Ubisoft's Stock Hits 10Year Low Is Star Wars Outlaws to Blame? $90 Spectre Skins, Concord's Demise

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Spectra divide launches with an outrageous $90 gun skin out of the gate and it's already 10 times more popular than what out uh Outlaws Concord was when it launched uh we're going to talk about we're going to talk about why con why Concord failed from IG and we're also going to we're also going to read a whole bunch of cope right Concord developers Express gratitude for the support for the following sudden shutdown for all of your reach out with the fans we know there's not that many fans but there are fans I think I have more fans take how you want that okay I think I I think I have more of a following than Concord did which is just so we're going to read a bunch of tweet tweets from that we're also going to cover uh Paul tassy has an article that he came out with yesterday saying Microsoft confirms black myth Wukong delay not due to platform limitations okay so one article said that game science said that they said something and then Paul tassi said that he had a a source that said it was something else and then now he has an article saying that he has that covered which then if again if it's true then game science and Sony are liars if it's not true then the the artist or the journalists are liars and if uh somebody's a liar that's all I know right who is it gonna be we'll find out okay so that's what is on today's show uh and and at the end if we have time uh I don't know if you guys saw the Minecraft trailer that just dropped what in the f is that what is the f is that okay uh it's it's mindboggling to me in Discord I said it will make a billion dollars on Minecraft's name alone so it doesn't really matter what they put out it looks worse if that's possible than Borderlands does but hey whatever let's keep that video game Spirit Alive of making crappy movie adaptations okay Mario wasn't wasn't the norm it was the the outlier right Sonic wasn't the norm it was the outlier but who knows all right let me see what you guys are saying in chat here uh up above Travis says uh I'm going to say I'm I'm going to say no it's not Outlaws the blame it doesn't take one game to make 10year low it can't be saved by one game either uh continues by saying I think it's funny that the uh say things like oh yeah something is so bad that it tanked the company so very rarely is one G one thing to blame now five years making a bad decisions can affect this well I'll tell you what Travis this is this is actually how it works in business okay companies want the money all they want all the money they want all the money so what happens is they made money they invested the money and they were they were depending on the money that Outlaws was going to make them now again I haven't read the article yet but if Outlaws didn't perform well they've already spent that money they were like oh we were going to make 10 million copies sold but we only sold 3 million so what happens then is they've already made the budgeting of everything else that also feeds into other things so one game can bakeer up a company if they mistreated their funding and whatnot now I'm not saying that's what happened but I am saying that you're saying that it can't be one thing but it can be one thing because they look at something like a franchise of the IP of Star Wars and they said we think it's going to make this much money if it makes this much money then we can make these other things down the road but then it doesn't and they're like well we can't really afford the other people that we're paying for now so we're going to have to fire people okay so that's that's a thing Jean says the last 10 years is a soulless open World Games by Ubisoft it's to blame Kyo says I can care less about the big corporations they need to learn from this [ __ ] uh their [ __ ] ways number one uh way to do that is to stop buying their [ __ ] n Tech Guys says uh Ubie has been uh been on the downhill trajectory of massive but massive having brain dead AI is wild I agree 100% how can a company that made the division the the AI and division is fantastic and yet but then this I I don't get it I don't get it myself Jason says Syndicate was the last one I play even if I was burnt out by the franchise oh you're talking about Assassin's Creed yeah says I just happy that people are actually voting with their wallets finally and not buying shitty products well again like I I said yesterday like a speeding ticket you get a TI you're like I'm never going to speed again some people are like I'm never going to buy a crap game again and then they do it again uh good morning Robert Jones Robert Jones my condolences to Concord my condolences to you and Concord did you buy a did you buy a physical copy or did you have a digital copy Minecraft will certainly do better than Borderlands oh for sure good morning zth Ubisoft delayed a proven Money Maker division 3 for crap Star Wars game well unfortunately I love division 2 and division 2 made really good money in the beginning but then it fell off hard it fell off hard but that's because they stopped supporting their live service game and then they just started to support their live service game more so morning East Vandal Minecraft uh can work like a Lego Movie worked sure did you watch did you see the trailer though Vandal it's not like um I mean it's animated but with live action where Lego's just I mean there is live action in there but um I don't know I I hope the first trailer doesn't sell me on it it it looks terrible it looks terrible it's almost looks like not that jumongi looked bad cuz Jumanji actually was good and I'm talking about the new jumongi with the rock and Jack Black and them it looks it it looks worse than that it looks like they try to duplicate what jumongi was but in Minecraft which I think we said when they first announced doing a Minecraft movie what you guys are saying no point in buying physical disc for only uh only online games I'm assuming that's what you you meant to put there Jean says Concord fall combined forces for the next game goated n Tech says I believe that Outlaws turned out this way because massive was making division uh heartbreak canceled it and then released and I think it was rushed as a bad decision which that's a good theory that's a good Theory new tech and just like I said one thing can affect the other down the line uh and could bankrupt a company uh they had a bunch of things they were working on and then they didn't you know what I mean and they had a they had to finish one thing fast to get to the other thing but then it got canceled then they had more time so could be East Vandal says Concord should be an eye opener for these physical only guys how did you how did your physical copy of Concord work out for you well they'll tell you in 20 years when it's worth uh when it's worth $250,000 uh because there there was less than a thousand of them created the the the game itself to a collector will be more than than the game it the collecting of the game will be more than the game itself says so what's Sony's next move their showcase is already a lock the show uh the PlayStation 5 Pro they're going to have to pull out some big guns and force The Heavy Hitters to come out come out with the uh teaser trailer well they have astrobot coming out what Friday they have uh I'm sure they have big announcements that what's going to happen I'm sure they'll they'll throw in some DLC of Spider-Man when they make announcement uh what else I'm sure they'll they'll have the GTA 6 trailer at their event I think they'll have that uh perhaps right maybe maybe Rockstar comes out with something beforehand but then they show it again at PlayStation because rumors are that they got the marketing rights for Grand Theft Auto 6 which is not a surprise because they usually always had the marketing rights uh when the when they started showing it on console Jason says $200 million on Concord but we can't get a 60 frames per second bloodborne update yep because the the the possibility of making the money they could have made off Concord uh it outweighs what they could have done with with bloodborne going on salty I wouldn't be surprised that if Disney was pushing also remember that they said they wanted a game every 6 months yeah absolutely they wanted a big game and and a small game once a year right so every six months big game small game big game small game and Hunters just came out at the tail end of the front half of the first year right like the tail end of the front half the first year and then this one came out uh here we are you know at the end of August the PlayStation 5 Pro is a rumor I mean it's a rumor but if they announce it at their event everything's a rumor until they officially say it oh they always throw money at Rockstar though K they always throw money play PlayStations always had the marketing rights for for the Rockstar Games Rockstar usually puts out a trailer for themselves but then when they show it on console and stuff they usually go towards PlayStation come on Jessy Mac Jamba Gambit mission is actually pretty close to Hogwarts Legacy DLC mission is it I didn't I didn't play the uh the Hogwarts Legacy Mission because it didn't come to Xbox till recently and I still haven't gone back to play it come on Chris that's correct Chris Tupac is alive with Elvis and uh Michael Jackson uh and they're all playing They're all playing poker in the Bahamas yeah just a rumor though and where where did you pull that stat out from Travis this is from the same population of uh Sony people that buy video games that didn't support the game that came out on their own platform is that is that what you're talking about is this the same people that that buy games that didn't buy a first- party game on on their platform those people all right let's go with the first story let's start off with Ubisoft here let's start off with Ubisoft here if you guys like what I do we just cover new stories have conversations uh banter back and forth uh we do this Monday through Thursday from 10 o'clock in the morning till noon Eastern hit that like button hit that subscribe button we're trying to get to 3,000 subscribers and if you'd like to go above and beyond that become a member as little as $5 Travis says I'm talking about facts 30 the fact is that more people care about Spiderman to the Indiana Jones where is that where is that stat where is the fact stat that you have that you can say that that that's fact show me it survey says show me it and then I'll put it on screen show me it show me it it's it's it's absolutely ridiculous the the the the the amount of [ __ ] that comes out of people's mouths show me a fact show me one fact that says more people are interested in Spider-Man 2 DLC than Indiana Jones now I can tell you Indiana Jones is not a video game yet and Spider-Man 2 is and we know how many people were interested in Spider-Man 2 but there is nowhere that says that more people are interested in that DLC than the brand new game that's coming out nowhere no where I see every single showcase people say that Spider-Man 2 DLC went during the FN Xbox showcase everyone was asking oh my God Travis go take a nap go take a nap all right Ubisoft stock tanks to a 10-year low after lukewarm Star Wars Outlaws launch this is fact right this is fact Ubisoft stock price have tanked over 10% in the past 2 days following a lukewarm reception of Star War Outlaws at the time of writing this ubisoft's entertainment uh ESS stock price or at 15.50 a level of not seen since December of 2014 the stock price puts the company's market cap just shy of two billion at 1.99 billion the stock price drop follows a release of Star Wars Outlaws which released with a mere 4.9 user score out of 10 according to review aggregator uh Metacritic as a result the 10 pit uh response led to JP Morgan to slash sales forecast by 2 million predicting that 5.5 million units sold by March of 2025 combined a slash in sales and the Disney Hefty licensing and it's not hard to see while the investors are sketchy on the company's immediate future but that's not all just last week Insider gamer reported that ex defiant the publisher free-to-play hit that formerly or firmly contributed to the company's quarter One financial success was a big trouble according to our sources the game on this uh borrowed time and it's risking losing its much needed post-launch support if the developer can't bring back players by the end of season 3 Ubisoft declined to comment on the report now still investors remain optimistic about the Publishers future with the game set into release on November 15th Assassin's Creed shadows will be uh crucial to making the financial year of financial success despite the gamees already seeing its fair share of online discourse of course suggested pre-order numbers are strong looking ahead to the Past fiscal year this is looking like a light bright uh a little brighter for the company next year and we also could hear about some huge titles including the next Mainline entries into Far Cry or Ghost Recon and hotly anticipated Splinter Cell remake and who knows perhaps one could even announce later this year perk investors and frankly players too what do you think about ubisoft's future let us know in the comments section down below so uh this is you know I'm having fun with Star Wars Outlaws but I can 100% to see why it's happening and then here's another thing that that none of this goes into effect right copies are down right because they they projected 7 million they say 5 million now by March of 2025 we talked about this a little bit yesterday or last week or whatever what's not in effect here is the $18 a month right Ubisoft that just counts as like a digital sale they're not actually putting into how many copies are being sold uh because I'm not like I said the other day am I being counted as a copy sold cuz I'm playing it on Ubisoft plus but I didn't purchase the game right I paid $18 for a service and I didn't pay $70 $110 $130 for the actual game itself so where does that fall into this projection of 5.5 million sales of by March of 2025 the fact that right now we are in August or September now okay but the game came out in August we're talking August or September October November December January febru 6 months and they think they're going to sell uh the projection of 5 million units right that's a little over a million units a month or I should say less than a million uh a month uh because they'd say 5.5 to 5 million right and that would kind of be devastating for what it is because again it's Disney's property and they got to pay a hefty licensing fee towards Disney Disney doesn't care Disney made their money up front right Disney made their money because they got the licensing fee up front for that um and then obviously they get a percentage of sales from each of that but what is Ubisoft going to do if AC Shadows comes out and it is underwhelming as well where maybe they project that is 10 million but it only makes seven or maybe it's projected seven and it's also at five you know what's going to happen there um do we see you know that they obviously they this will go on sale by Christmas time because they want to push that out but they really want to push you to get that $18 to get on the Ubisoft plus thing we'll see what happens with this as far as do do they change if it's underperforming do they push it out on these Services early like a a PlayStation Plus and a Game Pass early get that money from the uh companies of Microsoft and Sony to try to get it on there or do they just stti stick with their plan for the 2-year plan where if they put it on the on the on Game Pass or they put it on PlayStation plus they can make the money off of people playing it off of those services but then paying for the dlc's right the season pass the two season passes one in the fall one in the spring or do they stay strong with this and say you know what we we made enough but we didn't make all the money that we wanted to make and do we keep this like they did for fall in order EA with fall in order and Survivor where they kept it one year one year after then they started putting it on those services like Game Pass and whatnot let me know what you think in the comments section down below do you think this is a just a blip in the radar for Ubisoft or do you think this is the start of uh the beginning of the end I should say of their constantly of the same type of games putting out and people are not really buying them as much as anymore let me know in the comments section down below please make sure you share like subscribe and if you like what I do here please check out some of our other videos thanks for watching all right let's see here Jesse Max says Ubisoft recently released skull and bones and Star Wars Outlaws in AC Shadows if AC Shadows is not making any sales keep dropping and sales those those games this year are very disappointing for them uh Avatar underperformed as well Jesse right so Pandora didn't sell very well p uh uh frontiers of Pandora didn't sell very well Skull and Bones didn't sell very well Star Wars didn't sell very well right you know people are saying oh it's just one game no it's been multiple games so far that have not sold now obviously I don't know how the microtransactions are selling in these games or whatnot they just had a massive sale on all the Ubisoft stuff over the summer so you know not only did frontiers of Pandora not sell very well from last year so within one fisol year we're not we're not at a full full year since that were launched but it went on sale 3 weeks after it came out Skull and Bones went on sale 3 weeks after it came out uh we'll see how fast this goes on sale after it comes out because the sales are down right A lot of people are saying they didn't sell very much I think there's a report I don't have it pulled up but the UK uh Star Wars sold number one in the UK for physical copies but we don't know what that number is right so it's sold well in the UK uh but we don't know what the actual numbers are let's see kylo says Shadows is the Last Hope of the year I can't wait to see uh below expectations right but it still might be a here here's what I I let's say it needs to sell 5 million but their expectations are seven but then it comes down at five they're happy with a five but it's under it's underperforming what they thought it was going to perform you see what I'm saying kylo so both could be the same right it could be well off where they're making money but it's under expectations of what the business model where they're like oh the last game sold this so we're we're asking for a 20% increase or what or or whatnot brand clip says the story of Spider-Man 2 is the worst part about the game and that you can't play co-op I'm still mad at it I didn't play it so I don't know I I really enjoyed Spider-Man and Miles Morales when I played those two but I haven't played Spider-Man 2 I played all I played all the Spider-Man games myself salty I played all the Spider-Man games the the only one I haven't played um there was one back in I don't think I played ultimate and then is that what it was called I think it was Ultimate uh and then and then there was uh it was like more cartoony and then there was uh this one Spider-Man 2 I don't know the name cuz I didn't play it Jean says if you can't sell an open world Star Wars game you got problems yeah I think they misfired I think they misfired how to how to Market it and sell it with a um a brand new character instead of putting a character that you would know they could have done Jean they could have done so much uh in my opinion if you take the same character and put someone that we know in that place they don't have to be a Jedi right