoot between 100 and 110 so not like I'm hacking away at the course seven shots a hole but usually usually I'm playing bogey golf that's kind of my par I would love to normalize nine whole rounds 18 is a very intimidating to sign up for if I know I'm going to be the worst member in the group but I still liked going out there but by whole 13 I'm like if someone volunteered to go back to the parking lot I'd hop in that golf court right now so many times I've been like on an 18 whole course and I'm at like whole seven I'm like oh my God we're not even halfway there yeah wait we I'm I would love to normalize just hey let's play nine holes I I would play so much more golf if that was a legitimate option and and if and the other thing is the 18 holes take so long it takes like four and a half hours and it's so hot you get back in the car and you're like I didn't really work out I drove around like I was playing Mario Kart and I'm dripping in sweat Jeremy I hope you're shooting better than I usually shoot shout out to you man appreciate you as always all right uh we have the the Olympics coming up or excuse me Olympics are underway we have a fun conversation to have about that as I want to get everyone's favorite games going in the chat below but first I do want to 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download game time today last minute tickets lowest price guarantee all right one of the topics we will discuss today is whether or not you would like to see the Browns get a dome stadium we've talked about the dome stadium before on the channel and I used to be and I've said this before the Zar of no AFC North football is outdoors like divisions kind of have dnat AFC North football is physical it is violent and it is cold and grit and that's a gritty area right I mean the Rust Belt like that is a gritty part of the country some blue collar workers and that comes through in their football team all of that changed when producer Trace Gerard's New Orleans Saints now Trace just remind me the Saints southern team yes okay I thought I wasn't sure there a southern team in Louisiana where it's typically pretty hot and they play a dome next question they practice indoors or Outdoors a little bit of both they both but they have an indoor but they do have an indoor yes oh okay so when it gets too bad of weather they go inside yeah uh they came into Cleveland negative 20 in December and I wouldn't say beat the [ __ ] out of the Browns but beat the Browns with confidence not a fluke at that moment it all started to sink in it's cold I'm freezing you're freezing they're losing to a team that plays in a dome that is closer to Mexico City than Washington DC what are we doing why are we sitting in the cold if we're not at least rewarded with the win and at that point I decided you know what switching sides Call of Duty I'm on their team now like I am all of a sudden it's kind of like The Office episode when they can't decide if that one actress is hot you remember the one I'm talking about what's her name and they have the whole discussion Stanley gets into it I'm Kevin Malone I switch sides right not would you do do her it's is she hot that that's my stance on this now what was the actress's name I I I remember when I watched that watched that episode I was like I actually still have never heard of that actress before um who is Hillary Swank still I don't think I've ever actually seen her in anything um okay with that all being said though the Olympics are underway so I want to let the audience build up for a few more minutes before we start Today's Show what has been your favorite event at the Olympics hand up I'm a Avid Olympic lover I have not consumed much of the Olympics so far and I think there's always some factors that go into it what you're doing in your life when the Olympics rolled around every four years in 2016 I was in my dorm room as a freshman at College it was like orientation week and it was really easy just to be like I'm going to sit in my dorm and watch some Olympics and not do homework so I consumed a low ton of Olympics 2016 2021 that's covid that kind of gets thrown out the window for everyone but I still watched a lot of it this year I don't I don't think it's so much the time zone although that's been a little bit of a factor it's only been like five days but I haven't watched much of the Olympics I'll be honest well I feel like the lead up to the Olympics was so much like here's everything that is probably going to go wrong here and I'm like what have you seen like they spent $1.5 billion on cleaning the sen River and then it rained so much that the sewage water got pushed into the river and the E coli levels are too high that they can't swim in the river like they plan to and it keeps getting canel it say it's officially like they can't do it I don't know that was the last I saw I don't know if they're waiting for they keep delaying the river swimming or if they're just going to scrap it all together I don't know what plan B is but well and that's I saw also that they were letting boats still go up and down it's like how are you going to let that happen if you're trying to clean it up yeah um that and then also the opening ceremonies was beyond just weird what was that Recreation of The Last Supper did anyone need a recreation of the Last Supper no I felt like it was a pretty good painting like this isn't like a religious dance like it's better than I could ever do yeah I didn't think we had to recreate it that seemed weird and uncalled for like no one asked for that yeah it was it was odd yeah you're just like ruffling feathers that came out of nowhere that was just dumb so I'm not like boycotting the Olympics but I just really haven't been able to consume that much plus my desk in the office is parallel with the TV so I just can't see it at all so I can't even really watch it when I'm sitting at my desk doing work um okay I will say Terrence you're right the USA Women rugby ending was awesome yeah it was the equivalent of a 99 yard walk-off touchdown As Time expires I don't know much about rugby I don't understand why the Australian women's was not in a prevent defense like there should be some similarities between football and rugby there they were playing press man blitzing it looked like no deep safety whatsoever yeah you got to you got to drop you know J back at least the American woman just shed one tackle and was gone that seems like a fireball offense I would love for a rugby fan to give me like was that the Dolphins Miracle against the Patriots where they had grank lined up at tight end and and oh who was the running back that uh ranted him for a touchdown he just retired a few days ago oh my gosh this is going to drive me insane someone help me in the chat who was the Dolphins running back that completed the miracle in Miami uh he just retired a week ago Kenyan Drake Kenyan Drake still got it okay uh I saw Tim Green talk about this in the chat so Browns report meet and greet I'll be in the Cleveland area Thursday August is first we'll be getting together at 12:00 p.m. Eastern at Mast Head Brewing so if you're in the area would love if you could stop by grab a bite to eat get something to drink talk brownies talk football it's just a great way for me to try and meet some of the awesome viewers in person cuz to me everyone is just like a YouTube name and a tiny little picture which you know what that's cool for most of the time but when you've been doing this for as long as I've been doing it which is over 3 years now it's great to kind of put some you know faces to name so if you're in the area I would love if you could stop by Thursday August 1 that's 2 days from now 12:00 p.m. Eastern at Mast Tad brewing in downtown Cleveland all right if you have anything you want to ask or share use hash browns or Super Chat Jeremy stalman getting on screen twice with his super chat so if you want to get on screen let me know Tim Green if I go look for the old guy with a dirty shirt uh look for me and like all my polos uh that's pretty much my wardrobe uh Tim by the way did you see I meant to email you cuz Tim over the spring was the MVP of an episode and got to pick a future episode topic and he was like hey can we do some Browns history so on Friday's episode I think it was we spent the second half of the show going over just some like fun like Browns history moments and that video ended up being one of the most popular videos over the last couple of months so everyone wanted to see what Tim groom was talking about this whole time yeah I hope you enjoyed it Tim I really enjoyed making it uh um okay should we jump into what's on tap today so the latest news and rumors with a little bit of a sneak peek right there uh if you recognize the face training camp I guess concerns um I concerns may not be the best word because I think when I scripted this it started off with concerns and then I kind of alleviated those concerns and then we got a Browns vers Chiefs Madden Sim which good news Trace just came back from a bachelor party so he did not actually run the Sim so we have a chance of winning this game so hey forur the I like our chances we beat the Steelers last week when I right you are now one in like five I think yes okay um should we jump into the show I need a walk quick uh sip of water yeah sure um yeah I don't know what time man is time man's kind of like I wouldn't say graduated from us but he's a little too cool for school right now for the Browns report yeah time man's been hanging out with a lot of chat sports channels but know where his root started that I'm getting a little bit jealous just going to put that out there um okay here we go let's jump into a live Cleveland Browns report like the video if you haven't [Music] [Music] already I'm sure you're probably getting tired of me reminding everyone but this is the last time this upcoming Thursday August 1st we're going to have a channel meet and greet 12:00 p.m. Eastern at Mast Head Brewing in downtown Cleveland so if you're in the area I would love if you could stop by grab a bite to eat get something to drink talk brownies with me it's a great opportunity for me to put some of the faces to names that have been in the chat for so long so would love it if you can join this Thursday 12:00 p.m. Eastern Mast Head Brewing welcome on into the Cleveland Browns