🔴 LIVE ❗️ The PS5 Pro is HOW MUCH?! PlayStation Tech Reaction & Discussion

e he I think we're all good to go that's not all right awesome all right we're just going to watch some God of War stuff in until this actual live stream technical thing starts cuz it's not for another 15 minutes or first the page right now there we go I don't care about whatever people are saying there yeah we got another 14 minutes so that means we can watch some God War who are you can I come in he hello Governor what up sniper what's going on man I have me I have me well you would not find me close to me right I'm sure we'll find lots to talk about you say that Thor what's going to happen guys I know this game's already almost two years old but still what's going to happen which by the way God of War Ragnarok comes out in PC in like a week probably going to buy it I already have it on PS5 I already platinumed it I don't care it's a great game I'll support it the Ravens oh my God what could those mean nice place please God just I love this game I want to play it again I'm going to wait for the PC version like I said we got about 13 minutes until this uh until the tech PlayStation preview thing happens so luckily it's short it's only 9 minutes so not too shabby not too shabby look at a Trey she's just like holding his cuffs he's just like I'm backing up oh I know sniper I know man I know that just shows how great of a game it is though cuz it feels like it was only yesterday but uh twitch uh SEO man thank you so much for the follow much appreciated you could have told me before I poured what a was why are you here just being polite being polite I love this God I I wish I could erase my memory of this game and watch this two years ago it was so good ah we actually have a an an analyzing video on the channel where we just looked over the intro like God this is an introduction to a game are you are you calm and reasonable calm and reasonable person the moment calls for calm calm I'd say the moment calls for calm yeah on before before the PlayStation thing is I want to make a uh poll that people go to the link cuz we're both YouTube and for to see what people how how much do people think this uh PS5 Pro is going to cost there it is I'll pause this for a second here we go hope I have to make an account or anything create a pole here we go okay how much will the PS5 Pro costs uh dollars multiple choice uh I'm going to say let's go let's go 500 like if like if we're going to be super optimistic and be like yeah it's going to drop the normal PlayStation 5 price down to 500 then I'm going to say uh let's go 550 to 600 then I'm going to say 600 uh 650 oops if I can even type 650 and then the final one will be uh 700 700 plus I have a feeling it probably could um doesn't require that one voter per I yeah block VPN users whatever it's fine uh create the poll and I'll post I'm going to post it here in the chat in a second just hang on your admin rights are only temporary claim your permit admin RS by correcting a free account fine whatever all right um oh crap I made it on the wrong computer ah fine watch This I Gotta make it on my streaming PC give me a second got 10 minutes we got plenty of time you know who I am who I am right before winter set in there were some understandings that's understatement regretable ones but I think we all have a better idea of who we're dealing with now what you did to his boys self-defense dying is what we here live for and let's be honest they were kind of useless but Baler he had value he was my best tracker my closer yeah his mind was gone sure but he had his uses and now he's gone because of you follow me all right you have a debt you're no fun anymore you're no fun anymore all right what do you want go ahead and uh vote in the poll vote in the poll how much do you think the PlayStation 5 uh Pro is going to cost I want I I want to see what people think how does peace strike I personally think it's going to be 700 War how about we just don't kill each other how about you stay home pick up your feet seek no quarrel so I've got I've got it up I've got live results that I can show here in a minute so of course it means that that one that one has to stop his Sur F I think it's going to be 700 I personally think it's going to be 700 but again cck the link click the link in the live chat right now whether you're on Twitch or YouTube and uh let me know let me know and then that's it then we're Square [ __ ] I'll even sweeten the deal I'll let you keep the prisoner that I know you stole that's right I know you're in here somewhere you silver tongue little [ __ ] why should we believe it what you what of your the way they made Odin in this game it was masterful it is it was great abely loved it if he tells you snow is white he's lying what kind of wisdom is that can't the smartest head alive past himself see that we all want the same thing all right here's a deal I know you can trust I'll settle your debt with my ex pretty good deal not going to lie keep Rea off your back keep your boy safe it's really all you want isn't it what do you say trus is like what the f do you take me for man come on no don't take all day about time about time I've been waiting for this you're not from here we got a tradition called blood payments it means I get a piece of you from what you took from my family you'll pick it up that was for Boulder now show me this God killer I've heard so much about God just goes right into it goes right into the fight ah you can't beat it I did not seek that fight with your brother I don't care brother oh yeah that was his brother oh there was technically his brother yeah yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah okay I thought he was talking about Modi for a second I was was like no no no cuz we killed his sons technically so how were you ever a God of War you're [ __ ] hope you spit on my son's memories I can't believe they lost to you call the axe the ghost of SM of thing I love this part