they could have done Han and and and chewbaca between four and five The Adventures of them uh they could have done the Jedi with Luke Skywalker and the adventures of Luke Skywalker and how he became a Jedi between four and five right um I'm sorry five and six I kept saying four and five five and six they they could have done something uh with wedge right you could go on a on a mission with wedge people like wedge right they could have done a lot of different things they could have maken massive could have made a bad batch game stick with what you know kind of thing where they did division they could have done some sort of action game instead of a stealth game I do I do find it interesting that they went the route that they did right they're known for this type of game but they made this type of game and it seems like a lot of companies that are known for one genre or one type of game switch to another it doesn't do very well for them it doesn't do well you wrote right Rock Steady made single player right like rock rock steady should have made the Star Wars game you see what I'm saying rock steady should have made the Star Wars game because they know the the the stealth mechanics and all this other stuff division should have made the suicide squads in in this like reverse Realms here because they know that type of stuff and that company knows this type of stuff but for some reason they'd all decided to make a game that they weren't known for which I applaud them to try cuz art is Art but at the same time I I think it missed the mark because of marketing reasons or whatnot that's why I stopped playing Jean also uh I watch AC Shadows the same open world formula I just tired of seeing the same stuff it's there's no Towers or something that you're you're you're finding inside of Star Wars but it is different because it's a different IP but the AC for formula is just old to me old and just boring that's why I stopped playing them now that might not be true it might not be boring and people love it for me it's boring repetitive and boring it's the same stuff I'm like okay I played this I played that I played six Assassin's Creeds they were all the same just different areas but they basically all the same my favorite one is the Brotherhood says I got you 30 I'm not I'm saying that it's a flop but this is why I put under expectations oh absolutely I got you salty says technically a new Spider-Man's our better Evolution has been great I I could do with more finishers though and yet play Spider-Man 2 uh let's see what else you guys are saying water bear says to say Spider-Man 1 was mid is crazy talk I expect Spider-Man 2 to be being a mid story but the action is great again I have no comment on Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man 1 was fantastic I think people that call games like that mid are just don't like open World Games right El that actually would have been good generro yeah that would have been good like take her and go on a missions before Rogue one type of stuff right I think it's A Hard Sell or if you make this game hell you don't even have to introduce to to a new character you're the character right they could have made in Star Wars Outlaws they could have made they could have made it where you make your character just like Starfield right just make your character you create the character you want to live in this Star Wars universe that would have been cool salty says comic book fans are usually always story that's what matters regardless of the action right for those types of games yeah cuz they're they're seeing their comic book hero come to life Jean says 100% th just put someone familiar ain't rocket science right and if you just made me make my own character then I could have made anybody I wanted right I could have made a Luke Skywalker I could have made a solo I could have made Princess Leia I could have made whatever give me the tools to make the character I want and then play through the world kard says customizable character and they would have been swimming in money that's what I'm saying K good morning bounty hunter that would have been sick jetpack at all here's the thing right now I'm playing Starfield off and on off stream okay I am I am Mando in a Star Wars I'm playing a star I'm playing a better Star Wars game right now in a Starfield game okay in a Bethesda game than I am in an actual Star Wars game okay I'm having a better fantasy in my head about who I am and what I'm doing inside of Starfield as a Star Wars character than I am in the character in actual Outlaws I think she's a I think as I'm playing I'm like she's a good character I like the actress umly is doing a a fantastic job with the acting and whatnot it's just the mechanics of the game I've said this multiple days now over time I love the world they built the I wish Starfield did this more handcrafted worlds um shadowed space is doing that but I love the world the the the crafted World they've built for the Star Wars game I just don't like the the stealth that they've put in the game and and the shooting and whatnot one part is like 90 out of 100 the other part is like a 30 out of 100 and that doesn't make you know that doesn't make it 100% you know one part is amazing and the other part is just but the part that's m is the gameplay in a game let's see didn't they come uh a couple months back back and say it's not canceled which one oh really wish cotor remake wasn't canceled I don't think it was cancelled I think it was put on the back burner for a bit if I'm not mistaken I remember reading that I don't know if it's cancelled Chris says Ubisoft is known for stealth Splinter Cell Assassin's Creed OG style I don't see how Rock Steady is better at stealth no no Rock Steady at did you not play a Batman game Chris in my example that I said did did you not play Batman like like Batman is 100% stealth like the game that they made for Star Wars is what Batman was like just take KVs out and put Batman in that that that's the game right and and massive not Ubisoft massive made division one and division 2 and they're known for shooting games live service and rock steady made Suicide Squad which made a multiplayer Co-op live service shooting game right are you following me now Ard says yes but it's because lightsabers sell going all out uh with the fours was unique idea Jesse Max says and everyone waiting years and years for Shadows is to set in in fudal Japan it don't succeed on it uh big no no since everyone is waiting for it but which is funny I think I think the feudal of Japan is a little late especially because it goes to Shima right you know everyone's going to compare even though it's not fair they're going to take they're going to take the Shadows game and compared to Ghost of shishima which is not going to be a fair comparison El Dente says when I was playing Starfield with the Mando skin on it automatically made the game better have you downloaded the other other mods yet that basically turns the entire game into into Star Wars blue arrow says 30 when you played it did feel bloated did what feel bloated blue like the Star Wars game did the Star Wars game feel bloated I know I'm reading it I'm behind chat I'm trying to catch up East Vandal says Batman stealth segments were some of the only stealth mechanics I've ever enjoyed the only thing I hated about the Batman stealth stuff is the game looked so beautiful back then Vandal and I hated that you had to go through that that uh that when you pushed R3 I think it was R3 where all of a sudden you can see all the skeletons like through the walls and stuff and you played majority of the game through that view and I was just like ah come on I was like it looks so good you couldn't have done something else which they actually did better in this game in Star Wars Outlaws cuz when you hit nyx's thing it it does a pulse and it lights them up for a bit through the walls and then it slowly Fades out so you're not always in that game mode or that mechanic yeah you downloaded all of it all made all around better says I think it's fine for the devs to try new things but they need to reduce the scope and New Concepts for that failure uh it doesn't hurt as much but here's the thing the problems that are in Star Outlaws I think they can tweak because it's it's the stealth mechanics they have to fix the AI fix the stealth fix the shooting I know those are the three major things but at the same time everything else in the game is fantastic the way you get the the storytelling that they're doing the way you get the quest the World building the lore everything about it feels like Star Wars it's just those three mechanics the dumb Ai and really the stealth shooting I can get by you can leave the shooting as is a couple more tweaks of quality of life let me pick up another weapon and hold it instead of dropping every 5 Seconds shadow looks different enough uh looks brutal and also Japanese girl stealth reminds me of uh tenu was also the other stealth game that I can enjoy what all I'm saying is you know it's going to get just like uh no man's Sky gets compared to Starfield which gets compared to um um uh what's the other one other space game you know what I'm talking about anytime there's a space game it's compared to another space game when you're talking about a Japanese game set in Japan it's going to get compared to another Japanese game set in Japan the stealth was the last straw for me I put Outlaws down for now X Factor if you upgrade if you if you find the P I don't know how far you all you are in the game and I'm not trying to defend the game in any way shape or form but if you bought the game I don't know if you bought it or if you if you paid $18 if you paid $18 give it another shot or actually if you pay the 70 obviously you own it so you're stuck with it but uh if you upgrade and do the abilities you unlock more abilities the stealth becomes better your weapons become better if you give it more time if you're early on in the game stealth is terrible but it gets better along the way but it takes too long to make it better and it still doesn't feel good no not no man's Sky hilly um I was thinking of what's the what's the one on the PC oh God I can't I can't think of the one the one that's made like a billion dollars that charges $48,000 for a ship my brain can't think of it Star Citizen thank you I don't know why I couldn't even think yeah Star Citizen no man got no man's SK gets compared to that Elite dangerous Starfield all of them all of them get compared to each other because they're all in space so if if you don't think if one of you think that Shadows AC Shadows is not going to get compared to Ghost of Shima you're kidding yourself water bear says that skillup says Space Marines absolutely rules and that's a good sign no official reviews yet all I have to hear water is does the co-op work day one and that's not going to be in a review that's going to be in people playing it and going yeah Co-op Works seamlessly if that works then it's a purchase if it doesn't work it's a it's a no purchase for me I don't care how good it is how great it runs I want to play that game with Co-op hilly says if you're anti 47,000 in-game ships you mad bro Flex on peasants I say all I'm saying is that game comparison is going to happen and if you're paying $47,000 for a ship I got a bridge I got a bridge to sell you I got a bridge to sell you 100% Jones easy comparison third person action game in the same setting 1,000% if you think that it's not going to get compared to ghost toshima you're you're you're delusional not you anyone that thinks that embargo for Space Marines is at 12:00 noon so we start getting reviews then well we should be live we should be live by then still so maybe we'll get a review in Jessie Max says uh and give K handheld weapon besides just using your fist to slap trans uh Storm Troopers etc etc supposedly she gets like a a stun like uh like like a taser later I haven't gotten it yet how much is that bridge not interested if anything under 100K well lucky for you it's it's 400k so there you go let me know when you come I have to build it first water says I don't believe shadows will be better than ghosts but it'll be enjoyable sure I think people look people that like Assassin's Creed games there's going to be more people that like Assassin's Creed it'll be more of Assassin's Creed for them the problem is is there enough people that will buy the game or will it underperform from the last assassin's creed from the one before that let's let let me look it up real fast let's look at Assassin's Creed sales let's see if they they they show us first of all I doubt they'll show us God damage a lot of Assassin's Creeds that's not a sales chart though there is there is a lot of Assassin's Creed all right so so here you go I don't know how official this is or or not this is from Reddit okay it's taking here's a list of the first week sales again I don't know how accurate this is or anything but we're just using it as a reference okay so Assassin's Creed 1.24 million in the in in the first week Assassin's Creed 2 3.2 Assassin's Creed Brotherhood 2.15 Assassin's Creed Revelation 2.2 Assassin's Creed 3 3.5 Assassin's Creed 2.3 Assassin's Creed Unity 2 million Assassin's Creed Syndicate less than a million Assassin's Creed Origins less than 2 million uh Assassin Creed Odyssey less than what they made from Assassin Creed Origins bajala a little higher and then Assassin's Creed Mirage is about the same so they're all under 2 million okay now here's a list of four four months post launch sales okay so you got 5 million 9 million 7 million 7 million Assassin's Creed 3 13 uh four it's got 12 unity's got nine Syndicate no data because it's too low to to to figure it out Origins got 6 to7 Odyssey Got 5 to six vajala no data because it's like digital and Mirage got five I don't know how they're keeping track of that so again it looks like it looks like it's going the same way of like what Battlefield did Battlefield was slow in the beginning then made h huge huge during Bad Company Modern Warfare 3 or I'm sorry Bad Company 3 Battle company 4 and then started slowly going down and never hit that again that's what it looks like this is happening here it's it's down year over-ear it's down okay minus the vajala which doesn't really tell you but it's gone from 13 million to 12 to 9 to 7 to 6 to 5 so you see what I'm saying again we don't know how accurate that is but just as a reference something says I played Mirage thought it was a safe game as per Studio it did well according to inside gaming the game has accumulated 5 million players has also estimated 250 million in Revenue alter says I bet it's between 5 and 8 million due to how many updates they gave the game they supported it for like 3 years well I think here's the problem even if it the sales let's say it only made like 5 million copies right but then they people that bought the DLC not all 5 million people bought the DLCs that came out for that so it probably made more money than the rest but didn't sell as well but because the people bought the game and bought all the DLCs afterwards they probably made more money through that so less people bought the game but the people that bought the game spent more money in that game sad Kraken all right let's go to the next story which you know this this will never stop this will never stop I I didn't even know about this game didn't even I didn't even know about this game I think this game came out today or beta or Early Access uh we'll show you the numbers in a second uh we cover new stories here if you like what we do uh hit that like button hit that subscribe button we just cover new stories have conversations talk to live chat constantly do this if you like it again hit that subscribe button if You' like to go above and beyond that become a member as little as $5 we do this four days a week we do gameplay in the evenings we also end the week Thursday nights with a podcast called Generation X gaming it's a weekly podcast that goes over a few of the top stories from the past week and we rant along the way all right so Spectra divide launches with outrageous $90 gun skin out of the gate which only makes it broken matchmaking more annoying okay they looked at this and said wait a minute Call of Duty can charge $80 for a monkey glove let's get $90 gun skins okay so even though the game is broken and matchmaking is more annoying because it says it has a 41 uh I have 41 minutes in the launch version of Spectra divide a new Tactical firstperson shooter from Mountaintop Studios that also enjoys loads of buzz from valerant and Counter-Strike enjoyers through its closed and open betas normally 41 minutes is more fun than enough time to fit the match of Spectra but I've been stuck staring at the menus thanks to unfortunate matchmaking bugs I can't find a match despite around 30,000 people playing it and once I start the queue I can't cancel it unless it close the game that's fantastic that's that's fantastic right that's next level thinking how do we keep people from not leaving the game I know let's make just a a queue timer that never ends and if you back out you got to close the game out you just don't let them back out okay developer Mountaintop Studios has acknowledged the holdup and is working on a fix in the most recent update from the official Discord if you are uh in the queue longer than 11 minutes restart your client and then try again okay while waiting for the Unstoppable queue I tabbed over to the Spectra divide store and I was met with a familiar I isore a $90 skin bundle resting above the $45 skin bundle a cry kening bundle of $90 could be considered Spectra's Flagship microtransaction for launch day slapping sci-fi greedy uh greed greed grie leag and blue cryo FX on four of the shooters most uh popular guns and transforming the knife into a glowing blue uh hand ax cool is what I would be able to say but this gun fits if they weren't in so uh insultingly overpriced predictability some of folks are also Spectra divide Community are having a ton of a tough time with Spectra's cosmetic as well uh it says quote I'm one of those losers that buys skins right away but these are basic and I'm not even considering buying them wrote One user the current top uh top post of the Spectra divide subreddit what a shame I generally want to support the devs by purchasing something in the game but it's definitely not dropping $100 on some basic looking skin I don't understand I don't understand you guys that say you want to support the devs I I don't understand it okay a $100 for a skin $100 for your skin you are literally ruining the video game Space if you pay $100 for a skin meanwhile meanwhile games that come out Concord 40 bucks they like n that's [ __ ] but I'm going to pay $100 for a skin which you're going to change out 30 minutes later because you're going to buy another $40 skin or $20 skin or $60 skin I can't I I can't I can't it says uh you won't find any folks to defending mountaintops monetization choices oh I bet you will but the prices won't be shocking to players coming from valerant and competitive first-person shooter Spectra is the most alike valerant egregious skin prices are Infamous in the firstperson shooter Community a reputation that Riot has done nothing to mitigate over the years because a ton of people buy the stuff anyway that's correct so why would they change it why do you think the skin is $90 you don't think they did their research you didn't think they did the research and say well someone bought a $60 skin and someone bought a $70 skin and someone bought an $880 skin so let's let's just one up it Call of Duty charged a dollar for a rticle for a red dot reticle just like five years ago okay and everyone's talking about horse armor okay Call of Duty charged a dollar