CBC News: The National | Biden-Trump presidential debate

The National for June 27, 2024 [♪♪♪] >> Adrienne: TONIGHT, IT IS GAME ON IN THE RACE FOR THE U.S. PRESIDENCY. JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP TAKE THEIR FIGHT TO THE DEBATE STAGE. >> President Donald Trump: I WASN'T REALLY GOING TO RUN UNTIL I SAW THE HORRIBLE JOB HE DID. >> President Joe Biden: NEVER HEARD SO MUCH MALARKEY IN MY WHOLE LIFE. >> Adrienne: THE VOTE IS STILL MONTHS AWAY BUT THE POLLS ARE SO CLOSE AND THE POLITICAL STAKES COULDN'T BE HIGHER. >>> SENTENCING IN IQUALUIT FOR A MOTHER CONVICTED OF IDENTITY FRAUD. >> IT'S A MESSAGE SENT TO ANYONE WHO'S TRYING TO DEFRAUD INDIGENOUS, INUIT, FIRST NATIONS. >> Adrienne: THE AFTERMATH OF RAGE BY ISRAELI SOLDIERS IN THE WEST BANK. >> WE SAY THAT ANY MOMENT THEY COULD COME HERE. >> Adrienne: MARGARET EVANS IS IN THE REGION. [♪♪♪] Biden-Trump presidential debate >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >>> AFTER MONTHS OF CAMPAIGNING IN THEIR OWN LANES, JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP FINALLY MET ON THE SAME STAGE, EACH WITH A CHANCE TO PUT THEIR A-GAMES ON DISPLAY FOR AMERICAN VOTERS. TRUMP'S TEAM MAYBE FEELING GOOD ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATE, THOUGH HE WAS BARELY CHALLENGED ON SOME OF HIS ASSERTIONS, BUT THE BIGGEST CRITICISM MAY BE OF THE SITTING PRESIDENT. WE HAVE COVERAGE FROM ALL THE ANGLES, INCLUDING A LOOK AT THE VOTERS IN PLAY, BUT LET'S START WITH KATIE SIMPSON WHO WATCHED IT ALL FROM ATLANTA. SO KATIE, LET'S TALK FIRST ABOUT THE BIG TAKEAWAYS FROM TONIGHT. >> Reporter: YEAH, AND ADRIENNE, THERE'S ONE WAY TO SUM IT UP. DURING THE DEBATE, I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM A VERY SENIOR SOURCE INSIDE PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU'S OFFICE, AND THE SOURCE SAID, QUOTE, "THIS IS PAINFUL TO WATCH." THE REALLY BIG HEADLINE THAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS DEBATE IS RELATED TO JOE BIDEN'S PERFORMANCE TONIGHT. IT WAS THE PRESIDENT WHO WANTED TO HAVE THIS DEBATE ON HIS TERMS, AND HE WANTED TO SORT OF MEET THE MOMENT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF AMERICANS WHO MIGHT BE CONCERNED THAT HE'S TOO OLD TO WIN THIS ELECTION, THAT HE'S THE PERSON READY TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY INTO THE FUTURE. JOE BIDEN SOUNDED HOARSE, HIS ENERGY LEVEL WAS LOW, AND AT MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE DEBATE, HE LOST HIS TRAIN OF THOUGHT. >> CHILD CARE, HEALTH CARE, MAKING SURE THAT WE STRENGTHEN OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, MAKING SURE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON ELIGIBLE FOR WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE COVID -- EXCUSE ME, DEALING WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO WITH -- LOOK, IF -- WE FINALLY BEAT MEDICARE. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BIDEN. PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> President Donald Trump: WELL, HE IS RIGHT. HE BEAT MEDICAID TO DEATH, AND HE IS DESTROYING MEDICARE. >> Reporter: WE KNOW THAT JOE BIDEN HAS A STUTTER, AND IT APPEARS IN SOME THINGS THAT HE SPEAKS WITH. WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP DID WHAT DONALD TRUMP DOES. HE SPEAKS WITH CONFIDENCE, WITH ENERGY, BUT SO MUCH OF WHAT HE SAID TONIGHT WAS NOT FACTUALLY CORRECT. HE WAS ASKED BY THE MODERATORS IF HE WOULD ACCEPT THE OUTCOME OF THE 2024 ELECTION, AND ONCE AGAIN, HE LIED ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION AND HIS CLAIMS ABOUT VOTER FRAUD. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP, THE QUESTION WAS WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE 2024 ELECTION? >> President Donald Trump: IF IT'S A GOOD AND FAIR ELECTION, ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE ACCEPTED THESE, BUT THE FRAUD AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS RIDICULOUS, AND IF YOU WANT, WE'LL HAVE A NEWS CONFERENCE ON IT IN A WEEK, OR WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE IN A WEEK, BUT I WILL ABSOLUTELY, THERE'S NOTHING I'D RATHER DO. >> Reporter: SO CANADIANS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE SAT THERE AND WATCHED THE ENTIRE DEBATE, THE BIG TAKEAWAY, IF YOU NEED TO KNOW FOR HEADING INTO TOMORROW AND WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO NEXT, JOE BIDEN, IT WAS A DIFFICULT NIGHT WHERE HIS ENERGY LEVELS DIDN'T MEET THE BAR WHERE HE WAS HOPING TO DISPLAY CONFIDENCE, ENERGY, AND EXTREMELY COMPETENT, HOPING TO BE THE MAN CONTINUING TO LEAD THE UNITED STATES. DONALD TRUMP, WHAT HE SAID MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FACTUALLY CORRECT, BUT HE SAID IT WITH CONFIDENCE AND WITH ENERGY. THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT AMERICAN VOTERS WILL BE GRAPPLING ONE. >> Adrienne: THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION, TOO, KATIE. CNN