Harris Calls For A Debate Re-match, Ohio Dad Tells Trump To Stop Using Dead Son For Political Gain

to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned This Is Us election watch I'm Gori dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 20 20 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance is right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than KLA Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over cumla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advisor because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh ma major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphas th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about Crow sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there're also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I'd do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her camp pain and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have har Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watchs the debate it blows it away so not all all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moment she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a High proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who Trump I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had her moments she managed to put Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is spewing racist vitrio even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um I you know just uh yesterday um U Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle it's only let's let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours a video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and change minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now um I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as uh a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got the derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um uh that you know KLA Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but uh Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get an debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think con Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made WS Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop star's post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women an artist like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she said out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for KLA Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report TV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the deed 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap in this edition of us election B thanks so much for watching this is us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those un likely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President uh Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all eyes now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course of Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fared better all right let's get into Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh Comm Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh ma major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on a board abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC i' do fox too I do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the r is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with v VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite week uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family I'll give you time to respond she talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who watched I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vit even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan an bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um I you know just uh yesterday um U economists came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastruct rure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle if only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alexan respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro com in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrisan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use feon talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policy she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex done respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most Anti anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get another debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think KL Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but it comes down to Fox or no debate I think where people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made WS Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Tor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference buau report ndv World absolutely uh and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be in involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching this is us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains you Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all lies now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or a good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal to deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advis to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the uh and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in tune by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about it ACC in to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I'd do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have har Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing harini Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit let me finish she talked about family tax cred uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um uh Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most trans affirmative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle let let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shapiro comment there that if if you think it happens at a network that Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now um I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss Krishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but uh Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get another debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think K Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed kamla Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made we Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site boats.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Dem Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women an artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the par of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely U and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Ted 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aidan Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching This Is Us election watch I'm G DED let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce Deb debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as per the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance is right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President uh Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concern this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fared better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specific specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that K Harris did extremely well dur dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but it but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your your one or two top advisers because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that is she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that what whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and they're also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC i' do fox too I do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with v VI Bureau report NV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite week uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that you're not numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moment she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family I I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax credit tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly we watch I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had her moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um IEM you know just uh yesterday um U economists came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy yes with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle if only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policiy she talked about her policies a lot more than the fear-mongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's too kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex it done respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some the network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha m colum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think con Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think where people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On all right on that note appreciate all of you for joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made WS Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site votom goov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all prais for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's dad has also asked and said that U he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blond but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of ha spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching [Music] This Is Us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two Pres presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course after graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost a 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas that he these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur dur during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh ma major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal to deal more more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she could emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what what he should have done during the first debate and simply Focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debates unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC i' do fox too I do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watched the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family I I'll give you time talked about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who Donal Trump I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know the President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um uh Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that the second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I'm I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as uh a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy and inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get it another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but uh Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get an a debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I think I think KL Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or the debate I think where people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made GS Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over over 337,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women an artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting her records straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their records straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place 4 years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that um he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is staring the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap in this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching This Is Us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate vot ERS believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance is right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed form Med against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against KLA Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election that yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she could emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there're also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Paris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in tune by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I'd do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with v VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watched the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing how Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time resp about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax credit uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly we watched I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got about 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitrio even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um IEM you know just uh yesterday um a economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle if only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shapiro come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy and inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got the railed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss Krishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um uh that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but okay I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the cand Ates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex done respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile Terror and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get an debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think k Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made we Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the PO St post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out in about I think more I think more cities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time tlor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely uh and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Ted 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti- migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that U he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards the hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different hes I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election B thanks so much for watching [Music] This Is Us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh uh uh majority and numbers seem to indicate the CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all eyes now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fared better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why didn't why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an ele on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over KLA Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it had has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh ma major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal to deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor Shiro if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking cont between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris camp c is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies report suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC i' do fox too i' do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite week uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town all setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talked talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is spewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um uh economists came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle if only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex ad respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hill Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro com in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as uh a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrisan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um uh that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policy she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair Fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex it done respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get a debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think could happen in any other network well I I I think I think KL Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made be Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 3 lak 37,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women an artists like twift who you know stand on business who do their research who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game Cher for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely uh and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power trans position to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is a the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's dad has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards the hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is staring the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching This Is Us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all lies now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seem to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seem to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against KLA Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economies concern the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite signif ific it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over KLA Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal to deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on the lals of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things that Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too i' do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report NV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watchs the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moment she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it's strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time to resp about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax cred uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was is not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um I you know just uh yesterday um Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment and clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle let's let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against the president President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shapiro come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now um I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy and inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls betweenin 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss Krishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrant are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but okay I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex it don't respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get an debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think K Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has mov we Taylor Swift global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's Rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference buau report NV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the deed 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that U he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society Mighty into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election board thanks so much for watching this is us election watch I'm g d let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh uh uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President uh Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all eyes now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good they say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh KLA Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if you if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the dis distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over comla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor Shapiro if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot in initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at the this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I do fox too I do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential C their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family I I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw ex we watched I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had her moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing RAC vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um IEM you know just uh yesterday um U economists came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy yes the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro comment there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now um I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the less lesson is he needs to come across as a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrisan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fearmongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get get another debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think con Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think where people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop super support has made WS Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site v.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praise for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's the Boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant policy itics the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's dad has also asked and said that U he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aidan Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hates spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for [Music] watching this is us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political Gaines US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh um uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President uh Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all lies now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy as well is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fared better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well dur during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal to deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor Shiro if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things that Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelon exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single pole I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debates unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I'd do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast let me start with you Alex the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates in Iraq I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time to resp talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who Trump I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had her moments she managed to to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know the president vice was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um I you know just uh yesterday um U Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handled only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to migration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro comment there that if if you think it happens at a network work that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cuts or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I'm I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as uh a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy and inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fear-mongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but uh Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get a debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think con Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for uh joining me me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political land landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made B Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 337,000 users to visit the site v.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swift could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that U he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards the hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old wife white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap in this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching [Music] This Is Us election watch I'm G DED let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a few years debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris his performance is right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that K Harris did extremely well dur dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the board problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that is she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd siiz and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there're also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in tune by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies and we're going to reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single pole I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC i' do fox too I do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with Vishal VI Bureau report NV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quoted backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look at the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers showed that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watch the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moment she came out strong prepar prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is uh um you know kamad Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about Reon family I I'll give you time to talk about family taxt credit and let me finish she talked about family texted uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exact watch I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um U economists came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle if only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid de we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shapiro come in there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy inflation and and the and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did did in the last debate Miss Krishan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know KLA Harris didn't talk about her policies she talked about her policies a lot more than the fear-mongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alexan respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get another debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think con Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but if it comes down to Fox or no debate I think her people will decide to uh as we say bring it on all right on that note appreciate all of you for joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made we Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla Harris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove over 3 lakh 37,000 users to visit the site vote.