NFL Week 2 Is Here! | The Huddle Ep. 142

The Huddle Ep. 142 [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] la e [Music] ladies and gentlemen welcome to yet another edition of bet us TV is the Huddle live Monday through Friday at 3 pm EST where myself and the panelists Mr Richie Mr TD finto give you all of the NFL news rumors predictions you name it same place same time each and every single week smash that like button subscribe to the channel so close to 8,000 subscribers I know that we could smash that goal here within the next couple of days TD fin how you doing today man I'm doing great man um episode 142 we already got 100 people in the building on YouTube y'all hit the like button let your friends and family members know about the channel and subscribe right now to the best sport show NFL show on YouTube let's go that is the most factual statement I've ever heard all day best NFL show on YouTube hands down best audience as well Richie how you doing today man best a it's indeed baby I'm excited for this show shout out to bet us 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ended up hitting desha Watson lawyer and once again more controversy is surrounding him okay now where it stands he's not eligible to be put on the commissioner's exempt list because that said lawsuit was put right in front of the NFL it's going to give them a little bit of time to dissect it it's not completely off of the table but we will be seeing some Deshawn this upcoming week Richie thoughts on desha Watson once again catching yet another case listen man it's just like first of all disappointing that this is coming up again I mean it's an incident that happened 2020 uh so you know people are going for him people are bringing up stuff and it just goes it just still I said this years ago I said it last year I said it this offseason and I'll say it again today that contract the Browns gave him is going to go down as the worst contract ever given out in NFL history fully guaranteed bro the only quarterback contract to be fully guaranteed I don't care the amount of money it's more about it's fully guaranteed ridiculous so listen I mean desha Watson is not the same player he was in Houston and he never will become that same player again I strongly believe that and I think a big reason for it is all the stuff that's going on in his life off the field like I really think like he's broken mentally like this thing right that's happening right now this going to affect him this season again because now everyone's talking about him in the media and like it affects you like mentally he's physically talented quarterback he's athletic but how many times have we talked that the quarterback position is way more mental Than Physical you could be physically talented all you want that's why he was Elite in Houston he was playing free he didn't have any off the field issues and now he goes to Cleveland after all the stuff that he went through and now add another thing he's broken mentally he's not going to be good now this possibly depending on what happens legally with the NFL Watson could actually like the Browns could get out of this conf track if it's if if this gets to a point where it's serious by the way um I just feel like he doesn't have it the way that I look at the Sha Watson is the Browns paid him the big bucks and he's like I'm good I'm set for life financially I'm not g to even try like that's what it feel it feels like he's checked out like it doesn't feel like he's passionate about this team it doesn't feel like he is a leader it doesn't feel like he's holding anybody accountable because I feel like there's nobody that looks at Deshawn Watson that can feel like yeah you can't tell me what to do bro like I don't even I don't even care what you have to say bro you're not a good person like I don't know like it just doesn't feel good and for whatever reason the Browns can't figure out their quarterback position whether they draft one whether they bring in someone in free agency whether they trade for one um I just think that Deshawn Watson is just not a good quarterback anymore and people still try to live off of the greatness that he showed in Houston and I really think all the stuff that's been happening off the field has affected him mentally and it's still affecting him today and this is not going to help the situation at all for him mhm so there is this term that's floating around right now in the professional world it's called quiet quitting all right and if you guys are not familiar with that it's basically like where someone doesn't quit their job but they just do the bare minimum like they just do the absolute bare minimum and they just wait until the higher ups figure it out and fire them basically like they just show up they quit mentally but they're not out there and you know what I'm thinking that makes a lot of sense I'm thinking that makes a lot of sense so far from what I saw it it sucks about once again another lawsuit that is hitting the floor right now apparently this incident happened in 2020 as well but it was separate from the massage instances I've seen jokes on the internet saying that the Cleveland Browns uh like owner like gave a call to somebody like yo you need to file that right now especially after what we saw during week one uh but again this is going to be something um that he's going to have to go through TD thought on uh yet another accusation for Deshaun Watson thoughts in general go ahead uh first off um oh I'm sorry I kicked my stuff um first off I want to say um Richie's um might just be completely right um as far as um mentally you know I think um the biggest thing we know what we saw from Deshaun Watson as a player in Houston I think mentally he was affected by this entire situation now the reality is he has no one to blame but himself um because he put put himself in this situation to be viewed in such a manner um but will he ever check out of whatever's going on in his head as far as being a football player because there's two aspects to this one of them is Deshawn Watson as a football player the other is Deshawn Watson and is off the field um issues as far as what these um cases that he had alleges um the reality