capable of show me oh he's showing you all right now we we got we got four minutes left all right I want to skip ahead real quick just to the uh honestly the best part of this entire fight it's like the middle of the fight it's not even the end of the fight there we go you been talking uh uh where they throw the axes or they throw their weapons I can find it that's where he raises you up yeah yeah I already know that yeah here it is love this part absolutely love this part yeah laugh first time you ever saw that that was like the [ __ ] you say m saw that in fear of you he died of the wounds you and because we've got less than three minutes this is honestly a really cool part lesser version of you but I am not my sons and your boy all father has plans for him to mention the music man ah it's so good there he is there's the God of War there's the God of War all right and with that we got three minutes for this thing let's refresh it don't care about the live chat there here we go guessing you're only at 10 8 oh you're at 1440 okay volume's there all right last chance guys last chance vote in the poll vote in the poll right now uh on the link if the Link's not there if it's moved away if you just joined us let me know I'll repost it I'll just refresh it but uh let us know let us know uh this could get good this is going to get good I think be interesting at least at the very least it'll be very interesting don't have any kind of music going with it but I guess again it's it is a technical presentation so why still the music Yello yo what up man it's PS5 Pro time ton I know and uh you should vot you should you should let me know right now how much I wonder the big question I'm asking the entire chat right now how much do you think this game this console is going to cost what do you think the price I don't I I hope it's not g to be that much more I'm gonna hope it's at least like at the very most like an extra hundred but I I don't want that to be the case but to be fair I can't remember how PS4 Pro was I I can't remember I got that later yeah I got so for those for those of you who don't remember uh PS4 so the PS4 originally was $400 right okay um when the pro was released like if it was announced and it was released when it was released that became the $400 it might have been like 420 after taxes or whatever um but then the base PS4 dropped down to 300 or may it might have been 350 at first but then dropped down to 300 so again it did your typical console thing over the years where the prices drop eventually right like even before the pro version came out I think it went down 50 bucks or something like that or maybe 20 or 30 but regardless we've always seen technology prices go down but ever since 2020 this is with PC parts this is with consoles prices have gone up and not down so I'm going to be a little bit more on the cynical side as some people might say I think I think it's gonna be 700 I think it's going to be 7 oh my God no way I think it's going to be 700 I think it's going to be 700 yep I think it's going oh my gosh I don't know we'll about to see 40 seconds yeah well it depends if they even show us the price because this is a 9 Minute Tech talk yeah right that's true that's true that's something they might just drop afterwards as like a PS blog like you guys don't be surprised if you see this like in a Playstation blog post that's that's something that they might drop there but who knows unless they're proud of the price unless they're proud to be like hey same price you know they they might just they could do that too who knows they throw in I'll even have that there yeah I say they've even thrown I think prices before like with well when it was first launched so they have but again this is what it's it's weird cuz this is a technical presentation like if it was a state of play yeah oh yeah then i' 100% expect it right I saw people I saw people talking about like what games we're going to see I'm like yo I think we're to I don't think we're going to see we you'll see them Tech demo a game or something I don't know if there's a way to show it they or show or show God of War at you know 4K 60 or something like that on the console okay here we go I'm Mark all right I'm excited to I'm shut up I'm up addition to our console lineup PlayStation 5 Pro and how it advances gaming technology but first I want to take just a minute to look at what we put in the original PlayStation 5 and how it delivers okay going talk about it lemon it's going to be $650 and $50 for the disc drive the disc drive right now is $70 when PS5 debuted in 2020 it brought a lot to the table 82 CPU this very technical yeah this is going to be technical so guys don't expect new game announcements or anything going be super [ __ ] technical hundreds which I'm all for I actually like the technical stuff and frame rates that can be as high as 120 frames a second you never hit the 120 frames PS5 has a powerful Rd GPU which can render anything from intricate details to Fantastic world panoramas to explore R tracing allows for the big the big thing including Reflections off of water or glass and the realism that comes I I hate how rra become this big marketing thing in reality it kills performance between they got they have so many like options with it though it's like R tracing in like I don't know like 10 I don't ways to like alter it Spider-Man's the only game Spider-Man 2 is the only game that's done at right where they were able to work some magic but that's just Insomniac Insomniac work sense of imersion to the sound of the games yeah a lot of a lot of uh devs have used it really well enemies but your third part things in your games that go multiple places have not finally the Dual sense controller hasps that you I'm so I'm sad my first my first controller ever has stick drift it sucks it's wonderful to see prices increase for the controllers experences creators have made amazing use of the hardware capabilities but when I talk to them I do hear