for a reticle okay I've seen uh a few valerant players point out that the detail Spectra's monetization is less friendly to Consumers okay inv valerant it's possible to buy individual skins from from a bundle for a lower price but Spectra's bundles are currently All or Nothing just a stinky choice of being made here yeah that's right because they they are greedy okay you want to support greedy cool enjoy okay because you're just be playing with less of a less of a player base cuz right now right now Spectra let me let me right alltime Peak right now 19,000 people are are playing okay 19,000 people are playing right now okay which which Concord would have loved or went out for Concord okay uh moving between uh game communities can sometimes feel arriving in a new country or different Customs okay a part of the world but get run out of the Town by trying to sell a weak sci-fi AK-47 and a bundle totaling $90 but it's also a country of Riot games which shares a border of the Republic of valve and those prices are common place Mountaintop is setting up a shop next door to doing the same thing standing next to the COS and cost something as much as as twoe grocery run and proudly declaring it worth it it's insulting as a beta player who has uh pretty jazzed up for the full version of Spectra but broadly it it's getting harder to enjoy an ongoing first-person shooter without feeling similarly exploited okay and I've clocked a rising blood uh boldness in freeto playay studios to upcharge its longtime players here here you know why they have a $90 thing cuz they don't believe that this game will last a year that's why they charge $90 okay and and this is just the this is the front end part right you paying $90 for a thing it doesn't matter if the game is successful if the game is not successful these games are not going to last if you like to spend your money how you want to spend your money fine but $90 for a gun skin $70 for a monkey glove $47,000 for a spaceship okay it's crazy it's not going to get better it's just going to get worse and just remember when Battlefield or Battlefront 2 came out Star Wars battle front 2 came out everyone was losing their [ __ ] because they had to pay $80 for Darth Vader what's the difference what's the difference because it's EA and this is an independent developer so it's okay for small developer to charge you $90 but not okay for a big company to charge you $90 keep the same energy level okay if it's bad that one company does it why is it better for the other someone please explain it to me okay so it says uh twoe grocery run probably declaring it's worth it but insulting the beta player okay uh I've clocked in a rising bloodiness of Apex Legends confusing the greedy battle pass mixup as partially walked back in July when I interviewed the game director Lee Horn uh in July just before Spectra divides reveal he told me that believes that Spectra is a good value of course he does he is the creator what what do you think he's going to come out and say yeah I don't think uh our pricing is very good or competitive I wouldn't buy it get [ __ ] One Core thing is that he says quote One Core thing that we don't sell power and you can pay for us nothing you can go pro and you can compete with the highest level without paying Oren said the way we support this is by making coolest content possible uh hopefully players see it's a good value and want to support that mountain top wants you to believe that we're actually the ones that deal here because we're getting a free-to-play game that's so good we're going to want to pay 10,000 hours even if that's extremely generous uh view of the images should also feel lucky to play such an elevated piece of software okay uh Mountain Top isn't blasting onto the first person scene with the pedigree of the biggest MOA on the planet it's a startup of a shooter devs making their first game Spectra is uh isn't beating the greed of allegations so far but a good start of begin getting a game working properly okay and here's the problem your [ __ ] game isn't working matchmaking and stuff isn't working but you know what works that godamn microtransaction store that works works so perfectly oh man no we you can't get into a match but you can look good doing it right oh man you can't play with your friends but godamn as those guns look good you're morons you're all morons buying $90 skins when the game doesn't work how about you let the game work first and then if it works then you could support the devs and go hey thanks for making a good game I'll pay you for some stuff right but these are just my thoughts let me know yours in the comments section down below please make sure sure you share like subscribe and if you like what I do here check out some of our other videos catch you on the next one n Tech says uh yes but it's not making decisions we went there played and gave a feedback like five times and said whether or not we can use the feedback uh we don't uh know on his channel for what what is that to to uh n Tech let me see uh Consulting work game is not on his game did sh okay this oh you're talking about uh his his game held hostage in the game that's right Vandal hey why you're waiting why don't you check out some of our cosmetics in our store I know our game's not working but you know what it could help us if you paid $90 for these G for this uh microtransactions we could get the servers working fuing amazing [ __ ] amazing first ascendant does the same thing can you play the first descendant can you get in a match of first descendant is the answer yes all right there's people that can't get into the game but they can get into the store P says that's crazy is there are some people that will actually pay $90 oh yeah that's nothing that's nothing DMX said I had a friend who spent $500 on gloves and Counter Strike I hope that friend doesn't ask you for like money like hey man couldn't pay my rent this month can you can you spot me some some bills I'm sure he's fine I'm joking there let's see salty says no wonder Transformers reactivate is nowhere to be seen hell at the time comes out salty they could be like yeah we're we're just charging $5 for microtransactions be like seems pretty good papa says $3200 for all achievements oh that's a deal that's a deal alter says $90 for a skin but people were mad that Outlaws charged $140 for the game but it's okay to pay that much for a stupid skin right alter right people will [ __ ] and moan that this game is broke buggy right that there's hundreds of hours of content in Starfield but they're upset with a $7 mission in that thing okay meanwhile meanwhile this game can't get into a game $90 for a for a bundle and everyone's like yeah it sounds [Laughter] good so ridiculous new tech says deadlock has so much lore in the game that you can also go with these new stands and they also tell you about the events going on in the world it's so creative and cool I have to I have to play it Eclipse gave me a a code for it I should go try it out go on Argus Kurt says the tides are turning money is shrinking up in the video game industry I don't know if the tides are turning I honestly don't they will keep the prices the same and they will just fire everybody else in the company this is how this is how the big wigs think they're like wait a minute we're not making a much enough sales to keep these people I know let's just fire everybody game's already out we'll have Ted and and Steve work on it and keep it maintained and then it's more money for us that's what they do it's called Spectra divide you could literally play through the entire campaign of the first descendant the entire campaign with story with bunny okay you can play the entire Campaign which is like 15 to 20 hours for free okay this is a multiplayer game that you have to play with other people waiting for a matchmaking thing and they're charging $90 for a skin it's not the same it's not the same did I read the comment before that project uh ASD is uh is shroud and sacre's game and guess who's making that game da da da Splash damage no bulkhead is not Splash damage bulkhead I'm pretty sure it's bulkhead isn't it not Splash damage I got to look it up I'm pretty sure it's bulkhead bulkhead dcom next big shooter or is that bulkhead oh that's bulkhead there's a game called bulkhead there's another there's another thing that works with Splash damage and they're making they're making I could have sworn they're making it with uh with shroud I got to find the what's his game that he's making what's it called does he have a name for it yet that's that one with the cartoony look right oh Spectra divide is his game isn't it Spectre divide project a stare I'm confused he's talking about 3 weeks ago about this game official gameplay of a new 3v3 Tactical shooter where you control two bodies so he's working on another game or is this two separate games so Splash damage is working on it okay or is he just sponsored by Spectra divide the partnership is a bold step forward in the new era of Splash damage and follows the announcement Transformers reactivate and are acquisition of the UK based bulkhead in addition we're also formed an in-house uh house publishing team project EST stair gives us the opportunity to build uh a new original world like Brink and dirty bomb however it now have a freedom to do so so in much more ambitious scale uh COO of Splash damage said funding from the friends that also met Online PVP Splash damage has been passionate about crafting Unforgettable multiplayer experience for 20 years uh project aair is also a culmination of the passion born out of partnership with the two close friends who also happen to be incredibly well-respected experts in the industry Dave Miller head of publishing is also new area of Splash damage is about uh about doing things differently it's also owning the entire process from concept to publishing bringing the new guys right at the start process allows us to do the knowledge experience and collaborating them something truly unique in genre it's currently in pre-production and we can't wait to reveal more of the in the near future interesting so they're they're putting out they're putting out the the the shooter first so they can make some more money what's going on lurer so we're about to get we're about to get overwhelmed with more with more looter Shooters fantastic fantastic I'll be honest Noob I don't even know when I'll have time maybe over the weekend maybe I'm not really interested in those types of games but all right we got uh I want to read I guess why Concord failed first and then we'll go into Concord developers Express gratitude for the support of the following sudden uh shutdown okay cuz we got to we got to beat a dead hores what's in the news this is a new game Robert Jones um from from shroud and sacel um working with Splash damage we don't know the name of it yet what salty is saying is the reason that Transformers reactivate is not coming out uh one of the reasons maybe is that they're working on another game as well even though Transformers reactivate was done then handed off to Splash damage then with bulkhead and then they're both working on it uh to get it out but they've been quiet for like a year and a half almost two years now thoughts on the Minecraft trailer uh it looks worse than Borderlands dolphin that's my uh initial reaction to it it looks worse than the than the Borderlands trailer when we saw the Borderlands trailer and I've seen the Borderlands movie now uh and Minecraft looks worse than that but saying that it'll make a billion dollars just off the Minecraft name alone salty says it's like they're they're stretching themselves uh too thin I think Hasbro had some other plans I think as has a lot to do with why Transformers reactivate is not out yet I personally think they're they're doing they're releasing Transformers one then they're releasing Earth spark uh the cartoon season 2 or whatever I think they're building up the uh the the popularity of Transformers they're going to hit you they're do like a onew punch type of thing leading up to it all right let's go to this next article about why Concord fail this is coming from IGN if you guys like what I do here we just read news articles give you my thoughts and opinions have conversations with you guys in chat hit that like button down below hit that subscribe button down below if you like to go above and beyond that become a member as little as f $5 all right so why Concord failed updated yesterday uh on September 3rd PlayStation has announced that after a week and a half since launch Concord will be going offline this week PlayStation is also offering full refunds for players across PlayStation and PC and Below opt in to our look into the Concord negativity reflects the increasing development times of AAA games hampering studio uh Readiness and to come out in the market that has changed since development first begins this is the worst font in the ever right like just bracketed or something so we know it's the update so Concord PlayStation online hero shooter from first party Studio firewalk launches this week this is the article that we read I think last week so this is the update to it okay they just they just changed it okay yeah it was posted on the 29th updated on the third so I I don't actually need to read this okay so they're just giving you an update so let's go to this one instead right so Concord developer expresses gratitude okay for support following the sudden shutdown for all of you reaching out out with love you're the reason we make games so take this what you want okay I read this and I was just like the the 200 people that bought the physical copy the less than 25,000 people that bought your game that's that's why you make games for the small portion of the population of all the people on planet Earth you this is why you make the reason you make games okay now amidst the ugly grave Dancing firewalks St is seeing love from fans and fellow developers okay I went off yesterday about that's not how business works okay obviously obviously there's always going to be people that are supportive and there's people that are realists or you know if a product sucks right if I buy this phone and this phone sucks I'm going to tell you why the phone sucks right I want my money back if it doesn't work it's well people design design this phone and this phone was designed by thousands of people and they worked really hard on that as a customer I don't care I don't buy it because Tim Suzie and Ted all worked on the phone I buy it because oh cool it's a phone I can make phone calls I can surf the web does it do those things well if it does those things well and I like it I will give you money for that thing okay but if it doesn't work well and it's not working okay well then I want my money back okay and it's a bad product so if a company goes under because they make a bad product if it's a physical good if it's a mouse if it's a phone if it's a pencil if it's batteries if it's a game it doesn't matter okay so there's people that we we love our trash Knights here okay right trash Knights are people that they like trash stuff and they defend it they're they're trash Knights okay and they defend it with all their heart because they feel like if they don't defend it it's something against them personally which is not the case okay if a game is bad okay and for the last couple days and weeks I've been talking about Star Wars Outlaws I love Star Wars Outlaws I'm having fun with Star Wars Outlaws but I can also tell you it is not a complete game okay it's far off from a complete game they have lots more stuff to do to fix that game to get to a point where people would be like hey you know what this is a really good game okay it's not there it's not a trash game it's not a trash game okay but in no way shap performs you defend something because you enjoy it enjoy what you enjoy but don't defend it because you spent your money on it okay goods are made some are made better some are made there's cheap glass there's expensive glass there's cheap products there's expensive products right products are good products are bad you can't always have a Blockbuster in a movie can't always have a bestseller for a book you can't have a number one hit album and you can also never be the best game sold of the Year okay there's it's very hard to hit all these things okay so the sudden shutdown newly launched hero shooter Concord sparked an entirely unsurprising wave of unfortunate grave dancing this this whole thing of uh it's like everyone gets a participation trophy your game is broke your game didn't sell well it's a failure I'm sorry your son failed school these are facts right if Concor was a kid hi Concord how are you oh you failed your test you you're being held back concord's being held back back right now okay sorry Concord maybe you'll learn from your mistakes and you'll become a better person right maybe maybe you become a better game unfortunate grav dancing amongst people who are also just decried the game is being too woke and this is this is this is where I want to like tune off because that's not why the game failed okay that was part of the reason that it failed okay because there's more people that don't like that stuff then obviously like that stuff okay and then there's other people that don't even don't care and they'll buy it regardless okay it says rather than being being a game for gamers whether they was supported uh uh supposed to mean but amidst all the predictable sounds of Fury there's also messages to support the developers at firewalk Studios and express the Hope from fans of Concord will be back okay Concor went into full release on August 23rd which means it lasted only 11 days before firewalk and Sony had enough okay had had seen enough right cuz it was dead people are just sitting there going right they were they were just shooting it and kicking it and they're like you know what maybe we should maybe we should bite the bullet on this one it's it's hard to overstate what a highspeed train W is represents Amazon's Crucible lasted more than a month oh my God I forgot about The Crucible we destroyed The Crucible when The Crucible came out okay that came out of beta went back into beta like it was it was bad okay lasted more than a month and relaunched in 2020 while valve ccg artifact made it almost 3 years okay me skule player counts before the accident finally even Infamous Anthem struggled along for a couple years before Electronic Arts threw in the towel the only faster cancellation that comes immediately in mind is the day before which went under in just four days and took the entire development Studio or perhaps I should say uh a porta development Studio which lasting just one week longer than the day before well that's really not great now think about that you had a bunch of people that were trying to scam you okay whatever they were doing with the day before that lasted 4 days this is a company that spent hundreds of millions of dollars made a game for eight years and they only ended up six days longer than that game that's crazy okay it also stands in very sharp contrast with the confidence Sony seemed to have in the Game pre-release Sony acquired firewalk in 2023 solely on the perceived strength of Concord the Amazon based in episodes of its own upcoming video game series secret level is on it okay so that'll come out later and we'll see if they take it out or if they're going to keep it in there maybe they'll use it maybe they'll launch that and then after that errors that's when they'll reann nowc Concord maybe okay uh the near complet his uh this interest in the game subsequently decision to give up on it after less than two weeks is a tough to see from an outside looking in and no doubt so much tougher for developers to