Rapid Fire: Riley Leonard Gives NIL To OL, Marcus Freeman, KK Smith, Beaux Collins, Pat McAfee

guys are you ready for Rapid Fire oh baby let's go rapid fire on a Friday here we are here we are so Riley Leonard made an appearance at Dick Sporting Goods today uh right here in town it was supposed to be a solo paid nil appearance for Riley Leonard but he said hey offensive lineman come along and he let the offensive linemen take the money I guess they got you know both payment and in cash and gift cards for the appearance what do you guys think of that uh I think Riley Leonard must be doing well in the nil if he's already you know passing along giving it away passing along his gifts to the offensive line but I know he's got the one with rowack I know he's got one with new era um him and Hannah Hado I'm pretty sure are the new era Reps for Notre Dame um and so you know Ry Leonard he's gonna do just fine in the nil and I don't even think at the end of the day at matters to him right I think he is just grateful for the opportunity to be at Notre Dame he's talked before about how he's you know a man of Christ and that sort of stuff and I think that goes a long way with him too being able to play at you know a university like Notre Dame and and further you know connect or get his connection with god um and so it's just a a smart move if you're Riley Leonard because you're that's the group who's protecting you you know it's a young group and how do you get them to buy in and trust you more you say hey let's come along and and take all my free gifts um and so I think it's just it's really smart of Riley Leonard I think he's a natural leader um and that's ultimately what you need out of the quarterback position what you need out of the quarterback position specifically when you're trying to make a run like n Dame is this season the more he can build you know that trust amongst the offensive line the better they're going to be so I loved it I think it was a total pro move you know at the end of the day it's like when the quarterbacks in the NFL buy their offensive lineman nice new watches or atbs or you know whatever it might be while it's not you know a new watch or anything it's still something nice and he didn't have to do it at the end of the day this is what quarterbacks have been doing since day one you know taking them out for a steak dinner you know giving them all the credit like this is exactly what you do when you're a quarterback that's called leadership and everything Jesse said is correct and it's accurate about all his nil money and everything else but even if he wasn't making all that money this is what you do yeah 100% or you or you go and you take the money and then you take them out to eat you know what I mean like you get them involved you show them your appreciative like it's leadership I me a lot of times like the NFL quarterbacks who you hear about doing it wait until the end of the season and kind of give the you know the lineman a bonus this is perfect like early season bonus from Riley Leonard and just continue to get that buy in and all it's going to do is make those guys work harder for you at the end of the day to protect you Riley Leonard knows where his bread is buttered so good investment and pretty cool to hear him doing that taking the lineman out there so Heather denit from ESPN after last week's noted Dame win over Texas A&M posted on X that was a signature win for Marcus Freeman she said I was on the field when they lost to Ohio State last year this was another fight to the Finish but the Irish got it done this time turning point question mark so my question to you guys do you buy or sell last week's win over the Aggies as a turning point for Marcus Freeman and the Notre Dame program I I will buy it as it could be I mean if they lost this game I don't think it would be a turning point towards the negative but winning the game could be a turning point towards the positive I mean that like she's absolutely correct I mean they didn't win this game last year when they played against Ohio State now nobody's gonna say the Texas A&M is Ohio State and I totally understand that but this is the big game and it was on the road it was all of those things and we talked about it in pregame it being the most the biggest game of Marcus Freeman's career up to that point and he won it so absolutely if no if this team does what we think they have a chance to do we're all gonna look back at game one and we're going to be like that's kind of where it started man that's where it got kicked off that's where they got their confidence and I think it so I will tentatively buy it as a turning point I'm jealous Vince got to go first on this one because I was basically going to say like I will buy as a turning point if they accomplish what they're supposed to by the end of the season I I I they go out and lose to like Purdue in a week or two then you look back on you say well that game was for nothing right if they lose any game to me like but but your point is still taken yeah yeah it I I just think that you know again Notre Dame has to accomplish what they're supposed to they have to stay on track think about it you know every game uh you know game by game and not get caught up in the big picture but you know if Notre Dame goes to the playoff if they're undefeated to get that five seed you know win a home playoff game win a quarterfinal game