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game Cher for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed Security on the 6th of January remember this comes after uh the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick update coming in from Ohio where the father of the the Ted 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti- migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death to towards a hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different hes I wish that my son Aidan Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching This Is Us election watch I'm G dedi let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidate kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early polls seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh U uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and termed kamla Harris's performance as right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with uh a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all Li now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course after Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fared better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientists joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been uh almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why didn't why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh kamla Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are the two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if you see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over KLA Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the US election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and the and the big question is is that k Harris did extremely well dur dur you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh Maj major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal with deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she can emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasiz going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opportunity for Trump to do what what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about Crow sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're pois to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61 .7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in June by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want to rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know we'll think about it according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I do fox to but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the poll numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario mostly appears to favor Harris with v V Bureau report NV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head bring it let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this did happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watched the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moments she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to small business startup owners she talked about family give you to resp she talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly who Donald Trump I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asked asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had a moments she managed to put uh Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addressed the fact that it was Trump who told um many Congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um uh Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment in clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle only let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points related to immigration and economy but overall he came as off his performance was was very different from what it was in the debate against President Biden so why would he want another another rematch if it could go down the same uh path well let's be clear about one thing vice president Harris is not wrong Ronald Reagan she's not Abraham Lincoln she is not a solid debater we saw her especially at the beginning of the debate she was unsure she was overprepared she was a little shaky I think that President Trump could exploit those weaknesses don't forget vice president Harris has hours and hours of video to watch of President Trump debating everyone from Hillary Clinton to Marco Rubio the Trump team did not have as much to look at in regards to vice president Harris now because the two of them have met on the stage there is a rapport between the two of them they do know how the other performs in a debate situation I think that a second debate would be very informative I think the Trump team didn't learn the lesson of the debate with Joe Biden which is calm cool and steady wins the race and changes minds but I will point out that President Trump's best parts of the debate were the first 30 minutes and the end and those are the parts that most people watch most people tune in for a portion of it and then maybe tune out they tune back in at the end I think those parts were president Trump's strongest performance Professor Shiro comment there that if if you think it happens at a network that uh Donald Trump is is is uh open to like a fox do you think a second debate is pretty much on the cards or do you think it would be something that is is uh dicey as things stand right now I'm I I I think it I think it should I think it should be I think any reluctance on the on the part of trump and his team um is probably Mis misplaced I mean Trump I think has a pretty simple job and while his team may have learned lessons from the the the Biden debate and from the the last debate Trump himself has to has to has to learn the lesson and the lesson is he needs to come across as uh a very calm and and leader-like figure and to emphasize those issues of of the economy and inflation and and this and the southern Border in a way that he got derailed from in in the last debate KLA Harris has a big incentive to get another have another debate whatever Edge she gained from the from the last debate she needs to solidify it in a big way she needs to help mobilize her party for the for the for the Congressional elections and also keep in mind that we're relying on polls which in 2016 and 2020 underestimated uh Trump's performance and with that in mind that makes it even more important for for Harris to try to get as big a lead as possible going into election day and the only way for her to do that is to debate again and to try to do as well if not better than she did in the last debate Miss chrisan if it's if it's a Fox network debate would uh would kamla Harris agree to it I don't know um I will say that she is ready for a debate she's ready for a second debate but we also know that you know Fox News is uh one that has uh continuously validated uh the the lies that have been spewed by by uh you know the former president so I'm not sure you know but I will say um one point I do want to hammer is um on immigration we saw the former president um use fearmongering talk about oh they're coming for you uh the migrants are coming for you um and talk about concepts of a plan so to those who are saying that you know um that you know kamla Harris didn't talk about her policy she talked about her policies a lot more than the fear-mongering that Donald Trump did but I do think it's to kamla Harris's benefit to have a second debate uh but not sure where where that'll be okay so uh Ju Just it's my job to also put out the other side uh lot of trump campaign said that uh ABC moderators did not do a fair job and and they were completely slanted towards one of the candidates I'm responding to this in the in in in the context of Fox network but U Alex it done respond to the fact that what if it's not Fox what if it's some other network would would Donald Trump be prepared to do the to the debate then let me point this out CNN may be the most anti-trump Network that there is but president Trump's first debate with President Biden was on CNN you see that Donald Trump is more than prepared to go into what might be viewed as hostile territory and make his point I truly hope the vice president is willing to do the same I'll also say that Fox's anchors including Brett Bear and Martha McCollum are accomplished journalists who are known for their fairness and impartiality again it is vital that we get another debate all right I am afraid I have to leave it there but Professor Shapiro 30 seconds Sir do you see this going Fox NBC or