Must-Have Fantasy Football Draft Targets | Expert Picks for EVERY ROUND (2024)

Introduction Hello everybody welcome into the fantasy pros football podcast I'm Ryan warmley joined today by Pat Fitz Morris and by a rare analy on the shows that I host Joey P Joe we don't do a lot of shows together because typically we're it's one of us in the host chair so kind of fun to have you on as a guest here today appreciate you coming on usually I don't see you till week 12 when all the trade deadlines have ended and then I get to spend some quality time with the Worm but uh I just want to say what a tremendous job you're doing on the shows been watching them and just I think uh we're all grateful especially me that you're here doing more because it's a couple Less ad reads for me to do now and again but uh I'll be over on BP every single day I'll still be here on fantasy pros but uh shout out to worm who's been holding it down here with all the fantasy stuff with all the Dynasty stuff and he's tweeting too and making Tik toks it's a lot of work Ryan does around these parts if if only the YouTube commenters agreed that that's all I could have uh that's okay I everybody knows I'm the worst you're the worst everyone's the worst but you know what they keep watching so someone's doing something for some reason they keep watching uh well maybe one of the big reasons they keep watching is Fitz who is the star of today's episode because Fitz we are talking about your top Targets in every round of 2024 drafts we have done similar episodes for Erikson for Debo I think we did some you me uh you Fitz and Bogman and myself on the dynasty side as well we are now doing this for your top Targets in redraft how are you feeling coming into this episode yeah I have some reservations with Joe here I mean I feel like I'm cooking up this multi-course dinner uh you know back in the kitchen sweating away taking uh putting micro Greens on all the plates with tweezers and uh then Joe gets to to sit back and dine and uh you know complain that this is underseasoned and that's overcooked and like probably he's going to write a scathing review at the end so I'm go full Gordon Ramsay on you today yeah I'm not I'm not going to lie I'm feeling a little it sounds like Joe's actually the one with reservations to your dinner or in your restaurant here so see that's why you're in that chair right now buddy exactly all right we'll jump in here we're going to go through round 16 we'll probably go a little quicker on the back end um just because those are more really personal preference by the time you get to the later rounds and just kind of you know taking flyers on guys throwing darts the early rounds are where you can really make or break your season um just a quick reminder for everyone all of our 2024 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com rankings also a quick reminder to get ready for the ultimate fantasy football showdown with the fifth annual fantasy pros Fantasy Fest join us live on our YouTube channel Monday August 19th starting at 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think the most important League setting you have when Jonathan Taylor you're mapping out your draft strategy is not scoring system whether it's PPR or standard I I think it's the number of receivers you have to start every week like if you start two receivers every week it it becomes much easier to fill your wide receiver position in a a satisfactory way so I think it really pays to pay close attention to running backs in the early rounds um meanwhile if you have to start three wide receivers a week I really think you should be hammering the wide receiver position in the early rounds and maybe going with a a hero running back strategy where you take one workhorse or or kind of you know top 12 15 heavy duty guy who is going to be the anchor and then you can sort of cut Corners at your rb2 spot now I still do want that one hero running back and there are only four running backs I feel with a combination of Elite Talent and a Workhorse role and that's Christian mcaffrey Bree Hall bejan Robinson and John Jonathan Taylor who is always the fourth of those guys drafted and sometimes he goes after jir Gibbs but um I'm pretty excited about Taylor this year I think he can get back to where he was in 2021 when he had 1,800 rushing yards and 20 total touchdowns and I think a big key to that is going to be him playing with Anthony Richardson who rushing ability really is going to open up things for Taylor when they go to you know run pass option stuff in Shane sten's offense and by the way Shane Sten likes to push the pace on offense which we like um but you know we've talked about this on the Dynasty show a lot uh Worman maybe on this show too going back to that Robert Griffin rookie year where Alfred Morris had the crazy season that was really opened up by the uh rushing ability of Robert Griffin because linebackers it's hard to commit to a running back when he puts that ball in your bread basket and you don't know whether it's actually going to be a handoff or if he's going to spin out and uh take off around end so I think that could benefit Taylor and he's just really good which we saw a couple of years ago last couple years he's dealt with injuries but I feel really confident taking him late in the first round and if I do take him in a a league where you have to start three wide receivers then I'm just