is I think as a football player can he Unbreak himself we don't know maybe there is a sense of I don't care because I'm paid I'm getting over $200 million no matter what and I could sell off in the sunset for the rest of my life and not worry one bit about any of this so um that's also a piece of mind but at the same token it doesn't help the Browns okay um so at the end of the day DeShaun Watson for him in his Camp he doesn't lose regardless of the situation but it's just sucks you know for football fans that this is an issue now as far as thehan Wat in the person with this new um revelation of a case from 2020 um the reality is here's the rough reality about this um no one's really going to view it as a big deal that's why the NFL is coming out no it's not eligible for the um the Commissioners exempt list they just view this as one more of the 24 in the past well it's just 25 now this person's just coming late I mean there could be 50 it's just a matter of did the 50 come forward at first or now are they gonna start staggering in so the league already handled this as almost like a class class situation thing um and and remember let's let's be clear about something here Deshawn Watson has not been held liable from a criminal standpoint in any of these why because when you look at the reports there aren't reports of you know forced Behavior year or anything like that there's a lot of I felt like I had to because I felt like I would either no longer be employed or viewed in a negative light if I didn't so there's a lot of that going on in a lot of these cases as in women that agreed to participate in the actions but felt like they were obligated to for whatever reason so that's that's um one of the main issues in all of this um surrounding the situation to begin with so with another one coming out a lot of people in the NFL I believe they're just going to add it onto the P of the past and have no consequence of it whatsoever um because it's just a matter of if they were to came out originally no one would have cared about 25 instead of 24 26 instead of 25 so it's just a timing thing and truth be told who knows anybody could come out at this point if they were involved with with him whether it's right or not we're not here to say somebody's guilty or not but at the end of the day Watson has not been held liable for any of this in the legal system he has done settlements and gotten rid of these situation but from a criminal and civil standpoint he has not been held liable he has settled all of these so that is important to remember as well when you talk about the personal code of conduct there is nothing see here in regards to the criminal system or the Civil system holding him accountable so remember that and so normally like how these things work is that like when people say oh but he's settled he's got to be guilty um we'll just say that litigation is very expensive and so I understand that he's $250 million man but say for example that he were to fight all 25 all 26 of these like this would be millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars of keeping an attorney first off retained and then also just going through the entire system but I mean regardless I just it's a sucky situation for the Cleveland Browns but you look at their depth chart right have famous jamus Winston you have Dorian Thompson R sitting there and say for example Deshawn Watson right does go on the commissioner exempt list halfway through this season okay do you still view the Cleveland Browns as a playoff team with f jamus as the QB talk to me TB uh yeah you know it just depends on the schedule too if they play a lot of weak teams they are but what we saw versus the Cowboys Deshawn Watson wasn't even the only issue he was a subcategory of the issue I'll even go out on the limit and say he was 20% of an issue that old line is looking horrible there were receivers were not getting any separation and the defense shockingly just didn't look great and that's typically the identity that them down but they were playing the Cowboys so when they play less lesser than teams with Watson or with W Watson they can win games now this team can still win games I don't think that's the issue um I think that they're gonna have a roller coaster season I think you'll have a guy like Watson that comes out this week throws for 300 yards three touchdowns and all of a sudden oh well hold on and then the next week he looks terrible again I mean that that this is what you this is the potential of what you can have over there you just don't know what you're going to get in any given week so um it'll be very interesting to see how they navigate through the system to try to make it to the postseason well they definitely have a big test against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Duvall on Sunday we will be previewing that tomorrow have no fear folks Richie are the Cleveland Browns still a playoff team with famous jamus Winston as their QB if Watson does go on the commissioner exempt list um so the question is are they a playoff team if Deshawn Watson doesn't play yes I don't think they're a playoff team if Deshawn Watson plays I don't think that has an impact I did not have the Browns making the playoffs this year so I've been consistent with that and I think their defense is great and I do think listen I think um it's overreaction week one right the Browns had a stinker week one and I don't think that they played to their standard I think their defense is going to be fine I don't think that we have to look at that game and think that it's it's going to be an absolute nightmare I still have the Browns winning like eight nine maybe 10 games I don't think they're going to just Plum it but I just don't see enough on that roster I just feel like they've been one of the more like overhyped teams which I understand why right they were five in one last year with Watson and then he gets hurt and then they have Joe flacko when comeback Player of the Year and go to the playoffs I like they deserve the hype they have one of the better defenses but like when it comes to that team offensively Amari Cooper he's good Elijah Moore bust Jerry Judy he's definitely going to add some some