do you think it could happen in any other network well I I I think I think K Harris would probably prefer NB NBC to Fox but it it comes down to fox or no debate I think where people will decide to uh as we say Bring It On All right on that note appreciate all of you for joining me on this edition of us election watch uh and now let's also take a look at this report that's been filed about well Taylor Swift uh one of the most popular women on earth she's uh endorsed KLA Harris take a look at this report that tells you the story in detail in a political landscape where every endorsement counts one pop Superstar support has made be Taylor Swift the global music icon has thrown her weight behind vice president kamla haris and the impact has been noteworthy the pop stars post endorsing Harris for the White House on Tuesday drove drove over 337,000 users to visit the site v.gov giving a glimpse of what her support could do for the Democratic presidential candidate celebrities were all praised for Taylor Swift's endorsement I really commend women and artists like T Swift who you know stand on business who do their research and who say something not just to say something you know I don't think she set out to set that standard or not I think she did what she felt she wanted to do and in setting a record straight those are her words given the AI that's been out out and about I think more I think more celebrities are going to you'll find them setting their record straight because of AI um so that that was more noteworthy than the political nature of what she had to say um but no listen I mean it's rock and it's politics It's Entertainment uh when people get a platform and they're they're passionate they're going to use it this is not the first time Taylor Swift has urged fans to vote just last year more than 35,000 people signed up to vote on her request as the election approaches the power of celebrity endorsements like Taylor Swifts could be a game changer for kamla Harris it's a boost that could make all the difference Bureau report NDTV World absolutely and on that note a quick update as far as some of the other stories coming in first up the US Congress is set to get increased fed security on the 6th of January remember this comes after the 6th of January Capital attack that took place four years back when the power transition was taking place in America and in the wake of that FBI will also be involved in monitoring any threats whatsoever well the epitome so-called epitome of democracy would want the power transition to be as smooth as possible which is why additional security is set to be deployed all right another quick up update coming in from Ohio where the father of the Dead 11-year-old boy has said that his son and his death is in fact being exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the father has asked Donald Trump and the Republican campaign to stop using his son for any political gains remember immigration is at the heart of us elections and at the heart of Donald Trump's campaign and uh Ohio's D has also asked and said that uh he has sought an apology for spinning his son's death towards hate and he has said that I wish my son was killed by a 60-year-old white man that's on your screens that tells you exactly how much immigration is tearing the American society into practically two different halves I wish that my son Aiden Clark was killed by a 60-year-old white man I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt but if that guy killed my 11-year-old son the incessant group of hate spewing people would leave us alone this needs to stop now they can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants the Border crisis and even untrue claims about fluff pets being ravaged and eaten by community members however they are not allowed nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from Springfield Ohio I think that was a very tragic incident uh and on that note it's a wrap on this edition of us election watch thanks so much for watching This Is Us election watch I'm G DED let's get you the headlines this Thursday evening first up kamla Harris aims to reach those unlikely voters with a debate rematch with Donald Trump even as Donald Trump hints that he would consider a rematch only if it is hosted by the Fox network US presidential candidates kamla Harris and Donald Trump head to the key swing States after a fierce debate kamla Harris seeks to build on the debate debate momentum in North Carolina Donald Trump to speak on the struggling economy in Arizona well the father of the Dead uh 11-year-old boy in Ohio claims that his son has been exploited in anti-migrant politics uh the Ohio fathers asks Donald Trump to not use his son for political gains US Congress to boost Federal Security for electoral vote count this comes after uh the January 6 US capital attack in 2020 security has been upgraded ahead of that all right the big story that we're tracking right now on us election watch well after the debate between the first presidential debate between kamla Harris and Donald Trump early poll seem to reveal that kamla Harris won the presidential debate uh with a significant uh um uh majority and numbers seem to indicate that CNN poll as for the CNN poll 63% of the the debate voters believe that kamla Harris won the debate the first debate between the two presidential candidates CNN also said and tered kamla Harris's performance is right up there and ranked it one of the best that they had seen as far as presidential debates go in fact on the other side Donald Trump supporters are also reconsidering a vote after the debate which uh saw the former president come out with a not so perfect response and it was a sharp contrast to how he performed against former against President Joe Biden who is now no more in the race uh well it all lies now on some of the key factors of the debate which was immigration and economy and on that let me tell our viewers that let's get that graphic point also on our screens that on those specific points whether it was immigration or the economy on both of those factors as per the polls it indicated that uh Donald Trump had a bit of an uh Edge specifically as far as those two particular areas are concerned this of course are Graphics relating to the larger debate per se but as I said those two factors pertaining to immigration and economy is where is where uh Donald Trump seemed to have fed better all right let's get in Robert Shapiro political analyst and scientist joining us live on the broadcast Professor Shapiro thank you much thanks much for taking out the time and speaking to me on NDTV my first question to you sir well the world has been able to digest the first presidential debate now it's been almost 48 hours or so um I want to ask you that specifically as far as immigration and economy is concerned despite despite not having a a good performance or a good day say whichever way you want to put it Donald Trump seemed to have done better than kamla Harris on those specific points yeah that that that that's very striking and his Trump's final comment about you know if if Harris had good ideas to deal with these problems why why didn't she deal with them effectively with Biden in the past four years I think that was a that was a very effective statement it goes to show you how important these issues are and how these issues work against uh KLA Harris this this election should be a at least from the Republican standpoint um as a strategic matter an election on the based on the performance of the Biden Administration and those are two areas where they've been perceived to have done poorly and even though Harris did very well in the the debate she wasn't able to shake public opinion on those issues and uh if we if we see some of those numbers as far as immigration and the economy is concerned the the distance between the two or the gap between the two candidates is quite significant it is not a marginal Edge that Donald Trump has over kamla Harris on these two specific points is this pretty much the Crux of the us election then yeah I think I think that's the Crux of the election and and the big question is is that KL Harris did extremely well you during during the during the debate but the big question is will this have any effect on her support in the election and we don't we don't we don't know yet um but but it could be the case that it'll only have a um a small effect because of the strength of those issues for the Republicans and the big question is if it had to the extent that it has a small effect will it be in those key seven states indeed and then let let me then ask you this that you know if you are if you are let's say advising the Democrat campaign right now uh what would be your one or two top advises because you know the candidate seems to be the candidate that is kamla Harris is has done fed fed very well she's done well but she seems to be not getting the message across on two key issues of the election well I think on the immigration issue she she she has to hammer home the fact that it was Donald Trump that that blocked a uh ma major piece of legislation that could have been enacted to deal deal more effectively with the immigration issue the other thing she could emphasize is that the the Border problem