about their desire for more graphics performance more performance Graphics have about Mark man we need their performance not the graph familiars mod it can be a difficult choice for players Fidelity modes emphasize the visuals typically through higher resolution rendering these modes might also have enhanc I could imagine people like reacting to this being like what is this what am I watching like even though it literally says in the title technical I know it's said technical yeah it did say technical performance mod you can see in the chat on YouTube it says like hurry up I know that's what saying guys it's 9 Minutes like he's he's building up man he's building up for whatever the hell the last two minutes will be of the actual PS5 Pro yeah what what I'm seeing is he's basically telling us hey we're we're getting 60 FPS with the full 4K I think that's what I saw yeah expect a lot ofes with some of the the current games that are out right now frame the players prefer to do that PS5 Pro substantially improves over PlayStation 5 in three ways the big three God why did you have to St ADV much larger and increase the speed of the memory it uses the result okay I like that I like numbers F second we made major upgrades to the ray tracing taking a streamlined and accelerated approach that allows calculation of the Rays at Double or even play big deal and finally we added custom hardware for machine learning and an AI library or pssr for short yeah exactly boy more raxel and can add an extraordinary amount of detail sounds effective resolution of the games game creators are adding PS5 Pro support to new and existing titles and with the big three involved the results can be pretty amazing with graphic showing something like Fidelity levels of detail but it the actual gameplay here's the Last of Us Part two running on PS5 oh yes it show it to me Bobby just wet himself a Fidelity let's compare this to the Fidelity mode on PS5 which is only running this is going to be so much better to tell when you're actually like playing so anybody who's just like I can't tell like yeah you really won't really notice until you're actually playing performance frame has been achieved for a broad set of times including Marvel Spider-Man Spider-Man's harder because Spider-Man actually did really well with its uh and Ratchet and Clank so so it rack it but I mean you can still see it you can see it yeah I can see it yeah you can notice it another way to compare the two consoles is to look at PS5 Pro versus performance mode on PS5 both of which Target 60 frames per second what we see here is a difference in detail PS5 Pro is much sharper and crisper dude yeah tell my stream bro I this has to I have to go back and watch this not as a streams oh yeah when it's when it's when when this is like fully done yeah I have to go back and watch this I'm going to set it up on 1440 on my big monitor yeah I've got a 1440 right now but I again YouTube compression and all that so oh yeah you could I mean you could see through YouTube compression on a stream a huge difference wildre sharp to the graphics or this is what the original PS5 should have been this is the big three showing hey man make they had to make a pro T at some point they had to some of Stu for pro man to make some extra money the only thing different from dog years is Tech years where four years is like 35 years and everything else especially effective for Horizon forbidden West apart from the detail boost that extra Graphics power is allow for improvements to lighting and visual effects as well as such a good looking game oh this game definitely still holds up I mean you play it on PC right now it's crazy rate tracing is finding broad usage as well particularly when the games are focused on higher frame rates the faster hardware and PS5 Pro can make a real difference allowing gr Turismo 7 to add I know it will never happen but I really wish some developer would be come out and be like you guys complain about performance and everything tell them to stop using R tracing stop right there i' be like it's not happening man I know I never would got we got to see those Reflections it's the newest thing man well the thing about R tracing is devs like it because while it kills performance it makes their job so much easier that's why they want it I hope you enjoyed this in R tracing they just go hey we're setting the light up and then the simulations do all the lighting work for us oh by by that regard yeah okay that makes more sense let me wrap this up by giving you a quick look at number of I'm going to say quiet here number of games oh here we go oh here we go [Music] baby the three lines three lines something about that three lines makes it stick out man I want to see price don't me hang oh good she'll rebirth oh rebirth definitely some I can't wait to play this on PC OH Close Your I want to see price though give me the price I I'm thinking I'm thinking 600 I think seven seven with the disc drive 650 without H Allen wake is such a good game oh yeah I might actually play Allen wake on a console like Shima as you should that's Shadows I this is not a PS5 Pro yeah man this is this is 100% PS5 Pro you can tell the difference right yeah by trailer footage I love seeing the chat oh I turn any live chats off I'm just [Music] not I have no idea what some of these games at the end are price oh my God they dropped the price it is 700 my god wow I called it wow oh they actually dropped it there I you know what's funny I even said I was like I was like they might drop the price there because they did it last time 700 $700 I called it oh my so that's a hefty price tag but they didn't say if it's digital only or not so like this is where the PS blog is going to come into play cuz I need to see let's let's refresh it let's refresh it I've got it up right now so hang on of course actually it will update yeah I'm gonna open up Twitter too Twitter might have it yeah Twitter might have some updates yeah that's still