probably going to take like receivers with my next three rounds and probably four my next five Joe one round in Fitz has exclusively picked Wisconsin badgers just pointing it out what do you make of Taylor this year Fitz I want you to touch this scout up because it's raw it's raw send it back it's terrible no look man uh Jonathan Taylor is a very talented player But continuing to chase the numbers from 2021 are complete Folly 1,800 rushing yards and 18 touchdowns it's never going to be like that again for a few reasons number one the reason it was like that in the first place is cuz Carson Wentz was playing quarterback back then okay people forget that Jonathan was the offense because they had no choice now they have a lot of different choices here and Anthony Richardson is a quarterback that's not only going to take away from some of those rushing opportunities at certain points because of what he can do in some of those circumstances he's going to take away from what Jonathan dor can do in the passing game too because in some of those situations where a third and long he might just break off and go for a big run Anthony richardon next thing you know you know there's no no third and 12 is safe when you have Anthony richardon as a quarterback he's also going to take away some of those rushing touchdowns away from him so what he did a couple years ago was glorious but what he's done since has been a far cry and I think when you talk about the it's not that he can't be a three down back it's not that he's a good fantasy investment he's just not a good fantasy investment at this ADP in my opinion because it's a different coach different system different offense and you have a rushing quarterback that we all know and we've seen it a million times typically those guys do cut into what great fantasy backs can do because they take away from it whether it be the touchdowns whether it be the yardage totals and it's just a different system a different situation that you're in so chasing the old Jonathan Taylor of a couple years ago is just not good and on top of it when you look at the number of injuries this guy's had in the last two years I don't know why you'd want to start a fantasy team with him when at the turn you could look at guys like jir Gibbs who I get it has a little bit of an issue right now but look at what he did last year with nothing basically in the first six weeks of the Season he still had an incredible rushing year he still had 10 rushing touchdowns if I'm going to take a running back there at the turn I'm going to take the guy who's a little younger I'm going to take the guy in the Lions offense I believe in who's got room to improve instead of a guy where I'm worried about what his floor is based on the last two years and Fitz you're not even waiting for the turn to get Taylor right you're taking kind of after that Elite five receivers Elite three running backs you know again because you mentioned him as one of those four kind of Workhorse running backs he is behind those other guys you just like him in that like nine or 10 range even yeah know uh two running uh start two wide receiver League I'm I'm willing to take him almost towards the middle like seven eights or whatever in a start three wide receiver League more like 11 or 12 but uh Joe I I would absolutely make you a wager on who scores more fantasy points between Jonathan Taylor and jir Gibbs who I think averaged what like 14 touches a game in games that David Montgomery played uh last season after Montgomery came back from the rib like I I think the touch outlook for Taylor it's like five to six more touches a game than Gibbs if not more so I'll say this Fitzy I I think running back is just not where I like to start my teams anyway and philosophically this is great because you are somebody that's little comfortable that I know bogs is I know Welsh is for me I'm give me AJ Brown give me Marvin Harrison Jr give me those big-time wide receivers and I feel much more comfortable with the Garrett Wilson's of the world to start my fantasy team than with a running back because I think there's value as you get later on but philosophically I think this's a great discussion and let the people decide well if Fitz is building his teams based off of his early round targets then will definitely be hero RB because I think your next like five rounds are all receivers fit so yeah there there are quite a few coming up here yeah let's get into that round two receiver here who's your favorite guy in this spot all right the round that everyone hates round two and this is there are a lot of uncomfortable choices here so I'm looking at what I feel like is a pretty safe option and it's Chris olve the wide receiver for the Saints Chris Olave and uh a little disclaimer here so when we were looking at ADP um I think number 13 overall was jir G but there is not sometimes jir Gibbs Falls sometimes pukaa Falls to like the top of the second round sometimes Garrett Wilson Falls I don't think any of those guys are consistently available because they often go in the first round so I'm excluding those three alive is a guy who's always there in the second round and um so yeah uh I love Devon H hn but um we know his workload isn't going to be what we'd hope for I mean I'm I'm really attracted to Derek Henry more so than I have been in the past um because I think he could potentially have a monster year but he is a 30-year-old