experience the firsthand the fact that acknowledged by any other uh game makers on social media there's also going to be a lot of takes uh uh today and we wanted to say this is launching a game is so [ __ ] hard but a bunch of incredible talented work to bring in the game to us Bungie and blizzard veteran uh darling Nelson tweeted firewalk didn't deserve this and I hope that the team can recover for recruit uh from this here's the thing no one said they deserved to fail they were just not one marketing it two they were coming out with a hero shooter in a overpopulated hero shooter realm in 2024 three they were coming out with a game that was $40 in a free-to-play market okay four they had Dei and they were pushing it going oh well if you don't like the characters I mean there's literally he him pronouns for a trash can in the game okay is that the main reason the game failed no it's it's problems one through four is the why the reason that this game failed okay it says I don't want to retweet or clickbait attract trolls so I'll just uh say my heart goes out to everyone firewalk Studios regarding news today okay he says uh [ __ ] the last of us and Uncharted writer Josh Shear okay like nobody nobody is going out to try to cancel the studio they put a product out and the product didn't sell it didn't sell you got to go back to the drawing board now is it worth is it worth going back to the drawing board at this point I think it is I think at this point they're going to look and go well how can we save this right it's not unheard of that it can't get saved right no man's Sky came out and it was it was hor but it it it turned itself around and then 8 years later here we are it's one of the better games out there okay Rainbow Six Siege came out and it it it flopped and then they they turned it around okay Ubisoft with uh um uh for honored right turned itself around and became a better game right there's games that come out that are bad that are multiplayer and whatnot that they can turn around fortnite probably one of the biggest success things that people don't ever realize okay is that when they came out with save the world save the world was dead they don't even bring it up in the article okay save the world was dead in less than 3 weeks four weeks but because they shifted okay to uh to fortnite BR all of a sudden everyone thinks that fortnite V was fortnite okay fortnite bombed okay it was terrible but nobody ever remembers that and now everyone's like oh fortnite BR is the best number one played game on the internet right so to say that Concord is done done it could be but I think that Sony looks at it and says that we can give it a little bit more put a little bit more money into it because the long term if it comes back out being a free-to-play game with microtransactions hell the other divided Spectra divide is selling a $90 bundle for skins concord's going what the hell like Concord okay would die for these numbers okay and you know there's a percentage paying $90 for that skin in that game okay meanwhile Concord is is dead dead in the water so you know for a fact that Sony's like what can we do to bring this back from the brink okay so people out here and these are the people that are coping okay they're giving support to the developers because they feel like the developers are are the reason that it failed um but it's everything that failed the developers wanted to make this game they made this game and it just wasn't for the market where is this modern audience that everyone keeps talking about okay all these modern audience films shows and now video games no one's playing no one's watching no one's buying no one's buying this stuff okay it says suing love and team with firewalk Studios today I'm sure this news is hard for all the folks who are invested in the years to bring in Concord to players look until they get fired they're okay they're still getting a check they're still making their weekly uh salaries or you know what I mean okay uh to all folks who worked on Concord firewalk Studios you have my love sympathy and you can also imagine that you're also going through today they didn't get fired they didn't get fired they got they got their money okay God sorry to be uh clearly talented Folks at firewalk Studios it's polished looking good game but high price pointing launching into a saturated Market was always going to be difficult this is such a strange situation to unwrap it it really isn't it really isn't you said it in your Tweet okay you're launching into a saturated market and you're charging money for it I can literally go play any other game for free right on top of that I can pay for a small little fee and go play on Game Pass I can spay a small little fee and go play another game on PlayStation Plus I can play a small little fee and go play Amazon Luna okay uh the question hanging over Concord right now is what's next firewalk said that they wanted to explore options and it's possible that Concord could come back at some point in the future retooled and possibly free to play that's not unprecedented uh gigantica which just came out what 6 years later came back out for instance returned as a free-to-play game earlier this year six actually you know what let's go look at that number what what is what is that going to be is it on Steam yeah I'm sure it'll be fine I'm sure it'll be fine okay I'm sure it'll be fine this is the relaunch of gigantica six years after okay is that true is that is that y yep there's is that the re the relaunch was in April right the the relaunch was in April and then it went down from there yeah it's going to be uphill battle for them okay so for instance the return is a free to-play game earlier this year six years after it was shut down Ubisoft for Honor stumbled badly there you go see bringing up past things before they released a free starter Edition sparked a turnaround and let us not forget cyberpunk 2077 which one now loves and kick off the PlayStation store for 6 months you can't you can't put cyber punk in this conversation cyber Punk was a broken buggy single player game and it didn't depend on anybody like like if you want to go play cyber Punk if it was broken buggy you could still go play it on your own okay in in Concord and all these other games you need other people to play you need other people to play gigantica you need other people to play for Honor you need other people to play Rainbow 6 you need other people to play these games because they're multiplayer they live or die with the popul that's playing the actual game okay so that's a stupid thing to put in there okay uh was kicked off on PlayStation for more than six bus because it was such a disaster at launch some Concord fans are also hoping that similar outcomes here for at least firewalk won't suffer the layoffs or any outright closure or results of the game's failure I said it yesterday and I'll say it again I don't think they'll do layoffs right now I don't think so I think they're going to re-evaluate they're going to restructure what they're doing okay um and decide if they want to go free to play which I think they will or they go into a model of where they're pushing it towards a uh PVE type of thing okay but I think they go free to play and then they charge microtransactions season passes cuz that game is done when they said there was no season passes and battle passes coming to the game and only cosmetic stuff that was Concord of old this is going to be Concord 2.0 and that's going to come out and it will have season passes it will have battle passes and they' be idiots not to put it on Playstation if if it's not free to play they should put it on PlayStation Plus to get people out there now I don't know what they do for if it's not free to play it should go free to play it should be everywhere not only should it be on Playstation not only should it be back on PC but they should put it out on all consoles possible out there so people can play it okay because you Sony fans out there that love to protect Sony you didn't buy it you make fun of other people for not buying games you didn't buy it right PC players didn't buy it Sony players didn't buy it nobody bought it all right so people that say well this company doesn't buy games or these this fan base doesn't buy games you are now that fan base you let your first party title game be the worst launch in the history of video games entirety congratulations not only are you the number one selling console in the industry you also have the shittiest game ever to be released in the market of triaa it's amazing okay uh one person says I hope this is something firewalk Studios can recover from there's lots of talented behind the developers and the consumer I'm always looking forward to WEA projects uh that are part in the future and thanks for the free Gunner experience uh said he had to go out in the way it did make a game sell a game make a game sell a game truly deserves so much better games fail all the time concords in leagues above them in terms of fun factor in general quality part goes out to them team firewalk Studios you made a great game no they didn't and if uh we see it again we'll we'll be up in open arms if we don't had a blast okay uh so it just it just goes on and on people trying to cope that it wasn't a bad game it was a bad game because from your perspective of a gamer it wasn't a bad game but from the company's point of view it was it was an abysmal game okay it doesn't matter how shiny and good-looking it looks okay because it didn't sell okay firewalk Studios hasn't commented on the shutdown or the future of concore Beyond today's announcement but design director Josh hamri expressed the Gratitude to shows the support the extended to Developers for all of you reaching out with love you are the reason they're making games H tweeted thank you for the bottom of my heart and now I'm going to win with the era area arena control well there's going to be no in there for you know I guarantee you there was an uptake in Concord sales yesterday just for the fact that when they canceled it and said Friday nobody's going to be able to play this game more people went out and bought a hard copy of the game not because they want to go play the game because they want to capitalize that there was less than a th000 units sold of uh a hard copy so there's hard copies out in the world right now that if you pick it up it literally is one of one whatever okay not not hundreds of thousands not Millions thousands of copies that are out there so you could pick one up and actually make money you could make more money than Concord did okay off of their game by just reselling it someone yesterday I think it was water bear said on the internet right now they're selling Concord physical copies for $140 fantastic okay Fantastic look they're going to have to do a lot to bring this game back Anthem lasted another almost uh a year for them behind the scenes working on the game before they decided to close down and said yeah we're not we're not doing it okay Marvel's Avengers lasted six more months and then another year before they decided to close it down themselves as well they're going to look at and see is it worth the money if they can't come up with a business plan for it to re-evaluate I don't know what wayfinder is doing I know wayfinder is another game that came out uh let's see what wayfinder is doing right wayfinder not doing very well okay this is another game that was an MMO okay that switched up to more of a single campaign but it's too late first impressions are everything it came out okay and it was one game and then they switched to another okay it would have been different if they went to a free-to-play model uh and then it wasn't an MMO but was I I don't know I know it was it was a Founders pack beforehand right it was supposed to be free to play but then it never went free to play it was always a Founders pack H and then they switched it up to a completely different game so I don't know if Concord is going to make it or not but I don't believe anyone's going to lose their jobs at least anytime soon in the next couple months I say six months they'll reevaluate it look at it and go okay cuz in their wording yesterday they said that we're they're pulling it down to re-evaluate to see what they're going to talk about once they figure that out they'll put it back out it'll come out and will they make more money well they put $90 microtransactions in there uh maybe they will but who knows these are just my thoughts let me know yours in the comments section down below please make sure you share like subscribe and if you like what I do here please check out some of our other videos thanks for watching all right let me see what you uh guys are saying I'm go back up here uh but Anthem had everything we wanted but the biggest let down they had no end game it had no end game I forgot about the day before that was just earlier this year Kyle that was just earlier this year I remember walking out with a fresh Javelin and jumping off and feeling like an Iron Man oh yeah with yeah so good in Anthem uh concord's uh concord's parents look Concord should be getting the fs in this uh the school's fault right Concord is bored just a smart uh just too smart and needs special attention right that's what they're that's what they uh it's nothing they did everyone did a perfect job I said the analogy about a football team or baseball team or a hockey team any sports team you can get all the greatest players to come on your team but if they don't gel then the the product is [ __ ] and if your product is [ __ ] people don't come in the stands right and then if people don't come in the stands they lose money and if they lose money well guess what they have to do they got to fire people that's what happens or right those people that they have they're like you better get better because we got a lot of money riding on you everything compounded on each other yeah it wasn't because it was woke it wasn't because of this it wasn't because of that it was because of everything everything that happened the the little marketing the wokeness the Dei the $40 price tag the unoriginal content that they had in the game which as far as it it felt the exact same of every other her shooter it was everything about it the trash can was a better best character excuse me Jones you have to say he him pronouns for the trash can okay you have to say he him it's his pronouns you can't you can't dead name the trash can I don't even know the trash can's name I I I can't even I don't even know his name what was the trash can's name I also don't care what the trash can's name is alter it failed because another hero shooter they could rework the game into a PVE Co-op Mission based for mode extraction PVE shooter even then I think it's it's overs saturation I think no matter what they do I think the game is is going to have a hard time finding a uh it's its core fan base they got to do something they got to do something pretty pretty different to stand out crow says I hope this is a failure uh of conquor as a wake up call for these devs the team will be fired I don't know if they'll be fired not yet I think you're right they will be fired just not yet yeah but no man's sky made the money at release concore was an open beta and no one wanted to play it going free to play uh will not help it you're absolutely correct about that Eclipse like no man sky made a crap ton of money and then people were disappointed they paid that money okay and then they fixed it over that time but they made so much money up front they didn't have to worry about it they just had to wait for that contract to end with Sony before they could start doing stuff that's why they went dead silent for two years concord's only chance to go free to play and on all platforms that might not even work but it's but it's a shot right what do you got to lose what do you got to lose vandal Kyle says games like uh csgo will never die this is why Spectra uh divide has semide decent numbers we'll see I mean there's only so many people that can go around to play all these games once once it breaks ex thei is losing numbers right I know a lot of people say well it's got a lot of people playing it still but they've lost a ton of numbers why because they're going to go play another same type of game in a different area you got to remember just because the player base drops doesn't mean it's it's bad it's the player base drops that's not spending money you see what I'm saying if it's the people that are leaving you can have you can have a million people playing your game but if no one's spending money then that game's not making money it's got a player base but they're not making money you could have a player base of 10,000 people playing your game and if 9,000 people are paying for that game or paying for uh uh season pass or whatever that's more successful than the million people playing the game that's free to play you see what I'm saying we don't know the stats so when you look at X defiant and say well it's got good numbers you're assuming that a percentage of people let's say 10% 15% are paying for microtransactions if you have a more people playing potentially you have more people buying potentially but we don't know what the numbers are dark Taco says I'd rather play cyberpunk at 12 frames per second at launch on PlayStation 4 instead of Concord yeah because you can play it you can play it dark Taco you don't need anybody else to load up your game and play Robert Jones says if they do uh PVE I hope they bring back uh the PVP I see here's the thing I don't understand OverWatch set the tone of people wanted PVE for years and years and years then they they know it and they they sold you the hype of OverWatch 2 with PVE and then they got rid of it yet there's all these other hero shooters that are coming out and they're doing the exact same thing OverWatch is doing not making a PVE I think it's dumb I think they could have been different and made a PVE PVP type of game like a destiny but you make it an arena thing if people just want to play that they play it separate the two so you have a player base that plays just the PVP and then if you have people that want to come in play the PVE put it down come back put it down come back every time you add more content but they don't want to put the work in to get the money out they just want to put the minimal viable product out to make the most money possible Ro kill says and and we are the worst fans if we support the game because we never want another game like that so that uh makes no sense why would we support support it if we don't want anything like that well there'll be people that support it I mean look there's people that support it now if you're not first you're last that's right ree says literally just a few hours before they announced shutting it down Ponies were claiming it was fourth on the top selling PlayStation 5 great let's let's use that as an example cuz you guys like bringing this up all the time I'm not saying you Rees like for this but you you brought up a good point people love bringing up lists and how they're on number one on the list or number five on the list or number 10 on the list that means absolutely nothing one and two if they show the sales numbers completely different aspect one could have sold a th000 units two could have sold 10 units that's it and then everyone behind that sold like 98 765 right we have no idea okay we do know about black myth Wukong because they said there was 3 million consecutive people playing okay and you can figure it out like 20% of of of steam had this many and 20% of so you could say there was 2 million to 2 and a half million people playing on Playstation okay so if it was number one on Playstation you know that's the top 2.5 