nothing right now oh man the thing the thing that killed it for me was if you go back uh I still want theer mode actually I'll put it in normal fine so one thing right here look at that price for the Yen I I don't know yeah theater mode here we go look at that price for the Yen right there that is equiv equivalent if the Yen and the dollar were actually where they're supposed to be and the Yen wasn't super weak right now that would be $1,200 in Yen like our dollar like equivalent with the Yen and everything $700 damn 700 bucks crazy that's that that is much more than I thought it was going to be the thing is the thing is notice down here it says vertical stand separately which we already that's been a thing with the current PlayStation 5 right now and there's no disc drive on the side and right now the disc drive I believe is like $50 to $70 so this could actually be $750 for this PlayStation 5 Pro if you want the disc drive with it lemon it doesn't matter if we're importing the problem is I pay with Yen that's the problem yeah I have Yen if I had US Dollars it wouldn't be as bad but I have Yen that's the problem that's like Talon's entire yearly salary no it's that that's not that right there though that right there that's half my paycheck that is half my paycheck in a month that's half my paycheck right now that's insane I got real quick I'm de in two seconds go ahead go ahead uh if you find the Twitter Lis I'm trying to refresh the Playstation blog yeah my I like right near the end uh my entire computer blue screen I saw that I've never I I can't even remember the last time that's happened with this computer that's wild of course the one time I'm trying to watch some yeah might as well go with the old PS5 I mean I have a PS5 already I got one luckily back uh in 2020 end of 2021 early 2022 I got it used podcast about it yeah it's technically used um but I mean it was like it was only like two weeks old oh here we go here we go here here so here's the updated information real quick so let's take a look at this um over the last four years the launch PS5 works hard to continuously evolve the console experience blah blah blah typical stuff yada yada okay the three talking points that they talked about uh upgraded GPU PS5 Pro we upgrading a GPU that is 67% more uh compute units more than the current PS5 console and 28 28% 28 I can't read 28% % faster memory overall this enables up to a 45% faster rendering for gameplay making the experience much smoother Advanced rate tracing will add even more powerful rate tracing that provides more Dynamic Reflections and refraction lights uh this allows us allows the Rays to be cast at Double and at times triple the speeds of the current PS5 console isn't there also it's not raate tracing there's something else that's called uh uh path tracing I believe they might actually allow you to do that so yeah path tracing is really Advanced yeah it is so and then AI driven upscale we knew we knew that PlayStation was making their own type of upscaling so think you know dlss uh FSR type thing uh they they're introducing their PlayStation uh super resolution essentially AI driven upscaling it uses machine learning based technology to provide so I mean if you're a hardcore purist I guess you hate this but overall I mean take advantage of the extra frames because that's just the generation that we live in right now PC's been doing it for a while uh enhances that have someone in the States buy me one but see the problem is I could like I could ask my friend lemon to buy me one and just hold on to it right but the problem is is that I have to pay him that money right so when I convert so so in realistically right if I just said two months right I I can pay it off right $700 you know one paycheck is 350 the other is 400 just you know let's just say taxes included right the problem is is when I convert something like $300 or three the equivalent of $300 in yen to US dollar it only comes out to like 225 or something like that I I'll bring up a conversion calculator here in a second but anyway it's crazy it is um anyway so it talks about just the games Allen Way 2 Assassin's Creed oh was Shadows they showed off yeah I know they showed uh ghost of stream out beforehand but anyway regardless uh any extra pictures or anything like damn Hogwarts looks good too oh here we go here we go vertical stand so separately this drive and vertical stand sold separately so that base price right there of $700 is without the disc drive you want Drive Pony up nice thing two terabyte SSD yeah so here so here here's the extra stuff right here play 5 will be available this holiday at a manufacturer suggested retail price of 699 USD 699 I think that's I don't know what that is actually that pounds or Euros I'm not really sure no this is Euros G GBP isn't that Brazil or not Brazil uh British pound Great British pounds yeah British British pounds €799 one one what is that 11 19,90 Japanese Yen included with tax this also includes a 2 tab SSD dual sense wireless controller and a copy of Astro's playroom pre-installed okay whatever it's also available as a dis lless console with the option purchased currently unavailable wait hang on PSI Pro is also available as a is available as a dis yeah disc list console with the option to purchase the currently available disc drive for PS5 separately yeah so so let's see amazoncom preorders begin September 26 when is that is that PS5 disc drive how much is that right now disc drive8 $80 that's $780 basically $800 after tax $800 after tax for the PlayStation 5 Pro if you want the disc uh it will be launched November 7th 2024 will be available at participation reload y y there you go8 $0000 if you want the disc drive $700 if you don't oh and the stand don't forget the stand oh yeah I think that stands like 20 bucks or something like that so yeah yep so that's it's 800 but it's it's basically 800 that is damn from the rumors there is they are putting out that new um dual sense finally