Pollster Frank Luntz on Harris-Walz interview: I would've graded her a C

>> OTHER HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDING SUPPORTING FRACKING. REVERSAL FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO. JOINING US TO DIVE IN DEEPER, FRANK LUNTZ. YOU WATCHED IT. FOLLOWING YOUR TWEETS. YOUR MAIN TAKEAWAYS? >> SURPRISED QUITE FRANKLY. SET THE STAGE FOR VIEWERS. SHE IS AHEAD RIGHT NOW. SHE'S EITHER WINNING OR TIED IN KEY SWING STATES. HAD A SMALL CONVENTION BOUNCE BECAUSE MOST OF IT CAME BEFORE THE CONVENTION. I WAS NOT IMPRESSED AS AN OBSERVER AND SOMEONE EXPECTING MORE FROM HER WITH THIS MUCH TIME TO GET PREPARED, AND I WANT TO WALK THROUGH EIGHT DIFFERENT POINTS AND I'M GOING TO DO IT QUICKLY AS I CAN. FIRST, I CALL IT DOD. DAY ONE DETAIL. HOUSING CREDIT, DAY ONE FIRST HOUR, FIRST DAY, FIRST WEEK, THE FIRST MONTH AND THE FIRST YEAR. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR TO SEE WHETHER YOU'RE SERIOUS. SHE REALLY DIDN'T ITEMIZE MUCH MORE THAN TALKING POINTS. SECOND, IT'S NOT INFLATION. IT'S AFFORDABILITY. THE FACT IS, FOOD, FUEL, HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE HAS BECOME SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. SHE SAID SHE UNDERSTOOD IT BUT DIDN'T GIVE IDEAS TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE IT. THIRD, EMPHASIZED REPEATEDLY, MY VALUES HAVEN'T CHANGED. ACCUSED OF BEING A FLIP-FLOPPER. IT'S NOT VALUING. IT'S HER. PRIORITIES. THAT'S ABOUT ALL OF US. FOUR, YOU DESERVE. SHE TALKS ONCE AGAIN AS THOUGH IT WAS STILL A CONVENTION SPEECH. SHE DID NOT ITEMIZE EXACTLY WHAT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES DESERVE IN TERMS OF THEIR PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF, IN HER CASE, HER POLICIES. NUMBER FIVE, THE C WORD. TALKED ABOUT CONSENSUS, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMON GROUND. IT'S REALLY COMMON SENSE. BECAUSE VOTERS ARE NOT LOOKING FOR AN IDEOLOGICAL PRESIDENT. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN GET THINGS DONE A REAL RECORD OF RESULTS. SIX, IN HER ATTACK OF TRUMP SHE SHOULD HAVE SAID, HE PROMISED, HE FAILED, IT'S TIME TO GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE TO DO A BETTER JOB. COMPARED TRUMP'S RECORD RATHER THAN SHOTS AT HIM. NUMBER SEVEN A REAL RECORD OF RESULTS. ROR, BECAUSE IN THE END PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND NUMBER SEVEN, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR KIDS SPOKE TO YOU THE WAY DONALD TRUMP SPEAKS TO AMERICA? IT'S A SIMPLE RHETORICAL QUESTION. IT'S HER STRONGEST CRITICISM OF TRUMP, AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST NIGHT AND, FINALLY, IN A SINGLE WORD, THE WORD I'M EXPECTING HER TO SAY IN THE DEBATES, "REALLY?" HER CRITICISMS, HER ATTACKS, "REALLY?" THAT ONE WORD DEFINES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HARRIS AND TRUMP, AND SO I WOULD HAVE GRADED HER A C IN HER FIRST APPEARANCE. SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO BETTER IN THE DEBATE. >> OKAY. THERE'S A LOT THERE. I WANT TO GO ON SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED, FRANK. YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M OFF. MAYBE NOBODY CARES. WE WITNESSED ONE OF THE GREATEST POLITICAL STORIES IN AMERICAN HISTORY. PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYING, I'M IN IT TO WIN IT, I'M IN IT TO WIN IT -- I'M DROPPING OUT. NO EXPLANATION. THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THAT. DO VOTER CARE? I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF, TALKED ABOUT GETTING A PHONE CALL. BIDEN SAID I'M OUT, YOU'RE THE NOMINEE I SUPPORT YOU. SURPRISED THERE WASN'T MORE ON THE BACKGROUND. LIKE, WHO KNEW WHAT AND WHEN? ARE YOU, OR IS THAT IRRELEVANT TO VOTERS? >> SHE SAID THAT HER