uh and and make you know and potentially make a run for it in the semi-final game then I think everyone will look back on and say you remember that win that Marcus Freeman had at the beginning of the season and he was fired up in the tunnel that was the turning point that was a new era of Notre Dame football uh and a new chapter in the Marcus Freeman coaching career so that that to me is it it's that book is you know still to be written I guess at the end of the day no I mean it's a way because there are a lot of people who do expect Notre Dame to go undefeated now this season because they beat Texas A&M but you like when you look at it like in terms of to her point to Den's point about turning point what's the previous biggest win as Freeman had on the road in his two plus years probably Duke last year right because Duke was ranked with Riley Leonard so big difference in the you know in the environment and the amount of people there were more than twice as many probably almost three times as many people at Kyle Field last week compared to what there were for that Duke game so this is definitely the the the biggest road game he has won it's still an SEC team it is still Texas M and a good head coach and Mike Elco but it's it's the big it's it's at at a at a very minimum it is a road win over a ranked SEC team and that obviously counts for a lot of people because as we know the college football world I think you know puts a lot on those SEC programs whether they all completely deserve it or not let's talk a little bit to wide receivers fill in the blank here's what Notre Dame's wide receiver snap count looked like against Texas A&M Bo Collins 59 snaps Jaden Grouse 48 Chris Mitchell 32 Jaden Thomas 23 Jordan faon 20 Jaden Harrison nine and that means blank going forward uh to me that doesn't mean much going forward because I think that you know there there was I I figured that great house might be the guy to kind of lead in snaps overall but it felt like that they had you know more confidence in Bo Collins being that guy because of the experience that he provides right like he's played in some big games at at Clemson he's played in tough environments and not to say that great house hasn't but Collins has just done it more so I wasn't surprised by the end of the day to see Collins as the the leag kind of snap count and obviously you know great house was going to be closely behind because they've talked about how he's going to be a wide receiver that can play this slot the outside you know the the the field position no matter where it is great great house can play right um I think with Faison being hurt this also doesn't mean much as well because there's going to be a kind of reshuffling I think KK is gonna get that we'll get to that in a minute is going to get into the mix as well so you know for for game one for a game plan that was very specific to Texas A&M I don't think that we should take much um into this kind of snap count type situation I think it's going to be you know just like any offensive game plan I think it's going to be dependent on you know what the goals are for that game and what they're trying to accomplish and I think that you know Bo Collins was that guy because he had the most experience I it doesn't mean anything to me a whole lot I mean they probably you know at certain points they probably had their best blockers in the game as well you know and and I agree with Jesse I think they they trust Bo Collins a lot and I think he gave them a reason to trust them at the end of the game and so he was in the game a bunch and I think great house is still going to get a bunch of snaps he's going to be on the field a lot Chris Mitchell's going to be on the field a lot you know what I mean so you know unfortunately we're not going to get a whole lot of clarity on it over the next few weeks because the next few weeks aren't all that competitive probably uh so you know we should probably compare the snaps between like A&M Louisville Florida State like oh we will it's gonna be a thing I've decided that it's going to be a thing year because apparently people love the snap count stuff and I didn't realize it okay so so I am into the Pro Football Focus and that you know that's where I got all the numbers from so we're gonna we're gonna do some snap count stuff season we'll kind of compare you know different like are they up are they down and you know just all that kind of stuff so it' be nice when we have a couple of other data points as opposed to just one game yeah I just feel like to me it's pretty obvious that Bo Collins is the guy you said Vince who they trust the most and I think that there's some comfort with Riley Leonard and you can just see like someone someone on the beat I think it might have been Matt Freeman like during training camp tweeted some video of Bo Collins when he was a high school kid camping at Notre Dame what he looked like running his routes and just his body and the whole stuff versus what he looks like now as a grown man basically four or five years l later but like he you can just see that instinctually because of all the games that he has played in and because of the specific position that he plays you know that size with a bigger body I just feel like I feel like there's a lot of trust in Bo Collins and I just between Collins and great house the two guys with the most snaps I think that those two guys are