with the battery that's part of it and then uh the two terby Drive takes some of the sting off because like if you're playing games especially now like you got to put a another terabyte in which is another $100 got I've got a two terabyte uh SSD in my uh PS5 right now yeah um but no I I I'm with lemon I will not be buying this I mean I can't even afford it so dude I don't I don't think it's I don't think that's worth the Press I mean if you have the money you know go ahead splur yourself but yeah CH chin was like I don't care how much it is I'm buying it yeah I mean it's like like me too I'm still going to get it but like if you I had you're oh no cuz I don't want to act like I'm not going to get it I'm going to get it I'm the Sony Pony I'm definitely getting it but for anybody else who's like on the fence like this is 100% not a need at all that's crazy if you have a PS5 and financially you're you know then that you financially you're not just able to splurge and buy whatever you want this is not worth it 100% at all unless again you're somebody who has just tons of extra Revenue to buy stuff or again you're lethal who's a Sony Pony so yeah yeah the BS only Pony if not what are you doing yeah this is this is 100% not worth it so I mean I will I'd rather take that $800 and just save it to build my next PC because my next PC is probably going to cost me close to like $2,500 that'll cover your yeah that'll cover like part of your graphics card $800 would cover it would only cover my graphics card you want my suggestion my suggestion is we should be getting a switch to soon if there's one console that you do upgrade maybe this year or the next console for next year whatever whatever I think it's your switch I think you save I you sa your switch that's the one that that's the actual next like big jump for switch in Nintendo so like that makes the most sense to get that one this this is this you can wait another three to four years until PlayStation 6 comes out like you got time you got some time exactly so anyway so any for wondering okay so here so again this is what the Yen to the dollar is right now it's absolutely terrible for the Yen great for people in the America with the dollar if you come over but yeah so $800 is that right there again now if I switch this and let's just say I did so it's usually haiman this would be the Gen that's only $561 right there so I have to then come up with an extra $300 but in Yen which in reality is yeah it's it's crazy expensive so uh look at it this way saying I come over there and buy Koto pretty much could I mean dude no like honestly like if you came over here and you had $560 you could buy the PS5 Pro and the disc right now You' get it for 500 bucks is what you'd get it for so look at it this way if you play a lot of single player games go for it I mean again you don't need to I mean I I I have I have a PlayStation 5 so I don't feel the need to upgrade so I will I have a Best Buy credit card that will let me pay this off over 18 months so I'm gon to buy it oh good for you we don't have Best Buy here for that so that's unfortunate that's sucks but you know what we do have here Talon bunch of other stuff I have to deal with no medical yeah so so but I mean regardless I think like what my wife and I are going to do we're easily going to be uh just waiting for the switch Pro the next switch to come out that's more that's that's a better thing to do honestly no that's that's exactly what like uh what lethal was saying like if if you're if you're a normal consumer you do not need no you don't you don't need a PS5 Pro like I'm going to get one my brother's get one lethal's going to get one cuz we all love Sony yeah spending money lethal Mark Sony could spit in a tube and lethal would buy that [ __ ] yes I'm gonna say Mark turny how much does it cost like that's what I'm doing bro how much how much Mark I need that saliva uh no but but real talk like like cuz we're a part a part of it too is like you not chin so much anymore but like we we do the content stuff so like for me it's going to be a like partial tax write off cuz I'm going to open it on on a video and uh that'll be part of my content for my YouTube channel exactly yeah if you if you do it if you do it for that stuff you can write off as a tax write off so yeah now that's not going to pay for the whole thing don't think I get it for free just because I do that but if I make you know that much a year on my YouTube channel and you know a big chunk of that I won't have to pay taxes on because I have bought a there's information in the vertical stand sold separately we already know that okay so there's no more information you I always look I always look at the little information on the uh the bottom left corner of the pictures but yeah so the disc drive is separate and all that stuff so the really nice thing is I still have the original PS5 and the and what I use now is a wall stand that had that you know you take the stand off to mount it to that anyway right I'd probably just take it off and then put my other one like mounted under my desk to have it as just like the one that I use for Content creation or something you know put it out put it like so I can just leave it plugged into the capture card and stuff yep that'd be real nice well I will just continue to save my money for the switch 2 and my new pc so yeah Talon needs a new pc CU he's on The Struggle Bus I you using an Intel processor yeah I have a 10 so my current CP right now is a 10 uh I9 10900k so 10th it hurts yeah I feel the pain I mean if you want to really feel old my CPU for my streaming PC right now is an i7 7700k that's seventh gen oh yeah God yeah but again it's literally for streaming and recording so I mean I love I love how Wario 64 is like now advertising the dis drive for PS5 Pro is in stock like no no I don't want to buy like I sucks cuz like I I don't want to buy that but now I'm going to actually have to yeah you have to it's so setting and the