Talent there David njoku is injured if their offensive line can't protect a quarterback they were ranked as one of the worst pass protecting offensive lines of week one um and if their defense do not level up their game to what everybody expects them to it's goingon to be a long season for them but I'm not going to sit here and be like yeah the brown stink defense overrated I think it's week one we got I got to see more I got to see how they match up against other teams so uh but I will I I do think they will not make the playoffs this year I predicted him not to make the playoffs before the season began and I will stand on that um I just don't see enough from Deshawn Watson I really don't I don't think I think that team is good around him but I need more from Deshawn Watson in order to believe in that Squad and I just continuously say he's broken mentally and I don't know if there's anything that's going to fix him interesting interesting folks move on let us know your thoughts on the Deshawn Watson case does he have any shot of ever returning back to Houston form for a long time thought that he did but I finally accepted I don't think it's going to happen and maybe now he will turn it around since I'm finally not predicting that he is going to who knows who knows we will keep you informed that all the Deshawn Watson and Cleveland Browns new is moving up guys Joe Alt Dominated Maxx Crosby yesterday we ended up giving our MVPs all right for the entire week one there was one dude we damn missed all right he just so happens to be an offensive tackle that was drafted I think was number five number six overall break down to the damn La Chargers Jim Harbaugh did you know that Joe alz did not record a single pressure sack hurry and this is not just against some lackluster defensive end folks this was Max Crosby Joe alz for the LA Chargers made Max Crosby completely disappear Harbaugh himself a lot of people were saying that they should have went with a wide receiver super early but it sounds like what Harbaugh is doing out there is working as far as prioritizing protecting Justin Herbert and Shout out our boy Joe altz for making an absolute name for himself against the hell of a big test TD talk to me about this did did he have a chance of watching what Joe Al was doing out there in LA against the Raiders I was watching the game but wasn't even thinking about that I he never even came to my mind you know I was never like let me look on the left side to see how that rookie tackle doing you know and I think that's right side sorry and I and I think that's pretty common for most people watching football we don't really check for it we just check for if you're bad on the o line but this is good to hear him getting recognition this early that mean they have a dog on their hands that mean they have a franchise tackle on their hands and and and and let me say this too um Chargers know what they're doing like like why why would we ever doubt Harbaugh in coming in and turning his team around right away now will they have bumps in the roads absolutely but they already in my opinion have a team with a whole bunch of no names and um that can compete with anybody right now I believe because they're ground and pound they got the Pittsburgh identity they got the Baltimore identity it's just what they do they're going to run the Rock and and drafting a guy like Joe Al to lead the way they're going to make sure that on on Third and short Herbert's precise you give them protection let's get the ball um out real quick to get the first down and let's just keep on wearing teams down until the fourth quarter when they don't have anything left and we can take control and um led by the defense this this is this is hard's imprint all over this game and to hear that from Joe Alman just lowkey it's big time it's big time because you see all these other tackles out here you know Richie the Jets got a tackle on the bench backing up you know Dolphins got a tackle on the bench but we talk about a day one starter coming in contributing right away playing at that level so uh good good stuff good stuff it's great to hear it um and they got them one so we'll see how that works for the future with them see I'll tell you what so I will say this I think this Chargers organization led by Harbaugh would have been able to beat the former chargers at full health back when Staley was the head coach I love what he's doing with it love that performance from Al as we can see we have a control alt delete all right that's that's his new name baby he deleted Max Crosby off of that damn field on week one big men shout out to the offensive linemen who don't get enough love on this damn show Richie talk to me did Joe alt press you he did I actually saw some film of it on X of him matched up against Max Crosby uh it came across my feet I wasn't looking for it just happened it came on my feet and I was like oh that's that's pretty big I mean you're talking about rookie debut going up against Max Crosby Max Crosby is one of the League's best so that's definitely an intriguing sign the Chargers are trying to develop a Smashmouth team that wins in the trenches under harball and you saw it on full display in that game and if you're a rookie and your debut is against Max Crosby and you're doing what you just did that is something that Chargers fans should be very excited about because if he could do that against Max Crosby you can see you can see him do that against any other player in the league now they're still going to be growing pains I don't I'm not going to put him in All Pro status as a rookie but you talk about a debut for a rookie you can't ask for something better than that so big time shout out to Joe Al and that Chargers offensive line was Ting up holes opening up holes for JK Dobbins and Gus Edwards the entire game like that's the philosophy I don't really think Justin Herbert's going to big season uh statistically this year I think he may have his Worst season of the year of his career not because he's not playing well because the Chargers is just going to not it's not an air rated offense anymore and I don't think Herbert's going to complain because he got paid already and they're going to win