report coming up on today's show we're going to start off with the brown secret weapon and it's not what you're probably thinking J Grant delit no I'm going a completely different direction I'm going off the reservation the Browns I think have a secret weapon in Mike frel yes the consultant not even an official coach on this team but the way he is talked about and discussed and brought up in media press conferences with Andrew Barry and Kevin stefansky it's hard not to be excited about what the Browns have in Vel so let's tune into what Kevin stefansky said in his press conference on Tuesday about Mike Vel we have VES really focusing with the offense I mean VES were're having him do a bunch of different things and I know you guys are going to talk to him and and he can kind of you know tell you what he's doing but uh helps me a ton in in all the head coaching areas I can bounce things off of him helps our Personnel Group because he's got a very good eye for personnel uh and then I just think it's valuable to have a former defensive player former defensive coach in the offensive meeting so grav is in there with us on offense going kind of giving that perspective from a defensive side and then in particular working with the tight ends when we get to an individual perspective yeah Braves is awesome something that I've noticed over the last couple of practices and really going back to the spring is the Browns have three head coaches on their staff sansky Mike Vel and Jim Schwarz which sometimes can lead to too many cooks in the kitchen which if anyone goes to bar trivia with a large Team every so often you know what I mean by that but every single one of these coaches really seems to be loving their role Jim Schwarz is at a place where it's kind of like head coach retirement or like a halfway house where he goes you know what I'm probably not going to be an NFL head coach again so I don't mind kind of riding off into the sunset of my coaching career with just one thing in mind killing opposing quarterbacks and he's pretty darn good at it like he seems to really Embrace and love the role that he's in and not constantly searching to get out of the role he's in now Rael is not quite in the same camp because he's definitely looking to become a head coach again he was interviewing for head coaching vacancies just a few months ago but as a consultant like listen to what Andrew Barry has to say about this too it's not just me feeling this way yeah raes is awesome he's awesome and and we are lucky because I think and you all probably see it we're probably on you know on borrow time with him like but we're going to maximize it as as much as possible I think he has such a unique perspective because here's a former you know All Pro Player um you know coach it in power five college defensive coordinator and then um very very successful head coach in Tennessee so there's nothing that he hasn't seen or that he can't provide um you know insight into whether it's um how we're practicing on the field how we game plan our Player Development and player support areas you know how we think about um you know acquiring players whether it's in the draft or free agency so um you know we were certainly getting our money's worth with with with Mike um and we we couldn't be more uh pleased to have him here with us just to kind of pick you back off that might be on this is a guy that I think most people consider one of the top coaches the leag so just to have that opportunity to bring him in how exciting was that how quick did you it it was it was it was pretty exciting because I remember when um you know Kevin and I were talking about we were like do you think he'd do this like do you like do you think he'd do this or he's going to like maybe want to you know take take the year off with his family and so like we kind of like we kind of came in like softly tax F and it was like from the oh yeah I'd love to do this like yeah that'd be great like it's and it's and it's it's pretty cool because we had all you know we had no mic from you know uh Crossing presso past Kevin was on a committee with with him and everything but to see him dayto day I mean you would think he's a a firsttime NFL QC by how much he's like sprinting down up and down the field um so it's just it's really really awesome it's great it's it's very competitive energy because Mike uh Mike's a little bit of a trash talker sometimes but and he's a very active coach so um the guys the guys the guys love having them around changes have after listening to stefansky and Barry one not to sound like a total s but every single time Andrew Barry speaks it is so intoxicating because he's just so intelligent and it's so relieving to know like man do the Browns have the right guy at the wheel and that's something they've been searching for in a head coach in GM Duo since 99 and they've got it with Barry and stefansky and you don't need to second guess it two when it comes to Vel in particular I think he's going to be a huge asset this season and I think that Vel is already showing how big of an asset he will be on the practice field all training camp he's literally ending every single practice doing sprints with jamus Winston because he wants to get quote these old bones moving along but you just got to Envision that Vel with how great of a coach he was at Tennessee and I think what a dumb decision it was by the Titans to fire him after one season where things didn't go to plan because or I guess one and a half Seasons but a lot of injuries and poor quarterback play that were somewhat out of his control like to me that seemed like a premature pull of the plug but Rabel just the ability he has to hone in on individuals and get the best out of them like think about it this way stefansky has always been a bit more of a tactician like when you start this might go above people's heads though NCAA coach Dynasty mode you get to pick one of three options recr recruiter tactician or motivator and I think Andrew Barry's a great recruiter right he's put together an awesome roster I think Stans is a great tactician I do think he is a good play caller and sure he might over complicate it at times but overall I do think he from an ex no standpoint is brilliant but rael's your motivator and that's probably the last thing that was missing from stefansky and I think it speaks volumes that stefansky recognized like hey I'm not a perfect head coach so if r can kind of fill in some of the gaps that I'm not the best at that's just going to make this football team better and that's what makes me so excited about vel's addition to this roster now I also think it's important to note that Mike Vel himself said he will have no role on game day and this goes back to what I said earlier about having too many cooks in the kitchen like you don't want Mike Vel like on the sideline maybe contradicting with stanski would do or say because Vel is like old habits of being a head coach is kicking in and now you're getting conflicting messaging and instructions from two guys on the sideline no sansy is still the head coach he's still on charge on he's still in charge on Sundays but rael's going to make sure guys are getting ready from Monday to Saturday and that's going to be a huge awesome Improvement for this team and for this roster now before we look at the rest of today's show I do want to tell everyone about our friends over at game time Today's Show is sponsored by game time if you love summer baseball and want to catch a Guardians game or any other major league team in your area you're going to want to give game time a shot with game time you can take the guessing work out of buying MLB tickets because they are an authorized ticket Marketplace of Major League Baseball which means getting tickets easier and faster prices on the game time 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because doesn't appear like the Browns have a ton of optimism so let's say Nick chub stays on the pup list if you do not get off the pup list when roster cutd down day comes around you get moved from the active pist to the reserve pup list which means you have to miss a minimum of four weeks to start the season so that's kind of like a worst case and we'll talk more about that in a second but let's just remind everyone what the Browns have in their running back stable Jerome Ford Deontay Foreman and Pierre strong are your top three backs afterwards theem hindes I think is pretty much exclusively in a special team's role so my prediction is if the Browns do not have Nick chub for the first few weeks of the Season Jerome Ford will be the primary back on first and second down Pierre strong I know that people have mentioned as like in rotation with Jerome Ford but truth be told I don't think the Browns are going to be running the ball all that much to give enough Touches for there to be a balance between Ford and strong they didn't bring Ken dorsy in to help out Deshawn Watson to just turn around and go but you know who needs touches Pierre strong Jr now so I think it's four on first and second Pierre strong Jr for receiving Downs or receiving situations and Deontay Foreman will be that Kareem hunt of goal line packages third and inches just put it in his gut and have him drive the pile for forward ultimately if they don't have Nick chub they're probably not going to be a high run rate team they're going to be passing the ball a lot they'll check the box of running it from time to time so the defense doesn't the offense doesn't become too predictable but I don't think you're going to see a good amount of touches going around all three other backs I think you're going to see an uptick and passing now you can look at the stats last year Deontay Foreman the most uh you know notable addition in terms of offseason acquisitions in the running back room really the only one and last year for the Bears he kind of flirted between being a healthy scratch and being injured and missing time but the Browns they're confident at least they are publicly confident as they should be in the other three backs now the plausible worst case scenario like I mentioned earlier is four weeks without Nick chub if he stays on the pup list he has to miss a minimum of four weeks and then a 5we practice window opens up I don't think and this is a little bit of wishful thinking but a little bit