CBC News: The National | Trump-Harris U.S. presidential debate

The National for September 10, 2024 (♪♪) >> Adrienne: TONIGHT A TENSE PRIMETIME FACE-OFF. DONALD TRUMP VERSUS KAMALA HARRIS IN WHAT MAY BE THEIR ONLY DEBATE. >> Kamala Harris: THE GOVERNMENT AND DONALD TRUMP, CERTAINLY, SHOULD NOT BE TELLING A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. >> Adrienne: THEY SPARRED OVER POLICY, POLITICS, AND PERSONALITY. >> Donald Trump: IN MINNESOTA -- SHE WENT OUT -- WAIT A MINUTE, I'M TALKING NOW. IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? >> Adrienne: WE BREAK DOWN THE BIG MOMENTS AND THE STRATEGY BEHIND THEM AND HOW IT COULD ALL PLAY WITH UNDECIDED VOTERS. >> GET OUT! >> DAMN. >> Adrienne: THE NEW POLICE BODY CAMERA VIDEO RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW OFFICERS TREATED AN NFL STAR. >> I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS PLATFORM TO SAY, LIKE, WHAT IF I WASN'T TYREEK HILL, BRO? >> Adrienne:THE TRAFFIC STOP REIGNITING A CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE AND POLICING. >>> SPACEX LAUNCHES A CHALLENGING NEW MISSION, THE FIRST COMMERCIAL SPACEWALK. >> THEY'RE CONCENTRATING ALMOST 110% TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES. >> Adrienne: THE FOUR ASTRONAUTS GOING WHERE NO CIVILIAN HAS GONE BEFORE. (♪♪) >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS, THIS IS "THE NATIONAL," WITH CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. (♪♪) >> Adrienne: TONIGHT WITH THE Trump-Harris U.S. presidential debate STAKES INCREDIBLY HIGH, DONALD TRUMP AND KAMALA HARRIS SQUARED OFF IN THEIR FIRST AND POTENTIALLY ONLY PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. IT WAS A NIGHT OF VERY TENSE EXCHANGES, PERSONAL ATTACKS, AND AT TIMES FRUSTRATION FROM A CLEARLY RATTLED TRUMP. >> Kamala Harris: I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU TO ATTEND ONE OF DONALD TRUMP'S RALLIES BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING THING TO WATCH. HE WILL TALK ABOUT WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER AND WHAT YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE START LEAVING HIS RALLIES EARLY OUT OF EXHAUSTION AND BOREDOM. >> Donald Trump: SHE SAID THAT PEOPLE START LEAVING -- PEOPLE DON'T GO TO HER RALLIES, THERE IS NO REASON TO GO. PEOPLE DON'T LEAVE OUR RALLIES. AND WE HAVE THE MOST INCREDIBLE RALLIES IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICS. >> Adrienne: ONE OF SEVERAL MOMENTS THAT STOOD OUT TONIGHT AS BOTH HARRIS AND TRUMP TRIED TO MAKE THEIR MARK WITH UNDECIDED VOTERS WITH JUST EIGHT WEEKS UNTIL ELECTION DAY AND THE RACE APPEARING TO BE A DEAD HEAT. SO PAUL HUNTER IS IN PHILADELPHIA FOR US TONIGHT. PAUL, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR SENSE OF HOW THINGS WENT, WHAT IT FELT LIKE, THE MOMENTS THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU? >> Reporter: YEAH, THIS WAS KAMALA HARRIS ON OFFENCE, ADRIENNE. THIS WAS THE CANDIDATE, I THINK THAT IT IS FAIR TO SAY, THAT THE DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTERS IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE NOTED TO SEE, SOMEONE WHO IS CAPABLE OF TAKING ON DONALD TRUMP IN A WAY THAT JOE BIDEN, CERTAINLY IN RECENT MONTHS, WAS NOT ABLE TO DO. KAMALA HARRIS WENT HARD AGAINST DONALD TRUMP ON A LONG LIST OF FRONTS. IT STARTED OUT WITH A HANDSHAKE -- KAMALA HARRIS WALKING ACROSS THE STAGE TO SAY HELLO TO DONALD TRUMP. THEY HAD NEVER MET BEFORE. THIS WAS THEIR FIRST DEBATE OBVIOUSLY AS WELL. AND THEN THE NICETIES VERY QUICKLY WENT AWAY. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY VERY BRIEFLY OFF THE TOP. SOON ENOUGH TURNING TO WHAT MANY HAVE DEEMED ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF KAMALA HARRIS -- AND THAT IS REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP FROM HER ON THAT AS SHE TOOK IT TO TRUMP ON ABORTION RIGHTS. >> Kamala Harris: DONALD TRUMP CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE TELLING A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. I HAVE TALKED WITH WOMEN AROUND OUR COUNTRY. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED -- PREGNANT WOMEN WHEN WANT TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM, SUFFERING FROM A MISCARRIAGE AND BEING DENIED CARE IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GO TO JAIL AND SHE'S BLEEDING OUT IN A CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. SHE DIDN'T WANT THAT. >> Reporter: OVER THE COURSE OF THE DEBATE, ADRIENNE, SHE USED HER TIME TO GO AFTER TRUMP ON TOPIC AFTER TOPIC AFTER TOPIC. HE VERY QUICKLY BEGAN TO APPEAR TO BE AGITATED AND WAGGING HIS FINGER AT TIMES, CALLING HER NAMES, MARXIST, RADICAL LEFT LIBERAL. WHEN HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS PERSPECTIVE THAT UNDER DEMOCRATS, THE CRIME RATES HAD GONE UP, KAMALA HARRIS HAD THIS RHETORIC TO THAT. >> Kamala Harris: I THINK THAT THIS IS SO RICH, COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN PROSECUTED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY CRIMES, ECONOMIC CRIMES, ELECTION INTERFERENCE. HAS BEEN FOUND LIABLE FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HIS NEXT BIG COURT APPEARANCES IN NOVEMBER AT HIS OWN CRIMINAL SENTENCING. >> Reporter: IT'S CLEAR, ADRIENNE, THAT KAMALA HARRIS WAS PREPARED AND SHE HAD HER LIST OF SUBJECT MATTERS THAT SHE WANTED TO TAKE DONALD TRUMP TO TASK UPON. AND ONE BY ONE BY ONE BY ONE BY ONE TONIGHT SHE SEEMED TO DO THAT. DONALD TRUMP HAD HIS, AND AT ONE POINT RAISING THE ISSUE THAT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT HAD -- FOR THE MOMENT, RATHER, THAT MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT HAD CHANGED THIS CAMPAIGN WHEN HE WAS SHOT AT THAT RALLY IN BUTLER, PENNSYLVANIA. HERE IS A CLIP OF TRUMP TALKING ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF REFERENCING WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS THE WEAPONIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AGAINST HIM BY DEMOCRATS. HERE IT IS. >> Donald Trump: THIS IS THE ONE THAT WEAPONIZED -- NOT ME. SHE WEAPONIZED. I PROBABLY TOOK A BULLET TO THE HEAD BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SAY ABOUT ME. THEY TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY -- I'M A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. THEY'RE THE THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. >> Adrienne: YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ZINGERS, IF YOU WILL, RIGHT, OF GOOD LINES. THEY BOTH LANDED A LOT OF LINES. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU PROBABLY, I HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO SAY JUST CASUALLY HOW DID IT GO. AND I'M NOT -- I'M NOT SEEING IN JUST ANECDOTALLY PEOPLE TALKING TO ME OR EVEN PEOPLE ONLINE SAYING THAT THERE WAS A CLEAR, CLEAR WINNER BECAUSE THE AMERICANS LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? SOME ARE LOOKING AT IT FOR POLICY AND SOME ARE LOOKING AT IT FOR FEEL. WHERE YOU ARE IN PHILADELPHIA, IS THERE ANY FEEL ABOUT A CLEAR WINNER? >> Reporter: KEEP IN MIND, ADRIENNE, THAT FEELINGS ARE SO BAKED IN. AND WE COME TO THESE DEBATES AND THINKING THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE. THAT IT WOULD TAKE ONE ZINGER OR ONE POLICY BEING DESCRIBED OR ONE VIBE EXPRESSED TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS. THAT'S -- IN THIS COUNTRY AT THIS TIME, THE HARD TRUTH IS THAT IS A HARD ASK, RIGHT. THINGS ARE -- OPINIONS ARE LONG DECIDED, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THINGS TRUMP, RIGHT? THE IDEA OF HARRIS -- THIS ENERGY AND THIS ENTHUSIASM THAT SHE'S BROUGHT TO THE DEMOCRAT SIDE IS A REAL THING, RIGHT? THAT IS A REAL THING. WE'VE SEEN THE RESULTS OF THAT ASS AS THE RACE TIGHTENED FROM WHAT SEEMED TO BE A TRUMP WALK A FEW WEEKS AGO TO A NECK-AND-NECK RACE. I WILL SAY ONE MORE TIME THAT IT COMES DOWN -- THE REASON THAT YOU DON'T HEAR FROM PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR MINDS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MANY OF THEM BUT THEY DO EXIST. WE WILL HEAR IN THE DAYS AHEAD WHETHER THIS REACHED ANY OF THEM. IT IS ON THEM THAT THIS RACE POTENTIALLY WILL HINGE IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S WHO KAMALA HARRIS WAS TALKING TO TONIGHT. SHE WANTED TO REMIND THEM OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP WAS LIKE, THAT THE DONALD TRUMP OF 2016-2020, RIGHT AFTER JANUARY 6TH 2021 -- THAT WAS HER INTENT TONIGHT TO SAY, HEY, REMEMBER THAT GUY? THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN YOU HEAD TO THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER. >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, PAUL HUNTER AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT. PAUL HUNTER IN PHILADELPHIA TONIGHT. SO WE HAVE MORE SPECIAL DEBATE COVERAGE COMING UP IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES FROM NOW AND OUR POLITICAL PANEL WILL BE HERE TO BREAK DOWN HOW THE BIG MOMENTS OF THE NIGHT MIGHT SWAY SOME UNDECIDED VOTERS. >>> TURNING TO OTHER NEWS NOW, Tyreek Hill traffic cop bodycam footage NEWLY RELEASED BODY CAMERA VIDEO IS RAISING SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT RACE AND POLICING IN THE UNITED STATES. STAR NFL PLAYER TYREEK HILL WAS PULLED OVER AND DETAINED ON FLORIDA ON THE WAY TO A SEASON OPENER. JAMIE STRASHIN SHOWS US THE VIDEO AND THE REACTION. >> Reporter: HOURS BEFORE KICKOFF, THE MIAMI DOLPHINS' STAR WIDE RECEIVER TYREEK HILL WAS PULLED OVER FOR RECKLESS DRIVING. THINGS QUICKLY SPIRALLED. HE HANDED THE OFFICERS HIS LICENCE AND ROLLED UP THE TINTED WINDOW OF HIS HIGH END SPORTS CAR. >> KEEP YOUR WINDOW DOWN. KEEP YOUR WINDOW DOWN OR I'M GOING TO GET YOU OUT OF THE CAR. AS A MATTER OF FACT, GET OUT OF THE CAR. GET OUT. GET OUT! >> DAMN. >> Reporter: NEWLY RELEASED BODYCAM FOOTAGE SHOWS THE POLICE RIPPING HILL OUT OF THE CAR. >> WHEN WE TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING, YOU DO IT, YOU UNDERSTAND? YOU UNDERSTAND. NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WHAT WE TELL YOU. >> Reporter: HE'S FORCED TO THE GROUND AND HANDCUFFED. >> [MULTIPLE VOICES] >> Reporter: HILL WAS NEVER ARRESTED AND EVENTUALLY GIVEN TWO TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND RELEASED. >> I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS PLATFORM TO SAY, LIKE, WHAT IF I WASN'T TYREEK HILL, BRO. >> Reporter: HIS TEAM WENT FURTHER AND SAYING IT'S MADDENING AND HEARTBREAKING TO WATCH THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WE TRUST TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY TO USE SUCH UNNECESSARY FORCE AND HOSTILITY. ONE OFFICER HAS ALREADY BEEN PLACED ON LEAVE AND AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION IS UNDERWAY. THE POLICE UNION DEFENDED THE OFFICERS' ACTIONS SAYING THAT MR. HILL WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY COOPERATIVE WITH OFFICERS WHO FEARING FOR THEIR IMMEDIATE SAFETY PLACED MR. HILL IN HANDCUFFS. >> I'M BEING ARRESTED. >> Reporter: THE VIDEO HAS REIGNITED DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT IS OFTEN CALLED "DRIVING WHILE BLACK." >> IS THERE ANY WAY THAT AN OLD WHITE WOMAN ROLLS UP THEIR WINDOW AND IS MET WITH THAT RESPONSE? >> Reporter: THIS EXPERT SAYS THAT THE FACT THAT HILL IS BLACK CAN'T BE IGNORED. >> ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS, AND, AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE THAT ESCALATION FROM THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON BEHIND THE WHEEL. >> NO NEED TO ESCALATE. >> Reporter: THIS RETIRED OFFICER AGREES, BUT ALSO SAYS THAT POLICE SAFETY CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED. >> I COULD IMMEDIATELY RELATE WITH THEIR CONCERNS -- SAFETY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DARK TINTED WINDOWS. THE TACTICS I UNDERSTAND, HOWEVER, THE INTENSITY OF THOSE TACTICS DID NOT MEET THAT OCCASION. >> Reporter: HILL DID MAKE IT TO THE GAME, SCORING A KEY TOUCHDOWN. THE CELEBRATION IS A NOD TO THE POLICE ENCOUNTER. JAMIE STRASHIN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Ian: BACK IN CANADA THAT THE Mark Carney addresses Liberal caucus MAN THAT MANY SPECULATED THAT COULD REPLACE JUSTIN TRUDEAU MADE HIS FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS AS A TOP LIBERAL ADVISOR ON ECONOMIC GROWTH. MARK CARNEY, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF THE BANK OF CANADA APPEARED TODAY AT THE CAUCUS RETREAT. BUT AS RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN SHOWS US, HE WOULDN'T REVEAL MUCH ABOUT HIS POLITICAL FUTURE. >> Reporter: FOR MONTHS, MARK CARNEY DODGED QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS FUTURE WITH THE LIBERALS. NOW THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF CENTRAL BANKS IN CANADA AND ENGLAND IS THE PARTY'S TOP ADVISOR ON ECONOMIC GROWTH. >> IT COMES, IN MY VIEW, AT A DECISIVE TIME FOR OUR ECONOMY, FOR OUR COUNTRY. EVERY MAJOR ECONOMY IS ACCELERATING THEIR ENERGY TRANSITION AND BEING LOW CARBON IS BECOMING THE KEY DRIVER OF COMPETITIVENESS. >> Reporter: CARNEY WOULDN'T RESPOND TO SPECULATION THAT HE MIGHT BE SEEKING THE PARTY LEADERSHIP OR A SEAT IN THE NEXT FEDERAL ELECTION. >> THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA ASKED ME TO DO SOMETHING AND I WILL DO IT -- I WILL SERVE, TO THE BEST OF MY -- TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. SECONDLY, I'M INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING, NOT BEING SOMETHING. >> Reporter: SHORING UP VOTER SUPPORT IS TOP OF MIND HERE. THE KEY TEST COMES IN LESS THAN A WEEK, A LONG-STANDING LIBERAL SEAT IS UP FOR GRABS IN A MONTRÉAL BY-ELECTION WITH THE LIBERALS AND THE N.D.P. AND THE BLOC QUÉBÉCOIS RUNNING ALMOST NECK-AND-NECK. >> I AM CONVINCED THAT WE WILL WIN. >> Reporter: THE N.D.P. LEADER CAMPAIGNED IN THAT RIDING AFTER HIS CAUCUS MET TO CONSIDER IN PART HOW TO APPROACH THE CONFIDENCE VOTE THAT COULD BRING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. NOW THAT HIS PARTY HAS ABANDONED THE AGREEMENT TO KEEP THE LIBERALS IN POWER. >> WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A NEW AGREEMENT. SO WE HAVE TORN UP THE AGREEMENT AND THERE IS NO NEW DEAL. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT PARLIAMENT IS WE'LL FIGHT FOR PEOPLE. >> Reporter: BUT THE LIBERALS MAY GET SUPPORT FROM THE BLOC. >> Reporter: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GETTING ALL OF THIS ADDITIONAL POWER? >> GOOD. THANK YOU. >> Reporter: THAT INSTABILITY ALSO MEANS TRUDEAU MAY NOT HAVE A FULL YEAR LEFT BEFORE ALL CANADIANS HEAD BACK TO THE POLLS. MAKING WHATEVER STRATEGY HIS PARTY ADVISES HERE ALL THE MORE CRUCIAL FOR THEIR SURVIVAL IN THE MONTHS AHEAD. RAFFY BOUDJIKANIAN, CBC NEWS, NANAIMO, B.C. >> Adrienne: THE IMMIGRATION MINISTER NOW CONFIRMS THAT A PAKISTANI Suspect entered Canada on student visa NATIONAL ARRESTED LAST WEEK ON TERROR CHARGES ENTERED CANADA USING A STUDENT VISA. >> HE WAS GRANTED A STUDENT VISA IN MAY 2023 AND HE ENTERED AT PEARSON AIRPORT ON JUNE 24TH. >> Adrienne: MUHAMMAD SHAHZEB KHAN IS ACCUSED OF PLOTTING TO ENTER THE U.S. AND TO ATTACK A JEWISH CENTRE IN BROOKLYN. CANADIAN AUTHORITIES DETAINED HIM IN QUÉBEC NEAR THE U.S. BORDER. HE FACES CHARGES IN BOTH COUNTRIES. Israel strikes Gaza ‘safe zone’ >>> IN GAZA, PALESTINIAN OFFICIALS SAY THAT AT LEAST 19 PEOPLE ARE DEAD AND DOZENS ARE INJURED AFTER ISRAEL'S EARLY MORNING STRIKE ON A HUMANITARIAN SAFE ZONE. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DISPLACED PEOPLE WERE SHELTERING THERE. BUT ISRAEL'S MILITARY SAYS THAT THE SENIOR HAMAS MILITANTS WERE HIDING AMONG THEM. CHRIS BROWN SHOWS US THE DEVASTATING RESULTS. >> Reporter: ISRAEL'S LATEST STRIKE IN GAZA INVOLVED BLASTING A GIANT CRATER IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ENCAMPMENT OF TENTS BESIDE A GAZA BEACH. THE ATTACK KILLED AND WOUNDED DOZENS OF PALESTINIANS, BUT IT WAS ONLY BY DAYLIGHT THAT ITS HORRIFIC SCOPE WAS REVEALED. 12-YEAR-OLD ROSEANNE ALFAD WAS CRUSHED BY DEBRIS. >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Reporter: "THE TENT FELL ON US AND MY MOTHER WAS INJURED," SHE SAID, "I DON'T KNOW WHICH HOSPITAL SHE'S IN. AND MY BROTHER DIED. MAY HE REST IN PEACE." >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Reporter: "WE PULLED OUR CHILDREN OUT. THEY WERE ALL BURIED UNDER THE SAND," SHE SAID, "DEATH SURROUNDS US IN EVERY PLACE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. WHERE WILL WE GO?" ISRAEL'S MILITARY HAD DESIGNATED THIS A SAFE ZONE, BUT IT SAID THAT THREE SENIOR HAMAS MILITANTS ESTABLISHED A HEADQUARTERS THERE SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO HIT THEM WITH WHAT THEY CALLED PRECISE MUNITIONS. >> THE GOVERNMENT CAN CONFIRM THESE TERRORISTS WERE DIRECTLY INVOLVED AND DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE OCTOBER 7TH MASSACRE. >> Reporter: IN A STATEMENT, HAMAS DENIED THAT ITS MEMBERS WERE IN THE AREA, SAYING THAT ISRAEL'S GOVERNMENT WAS JUST TRYING TO JUSTIFY HEINOUS CRIMES. AID GROUPS HAVE REPEATEDLY ACCUSED ISRAEL'S MILITARY OF NOT PRIORITIZING THE SAFETY OF CIVILIANS, AND THERE WAS MORE SUCH CONDEMNATION AFTER THIS STRIKE. >> WHEN WE HAVE CHILDREN BEING KILLED AND FAMILIES BEING DESTROYED AND DISAPPEARED FROM THE REGISTRIES, IT IS A CLEAR SIGN THAT SOMETHING IS NOT GOING RIGHT. >> Reporter: AS HE ARRIVED IN THE U.K., THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE DID NOT MENTION THE DEATHS IN GAZA BUT HE DID ISSUE A REBUKE TO ISRAEL. AMERICAN TURKISH ACTIVIST AYSENUR EZGI EYGI WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD BY AN ISRAELI SNIPER WHILE AT A PROTEST ON FRIDAY. ISRAEL SAYS THAT SHE WAS HIT UNINTENTIONALLY. BLINKEN CALLED HER DEATH UNACCEPTABLE AND UNJUSTIFIED. >> IN OUR JUDGMENT, THE ISRAELI SECURITY FORCES NEED TO MAKE SOME FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES IN THE WAY THEY OPERATE IN THE WEST BANK, INCLUDING CHANGES TO THEIR RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. >> Reporter: IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE OVERNIGHT ATTACKS, LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES SAID THAT THE DEATH TOLL IN GAZA HAS NOW SURPASSED MORE THAN 41,000 DEAD OVER THE PAST 11 MONTHS, WITH 90% OF GAZA'S POPULATION DISPLACED. CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, LONDON. China quietly ends foreign adoptions >> Adrienne: SOME CANADIAN FAMILIES ARE IN LIMBO TONIGHT AFTER CHINA ABRUPTLY BANNED MOST FOREIGN ADOPTIONS. AS IDIL MUSSA TELLS US, THE POLICY SHIFT MARKS A SETBACK FOR THOSE NAVIGATING THE ADOPTION PROCESS. >> Reporter: MICHELLE LeBLANC'S FAMILY MOVED TO A BIGGER HOME IN TROIS-RIVIÉRES IN ANTICIPATION OF A NEW FAMILY MEMBER. THEY HAD ALREADY ADOPTED TWO CHILDREN FROM CHINA, AND NOW THEIR HOPES OF ADOPTING ANOTHER ARE DASHED. >> [Speaking French] >> Reporter: "THE WAY THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED TO US WITHOUT ANY CONSIDERATION, IT'S INHUMANE," SHE