HOSTED AND MODERATED THIS DEBATE. THAT WAS THE FIRST FOR A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. I HAVE TO SAY, THOUGH, THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT DID CNN DO ITS JOB? WAS THE FACT CHECKING ABSENT? SOMETIMES THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT ORANGES AND THE ANSWERS WERE ABOUT LOBSTERS? >> Reporter: AND THAT IS GOING TO BE A BIG QUESTION GOING FORWARD. REMEMBER, IT WAS THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN THAT PUT IT OUT THERE, SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO DO THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE COMMISSION, WE WANT THIS NEW FORMAT. THE MODERATORS ASKED QUESTIONS, THEY DID NOT PUSH THE CANDIDATES WHEN IT CAME TO FACT CHECKING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEMOCRATS WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE SEEING IT COME UP. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW HANDS-OFF THE MODERATORS WERE DURING THE DEBATE, THE CONVERSATION DEVOLVED INTO GOLF AT ONE POINT. >> President Donald Trump: TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO BE QUITE SMART AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE BALL A LONG WAY. HE DOESN'T DO IT. HE CAN'T HIT THE BALL 50 YARDS. >> President Joe Biden: LISTEN, I'D BE HAPPY TO HIT THE BALL WITH HIM. WHEN I WAS VICE PRESIDENT, I GOT MY HANDICAP DOWN TO A SIX. BY THE WAY, I TOLD YOU I'M HAPPY TO PLAY GOLF IF YOU CAN CARRY YOUR OWN BAG. >> President Donald Trump: THAT'S THE BIGGEST LIE OF ALL, THAT HE'S A SIX HANDICAP. >> President Joe Biden: I'M AN EIGHT. >> Reporter: THERE IS A COST OF LIVING CRISIS, THERE'S AN IMMIGRATION CRISIS, THERE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF -- QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, AND THERE'S A CHUNK OF TIME DEDICATED TO CANDIDATES TALKING ABOUT THEIR GOLF SCORES. >> Reporter: THANK YOU, KATIE. THE CBCs KATIE SIMPSON IN ATLANTA. >>> FOR MORE, LET'S BRING IN PAUL HUNTER. PAUL, WHAT WILL THE DEBATE BE LIKE GOING FORWARD? WHAT KINDS OF QUESTIONS ARE PEOPLE ASKING NOW? >> Reporter: WELL, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF OPTICS, BUT IN POLITICS, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, AND I THINK FOR BIDEN, THIS WAS A PAINFUL NIGHT. ALL THE TALK THAT HE'S GOT TO DEMONSTRATE GUMPTION AND MENTAL ACUITY, FOR HIM TO WALK OUT THE WAY HE DID, ENERGILESS, HOARSE, THE QUESTION IS COULD IT BE THAT DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE TO RECONSIDER AND THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR A CANDIDATE? AT THIS POINT, IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? YES, TECHNICALLY, BUT WHAT A LEAP. BUT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE GIVEN WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT AND THE STAKES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS ELECTION? JOE BIDEN HAS FOUR MONTHS TO UNDO ALL OF THE ABOVE. THE QUESTION IS, CAN HE? TO BE FAIR, HE STEPPED IT UP WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUMP'S CHARACTER, THE MORALS OF AN ALLEY CAT, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S AS IF DEMOCRATS ARE BACK ON DEFENCE ABOUT BIDEN'S AGE, THAT ONE WEAK SPOT THAT THEY KNEW ALL ALONG, AND HERE IT IS, FRONT AND CENTRE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. BIDEN HAD VIM AND VIGOR AT THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS. THIS WAS NOT THE JOE BIDEN THAT WE SAW AT THE STATE OF THE UNION, AND I'LL JUST SAY, TRUMP, COMPARED TO SOME OF HIS OTHER DEBATES THAT WE'VE SEEN, DISCIPLINED, BUT I THINK IT WAS TRUMP WHO SAID NEAR THE END, WHEN THEY WERE BICKERING ABOUT GOLF, TRUMP SAID LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CHILDREN. BOTTOM LINE FOR BIDEN, IT WAS HARD TO WATCH, AND I SUSPECT BIDEN SUPPORTERS ARE STARING AT THE GROUND AND WONDERING NOW WHAT? >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT. PAUL HUNTER IN WASHINGTON, Battle for undecided voters in swing states THANK YOU, PAUL. >>> SO BIDEN AND TRUMP ARE, OF COURSE, TRYING TO CONVINCE VOTERS, BUT SOME VOTERS MATTER MORE THAN OTHERS IN THIS, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHOEVER IS PRESIDENT IS THE ONE WHO GETS THE MOST VOTES. IT'S UP TO THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, AND HERE'S MORE ON HOW THAT WORKS. THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VOTERS IN EACH STATE. LARGE STATES GET MORE VOTERS. ADD THOSE UP, AND THE FIRST TO 270 WINS. HERE'S THE WRINKLE: MOST OF THOSE ARE RELIABLELY DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN, AND KEY FOR TRUMP AND BIDEN IS THE FIVE OR SIX STATES THAT COULD GO EITHER WAY. SO FOR MORE ON THOSE SWING STATES, LET'S BRING IN ELLEN MAURO. ELLEN, WHAT DOES THE POLLING SHOW US ABOUT WHO THOSE VOTERS ACTUALLY ARE AND WHAT THEY WANT? >> Reporter: WELL, ADRIENNE, GOING