running back so there is some risk there um olve is just a safe second round option especially if you want to go wide receiver he's gone over a thousand yards in each of his first two NFL seasons last year 87 catches 1123 yards 12th in targets among wide receivers um now Al hasn't scored more than five touchdowns in either of his first two years but I I do think there's tou touch down upside for a guy who scored 32 touchdowns in 33 games over his last three years at Ohio State uh the Saints didn't really add any noteworthy pass catches so I think alve is going to continue to have an enormous Target share in this offense I mean it's it's uh rased Shahed is the number two they don't really have any prolific receivers uh pass catchers at tight end in fact they don't have another wide receiver tight end on the roster who's ever had a 50 catch season so things are lined up for alve to be this Target Monster and I know Derek Carr isn't considered an elite quarterback but I mean he's averaged nearly uh 4,000 passing yards a season over his career at one point he's even floated like 2,000 yard receivers when it was Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper in Las Vegas so alive unquestionably is going to be Carr's number one receiver and I I think that there's significant fantasy upside here Joe based on the most recently updated staff rankings on the site I'm guessing you're going to disagree with this because you are the low man on a la I I am and I promise everybody there's actually a lot of Fitz's picks that I really do like and we're gonna get to them it's just not now ol is fine he is just fine he is like that brushetta that they give you at that Italian restaurant that doesn't really taste good but you're hungry and you're like well I'm going to eat this but there's a little bit too much onion in it and there's no like giant wonderful flavor in it a guy that's got nine touchdowns in two years I think the thing with olve fits is 100% correct he is the guy he's the alpha in terms of wide receivers and Carr is better than people give him credit for but this offense did struggle quite a bit in the Red Zone last year uh this is also an offense where the head coach is on the hot seat and I don't like situations where if you get off to a bad start all of a sudden you fire the head coach and there's a little bit of chaos there potentially too with everyone doing jobs that aren't their job necessarily and when it comes down to offensive ecosystem I would rather be going with a guy like let's say Jaylen waddle Nico Collins guys who are in better quarterback situations better or should I say or explosive offenses uh even Drake London Michael Pitman I would put above Chris ol because I think their upside potential is more and I think their floors are very similar so this really doesn't come down so much as like not liking Crystal la I love him as a number two as a number one he's a little lackluster for me because of the offensive ecosystem that he plays in do you find yourself doing a lot of wide receiver wide receiver starts Joe because you mentioned liking wide receiver in that kind of back end of the first round range so if you get like AJ brown or puka or Garrett Wilson or whoever are you often taking another receiver in round two or is that when you're then pivoting to running back I will break for Derrik Henry at all times he can get in the car anytime he wants I don't care if he's 30 years old he's a different sort of running back he's a generational Talent with those guys I especially being undervalued this year I will make a stop for him but yeah typically I do tend to go early wide receiver because I feel like when you look at the zamir whites there mandre Stevenson's the Rashad whites there's a lot of guys that I feel comfortable building a group backfield where they're just solid high-end number two guys that are just going to be the guy there and maybe they're not in the most explosive offenses but the explosive offenses especially since most people are playing in PBR leagues I want those big wide receivers I want the guys that have 1300 yard seasons and double- digit touchdown potential and there's a finite number of those guys so I want to get as many as I can in the first three rounds it's it's funny I find myself really struggling in early rounds this year because my favorite first round pick is like one of Bree or beon running back my favorite second round pick is Derrick Henry running back my favorite third round pick might be Isaiah Pacho running back I'm not going to start running back running back running back but yeah I just love where these guys are going in drafts I couldn't agree more on Derrick Henry I've talked about a plenty of this summer everybody knows that already um let's let's go to round three and Fitz I will preface this by saying I'm pretty sure you picked the same name that Ericson picked it's the same name that dbro picked it's the same name that everybody has been talking about on our recent shows I will let you say who the name is but this is uh this has been a very consistent theme in round three for us and I know Joe is not going to pan me on this one because he just mentioned this name himself it's Jaylen waddle um I have him ranked wide receiver 13 and I Jaylen Waddle think that's about four spots above consensus uh three NFL seasons for Jaylen wad three, yard seasons did it last year despite missing a few games