SAYS. LeBLANC FOUND OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT CHINA WAS ENDING ITS INTERNATIONAL ADOPTION PROGRAMME. >> [Speaking French] >> Reporter: "IT'S A LOT OF FINANCIAL STRESS. IT IS EMOTIONAL STRESS," SHE SAYS, "BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE GRANDPARENTS YOU WON'T HAVE A BABY." CHINA'S FOREIGN MINISTRY DIDN'T PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION. BIRTHS IN THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN PLUMMETING FOR DECADES BECAUSE OF CHINA'S ONE CHILD POLICY. THAT POLICY ENDED IN 2016, AND CHINESE COUPLES ARE NOW ALLOWED TO HAVE UP TO THREE CHILDREN. >> POPULATION DYNAMICS IN CHINA IS ALWAYS AS MUCH A DEMOGRAPHIC ISSUE AS IT'S A POLITICAL ONE. DOMESTIC ADOPTION OR INTERNATIONAL ADOPTION IS INEVITABLY FLAWED AND IT TOUCHES ON SOME OF THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS OF HUMAN CONDITIONS, LIKE WHO GETS RECOGNISED AND WHO GETS COUNTED. >> Reporter: IN CANADA ADOPTEES FROM CHINA ARE ALSO TRYING TO PROCESS WHAT THIS NEWS MEANS. >> IT DOES FEEL LIKE THE END OF AN ERA AND MAYBE IN SOME WAYS THAT IS GOOD, BECAUSE THERE IS LESS OF A NEED FOR CHILDREN TO BE ADOPTED. >> Reporter: ROTTENBERG HOPES CHINA'S NEW RULE ON FOREIGN ADOPTIONS WILL NOT MAKE IT HARDER FOR ADOPTEES LIKE HER TO FIND THEIR BIRTH PARENTS. WHILE FOR MICHELLE LeBLANC THE DREAM OF EXPANDING HER FAMILY -- >> [Speaking French] >> Reporter: "IT'S HARD TO KILL THE HOPE IN YOUR HEART," SHE SAYS BUT AT THE GIVEN MOMENT AS I HAD MANS THERE ARE LIMITS TO THE GRIEF THAT ONE CAN ENDURE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH CONTACTS IN CHINA TO REVIEW THE COUNTRY'S NEW POLICY. IDIL MUSSA, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: MUSICIAN JACOB Jacob Hoggard asks to be released on bail HOGGARD WHO IS SERVING A FIVE-YEAR SENTENCE FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT IS ASKING TO BE RELEASED ON BAIL. A LAWYER FOR THE FORMER LEAD SINGER OF HEADLEY TOLD AN ONTARIO COURTROOM TODAY THAT BAIL WAS APPROPRIATE AS HOGGARD TRIES TO APPEAL HIS CONVICTION TO THE SUPREME COURT OF CANADA. IN A COURT FILING HOGGARD SAID THAT HE IS BEING HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AFTER RECEIVING THREATS. THE JUSTICE RESERVED HER DECISION UNTIL LATER THIS WEEK. >>> WELL, COMING UP THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA IN SPACE EXPLORATION. >> 4, 3, 2, 1... IGNITION. >> Adrienne: SPACEX'S POLARIS DAWN BLASTS OFF ONBOARD AN ALL CIVILIAN CREW. THE MISSION IS A RISKY ONE, THE FIRST EVER PRIVATE SPACEWALK. PLUS... >> WHILE WE KNEW THAT IT WAS COMING, SO WE'VE BEEN PRETTY EXCITED. >> Adrienne: THE HIGHLY COVETED MICHELIN RESTAURANT GUIDE IS BRINGING ITS STAR SYSTEM TO QUÉBEC, BUT NOT EVERYONE IS EATING IT UP. WE'RE BACK IN TWO. (♪♪) Hurricane Francine nears Louisiana >> Adrienne: FRANCINE HAS NOW REACHED HURRICANE STATUS AS IT PLOWS TOWARDS THE U.S. GULF COAST. LOUISIANA WILL LIKELY BE HIT HARDEST. THE STATE HAS ALREADY CLOSED SCHOOLS AND ISSUED EVACUATION ORDERS AND DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY. AND PREPARATION FOR LANDFALL IS Crew battle wildfires in Southern California ON WEDNESDAY. >>> AND CREWS ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE SCRAMBLING TO CONTAIN SEVERAL MAJOR WILDFIRES JUST EAST OF LOS ANGELES. THOUSANDS REMAIN UNDER MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS AS THE MASSIVE LINE FIRE THREATENS HUNDREDS OF HOMES AND BUSINESSES, AFTER QUADRUPLING IN SIZE AND IT'S NOW ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE STATE. SpaceX commercial spacewalk mission >>> WELL, A CREW ABOARD SPACEX'S LATEST MISSION IS IN ORBIT TONIGHT, GOING WHERE NO ONE HAS GONE IN DECADES. AND AS NICOLE MORTILLARO TELLS US, THEY'LL BE ATTEMPTING SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE -- A PRIVATELY FUNDED SPACE WALK. >> 3, 2, 1... LIFTOFF... >> Reporter: THE LATEST MISSION KNOWN AS POLARIS DAWN IS AMBITIOUS. A CREW OF FOUR CIVILIAN ASTRONAUTS WITH A RISKY JOB -- THE FIRST COMMERCIAL SPACEWALK FROM A SPACEX CAPSULE. >> IT'S BEEN A REALLY EXCITING JOURNEY. >> Reporter:ONBOARD IS BILLION AREA AND ENTREPRENEUR JARED ISAACMAN, RETIRED MILITARY PILOT KIDD POTEET AND SARAH GILLIS AND ANNA MENON. THEY'RE SET FOR A FIVE-DAY MENTION, VENDURING AS FAR AS 1,400 KILOMETRES FROM EARTH, THE FARTHEST THAT HUMANS HAVE BEEN SINCE APOLLO IN 1972. ON DAY THREE, TWO OF THE CREW WILL ATTEMPT THE SPACEWALK IN NEW STREAMLINED SUITS, INCLUDING JARED ISAACMAN. >> IT WILL LOOK LIKE WE'RE DOING A BIT OF A DANCE AND WHAT THAT IS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF METRICS ON THE SUIT AND THE IDEA IS TO LEARN AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> Reporter: FOR THE SPACEWALK THERE'S NO AIRLOCK ONBOARD, INSTEAD, THE ENTIRE SPACECRAFT WILL BE DEPRESSURIZED AND EXPOSED TO THE VACUUM OF SPACE. RETIRED CANADIAN ASTRONAUT DAVE WILLIAMS, WHO HAS LOGGED 17 HOURS ON THREE DIFFERENT SPACEWALKS SAYS THIS MISSION IS CHALLENGING. BUT IN SOME WAYS IT'S A THROWBACK. >> THIS REALLY TAKES US BACK TO THE DAWN OF SPACEWALKING, AND THE ASTRONAUT WENT OUTSIDE AND USING AN UMBILICAL TETHER WHICH RESTRICTED THEIR MOBILITY A LITTLE BIT COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR LIFE SUPPORT SYSTEMS ON THE BACK OF THE SPACE STATION SPACESUITS. >> Reporter: IT'S AN AMBITIOUS ENDEAVOUR, BUT ONE THAT IS LOOKED AS A POTENTIAL STEP IN THE HUMAN EXPLORATION OF SPACE. >> TO SEE SPACEX SENDING ASTRONAUTS INTO SPACE AND DOING THESE HIGH ALTITUDE MISSIONS AND DOING THE FIRST PRIVATE SPACEWALK IS THE NEXT STEP IN A VERY IMPORTANT JOURNEY. [APPLAUSE] >> THE SECOND STAGE -- >> Reporter: A JOURNEY THAT BOTH SPACEX AND NASA HOPE THAT WILL SEE HUMANS ON MARS. NICOLE MORTILLARO, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne:WELL, THE MICHELIN GUIDE WILL SOON BE HANDING OUT STARS TO SOME QUÉBEC RESTAURANTS. >> I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT YOU GO INTO A RESTAURANT AND THEN THEY'RE CLICKING THE BOX. >> Adrienne: WHY SOME WORRY ABOUT HOW IT COULD CHANGE THE CITY'S Raygun ranked No. 1 breaker in the world [♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪] >> Adrienne: THERE SHE IS, AUSTRALIAN BREAKDANCER RACHEL GUNN KNOWN ALSO AS RAY GUN WHO WENT VIRAL AFTER THAT UNUSUAL OLYMPIC ROUTINE IS NOW RANKED THE WORLD'S