going to end up being the volume guys in this receiver core over the course of this season where these other guys they're going to make some plays here and there that doesn't mean that they're not going to see the ball but I just really feel like Collins and great house and great house is obviously a little bit younger but he's got that big body and the versatility that Jesse talked about so I just feel like those two guys Collins and great house are going to end up being the volume reception guys for this team and that's you know it's again it's still early so we'll see exactly how it plays out but that's that's kind of the vibe I got just watching because again like so much of it comes down to trust who does the quarterback trust who does the offensive coordinator trust who does the position coach trust and I think that those two guys are definitely at the top of the list right now so as Jesse mentioned Jordan fison is going to be out this week he's got an ankle injury unfortunately that he suffered last week could be out for this week and next week we will kind of wait and see how that plays out but with him out we're going to see more of red shirt freshman KK Smith a guy that we said hey he's he could possibly get in the game versus A&M and and he ended up not getting the game but we have a lot of confidence in KK um michah Gilbert's another guy um that that I think I we'll see this week um you know we we had a plan to say okay we have six guys that we know at any point can be the starter be on the field seventh and eighth at that point was KK and Micah and you know with fa on being down KK will have a a a increased role but there's a lot of confidence from Micah Gilbert on down to to everybody in that room and uh you know we we'll see I think we'll see them on Saturday for sure I mean we're as he kind of alluded to we're we're probably pretty if the game plays out the way we expect we're going to see a lot of different guys out there but what kind of what kind of factor Vince do you think that KK Smith could be well it's so hard to say just because of the way this game is going to go I mean you know he is a Jaden Harrison type of guy right so Jaden Harrison got what 10 snaps in this game had a couple catches something along those lines I think it'll be something similar uh while the first team is out there once they start putting in the twos and stuff like that obviously I think his workload increases and and things like that and I I'm anxious to see what they do once they get the second guys in there are they still running the offense are they just running it up the mid you know all of those things and so you know he'll have an impact but I don't think it'll be huge yeah I think that the the more majority of what you'll see at of KK Smith is when the starters are out there I think he'll get you'll see him out there how much of an impact he has I don't think he gonna be super you know noticeable I I would say like he's maybe gonna have a catch or two I think the mo the most you'll see at a KK Smith is potentially when steveen jelli is quarterback and that that's assuming thinking the same thing he gets in there so I I I think that's when you you would want to see KK Smith and I think that's naturally what's going to happen as well is yeah some some nice you know quick Slants some some checkdowns uh letting KK Smith kind of operate in space with Stephen jelli at quarterback Vince's face was caught in a yawn Frozen on the screen there oh no it was hilarious whoops I tried to stop the camera close it out yeah that's right it hit me fast and hard yeah I I'll just I won't say a whole lot because I think you guys both pretty much covered it I do think that his biggest impact is like once Steve Van jelli and some of the the the twos are in there that's probably when he's going to have his most opportunities but the guy is a speedy guy so again like I was saying with Chris Mitchell earlier this is a game where Chris Mitchell's speed should really be pretty obvious and maybe some some deep opportunities there it could happen with KK Smith depending on how many early reps he gets in out there as well Mitch jeta hit three field goals last week couple of 46 yarders included what's your confidence in him after seeing that performance last week I I I mean to me your confidence has to be 10 out of 10 he's in a hostile environment pressure situations and the guy with nails and you know I love this question because I felt like we didn't nearly talk about him enough or bring him up during the week he hit some critical field goals especially when Notre Dam needed to respond to get some points on the board and again he looked like a seasoned vet out there right he didn't look like the moment was too big uh I thought he executed perfectly and you know the the the the kicking game becomes magnified in close games like that and I think that's what they're going to need you know especially as they get into maybe against you know Georgia Tech Louisville USC um into the playoffs Etc like you need a kicker that you can rely on and so right now I'm 10 out of 10 confident um he hasn't shown me otherwise um and I was really impressed with the way he was able to stay composed in that environment and hit some big kicks my confidence level in MIT Jeter going into the game was about a nine and a half and now it's 10 so wow I look I know he didn't look the greatest in