thing is like I I'll say this too if they're doing this now with the PS5 Pro don't be surprised for ps6 the same thing it's going to probably be dis because that's kind of been like what it's been looking like it's going to be going forward for like Xbox PlayStation I feel like and swi probably will never do that so like just keep that in mind too like if you're seeing the way you're seeing this go now I would not be surprised come ps6 time you're gonna see this again for the ps6 and you're we're just getting forced to go into this like digital arrow man and it sucks it sucks I hate it well well it's like it's like look I just saw post this morning now again ridicule all you want like people bought Concord and I saw a bunch of people like will missed me last night he's like they took Concord from my from my PlayStation Library they took it from their Library yep you know like I have it on Steam still steam's just like n [ __ ] that you can look at it and be sad you know uh but yeah it's uh it's it's just it's wild like that's the digital future and that sucks like I think I think the thing that sucks about it is that if if we were certain that like whether your Playstation or Xbox doesn't matter if it was 100% confirmed that we could be keeping everything we buy digitally like we do on Steam right so let's let's just say for example the PS2 and on was all digital right and or yeah if we want to start with the PS4 right and let's say up to the ps7 right it was confirmed that regardless of when we bought that game it was still going to be available to play play on our ps7 or ps8 or Xbox insert name here right just like it is on Steam honestly I'd be okay with all digital it'd be perfectly fine right I can if if my system broke I bought a new one I re down I relogged into my account and all my stuff was there to buy right just like I Can Can on Steam but that's not the case right at least that we know we we can't trust them right now to keep that stuff because if it was all my PS3 purchases would still be available for me to use I'd be playing Infamous and everything like that but we can't do that so I think if that if it was a lot if it was just like steam I think the whole digital thing would be perfectly fine but it's not that's the problem so yeah that's just that's the way I look at it personally lemon does say though wait the 10 gen intels were awesome I mean for the price to Performance to how hot they got yeah I I actually agree that the T gen for Intel was actually very good but you know obviously there were now so but all right guys I got to hop off I got a meeting in like four minutes so I'll message you tonight um your time and we'll get a we'll do a video Bobby you can join if you want as well do a deeper discussion on this so yeah I'm GNA do more research throughout the day yeah do more research out during the day and everything like that so I'm G to get I'm seeing I'm seeing one of the things is uh PS5 game boost automatically stabilize or improve the performance of 8,500 backwards compatible PS4 titles that is hot [ __ ] seems have a PSR Pro oh I see I saw Mar 64 just tweet that now wait where are you see where are you seeing this I'm not huge uh I found Shinobi's post oh Shob post says that and then I think he said Wario said it too I leave this not yeah I gotta head out I'll catch you guys later all right problem but yeah that's that's that's awesome because if you if there is a game that you want to play that's on PS4 um you know it hasn't been really really done up all the way oh can it do can it do bloodborne can I make bloodborne 60 FPS mark C God I'm still though h I'm sure every single Japanese consumer right now is looking at that going well F that [ __ ] I mean I'm sure there's some with with you know Expendable income who are like okay okay some but I mean let's be perfectly honest I mean Sony for the most part has mostly cared about the West more in terms of selling oh of course yeah like I mean America Market yeah well because Nintendo has by the balls essenti like yeah what now like 154 million consoles sold so uh it always hurts me though doing conversions though from Yen to Dollars it just yeah looking I'm looking at my old Concord screenshots sad time but you know what instead of uh freaking out over the PS5 Pro price I'm just going to focus on getting the new uh Prince of Persia story DLC for five bucks and then God of War Ragnarok on PC so I can't I can't I can't that's next week if I remember correctly yeah uh lemon does bring up a good point with $600 in 2006 money is still more insane oh yeah for the PS4 that was nuts yeah that was almost 20 years ago God that was back when I had a room in the Bay Area for like 500 $25 2006 I was a sophomore in high school let's see let's check the old inflation calculator oh I got to I got to get this sophomore in high school H that's the worst well that in middle school middle school middle SCH Middle School is the worst so let's see 200 2006 uh I got it $936 equivalent to today uh oh what the $600 or whatever you put in yep yep for PlayStation the PlayStation 3 was equivalent of $936 today that hurts that hurts and then what about the PS4 cost what 500 I believe or was it no it was 400 that's what it was PS4 was 400 and that was in 203 2013 which that is probably like let's see 2013 yeah I was going to say that's probably like a 30% increase or something y yeah yeah so you know like and remember there was there was consoles back in the 90s like in '94 to 96 that were coming out that were $600 Yeah well yeah cuz back then those original consoles cost that much and then it was from the mid PS2 and GameCube time where we started to see what I think a majority of us knew when we actually started looking at this stuff right you saw a certain price it dropped down over time the new one came out and continued on like that um but now this generation is kind of more playing into what we saw back in again the the 90s basically right um so um now that that