million and then everybody else after that is below that right so go to rank 53 they could have sold two copies and it would have been 53rd on the list right I hate when people bring up list with no actual factual sales numbers or anything like that to say like well it's number one on the list great how many did it sell this is the same thing that we talked about when people were like oh well the the PlayStation portals are flying off the shelves well how many did they have at the how many did they have in the store was it a th000 or was it 10 it doesn't matter it's flying off the shelves no it does matter it does matter beand says the people that won't pay $40 to play this game with free skins then why would they pay $30 for a battle pass to get skins the game is done be H why do people pay for $90 microtransactions why do people pay for $500 microtransactions these are questions you're going to have to PE ask the people that actually pay $30 for battle passes and skins and all these other things I can't answer that question for you cuz I don't pay for $30 skins I don't pay for shitty microtransactions so that's a question you're going to have to ask the people that actually like to spend their money because they're there there's plenty of people out there that will spend that money no problem roadkill says firewalk Studios is dead they're dead the name is Dead PlayStation don't doesn't want anything to do with them and there's no way they're going to get let fireworks make another game that seems a little bit a little bit over harsh doesn't it on Amazon there there was less than 500 bought Concord PlayStation 5s in the last month on Amazon and a box store on a box store there was less than that I think there was less than 252 sales from a big box store someone said that on a podcast they didn't say what Box Store it was Jack says Concord is off digital storefronts and physical copies exclusive now but seriously hope they bounce back from this they tell all the retailers to stop selling it uh it's still being uh it's still being bought well yeah it's a collector's item now it's a collector's item now you imagine 20 years from now right someone's like I have an original copy of Concord one of 400 in the world be like holy [ __ ] right for a collector that'd be that'd be a big a big collector that'd be a big win water bear says uh what's the point of releasing game super early like like Space Marines 2 for streamers to play it wouldn't it ruin the story for those uh who are watching yes yes yes it would Klo says Acer just announced a handheld PC Robert Jones says firewalk devs might quit before going back to Bungie says Concord coming back is a freet to-play hero shooter will have it fail again if they still use the Concord name if any form it will fail yeah they have to remarket or whatever they're going to do they have to do something with the kreb if it comes back as Concord or not it's still a game that's developed you know what I mean like they would have to come back with something but it's coming back as a free to play whatever it does it's coming back as freet to play it's not coming back as a paid robertt Jones says funny if the skin Swap all the characters and name re-release all the God can you imagine Jones if they take all the characters that look woke right and they redesign every single one of them and then just put it back out as the same game but it's free to play but with cool looking characters now he says the point is that people are uh obviously playing lots of other games games on PlayStation 5 and just not the new stuff that they're putting out like Concord what I was saying that people don't buy games Z is that Sony fans make fun of Xbox fans for not buying their games because of Game Pass and yet there's a game first party title and yet no one bought it these are facts now these are facts because it bombed so dramatically we know that no one bought it if I had free money I would buy Concord controller and lock it up somewhere yeah here that's that's that's going to be a collector's item huh imagine someone buying the the controller and then Concord never comes back and they like what is this controller from well back in my day there was this game called concour it'd be like holding the Babe Ruth you get you get the developers to sign the controller you put it in and then you can make a a retelling story of Sandlot but instead it sets place in a video game realm and someone is trying to play they find their dad's old console and they're like oh my God I have a controller for this and they grab it from the mantle from their dad's place and they open up the Concord signed controller and they start playing games with it and they start I want to play I want to play and they break the controller and then you can make sand lot to but we call it gamer couch or whatever look at that look at that look at that story I just came up with fantastic that would make more money than Borderlands that would make more money than Border's land we'll work on the title we'll work on the title controller wouldn't be worth it imagine a game that didn't exist that you own a controller of let's let's look it up right now I I want to look it up right now let's see right [Laughter] now right now Concord is selling for $90 rare Concord PlayStation 5 in hand brand new Sony PlayStation one down here PlayStation Concord physical copy pulled from shelves rare sealed $150 and that's today and that's today 18 Watchers 18 Watchers I mean I might I might have to go to GameStop today and see if they have a a copy of it it's totally worth $40 and I can triple my money today because some Sony fan out there or some collector will buy that and they'll buy it again and again because if they own more copies of the very rare copies out in the wild then they can they can manipulate the price cuz there's only out what's out there there's only what's out there okay look everyone's like I'm going to Walmart after work and what's even better what's even better if the game re releases get this now okay if the game re-releases and they don't make a hard copy then the game then succeeds then you will have a physical copy of a game that is successful or it shits the bed again shit's the bed again can you imagine oh my God it can [ __ ] the bed twice within a year it's the first thing out of my mouth DJ when I saw I was like thereal copies people going to buy those there's more people it's almost like what happened to Borderlands nobody saw it in theaters it went on YouTube more people watched it on YouTube in less than a day than they did in the entire two weeks it was out okay more people bought Concord yesterday than they did when the game was actually working ah the world what a great place gra says off topic but did you see that Nvidia lost 280 billion of its value in one day no no I did not I can't find it in GameStop store interesting you know why because the GameStop employees use their discount and bought that copy so they can post it up on uh on eBay all right let me close this down we're done talking about Ubisoft been talking about that done talking about encore Bo oh here's the next story Nvidia got hit with the uh lawsuit but it was fishy people knew about it before uh hand and sold heavy interesting interesting Z says oh on one second Z says uh concore will be the game listed on PlayStation 5 Pro bundle concore 2.0 the rebirth that's what they'll call it they'll call it the rebirth it won't be called Concord it'll be called rebirth if that happens uh copyright uh trademark patent pending right if that happens I will laugh my ass off can you imagine the the the emote of me doing this would would go to the next level if it if it came out it was called reborn all right the next the next story Flight of the Concords nice Jones nice okay so the next St I want to talk about is Microsoft confirms black myth Wukong delay not due to platform limitations comments on exclusivity okay if you guys don't know this story last week Paul tassy well actually before last week the week before a couple days before game science came out and said that it's not on Xbox uh because now the developers of the actual game said we're working on optimizing it uh for it because we're having technical issues whatever for Xbox so then everybody in the entire video game world was like oh it's because of the Xbox series s okay then it came out just a couple days three days later I think and we talked about it on Thursday night's podcast Generation X gaming we talked about it and said that well who are we supposed to believe are we supposed to believe game science who are the developers of the game saying why it's not on Xbox or are we supposed to listen to the journalists that say that they have a source that says that someone said that it's not because of uh of the technical issues it's because of exclusivity okay so me and SARS talked about that on Thursday if you like to go watch that it's it's in chapter marked below go or chapter marked in that video for Generation X gaming episode 408 okay now Paul tassy he's been getting run through the ringer on on social media because of it okay now he came back with another article talking about more comments here right so we're going to read that I have hav't read this yet if you like what we do here hit that like button hit that subscribe button we read articles have conversations give you my thoughts and opinions on it if you like that hit that like hit the Subscribe if you like to go above and beyond that become a member as little as $5 okay so uh Microsoft confirmed uh blackm Wukong delay not due to platform limitations comments on exclusivity now in a statement given to me by Microsoft representative in the company has confirmed that the delay of black myth Wukong is not due to technical issues with Xbox platforms and is instead similar to the original statement uh points to outside platform developer deals okay the statement reads quote as have we said before we've excited for the launch of Blackmouth Wukong on Xbox series X and S and we're working with the game science to bring the game to our platforms we prefer not to comment on other deals made by our partners with platform holders but we can confirm that the delay is not due to the Xbox platform limitations and have been raised to us okay so again it's not because of the series s even though that's that's what people think it's from okay now the statement reinforces my earlier reporting which is Paul tassi as an issue with black myth Wukong delayed release on Xbox is not technical in nature and and not because of some issue with the series S as many people speculated as of Microsoft is now saying that outright Microsoft did not comment on any specifics of the deal between game science and Sony but again like their original statements have pointed out directly to the possibilities when making a statement above delayed he says my report and collaborated by IGN was disp Ed by industry insiders who claim to have heard that they simply PlayStation providing cash and resources for Wukong to make it on the platform uh to their platform uh here is very much evident that is Al such exclusivity deals does not in fact include traditional marketing and I talked about that as well on gxg okay just just because they have the exclusivity doesn't mean they get the marketing deal there are two separate things okay uh include traditional marketing and may not even have included traditional payment making the situ ation uniquely strange I've reached out to game science and Sony for comment and we'll update if I hear back okay uh in this situation this complicated multiple things that can be true if Sony helped game science with a paid Tech work in exchange for a prior uh period of exclusivity that would certainly not be traditional exclusivity deal with it so-called money hat keeping the off off the Rival platforms and allowing it for big PS side marketing push okay there are no specific terms of the deal known so though Microsoft has twice now pointed directly into that Direction with public statements on the other side if game science and Sony have not revealed the nature of this exclusivity Arrangement at this point they will likely not going forward going forward okay game science has already issued a conflicting statement with Microsoft sighting ongoing optimization with the Xbox hardware and that's not explained here again I've asked for them to clarification okay so before we continue so game science the developers themselves have said okay there's the source they made the game they've said that look Microsoft is ongoing optimization with the Xbox Hardware but that's not explained here okay game science has come out again the developers of the game have said that this is the reason that it's not on Xbox if that's false or true again we don't know but if it is false they're [ __ ] lying Sony's lying okay but they're not lying because the technically Sony hasn't said anything okay but game science is lying because they're holding back going well no we took money we took money from Sony we can't tell that we got exclusivity with Sony we have to say that it's because we're optimizing it for Xbox meanwhile Paul went over to Xbox and said hey Xbox uh is it because there's a problem with the S he's like no there's no optimization problem here uh so now again people are looking at Microsoft saying well they're lying because there is an optimization problem because of the series s even though Microsoft says there is no problem with this game science says there is a problem with optimization but they said that there is exclusivity deal right pushing towards exclusivity deal and if this is true this goes back and I brought this up on gxg on Thursday night I said Sony is known to done this in the past they even brought it up during the FTC trial that they didn't want Call of Duty coming over uh exclusivity because they would make a worse product for them and Microsoft said no we're not going to make a worse product for you but why would Sony even say that unless they've done that in the past themselves okay so now you look at this and said well they're not making a worse game for uh for blackm Wukong on Xbox they're just getting exclusivity deal but they're not getting exclusivity deal they probably just paid money again this is my speculation based on all of the stuff that we're reading okay my speculation is that Sony did give game science money okay now the truth will come out some way shape or form okay and I said this Thursday and I'll say it again when it does come out who's telling the truth you're going to realize is Paul tassy lying and is he full of crap is game science lying are they full of crap and then one of them's lying and one of them is not lying you make the choice on which one that will be and the the truth will come out down the road but people are saying that the reason is because the Xbox series s and Xbox is like that's not the reason that this is delayed on the Xbox okay which is another conversation it could be because if they did at the same time they could be holding back because of the series s but that's not what this story is about the story is that game scien didn't bring it out to Xbox at the same time as PlayStation because sources that are undisclosed said that it's because they have an exclusivity deal with Sony so I go back to like last Thursday who we supposed to believe in this Reports say that game science said it's because of this other Reports say Source says that it's not because of this it's because of that until the actual truth comes out you have to make the choice yourself on which one is telling the truth okay it says there remains no timeline as when that blacksmith Wukong has reportedly also already removed 10 million or already moved 10 million copies and arrived on Xbox there's nothing to indicate that it's a permanent exclusive not temporary but exact time frames were were not uh remain unknown Microsoft is doing a battle with developers uh limitations of the series s but they are not but they are saying on the record that the platform limitations are not the problem here okay so now we'll wait and see what black myth Wukong actually arrives on Xbox okay so I'll be I'll be honest I think Paul tassy is more inclined to be telling the truth here now say what you want about Paul tassy okay if you like him if you don't like his opinions you do like his opinions okay I knew Paul for about a year year and a half we were on a podcast together um you know we disagree on certain things you don't like them you do like them whatever but for him to put himself out there and say that this is what it is going against what game science is saying it's pretty ballsy because just like I just said if it comes out that game science is telling the truth then it decits Paul okay like factually credits him but if he's correct then it pops Paul up on a higher pedestal because he's actually reporting and telling you what is happening but people don't like it because they don't like him or whatever reason okay so whatever the case may be I'm leaning more towards Paul telling the truth here than game science and corporations cuz you guys know me I never side with corporations because corporations by Nature lie all the time wording is different in certain things okay so it's very it's very strange situation here who do you believe cuz game journalists right now are also getting rung through the because there's a lot of journalists out there that are not journalists there's a lot of other people that are bloggers that just say [ __ ] to get clicks but then there's actual people trying to tell you something but they get Blended in with the rest of the stuff but these are just my thoughts let me know yours in the comments section down below what do you think do you think game science is the one lying do you think Paul tassy is the one the lying do you think Xbox is the one that's lying let me know in the comments section let me know in the live chat and if you like this hit that like button hit that subscribe button if You' like to go above that please uh make sure you hit that like or hit that uh membership button for as little as $5 thanks for watching all right krey says Paul's repeating the information for the check notes uh third time I personally don't care uh what almost anyone says on this topic unless it's from Sony game science or someone like Jason shrier but that last part in your thing there or from Jason shrier Jason's earn your respect because of his reporting you don't like Paul for whatever reason you got to take that part out it's got to be from game science Sony Xbox and one of those three is telling the truth okay one of those three is going to be telling the truth and when they do it'll either prove or disprove Paul okay uh AK papa says notice he doesn't mention who actual source is again on the other BS article I only trust game science but that's the thing right I don't trust corporations game sence hasn't earned my trust just because they made a video game they don't earn my trust right if they come out and say that that this game is delayed because of this reason and then all of a sudden it gets proven it's not well then I can't trust game science he doesn't have any sources he has a source he can't tell you his source and that is this that is the murky part a lot of reporters that do they don't have sources that tell you who the source is right alass he uh be like see guys I'm not lying I know what what I'm talking about I'm not crazy but if he's both crazy and a liar he could be right but the truth always will come out ree says seems like people just don't want this to be the true yeah that's exactly right my my my stance on this is just like on Thursday when me and sge were talking about it who am I supposed to believe I read news