and uh he he's done it the last two years despite having to share targets with Tyreek Hill um you know a prolific Target hog so Wadd has been very um like just a safe Play We Like Mike McDaniels a play caller I know Tu aunga voo is not Universal universally beloved among fantasy managers but he did lead the NFL in passing yardage last year um and yeah over the last two years Jaylen wad has average 10.7 yards per Target and almost two and a half yards per route run so that shows he is a very efficient and very dangerous wide receiver like I just I think he's the safest and best option in the third round Joe I don't think there's really an argument against the floor of Jaylen waddle assuming Health which is true for everybody but what do you think of his ceiling well I think the ceiling looks a lot like it did two years ago when he was healthy uh which was a tremendous season for jayen waddle you know any guy who comes in the league and has 100 receptions as a rookie and then follows it up with a 1300 yard receiving season oh wait while T Tyreek Hill is around too so the upside might be a little bit more if Tyreek Hill mites any time for injury he becomes a little bit more of a Target hog but the floor is so high already I'm with fits 100% on this one waddl in the third round is a great value coming into draft season he was grossly under ranked in my opinion and I keep going back to the ecosystem thing in the blackbook this year I put together this this concept which is grading the quarterback the offensive line the coaching system the continuity the skill position players and when you put all those things together what you have is a grade of how good of an offensive ecosystem that exists and the Dolphins are one of the best ones because of the continuity because of the coaching because of the efficiency they check a lot of boxes and that's the kind of offense that you want to be invested in and I know it can be a volatile one at times in terms of health but you can't just Peg Jaylen W as a guy that is injury-prone based on one year that's not fair to Jaylen waddle and always follow the money they paid him this off season which means the Dolphins believe in him and they are absolutely thinking about him as a crucial part of this offense going forward Fitz just because we did pick this name on the other iterations of the show that we've done was there anybody else that you considered if if Wadd in in your league is gone because somebody takes him in round two or whatever is there another round three guy you're pivoting to yeah uh I don't have the ADP page in front of me woren but is Pacho a round three guy I think he was right or is he round two now he looks like he's now moved up actually to late round two um yeah round three looking at guys like Jacobs leaport dvo Nico is round three in some spots um I'm looking at the ADP consensus on fantasy pros right now auku I know you're down on uh momes Evans I mean Wadd seems like the clear option in Reading out these names yeah really Evans is the only guy I might have considered there and I have Evans I think ranked one spot behind WD anybody saying that to you Joe uh in that range it's interesting uh to consider one of the tight ends there um Wadd for me is definitely one of those guys niik Collins definitely one of those guys for me Pitman that's kind of that wide receiver class yeah another good week of Caleb Williams uh in preseason maybe I'll start to feel a little bit more comfortable with DJ Moore uh but yeah I I think that's kind of where we're living there however I've done a lot of drafts where Derrick Henry has slipped because he's 30 to that third round and in anyone where he slips there I am just going right for Derrick Henry and I've seen that happen in our mock drafts I've seen it happen in our you know expert League drafts recently too there's just way too much fading and I know everybody can't believe I came on here to pump up Derrick Henry to Ryan like how did that happen I don't know but I I think that's where you start to look at that running back position you say okay well you know if you're going to give me Derrik Henry or the lottery ticket that is Devon Anan after I have two solid wide receivers I think I'm going to take that lottery ticket and see how it plays out and then be a little bit more aggressive in the back end of drafting a guy like you know Jaylen Wright later on because I do want to back that up because I know how volatile that stock of hn could be I feel like I have a pretty good sense of where I would need to take Henry to get him in these all the expert leagues I've I've done I'm really curious in like home leagues more casual leagues more casual managers as uh as Fitz would call them Squares uh I'm kind of curious where Henry will fall in some of those drafts so I I'll I'll be keeping close eye on that uh it's one more early round Target here give us your round four guy Devonte Smith and I think he's sort of De’Vonta Smith in the same basket as Jaylen Wadd is in that they're both being underdrawers on their respective teams but both guys are just terrific players in the their own right and Devonte Smith might be even more underrated than Jaylen Wadd like he is one of the best route runners in the league I love watching this guy play like he is so fun and obviously AJ Brown takes up a lot of oxygen in the uh Eagles offensive ecosystem but man I mean Devonte Smith has averaged 