practice but his ingame stats are unbelievable and I don't see how putting on a different helmet would change that so I had a lot of confidence in him being a gamer you know he he's proved it in SEC play again not that that necessarily matters because you're a kicker and right you know but the environment does the environment matters and he's been in some hostile environments before so I had a lot of confidence in him going in and he just proved me right so I appreciate that so I'm bumping into a 10 I'm just gonna be honest mine was probably a six because basically the lingering impression that I had is what we saw of him at the end of the spring and a little bit in practice and he wasn't like especially in the spring it's terrible he wasn't very accurate yeah he was just downright B and that's you know again I know that he's got a body of work and we saw all his numbers from South Carolina but it is a change of scenery and it's a different operation and the whole thing and it I personally any I just want like has this guy lost it you know like what what's what's going on but I would say it is it is definitely a right now after seeing that last week when you're able to bang a couple of 46 yarders and and go three for three and you know be able to put the game away at the end because you could say it was a meaningless field goal but it made it a two-possession game made it virtually impossible for Texas that that was far from meaningless to me because you know one thing can go wrong you can throw a pick you could fumble the ball and and you know you want to be up two possessions period end of discussion so that was far from meaningless to me I think that was the most pressure pack field goal he had in my and there were people you kind of heard it where people were like well do you do you put the field goal team out there do you risk a block and all that stuff you know like there's just as much of a risk of a block punt if that's what you're G to do instead or a fumbled Snap On Any Given snap no matter what like there's there yeah I mean there's risk on any play so I had no problem with with running the kicker out there and and doing it the way they did it especially if you have the confidence in them that we do yeah so yeah you absolutely let them kick it yeah and someone did say it it might have been on the message again be between the message boards and our our chat you know during the show the fact that Marty BAGI like he's got two new kickers this year you know Place kicker and a punter new holder new Long Snapper new short Snapper the you know they all the all the operations completely different and they were pretty sharp out there Saturday night agreed it was a good it was fun to watch so I'm I'm gonna work a punt question over under one and a half punts for James Randell against Northern Illinois I'll go over one for the starters one for the backups I think you you'll naturally get one maybe towards the end of the game and I I know Vince is going to be mad at me but I don't think the offense is going to be Immaculate and score on every Drive want them to but I don't know if it's going to happen so I I I lean more towards the side of air and I like I said kind of one for each group I think at the end of the day so give me give me the OD over I'm I'm taking the under for James Rendell but I'm gonna take the over for actual punts in the game because remember there's a 30-year-old who's probably gonna get a chance to punt in this game ah good one I didn't think about it that way sitness with the back alley Captain Mr cowens yeah goinging is going to get a punt and uh I think he's going to get a couple actually because I the second and third look I think they're going to end up with two or three quarterbacks and So eventually Northern Illinois is gonna be able to stop them and are you telling me it's gonna be CJ Carr time or Kenny minchi time I'm not saying either one it depends on how they want to do it but I think they find a way to get three on the field and I don't know that they're going to be able to lead scoring drives depending now look if Northern Illinois puts their backups in then you still have you know the differentiation of talent and Notre Dame still May score but I'm still taking the over but I just don't think it's going to be renel I just I can't see it being CJ Carr out there I just can you imagine what you know what the uh reaction is going to be if you throw CJ Carr out there and he leads a touchdown drive I'm not saying that's why you're not putting him on the field but I just don't see him going that's all we'll talk about I know Northern Illinois had a 60-yard pass play and a 60-yard run play last week against Western Illinois over under 20 yards for the longest play they will have this weekend against Notre Dame this one's tough I I'll take the over I think they might accidentally get 20 yards so I'll I'll take the over I gotta go over as well no defense is is perfect there's got to they're bound to hit some sort of yeah you know busted play Maybe trick play that they've been you know scheming up for their first drive of the season so they can maybe find some points or sorry first drive of the game not season um but I I it's just that'd be a lot to ask of a defense so I'm just gonna go over because I think naturally that's what's gonna happen I'm gonna go under I'm gonna say under at least when like the the starters