okay and if one article says that game science says this and another article says no no no that's not who am I supposed to believe as a person that's just reading articles okay I want to know who's a trusted Source I want to know who my trusted source is of when they say about stuff what's real right so if game science says one thing and then all of a sudden this gets disproven and then it gets closer and closer that gets like Xbox is saying no it's not about limitations we can't talk about other deals meaning Xbox knows it's a deal but they can't speak on it because it's not their business to speak on you got to look at read between the lines they would have to disclose any exclusivity deals right it's not an it's not a traditional exclusive deal if they gave them money sort of like um well Hogwarts a little different but the Hogwarts Legacy stuff that they had where they had that exclusive they had the marketing and and they also have the exclusivity right there's no marketing here you don't have to get the marketing but you can persuade people to make your game first before you get to the other one there's nothing there's no law against that right PlayStation has done it in the past hence why they said that during the FTC where they said we would get a we would get a leaser game or a delayed game they've said this in the FTC why would they say that because they done that to other people dark Taco says who do you believe Mike I need an opinion Kyle says I've never known Paul to do credible uh to be credible so you do the math there's a lot of people on overlap here because of the situation that happened with with Lono okay and I totally get that I totally get that okay so a lot of people don't like him because of that reason totally get it if it's a Sony exclusive why did it launch on PC because PC is not a competition for console sales quintar if a if a company's coming in they want and it's going up as a competitor they're going to stop their competitor from getting it so they can get the exclusive again I'll go back to my gas station story about the guy that owns a 7-Eleven and a WWA was going to build across the street and then he made it go away by throwing money at it did they advertise and say oh well the Wawa is not being built because uh 7-Eleven gave us $5 million no no they didn't do you know why because it's none of our [ __ ] business says of course Microsoft would give an answer they're they're going to say that the product is weak and they say that I I can comment in deals made by our partners but can just be them saying PlayStation made a deal with game s uh science to help optimize the PlayStation 5 because again no way Microsoft says PlayStation is helping them optimize because it would give that off the notion that Microsoft isn't helping sure but at the same time they don't have the right to talk about what other people's dis look they're all in the industry if you're in the industry I don't care what industry you're in I don't care if you're a truck driver if you're a computer animator if you're a game designer you know what's going on in other Studios because you have friends in the industry and word gets around okay I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows what Sony's doing and what Sony and what Microsoft is doing and so on and okay so to say that they wouldn't comment they can't comment because it's not their business to comment on they're all lying at some capacity perhaps 30 what was that news anchor who came out and was making stories up to completely uh was it uh Matt low I'm not sure I I didn't didn't uh what's his name don don don Dom what was his name I don't watch [ __ ] news uh a black guy lemon lenon what's his name didn't he make up [ __ ] I don't know if it was Matt Law I don't remember ree says I can't stand tassy but he's not dumb enough to lie Microsoft didn't deny previous games delayed due to optimization issues why pick this one to lie about good point reys good point El says uh but wuhong is the [ __ ] I'm on chapter 4 and after 20 plus hours I finally hit a repeat mob uh in a different area Sony exclusives don't hit PC but wuhong did no no no no no exclusives are different you're you're talking about third party uh Hogwarts hit PC but they paid money towards Hogwarts to get a mission into Hogwarts early uh they can have exclusive deals again it's against consoles not against the PC dark Taco says remove your bias agreed Mike and this is as easily plausible we know Sony extends time exclusives in Final Fantasy without telling the public it's exactly right Taco it's exactly right Robert Jones says why would Paul reveal his Source it's extremely stupid right his whole his whole livelihood releases on all all people of of people that give them news without being revealed right this is my source fire Source it's exactly right right Jason doesn't tell his sources no no reporter should tell their sources Robert Zone says no reason to take any side just wait that's exactly right and that's why I said but I'm I'm I'm leaning towards Paul because what does Paul get out of it why would he throw away right why would he throw away what he's doing for a stupid one piece article you know what I mean why would he put that out there right if anything he he waited out and said you know if I break this and this is true then it would it would give me more credibility would it not it's not about waiting uh wanting it to be true sourcewise I've had tassy pull uh pull too many sources out of his ass he's not a journalist he's simply more likely a trusted a known source via a random Source I I can tell you this he's more of a journalist than all of us right I mean he does a lot of stuff he is a writer okay and I do know that he's trying to become more like better in his industry so why would he try to wreck his why would he try to wreck him himself by doing this instead of raising himself up you understand what I'm saying corporations don't care they'll they'll just lie because it doesn't matter Eric says if it was or is exclusive though wouldn't they have to declare that in trouble with the FTC no they wouldn't have to declare anything they could we look there's there's plenty of stuff that people can do um someone can go hey uh we'll give you a couple money to help you with optimization or whatever and they're like and in exchange for optimization you know you know because they're optimizing it for their system first and I'm assuming they're a small Studio I know they grew up to like 200 but while they were making the game okay they probably because they had to look at it and say look if I start a business and I get it into stores let's say I make a product product uh I'm selling my lovely glass of water here and I want to get it into stores okay but I'm only myself okay I can't produce more than what I can't make so do I go into Walmart okay first or do I go to Walmart and Target and overdo it right you're like well you can't do it because I I'm only one person I'm only a certain amount of team that can output certain stuff so when they're working on the game they go what's the best Market to be in well PlayStation right now PlayStation 5 has 60 million units out there Xbox has less than that by half if not a third okay obviously they're making it for PC because PC's 1.5 billion poti poal buyers that could buy a game out there right and two for consoles PlayStation's the higher console so as a studio you would work on the stuff that works better and if Sony paid them money to optimize theirs and Xbox didn't put their money out there to optimize theirs faster then it would technically be an exclusivity deal because they worked on their game first they're working on Xbox okay but then game science because they're new in the industry they don't want to admit that they took money because they're still they're working hard they're just optimizing the game they don't think they've done anything wrong and they haven't done anything wrong there's no there's nothing wrong with what they've done if they took money but it does look bad on Sony because then it looks like Sony paid them to make the game on their system first that's just my speculation proy says it was Cuomo Como okay for the for the Don did not make up stories there you go so it's Como Good Morning America guy was smashing his uh his uh his co-workers and they're still together well there you go are timed exclusives considered exclusives when it comes to the Xbox no no in the in the in the context that we're talking about exclusive that just Boulders Gate 3 was an excl timed exclusive but unintentional timed exclusive right this is unintentional timed exclusive because they're worked on the game that was on more potential sales for them which it worked out than the other system like I said it'll come out if they took money who doesn't even like Xbox Mo who doesn't even like Xbox you talking about Paul tassi he plays a [ __ ] ton on Xbox I don't know if he still does but he used to Jason say on a happier note the Borderlands Handsome Jack collection got delivered nice exactly Mo plus Sony knows Microsoft will soon profit from their Gamers this is Sony's the last effort to control the market and slow Microsoft down right and that that goes into a completely different conversation right are they are they manipulating to stop things from happening with their with their because they they need to catch up right I know people think that Sony's like winning the game right but in the industry they're behind hence why they're starting to put their games on third party hence why they're starting to move stuff over to PlayStation Plus hence why they're trying to you you see what I'm saying they're in competition they're trying to evolve and they can't let Xbox get too far ahead for now we just uh Z says uh for now we have to just worry about the exclusive games that are never coming to other platforms for a year or two time exclusives that shouldn't even be termed we use right this is not a timed exclusive this is unironic time exclusive no one no one made it a Time exclusive tassi plays on Xbox well I know cuz we used to play together again that's years ago maybe he doesn't play any more Xbox I could look it up on I could look it up and see tassy Pony up yeah I'm waiting I'm waiting for the co-op working confirmation for Space Marines 2 if that's you're talking about water you know your game is good when they give it an eight oh did they did they come out with the reviews is there reviews we can watch a review here you go everyone welcome back I like Forge gaming so we'll watch Forge gaming is this okay me raise this up all right Forge gaming says now I've played 50 hours of Warhammer 40K Space Marine 2 here's his review so I have played coming up now on 50 hours of Space Marine 2 here's my review of the game I want to start by saying to there's going to be no story spoilers I'll also avoid discussing most of the like cooler campaign moments so it's not to spoil those but beyond that I will be talking in detail about the game I want to begin by setting the tone here for the rest of the video because so much about this game I just adore they absolutely nailed the game play and the Space Marine fantasy like the core Loop of playing this game waiting into massive hordes enemies tearing your way through it's very satisfying it's also very very bombastic like there's so much Crazy over-the-top Action constantly happening you'll be waiting into these hordes of tyranid chopping and smashing your way through with bullets flying everywhere explosions going off in the background off in the distance there's going to be streams of like literally thousands of enemies tripping over each other the Sky Full Of Swarm clouds of flying tyranid with the Tracer rounds from anti-air fire relentlessly following their every move and all of this is happening while you're in the thick of battle cleaving away performing some bad ass execute tearing the limbs off a space bug and then cratering its head and you got your mates there right around you like reigning their own Terror one of them chugging away mowing down enemies with his lmg while the other one is leaping through the air with a jetpack and massive Hammer slamming down into a huge pile swinging away it's just like non-stop action and it is like this near constantly that looked I want to back up for a second that looked cool when he he was flying like that Terror one of them chugging away mowing down enemies with his lmg while the other one is leaping through the air with a jetpack and massive Hammer slamming down into a huge pile swinging away it's just like non-stop action and it is like this near constantly in so many different variations of the scenario I just laid out this game is badass and it is a lot of fun to play I like the combat in fact so much that I could just play through the same missions over and over and over again and as it turns out due to the game's I was going to say I think you have to relatively low amount of content that's exactly what we did we spent most of our time playing through the same handful of missions over and over and over again and that leads me to what I think might be one of this game's biggest issues at release and that is the amount and the variety of content available I'm pretty sure for some people this is going to fall way short of their expectations while I have had a lot of uh oh uhoh how much how much content is in is in this fun and I've enjoyed my time with the game so far the fact that we wrapped up the campaign in just under 6 hours as opposed to the developers projected 12 yeah there's going to be some people who just don't love 6 hours I might I might have to wait that without question and for as much as I've enjoyed grinding the co-op operations leveling up my bull workk and pushing to the highest difficulty fact is that each run of these that would be the reason there's season pass like uh like why why they're having seasons and adding stuff it's takes about 30 or so minutes and there's only six operation levels in total so for anyone who's only interested in playing through them one or two times that's adding like 3 to five hours more of content and then between that Z says I don't even sleep six hours oh my and the campaign we are likely falling short of 10 hours total play time here for some players now the game does also have no not six hours Rush sge PVP and I'm really looking forward to it however I wasn't able to test that for this review window because the matchmaking servers hadn't yet been turned on they're still not turned on as of this recording now I'm expecting I'm likely to get more hours worth of fun out of this for sure oh sure you're going to get you're going to get more time out of it because of the PVP and replaying to upgrade your characters and whatnot each of your characters but you're going to be doing the same six missions time and time and time and time and time again for your healer and then your time and time and time again for your brawler and sure but I also know for as much as I'm interested in PvP there are some people who just don't care at all and these things combined with a handful of other points of feedback which we will get to later in the video this all has me thinking that this could be a device of launch I really like the game I've had a blast so far and I would recommend it but I also think people will be disappointed with the content amount and variety because I don't expect everyone to grind the same six Co-op missions for 40 plus hours like we have woo six missions for 40 hours I mean it almost feels like Destiny year one doesn't it takes a certain kind of a a personality to enjoy that kind of gaml so this May unfortunately be once again a situation where we have what is otherwise a great game here that is launching a little too light on its content remember this got delayed this got delayed almost a full entire year and it will be a much easier recommendation say a year from now once they've added Four Seasons worth of updates which they already have planned with a requisite road map at that point without question easy recommendation for just about everybody but as it is right now I think you're going to have to keep all the caveats in mind with that preface let's get into so in a year's time in one year's time the game will be complete I I hate I hate modern gaming I hate modern gaming the review and starting with the overview if you happen to miss the preview video we did last month I'm going to do a quick overview of the game from the top to the bottom talking about the game playay the game modes the systems and features and then after that we will move move into my Impressions what I like what I don't like points of feedback and the final thoughts I know mo I know what you're going to say before you even put it MOS hey guess what Mike guess what it's gonna be on game pass by that time I know I know I know all right starting with the game playay here as covered already this is Far and Away the shiny star of Space Marine 2 the combat is just phenomenal the main point of comparison for me would be something like shadow of War it's got this action combat system where you will be in the thick of battle totally surrounded by enemies but you have well here Z I look I like what you're saying okay I like what you're saying yeah it seems a little short but I would rather have an awesome game play Loop and great mechanics in a short game in my opinion I would love that if I paid 40 bucks but I'm I'm not paying 70 I'm not paying 70 for six missions to play over and over and over and over and over again and I know there's PVP added to it but I'm not I'm not this is why I don't buy Cod right I don't buy Cod because the campaigns were short and I don't really want to play the PVP over and over right and and that's it I I just to me it's not worth it have every tool needed to manage them easily be dealing damage with light and heavy attacks plus you have to wait for the for the Four Seasons to come out by the time the Four Seasons come out let's say they they add three missions each that's an additional uh you know six for the first two and six so you have 18 total missions by the end of the year maybe I don't I don't know cleaving groups and striking single targets there's a lot of combo chains from spamming the same basic attack multiple times to alternating inputs with holds and pauses in between your strikes every single weapon in the game will have its own attack variations with different Combos and combo chains that you can perform and then there are even different weapon variations of the weapon classes and each of these will either excel at cleave or single Target damage but most weapons will have options to do both to at least some degree there are also attacks that can be used to break a guard or interrupt enemies who are calling for reinforcements which is huge as for the defense side of things well there are two main options you've got Dodge and parry and then some classes and weapons I mean it looks great also have a block you can dodge pretty much any attack but only basic attacks or those that are marked with blue indicators can be parried perfectly timing a Dodge or a Parry right before you are struck will then slow down time momentarily and also enables a counter shot which will not only do some damage but also restores some of your health then the other big thing that you want to make use of is the finishers when an enemy is blinking red this indicates they are low health and can be executed doing so will also restore some armor and it makes you completely invulnerable able to damage during the entire execute animation then on top of that there are multiple grenades for you to throw out into the mix blowing up piles of enemies and every single class in the game of which there are