INTO THE DEBATE ITSELF, AND THIS COULD CHANGE SOME OF THE DYNAMICS, BUT POLLING WAS SUGGESTING UNDECIDED VOTERS IN STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, PENNSYLVANIA, AND NEVADA, WERE YOUNGER AND WERE MORE LIKELY TO BE BLACK OR HISPANIC VOTERS. WE CAN SHOW YOU A POLL FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES THIS GRAPHIC. FOR HISPANIC VOTERS, THERE WAS VIRTUALLY A TIE FOR DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN, AND IN BLACK VOTERS, IT SHOWED TRUMP HAVING MORE SUPPORT AMONG BLACK VOTERS THAN HE DID IN 2020. WHY DOES THIS MATTER? THESE ARE KEY VOTERS FOR BIDEN. THEY HELPED HIM GET TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AND GOING INTO TONIGHT'S DEBATE, EVEN TODAY, THEY WERE HESITANT TO SAY THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM IS A REALLY TRICKY THING FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. HE DID TRY TO APPEAL TO THOSE VOTERS TONIGHT BY TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT. HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> President Joe Biden: THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE. WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE STILL IN TROUBLE. I GREW UP IN SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE WHERE IF THINGS WEREN'T ABLE TO BE MET THROUGH THE MONTH, THERE WAS TROUBLE. THE PRICE OF EGGS, THE PRICE OF MILK, THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT TO GET A HANDLE ON THOSE THINGS. >> Reporter: THE FACT THAT THERE ARE VOTERS WHO WERE SOFT ON BIDEN GOING INTO THE DEBATE, VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR HIM IN THE PAST DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN, ACCORDING TO THESE POLLS BEFORE, THAT THEY WERE ALL GOING TO FLOCK TO DONALD TRUMP. SOME MIGHT, ACCORDING TO THAT NEW YORK TIMES POLL, BUT WHAT THIS REALLY SHOWS, ADRIENNE, IS THERE'S THIS UNDERLYING REALITY OF THIS ELECTION, THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF AMERICAN VOTERS DON'T WANT EITHER OF THESE MEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. WE CAN SHOW YOU ANOTHER POLL FROM PEW, FINDING THAT 25% OF AMERICANS DON'T HAVE A FAVORABLE VIEW TOWARD DONALD TRUMP OR JOE BIDEN, AND ANOTHER POLL SUGGESTS THAT AS MANY AS 20% OF VOTERS GOING INTO TONIGHT'S DEBATE EITHER DIDN'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN, WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE, OR WERE JUST SIMPLY NOT SHOWING UP AT ALL IN THIS ELECTION. >> Adrienne: OKAY. THOSE ARE REALLY INTERESTING AND BIG NUMBERS. BEYOND THE DEMOGRAPHIC, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT COULD TIP THE BALANCE WITH THOSE COHORTS? >> Reporter: WELL, AFTER THE DEBATE TONIGHT, THERE WILL BE OTHER CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING, BUT THE COST OF LIVING AND INFLATION IS A BIG ISSUE FOR SWING STATE VOTERS. WE HEARD THAT FROM BIDEN. TRUMP WAS TRYING TO HAMMER BIDEN ON THE ECONOMY DURING THE DEBATE. ANOTHER ISSUE WAS IMMIGRATION, AND TRUMP TRIED TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT. TAKE A LISTEN. >> President Donald Trump: WE HAVE TO GET A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT, AND WE HAVE TO GET THEM OUT FAST BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THEY'RE GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY. >> Reporter: THAT'S THE KIND OF RHETORIC THAT WE HEARD DURING TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY. AGAIN, VOTERS TRUST TRUMP ON THESE ISSUES THAN THEY DO BIDEN, SO ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR BIDEN. OTHER PROBLEMS FOR VOTERS ARE THE STATE OF DEMOCRACY AND ABORTION. THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT BIDEN HOPES WILL HELP HIM, BUT TONIGHT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER CONVERSATIONS, AND BIDEN'S FITNESS FOR OFFICE IS ONE THAT WAS ALREADY HAPPENING AMONG SWING STATE VOTERS. SWING STATE VOTERS ALSO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT TRUMP. HE ELICITS FEELINGS OF ANGER AND WORRY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THESE PERFORMANCES THAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING IN THE DAYS AHEAD. >> Adrienne: AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT ELECTION MONTHS AND MONTHS AWAY. ELLEN MAURO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> SO COMING UP LATER, BRIAN STELTER, TIA MITCHELL, AND OUR VERY OWN PAUL HUNTER WILL BREAKDOWN THE DEBATE IN DETAIL. >>> SO SHIFTING NOW TO TONIGHT'S OTHER STORIES, CBC NEWS HAS NEW INFORMATION THIS EVENING ABOUT THE MAN ACCUSED OF SELLING A POISONOUS SUBSTANCE ON-LINE. KENNETH LAW IS EXPECTED TO GO ON TRIAL IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025. HE IS CHARGED WITH 14 COUNTS OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER. THOMAS DAIGLE HAS LED OUR COVERAGE AND HAS THE LATEST ON WHAT WE KNOW. >> Reporter: A FORMER COOK AT