are out there so maybe I'm cheating a little bit like I'm not going to rule out something to happen late in the game when you've got some second and third string guys out there but I'll say when the primaries are out there I'm going to go under 20 yards as longest play that Northern Illinois hits fill in the blank Northern Illinois refers to games against Power four teams as Boneyard games they have 18 all time what they call Boneyard wins dating back to 1983 I think it's a pretty cool concept at the end of the day right when you are a school you're not in the power four power five you got to have some external motivation so when you go into a game like Notre Dame you know they you should never think that you're gonna lose and and I think they they definitely don't think that and I think they they know that they're the underdog and their coach is going to sort of buy into that um and that's why you have something like the Boneyard type situation so you get that recognition of going in and upsetting someone because that's that's what it is Boneyard wins are just upset wins at the end of the day so I think it's a cool concept I think it's something that's fun to get the the players you know to get some of that extra motivation um at the end of the day it's freaking great uh you know when we were going around to different Max schools and stuff like that they all had some sort of something that depicted their power for wins oh and I love probably how they're like they rap themselves right oh 100% Boston College for example last year to open the season like look we can play with the big boys you know what I mean come here you get to play with the big boys you know yeah that kind of a thing and so dig it man I I think a lot of these you know power not power uh the group of five teams they're extremely creative with a lot of the things that they do and I appreciate it uh and I like it a lot creative was actually going to be the word that I was going to use very creative to like to go in this Boneyard wins because they're obviously the huskys you know so you got Boneyard and and that whole connection and you're right like anytime I do like when I'm preparing for a basketball game and you get the game notes and Notre aame is playing one of these like a Mac level school or something like that there is always part of their notes that says you know first what the current coach has done against like the group of you know five group of or or power five power four type programs and then of course you know something like this as well that dates back like what they've done all time I mean that's how they measure and I think that that's part of how they sell themselves to recruits like you can come here and we're still going to compete with the big boys and girls we'll put you on that stage and they'll be competitive yeah yep exactly Okay so we've come to the part of the show I don't know how this is gonna go I want to have the Pat McAfee conversation here because it's the three of us and I think that we're going to get some distinctly varying opinions on this do you buy or sell Pat McAfee being good for college game day and we're going to start with the chin rubber Vince Dario you just want to start with the negative guy I see where you're going with this I think that my answer is going to surprise you though I think it's actually good for game day because he has a hell of an audience people like to watch him and his Antics I I will say that I'm 5050 on on maae I I enjoy some of the stuff that he does some of it's over the top and I get annoyed but I think it's good for college game day and I think it's good for college football and just ask the Texas an& mkid who finally hit a field goal was good for him he made $50,000 yeah and they let him he got a reick too yeah and I I will say this uh I think that that segment is frakin awesome I love the field goal kicking segment because gee I wonder why well you need get kick is easy that's all I'll say people think kicking is easy and it takes a hell of a lot work to be a good kicker and I think that that's fantastic so um I actually like his show he's very upfront with the fact that he's not an expert you know that kind of stuff and you're just ruining the you're ruining this whole question like I was not expecting you to go this dire like I said 50% of the stuff he does annoys the crap out of me but I do find him entertaining at times so I think it's good for football I buy it because he brings a different he he brings a different Dynamic to that set and it's and it's something that none of them have right and I think that allows them to enjoy themselves more and bring kind of a lighter side to college football it's not all about and O's he sits right next to Sabin you know opposite exactly but guess what Nick Sabin loves the guy you know I think he is the definition of uh the fan that a lot of people have in them at the end of the day he brings out the fan and a lot of people right and I think like hearing him sing you know what was it like take me home you know West Virginia last week and then at the SEC championship last year when he starts singing One team's fight song and then you know stands on the table and completely you know changes Direction and that sort of stuff Pat macafee is authentic he's true to himself he's gonna give you the same thing every week and again I like the diversity that he brings