of honest thinking as well I don't think Nick chub will be placed on the reserve pist I I don't think the Browns are going to shut him down for a minimum of four weeks if you guys recall when obj was coming back from his tourn ACL the Browns could have kept obj on the pup list or placed him on ir and if you place a guy in IR to start the season they're out the first four weeks they didn't do that because they felt back at least by week three and sure enough he came back for the third week of the Season same thing happened with Jack conin my guess is the Browns won't want to put themselves in a spot where they can't have Nick chub Services if he's ready earlier than expected because they didn't want to waste a roster spot on him I I think they're willing to gamble on yeah chub might miss the first two maybe three weeks but the moment we can get him back we want him back and if that happens to be the fourth week we'll burn a roster spot on him for the first three weeks because he's that valuable to us now before we wrap up today's show I just want to show some love to those of you that subscribed to the channel helped us reach 35,000 subscribers believe me it does not get lost on me how much this channel has grown over the last three years so Jack Brian Wagner Brandon Campbell Keith Blackwell thank you guys so much for joining the channel helping us get over that hump of 35 5K and if you want a shout out on a future episode make sure to hit that sub button down below right last story line we got to go over D I think everyone's not getting tired of this conversation but they're getting tired of how slowly the updates are progressing and they're like just tell us what's going to happen I don't really need to be involved in this really boring episode of Game of Thrones with a bunch of dialogue and no battles like that's kind of what's going on with the Browns Dome situation but it appears to be gaining more more more and more momentum so here's what Andrew Barry said to the media on Monday when asked about the Dome potential so I'll say first and foremost um from a football standpoint any solution is like we're a yes like two two thumbs up because any um solution where we're improving our home environment where we're improving The Fan Experience like that's going to be great for us regardless of where you know outdoors and indoors I know um you know ownership Dave Jenkins um you know our local politicians are are hard at work on a solution if you're asking my opinion personally um you know I personally think that we are like paying these guys to be athletes as opposed to to Gladiators so I'd prefer like the don't solution I'd prefer to be um indoors um I think that's you know I think that's better for the team and I also think being in the midwest you know with the elements and everything it's better for our fans as well it creates a better um Fan Experience late you know late in the year when we're you know when we're making those those playoff pushes but I do I do want to emphasize any solution is a good solution we're happy whether it's a renovation a build you know whatever um because it just means that our home environment is that much more of a home field advantage here in play you I know that adding a dome stadium is not something that everyone can agree on because it comes with some pros and cons the biggest con is it would likely result in the team or the stadium moving out to the suburbs and not being in Cleveland I I don't know how this else to say it other than a dome stadium is coming one way or the other it's going to happen whether that means the city of Cleveland and maybe the county Andor State Pony up a little bit more money because the HMS although being billionaires still want to split the cost some way at some point the Browns and the ownership are going to get what they want and they want a dome stadium they may try and play Both Sides to keep everyone happy for as long as possible but when that day comes where there's a fork in the road and they have to make a decision they're turning to whichever way says dome stadium here now I was team no Dome that's not AFC North football it's not grit it's not physical it's not violent it's candy ass it's Southern until a southern team like the Saints came and knocked the Browns out of the playoffs in December that's when I decided all right I'm switching sides because I'm not going to sit in the cold and watch them lose to a team from New Orleans if this is the price of an outdoor stadium when we could at least be comfortable and watch them lose to a team from New Orleans plus not that Deshawn Watson and a dome could overlap too much I mean this Dome could be five years away and I'm not going to you know look at a crystal ball and look that far in the future but quarterbacks play better in a do that's just a fact so do you guys want a dome stadium I'll turn it over to you to kind of wrap up the video give me a y for yes or an N for no down in the comment section yes or no to a dome stadium I'm typing why for yes I will say though the one reason that people use for adding a dome that I don't agree with is you can get so many events final fours Super Bowls the Vikings got a dome stadium they got the Super Bowl they got the final four I don't think either one of those events plan on going back to Minnesota so don't sell people this lie of it's going to bring in so much stuff like super bowls and final fours drop the S you get one does anyone think the final four is going back to Minneapolis anytime soon or the NFL is bringing the Super Bowl back to Minneapolis probably not if they do it's probably going to be for another 20 years so that I never agree with that logic that is just untrue and I also think with how big of a success the Super Bowl was in Vegas last year the NFL is very quick to react to good news and put things in motion wow we dominated Christmas Day because it happened to fall on one of our days ah next year it's on a Wednesday no we're still going to play on Christmas day does anyone think the NFL wouldn't rule out just a permanent rotation of like three cities Las Vegas Sofi and maybe Glendale whichever places are the best host for a Super Bowl and just ping pong between those three cities it moved the draft to every other City that gets upset about it all right let's pick up uh try Trace here to pick a card I'm going to go with the seven of diamonds seven of diamonds let's do it all right I'm going to go with the six of Hearts here we go come on give me something good no anyone get in this chat right no nine of Spades nine of Spades all right that will do it for us on today's episode thank you guys so much for tuning in enjoy the rest of your day I'll see everyone Thursday August 1st 12 p.m. Eastern Mast Head Brewing in Cleveland we got a boatload of super chats to catch up on try Trace Joshua Miller with a $5 Super Chat let's go of all of Jim schwarz's coaching stops is this the best defense he has coached maybe a future topic question he took a lions defense that was the worst in the NFL in 2000 his first year there was 2008 I think it was and he got them to a good spot having AIC Su probably helped a lot but that was impressive the Eagles defense he inherited that he won a Super Bowl with was already a solid defense uh they weren't bad by any stretch the bills were also in a good spot is right they were kind of coming off the Rex run I'm getting my timeline in corre in order so I'd say that I mean it's hard to say the best because he inherited miles Garrett like Denzel ward he inherited some really good players but he got them to number one in his first year it's hard to do better than that so I'd say yes but we got to see it probably over a longer period of time than just one year Josh as always appreciate your questions David botner with a $10 Super Chat let's go David really appreciate what you guys do exceptional work can't wait to have you guys streaming while I'm watching the game live this season much appreciation David cheers to you these comments always make my day thank you so much man football can't get here soon enough because it's not here yet Trace would like to disagree he's usually uh the captain of football is back for the first preseason game so I I've I've flipped my my opinion similar how you flipped your opinion I'm I'm kind of with you that training camp and preseason are really football it's it's like watching Little League Football you know it's it's not the same in order for football to be back here's why I don't like that expression if football is back then when the regular season starts you can't say again football is back and that's what everyone does great Point great point no football is back only once and it's when the regular season starts and here's how I know that no one here watches other preseason games we all watch other regular season games that's a good point point number two this Thursday NFL Hall of Fame game Bears Texans everyone's going to have the first quarter on this will be a game that if your significant other at halftime says hey can we switch the channel to this you won't say no and if you do say no you're not going to argue it that hard yeah if they're like can we please watch this instead you'll be like you know what I'll pretend like I really wanted to watch this so that it looks like I'm getting brownie points but in reality I'm perfectly fine to put on Love is Blind like that's how you know football's not back uh David thank you so much man Jeremy stallman with a $10 Super Chat hey shout out Joshua Miller if he is not on the MVP board please put him on he is always support in the chat let's peek the board Josh is absolutely always uh support in the chat but Joshua Miller was the Third Edition to the MVP board so J J yeah Jeremy if you'd like to put someone else on by all means feel free to substitute that uh with another name Joshua Miller absolutely a member of the MVP board but Jeremy shout out to you for being the chat philanthropist uh no other way to put it uh if you in a fraternity you know the like philanthropy chair has like the worst job in the world but Jeremy would be an awesome philanthropy chair that in the finance chair oh the finan make him pay your dudes yeah Josh AB goes back in time name one decision he changed es I would say I don't know I really don't know I'm not saying this from a