NUMBER ONE IN HER SPORT. HOW? THAT RANKING IS A RESULT OF MULTIPLE COMPETITIONS, MANY WHICH OTHER BREAKERS DIDN'T COMPETE IN AND THE OLYMPICS WEREN'T INCLUDED. Michelin stars coming to Quebec >>> RESTAURANTS IN QUÉBEC NOW FACE A NEW MEASURE OF EXCELLENCE -- THE WORLD FAMOUS MICHELIN GUIDE HAS ADDED THAT PROVINCE TO THE LIST OF REGIONS AND CITIES WHERE IT TESTS AND RANKS THE VERY FINEST OF DINING SPOTS. SARAH LEAVITT ASKS HOW THAT FRESH SCRUTINY MIGHT GO OVER. >> Reporter: IT'S LONG BEEN THE BENCHMARK FOR FINE DINING, THE MICHELIN GUIDE CREATED IN 1900 AS A TRAVEL GUIDEBOOK, EVER SINCE CHEFS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE COVETED THOSE ELUSIVE STARS. AND NOW RESTAURANTS IN QUÉBEC ARE IN THE RUNNING. >> WE'VE BEEN PRETTY EXCITED. >> Reporter: MONTRÉAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN SEEN AS THE CULINARY CAPITAL OF CANADA, THOUGH MICHELIN FIRST WENT TO TORONTO AND VANCOUVER. THIS CHEF BELIEVES THAT HAVING THE MICHELIN GUIDE HERE WILL PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC BOOST. >> DO I BELIEVE THAT WE NEEDED MICHELIN BEFORE NOW? I DON'T THINK SO. AM I GLAD THAT THEY ARE HERE? ABSOLUTELY. >> Reporter: BUT OTHER CHEFS WORRY THAT THE GUIDE'S EMPHASIS ON FINE DINING IS RESTRICTIVE AND NEUROCENTRIC. IN REWARDING STARS, THE GUIDE LOOKS AT THE QUALITY OF THE INGREDIENTS, MASTERY OF COOKING AND CULINARY TECHNIQUES, HARMONY OF FLAVOURS, PERSONALITY OF THE DISHES, AND CONSISTENCY. >> I DON'T WANT IT TO BE YOU'RE GOING INTO A RESTAURANT AND THEN THEY'RE CLICKING THE BOX. >> Reporter: ANTONIO PARK IS A CULINARY SUPERSTAR, NOT JUST IN MONTRÉAL, BUT AROUND THE WORLD. HE WORRIES THAT RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY WILL TRY TO CHASE STARS AND CHANGING THE DYNAMIC OF THE SCENE. >> WE'RE ABOUT THE WHOLE PACKAGE OF GIVING THEM PLEASURE AND MAKING THEM FEEL LIKE HOME. WE'RE A CITY LIKE THIS. >> Reporter:STILL -- >> YES, I WANT ONE OR THREE. >> Reporter: MICHELIN WAS GIVEN $2.1 MILLION IN GRANTS OVER THREE YEARS, INCLUDING MONEY FROM THE CITY, PROVINCE AND OTTAWA. THIS TO ACCOMPANY WORTH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >> WHY DO THEY GET SO MUCH FUNDING SO QUICKLY? >> Reporter: FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS, ELISE HAS BUILT UP HER OWN GUIDE TO QUÉBEC RESTAURANTS. >> MICHELIN TARGETING TO LIKE PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT AND HIGH END RESTAURANTS, LIKE GETTING THAT, IS FANTASTIC. THERE IS GOING TO BE LESS VISIBILITY FOR THE SMALLER RESTAURANTS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I COME IN. >> Reporter: JUST WHO GETS THOSE STARS WILL BE REVEALED IN 2025. SARAH LEAVITT, CBC NEWS, MONTRÉAL. The Breakdown >> Adrienne:AND NOW I'M HUNGRY. >>> TIME NOW TO BREAK DOWN THE NEWS SHAPING OUR WORLD AND TONIGHT IT IS ALL ABOUT THE U.S. PRE >> Donald Trump: I PROBABLY TOOK A BULLET TO THE HEAD BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SAY ABOUT ME. THEY TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY -- I'M A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. THEY'RE THE THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. >> Adrienne: JUST ONE MEMORABLE MOMENT FROM TONIGHT'S HEATED U.S. PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. DONALD TRUMP TYING THE RHETORIC FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO HIS ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION AND HIS OPPONENT, KAMALA HARRIS, ATTACKED RIGHT BACK ON TRUMP'S CRIMINAL CASES, AND HIS ACTIONS ON JANUARY 6TH AND HIS CAMPAIGN RALLIES. SO LET'S BRING IN OUR POLITICAL PANEL TO BREAK DOWN THE KEY MOMENTS OF THIS DEBATE, CHRIS CHRIS CILLIZZA, CNN'S FORMER EDIT ARE AT LARGE AND KATIE SIMPSON IS IN BATTLEGROUND, NEW YORK, AND "WASHINGTON POST" NATIONAL COLUMNIST PHILIP BUMP IS IN NEW YORK. SO, KATIE, CAN WE START -- LET'S Key moments in the Harris-Trump debate NOT START WITH THE DEBATE BUT START WITH A MAJOR ENDORSEMENT THAT MANY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. TAYLOR SWIFT ENDORSING KAMALA HARRIS, RIGHT AFTER THE DEBATE. I THINK THAT WE HAVE A BOARD WHERE WE CAN SHOW YOU HER ENDORSEMENT. SHE SIGNS IT I THINK CAT LADY. AND HOW BIG OF AN IMPACT IS THAT, AS WELL AS HER NUDGE TO PEOPLE TO JUST TO GO TO REGISTER TO VOTE? >> Reporter: WELL, THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A SURPRISE, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THE KAMALA HARRIS-TIM WALZ CAMPAIGN ARE GOING TO WELCOME. TAYLOR SWIFT HAS WADED INTO POLITICS BEFORE AND SHE PUT ON HER INSTAGRAM STORY, AND URGING HER SUPPORTERS AND FOLLOWERS AND URGING THEM TO REGISTER TO VOTE. IN THE 24 HOURS AFTER SHE DID THAT, CERTAIN PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES SAW A SURGE IN PEOPLE REGISTERING TO VOTE. WE HAVE SEEN POLITICIANS IN WASHINGTON TRY TO AVOID UPSETTING HER. PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR MARSHA BLACKBURN WHO IS A REPUBLICAN FROM TENNESSEE, A STAUNCH ALLY OF DONALD TRUMP, SHE WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT TAYLOR SWIFT CRITICISING THE REPUBLICANS FROM HER HOME STATE AND SHE WALKED SO CAREFULLY TO TRY TO NOT UPSET TAYLOR SWIFT AND THE SWIFTIES. SHE'S ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS PEOPLE IN THE WORLD SO, OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND ENTHUSIASM FROM THE HARRIS CAMP ON THAT ONE. >> Adrienne: OKAY, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS, FROM BOTH CAMPS AFTER THIS DEBATE. PHILIP, LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS AN IMMEDIATE FEELING THAT JOE BIDEN WAS IN ENORMOUS POLITICAL TROUBLE, RIGHT? THAT THERE WAS NO OTHER TALKING POINT OR ANY OTHER OVERWHELMING SENSATION AFTER THE DEBATE. THAT WAS THE SINGLE NARRATIVE. >> YES. >> Adrienne: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ONE BECAUSE IT WAS A RATTLING FIERCE DEBATE TO WATCH BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SINGLE NARRATIVE? >> YEAH, I FEEL LIKE -- CERTAINLY, NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE WAS IN JUNE WHEN JOE BIDEN CAME OUT AND GAVE THE PERFORMANCE THAT HE DID. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT KAMALA HARRIS WAS THE MORE EFFECTIVE DEBATER IN THIS EXCHANGE. FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I MEAN, SHE WAS MORE POINTED AND SHE WAS MORE PREPARED ON HER COMMENTS AND LESS LIKELY TO STRAY AND SHE VERY SUCCESSFULLY GOADED HIM MULTIPLE TIMES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE WANTED HER TO TALK ABOUT. DONALD TRUMP HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN OUTPERFORMED AND IT HASN'T MATTERED OVER THE LONG RUN WHICH IS PROBABLY THE KEY LESSON THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AWAY HERE. BUT THAT SAID, YEAH, I MEAN, WHILE IT CERTAINLY WASN'T THE SORT OF GAME-CHANGER THAT WE SAW IN JUNE, I DON'T THINK -- I THINK THAT IT IS VERY HARD TO ARGUE THAT DONALD TRUMP CAME OUT DOING BETTER TONIGHT THAN DID KAMALA HARRIS. >> Adrienne: IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE DEBATES AND WE'RE ALL REMINDED THAT PEOPLE SAID THAT HILLARY CLINTON WON BOTH DEBATES AFTER, YOU KNOW, WITH DONALD TRUMP, AND THAT DIDN'T MAKE A WIT OF DIFFERENCE. YOU KNOW, ABORTION WAS A HOT TOPIC AND IT WAS INEVITABLY GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT AND WE DO HAVE A CLIP HERE SO LET'S TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS HAD TO SAY ON THAT. >> Kamala Harris: DONALD TRUMP CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE TELLING A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. I HAVE TALKED WITH WOMEN AROUND OUR COUNTRY. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED? PREGNANT WOMEN WHO WANT TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM AND SUFFERING FROM A MISCARRIAGE AND BEING DENIED CARE IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE THE HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GO TO JAIL. AND SHE'S BLEEDING OUT IN A CAR IN THE PARKING LOT? SHE DIDN'T WANT THAT. >> Adrienne: HEY, CHRIS, 90 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. IS ANYONE GOING TO REMEMBER THAT MOMENT? >> WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THEY PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN WILL SMARTLY PUSH THAT ANSWER OUT TO LITERALLY EVERYONE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND FUNDRAISING EMAILS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND, REMEMBER, THAT DEBATES ARE ABOUT MOMENTS AND I THINK THAT WAS A MOMENT FOR HER. AND, FRANKLY, POLITICS AND DEBATES, PARTICULARLY, ARE ABOUT ACCENTUATING THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND SPENDING LESS TIME ON THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO ABOUT. AND DONALD TRUMP GOES IN AND WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND IMMIGRATION. AND KAMALA HARRIS WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION AS MUCH AS SHE CAN. THERE WAS A LOT MORE ABORTION TALK, PARTICULARLY IN THE FIRST 30-40 MINUTES WHEN THE AUDIENCE WILL BE THE LARGEST BECAUSE IT'S THE 9:00 HOUR ON THE EAST COAST THEN THERE WAS IMMIGRATION AND THEN THERE WAS ON THE ECONOMY. AND I THINK THAT IS A WIN. I'M WITH PHILIP, UM, I THINK THAT IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW MUCH THIS IMPACTS THE RACE. BUT I THINK THAT IT IS EASY TO SAY THAT ON POINT SHE WON THE DEBATE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS PARTICULARLY CLOSE. >> Adrienne: SO ALL OF US ARE SITTING HERE AND IMAGINING WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING. KATIE WAS AT A WATCH PARTY IN -- I GUESS IN THE NEWLY MINTED SWING STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. IT WASN'T ALWAYS A SWING STATE. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT TWO THINGS, KATIE. FIRSTLY, IN THAT MOMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DID THAT FEEL LIKE A MOMENT IN THE ROOM? AND ALSO, WHAT ARE YOU PICKING UP FROM WHAT PEOPLE HEARD TONIGHT? >> IT CERTAINLY DID FEEL LIKE A MOMENT INSIDE OF THE ROOM BECAUSE THE PEOPLE INSIDE WERE MOSTLY DEMOCRATS WHO WERE WATCHING THIS DEBATE, THIS DEBATE AT THIS PARTICULAR PARTY THAT WE WERE HERE IN CHARLOTTE. AND THEY REALLY -- A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE DEBATE PERFORMANCE THEY SAW FROM KAMALA HARRIS. THERE WERE MOMENTS WHERE THEY CHEERED. WHEN KAMALA HARRIS WOULD SEEM TO ROLL HER EYES OR SORT OF LAUGH AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING AND SOME OF HIS MORE OUTLANDISH CLAIMS LIKE THINGS ABOUT MIGRANTS EATING PETS, OR CLAIMS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD. THAT CERTAINLY GOT A STRONG REACTION FROM PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR KAMALA HARRIS. BUT ONE THING THAT WILL REALLY STAND OUT TO ME, ADRIENNE, I SPOKE WITH ONE WOMAN WHO IS A DEMOCRAT AND SUPPORTING KAMALA HARRIS AND SHE'S KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR HER BUT SHE SAYS IN THIS MOMENT WHEN SHE LOOKS AT THESE TWO CANDIDATES FROM HER PERSPECTIVE THE CHOICE IS CLEAR -- THERE IS NO -- LIKE, THERE'S NO REALLY -- SHE DOESN'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A CLOSE CONTEST AND SHE'S SO FRUSTRATED THAT IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THE UNITED STATES AT THIS MOMENT, THAT THIS RACE APPEARS TO BE DEAD EVEN, TO BE SPLIT. AND SHE FINDS IT SO FRUSTRATING WHEN SHE LOOKS AT A CANDIDATE LIKE KAMALA HARRIS WHO SHE THINKS THAT IS COMPETENT, WHO SHE THINKS THAT WOULD REPRESENT AMERICA REALLY WELL IN THE WORLD. AND SHE LOOKS AT DONALD TRUMP WHO SHE DOES NOT AGREE WITH AND DOES NOT SUPPORT AND SHE FINDS IT SO FRUSTRATING THAT THIS RACE IS CLOSE. >> Adrienne: INTERESTING. I'D LIKE TO PLAY US ANOTHER CLIP IF WE CAN. AND THIS ONE IS DONALD TRUMP AND HE'S ANGRY AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WHEN PEOPLE COMING TO THE UNITED STATES AND IT'S STRANGE -- SO BUCKLE UP HERE. >> Donald Trump: IN SPRINGFIELD, THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS -- THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN -- THEY'RE EATING THE CATS AND THEY'RE EATING -- THEY'RE EATING THE PETS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. AND THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY. >> Adrienne: SO, LOOK, THIS WAS VERY QUICKLY FACT CHECKED BY THE MODERATORS, WHICH WAS AN INTERESTING THING THAT HAPPENED IN THIS DEBATE, RIGHT. THIS WAS UNUSUAL AND THEY WERE DOING REAL-TIME FACT CHECKING AND IT WAS FOUND TO NOT BE TRUE. WHAT DID THIS TELL YOU ABOUT THE DEBATE AND THE STRATEGY THEY WERE BOTH EMPLOYING HERE? >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT COLD ME A COUPLE OF THINGS -- TOLD ME