to a set that is relatively you know outside of Lee Corso it's it's very kind of buttoned up you know this is how you're going to do things and yeah keep their shirts on that's you know like when I watched him take the shirt off it's like do we really need to see M but at the same time I was like this guy's a punter and it's like he's he puts his arm around shape know he's got no shirt on yeah that's right that's where it goes over the line for me like it is I did find it very curious the way they have that table set or the desk set up McAfee sits right in the middle like he's like the host know he's like the Center Square yeah it's like McAfee's in the middle and Savin is yeah next to him and then you got reys Davis you got Fowler and um Desmond sitting on the extreme outsides on opposite ends it's I was really struck by the fact because usually you would just put the host like reys Davis would sit in the middle then everyone else is basically an an you know like and that's kind of how you would go but they've got d Davis sitting off to the side and I mean I agree obviously with with a good chunk like I think people forget that part of the business is being able to entertain and Pat McAfee obviously entertains and he does keep that you know that that set loose he keeps Nick Sabin a little bit looser sabin's on his show during the week with him as well herb Street has said like he was getting a little bit burned out maybe as as long as he'd been on game day with just all the different stuff but when McAfee came on he's the reason that he stayed on so wow I think it's pretty cool and like you know like again he's not gonna be everybody's cup of tea but the guy was an NFL punter and I think that's important to remember the guy was a punter like how many punters go on to any kind of media career yeah you know and he has he has turned this thing he's he's you know just kind of put it all on himself and and built this little mini Empire and it's led to not only his own show being on uh ESPN every day but obviously being part of game day as well so I think it's pretty incredible just the path that he's gone on to get there I was this obviously wasn't on game day but I was I was texting you guys when they were in Ireland a couple of weeks ago in week zero and he was in that pub with Sabin sitting next to him in the pub and the man was just an animal with the Guinness he would they would bring him a glass of Guinness like a full pint of Guinness and he wasn't just you know like taking a drink or two set it down every glass they brought him was just straight down the shoot and he did six in the first hour of the show just like that straight down the shoot for what what I understand he had to step off the set for a little bit and kind of recollect himself but well they were saying too I mean if they would have let us do that on our old show back in the day Vince like I wouldn't have minded that on a Friday afternoon he just he just takes it to another level though like I like he was a he was black practically blacked out man like he was there was a guy from like a an Irish football club sitting next to him they start the interview and like five minutes into the interview he re introduces himself to the guy that was but you know what the next day uh they're doing game day and he's he's back to normal he's back to normal doing never happened the day yeah he like who knows what happened after that show was over either you can rally oh my goodness it was funny to listen to him talk about cuz he was in West Virginia the night before the uh college game day at Texas A&M and he said he got in so late he had to sleep on the bus uh waiting to get up to do college game day at Texas A&M and he said you know Texas A&M were practicing or doing their you know like rally cries or cheers the night before and he said from the bus like he could hear it it was waking him up so it's like to me the guy is an animal he's just all over the place doesn't need much rest can drink all these beers he's kind of envious of him he's like getting older and he's not slowing down by any means so all right game props let's do some player props Riley Leonard's official over under 205 a half yards and 205 and a half passing yards and one and a half touchdown passes those over over yeah over over I agree I think there's gonna be an emphasis on throwing the football I think so too I'm not I'm not entirely confident because you know again like last week skewed me a little bit but I think that he's going to get over on both of these as well his rushing yards 42 and a half is the number even if he's not running the ball a ton I I still think he could get a couple big ones right and so I don't know naturally I I think the competitor in him is gonna want to run some of these but at the end of the day I think they're gonna be like listen you don't need to run you don't need to take extra hits you know let's focus on maybe passing the ball so I I'm gonna talk myself into the under on this one well to be I agree with you Jesse but to be contrarian I'll take the over if he just breaks one run like that that's that's what I'm worried about it's just one big one yeah and that's what I'm seeing is is really all it's going to take is probably one run and he'll run past you know the 90% of yelled at and like okay I won't run anymore that's right so I've got to go over on that as well Jeremiah Love