place of knowledge if he had again this is I think he would have been a bigger um pursue not work I think he would have pursued DeAndre Hopkins for there it didn't go well with dpj last year he was a non-factor let's be honest he got traded he didn't produce much I'm not sure how much the Browns passed on DeAndre Hopkins because they felt like they would get more out of Donovan people's Jones now of course I don't think DeAndre Hopkins would have change much of last year because the whole point of signing him would have been to pair him back with desun Watson and then Watson got hurt so I don't know if that's one he looks at and goes man that could have changed the whole season for us that's definitely one thing that comes to mind draft wise he hasn't picked early I mean probably pick Tristan wors over Jed Wills that's probably one he'd like to undo but I want I would love to know how serious they ever were about Hopkins and if they were serious but decided to back off do they look back and go man I mean they got Jerry Judy now they probably wouldn't have Judy or it'd be a very different wide receiver so hard to say uh Jeremy stalman with a $10 Super Chat damn it's 101 here in Colorado but the ball is flying great altitude and warm air balls move a lot further playing with pukes pukes Burger Steelers fans watching them choking on their balls as if they will this season fit that's incredible Jeremy I love that oh keep hit him long and straight Jeremy go brownies you're you're you're serving us proud appreciate you s what's going on my man can't be there in person on Thursday Pete use this for your first beer on me thanks for your channel and insight s thank you so much dude it's always great to see you especially during the live chats of our watch parties I still remember the first time s joined a watch party he was at a Browns backers not a Browns backward bar I take that back he's at a a bar watching the Browns Chargers game in San Diego and he was surrounded by enemies and he's like I don't know what the circumstances were for you to have me on at a bar unless you like a you know headphones with you probably wouldn't be very optimal but ever since then s's been a main stay every Sunday so go brownies cheers to you s we'll miss you for sure on Thursday Jeremy S I second that it's beer 30 it's uh one second I S I second that it's beer 30 somewhere oh I I felt really dumb for a moment there I had never heard that one before I've I've I've always heard the oh yeah it's beer 15 or it's shot o'clock or it's shot 4 and and yeah I'm going to steal that one it's a good one and I probably won't give credit Jeremy but in my mind I will give you credit but I you know when people get a chuckle out of it I'll pass it off as an original thought Jeremy thank you as always dude here's beer for cool guy called Zone I don't know if cool guy is 21 I feel like cool guy recently shared a high school graduation with us I think that was last year so cool guy let me know if you're 21 not that I'm a police officer or a narc but I don't know if I can across the YouTube platform in you know endorse underage drinking it's always Beer Authority for Tim Green okay are we ready to jump into our second segment we got a fun segment it's about training camp and some of the deeper like rumors and overall impressions that people have Come Away with after one week of training camp shot 15 and beer 30 okay I like it cool guy if been a fan since 99 so what uh do you want that info so cool guy is 20 I mean okay by that do you mean you were born in 99 cuz then that's very easy to deduce but I guess either way you'd still be over 21 so cool guys in the clear I feel bad I just made cool guys sound like an adolescent there's some 25-year-old hanging out he's like what the [ __ ] is this guy's problem act like I'm 19 years old I've got hair in my chest peety okay here we go let's jump into the live show part two coming up on today's show we're going to break down some of the brown training camp notes and Analysis and insight they came out of a really interesting article from ESPN where they sent some of their best and some of my favorite reporters they have to just a few different training camp locations and have them kind of sit down talk with coaches players GMS and write what they've seen after a week somewhat from like a non-biased perspective whereas sometimes a local beat reporter might try to be a little bit more on the optimistic side half glass full just to kind of get a good following and viewership around them so first thing I want to talk about is Ken dorsy and him not calling plays because that was something that Dan Graziano noticed and talked to Andrew Barry about which is hey if dorsy was brought in and he's not going to call play he like not what is he going to do because an offensive coordinator that's not a play caller still has plenty on their plate but also what's he gonna do and here's what Barry said as an OC he's always had a top 10 offense he's he really turned Josh Allen's career and Cam Newton was an MVP under his tutelage he's a really good quarterback guy a really good pass game guy and then just philosophically we wanted to be better in the D back game the RPO game and really kind of expand our use of motion in our Core Concepts and also increase our Tempo those are all areas where Ken has excelled everywhere he's been so let's break some of those parts of the offense down that Andrew Barry talked about I want to start off by acknowledging that DeShaun Watson practicing and who remembers and who probably got tired of me preaching about this for so many months leading up to training camp that it's so important for Watson to be here for the started camp this is why look at all the things Andrew Barry just listed not just one thing but a lot of things that they want to see Improvement or more importantly change not just Improvement but like philosophically changing up your scheme you want your starting quarterback to be getting live reps during that change and not playing catchup when the regular season starts but let's tackle it kind of bit by bit let's start the RPO run pass option if you played NCAA you know how hard that can be um look at the Browns the last two years under stefansky and what I've got here is all the quarterbacks not just DeShaun Watson all the quarterbacks the RPO completions and attempts and look at the difference between the Browns and the bills I mean the bills last year with Ken dorsy surfing at serving as the OC for half the year 70 RPO attempts in 2022 62 I mean that's more than double than what the Browns did in 2022 so if the Browns plan on adding more RPO to their offense kend dorsy is a great addition to help smooth out some of the bumps because he's got plenty of experience doing that with Josh Allen and buffalo now when it comes to no huddle this stat is a little bit misleading the Browns last year ran a no huddle offense 6.1% of the time that ranked 24th in the NFL do you want to take a guess at who was 32nd in the NFL in uh no huddle the Kansas City Chiefs so if the Chiefs don't do it why would anyone do it well the Chiefs don't need to do it because the Chiefs don't find themselves trailing in the fourth quarter very often needing to run a two-minute drill no huddle offense so sometimes the no hle can be a bigger indicator of hey which teams are trailing a lot and need to get a pep in their step and get a move on but if you're looking for just some data point the Browns are in the back of the pack of running a no huddle offense last year so with all that being said I'd prefer and I know the Browns have not given a concrete answer one way or the other for Deshaun Watson to play some in the preseason I would prefer that his first live snap after going under shoulder surgery and not playing since the Ravens game last year not to be against Micah Parsons and the Cowboys I'd like to see DeShaun Watson kind of shake the rust off but also kind of get back into a rhythm and get back to playing live football at some point in the preseason maybe it's just one series but just to kind of get that feeling back and go like okay I know this it's been a little while it's been 10 months and it's been you know six seven months for pretty much everyone that didn't play in the Super Bowl but for Watson it's been a little bit longer and then you add in how much football he missed before that injury I think it's important just to get the guy in the field like don't play this game of we don't want him to get hurt like he's got to play football for you so I'd like to see him kind of shap the cobwebs in August and not September so what is your confidence level in 2024 tohaa Watson scale it 1 to 10 for me for me I'd put myself on the much more confidence side I I'll put myself at a 7.3 like I think that deshun Watson's going to have the best year yet which I mean the bar is not super high after two seasons seven touchdowns a pop only played six games in each year so I 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off download game time today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed so let's switch gears a little bit and talk about uh DeShaun Watson specifically as Dan Graziano also highlighted a really interesting part of what he observed during training camp and here's what he wrote Barry pointed out to me that the Browns threw the ball on 41% of their first downs in game started by Watson last season but in game started by Joe Flo that number was 60% stefansky down played that pointing out that one of Watson's games was a rainy outing against Cincinnati and another one is another one in which he left after five throws due to injury the Colts game so stefansky does bring some really important context to that stat but if the Browns are not exploring but are planning on being more aggressive on first downs because usually teams approach first downs at least oldfashioned wise as follows hey run the ball on first down so that you get yourself in second and more manageable compared to Second and 10 if you find yourself with an incompleted pass then you feel obligated to throw on second and 10 and if that's incomplete now you're at third and long so before it was run run pass now you're starting to see teams go you know what if they're expecting run let's pass so let's compare the Browns the last two years with stefansky as