now has been has been going down that is the number of border border crossing has has been decreasing with with regard to the economy I think she just needs to emphasize what her economic program is going forward in terms of help helping businesses helping working helping Working Families and and also dealing with housing which is a which is a major problem related to related to inflation and and she needs to show she has ideas that could deal with these problems going forward that she's got to emphasize going forward and emphasize how she represents a big change from um Biden and Trump and Professor shabir if you were to say one piece of advice to the Trump campaign what would that be in the wake of these numbers oh I I would I would simply recommend that they they they continue to EMP emphasize th those issues and the big question is is that whe whether there'll be a uh um a second debate and the second debate is an opport opportunity for Trump to do what he what he should have done during the first debate and simply focus on those issues and and not go off the rails talking about crowd sizes and and eating animals and and those particular kinds of things and uh you know kamla Harris cannot rest on The Laurels of her doing well in that first debate I think a second debate would be important for her to enable her to get to enable voters to get her know better and to show the Striking contrast between her and and Trump and to emphasize how you know how she can deal with those particular issues um going forward and I think that's that's pretty important the the other importance of the of a second debate is that this isn't just a presidential election this this is a congressional election for the House of Representatives and the and the Senate and there are also State ballot initiatives on abortion and other issues and and these are things the Democrats need to do well on and the Republicans need to be mindful of this as well but the Republicans control control the House of Representatives and they're look like looks like they're poised to win the Senate yes and I think the second debate would be important in in mobilizing democrats for other things as well right in fact in fact Professor Shapiro stay with us I want to play out this report that tells where exactly do both the candidates stand as far as a second debate if at all it could actually happen because there is now no consensus on that take a look at this report we come back and talk more the first presidential debate between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald J Trump Drew 61.7 million live viewers according to neelen exceeding the Trump Biden debate in tune by 31% many reviews of the debate indicate that Trump struggled against Harris failing to make an impact on the viewers according to reports the Harris campaign is now gunning for a second debate the Harris team believes a second debate could give the vice president a chance to reach voters who are unlikely to attend her rallies reports suggest the Republicans were thinking about what to do as some of them think the debate did not go well for their leader Trump on the other hand has repeatedly claimed he won the debate when a fighter has a bad fight gets knocked out or loses the fight the first thing he says is we want a rematch so we won the debate according to every poll every single poll I think that uh are we going to do a rematch I just don't know but we'll think of according to reports the Trump house is divided with some wanting a rematch but others saying they hoped he would not agree to a second debate unless it was hosted by Fox News something he himself alluded to I would do NBC I'd do fox too I'd do fox too but right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do we had a great night last night and you see by the Paul numbers it was really fantastic while it is difficult for Trump's allies to find a silver lining in the aftermath of the debate the race is far from Over the evidence is mixed for how much the debate could actually shift votes however the current scenario most appears to favor Harris with v VI Bureau report ATV all right will there be a second debate does Trump campaign want a second debate should kamla Harris insist on a second debate to build on this momentum or quot it backfire given that economy and immigration are still areas where her campaign and her messaging seems to have come off quite weak uh let's get that uh and open this up to uh the the panelist joining me on the broadcast is Alex sidan who is uh GOP strategist we also have harini Krishnan uh who is uh uh who represents I think South Asians for kamla Harris and of course Professor Shapiro stays with us thank you so much to all of you for joining me on this broadcast uh let me start with you Alex uh the question is that um the Trump campaign or the Republican house is divided why is that so on a second debate well look the division doesn't exist in my head Bring It On Let's have as many debates as possible this has nothing to do with performance it has to do with the fact that more debates are good for the American people they allow the American people to watch and see their potential presidential candidates their next president likely square off in that format I would love to see former president Trump and vice president Harris face off in a town hall setting to hear questions from average voters this happen in 2016 between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton it would be a very valuable way to see these candidates interact I'll also point out that your numbers show that 67 million people watched the debate in 2020 81 million people voted for President Trump that is not even close to the amount that watched the debate it blows it away so not all of America was watching more attempts for more Americans to see their presidential candidates in action are a good thing har Krishnan respond to uh some critics who said that uh kamla Harris definitely had a moment she came out strong prepared and ready for the Trump uh assault as some would say but uh there's a lot more between now and the C and the actual election and the fact that Taylor Swift actually endorsed on a day when kamla Harris was anyways on a high proves that maybe it is not gone as clearly in Harris's way as some would believe no I think the contrary I think um come on I mean I think anybody who was watching the debate clearly saw what I saw which is um you know Kamala Davy Harris came prepared um she talked about the American people she's only had one client her entire life she talked about the American people she talked about her economic agenda you know I find it strange that you know people are saying she didn't talk about she talked about her economic plan she talked about the $50,000 that she wants to give to to small business startup owners she talked about family tax I'll give you time to respond talk about family tax credit and let me finish she talked about family tax CR uh tax credit and she absolutely talked about an economic plan and she talked about those issues whereas Donald Trump only talk talked about himself he talked about crowd size he talk talked about people eating animals and pets um and you know we we saw exactly I think the world watched that debate we we've all seen it and you know we've got 36 hours in which we've digested all of it the reason why I was asking you specifically is that some of the numbers seem to suggest that as I said uh kamla Harris had her moments she managed to put Donald Trump on the mat and and the world saw it but when it came specifically on issues related to the economy and immigration she was not able to deliver the message home that's what some of the polls seem to suggest so in the wake of that would kamla Harris want another rematch I think she's absolutely ready for a rematch because she would do exactly what she did um in this first debate which is talk about the policies that she would talk about the American people and she would show exactly the contrast right you have somebody who is pewing racist vitriol even in a nationally televised debate um somebody who is talking about random incoherent things versus somebody who is talking about policies and let's talk about immigration you know she addess the fact that it was Trump who told um many congressional leaders not to bring up the border security Bill she was ready to sign it and it was you know that President Biden was ready to sign it that the fact that it was Trump who stopped the bipartisan bipartisan border security bill and when it comes to economy um item you know just uh yesterday um uh Economist came out saying that the inflation is now back in February 2021 um you know what it was in February 2021 and we are you know we are dealing with a far better economy especially after impacting some of the most transformative uh legislation investment and clean energy with the infrastructure reduction act so we are absolutely doing better I think a second debate to emphasize the clear contrast uh the fact that immigration is something that she can absolutely handle okay let's let's get in the other let's get in the other voices yes yes Alex San respond to that and then I get in Professor Shapiro as well Alex the fact is that Trump may have hammered home points to