rushing yards 67 and a half over way over I think he's goingon to hit a 100 yard game I think so too I think I think there's a chance both him and price hit 100 yards I wouldn't doubt price doesn't have a number on FanDuel it was only it was only Leonard and love for the rushing receiving numbers Jaden Grouse 31 and a half over over over yep he had 26 last week Bo Collins 48 and a half I think he's gonna get his fair share too I think that's really you know three four catches and again if this offense is going into a little you know at least the first half and maybe the third quarter I'd like to say the over is well yep take it book it only thing that makes me question it is again like who they're playing and the fact that you might see some other guys get more involved in the past game whether it's Chris Mitchell or Thomas or whoever it happens to be but I'm I'm over on colins number as well the line right now as we speak Notre Dame favored by 27 and a half a and their point their point total 37 A2 Northern Illinois's po point total 7 and a half the overunderish 44 and a half so keep those numbers in mind as we do our predictions who wants to go first Jesse I'll go first because I don't think mine has been made official yet uh you two are just going to regurgitate whatever you put out in the in the article earlier that been posted are we are we out there it has been posted it is out there all right I'm gonna go Notre Dame 44 Northern Illinois Zero um I think that they're going to pitch a complete shut out um I don't think it matters defensively who is out there for Notre Dame because we said this earlier in the week they rotate so many people that they already are getting in second and third string type of guys right so I think we might potentially see some for string but those guys are going to be those are guys who could be playing for Northern Illinois at the end of the day right so I just think that nerd Dame is going to handle business I don't see them listen if they give Texas A&M's offense fits then they're going to give this offense even more fits and I I I am confident to say that Notre Dame defense kind of not handed Texas A&M some points but they had some boneheaded penalties early on that led to some points for Texas A&M and if they can clean that up defensively I don't see why nor Illinois should score in this game so I think they cover I think they take you know hit the over on their total points and I think Northern Illinois is definitely under in a 44 to zero game I just have to ask you Jesse because we talked about the odds on this yesterday plus 430 the odds for Notre Dame to get a shut out did you lay something on that yeah I have 100 on Notre Dame to cover 29 and a half and 25 on the defense to to put on a shutout wow 29 and a half is what you got I'm gonna I took an alternate spread to get like plus money on ah to get a little bit more money gotcha gotcha okay Vince your prediction I I'm taking over all of that uh because I feel like but I mean my prediction is 49 to1 and so if I'm going to say it's 49 to 10 then that's over for Northern Illinois on points it's over for Notre Dame on points it's over for the combined points and Notre Dame's covering so I have to stick true to my word right because that's what I think is going to happen so I think I think points are going to be easy to come by for Notre Dame I think the 10 you know probably comes later on in the game I I agree that this defense shouldn't let Notre Illinois score while the first team is out there but I think Notre Dame Subs in before Northern Illinois does and maybe they get a touchdown maybe they get a fi goal you know what I mean so like I think they're gonna score um but I don't think it'll be by very much so 4910 is my prediction see I still think that it's early in the season and out golden stubborn enough I don't think you're going to see no Dame backups until maybe the fourth quarter the defense you're going to see backups when Marcus Freeman says Al put the backups in that's also Fair yeah I don't think he's I don't think he's gonna try to protect the shut out and you know that that kind of thing if it's at that point but yeah like I do have 45 to1 Notre Dame winning so I am over on all those now I'm not completely even confident that Northern Illinois is actually going to score a touchdown but I feel like I just like I think this one like how this game goes is is largely going to sort of determine how I'm going to predict the next couple of games basically you know what I mean like if if Northern Illinois doesn't find the endzone and if Northern Illinoi does get shut out I think that's that's a not not quite the statement is holding A&M to 13 points but it's going to be a pretty big statement of its own so I just think a lot of guys are going to play in this game obviously and I think it's going to be a big offensive day and a turnover filled day for uh Northern Illinois and their quarterback Ethan Hampton I'm trying to see if I can find usually on FanDuel there's a winning margin and I would definitely take Notre Dame to win by like like 40 plus but I can't find it anywhere all right sorry to let everyone down that's okay well that's going to do it for this show IB countdown to kick off hit the like button um I guess you know like we just asked that you hit the like button there's nobody in the 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