FSU Football | Can 2024 Florida State stack up to 2012 roster | DEBATE | Warchant #FSU

we're moving things along now here next question man I'm not even going to do all the Preamble on this look through all the questions this one is going to generate the most discussion I feel like fire up the generators fire up the cameras let's do it generating discussion presented by our great friends over at cumins just follow them on Instagram everybody Cummins lifestyle it's all one word and give them a follow go to warchant.com post your questions every single week into the Renegade Express mailbag best question guess enter into a monthly drawing to win some free comeing swag and an entry into a grand prize drawing at the end of the year for either a portable generator or a portable power station with all that said Corey the question comes from our guy grumpy BK he's been doing some observing of The rosters and says he can't break the thought that the 2024 team resembles the 2012 team on paper position group by position group how does the 24 roster stack up in your opinion now he went ahead and did this man and he says I don't have to read the entire sections below but feel free to use for reference um I mean running backs you got royell toofy jayen Lucas versus Devonte James Wilder Chris Thompson defensive backs you've got AAR shahim fentrell Earl little versus Terence Brooks Derby Joiner Xavier rhods your kickers probably not as good Dustin Hopkins but your punter is better Master Romano over batty what do you think 12 versus is 24 Cory Clark look man no this team does not have more Talent than the 2012 team and understand that team was 12-2 and really was a I mean just remarkable they lost that game in Raleigh that was a 13- one potential National Champion most talented roster in the country um you're not you don't have that kind of talent you just don't are you a better team though um because you don't have Bjorn Warner and tank kerine at def got Marvin Jones Jr and Patrick pyton you've got yes and and they might end up being good I don't know if their first round good uh bjor Warner was great I don't know that aaria Thomas is Xavier rhods good because Xavier rhods was awesome um overall you don't have a a a secondary with Terence Brooks Lamarcus Joiner and Xavier Ro in it PJ Williams was like a backup nick whome uh started that year Derby uh was kind of a backup on that team a little bit joury you just go on and on the offensive line four of those guys were drafted by the NFL I don't think you have that um EJ was a first round pick I don't think DJ is as good as EJ but DJ is a reasonable effect simil to EJ easy for me to say uh I think overall no if you're looking at the roster uh that you're you're not going to you're not going to have a team that's as good that's as talented as the 2012 roster because that team the guys on that team will tell you they probably should have won a national championship they're mad that they didn't but uh this team has more experience than that team by and large it's an older team um and you know you don't have to be 12- two you don't have to be a 12- win team to get to the playoff anymore you don't uh I I think that when you look I don't know that there's a position group other than punter where you'd say okay the 2024 team is definitely better I just don't the 2012 had Rashad green Rody Smith Kelvin Benjamin sort of but not really wasn't really Benjamin yet the running backs Chris Thompson was awesome yeah I don't know that you have and then Devonte Freeman was an all at All Pro in the NFL so I don't think you have that either but what you have is experience a lot of college experience and uh guys that have proven they can play and play well at this level and that's kind of what you need you know that's that's kind of what you need I I don't think the star power on this team is is close to that team but again I'm not it sounds like I'm just degrading the 2024 team you just happen to choose one of the most talented teams in Florida State history I mean when you look at the NFL guys it was one of the most talented teams in Florida State history but they weren't all that exper there was a lot of inexperience there were a lot of guys really starting for the first time like a teren Brooks Darby getting their first real playing time um Kelvin Benjamin nickol lery even was getting his first Real playing time as a part of the offense so they took some lumps maybe and they weren't as dominant as they should have been because of the inexperience well this team is certainly has an edge in experience and that matters a lot in college football it does it's just not it's not on the same level I don't think as the 2012 team is as far as a pure NFL talent I don't want to break it to our guy but greedy Vance is no longer here um but Terence Brooks Pro Derby Pro Joiner Pro Xavier rhods Pro for a long times like th Pro shahen Brown Pro Earl little Pro fentral Cyprus maybe maybe Pro yeah Conrad hussy you I mean so I don't know I I don't want to bmer a 2012 team because yeah they it was one bad game man like really I mean I know the Florida game was another one as well but um I feel like I think receivers you're better in 12 than you are in 14 I I'll I'll give a push on defensive ends what he's got listed there defensive tackle I'm giving the edge to 12 2012 linebackers considerably better um I give the edge to defensive backs Specialists I'm giving the edge I'm giving the edge to 24 I think Mass Romano is that much better than batty um Hopkins isn't that much better to Fitzgerald he's better but not by as much of a margin as M Romano as toti all right okay running backs um I'm I'm giving a a significant Edge to 2012 offensive line I'm going to call it a push man those guys end up being stor Pro Irving Pro Matas Pro Hart Pro man Bobby Hart's still in the league getting a paycheck Trey Jackson Pro um but that was 2012 yeah but that 2012 line is it right because they also had melck Watson who was a second round pick not Sterling love lady so melck Watson was another uh starter on that team and and a good one uh who they didn't have I think for the NC State game which was a you know turned out to be a big deal yeah I just think overall the nature of the question um it the we don't know too either right like we're we I know who Ronald Derby ended up being I know what Lamarcus join end up being in ter Brook Cory be Pro be the project but I'm saying that's what makes it hard is I don't know what Earl little is Earl little might like make me look like an idiot because 10 years from now he's the NFL MVP like I have no idea about ear little none so that's what makes it hard is we have the hindsight of the 20202 team and how talented it was we don't know what this what how talented these guys are going to end up being from an NFL standpoint it's a good question though it's a fair question and if they have a 2012 type of year we'll all be happy just you because you don't even play Inc State this year I tried everybody I tried to project out so I 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