A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT TRUMP HERE. AND HE GOES BACK TO IMMIGRANTS ARE DANGEROUS AND SCARY. HE LAUNCHED HIS CAMPAIGN IN JUNE 2015 WITH THAT SAME RHETORIC AND IT'S BEEN HIS GO TO WITH WHAT MADE HIM SUCCESSFUL IN 2016 IN THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATING CONTEST AND WHAT KEEPS HIS BASE STRONG TODAY. BUT IT ALSO SHOWED TO ME THAT HE'S SO MIRED IN HIS BUBBLE AND SO DEEP INSIDE OF THIS CONVERSATIONAL SPACE IN WHICH THAT CLAIM -- THIS NONSENSICAL AND RACIST TROPE OF IMMIGRANTS EATING PETS OF THEIR NEIGHBOURS PERCOLATED ON THE RIGHT-WING CONVERSATIONAL SPACE. AND VERY QUICKLY IT GOT TO TRUMP'S TEAM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HIS BASE IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, AND MAKING THESE REALLY GROSS AND FALSE CLAIMS. AND THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND IN THE MOMENT THAT THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT, FIRST OF ALL, HE DIDN'T DELIVER IT WELL AND MAKE THE CLAIM IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AND HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS NOT THE PLACE AND TIME FOR IT. AND IT WAS REMARKABLE AND THE SIGN THAT KAMALA HARRIS WAS BETTER ABLE TO DEBATE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE DEBATE. >> Adrienne: WE TALKED A LOT BEFORE THIS DEBATE HOW IS DONALD TRUMP GOING TO WALK THIS LINE BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ACCUSED AND HE'S SAID SOME MISOGYNISTIC THINGS, A FAIR AMOUNT OF THEM IN THE PAST. IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR HIM TO NAVIGATE THE SPACE WITH DEBATING A WOMAN IN PARTICULAR. HOW IS HE GOING TO HANDLE IT. AND ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW HE DID THERE, CHRIS? >> YOU KNOW, SHE SORT OF ONLY HAS ONE SPEED -- YOU KNOW, ONE GEAR -- UM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT IS THAT DIFFERENT WITH WOMEN THAN MEN. I THINK THAT HE JUST SORT OF IS BULLYING AND SORT OF THAT KIND OF PRESENCE. I WILL SAY THAT I WAS STRUCK AT ONE POINT THAT HE WAS TALKING AND HARRIS SAID SOMETHING OFF MIC AND HE TURNED AND SAID, QUIET PLEASE. WHICH IF THAT HAD HAPPENED WITH ANY OTHER POLITICIAN, NOT NAMED DONALD TRUMP AND A FEMALE CANDIDATE -- IT WOULD BE A HUGE THING AND BECAUSE IT'S DONALD TRUMP I THINK THAT, LIKE, WOW, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I CANNOT IMAGINE HIS ANSWERS ON ABORTION -- NOT THAT ALL WOMEN ARE SINGLE ISSUE VOTERS ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS MORE PERSONAL TO MANY WOMEN. I CANNOT IMAGINE HIS ANSWERS ON ABORTION WERE PARTICULARLY PERSUASIVE AND, AGAIN, TO START TO -- TO FINISH WHERE WE STARTED I DO THINK THAT WAS HER SINGLE BEST ANSWER OF THE NIGHT. PERSONALIZING IT. AND SAYING THAT DONALD TRUMP SORT OF FLIP RESPONSE HAS BEEN THAT EVERYONE WANTED ROE V WADE TO BE OVERTURNED AND THAT'S NOT ALWAYS BEEN TRUE, BUT TO CALL IT OUT AND SAY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A CHILD AS A RESULT OF INCEST, OR RAPE, OR HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR PREGNANCY -- YOU KNOW, TO REALLY PERSONALIZE IT I THINK IS POWERFUL, PARTICULARLY COMING FROM A WOMAN. AND PARTICULARLY AS I POINT OUT AGAINST SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO HAS MADE SO MANY COMMENTS ABOUT WOMEN IN A DEROGATORY WAY. >> Adrienne: YOU KNOW, PHILIP, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION BEFOREHAND AND PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT POLICY -- THEY WANT TO HEAR POLICY -- HOW MANY TIMES DID PEOPLE TELL US THIS? AND THEY WANTED TO HEAR FOREIGN POLICY AND SO THEY GOT SOME FOREIGN POLICY. WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF WHETHER THEY WERE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION? >> YEAH, I MEAN, LOOK, I DON'T 19MEAN TO BE A CYNIC AND PEOPLE DON'T CARE THAT MUCH AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON ABORTION BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR -- I THINK ONE OF DONALD TRUMP -- AND THE LINES THAT LASTED THE LONGEST AND HE HAD A PLAN TO REPLACE HEALTHCARE WHICH HE'S BEEN SAYING THAT HE HAD SINCE 2018, AND IT'S VERY MUCH A RIDICULOUS ANSWER. NO ONE EXPECTED HIM TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN ON HEALTHCARE. LOOK, PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THESE DEBATES AND, LOOK, THE BIG PROXIES FOR BEING PRESIDENT AND A GOOD PRESIDENT IS NOT SOMEONE ABLE TO OUTDEBATE SOMEONE. IT'S HOW WE SORT OF DO THIS THING. AND SO WHAT PEOPLE THINK WITH DEBATES IS A SENSE OF HOW PEOPLE THAT THEY GET FROM THE CANDIDATE TO A LARGE EXTENT AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE IDEA THAT WE ALL HAVE -- WE ALL LIKE TO PRIDE OURSELVES ON WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE POLICIES ARE -- BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND I THINK THAT IT'S NUGGETS AND THE QUOTES FROM HARRIS THAT YOU PLAYED AND FROM TRUMP THAT YOU PLAY THAT SPREAD ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I THINK THAT THOSE WILL HAVE AN EFFECT, FAR MORE IF THERE HAD BEEN A DETAILED AND SUBSTANTIVE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. >> Adrienne: WHAT A WORLD THIS IS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Kamala Harris: ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO ABANDON THEIR FAITH OR DEEPLY HEALTH BELIEFS TO BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT AND DONALD TRUMP, CERTAINLY, SHOULD NOT BE TELLING A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. >> Adrienne: ANOTHER NOTABLE MOMENT FROM TONIGHT'S U.S. PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. KAMALA HARRIS ON THE KEY ISSUE OF ABORTION RIGHTS. HER OPPONENT, DONALD TRUMP, HIT BACK ON IMMIGRATION AND THE The state of the U.S. presidential race BORDER. SO LET'S PULL THE LENS OUT WIDER AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE RACE ITSELF AND ELLEN MAURO HAS BEEN ON THIS FOR US FOR SOME TIME NOW. ELLEN, I GUESS WITH PRECISELY EIGHT WEEKS TO GO NOW -- HOW DID THINGS LOOK? >> Reporter: WELL, ONE WORD, ADRIENNE -- THE RACE IS TIGHT. BASED ON THE LATEST POLL THAT WAS PUBLISHED EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE "THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAYS THAT IT'S THE TIGHTEST RACE IN MODERN POLLING