FIRST CONCERN WAS FOR HIM. COME ON. BE CANDID ABOUT THIS. THE PRESIDENT TELLING HER HE'S NOT SEEKING RE-ELECTION. BE CANDID AND HONEST. THIS ISN'T AUTHENTIC. YOU'RE THE VICE PRESIDENT LISTENING TO HIM TELL YOU THIS YOU KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT. YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE DEAD CENTER. YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE JOB OF A LIFETIME. IT'S BEING HANDED TO YOU. SHE THINKS OF THE PRESIDENT FIRST. A GROUP OF STUDENTS LAST NIGHT, I ASKED, TO ANY OF YOU, EVEN ONE OF YOU THOUGHT OF THE PERSON TELLING YOU THIS RATHER THAN THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON YOU PERSONALLY? SHE'S HAD AN ISSUE WITH AUTHENTICITY GOING BACK TO THE 2019 CAMPAIGN. I SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT TAKING SIDES IN THIS. AND DONALD TRUMP HAS HIS OWN ISSUES AND I WILL ADDRESS THEM ON MONDAY IF YOU HAVE ME BACK. GO THROUGH THE SAME LIST WITH HIM. SHE NEEDS TO BE AUTHENTIC. NEEDS TO BE HONEST AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF THE VICE PRESIDENT, WHY HE DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, ALL HE DID WAS DEFLECT. HE TALKED ABOUT HIS SERVICE. TALKED ABOUT HIS RECORD. DID NOT SAY, DO-OF-DID NOT LOOK THE CAMERA STRAIGHT IN THE EYES AS I AM DOING TO YOU, I GOT IT WRONG AND I APOLOGIZE. FOR EVERY CHILD WATCHING RIGHT NOW -- >> I THINK HE SAID HE MISSPOKE. THE TERM HE USED. >> HOW LONG DID HE SPEAK? >> WAS THERE -- >> HE GAVE A LONG EXPLANATION THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WERE CHARGING HIM WITH AND A SIMPLE, I MADE A MISTAKE, AND I APOLOGIZE. THAT APOLOGY -- AFRAID TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO JUMP ALL OVER THEM. LEAD IN THE NEWSPAPER, IF HE SAYS TO EVERY CHILD WATCHING ME NOW, YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OWN UP TO YOUR MISTAKES. YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO AAPOLOGIZE. EVERY PARENT LISTENING WOULD SAY, THAT'S THE GUY I WANT. >> SO, FRANK -- I SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN WISCONSIN. AND I WAS JUST THERE FOR A WEEK AND A HALF. I THINK SPENT LIKE OVER A MONTH IN WISCONSIN THIS SUMMER. OKAY? THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IF NOT "THE" MOST IMPORTANT STATE FOR THE ELECTION. WHAT I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM FRIENDS THAT MIGHT LEAN A LITTLE LEFT WEREN'T VOTING FOR BIDEN, NOT FOR TRUMP. JUST WEREN'T GOING TO VOTE. THEY COULDN'T -- DOUBLE HATERS THEY WERE CALLED. NOW THEY'RE KIND OF POKING AROUND. HARRIS SAYING -- I COULD VOTE -- YOU WELL KNOW AND WE'LL FIND OUT HOW BIG THIS IS, FRANK. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR WHOM THIS IS NOT A, WHAT'S THIS ISSUE, WHAT IT'S THAT ISSUE. IT'S I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR HARRIS BECAUSE SHE IS NOT OF TRUMP. SHE IS NOT BIDEN. >> I AGREE. THE ISSUE FOR TRUMP IS NOT TO MAKE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. THE ISSUE FOR HIM FOCUS ON POLICY. WHO DO YOU TRUST MORE ON AFFORDABILITY? WHOM DO YOU TRUST MORE ON THE BORDER? WHOM DO YOU TRUST MORE TO MAKE AMERICA SAFE AND SECURE AND ADDRESS ISSUES OF CRIME? WHEN TRUMP FOCUSES ON THE ISSUES, THAT'S HIS STRENGTH. WHEN HARRIS FOCUSES ON PERSONALITY, THAT'S HER STRENGTH, AND SHE DID SOME OF THAT, AND THAT SHE DID RELATIVELY WELL, BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS DEBATE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THEM SIDE-BY-SIDE. AND BASED ON LAST NIGHT'S PERFORMANCE, HARRIS IS GOING TO COME UP WANTING. I CAN GO THROUGH THE TRUMP ATTRIBUTES IF YOU WANT NEXT WEEK, BUT IN THE END THE VOTERS ARE COMPARING THEM. IT IS NOT A RACE IN A VACUUM, AND SHE WAS NOT, SHE DID NOT DO WHAT SHE NEEDED TO DO TO PUT THOSE CONCERNS TO REST. IN FACT, B