A TORONTO HOTEL, KENNETH LAW IS NOW HEADED FOR A MURDER TRIAL. THE FAMILIES OF HIS 14 ALLEGED VICTIMS ACROSS ONTARIO HAVE BEEN TOLD TO EXPECT A MARATHON EIGHT-WEEK TRIAL BEGINNING IN SEPTEMBER 2025, MORE THAN TWO YEARS AFTER LAW, AN ALLEGED POISON SELLER, WAS FIRST ARRESTED AND CHARGED. IT'S A CASE THIS CRIMINAL DEFENCE LAWYER DESCRIBES AS COMPLEX. >> WHAT MAY WELL BE UNPRECEDENTED AND WHAT THE CROWN MAY WELL HAVE DIFFICULTY PROOFING IS THAT THIS QUALIFIES AS MURDER. >> Reporter: USING HIS OWN ON-LINE STOREFRONTS, LAW IS Kenneth Law murder trial to start in Sept. 2025 ACCUSED OF MARKETING TO CLIENTS LEGAL BUT POTENTIALLY LETHAL SUBSTANCE. A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION FINDS HIS PRODUCTS ARE SUSPECTED TO BE CONNECTED TO AT LEAST 127 DEATHS WORLDWIDE. >> ADAM WAS THE LOVELIEST SOUL. HE WAS VERY KIND, VERY WISE. >> Reporter: 28-YEAR-OLD ADAM BIRCH IN ENGLAND DIED LAST YEAR. HIS FAMILY SAYS POLICE TOLD THEM MONTHS LATER ADAM'S NAME APPEARED ON A LIST OF LAW'S CUSTOMERS. >> I KNOW HE'S BEING TRIED IN CANADA, AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE HIM TO BE TRIED OVER HERE, AS WELL. >> Reporter: IN ONTARIO, LAW IS CHARGED WITH 14 COUNTS OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER AND 14 COUNTS OF COUNSELING OR AIDING SUICIDE. THAT'S MORE MURDER CHARGES THAN NOTORIOUS CANADIAN SERIAL KILLERS CLIFFORD OLSON, ROBERT PICKTON, AND ELIZABETH WETLAUF WERE CONVICTED OF. LAW REMAINS IN CUSTODY. HIS NEXT COURT APPEARANCE IS SET FOR THIS SEPTEMBER. POLICE IN B.C., ALBERTA, AND QUEBEC ARE ALL INVESTIGATING DEATHS THEY SUSPECT MAY BE Canada sanctions those behind West Bank violence CONNECTED. THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: TO THE MIDDLE EAST NOW. CANADA IS IMPOSING MORE SANCTIONS ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT CALLS PERPETRATORS OF EXTREMIST SETTLER VIOLENCE IN THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK. SEVEN INDIVIDUALS AND FIVE ENTITIES WILL HAVE THEIR ASSETS FROZEN HERE AND WON'T BE ADMISSIBLE INTO CANADA. >> Reporter: GENIN IN THE NORTHERN REACHES OF THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK, WHERE THE DAYS ARE OFTEN VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE NIGHTS. LAST NIGHT WAS A BAD ONE FOR THIS 40-YEAR-OLD, SHOWING US PICTURES OF HIS HOME, HE SAYS, DESTROYED DURING THE ISRAELI ARMY'S LATEST INCURSION. THEY DIDN'T TARGET, HE SAID, JUST MY HOUSE, THEY TARGETED THE WHOLE AREA, MEANING THE REFUGEE CAMP, KNOWN AS A STRONGHOLD FOR THE ARMED RESISTANCE TO THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION AND ALSO HOME TO THOUSANDS OF CIVILIANS. ISRAEL SAYS IT'S TARGETING TERRORIST OPERATIVES. VIOLENT INCURSIONS BY ISRAELI FORCES HERE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES HAVE INCREASED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THE START OF THE GAZA WAR. THIS MAN WAS SHOT IN THE ARM AND LEG DURING AN ARREST RAID LAST WEEKEND. IMAGES OF THE INJURED 23-YEAR-OLD STUCK ON THE HOOD OF AN ISRAELI ARMY VEHICLE HAVE BEEN WIDELY CONDEMNED. THEY WERE DRIVING BACK AND FORTH, HIS COUSIN TELLS US. THEY EVEN WENT BY AMBULANCES AND DIDN'T STOP. HE WAS VISITING HIS UNCLE'S HOME HERE ABOVE THE JENIN REFUGEE CAMP WHEN ISRAELI SOLDIERS ARRIVED TO ARREST TWO OF HIS COUSINS. THEY DESCRIBED HIM AS A SUSPECT BUT ALSO SAID THAT SOLDIERS VIOLATED PROTOCOL IN THEIR TREATMENT OF HIM. PEOPLE IN JENIN WILL TELL YOU THEIR SITUATION IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING IN GAZA, BUT IT IS HAVING AN IMPACT PHYSICALLY, ECONOMICALLY, AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY. THIS WOMAN IS A SCHOOLTEACHER. >> WE ACCEPT THAT ANY MOMENT THEY COME HERE [indiscernible] NOT RELAX. >> Reporter: ONE ISRAELI SOLDIER WAS KILLED IN LAST NIGHT'S INCURSION AND 16 OTHERS INJURED APPARENTLY BY A ROAD SIDE BOMB. NOW RESIDENTS SAY THEY'RE BRACING FOR POTENTIAL RETALIATION. MARGARET EVANS, CBC NEWS, JENIN. >> Adrienne: SCIENTISTS ARE ONE STEP CLOSER TO FINDING OUT WHY SOME PEOPLE NEVER GET COVID. >> IT PUTS AN ANCHOR IN THE GROUND AND SAID WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THIS AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT, SO THAT'S HOW MAJOR DISCOVERIES ARE Why some people never get COVID-19 >> Adrienne: MORE THAN 760 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INFECTED BY THE COVID VIRUS WORLDWIDE, AND THAT'S JUST CONFIRMED CASES, BUT SOME PEOPLE NEVER CATCH IT. AS CHRISTINE BIRAK TELLS US, SCIENTISTS IN THE U.K. NOW THEY THINK KNOW WHY. >> THERE IS A LOT TO LEARN FROM STUDIES LIKE THIS, AND IT IS QUITE EXCITING. >> Reporter: IN A WORLD-FIRST CHALLENGE TRIAL DONE AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC, RESEARCHERS IN THE U.K. INFECTING DOZENS OF HEALTHY UNVACCINATED ADULTS WITH A LOW DOSE OF THE ORIGINAL COVID VIRUS AND THEN MONITORED HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR THEIR RESPONSE