right yeah so all that matters is winning football games like Herbert can finish the season with 23 touchdowns 3500 yards and they can win 11 games still you know what I mean so I think that's the identity that they're going with and Chargers fan should be excited and I mean listen we talked about it all offseason this is a cakewalk of a damn schedule for this team yeah this is cake this is a cakewalk man so they have the Panthers next week and so they have the Steelers who didn't record a touchdown week one by the way fun fact then the Chiefs obviously uh which might be closer than people think the Broncos the Cardinals the Saints the Browns the Titans the Bengals the Ravens I suppose it does get a little toward the end but um this could very easily go n and eight and don't automatically count the Chargers out on some of these big names on the schedule yeah really don't and as a Bills fan I'm gonna be pissed off if that comes to fruition where Justin Herbert where this team goes 10 and seven all right and I would say the Chargers probably have a very similar makeup of offense not a lot of weapons right but if they can win without asking Herbert to do absolutely everything that I'm gonna be like okay damn all right Sha McDermot let's take a page out of their book and not make them be Superman each and every single game because it can be done it can be done but moving on it's good things guys smash that like button for us how many people are in here how many people are in the huddle with the boys right now 384 of you right now folks and I'll tell you what I think my eyes are deceiving me because I'm only seeing 142 like button smashed right now we got to get up to 300 all right listen we know your fingers are working all right go on ahead smash that like button let's make it happen why is rich screaming right now I'm screaming hit the like button but likeing it oh so that was muted okay got it no no it wasn't muted I was just like this oh got it got it got it okay okay well it's a beautiful thing man it's a beautiful thing now listen I want to get into depth on the preview for the Patriots and the Seahawks but that's Are the Patriots About to go 2-0? going to be for tomorrow but I'm still you know fathomed like mind blown that the New England Patriots ended up beating the Cincinnati Bengals maybe I shouldn't because the you know like like with the Bengals historically start off slow but now I'm looking at the Seattle Seahawks matchup and then I'm gonna pull up their schedule week three I gotta I gotta see what's going on right now with this New England Patriots Patriots schedule who do they play after the Seahawks right now um they play the Jets never mind let me ask you this boys who plays the Jets the Patriots right yeah yeah yeah it's the pat week three um do the Patriots have a really good shot at going 2 and 0 I'm looking at the lines it's plus three and a half right now Seattle Seahawks they're welcoming the Seahawks into Fox barell was this week one win a fluke for New England or do you think that they can I don't know move forward Shock the World be two andl in the first two weeks out of the Season I'm starting off with Richie on this one listen I mean I made the mistake of counting out the Patriots and I guess I'm gonna make the mistake again I mean I don't see them winning this game I I don't I don't care if I prove him wrong again um listen the Seahawks I think are an underrated slept on team and I think they have weapons um and I I trust Gino and I trust this team more than I trust the Bengals the Bengals I don't know about you guys but you see Joe burrow with his right wrist I think that may be an issue we got to look about look up look look into he had a surgically repaired right wrist that's like if you're a quarterback is that not the worst part of your body to injure is your right wrist your throwing arm yeses uh now the Patriots are going to have to win this game by defense and running the ball but the thing that the Seahawks have is a healthy receiver room they have jsn who did not break out in week one but I think he's destined to break out I think this is a big matchup for Christian Gonzalez against DK meaf Tyler Lockett Kenneth Walker had a really good game he's dealing with an abdominal injury uh they also have you know no Fant to worry about I think this Seahawks they have a good offense now listen they beat the Broncos week one not really impressive they were they were it was a close game all all night long and I think this is going to be a close game I don't think it's going to be a blowout by any stretch I think it's going to come down to the wire the question is going to remain can the Seahawks stop the run defensively because the Patriots are a team that is built on running the football and playing good defense and limiting turnovers that's really how the Patriots are going to be modeled this season I do not expect them to score a lot of points I don't expect brette to air the ball out if you're you just got to stack the box and shut down Stephenson really because if you can a if you're able to stack the Box up and shut down mandre Stevenson then you're gonna you're gonna win the game but if that offensive line can move in the Run protection you're going to be good because that offensive line for the Patriots stinks pass protection wise but they're moving people in the Run game so that's why you have to hone in and just load up the box make your game plan shutting down Stevenson I already got my Scouting Report ahead of time for the Jets and the Patriots for week three um so I think that this is going to be a fun game I think Gino Smith has a lot to prove I mean how about the wheels he showed off how about the wheels Gino turn the clock back baby I see you Gino I'm rooting for you baby former jet so I got the Seahawks going on the road and winning a tight matchup I think it's going to be a low-scoring uh gritty game that the Seahawks pull out in the end oh my God but but don't put it past the Patriots to just be the Patriots and squeak out another upset win man I definitely could see that I I'm not r that would blow my mind out another one oh my God and our friend Kobe won't shut up well luckily they're getting