88 catches and 1131 yards over the last two seasons with seven touchdowns in each of those years and and Joe talked about the um you know implied upside that Jaylen waddle would have if anything ever happened to Tyreek Hill and I think we have to consider the same thing with Devonte Smith if anything ever happened to AJ Brown so um he's shown us a very sturdy floor and the price in the fourth round I think Devonte Smith is being drafted like at least a full round lower than he should be Joe where do you have Smith ranked uh probably lower than some other folks do uh Smith is steady uh and I think what Fitz is doing here is really clear and I think it does have a lot of Merit and I want to point that out so just because I can sit here and pick a hard stuff it's really easy to sit here you know and play in Rat tatouille be Anton ego and say I don't like this I don't like that but I think at the end I bet you didn't have a rat tatouille reference on your bingo cards today folks but um I think what Fitz is showing you is how to build a great floor team and that's great because Fitz is really great at identifying breakout talents so he's going to make up for that later on in this draft I could assure you that where Devonte Smith is for me in terms of um the rankings he is a he is a very good wide receiver too I'd rather have him as a three so Fitz's ability to have him as the three makes a lot of sense to me because what you're trying to do from a relative position value standpoint is you're trying to have guys in spots that are going to outperform their spot on a roster so most people are going to have a wide receiver one most people can have a wide receiver two the reason why olve falls short for me because I feel like he is a below average wide receiver one in fantasy league average if you combine the scores of the 10 here and get an average of the top 12 guys Ola is going to fall underneath that so I don't want to be behind at wide receiver one however Jaylen Wadd I think is going to be above the fantasy league average wide receiver 2 same thing with Smith as a three he's a distinct Advantage so Fitz is showing you ways to make up that ground and and Smith is certainly one of those guys that you could do that with I have Smith probably a little lower than some other people too um looking at my rankings and I will be lower than him I have behind guys like Malik neighbors right now because again I'm looking at Target share uh right off the bat so he is more like a wide receiver 20 to me but uh a terrific value here for Fitz in the fourth I am not a fancy enough eater to have gotten some of the references I do get the ratou reference though that's stay for the culture folks come for the football I I named my dog that I got last summer Wall-E and everybody was like oh like the Pixar movie and I was like no I just like the name w-e any Pixar reference I will be I will be on board Fitz are you a Pixar guy oh yeah I mean I've I've got two kids who uh watched a lot of Pixar movies with so absolutely okay I wasn't I mean I I know I make a lot of jokes by your age but obviously the kids that makes sense so uh so I get that one there it is time to throw another shrimp on the barbie get in on all the UFC 305 action live from the land 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guy fits it's Malik neighbors and Joe's right I have uh been aiming for a Malik Nabers lot of high floor guys so let's shoot the moon with an upside play here with Malik neighbors and uh I I think he's gonna be a star and we have been getting um highlight real catches from him on a daily basis from training camp we certainly got a lot of highlight re catches and run after the catches in uh when he was in Baton Rouge making big plays for LSU and it just there was a debate in some quarters about whether Malik neighbors should have actually been the first wide receiver off the board in this year's draft ahead of Marvin Harrison Jr and I love Marvin Harrison Jr worm as you well know but um like I saw Merit to that debate I think neighbors is fantastic ftic and he's just really good route Runner exceptional after the catch and a lot of people are reluctant to buy the rookies because they have not given us any sort of NFL track record there's nothing to go on um I am happy to take the most obviously gifted rookies at a discount and buy them at what is inevitably going to be the lowest price that they will ever have in fantasy drafts until they get into the Twilight of their careers and I want to do that this year with Malik Neighbors I mean so far in in the actually the actual managed redrafts uh redraft leagues I've done so far I think I have neighbors in either half or maybe even more than half of those drafts I was GNA say if I'm on the clock in round five and Malik n is available it means that my computer died and I auto picked in round four because otherwise I would have taken him there and he would not make it to round five I think he's an absolutely like Auto smash receiver in this range 10 out of 10 like I will be taking him everywhere if I can get him at this point even with like some of the ankle like injury question mark stuff like I just think he's too good and and I love what your point about he will never be this cheap again if he is the guy that if he's 80% of the guy we think he can be he will never be this cheap again um Joe you obviously mentioned him in the last round so I