the play caller to kandori and buffalo and look at the first down passing last year Cleveland 228 attempts only completing 57% of their passes now the bill is not far off from that now this part's not completely on coaching but look at the sizable jump in completion percentage though not quite sure what dorsy was dialing up but clearly it was more successful than the Browns and yes having Josh Allen's a major factor in that but I don't think a 100% of that difference can be attributed to the quarterback uh 2022 only 184 pass attempts on first down compared to Buffalo with dorsy being the OC the entire season 243 attempts so if the plan is to be more aggressive on first down then Ken dorsy is a great mind to have in the building to make sure they are successful when preparing for that all week long having said all this what does that mean for Nick chup because if the previous plan was run on first down run on second down and pass on third down then what's going to happen with Nick chub like look at Nick chub's stats first second third and fourth down does anyone notice when he gets a lot of his touches I mean this is not just unique to Nick chub but 764 Carries On First first down look at the drop off the second down it it's not even close 401 carries I was surprised to see how few carries in his entire NFL career just 60 carries on third down Nick chub has played a lot of games now in Nick chub's career he averages 16.1 carries per game so if on average which on average he's getting 16 carries a game and a good chunk of those carries come on first down and the Browns are now planning on being a much more air happppy offense on first down where does Nick chub get his touches the answer is partially we'll have to wait and see but my guess is Nick chub is not going to see a sizable drop in usage I don't think he's going to average 16 carries a game this season but I think the Browns plan for Nick chub is hey you're just going to get a lot more the touches than you did before and there's not going to be much of a splitter rotation with the other backs so you'll still get over 10 carries a game and we'll still work you in on first downs because we're not passing 100% of the time but if we pass the ball on first down 15 20% more than we did last year that 15 20% is coming out of your touches which is probably where you see Nick chub go from 16 carries down to like 12 to 13 carries and that might not seem like a big jump for just one game but multiply that over 17 that's a lot of touches now before we wrap up today's video If you enjoyed our episode today before you leave reminder to go ahead and like the video it really does help grow the channel if the channel gets a lot of likes YouTube sees that and they're like wow this is a really fun Channel let's show it to more of Browns fans and then we get more eyeballs more subscribers more Studio space more content to think it all starts with a simple life try Trace which card do you want to go with give me the seven of Hearts seven of Hearts oh yeah I'm going to go with the Queen of Clubs I'm feeling good about this one too I I kind of like yours D you want to switch no I'm not gonna F I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna back down here no two a clubs so I kind of not right but at least in the some in the right galaxy all right that will do it for us on today's show thank you all so much for watching make sure to like And subscribe if you enjoyed it and we'll see everyone next time all right who's ready for the big shebang Madden time we are entering week 15 of the Madden world can you believe it it feels like this Madden season's flying by yeah anyone get the card right no no one was even close ghost face is here good to see you all right uh Tim Green what is the status on the side onside kick rules now I'm seeing a lot of displeasure on other channels so I did see this recent like I wouldn't say I don't know if it's a reminder or if it's a change to the rule or if this has been the rule the whole time but I'm seeing like now onsite kicks I'm like is it now isn't like today day or like this was part of the rule change back in April and it's just being refreshed today but this was always the case with onside kicks that there are no more surprise onside kicks like that's just completely taken out of the game what I don't know if it's new or if it's always been the case and it's just being resurfaced you can only do onside kicks in the fourth quarter and you could only do them if you're trailing and you have to announce an onside kick because they have to they have to line up for an onside kick so that's kind of you know part of the no more surprise onside kicks but as much of a bummer as it will be to take away surprise onside kicks how often do they happen I can't maybe I'm I can't remember the last round surprise onsite kick like the only one that comes to my mind is the Saints in the Super Bowl that's the only surprise like surprise onside kick I could think of so like cuz like even other onside kicks it's like you could kind of expect it it's fourth quarter so like cool guy you say that takes the fun out of the game okay sure surprise outside kicks are fun you know what else is fun regular kick returns which have been taken out of the game so I if surprise onside kicks is the victim to re returns being brought back I'll make that swap I'll make that trade I'd make that deal you make that deal I'd make that deal Jeremy stall with a $50 Super Chat let's go Jeremy sorry I want to sorry I want uh sorry I won't make them uh excuse me sorry I won't make it to the meet up in Cleveland um because but I because I will be flying we're here to everyone that shows up let's go Brown Jeremy stalman picking up a couple of appetizers do you want to look up the menu there and we could start letting Jeremy pick out some apps with all of his generous uh contributions to the channel I love scouting out good appetizers if I I'm a big you know what if you're dining with me you're getting an appetizer we got some good apps oh you look at to yeah there's nothing better than when you sit down and maybe you're not dining with people that you're you know super familiar with and waiter comes by and says you guys start any appetizers and someone just jumps in with one you're like like oh my God I didn't want to sound like the fat ass but yeah I'd love an appetizer I I'm that guy oh I'll I'll take one for the team I have to be embarr okay we love some good pizza appetizers got some sandwiches okay um so you got everything pretzel bacon dip goat cheese stuffed dates hummus I like hummus pizzas um I'm there's a lot of pizzas salads that's not a good appetizer not a good appetizer I would never order salad no uh love if someone wears mozzarella sticks I love them my favorite's probably like cheese curds yeah it's a good one you know when it comes to appetizers what I don't like is if it's everyone just gets one thing I want to keep going back in like if you get wings everyone gets like two wings I don't want that I want to have eight to 10 of some item okay um here we go are we ready to start our Madden stream Browns hosting the defending Super Bowl champ the Kansas City Chiefs I'm excited okay as uh Trace gets ready for this one make sure to like today's video if you're just tuning in would really appreciate it uh Tim Green calamari with lemon I like calamari I don't order calamari not that I dislike it or anything but I can usually find something I like more that's kind of my piece with calamari that's I'm also like this would sound like a bad food take and Trac has heard me say this before I don't love Italian food because I always just end up getting pizza pizza's awesome so I it's so good if Pizza is not if if Pizza is sharing a menu with pasta I take pizza every single time so I end up very rarely getting pasta so I'm not a huge like I love going to Italian restaurants I'm getting pizza I I don't give a [ __ ] if I look like a 12-year-old okay Josh chicken fing fingers and fries that's an awesome appetizer too so many great apps so many great selections okay let's jump into our Madden Sim Chiefs in Cleveland Madden time here as the 75- one Browns go up against the Kansas City Chiefs 9 and four years so far for KC so right about where they were this time last year now the AFC North has been Rocky so far uh I'm not really sure if this is going to be an accurate representation of this year but this is what Madden cooked up round 7even and5 75 and one Bengals 66 and one they got that tie with with Cincinnati Ravens at six and seven is a huge surprise and then the Steelers at 5 and eight is not a surprise to me so who do you got in this game today Browns Chiefs give me a B for brownies give me a c for Chiefs I only want to see a billion B's in the comment section below so start spamming B for me as the intro to the Madden game rolls let's go brownies it is a frosty day in Northeast Ohio trace the snow is on the ground as Deshawn Watson and company gets set for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs quick reminder this is Madden 24 with updated rosters of Madden 25 so we got jerseys like this uh but so be it Browns vers Chiefs I'm excited did Patrick Mahomes and company coming to KC for I mean the first time in a long time here we go DeShaun Watson who's been excellent by the way in the Madden world like I don't know if he's been like MVP good but he's been very good he has lived up to the billing of what the Browns gave up for him and then awarded him in a contract start spamming B stans's Chile DeShaun Watson's rallying up the troops let's go boy boys looks like Valley Forge out there the British are on the other side or I guess the Hans are really on the other side sneak attack here we go Jeremy stalman hanging out with us good to see you what's that what whoa just got some uh Intel put in my ear chat sports rumors I can't share just yet or probably ever hope I didn't do anything wrong yeah okay uh I gotta get that out of my head right now no that's fine I will add that this person kind of gave me like a death glare today I was like that's kind of weird not a death glare but okay back to the Madden game enough of the chat sports rumors um yeah the return sucks when I play NCAA now I never let my guy take it out I fair catch every time it's automatic 25 yd line at best you get to what 