killed on Thursday night next week so that's all that matters they're getting killed by the Jets after the fact folks book it book it all right TD talk to me talk to me Patriots have a good shot of going two and up no they don't um I mean they have a shot but it ain't a good one um the Seattle Seahawks are just a better team overall I could see in this you know the quarterback position the the Seahawks have the advantage but at the same token it ain't Crazy by far in my opinion and Gino Smith I like what I saw from him last week getting out running using his legs but this the Patriots defense they'll probably have a contain game on that and so much more the difference in this game is the wide receiver core that's where the difference in this game is going to come in my opinion I just feel like the Patriots don't have enough at the position to actually have effective offense and I think with Tyler Lockett and Company they'll do just enough to have the edge to make enough plays to get Seattle in field goal range a lot to at least start putting up points in the game uh that's where it's going to come down to I know that the Seahawks defense is in teror isn't bad but at the same token the Patriots offense isn't great either and the Patriots defense is good but the Seahawks offense is a little better I just give the Seahawks a slight Edge in this one to will out the victory because they'll make more big plays than the Patriots because R Andre Stevenson is on the mission I mean just running the ball like crazy good but that's not act like Walker the third ain't doing the same thing I mean he's doing the exact same thing pretty much um five yards per carry just like ra Andre so um yeah see um but now he is questionable if he doesn't play that's a whole different let me tell you if Walker doesn't play the Patriots could win this game but I believe he'll play and I think he'll be just fine and um we'll see from there man I think they good think they're good think they're good I have the Patriots at very least covering at three and a half I really really do I think that they will cover ah I don't know I don't know man we we shall see all right folks moving on we heard some injury news Dolphins Running Back Injuries particularly from the Miami Dolphins as they gear up to play the Buffalo Bills tomorrow evening Raheem moart is now out and Devon Chan um is questionable going into it TD I wanted to get your thoughts and reactions and here's my thing and so right before you take the floor with the production from Wilson and so that rookie that you have in my opinion I don't think there's a reason to start like hm especially when you consider his injury history last year when he was out for a couple of games a handful of games last year if there's something wrong with his ankle and that's what I have been reading would you want him to go out there and like not play at 100% or like what are your thoughts on this just let's dive into this injury report for Miami go ahead yeah I I would want a chane to be out there if you're healthy enough to go like if you're at 90% yeah I want him out there uh Jaylen Wy is a rookie he's going to get an opportunity to potentially shine in this I'm sure they'll move Jeff Wilson and um he'll be in the game as well um but it was very interesting last week they went with Jeff Wilson Jeff Wilson kind of got the nod so just remember um aain May probably go but Jeff Wilson is probably gonna be the primary guy and then Jaylen Wright's gonna get some touches now if they decide to shelf a chain which is a viable possibility as well it's still no guarantee he'll play then it's the Jeff Wilson and Jaylen Wright show and let me tell you this too the Dolphins have no excuse regardless we got four good running backs between rahee moer de chain jayen Wright and Jeff Wilson we got four different running good running backs and Jaylen Wright is supposed to be the star what we saw in um training camp and things he was really shining he was making some plays he was showing you his skill level so this is just an opportunity for him to get the same opportunity a chain got last year where you're the young guy come in show up show out and show people that you're worth it and that you can play the running back position in the league so we'll see what we get there now the bigger question is if the old Line's going to hold up and run blocking this should be a great run blocking team but we've been better at pass blocking than run blocking um if you look at our PFF grades it's actually a shocker you know four of those guys on our old line did exceptionally well you know four out of the five starters actually play very well and we're used to them being down with low grades but four out of the five actually play very well all right so we'll see what that turns out to be against Buffalo but I'm not concerned about the running back position everybody else can be but I'm not I like Jaylen Wright and Jeff Wilson he's very effective as well we can survive without both aain and moster would you like to have them absolutely but this isn't a panic moment for the Dolphins that's why we have four good backs what do you think Richie so if you were the Miami Dolphins and so you had a Devon hen right who has an ankle injury has the injury history in the past he's coming off of short rests would you throw him out there on Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills unless he's 100% I mean it's too early in the season to risk further injury for me look look at it this way the Miami Dolphins are built like the 49ers from a offensive standpoint Christian mcaffrey goes down Mason goes in there and looks like mcaffrey I think the Dolphins injuries to moster and a chain isn't GNA affect much like I really don't like that's why like when everyone Hypes up a chain for the from the Dolphins fan base they have a right to do it but like this isn't a knock on the individual talents of most certain a chain it's more about the praise of the system and the coaching of McDaniels that it's a it doesn't matter who you put out there they're going to produ they're going to produce and I have all the confidence in the world in Wright and Wilson to get the job done it's a scheme out