assume you're on board with this pick I am and I think the only way he lasts for the fifth round is maybe in a 10 Team league because I can tell you in any League you're playing in what people who know what they're doing he is not going to last this long so you're going to have to pull the trigger most likely earlier which you're seeing in the early ADP you know some casual drafting on some of the bigger sites on fantasy pros you could see the consensus ADP but I was just in a draft yesterday in the last couple days actually for the blackbook charity League that we do which is raises money for St Judes it's got a lot of sharps in it from our Discord people like DVR and foxw like all the all the sharps of the sharp right they're all in this league together with me and um I will tell you this Malik neighbors mccl like all the guys that we think oh they're going to be there later they're moving up the boards where the sharps are so be aware of that if you want neighbors you're going to have to take them over Smith which is a a question I would ask you Fitz like with that probably being the case in the next couple weeks is that ADP has obviously gotten closer together for these two if you could only pick one of those guys would you take the safety net of the Eagles offense which is the better offense and maybe you know the Lesser Target share with Smith or would you take Malik neighbors with all the upside all the target share but he plays with Daniel Jones I am taking I right now I have neighbors ranked uh wide receiver 16 and Devonte Smith wide receiver 18 so yes I I love neighbors and I know some people um so maybe he does go in the fifth round if it's not an industry draft and it's not a draft in the uh New York New Jersey metropolitan area Joe like on the a West Coast home League I could see Neighbors sneaking in because not only are people you know do people have a little trepidation about drafting rookies but people are terrified of Daniel Jones but um with good reason yeah with good reason but two years ago when Daniel Jones was healthy all year in in Brian DA's first season as the head coach um the Giants were 16th in offensive touchdowns I think they had 37 TDS that year which was actually the same number the Chiefs scored last year I believe so like they were not a train wreck of an offense um maybe that's as good as it ever gets with the dble Daniel Jones combination but uh there is a ray of Hope there and I I know Daniel Jones can throw a spiral and and uh just you know put the ball in Malik area's Malik neighbors area code you know what the one thing I would just say to that to counter it a little bit just for fun is that the numbers when Daniel Jones has saquon Barkley and didn't have saquon Barkley are so Stark that that's my big concern can he operate an offense that doesn't have a run game with a a big time running back in it that the defenses have to account for because no matter what you think of Deon single ter you can like Deon single ter this year you can like what they have on the death chart it's not saquon Barkley in terms of talent we all know that so what that offense looks like how Daniel Jones performs it is a huge if now as Malik is a three sign me up I'm still good for the upside I know Fitz is too but if you are in drafts in the triay area or you know let's not forget that hard knock effect too people are going to start watching the Bears one they're gonna go oh let's watch this Giants once too and they're going to start watching this this coaching staff in the front office just gush over Malik neighbors he was the number one guy on their board over Harrison well Harrison's going there I can get Malik here it's going to change the only thing that might suppress us is this early injury that he's had that doesn't seem like a big one but injuries sometimes do scare people off just Uber Elite Talent he's going to get all the targets he can possibly handle like it just don't overthink it like just take the super talented guy um speaking of talented guys uh next up for you Fitz and and it's Terry McClaren and I want us to say that I I wrote him up recently Terry McLaurin for one of our you know collaborative articles on the site as a guy that like I don't understand why his ADP is as low as it is it's the lowest it's been since his rookie year when he was a day two pick who was totally unproven and yet he is the best quarterback of his career so I mean tell me why I'm right on Terry McLaren uh you are right and uh let let's look at the quarterbacks with whom Terry McClaren has played at least two games during his career in Wast uh Dwayne H Haskins Kyle Allen late career Alex Smith Carson Wentz Taylor hinek Sam Howell jacobe brassett and now he gets to play with the number two overall pick and and a reigning Heisman Trophy winner and a guy who scor uh threw I believe 31 touchdown passes to his top two wide receivers last year in just 13 games so um and and that's it now there's touchdown upside for Terry muren uh who's only had 25 touchdowns in 80 career games and I I think we are going to see Jaden Daniels raise that touchdown ceiling a little bit and mclen has had 77 catches or more and a thousand yards or more in four straight Seasons so like he is very safe but now I think Jaden Daniels raises the ceiling and I'm surprised that he is typically ranked in like mid-range to even low-end wide receiver three range wh why do you think that is