SYSTEM TO KICK IN. THOSE WHO BECAME INFECTED HAD THE SLOWEST RESPONSE. THOSE WHO BECAME MILDLY INFECTED HAD A FAST RESPONSE, BUT THOSE WHO NEVER BECAME ILL HAD THE FASTEST RESPONSE. IMMUNOLOGISTS SAY THEY'RE STILL NOT SURE HOW OR WHY THAT SPECIFIC GENE OFFERS PROTECTION. >> IF YOU WOULD ASK ME TO PREDICT GENES THAT WOULD HAVE OFFERED THAT PROTECTION, THESE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE GENES THAT I WOULD HAVE SELECTED. >> Reporter: WE MET HUGH POTTER IN 2022. WHILE HIS WIFE HAD COVID, HE NEVER GOT SICK, AND HE WONDERS IF THAT GENE IS NOW PROTECTING HIM. >> IF THEY DO HAVE A GENE THAT, IN THE FUTURE, COULD MEAN MORE CURES FOR PEOPLE FROM MORE THAN JUST THE VIRUS -- >> Reporter: DOCTORS HAVE BEEN COLLECTING GENES FROM PEOPLE LIKE POTTER AND SAY WHILE THE GENE IS PROMISING THERE'S A LOT MORE MYSTERY TO UNRAVEL. ALL OF THE SCIENTISTS THAT WE SPOKE TO SAID WHILE THERE ARE NEW VARIANTS AND MUCH MORE RESEARCH IS NEEDED, THERE COULD BE OTHER GENES TO TARGET COVID AND OTHER RESPIRATORY VIRUSES, AS WELL. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: AFTER THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, FROM THE SHORTFALLS TO THE STUMBLES TO THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. >> YOU'VE GOT THE MORALS OF AN ALLEY CAT. >> YOUR Sentencing in Inuit identity fraud case >> Adrienne: AN ONTARIO MOTHER HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN PRISON IN WHAT'S BELIEVED TO BE A FIRST OF ITS KIND INDIGENOUS IDENTITY THEFT. JUANITA TAYLOR HAS MORE. >> Reporter: AS A REPEAT OFFENDER, KARIMA MANJI HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN A FEDERAL PRISON FOR INDIGENOUS IDENTITY FRAUD, WELCOME NEWS FOR THE FAMILY THAT WAS VICTIMIZED. >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'LL EASE THE PAIN, JUST TO KNOW THAT IT'S A MESSAGE SENT TO ANYONE WHO'S TRYING TO DEFRAUD INDIGENOUS, INUIT, FIRST NATION. >> Reporter: MANJI USED NOAH NOAH'S MOTHER'S NAME TO APPLY FOR INDIGENOUS STATUS FOR HER DAUGHTERS, QUALIFYING HIM FOR EDUCATION SCHOLARSHIPS, MONEY MEANT FOR INDIGENOUS STUDENTS. THE JUDGE CALLED THIS CRIME AN EGREGIOUS EXAMPLE OF THE EXPLOITATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. THE SENTENCE FITS THE CRIME BUT THE DAMAGE RUNS DEEPER. >> THE CALLOUSNESS OF THIS PERSON, TO SEE IT THAT WAY, I'M SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CASE THAT ECHOS. >> Reporter: MANJI TOLD THE COURT SHE IS DEEPLY SORRY, AND SHE HOPES BY REPAYING THE MONEY AND APOLOGIZING SHE'S TAKEN STEPS IN REVERSING THE HARM SHE'S CAUSED. Breaking down the Biden-Trump debate JUANITA TAYLOR, CBC NEWS, IQUALUIT. >> Adrienne: NOW IT'S TIME TO DIG DEEPER INTO TONIGHT'S HISTORIC U.S. PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. [♪♪♪] >> President Joe Biden: THINK OF ALL THE CIVIL PENALTIES YOU HAVE. HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DO YOU OWE FOR CIVIL PENALTIES, FOR MOLESTING A WOMAN IN PUBLIC, FOR HAVING SEX WITH A PORN STAR ON THE NIGHT -- WHILE YOUR WIFE WAS PREGNANT? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAVE THE MORALS OF AN ALLEY CAT. >> Adrienne: OKAY. THAT WAS AN EXCHANGE OF BARBS DURING TONIGHT'S DEBATE. THE STORY OF THIS DEBATE WILL BE JOE BIDEN AND A PERFORMANCE THAT MAY CONFIRM HIS SUPPORTER'S WORST FEARS. SO LET'S BREAKDOWN THE KEY MOMENTS OF THIS DEBATE. OUR SENIOR CORRESPONDENT IS IN Joe Biden's shaky debate performance WASHINGTON, AND BRIAN STELTER, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT FROM VANITY FAIR, JOINS US FROM NEW YORK. BRIAN, I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. JUST WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO WATCH THAT FOR YOU? >> Reporter: IT WAS PAINFUL FOR BIDEN SUPPORTERS WHO THINK HE'S THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB. IT WAS ALSO PAINFUL FOR REPUBLICAN NONTRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE TRUMP RIDE OFF INTO THE SUNSET AND HAND THE REIGNS OVER TO SOMEONE LIKE NIKKI HALEY. NIKKI HALEY IS ON TWITTER TONIGHT, PREDICTING THAT BIDEN WILL NOT BE THE DEMOCRAT ON THE TICKET BY THE FALL, AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ACTIVE CONVERSATIONS IN PARTY CIRCLES ABOUT WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE TO PLACE BIDEN. IT WOULD BE -- REPLACE BIDEN. IT WOULD BE HARD TO DO BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE. HONESTLY, THE LEVELS OF CONCERN, THE LEVELS OF PANIC IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE OFF THE CHARTS TONIGHT. >> Adrienne: PAUL, FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT IN WASHINGTON, WHAT WAS IT LIKE? >> Reporter: WELL, HERE IN THE BUREAU, PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AROUND, WHAT? BECAUSE BIDEN WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT OF THE GATE GANGBUSTERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE NEED TO DO TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THE, HE'S TOO OLD, HE'S TOO FRAGILE STUFF. I DON'T MEAN TO BE MEAN, JUST REALISTIC. HOW CAN DEMOCRATS MAKE THE ARGUMENT BROADLY THAT HE HAS THE REASON TO RUN AGAIN? STATED REASON, AND HE SAID THIS, HE'S THE ONLY TRUMP BEATER OUT THERE. AFTER THIS, EFFECTIVELY SPEAKING, MELTDOWN TONIGHT IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, IT'S LEGIT FOR DEMOCRATS TO FREAK OUT AS BRIAN WAS SAYING, SAYING WE WATCHED YOU, AND THERE'S ONLY FOUR MONTHS TODAY, PLUS IT'S NECK AND NECK, PROBABLY SLANTING BIDEN'S WAY BEFORE TONIGHT, AND THE POLITICAL AMNESIA THAT'S SWEEPING ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AFFECTING TRUMP SUPPORTERS DURING HIS PRESIDENTIAL YEARS. How both campaigns reacted to the debate IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND SOMEONE TO REPLACE HIM AT THIS STAGE? THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT DEMOCRATS ARE ASKING TONIGHT. >> Adrienne: TIA, I SAVED YOU FOR LAST IN THAT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE. YOU WERE IN THE SPIN ROOM AFTER THE DEBATE. I THINK YOU BOLTED THERE AFTER THE DEBATE. HOW DID BOTH PARTIES REACT TO THIS? >> Reporter: SO I THINK MY SPIN AROUND THE SPIN ROOM WAS VERY TELLING. I GOT THERE ABOUT 20 MINUTES AFTER THE DEBATE ENDED. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TRUMP SURROGATES IN THE SPIN ROOM. A COUPLE OF THEM HAD ALREADY LEFT. WHEN I GOT THERE, ONE DEMOCRAT WAS ON THE FLOOR, AND HE WAS TELLING THE MEDIA IT MIGHT BE TIME TO REPLACE BIDEN AS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY PERSON EVEN REMOTELY SPEAKING AS A DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTER AT THAT TIME. NOW, OTHERS WILL COME AND GO, BUT IT IS VERY TELLING THAT DEMOCRATS ARE IN A TOUGH SPOT. NOW I DO WANT TO SAY THERE IS A UNIVERSE THAT MAYBE JOE BIDEN CAN REBOUND FROM THIS AND CONVINCE VOTERS THAT HE JUST HAD A BAD NIGHT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH BECAUSE Trump takes advantage of Biden's stumbles TONIGHT WAS THE NIGHT THAT BIDEN WAS SUPPOSED TO CONVINCE VOTERS TO GIVE HIM A SECOND TERM IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> Adrienne: TIA, ONE DEMOCRAT LEFT IN THE SPIN ROOM TALKING ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S PLAYBOOK, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. >> President Joe Biden: MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON ELIGIBLE WITH WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH COVID -- EXCUSE ME, DEALING WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD TO DO WITH -- LOOK, IF -- WE FINALLY BEAT MEDICARE, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE UNTIL WE GET THE TOTAL BAN ON THE -- THE TOTAL INITIATIVE RELATIVE TO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH MORE BORDER PATROL AND MORE ASYLUM OFFICERS. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> President Donald Trump: I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT HE SAYS AT THE END OF THIS, AND I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS WHAT HE SAID EARLIER. LOOK -- >> Adrienne: TIA, YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER, THAT'S HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WATCH THIS DEBATE. THEY WON'T HAVE WATCHED THE ENTIRE DEBATE, THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH IT IN SNIPPETS LIKE THAT. WHAT'S THE EFFECT OF THAT, DO YOU THINK? >> Reporter: YEAH, IT'S BAD FOR BIDEN, AND IF TRUMP WAS ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A BAD MOMENT FOR BIDEN AND SAY LOOK, THIS GUY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE SAID, HE'S HARD TO FOLLOW. THERE WAS ME IN THE SPIN ROOM TRYING TO FOLLOW BIDEN'S PARTICULAR THOUGHT, AND THAT STATEMENT WAS VERY INDICATIVE OF HIS TROUBLES, LOSING HIS TRAIN OF THOUGHT, LOW ENERGY. NOW, TO BE CLEAR, THERE ARE SNIPPETS WE CAN TAKE OF TRUMP STRUGGLING TO HAVE A COHERENT AND ACCURATE MESSAGE, AS WELL. THOSE WILL BE PLAYED, TOO, BUT IT'S TWO DIFFERENT NARRATIVES ABOUT THESE CANDIDATES, BOTH BAD BUT, AGAIN, PROBABLY MUCH WORSE FOR BIDEN. >> Adrienne: SO TO YOUR POINT, Biden goes after Trump's character WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT A MOMENT THAT SEEMED TO GO RELATIVELY WELL FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> President Joe Biden: THE IDEA THAT I DID ANYTHING WRONG RELATIVE TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OUTRAGEOUS. IT'S SIMPLY A LIE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SEEK RETRIBUTION AGAINST ANY AMERICAN, IT'S WRONG. NO ONE HAS SPOKEN LIKE THAT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, NO PRESIDENT BEFORE. THINK OF ALL THE CIVIL PENALTIES THAT YOU HAVE. HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DO YOU OWE IN CIVIL PENALTIES FOR MOLESTING A WOMAN IN PUBLIC, FOR DOING A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS, FOR HAVING SEX WITH A PORN STAR WHILE YOUR WIFE IS PREGNANT? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU HAVE THE MORALS OF AN ALLEY CAT. >> Adrienne: BRIAN, DOES THAT MOMENT HELP HIM OR IS IT TOO LATE? >> Reporter: IT DOES HELP HIM AROUND THE EDGES, BUT IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE FOR OUR FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS DEPRESSING, IT'S DISPIRITING. THERE ARE MOMENTS THAT BIDEN CAN HIGHLIGHT. THERE ARE MOMENTS THAT HE IMPROVES AS THE DEBATE WENT ON, BUT THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM HAS CALCIFIED, AND IT'S THAT BIDEN DIDN'T DO AS WELL AS TRUMP. BIDEN'S VOTERS HOLD HIM TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN TRUMP'S VOTERS, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM HERE. TRUMP CLAIMS THAT BIDEN WANTS TO QUADRUPLE TAXES ON AMERICANS, AND THAT'S NOT TRUE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, BIDEN DOESN'T Can Biden's campaign turn this around? SEEM TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. >> Adrienne: IT'S JUNE IN AMERICAN POLITICS, AND IT'S NOT UNTIL OCTOBER THAT PEOPLE WIPE THE SLEEP OUT OF THEIR EYES AND REALLY GET INTO IT. SO CAN BIDEN, PRESUMING FOR A MOMENT THAT HE'S NOT REPLACED, WHAT DOES HIS CAMPAIGN DO TO TURN THIS AROUND? >> Reporter: THE GOOD QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN DO, I THINK IS Questions about CNN's debate format MARK. >> Adrienne: TIA, WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS JUST BEFORE WE HAVE TO GO TO BREAK, BUT SOMETHING OCCURS TO ME, AS YOU'RE SITTING IN ATLANTA, THE HOME OF CNN, WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS ARE THERE ABOUT THE FORMAT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SCREAMING AT THE TELEVISION, SAYING THAT'S NOT TRUE, HANG ON, THAT'S NOT TRU. POOR DANIEL DAY, THE CANADIAN WHO HAS WORKED FOR CNN. I DON'T THINK -- HIS FINGERS MUST BE BROKEN FROM TRYING TO FACT CHECK IN REAL-TIME. IS THIS A PROBLEM THAT THERE WAS NO PUSH-BACK? >> Reporter: I MEAN, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT FORMAT, THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE WAYS THAT FORMAT CAN BE MANIPULATED OR THE NOT-SO-STRONG POINTS OF THIS FORMAT. IN ONE WAY, IT DID ALLOW THE CANDIDATES TO BE HEARD. THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO TALK OVER EACH OTHER, THE MODERATORS WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THEIR QUESTIONS, BUT THERE WASN'T THE LIVE FACT CHECKING MAINLY BECAUSE BIDEN WASN'T FACT CHECKING TRUMP. AND THEN, THE MODERATORS WERE PRETTY HANDS OFF. I THINK THERE WILL BE PEOPLE SAYING THEY WISH THE MODERATORS HAD BEEN A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE IN THAT, BUT THAT WASN'T THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS CREATED. THE ENVIRONMENT WAS FOR EACH CANDIDATE TO GET THEIR POINT ACROSS, BUT BECAUSE BIDEN WAS SO WEAK IN THE MOMENT, IT LET TRUMP'S LIES GO UNCHALLENGED, PERHAPS A DIFFERENT FORMAT, MORE URGENCY FROM THE MODERATORS ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS A CHOICE THAT BOTH CANDIDATES, THE FORMAT THAT THEY AGREED TO. >> Adrienne: OKAY. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN SEPTEMBER, IF THERE'S ANOTHER DEBATE BETWEEN THESE TWO [♪♪♪] >> Adrienne: WITH LESS THAN FIVE MONTHS TO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, TONIGHT'S DEBATE MATTERED, SO LET'S GET RIGHT Could the Democrats replace Biden? BACK TO THE ANALYSIS FROM OUR PANEL. TIA, IF I CAN START WITH YOU, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT REPLACING BIDEN, MECHANICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS THERE? IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, HOW WOULD IT HAPPEN? >> Reporter: SO TECHNICALLY BIDEN DOESN'T BECOME THE NOMINEE UNTIL THE DELEGATES MAKE THEIR VOTES OFFICIAL DURING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, WHICH IS IN AUGUST, SO THERE IS A MECHANISM WHEREAS THESE DELEGATES CAN DECIDE TO VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE, NOT BIDEN. NOW THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE BIDEN HAS ALREADY WON PRIMARIES IN NEARLY ALL 50 STATES. JUST A HANDFUL STILL HAVEN'T DONE SO, SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE WILL BE A CONVERSATION IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ABOUT GETTING STATES TO TALK TO THEIR VOTERS AND KIND OF START THE PROCESS OF FREEING THE DELEGATES TO SELECT OTHER CANDIDATES. SO IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY UNPRECEDENTED, AND IT WOULD BE PRETTY CHAOTIC ON THE CONVENTION FLOOR IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, AND IT WOULD LEAVE A LOT OF VOTERS, QUITE FRANKLY, DISENFRANCHISED THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAD A PRIMARY. BIDEN IS OUR STATE'S CANDIDATE. BIDEN HAS WON EVERY STATE, WE DON'T WANT TO REPLACE HIM. SO IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT WOULD BE A ROUGH GO WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> Adrienne: WELL, THAT CERTAINLY EXPLAINS SOME OF THE CLAIMS ON-LINE, SOME OF THE EARLY TWEETS THAT SIMPLY SAY RELEASE THE DELEGATES. THAT'S CLEARLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> Reporter: YEAH. >> Adrienne: BRIAN -- >> Reporter: AND AGAIN, THE DELEGATES ARE BOUND, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ASSIGNED, BUT THEY COULD MAYBE GO ROGUE -- NOT GO ROGUE, BUT THEY COULD MAYBE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IT'LL BE DIFFICULT. >> Adrienne: SO BRIAN, YOU The lasting impact of this debate KNOW, THE MOMENT AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS, PEOPLE ARE OFTEN VERY REACTIVE AND VERY QUICK AND VERY PASSIONATE. >> Reporter: YES. >> Adrienne: AND THEN, THEY GO TO BED AND WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND GO, IN THE LIGHT OF DAY, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. WHAT IS YOUR GUT ABOUT WHAT THE LIGHT OF DAY WILL TELL US ABOUT THIS THING? >> Reporter: I THINK THE LIGHT OF DAY TELLS US THAT BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE SO SUPREMELY FLAWED, BUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ON BOARD WITH TRUMP AND ALL OF HIS DEMAGOGUERY, ALL OF THE NONSENSE THAT COMES OUT OF HIS MOUTH. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOT WITH BIDEN IN THE SAME WAY, EVEN THOUGH THEY VERY MUCH WANT TO REELECT BIDEN. BUT WHAT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HAVE BEEN TOLD IS BIDEN IS THE ONE WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP. TONIGHT, THEY'RE SAYING THAT PERHAPS WE'VE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS, THAT BIDEN IS NOT THE PERSON TO BEAT TRUMP. IT'LL ALL COME DOWN TO TWO PEOPLE: OBAMA AND JILL BIDEN. TONIGHT'S DIFFERENT, THOUGH, BECAUSE OF THE TENOR OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE EXTENT OF THAT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM. YOU HAVE REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, WHO ARE UNITED IN THEIR VIEW THAT THIS WAS NOT GOOD FOR BIDEN WHEN HE WANTED TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE. HE HAS CHANGED THE NARRATIVE BUT IN A WAY THAT HAS HURT HIM. >> Adrienne: PAUL, I HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS. SORRY ABOUT THAT, FRIEND, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE DEBATE THAT SUGGESTS TO YOU WHO DONALD TRUMP MIGHT PICK, WHO HE MIGHT PICK TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE? >> Reporter: YEAH, MARCO RUBIO, J.D. VANCE. I WANT TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING, AND THAT'S CAN JOE BIDEN LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM. BEFORE, HE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE HE THINKS HE'S THE GUY TO BEAT TRUMP. MAYBE NOW HE CAN BE CONVINCED THAT HE HIMSELF IS NOT THE GUY, AND THAT WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING. >> Adrienne: BRIAN STELTER, TIA MITCHELL, PAUL HUNTER, THANKS SO MUCH. >> Reporter: THANKS. >> Adrienne: COMING UP, SOME STUNNING PHOTOS OF A VERY RARE BIRD, A LITTLE RELIEF. >> AND I SEE THE BIRD COMING UP, TheMoment | Rare white loon . >> Adrienne: OKAY. SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT A RARE WHITE LOON, AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE SHOTS THAT THE AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER CHRIS WOODY CAPTURED WHILE OUT FOR AN EARLY MORNING PADDLE ON A SERENE B.C. LAKE. SO THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL AND SYMBOLIC ANIMAL MEANING SO MUCH TO SO MANY CANADIANS. TONIGHT, CHRIS WOODY'S RARE WHITE LOON, THIS MOMENT OF PEACE, IS OUR "MOMENT." >> THE FIRST TIME I RAN INTO THAT ALONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS A BIT OF A DISTANCE OFF, AND IT WAS WHITE, AND I'M THINKING, THAT'S A LOON OF SOME KIND BUT IT'S DIFFERENT. I STARTED TAKING SOME PICTURES, AND IT TOOK OFF. I DIDN'T SEE IT AGAIN, SO I THOUGHT OKAY, THAT'S ONCE IN A MILLION. OFF YOU GO. SO, YOU KNOW, I GET HOME, AND I'M GOOGLING "WHITE LOON," AND IT CAME UP, ONE IN 30,000. FAST FORWARD TO THIS SPRING, PULL AROUND THE CORNER, OH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF LOONS, AND THEN, I SEE THE WHITE ONE, AND I GET REALLY EXCITED. SO I TAKE MY CAMERA, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, AND THEY START DOING THE THING WITH THEIR WINGS, THEIR TYPICAL CALL STUFF, BUT NOW I'VE GOT THE WHITE ONE DOING IT. IT'S LIKE A LOTTERY WINNER TWICE IN ONE WEEK. >> Adrienne: HIS ENTHUSIASM COMBINED WITH THE SERENITY OF THOSE IMAGES AND WHAT THE MORNING MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE IS KIND OF THE ANTIDOTE TO A DAY LIKE THIS FULL OF ANXIETY FOR OUR NEIGHBOURS SOUTH OF THE BORDER. >>> AND THAT'S IT FOR US. FOR NEWS ANY TIME, YOU CAN HEAD TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL OR