six has its own unique ability which is sort of like an ultimate these will charge in combat and give you another tool to either take out enemies or to support your team so for example the class that I played the most the bullwark has this Banner that you can slam into the ground it will damage enemies in its vicinity while also quickly restoring armor for myself and on my allies and I eventually got a perk that made it that so that it would revive any down teammates who were around it as well really really powerful utility skill and with all of this stuff combined the game play just has such a nice pacing and satisfying flow to it you're smashing through the hordes mixing up your melee ranged and defensive moves you'll use these big sweeping Cleaves to deal with the hordes while heavy hitting strikes are for the larger foes at the same time you're paying attention for any reactive maneuvers you need to make like dodging range shots from the snipers in some incoming attacks and then counter shotting to restore some armor in the process then you're executing the low Health enemies you're getting these sick animations while being invulnerable and then straight back to it hacking away tossing out grenades dodging slashing some more dodging counter shotting heavy attacking does look badass though I have to I have to admit that it's it looks amazing to break some guard carrying counter shotting again perform and execute some more slashes counter that reinforcement calling in things get a little hairy toss out some more grenades I'll slam down my banner to top off my armor and then get back to slashing it is great if you hadn't got the memo combat in this game is great A Space Marine 2's campaign this has you playing as Titus The ultramarine Who after being wrongfully accused of corruption has been reinstated and accompanied Now by two battle brothers who are controlled either by AI or other players if you're playing in multiplayer Co-op you all sent out on a mission to once again defend Humanity now in the campaign you're going to be visiting multiple planets across several missions each of these areas have a distinct look biome structures and set pieces you move through while you are battling a wide range of tyranid and Chaos Marine enemies as mentioned not going to spoil any of the narrative stuff here but I would like to make note of some of the cooler things we saw and did uh for one there's just so many great worldbuilding moments throughout the whole campaign sections where we have time I was just thinking the same thing dolphin literally as I I I I just looked I was like why do he got a hood on and I looked at the chat and you said the exact same thing take in the environment and they've just done such a good job of executing not only on the oppressive feeling but also the massive scale of everything in the 40K Universe whether it's the Towering structures that pierce the clouds the seemingly NeverEnding waves of enemies pouring through the streets and filling up the skies your allies and their artillery Z there to meet them in impressive explosive fashion or the massive over-the-top boss battles and encounters many many very very very cool moments we came across in the campaign there's also in this a fair good amount of variety of enemy types from the basic tyranid hordes the run up and swarm you the dual wielding Knights the range snipers the stealth assassins ones that toss out landmine bombers that chase you and explode floaters that support and buff their allies and then you got the chaos Marines or as I like to call them the ones that explode into Cosmic confetti these had a lot of variations as well from the basic ranged and Swordsmen to the ones with lmgs rocket launchers flamethrowers and missile barges you'll come up against several boss battles throughout the campaign and I got to say every one of these I thought was quite well done not only were these cool looking bosses with interesting encounter and mechanic design but everyone felt unique we really enjoyed them and then beyond the main boss fights there were also a few count them three to be exact mini bosses that you encounter at various intervals in the campaign these are also found in the co-op operations as well which we will be covering shortly uh probably some of the most fun we had during the whole campaign though were all the sections where we had access to our jump packs these were limited to very particular sequences and you would lose them once you finish that area but each time we got to do it it was so fun mainly because they're just overpowered as heck you'll launch up into the air just floating there and then Smash down wherever you please and absolutely cratering anything in your path it is also just extra funny and hilarious when all three of you are landing almost in sequence one after another just slam slam slam everything's exploding overall I really enjoy the campaign all told though as mentioned it took us under 6 hours actually 5 hours and 46 minutes all right so 5 hours and 46 minutes he did it with two other people so with Co-op um and they're they're probably just playing at a normal Pace uh if you play by yourself maybe you get seven maybe you get eight by yourself CU of little harder areas or whatnot to be exact and I'll add here we weren't burning through the content either we were playing at a totally regular Pace we cleared every single enemy that spawned we didn't Blitz by anything we explored all the side areas looking for Collectibles we watched every cut scene and listened to all of the narrative exposition of which there was a fair bit we really did not beine the campaign we played it what I would consider fairly normally I was frankly surprised with how short the campaign was especially given the developers 10 to 12h hour completion time estimates that we you pay physical cash with everything Travis how do you become a member where you putting the money where you putting the cash into had heard not sure how exactly could squeeze another 6 hours out of this experience get a PE parade card is that what you get the campaign was short but I did find it quite fun now the real bulk of the content in this game it seems comes in the co-op operations operations are these handcrafted missions where you play as one of six distinct classes with up to two other real people moving through levels that act as the side stories to the main campaign so while you play through the campaign there are moments and levels and missions in there where there is another Space Marine team going on your SC Mission but with I do not like that yellow but you know each their own with objectives in a separate nearby area the operations are you playing as that team it's actually a pretty cool setup so structurally operations remind me a ton of Warhammer 40K dark tide they have you moving through pretty much linear levels fighting groups of enemies that will get mixed up from run to run with objectives to clear along the path and occasionally side bosses that need to be dealt with now there are six operation missions in total like The Campaign these take place on the few planets and in the same general areas but they are entirely unique layouts and Designs you're not actually moving through the same exact levels and sections that you played in the campaign but you're in the rough vicinity on the planets and you will often see like overlapping points of interest or events off in the background in fact the entire point is that these two teams are working in tandem to complete the same objective helping each other by doing different things in the same area so yeah you're moving through these levels you're taking on hordes of either the tyranids or the chaos Marines completing OB objectives at various intervals managing your resources the health and ammo while trying to stay alive I would consider every single level of these Co-op operations extremely linear beyond the occasional branching path that meets up like a few seconds later however all along the edges of these mostly linear levels there are a few corners and alcoves branching off where you will find valuable pickups that you want to be on the lookout for these include health kits ammo crates different grenade types armor boost for getting extra Pips of armor and the guardian relics will which will let the holder self-revive upon death now sometimes you're just going to see these laying around on the edges but other times they're actually going to be inside of stacks of crates that you can smash also every level will have a hidden Armory data and data seed so the Armory data is used is it random or every time you go to that level it's it's in the same spot cuz that would seem kind of weird used as a resource to permanently upgrade your weapons making them stronger where the data seeds reward if you're interested in this I'll get it if not it without dying and both of those things really incentivize exploring if Co-op works by the way Co-op has to work it seems like it works but if it doesn't work at launch right if you want to get it I'll get it if not I I can wait every single corner of the map while on an operation because they're pretty important there's also mini bosses so there're the four difficulty tiers that I mentioned it looks like from what we could tell the mini bosses only start appearing as you go to the second difficulty all the way up to the fourth and they appear to show up randomly although there are parts of the map where they are probable to show up from what we saw so the three bosses that are that we've seen in our 40 plus hours of Play Time include this nuroo a Giant floating squid thing pulsates huge AOE Rings got a few range blasts where it shoots big lobs or does this sweeping beam can also Place damaging pools on the ground that you have to avoid the car effects has big melee Cleaves it shoots acid and slams the ground it also has like a bull rush charge and then there's the hell brute which charges has a ton of different heavy melee Cleaves slams and range attacks and from what I could tell seems to have a whole heck of a lot of Health as well and that's basically the gist of operations go through these levels complete these objectives fight these enemies pick up the pickup yeah mo didn't they say it originally that it was on Game Pass cuz I remember we watched it last year and they said it was on Game Pass and then the Game Pass thing went aways fight them many bosses when they show up do all of that without using your revives and make it to the end mission complete so yeah operations are where we have spent the vast majority the bulk of our plates time and I would assume besides the PVP this will be true for other people as well this is where most of the content is in Space Marine 2 in terms of quantity of time you've got the six different operations the four difficulty tiers you start off at tier one you play through all six these take 30 to 40 minutes each on average and then as you level up you get experience you Ravis that's the stupidest thing you've said today just today though you shouldn't you want a game buy it like an adult for [ __ ] sake grass you're stronger this lets you push up the difficult a man spoken without kids difficulty taking on the harder Challenge and progressing even further which then brings us to the various classes and the progression systems so as mentioned there are six classes in the game when you join an operation you will pick one of the six to play as you've got the Tactical who has a scan ability that reveals enemies and makes them take more damage you've got the assault class who has a jump pack which grants adults buy kids rent well adults have kids children do not increase Mobility for powerful slams you've got the Vanguard with a grael launcher he can hook and Propel towards enemies the bull workk is like the tank he's got a chapter Banner that you place on the ground it restores armor at all Squad members in the area and then it can get upgrades that do things like damage enemies increase a missing health and then also revive down enemies and his big thing is that he carries this massive Shield the sniper besides sniping has a camo cloak to conceal yourself and sneak around and then you've got the heavy class who has this iron Halo ability creating a powerful barrier blocking all range damage in front of them and they just deal a heck of a lot of range weapon damage which is nice because they have no melee weapon options so those are the six classes no repeats allowed so you can't have two bullworks for example and progressing through the game is all about picking the class and the weapon combinations you have access to that you like and then leveling those up to make them stronger and push into those higher tier difficulties now for the rest of progression and custo iation it comes in a few forms for one there's a perk tree so every class has its own perk tree this is what I like we talked about this a couple months ago when they when they were showing this off I want to know more about the the perk tree as you level up you unlock new perks with each level with 24 in total and then that tree is divided into four subsections there are the core skills all around defensive and offensive enhancements team skills as they imply are going to give Buffs to your whole team the gear skills will enhance your class's unique weapons or ability which is basically that ultimate and then you've got the signature skills these these are very powerful Buffs at the end of the tree which are just some really really really strong things I've got a couple that makes it so that if my armor depletes I'll drop a Gren that that character that he has there looks pretty cool grenade for free if I get a perfect Parry it will incapacitate even Elite enemies or I've got one that makes it so that if I have any remaining armor I cannot be interrupted or staggered which is very strong so as you level you will unlock the perks horizontally across the tree starting in that top row and then moving to the middle and bottom row eventually at max level 25 you have everything unlocked and then you can pick one from each of the vertical rows within each of the categories then there's also weapon progression you gain experience as you use your weapons on the mission this levels them up and you've got a few upgrades there are multiple versions of each weapon you start with the standard one and then that can be upgraded to Mastercraft artificer and eventually Relic each tier of these also have multiple options within them and then there's also a weapon perk tree with two paths for you to choose from some have overlapping areas you can so the gun or the uh the weapon and the gun itself becomes a standard a green a purple and then I got it fall back and forth but each one of those trees will have various additional enhancements improving your weapon and then of course there are Cosmetics you start with a few default colors as like a base outfit but then there's tons of unlocks rewarded via playing the game and you're able to customize everything from the emblem and colors on your Helm pauldrons breastplate War gear gauntlets and Greaves as well as VAR I adornments you can have on all of that weapons will also have cosmetic appearances these are tied to the look of any weapon upgrade that you've unlocked thus far and then finally the game has PVP this is 6 ver six competitive multiplayer with three available game modes there's Annihilation which is a team deathmatch uh each takedown earns your team a point first team to 50 wins se's ground is domination where you complete for control of a zone that moves around the map throughout the match you reach the point limit for your team you win and then control and capture is like that but it's King of the Hill Style with three zones in designated areas and all of this sounds great especially with how good the combat is in the game I'm really looking forward to playing it unfortunately we cannot play a single match of PVP during this review window that's because the matchmaking servers weren't available there was no way of testing this mode for making this review which is a huge bummer because this is probably the thing that I was looking forward to the most even interesting while they didn't do that more than the co-op operations I was really looking forward to PVP and it could offer a ton of addition play time I'm thinking it will but if there's major issues it could also suck no clue as of this recording we will find out in the coming days post this review going live and the game officially releasing I am of course hoping for the best okay so that is the overview of the game that's pretty much everything you need to know about it let's go now into my thoughts and Impressions the likes and dislikes and the feedback that I have so starting with the likes um I don't know if you got the memo but the game play it's really good uh combat 10 out of 10 as far as I'm yeah but even him saying that Travis says all the time that his friend bought him a game or his friend load him the game and it it it it's all all this is just [ __ ] in chat right now concerned the whole combination of mowing through smaller mobs clashing with bigger enemies coupled with the well time Dodges and perfect counters it just never gets boring I think countering in particular feels incredible like one of the our favorites is when a small enemy jumps at you you catch them by the head and headbutt them and then they explode into Smither and they're so many like this a lot of the finisher animations are really fantastic as well kind of just like this over-the-top deletion of these enemies yeah momentto moment combat is what makes this game great and there aren't many games that do it as well as this just absolutely fantastic speaking of which the jetpack gameplay portions of the campaign yeah I like that water I like how they they separated the PVP progression with the with the game progression 11 out of 10 super fun stuff like the three of us flying around and smashing down obliterating enemies in massive craters so very good also man the World building is on point I would say kind of similar to how dark tide did last year the tone of this is just so well done but I even think it's even better because it's on a much more massive scale with different planets and the huge swarms of enemies and all the stuff going on in the background and all around you between the visuals The Sounds the set pieces it's just amazing pretty much from start to finish it really delivers exactly the kind of feel I want when exploring something set in the 40K Universe love love the world building also as I mentioned just in general like I feel like they nailed this Space Marine fantasy you are this lumbering bringer of death stomping through levels yeting everything in your path into another dimension on top of the fact that all around you there's also so much of this bombastic over the top crazy stuff happening just playing this game it feels like the personification of death metal music basically uh speaking of which they've got just some super really cool badass moments in the campaign really good set pieces explosion Laden happenings all over the place with a touch of humor thanks to to the often ridiculous commentary from your Space Marine Trio uh there was actually one point in the campaign where the group of us split up with one person had to go down this path and we were on a bridge above them we had to fight through our own stuff but also support them while they were down there unfortunately there was only one of those moments in the whole sixish hour campaign and I would have loved more because it was a really cool Dynamic with us dealing with our own stuff but also helping our buddy who was all alone but we could still see and support finally in terms of the really good