26 27 rarely are you going to get to the 30 yeah oh God no that that is non-existent all right Browns fans I need everyone to type here we go brownies here we go woof woof here we go brownies here we go wo woof we got Patrick Mahomes lining up in the gun from their own 20 momes looking throwing he is broken up let's go nice play made that looks like Ronnie Hickman I believe Inc complete pass second and 10 not going to lie when Patrick Mahomes and he's deserve he's earned this drops back to pass I'm always thinking oh [ __ ] the longer he holds it usually for other quarterbacks like all right good we can sack now that's usually not the case with Patty Mahomes second and 10 momes down the right sideline that is incomplete and there's an injured KC offensive lineman too so just a bad sequence this I'm not sure who that is but they seem to be in some discomfort third and 10 span those threes let's go spam those threes get those threes in the chat third down Andy Reid look skinny to you guys in this game he he he lost some weight and then I thought he put it back on which Andy re's better the fatter he is third and 10 momes once again looking flushed out of the pocket he will Chuck it out of bounds incomplete the Browns force a quick three and out let's go Mahomes is rattled rattled they dude can't play in the snow no Kansas City warm that by the way not to go off topic here that's got to be the worst weather in the country they have sweltering hot summers and freezing cold Winters impossible to be that like hot and cold oh boy punt return starting at the 30 and it'll stop at the 35 this would be a really good time for the Browns to go and score a touchdown so Desa Watson and Company by the way usually the producer has seen parts of the game or at least knows the outcome of the game do you know the outcome of the game so we're all watching this for the first time I always am watching for the first time but usually the producer who recorded it knows it but this time Trace didn't record it someone else did so it's a it's a brand new movie for all of us first and 10 here we go justan Watson will line up under center from his own 35 takes the snap it's a drop back Watson with time planting throwing in complete was looking for chub just not on Target and it'll be second and 10 Carson Wentz yeah if he gets a Super Bowl ring I don't think he should actually get it doesn't feel like Carson Wentz is someone who should ever get a although I I take that back he already has one Nick FES got him one that was stupid of me that was a dumb dumb moment second and 10 it's a run for chub this is going basically nowhere gain of one third and nine third down quiet offense is at work I love when the Jumbo Tron puts that up quiet offense is at work it's usually like a construction logo too third and N in the gun Watson good protection will tuck it and run he has some space Watson is taken down two yards shy of the line of gain good tackle by Drew tranquil is one of the better offine up ball linebackers and you saw why it looked like Watson had good job chub just right there so fourth and two and this might be the first time Madden look how skinny Reed is O zpic Andy re um that we saw both coach or both teams punt on their opening Series High into the Cleveland Sky they return across the 15 out to the 20 and stop before the 20 25 so momes will be backed up for a second straight drive early here in the first quarter scoreless do we have ourselves a defensive Showdown we could and I'm not going to lie I couldn't see the uh punt returner until the ball was in his hands so that was the white on the snow made it kind of tough I could only imagine what the quarterback is seeing right now first and 10 momes in the gun takes the snap it's a run up the gut PCO good gain first down and more Isaiah Pacho gain of 12 J's unhappy Kansas City breaks the Huddle at their own 36 snap to momes he looks around throwing down the right sideline that's broken up momes has not completed a pass today I'd love to know the longest Patrick Mahomes has started a game without a completion like how many attempts has it taken him to get his first completion I doubt it's more than five can you envision Mahomes starting off 0 for six it's hard for any quarterback to start off 0 for six second and 10 that one is completed and it's a gain of six so third and four here we go spam those threes Jordan Hicks on the stop third down let's get a stop let's get a stop third and four in the gun momes with time throwing deep oh no oh no cadarius Tony is that who I think that is oh that sucks there is nothing worse than a big completion on third down you feel like you're about like on second down okay you're like whoa didn't see that one coming third down just the swing of emotions to we're about to get off the field to they have first and goal now how did that happen from the 10 momes will drop back he is pressured he will run with it and he slides gets about half the distance needed second and goal come on boys momes in the gun from the six oh I saw that fall start too B starting the right tackle who replaced wasn't Donovan Smith their right tackle last year but he's not there anymore he went to the Bengals right that's what Madden's good for it's a good reminder of some of the free agent moves second and goal momes throwing End Zone caught touchdown Travis Kelsey in a homecoming type game Kel is the first one to score the only good thing about this is that even in Madden they don't have the capabilities to go to Taylor Swift in the box so we do not get to see Taylor Swift's box jant oh that was okay he came over from Jacksonville I thought he was their left tackle but no Smith was the left tackle last year or did they move him okay I think they mooved dwan Taylor from left tackle to right tackle or Donovan Smith last year was the left tackle the whole time yeah W Morris uh Tennessee Legend transferred to Oklahoma seven nothing bad guys I can't get over skinny Andy that's listen Andy Reid can't have all the Rings and be skinny it's one of the other all right while they're getting ready for the kickoff here make sure you get yourself a brown t-shirt combo 40% off at chatsports.com combo I put that link in the comments and description of today's video get yourself a Browns t-shirt combo today 40% off as we go back to nahem Hines returning a kick this is not going to go well he doesn't even get to the 25 so Watson and Company will trop back on the field trailing 7even nothing this time little over two minutes to go in the first quarter Elijah Moore has been relatively quiet this year like he'll have some good catches and he'll have some good moments here and there but I kind of wish I kept stats but I I just not going to go back in time and rewatch all my games I think Jared Judy has been the best receiver this season it's a run for chub left side first down to more chub across the 40 chub shoved Out of Bounds at the 50 yd line Brian Allen without shoulder pads loves it Nick j big gain on first down let's go first and 10 brownies at Midfield Watson under Center play fake pressure mounting and he sacked um if there is one thing that Watson has not been the best at in the Madden world it is aoid voiding sacks whether that's just a little bit of holding on to the ball too long or one thing or the other we got some super chats rolling in we'll throw them on screen in just a second here second and 17 so a big loss Watson and the gun this time he checks it down it's caught and they'll get about half the yardage third and seven here James Harper with a $2 Super Chat just got here how are you py James I'm doing great I'd probably be a a little bit better if it wasn't seven nothing Chiefs but you know what I will not let a Madden game dictate my mental health I reserve that for the entire fall uh appreciate you James we look at Jeremy after this third and seven here snap to Watson he will throw that's broken up fourth and seven Dam so the Browns are looking at a second straight punt Jeremy what's going on dude you say t Swift's box got to love her Bo I I don't know what J what Jeremy's talking about here I just know that if Travis Kel is here Tor swi is probably here they definitely got a box for her and it would be her box so I wonderful see teror with box first and 10 I don't get the funny thing that you guys are laughing at momes do you think like Britney's in her box maybe I spices in her box yeah I feel bad for Te would have to put with yeah that that's a bad Force friendship that really is first and 10 in the gun snap to momes he looks around he throws middle of the field caught gain of 12 first down finding his best man Travis Kelce I wonder if Mahomes got married today if Kelsey would be his actual best man and I only ask that like I think sometimes us fans kind of uh build up onfield chemistry as to off field friendship and maybe like all along mahomes's best friend is the backup right tackle and we just don't know about that another strike over the middle this one's not getting out of control but when kadar's Tony is torching you we have to have a conversation with the DBS one Thor Hill I'm hoping he'll have a big year this year kind of a bounceback season bur and 10 across Midfield momes trying to add on to a 7 nothing lead to start the second quarter snap to momes he throws deep again that's caught again and another first down so oh that's not is that cadar I don't think who is five on the Chiefs can you look that up for me I thought he was like 19 anyway it's not rice it's loading oh see that's why Madden's good I kind of forgot about Hollywood Brown going to Kansas City so okay Hollywood Brown is allowed to cook us incomplete pass overthrow second and 10 see now when the season rolls around and that first pass from Mahomes to Brown is completed on Thursday Night Football you're not going to be looking around going who's that like you'll know like well if you watch PD's Madden Sims you know that's Hollywood Brown that's the kind of insight we have over there Mahomes quick throw right side caught gain of five third down spam those threes spam those threes let's go third down third and five uh I'll say it right now this is the game if you get off the field force a field goal 10 nothing first Downs probably going result in a touchdown later this is the game oh I don't know that's a stop that's a stop that's