hurts to see though man especially when you do the whole 2000 the 200 I think the PS3 that was uh that was $600 that that one hurts yeah I mean that that's why the PS3 took so long to catch on I mean I got I because I because I I got a PS3 but I did not buy it for full price I think I I waited till the price dropped yeah I I got the price dropped one cuz that was I got that I think when lemon and I were Juniors we waited like a year and a half we must have been either Juniors or seniors in high school correct me if I'm wrong I don't remember exactly when it was either the end of junior year beginning of senior year is that's when I got a PS3 and uh yeah it definitely dropped a lot more uh but man that just that hurts honestly hurts though this hurts even more though this is this hurts right here with the conversion from Yen oh God damn it hurts yeah the thing the thing with this is you got to understand too like the the PS5 is going to be just fine for the majority of people right for me I have an OLED V vrr 120 frames you know or 120 hertz well that's the thing most most people's TVs can even run 120 FPS right like um so if you can't like you know if you can't do that then you have no reason for no reason um if you're rocking a TV like you know like most people do like a lot of people have like a TCL TV like one of the Best Buy brands or something and I have I used to have one of those and it were it was great like it worked great for for the most most part but like you know if you're just someone who you know straight up wants to just have their their basic console then you know it it should be it should be good enough for you to have the original it's like it's like kind of like people who you know you see the iPhone and the iPhone Pro come out right and people are like oh do do I need the pro and you have to like look and go what are the pro features oh do I need what they just unveiled the iPhone yesterday it was like the biggest feature of the pro is like the 4K 120 recording so you can do slow-mo in 4k and it's like do you need that no do you need that as a as a basic consumer no right but I think but I think that one big major difference though when it comes to a phone at least I mean at least here in Japan so I don't know if the states still still do this but most people when it comes to a phone a you've probably waited like for me personally my phone is over four years old and it's time for me to upgrade right so the upgrade makes sense for me but with a phone can generally do a plan where you just get it and then you just start making those monthly payments from the get-go right yeah um whereas with a console you've either got to buy it flat out so you got to have the money on hand or you use a credit card right and you are then starting to make those payments and everything right away or whatever the following month top of the month is or whatever um but you probably still to some extent feel it like at least for me like if I like if I buy something with my credit card it could be a candy bar it could be a PC right I feel it when I see that number you know technically go up because it's like oh you're x amount of dollars in debt right now with that credit card whereas with the phone it's just simply I don't see that number right I know it's there technically but I don't see that giant number of my you know updated plan and the phone price calculated all in there and everything that I just simply get you know the the the money ticket out of my bank account every month here and that's it that's all I have to do so yeah um but yeah so it does feel a little different technically it's the same but at the same time it's not so yeah it's uh man that's uh it's rough expect a lot of people to be complaining online today for that Pro price you oh I've literally see nothing but people comp like people even even people are going I'm buying it day one but man that's that's hard to swallow that's hard to swallow that is very hard to swallow y yeah and I mean I I get it but it's it's just like like I said I have some games that are digital maybe I'll get the digital first use the the pro for my disc games or use the standard for my disc games and then buy the the vers the disc drive when I get it you know when I again I think I think it would be easier for people to swallow an all digital Market Trend like this if we knew that in 10 to 15 years our games would still be there and functioning and all that stuff just like with steam I can because think about it we have our steam libraries are All Digital but but I have games on there that technically are not being sold anymore the uh the Transformers games technically you can't buy those on Steam anymore but I have those and those are never taken away from my account or anything like that right whereas with PlayStation and Xbox right now that can happen so if we were guaranteed 100% that in you know the ps8 days when we're in our 50s and 60s and stuff like that that we could still play those and I could pass those down to my kids and my grandkids and everything I fine with the total uh digital future but it's not guaranteed so yeah that's that's the other thing that's really shitty about digital even steam doesn't let you pass the thing on you know pass your account on obviously just leave your login info right exactly you got to leave the login info with them and so as long as you do that so then you just change out the the debit card or card or whatever that was part of the account change it up and you're good to go but yeah technically yeah but it's just for one of those things so people saying $700 for 60 FPS yeah that's it happens when it's literally just everyone going $700 $700 Rous nothing but 700 nothing but 700 but people buy it it's it's it's you know it's just like uh it's it's it's like I was saying it's just like the iPhone you know any any premium thing like that Sony is the I mean Sony's a lot of people even kind of call it this way Sony is the quote