HISTORY. AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH ON STAKE ON A NIGHT LIKE TONIGHT. WE'LL SHOW YOU AT HOME WHAT THAT "THE NEW YORK TIMES" POLL LOOKED LIKE AND A VERY NARROW LEAD FOR DONALD TRUMP, 48% TO 47%. AND ONE REASON BESIDES HOW TIGHT THIS IS THAT THE POLL IS GETTING SO MUCH ATTENTION IS BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST LEAD FOR TRUMP IN A MAJOR NATIONAL POLL IN ABOUT A MONTH. SO GOING INTO THE DEBATE, THAT WAS RAISING SOME CONCERN FOR DEMOCRATS, BUT THE INITIAL MOMENTUM THAT HARRIS HAD COULD BE SLOWING, WITH POSSIBLY A SHIFTING BACK TO TRUMP. WHO WAS LEADING BEFORE HARRIS ENTERED THE RACE. NOW, OF COURSE, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE DEBATE. THIS WAS ONE POLL AND OBVIOUSLY POLLING ARE JUST A FAT? SNAPSHON TIME BUT IT SHOWS THAT THE SUPPORT FOR TRUMP HAS BEEN RESILIENT. THIS WAS A NATIONWIDE POLL AND WHAT REALLY MATTERS ARE JUST THOSE UNDECIDED VOTERS AND REALLY JUST THOSE UNDECIDED VOTERS IN THOSE KEY SWING STATES. YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE, SEVEN STATES WILL DECIDE THE ENTIRE OUTCOME OF THIS RACE, PLACES LIKE GEORGIA, RUSTBELT STATES AND NEVADA. AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THOSE PLACES SPECIFICALLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA. WHICH IS REALLY KEY TO THIS WHOLE RACE. IT HAS 19 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES, MORE THAN ANY OTHER SWING STATE. AND THE TREND IN POLLING A MONTH AGO HAD HARRIS A FEW APPOINTMENTPOINTS AHEAD AND IT'W NECK-AND-NECK AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE RACE DOES. >> Adrienne: HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE CANDIDATES TONIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU LISTENED CAREFULLY TO HOW THEY WERE PLAYING TO THE VOTER? >> Reporter: THINK ABOUT THAT FIRST QUESTION -- IT WAS ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING AND DONALD TRUMP ANSWERED IT BUT THEN IMMEDIATELY PIVOTED IN THAT VERY SAME ANSWER TO IMMIGRATION AND TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER. WE SAW HIM GO BACK TO THOSE TWO SUBJECTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND IN HIS USUAL HYPERBOLIC LANGUAGE, NO MATTER WHAT THE QUESTION ACTUALLY WAS. AND THAT'S BECAUSE HE KNOWS THOSE ARE VULNERABILITIES FOR KAMALA HARRIS AS PART OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR VOTERS. SO HE'S REALLY TRYING TO STAKE HIS CANDIDACY ON THOSE TWO THINGS. NOW FOR KAMALA HARRIS WE HEARD HER ARGUE THAT DONALD TRUMP POSES A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE ON CAPITOL HILL ON JANUARY 6TH. SHE ALSO REALLY WENT AFTER DONALD TRUMP ON ABORTION AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. ANOTHER KEY ISSUE FOR VOTERS. NOW THAT'S THE POLICY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DEBATE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SAW KAMALA HARRIS REPEATEDLY TRY AND OFTEN SUCCESSFULLY TO BAIT DONALD TRUMP. THERE'S ONE POINT WHERE SHE TALKS ABOUT HIS RALLIES AND SHOW SAYS THAT PEOPLE LEAVE THEM OUT OF BOREDOM OVER WHAT HE IS SAYING AND IT HAD A SCRAMBLING ANSWER ON CROWD SIZES ON A QUESTION THAT WAS ABOUT HIS TOPIC -- THE BORDER. SO THAT WAS ONE NOTABLE MOMENT. AND TRUMP DIDN'T LOOK AT HARRIS VERY MUCH DURING THE DEBATE BUT SHE MADE A POINT OF STARING AT HIM FOR MOST OF HIS ANSWERS WITH A QUIZZICAL LOOK AND AT SOME POINT SHAKING HER HEAD AND SAYING THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND THE PERFORMANCE AND THE POLICY ALL GOES BACK TO THE UNDECIDED VOTERS. I TALKED TO A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST EARLIER TODAY AND HE SAID THAT NO MATTER WHAT ELSE DONALD TRUMP SAYS OR DOES, IT DOESN'T MATTER. THEY THINK THAT HE CAN GET BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE ON THOSE TWO ISSUES OF THE ECONOMY AND IMMIGRATION. AND HARRIS IS VERY CLEARLY TRYING TO SHOW DONALD TRUMP AS EXTREME, TRYING TO POSITION HERSELF AS A MORE STABLE, AS A MORE RATIONAL CHOICE TO THOSE UNDECIDED VOTERS. AND TO REPUBLICANS WHO PERHAPS JUST DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP THIS TIME AROUND. >> Adrienne: WOW, THIS IS EXCELLENT ANALYSIS. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE TALKING 10 10,000 MORE TIMES. >>> UP NEXT, A LICENCE PLATE COLLECTOR'S LUCKY FIND. >> WALKING IN THERE WAS LIKE DISNEYLAND. The Moment | Licence plate collector scores (♪♪) >> Adrienne: SO WHAT IS THAT YOU'RE WONDERING IN WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOUSANDS OF NEW BRUNSWICK LICENCE PLATES AND RUSTED AND DATING BACK TO THE 1950s AND THEY'RE ALL LAID OUT ACROSS A FOREST FLOOR IN FREDERICTON. FOR A LOCAL LICENCE PLATE COLLECTOR, FINDING THIS TREASURE TROVE WAS A DREAM COME TRUE. AND TONIGHT HIS DISCOVERY MAKES OUR "MOMENT." >> I HAVE A FRIEND, A GOOD FRIEND, THAT LIVES IN BURTS CORNER AND HE TOOK ME OUT AND SHOWED ME THIS PLACE. AND YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT IT IS THERE, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY POLLUTED WITH LICENCE PLATES ALL OVER THE GROUND. I SAID, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR LIKE 30 YEARS, HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN ABOUT THIS? AND HE SAID, OH, ALL MY LIFE. WHAT! WALKING IN THERE IT WAS LIKE DISNEYLAND FOR LICENCE PLATE PEOPLE. WELL, THE NEW BRUNSWICK PLATE PRIMARILY 1959, 1960 AND 1961. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE SIMPSONS WHEN HOMER WENT TO CHOCOLATE LAND? [LAUGHTER] >> THE LAND OF CHOCOLATE! >> I WAS LIKE OH, WHERE DO I START, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU ARE DOWN ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES DIGGING AND THE WORST PART ABOUT IT IS THAT, I MEAN, YOU GET A PLATE IN YOUR HAND AND YOU THINK, WOW, LOOK AT THAT! AND THEN YOU LOOK OVER AND YOU SEE A BETTER ONE AND THAT ONE GOES AWAY. [LAUGHTER] I THINK THAT I PROBABLY WALKED OUT WITH ABOUT 30 PLATES. >> Adrienne:OKAY, THIS IS WILD. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IT SEEMS THAT BACK IN THE DAY THEY ISSUED A BRAND-NEW PLATE EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND BECAUSE THE WAX COATING ON IT THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SO THESE KIND OF LICENCE PLATE GRAVEYARDS ARE APPARENTLY ALL OVER NEW BRUNSWICK. >>> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.