fourth and one season still alive baby let a stop Harrison bucker are they going to go for it sometimes they do this and then yeah they they like Madden's dumb oh what did he get it was that a fake field goal who got the first the Browns first down what just happened oh you got to be [ __ ] me they went for it and got it Mahomes hands it off peo right side gain of five damn now second and five Patrick Mahomes lines up under Center eye formation snap pitch left Pacho running with it just horrible Vision by Pacho it looked like there was an opportunity for him to go get six he decides instead of the open patch of grass Denzel Wards looking pretty tempting right now third and three the issue is this drive has been like four minutes long Browns do get the ball to start the second half though we can get the the two for one special first down carry but it comes at a price big hit to Pacho as Kansas City is bleeding a lot of time off the clock here to round out the first half first and 10 for momes in the gun takes the snap looking pressure throws back of the end zone in complete pressure mounted couldn't take it second and 10 okay hold them to a field goal hold him to a field goal get the ball score half time score we're either tied down four with the lead that's the path right there but it starts with the field goal right here second and 10 momes titty city Kelsey second touchdown today damn it 14 nothing back guys all right offense your turn need a response here I mean a touchdown to close out the half would be a huge momentum swing a big jolt of life to this team but right now Kanas city has a firm lead in this game somehow trace's Saints beat the Chiefs in this game by the way in AirHead on Monday Night Football yeah which actually sounds very plausible because that feels like a game where the Chiefs would Sleepwalk you would lose your mind I think I would literally piss my pants and Derek car would kind of be like the topic of discussion for a couple of days you know what I don't care what's going on in the world at that moment like in the NFL world I'm putting everything on the Saints money line for that Monday night game that screams overlooked by the Chiefs which they've been caught doing before last year they lost uh this one was in Arrow but they lost at Lambo to at the time not a great Packers team first and 10 Browns need a score what you can't have here though is you just can't give the ball back to Kansas City with a lot of time left Watson on first down we'll look around he'll throw incomplete I mean so far it hasn't been sharp from Watson second and 10 Deshawn lines up under Center drop back throw Crosser middle of the field first down let's go Jeremy stallman we got two super Chats on Jeremy to catch up on we'll get to those now two minute warning I guess so first down brownies let's go you know you both would love to be in her box LOL I mean it's warm they definitely have good food yeah they're going to have the best service a lot to eat probably get on TV probably got on TV and warm for starters no doubt look how cold it is out there uh Jeremy smile py if they score here I'll smile handshake the first first and 10 Watson surveying Watson throwing caught first no incomplete damn thought he had it yeah second down both teams have all their timeouts remaining Kel is going for the high fives at their own 40 I mean they're probably a solid 25 yards away from field goal range in this weather Watson all by himself in the gun throwing just not on target man was open throw wasn't there third down here we go I want this ball going to one man and one man only Amari Cooper throwing deep caught first down Browns let's go Amari Cooper what did I tell you big throw and catch from 4 to2 in the clutch over the middle traffic on all ends takes the hit and holds on to the football first and 10 Cleveland now you can kind of slow down a little bit you don't want to score too quickly and gave Kansas City some time Watson looking around throwing and it is is broken up that looked like it could have been picked second down and 10 skinny Andy there's a lot of things that Madden does wrong that's one of them back in the gun from the 30 yard line drop back for Watson he will throw right sideline has a man that looks caught first down out of bounds Jerry inside the Red Zone you know what I wouldn't mind here nice run play you got the defense huffing and puffing they're on their heels shove it down their throats instead it's empty set Watson will look to pass it's incomplete see now the defense can kind of catch their breath reassess get ready little over a minute left second down under Center Deshawn three-step drop quick throw C wide open TouchDown Amari Cooper has six four plus two touchdown all by himself a complete busting C coverage no one in the same zip code of Cooper and he's in for the score let's go that's a big response now the Browns get the ball to start the second half which makes the next minute and four seconds very important get a stop go into the half down a score with the ball coming your way and before Patrick Mahomes gets a chance touch the ball again you could have this game starting all over at 14 a piece that's the beauty of the double dip the George castanza score it got to win those four minutes the 2 minutes to start the to end the first half 2 minutes to start the second half 147 we're smiling Jeremy we are smiling let's go Jeremy stall with the $2 Super Chat speak of the devil two for Coupe could you imagine if miles Garrick gets a touchdown that' be dangerous we got a scoop and score from Garrett the return that look like the greatest return I've ever seen in this game and it just gets you out to the 25 where you would have started of with and you preserve 4 seconds Lord buddy bear is here better not lose this game I hate the Chiefs buddy bear we're going to try our absolute best and hardest for you just for you first and 10 with a minute to go in the first half all three timeouts left for Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City starting at their own 26 in the gun snap to momes he's pressured finds a man but it's incomplete not on target second and 10 be great at the defense imagine even a quick stop here get the offense back out on the field get in field goal range maybe kind of eek out three points that you shouldn't have Mahomes back in the gun empty set this time snap fourman Rush throwing he has a man open first down out towards the 50 it is Maris Brown are we all sleeping on Maris Brown is he gonna put up monster numbers this year I mean considering who who his quarterback is maybe yeah I got to readjust my fancy football board first and 10 here we go boys Bo come on let's get a stop three oh Kansas City called their first time out after that one so two timeouts remaining in shotgun snap to momes he throws over the middle incomplete I mean Mahomes has been the better quarterback today but both quarterbacks have kind of I would say struggled but battled the weather conditions defense definitely needs to stop get those stops in the chat momes in the gun on his half for the 50 snap 45 seconds and counting throw Caught no incomplete broken up third and 10 good coverage by the Browns and it'll be third and 10 with 46 seconds remaining in the first half two timeouts left for Kansas City three for Cleveland big third down here span those threes let's go Man in Motion momes takes the snap has time throwing middle of the field that's not complete fourth down and now the Browns will have an opportunity to get the last say in for the first 12 minutes of this game here fourth and 10 punt coming up I mean they'll be backed up deep in their own territory but with three timeouts if they are able to pick up some yardage any part of the field as the punk goes out of bounds right around the 10 yard line if I'm if I'm Cleveland here I'm aggressive I'm not looking just to get into the half you have three timeouts you have enough time to get into field goal range you're down seven and you know you got to steal something from the Chiefs and this is an opportunity to steal a possession one that maybe you shouldn't have budgeted into the fact that you have for the first half but got to get one from Kansas City because you're likely not going to force many turnovers from Mahomes snap to Watson it's a screen caught chub running slipping out of a tackle and he only gets about four yards Browns are not going to call timeout to me that signals just waving the White Flag for the first half second and six they could let the entire play clock run out yeah that's that's damn it if they snap it oh my God what are you doing what are you going to score on this play now oh no let let Watson Pat his stats or get injured that's that's the only outcome available there first and 10 to round out the half 14-7 just shitty management there use your timeouts they don't carry over to the second half how would you grade the Browns first half I'd give them B minus I'm going C+ yeah so you scored one so that's nice you made a stop here there on defense it wasn't it wasn't bad but it wasn't good either yeah B C+ B minus there needs to be a grade in between those two like C++ C or B minus minus yeah B minus squared right so it's like listen it's not as bad as a C but it's not as good as a b that second half coming up here we go it will be Cleveland's ball to start the second half so they can still go down the field and tie the game Christopher gives him a b cool guy gives him a c American cheese giving him a c kickoff to restart the game this is not going to go well oh proven wrong a little bit I mean maybe the best Return of the season to the 27 woo making me eat crow I like it Jeremy gives him a d Ghost Face gives him a c James Harper gives him a c here we go Watson setting up for first and 10 trying to even out the score under center it's a run for chub up the gut he'll fall forward gain a four it has been tough sledding for chub the last two or three weeks I have no data to back it up other than just the eye test in my memory and I don't think chub has performed superb over that three to four we stretch going into this week second and six Watson check down this is caught first down let's go Elijah Moore moving the sticks well well well look who decided to show up time man the Buckeye we're on your clock now it's time man time let us know