there that's like like you can just get plugged in if you're an NFL quality running back that can fit that system you're going to thrive so I would I would not risk it with a chain if he's not 100% in a short week you know you want to live for another down I don't think a chain is going to be the difference in this game I think Jeff Wilson and Wright can get the job done for them so um the Dolphins have an interesting situation like they don't have that one Superstar back that can like take all the carries they're more of a running back by committee approach they have speed everywhere they're going to give you moster they're going to give you a they're going to sprinkle in Wilson uh so I think that's what makes them dangerous so I really don't think this going to be that big of an impact on the Dolphins game plan I think they're going to still roll with uh the guys who they got next man up mentality I know that moster you know had 20 plus touchdowns last year and I think I know that a chain showed a lot of Promise in his limited time as a rookie but this is what I was telling you guys about a chain man he's a he's got to be able to stay healthy he did not stay healthy last year he's not built to sustain like that's why when the whole debate between Bree Hall and aain like the difference is Bree is built to be able to like handle a workload like that where a chain hasn't been able to be proven that and I think that now he's hurt right now I would sit him like put him on ice this is a long season no reason to go out there and risk further injury I think the Dolphins can still have a productive day running the football even without moer and a chain uh but what is most's injury TD is it serious I he's out well is out for how long like what is it I think it's just this week I think he'll be fine I think it's just this week they both now remember it's not just him a CH banged up too um in that game we sustained a lot of little knickknacks um throughout the roster but he'll be fine next week remember we got 10 days before we go to Seattle so these guys will be ready for week three so and one may even beg to add to that maybe you should rest a chain to make sure that you got your full plethora going to Seattle on the road yeah yeah I do have some uh some news Ja'Marr Chase Contract Update and other news Dan you don't mind go ahead uh an update for the Jamar Jamar Chase situation the contract oh wow talk to us my dog oh man did I lose it uh so I saw a report come on my feed just now that apparently the Bengals offered him a contract that is four years $140 million 90 million guaranteed and he declined it what wait four years what 140 4 90 mil guaranteed 35 Mill a year and he declined it with 30 with 90 guaranteed man he wants he he won a $150 million contract he wants to he wants to just hold on you know what I think he probably asking for he dude all right listen you know what he asking for probably Richie he probably wants 100% guaranteed contract so Bengals extension talks with Jamar Chase broke down over for one key detail the two sides were close to an agreement and then it did not come through the Bengals had intense contract talks with star receiver Jamar Chase but the two sides did not agree on a long-term deal before Sunday's regular season opener against the Patriots blah blah blah so the two sides were close to an agreement the Bengals offered chase a 4-year one40 million contract with 90 million guaranteed that guaranteed money included a $30 million signing bonus those raw numbers work for Chase's Camp the loan snag in the agreement had to do with when guarantees would kick in Chase was willing to sign a four-year extension that would have put him under contract through the 2029 season sources say his Camp wanted the guaranteed money and injury protections to kick in earlier in the deal that's when talks broke down yeah so what that means is basically the qualifiers you know how you have a um a a guaranteed amount and then a fully guaranteed amount so what happens a lot of times is you have to be on a roster by 2026 for your 2028 to be guaranteed so sometimes players are like no I want that guarantee sooner if I'm on the roster by 2025 I want my 27 guaranteed so um that's probably where the sticking point was they were closer to the um expiration dates of the contract and they wanted to qualify sooner very interesting and so I have the Justin Jefferson's contract in front of me and he got four years 140 million but his guaranteed money was 110 and is that the fully guarantee or just the guarantee I'm just seeing guarantees I'm not sure what's fully I could pull up spot track right now yeah P it'll show you on spot track I mean this entire situation like I never root for players to fail it takes a lot for me to root for a player to fail but Jamar Chase is teetering on that line for me right now he is teetering on that line for me I mean first off it's all of this contract nonsense and then of course he's throwing his head co under the bus publicly like do you want this dude in your locker room like do you want him in your locker room I understand that he's a great wide receiver I mean he's top three in the league let's be completely honest with ourselves I'd probably put him right behind CD lamb but I mean come on dude like he's been all right listen man he has only been in the league for three years he's going through this huge contract Fiasco he's thrown his head coach under the bus he'll probably end up getting his deal he'll probably end up getting his deal I just hope it doesn't come and bite the Bengals in the ARs that is you hope you hope it doesn't are you sure you hope it doesn't I mean listen I have no beef with the Bengals bro I don't know where that's coming from and so did I smile and so did I smile a little bit uh uh when I saw that Joe burrow looked like trash when T Higgins wasn't out there absolutely and did I run a Victory lap absolutely but at the end of the day is what it is is what it is is um this is a beautiful thing all right speaking of injuries speaking of injuries folks Josh Allen the quarterback as many of you Josh Allen's Hand Injury guys know on week one when he ended up hurdling Buddha Baker in Arizona he