stuff performance was fantastic for me in fact I only recall like one or two moments where there was ever any hitching it was almost entirely smooth from the beginning to the end with all of the time that I played now I will C at that by saying yes I've got a fairly beefy rig I've got an RTX 490 an I94 900k and 64 gigs of RAM so I don't know what it's going to run like on mid-tier systems on Lower tier systems on consoles I really am not sure but for me the performance was good uh Liam apparently crashed a few times we did want to make note of that as well he had a couple of crashes okay now on to the dislikes while overall I really like the game I think that's come through I've had a blast playing there are a fair few points of feedback uh critique with some feedback following up okay more game please I just want more game to play the campaign is so short in under 6 hours the fact that most of the replayability comes from the co-op operation missions is fine I've enjoyed it and the PVP I'm assuming I'm going to enjoy as well there just should be more only six Co-op missions is well I would assume they took it I have we're going to look at the season pass stuff afterwards but I'm assuming they removed it to put it into season pass to keep people they're adding additional like a mode late into 2025 that should have been here at launch I would have loved it at launch like yeah let me let me let me hear what he said Co-op missions is very light and the fact that they're adding additional modes like a hord mode late into 2025 wait The Horde Mode's not coming till late 2025 that should have been here at launch I would have loved it at launch like the game play is amazing I'd love to be doing more of it in a larger variety of situations I think a year from now like when say the game has 12 missions instead of six and more modes which they do have planned it's going to feel a lot better but right now yes it feels quite content like despite the fact that I played for over 40 hours I've done that because I'm a crazy person you understand multiplayer class progression this seems unnecessarily slow at the moment while this is sort of similar to the prior complaint it's a separate issue than the lack of content variety because longer leveling grinding doesn't equal variety it took us roughly 30 hours to cap out a single class so that means reaching the max level 30 hours for a single class six classes 180 hours level 25 and getting to that final tier of weapon unlocks The Relic yellow weapons and unlocking all of them in the tier that took us about 30 hours each I think it just would have been more enjoyable if they cut that time say maybe cut it in half so that within a 30-hour window you could level up two classes instead of just one after over 30 hours running the same six Co-op missions over and over and over and over again I don't really feel like leveling another class you know what I mean if there was more variety of missions maybe I would feel differently about that but 30 hours to get one class to max level it just feels a little too long it would have been great to have two classes or even one and a half classes leveled up after 30 hours of grinding that also for as good as the combat feels it has one glaring issue and that is that the parrying feels a little inconsistent so on the smaller enemies basically whenever they have a Parry attack coming in you'll see the blue counter icon appear and if you hit Parry right away it will successfully counter and smash them and you get the benefits of that however for the larger enemies hitting Perry right when that same icon appears actually won't counter you actually have to wait until the enemy is physically striking so you got to be looking at them and this is an inconsistency across enemy types using the same blue counter icon it's just kind of confusing especially when the enemies are all grouped up and so you're not sure which of the enemies that blue counterable attack icon is popping up for and so your timing could be completely off depending on if it's a small one or a big one using the Parry just felt so unreliable and inconsistent that we basically just ended up spamming Dodge roll instead because you get the same perfect counter if you perfectly time a Dodge but even if the timing isn't perfect at least you still Dodge the damage rather than standing there with a failed parry and then getting hit because you're stuck in that Parry animation I also have a few campaign specific points of feedback there were several occasions in the campaign where we had these really cool moments that were entirely cinematic and just would have been so so preferable to be playing them so one great example is there was this point where we were marching into what is basically like death march coming up with our tanks we had other Space Marines around us there was massive hordes of enemies pouring in from all over the place and this greater demon thing standing in the middle the action of going on this March into this this horde of enemies with the huge one in the background they just showed it in the Cinematic like PE Pew shooting it's like we would have just rather been playing that it would have been so much cooler playing it and there were other moments like that throughout the campaign where they decided to make a cinematic for a moment that I would have much preferred to play I think especially considering the campaign only lasted a 6 hours I would have liked more play time and less cinematics for those instances for that very reason in general too I felt like there was quite a lot of stop in the action lot of fading to Black and heavy use of corridor walking and while I understand this is probably used as basically hidden loading screens it happened frequent enough that I felt like the pacing of the action in the campaign felt really slow at times far worse than the co-op operations which are pretty much like non stop hecticness from the beginning to the end there was also this strange thing where the weapons would swap between missions and at sections of the missions so what I'm talking about is like we'd be playing through the campaign and we you pick up weapons along the way and you get a weapon you want say I got like a bolt rifle with a grenade launcher awesome having a lot of fun and then all of a sudden it would hit a cut scene but the cut scene would be like you talking to your friends and then that would end and you would still be in the same area but all of a sudden you would have different weapons like they just randomly removed your weapons and put new ones in your hands even when it didn't make sense it's not that time had passed and there was a situation where it made sense that we swapped weapons this happened frequently enough that it was really really strange and really off-putting and I do have one final point of feedback an fov slider for the love of God please especially playing on PC sitting so relatively close to the monitor compared to if I was like on my couch playing on Console looking at a screen multiple feet away it's just the fov is so small it's a killer at times the fact that my guy takes up almost a fourth of the screen it's just a bit much I would please love an fov slider okay so all that said final thoughts as I've made clear I think I really really like the game I just wish there was more of it here and more variety here more Co-op missions different Co-op missions harder difficulties maybe a longer campaign playing through the game moment to moment is so satisfying but with such a brief campaign I it sounds like it sounds like it's an incomplete game right even with all the good parts he said with a short campaign with no difficulty missing stuff uh a lot of the I mean look six characters fantastic leveling system fantastic if if it takes 30 hours for one character six characters it's 180 hours that means I have to play each single Mission or each Co-op Mission basically if I don't want to get sick of it 30 times each okay to to to level up and I don't know if I want to do that right now if you put in 12 missions or 18 missions you know that sounds much better to me I think the game's legs are clearly held up exclusively behind the co-op operations and the PVP and even with that said the amount of extra play time I'm going to get out of PVP has yet to be determined because as of this recording we've not been able to test it and that amount is going to be zero if you are a player who doesn't care about PVP right which for me I I give two shits about the PVP section of this game right it's it's Co-op 100% And The Grind in the co-op and the campaign stuff and that feels like it's an incomplete part of the game now they do have a road map with some great sound and stuff lined up before the end of this year they're going to release season 1 which includes a oh good he's bringing it up on the thing so Season One ultrawide support private PVE lobbies battle barge sparring now this would be cool right if I could do private PVE lobbies or we could do private servers and stuff like that that'd be cool season pass so that's free update the season pass which you pay for that's cosmetic stuff season two you got new PVE mission mission or missions it says missions new PVE missions not sure how much they're adding the difficulty they're adding the difficulty lethal difficulty and they're adding another pistol okay season 3 new PVE Mission new PVP game mode new PvP Arenas new enemy PVE Prestige rank and battle barge expansions and then season 4 which is this time next year horde mode new enemy and new weapons that right there tells me that I don't need to get this game because this is not a complete game this is a game that they've taken and meal pieced together to add to it over the next 8 to 12 months and sparring Arena which sounds like dueling as well as private PVE lobbies and then in season 2 also before the end of 2024 they're going to be adding new PVE missions a fifth difficulty a new enemy and new pistol and then in 2025 with season 3 there're gonna $70 for all of this cool $70 for now and wait a year for this no sir be another new PVE Mission a PVP game mode PvP Arenas new enemies Prestige ranks and battle barge expansions and then comes season 4 they're adding new enemies and weapons and also a horde mode and all of this sounds awesome it just would have been awesome ER if the game had launched with much if not all of it in place already I think even excluding everything else even if they had just had the hoorde mode available for release that would have been a huge W and gone a long way for increasing the replayability and the variety of the gameplay experience considering again that the campaign only took us uh just under 6 hours and that we would have seen every operation mission in under another 3 hours because there's six of them and they only last about 30 minutes each if you are a play who's not interested Dustin it doesn't matter if it's 70 or 60 you're not getting the complete Game you're not getting the complete Game you pay $60 today and you have to wait a year before all the content comes in the game why would I pay $60 today and wait when I can just wait and then pay less later did in grinding those same six operations for another 40 plus hours like we have that's like a sub a 10h hour experience worth of cont content and if you're also not interested in PvP that's a big yikes you know what I mean now clearly I love the gameplay so much look I think it looks fantastic it looks fantastic wanted to keep on playing grinding leveling up my bull workk and pushing into the higher difficulties and if that sounds something like something that you're also going to like then awesome Space Marine 2 easy recommendation from me however if you're just planning on doing the campaign and then running each of those Co-op missions one or two times and you're not interested in PvP you might only be looking at like 10 to 15 hours worth of content in which case that $60 price tag that might be a tad too steep as it is it is it stands it's just the fact is your mileage can vary wildly based on all of the above factors I think the game right now is quite fun I like it a lot I just also think it's clearly going to be way better one year from now assuming thank you that's exactly what it there's no doubt about it one year from now it'll be a much much better game it'll be a complete game look I I've talked about this so many times okay it's not about hating on the game it's hating on the business models of these games that come out I've talked about it endless times game takes three to five game three to five years to make they release it at three or four and then it finishes at 5 they're releasing them early and then waiting for you to to see they don't want to put the investment in to see if it works they want to put you in there and keep you to come back and see if they can charge you microtransactions and whatnot for Cosmetics or what whatever else and look if I want to invest $60 or $70 I'll put that in the market where I can actually make money off of that I mean they hit their target and release everything listed on their road map while I've enjoyed my time playing the game I would not be surprised at the same time if there's a decent number of people who are disappointed with it the developer is just really relying heavily on players grinding the co-op operation classes and weapons to max level and then playing the PVP for a bit of time to make this feel like it's worth that price tag if this all sounds great to you like it is for me awesome I think this game's totally worth it if not though I see it you might want to hold off until next year that's going to do it for our review of this what he just said if you like it then it's totally worth it but if it's not then you might have to wait for next year Space Marine 2 and that's the business model that's how the sales will either be extremely well because if is there more people that will buy it today or is there more people that'll be like I'll just wait for for it thank you as always so much for watching hope you enjoyed I'll see you all next time hey everyone welcome yeah that's a shame it's a shame because up to this point up to this point I was all about that the the co-op if it works I'll be interested I just said earlier in the Stream sge if you want to get it I'll get it but now I don't I don't think I want to get it at all it look it looks phenomenal it does but value and time are two major things for me and if I'm playing a game for 60 bucks $70 then 6 hours of campaign is just too short just too short I'll just play Age of Mythology and Tower born for only 25 bucks it's just not worth it he even said it he said it himself playing the game who loves it he says I would wait a year right cuz I'm not going to play a lot of PVP I'm going to play the Co-op I'm going to play the co-op and I'll grind that with six missions and then to level up to level 25 you got to do that six times is it 30 level 30 or or 25 I forget what he said like I I hope you guys have fun with it I hope it's a good game I hope it's not broke but that's not a complete game not a complete Game quintar says I just refunded it Space Marine might look good you know what doesn't Minecraft movie trailer I was just bringing it up I was just bringing it up I'm I'm putting this at the tail end of the show because if they hit me if they hit me with you know demonetization which will happen uh I'm just going to cut it off at the end of the at the end of the show so let's watch this uh this new trailer for for MInecraft here Space Marines looks fantastic I hope you guys enjoy now let's watch this trash fire okay s says bro tell me why I need it right now in the state that it's in for $70 you don't Serge I'm not getting it I'm not getting it it's it's not worth the six-h hour campaign and doing the same six missions over and over for for $60 to $70 so all right here we go this is the Minecraft movie here we go St right this [Music] way what the hell anything you can dream about here you can make who are you I am Steve he didn't even change anything [ __ ] sake okay this guy is such a toolbag [Music] this is going to make a billion dollars it's going to make a billion dollars just because of Minecraft's name but holy Christ that is not it that is that is that is not it that is that is not it yeah these people are going to get sucked into a video game uh for whatever reason it's jumongi but with Minecraft we literally said this now we actually don't know if they get sucked in the video game but you know right oh I have to watch it Mo my son wouldn't have it any other way okay I literally said what they what they were going to do with this movie before they even soon as they announced it I said what are you going to do make it like jumongi oh yeah it's going to make a billion dollars a billion right exactly dolphin I have no choice in the matter I have to go see it amazing Jack Black changed nothing he he couldn't even shave for the part not going to lie that look better than Borderlands I'll tell you the trailer from Borderlands and the trailer for this this looks worse than Borderlands now it's not going to do worse than Borderlands lurker it it's going to make a billion dollars this will make a billion dollars just because of the Minecraft IP no doubt $800 to a billion dollars the trailer looked worse than borderland's trailer even if this is a worse movie than Borderlands it's still going to make 990 million more than Borderlands Kyle says I'll watch just because of Jason Mamoa his bangs Steve Steve doesn't have a beard Jesus they're like Jack we want to put you in a movie you're going to be Steve from Minecraft we love we loved you playing the Minecraft on YouTube when you had a YouTube channel we loved it we like to put you as Steve I'll do it you have to shave I'm not going to do it all right you don't have to shave great I'm in that's not Jason Mamoa that is 100% Jason Mamoa that is 100% Jason Mamoa you're telling me that's not him that that's not Jason Mamoa ksy that's not Aquaman that's not the dude from Game of Thrones that's Jessica mimoa what happened nice save that's nice save kbzy nice save KY was like oh [ __ ] that is Jason moo I got to say something quick I gotta say something fast it's Jessica Bravo sir Bravo that was a better saves in fortnite [Music] I give you two points and without giving anybody else points today you win you win today what I I don't know what's happening that that's exactly what it feels like armis that's exactly what it feels like it feels like Jack Black is Rober Williams character in jumongi exactly what it feels like know you know who can say it the best this right here this is my face after watching this We Know Jack blacks and jumongi I said it earlier in the very beginning of the stream I said that Jack Black's in jumongi and he's in this it's the same movie well sorry for that Downer Downer of a beat there that's that's depressing now if I worked on that movie I would tell my son I'd be like yeah I worked on that movie he'd be like on that movie dad I was like I'll be like yeah I worked on that movie but for everybody else I didn't work on that movie I didn't work on that movie I didn't work on that movie by the way but if I did if I did I would tell my son but I didn't and I wouldn't tell anybody it looks like they took your son's mod and put it into the movie crazy all right that's going to do it for today's show we'll be back tonight to uh shoot the [ __ ] with Sarge in uh Borderlands 2 this evening uh we'll see you guys at 8:00 p.m. tonight other than that we appreciate you very much hit that like button hit that subscribe button if you'd like to go above and beyond that become a member as little as $5 um there will be chapter 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