unquote Apple of the gaming landscape right now where they can throw out these big prices you're still going to have those people that buy it them regardless right you'll see everyone complain online but guess what it it all depends on those the actual purchasing right again and it's it's like just any game essentially right you see the people complain about X game here they complain about call they complain about Call of Duty for cray out loud Call of Duty still sells the best every year so yeah yep that's that's yeah that's the big thing too is like you got to understand a lot of people will do this and I hate to I hate to like I'm not trying to put anyone on blast here but a lot of people are just going to do this for clout to be like look at me I'm standing up against Sony and they ridiculous thing cuz I'm Pro Gamer I'm going to buy it anyway but you know like you who can't afford it I'm standing up for you while I well I buy it's it's a lot of clout Jas oh no it it is it's it's typical online bs stuff that we yeah see for everything and the same thing happens with with other stuff like same thing happened with the the um what's it that Xbox like two terabyte one they had it's like yeah that's it's kind of weird that they did that but at the same time if you're going to get a two terab Xbox you know you have to pay what like $80 for their their one terabyte drive thing that they have so it's cheaper to actually buy that console yeah you know and that's all business move that's that's all you know thought out and they're like well we do this technically make it you know we make it look cheaper to the consumer and everything like that so um again it's normal business stuff Sony does it Microsoft does it even Nintendo does it to some extent every single business out there does it guys like just that's the way it is so again the the best thing you can do though is to actually stand by what you say if you say you're not going to buy it then they'll buy it you know speak with your wallet um it you know it it's we've rarely but we do see it work for you know games and things like that um I do think most likely the reason that this price looks like this way though is because I have been hearing that um the prices of the semiconductors are going back up right um we knew this back in 2020 you know the big uh semiconductor silicon all that stuff you know that was in high demand and that's why prices were so high during that time and people expected after everything calmed down that prices go back down but they kind of just stopped randomly almost in the middle and now it seems that some of those prices I again I don't know if it's the semiconductors of the silicon or whatever uh but some of that stuff's going to go starting to go back up in price because even if you look at something like a a graphics card for a PC right every you know generation before the 3040 series you know you'd see that stuff go down in price why do you think people still loved the 10 series back in the day right you ask almost any PC Gamer and they're like oh the 10 series was like the best time to be a PC Gamer and everything like that right because it was a good it was the best like hang for the buck right like you had to pay some decent money but you got it lasted a super long time and it was really good and everything it actually performed really well whereas like for the 40 series last I checked those have not gone down in price at all um unless of course you're looking at the used Market I'm talking about like a brand new one some people don't feel safe trying to use or trying to buy off the used Market because you get scammed or you know you technically don't know what could be wrong with the thing that you buy and you don't want to waste the money on it so well the 40 series yes and no with the cards because like the 4080 is cheaper than the 480 super is cheaper than the 480 was right right it performs better so it's like that's a that's a price cut right but that that 480 is still what, oh yeah I mean it's not cheap whereas what I'm saying is that like usually the 80 series of each generation you know let like the 1080 for example that was like $600 when that came out right um for for which one the 1080 I I believe I believe it was was the 1080 or the 980 I can't remember which one the 1080 was like 600 bucks yeah it was $600 right and that and at that time the only one past the 1080 was the Titan I believe there was no 90 series yet so um so everyone just went for the 80 you know what's crazy Talon say in 2016 which when I got it 1080 600 bucks that's $786 today yeah 8 years 30% inflation yeah pain yeah so and the thing is that inflation for the most part it's kind of where it is right now the problem is that you're just seeing price gouging everywhere for a lot of companies and that's a big thing everyone keeps saying like inflation is super high it's like actually really not it's actually come down back to where it's supposed to be the problem is that prices have not gone back down you know whether it's a company just price gouging because they don't want their profits to go down or you know just things just have just not down in price so again just just look at basic facts and charts and everything it's not that hard to look up so all right well I think with that being said though I'm going to get going here I got to go to bed because it's almost 1: a.m. my time uh I'll message you later uh for the for doing the discussion with lethal if you find any extra information post it in the chat and uh we'll make that video later today yep yep yep all right and then with that being said guys though I'm going to end the stream there thank you so much for everyone that drop by and uh let's know you can Pi up a PS5 Pro you know lovely $800 with that uh that dis Drive 700 if you just want to go digital let us uh let us know but with that being said I've been time R gaming joined here by little Bobby and we'll see you guys in the next one Johnny