ended up landing on his hand his elbow right in the middle um of his hand by himself right and in practice he's full to go he's set he's ready to go but in practice he was noticing wearing a glove where his middle finger and his ring finger were taped together which was suggesting it could potentially be a sprain or it could even be a fracture the Buffalo Bills are known for postponing surgeries this surgery if it is what people are asking about um would be like a 3 to four week recovery time prior to when he ends up coming back I am crossing my fingers and I am hoping that this is just a spray and he's going to tough it out and here's the thing here's my concern about Thursday Night Football some people are talking about oh it's going to affect the way that he hand the football off that's not my concern at all what my concern is is that say for example he's scrambling outside of the pocket or say for example that he's trying to make a play or he gets sacked for example and he lands on that left hand and breaks it or something along those lines or like further aggravates it I'm gonna have an anxiety filled evening during that and it's not because I'm not confident about my Buffalo Bills team that is the complete opposite of what I'm talking talking about but I am absolutely terrified that Josh Allen's going to go out there and uh like re-aggravate that injury as far as we know it's just the sprain uh but I am praying that it is a fracture but like you guys don't think that this team would risk it right like from an objective standpoint so do you think that this team would risk Josh going out there with a fracture right so we don't know if it's a fracture so what's the diagnosis they didn't tell us which makes it even fishier right so like after the game so after the game he got x-rays and normally they tell you exactly what it is immediately then the next day he ended up getting an MRI but then the next thing we heard was he's a full go and so Josh is telling us that it's feeling fine he's saying that he's wearing a glove a lot of the medical experts that are out in the field are suggesting that his middle finger and his ring finger are taped together with a glove they think there's a plate right under this which is sugesting that it's some sort of ligament damage is spraying Etc so I'm not sure if they're not telling us something did they did he injure it when he uh did this hurdle into the end zone when did he hurt it yeah yeah when he did the hurdle in the end zone listen man um oh the baby needs a Bandy the baby the baby needs a b oh my my wrist my wrist is oh no I look it's a little red I need a little bandaid hey that's all I'm hearing Dan Mitchell and the man is fine you just trying to prop yourself to make excuses because y'all about to take a l call it what it is then Mitchell come on camera man up and tell the people you scared scared in the comment section it's his left hand fool it's not his right hand he's it all over that secondary like talking about yo you worry he can't stiff arm anymore cuz the baby need a b the baby need oh we about to give it to Josh Al it does not it does not matter baby listen we had 128 rush yards go up against the Miami Dolphins last week with bum Travis etan imagine what there ain't no way you could get out of this you made it a topic on the show so don't sit here and say you don't care okay the no listen man I'm concerned that my quarterback is gonna further aggravated I know that he's going to win against the Miami but at what concerned my quarterback need a bigger band list nobody better touch listen nobody better touch my quarterback's left hand at all Christian Wilkins ain't here no more so you ain't got to worry about that okay but but listen listen Josh Allen is a non-throwing hand he can still go out and play the position now it could get reagg graved if he's going to be ground and pound if he's gonna be taking on hits and trying to stiff arm people it could be reag gravate at the end of the day I don't have any concern about this because they'll wrap it up tightly and he'll still actually be able to to use it even if it's punching instead of stiffing um this is a yeah this is a nonissue for me um I mean it could be fractured and he could be a goal it's the non-throwing arm so at the end of the day man this is not even a big deal for me I think Josh Allen is gonna come play his best football and we gonna see how the game ends up but you know at the end of the day let's just be honest here uh Buffalo Bills fans all around the world are Terri terrified of the result of this game because they know this is the season in week two this is it right here feel like that you guys have ai approve than we do who terrified Richie you soet coming off of a lost in Buffalo think can all agree that when it comes down into needing this win more it is a th% the Dolphins in your fan base 100% that's my point my point is the pressures on the Dolphins not the bill to win this game that's my point I actually agree with you we needed more but the point of the matter is we're going to get it and it's going to hurt you more it's going to hurt you more at the end of the day D but you're nervous because of the pressure is on you I a nervous you buffalo buffalo ain't good no more they no longer good they done lost Diggs Diggs over there in Houston loving on his quarterback now having great connection great chemistry scoring touchdowns then all on Miami in game man because you're home that's the reason if Buffalo is home the pressure I think for a divisional game when you're home you have to win that game and no listen let's talk about this as well like let's not pretend that that stadium is going to be 65% Bills fans stop it D we we don't fix that problem people a selling out know it's gonna be 65% Bills fans people a selling out stop anyway all right Richie thoughts I really didn't hear your thought about this should I be worried about this whole hand situation talk to me yeah the baby bu the Buffalo Bills is Josh Allen I mean without I mean let's let's just be honest with yourself a little injury like this it's going to raise some anxiety it's going to raise some things I mean let's be honest with ourselves without Josh