time man when a convenient time for you for us to start our show don't worry time in we'll wait till 5:30 next time Watson drops back he's pressured he's sacked loss of 10 second and 12 just so lucky to have time man here I'm just happy that he blessed us with his presence Watson throwing caught first down let's go big gain on second and long finding Amari Cooper yet again across the 50 they move there we go that's a good spark that's something Amari Cooper getting the Browns in business first and 10 down seven two minutes into the second half it's a handoff to chub he's looking for room to run he won't find much to gain a three second and seven you know going to Amari Cooper seems to be the the working play recently yeah he's been the number one Target today haven't seen much at all from Jerry Judy and not much from David and joku either look at all the stars teller joku Judy Cooper Watson stepping up dumping it off this is caught first down nice find by Watson and that's yet again Amari Cooper moving the sticks another first down for Cleveland from the 30 Watson lines up at Center or lines up in the shotgun takes the snap he looks he throws caught Seline first down Cooper another grab having one of the best games of of the Season trying to help the Browns comeback efforts first and 10 good guys oh the Chiefs are challenging this one well let's get another look at it they only give you like one look uh that left foot in they never let you like tell he got two feet there yeah he doesn't get his third foot in but he gets the first two this is a catch in my eyes unless they say he did not possess the ball when he had the first two feet down I think it's a catch this better be call STS or call confirm and it is indeed a catch and the Chiefs have been charged a timeout so Cleveland inside the Red Zone down seven Midway through the third quarter what's run with chop they do that exactly chub finds an open grass patch and find seven yards one of the better runs yet for 24 second and three inside the 10 yd line Deshawn back in shotgun it's another run for chub he's got some room he's got the end zone touchdown down we are tied the Browns level the score off of 5 yard Nick chub run let's go show me those TDS that's what we wanted to see baby let's go chub all even at 14 nice step arm not bringing me down now the Browns defense needs to answer the call the offense has awoken they put up 14 points in a row we are starting over at the end of the third quarter here we go defense you've been okay today I mean have forced two punts hard to ask for much more against this Chief's offense it's very creative I'll say that much oh never change actually you should change kick off to restart the game and it is wisely kneel down in the end zone for a touch back man Maris Brown five grabs for 112 yards today that's a lot of work in six-minute quarters first and 10 come on defense I would love a sack I mean turnover be great we not complain about that at all but a sack would be nice just to get the Chiefs behind schedule throw off their Rhythm throw off their timing a little bit in the gun snap it's a hand off off run is going to Pacho for a gain of just two nice stop by Jordan Hicks second and eight okay there we go that's a good start to this drive for Cleveland's defense minor game by the Chiefs back in the gun it will be a play fake Mahomes left sideline this is caught first down forward progress will move the sticks for Travis Kelce come on defense come on boys under Center run to the right PCO slips out of one tackle and takes the second for a ride picks up six yards Browns defense trying to keep their offense in this game offense has been heating up lately 14 unanswered points to end the drought shotgun formation check down is caught for a first down and more Mars Brown is not going down easily he gets across the 50 damn first and 10 I I like this from Buddy Bearer where's this guy Garrett at you can just kind of read through that message and go Max would never disappear it's a run no G on the play second and 10 and that will take us to I believe the end of the third quarter so after three quarters we are still no closer to our end than we were at our beginning we're all even at 14 a piece here let's go sub for dubs get the Good Vibes going for the fourth quarter sub for dubs baby let's go brownies on the Browns 40 second and 10 under Center moms snap run nowhere to go just a gain of three and the Chiefs have third down spam those threes let's get off the field send diet Andy Reid back to Kansas City with a loss I me this would be a huge win towards claiming a playoff spot for the Browns third and seven momes throws middle of the field caught inside the Red Zone got to be kidding me Rashid rice third down and seven and they find rasheid rice for a big gain to move the sticks first and 10 come on inside the 20 hold him to a field goal that's the plan plan has changed momes with time throwing left side this is caught in bounds gain of five under five minutes the clock will stop if the offensive player gets out of bounds buddy bear I'm not really sure what the outcome of Rashi rice is going to be it's been very quiet the last couple of weeks second and five momes throwing middle of the field caught it's a gain of five but it'll still be third and inches so the Browns do have a chance to maybe make a stop force a field goal third and Baker Mayfield spam those threes baby we need a more than ever let's go momes will pass on Third and inches End Zone got to be kidding me it's a hattrick for Travis Kelce he's not even really open like there's there's traffic all over he's hit as he catches it another Kel touchdown this time it pushes the lead to 2114 with under four to play in the fourth quarter I'll tell you my fear right now the Browns tie the game and the Chiefs go down the field and score to win it so you kind of already see that writing on the wall if the Browns do score do you go for two or do you kick the extra point um usually I'm team extra point I think that changes with the Chiefs I agree like you're two yards away from taking the lead you don't get that chance very often with that team yeah you do with the Panthers yeah exactly kick off to restart the game oh boy get your Tums out it's going to be nauseous Here Comes Watson down by seven got ourselves a close finish I don't think Madden goes for two though so yeah they don't have that killer instinct snap to Watson it's a run with chub he cuts back and he gets about four I like that you know not going to completely abandon the Run still want to keep the defense on their toes a little bit they if they want to sit back in deep zones fine we'll run up the middle second and six in the pistol snap roll out to the right quick throw caught gain of three and second and two Wyatt teller going up to his quarterback you got this you got this four third and two what do you guys want to do you want to run it or pass it I do whatever you think is the best chance of converting and not factoring the clock I like the idea of throwing it to Mario Cooper I also hate running it with Nick chub which they oh my God I was just about to say if you run it with Nick chub what I hate What teams do on Third and two is when they pitch it back or line up in shotgun why are you starting so far away from where you need to go see I would go for it in this situation if I'm the Browns you got three timeouts you only down seven I would punt it you have a good defense and they have made some stops today so that's true can they make one big stop for you but I do hate when coaches like on Third and short like you just need to go forward an inch but your first thought is let's start by going back five yards like don't just just hand it off you don't need to go back so far to go forward so little miles Garrett it' be awesome if you could make an appearance right now I think we'd all appreciate that quick throw this is caught and a gain of eight man that's like worst case scenario I'd rather they get the first down there and then you can just start from scratch again but now if they burn some clock and then get the first down it was I don't know how to describe it but like you know the worst case the the worst outcome is when they barely come up short to the first down they get the next time so they still get the first down reward and they burn more clock Ron PCO he's an idiot wow he's dumb there was not one but two times he could have just gone forward for the first down and not end the game but put it Out Of Reach almost so the Browns call a timeout third and three this is the game pretty much if they get the first down here you're not done mathematically but you put yourself in a very tough position third and three come on get a stop they run no first down first down Kansas City the Browns call a timeout they can get the ball back with maybe 15 seconds left I think I'm not even sure it might be game actually I I don't know damn it first and 10 they're going to run it and it's going to go for a gain of one timeout called so second and nine will take 45 seconds that'll take us down to a minute and that'll bring up third and let's say nine as well that will take 40 we're looking at maybe 10 seconds I think it's closer to five from the 50 second and nine another run Pacho bouncing around falling forward gain of eight third and one one and the Browns cannot stop the clock this will take us right towards the one minute mark this is the game here first down and it's over momes under Center drops back to pass swings it over oh he gets the first well that was like best case scenario there you got the chief to pass giving you at least a Lifeline of an incompletion but PCO will move the sticks and that's the ball game damn so the Chiefs come into town they knock off the 75 and one Browns that'll make them 7 six and one still looking for a playoff spot they are very much still in the thick of winning the AFC North and just a wild card spot but that will do it the final score 2114 Chiefs over the browns damn well appreciate everyone for hanging out with us for another Madden watch party we'll see you guys for our next game next week make sure to subscribe to follow along for the entire season uh that will do it for us on our Madden show and also for our live show here on the Cleveland Browns 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