do do you ever think about like how would you handle somebody like Donald Trump I do think about that from time to time and I guess the first conclusion I come to is I'm glad I've never had to do one of those because I can say I think I've done three Federal and four provincial debates and the candidates the leaders on the debate stage in the debates that I've done have all how do I say this behaved I mean they've followed the rules yeah you know the moderator's job is to enforce the rules and so I'm going to take a bit of issue with you on the moderators of this debate at ABC they did not enforce the rules as it related to who gets to speak when uh to me that was the biggest complaint I had about them was that they did let Donald Trump say I want another word I want another word and they let him and when you looked at the math after the debate was over I think what did he have seven or eight more minutes of speaking time than her yeah now you could argue that might not be good for his cause but if part of the job of the moderator is to make sure that they get equal time which is part of the job they did not do well on that