Allen we know what the Buffalo Bills would be and you could say that a r b had a lot of quarterbacks but Josh Allen you can argue is very very dependent um well the bills are very dependent on Josh Allen to reel them to Victory he's a baller he can make plays with his legs his arm you know the fact that his off hand is definitely good if it was a throwing hand that'd be way more concerning uh so I think that the re aggravation is a sketchy thing but at the same time I think that the Buffalo Bills uh need Josh Allen healthy all 17 games you have a chance to make the playoffs because and he needs to be 100% so he's going to be playing it sounds fishy but this is the Dolphins game that they have to take advantage you got a A Josh Allen that's coming off an injury you are home coming off a big win at home uh comeback win so I think that this is the Buffalo Bills uh chance to try to remind everybody that this is their division and it's the Miami Dolphins chance to prove to everybody that this is our division to take until the Jets get hot by the way stop it absolutely absolutely folks last topic right before we end up sending these beautiful people off the Green Bay Can Green Bay survive? Packers man hate to see Jordan love go down like he did last week all right but now you have Malik Willis as the QB they're saying that Jordan love is going to be out three four weeks maybe even more who knows at this point I just saw an update saying that Jordan love did not practice obviously who's running that account and they will remain nameless but here's my thing is the Green Bay Packers season over with is the Green Bay Packers season over with since Malik Willis is now going to be um their Only Hope because I think we can all agree that this Green Bay Packers defense has a hell of a lot of holes and secondary and pass rush that defense is not going to win them games it is entirely going to be on Malik Willis who I do not see winning a single matchup until Jordan love does return and take the snaps back can Green Bay survive I want to talk to TD on this one yeah they could survive but it's it's really gonna come down to a matter of how many games is it going to be how many games can um will will they be without um um Jordan love now here's the deal they're okay with going with Malik Willis they're about to lose games I mean it's it's that simple we don't have to Sugar coded they're about to um lose games here's here's what I will say they have a chance of being competitive on the back end with their quarterback but they're SK with Jordan love coming back but the schedule is not favorable man if you want to go look at a team schedule the Green Bay Packers actually play some of the best teams in the league like you know from mid teams all the way to good the Green Bay Packers play a lot of them uh here's what I would say if you ever wanted your quarterback to be injured you wanted that to be now because there's some winnable games versus the Colts versus the Tennessee Titans versus the Minnesota Vikings you know that's three weeks in a row that you have right there front of you of winnable games if Jordan love was in you would bet on them to go three and 0 Malik Willis can he do two- one you know because one and two or or and three you just screwed up the season and large because the back end of your schedule I mean look at the rest of their schedule they got the Rams the Texans the Lions the Jags San Francisco Chicago twice you know the Lions again the Dolphins Seattle Saints man they got it tough so you need wins in these next three weeks that that Jordan loves out and that's why I don't understand why they didn't go look for a veteran quarterback that would give you a better chance to win Malik Willis came in the other night didn't even throw the hell Mary did and then the pass before that literally threw a Bullet To The Ground like that is just showing you off rip the indication of what you're going to get so Green Bay wouldn't have anybody to blame but themselves if they the playoffs when I believe they could still make the playoffs if they bring in a average Quarterback that can try to steer the ship and get you more wins and losses while love is out so what you got on this Richie yeah I mean listen Malik Willis is just I mean I feel like what makes the Packers so good is Jordan Love's ability to be great you know Reed looks Dynamic but I don't know if I trust the Packers with Malik Willis I think that they could be good throughout this regular season and make still make the playoffs as a wild card team because let's not forget they made it in last year like nine and eight or something um the NFC is an interesting conference this year they got the Colts at home and then they're in Tennessee and then they got the Vikings so these next three games you can argue are winnable like TD said can they go one- two or can they go two and one so it's going to be an interesting I don't know man Josh Jacobs looked a little washed in week one so he's got to get going their run game really determines their success for me uh their defense was not really great against Philadelphia and it's just so it's so upsetting because Jordan love really is a fun quarterback for me to watch and I hate that he's hurt to be honest he's also my fantasy QB it's all good though I got Baker Mayfield in there now MVP uh so I don't know I think they'll be good I think they can survive with middle Le Willis I think they'll win at least a game of the next three which will bring them to what two and three or one and three and ah it's going to be tough but I do believe that they will be able to survive ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for tuning in to yet another edition of bet us TV is the Huddle guys we are live Monday through Friday at 3 P.M EST and tomorrow obviously we are going to be previewing the vast majority of the week 2 games with the main topic of course being Buffalo Bills versus Miami Dolphins full-fledged preview it's going to be big one and you are not going to want to miss that one TD any final thoughts before we send these guys up uh yeah man just great times week one football is in the books officially 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