Fitz I mean he's an ADP right now it's 72nd overall so like back end of the sixth round not even just in the sixth round and wide receiver 31 I think he finishes he's not going to be a wide receiver one but I think he's closer to that point than he is to like a wide receiver 3 like I I I just think again he's really talented I don't understand the ADP it's very confusing to me yeah the the lack of touchdowns have kind of tamped down his overall fantasy finishes but this is a much better offense you would think much better offense and Cliff kingsberry is going to push the pace like Kingsbury offenses always go really fast like I I think the Washington offense I don't want to say sleeping giant but like I have been I have probably drafted more Washington Commanders so far this year than anyone from any other team which is a little scary not gonna lie about that but uh hey no more Daniel Snider it's a A Brave New World for Washington commanders fans and I I'll climb aboard the bandwagon he's also still only 28 I mean he'll turn 29 early in the season but it's not like he's in his like mid-30s or anything Joe where are you at on McLaren this year very high super high I think it could make case for him over Malik neighbors to be honest with you because I think the quarterback pure talent of Jaden Daniels just flat out better uh and I don't know if that's a hot take necessarily uh I believe in Dan Quinn I think Second Time Around in the NFL you get a lot of head coaches who are good football coaches they seem to get it that second time around I think Dan Quinn's gonna be one of these guys um I'm with Fitz too I find myself drafting Commander something I don't usually do but when uh mayor asked us for the write up of the Bold predictions one of mine was that Tera mcclaren's going to finish as a wide receiver one this year and the reason why is if you look at the Baseline of what he does every year thousand yards receiving with all these horrendous quarterbacks he's had to play with all this time in the last three years he's never had more than five touchdowns in a season what if it's just an incremental change what if he gets to eight nine maybe even 10 touchdowns this year which is not absurd at all considering now that you have a little bit more balance with the Run game with Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler you have a rushing quarterback who's going to extend plays move the chains the biggest deficit for the commanders has been turnovers right guys like Sam Hal thr a million picks in situations right you can't score points if you give up the football if Jaden Daniels can not only not give up the football but also extend drives it's going to give Terry McClaren a lot more chance to score fantasy points and I think the floor is so enticing the upside is so much more that if he has a 12200 or even 1300 yard receiving season and nine or 10 touchdowns it sounds like a wide receiver one to me so I'm aggressive on mclen again if you're in a draft with me he ain't going to last this long but if you're a 10 teamer and he's still there take him every single time man Joe I just pulled up the article cuz you mentioned that uh in that same bold predictions article we both picked mclen and you went Bolder than I did I said he was going to be close to a wide receiver one you said he would be a wide receiver one so you w up to me there but but I totally agree obviously and the point that I made you know in my little blurb on this is that like Garrett Wilson talented receiver who finally gets a quarterback upgrade he's wide receiver seven Drake London talented receiver who finally gets a quarterback upgrade he's wide receiver 11 McClaren talented receiver who finally gets a quarterback upgrade and he's like a mid wide receiver three like I'm not saying he should be ranked with those guys but I just I don't get the disparity being as big as it is I don't either and Terry McClaren has proven that he's been quarterback proof you know Garrett Wilson maybe a little bit of times but like I know the Chet situation was so bad last year uh Drake London I don't think he's been quarterback proof it's not like DeAndre Hopkins who was having huge Seasons with you know Brock Osweiler and and Brian Hoyer and all the guys that he had to play with that's a guy that was quarterback proof that we could say that about some of the other guys haven't proven that so to your point ter McClaren much closer I think theoretically to those guys and if if you are somebody who's going running back early like you two have talked about some of these backs or if you want to go hero RB you're trying to make up ground McLaren is the quintessential guy that is just being ranked way too low a wide receiver three who can finish as a high-end two if not a one uh that is just a value you can't pass on and that's how you win leagues at the end of the day yeah I love it absolutely love it all right Fitz let's get to your first quarterback here it's Jordan love and uh I know some people are going to Jordan Love accuse me of making a homer selection with this one but um so we've been trying to figure out how to play The Green Bay wide receivers they have four good ones uh maybe even five if you include Bo Melton who oddly enough was the first Packers receiver to have a 100 yard receiving game last season um they also have two good young tight ends with Luke musgrav and Tucker craft maybe the way to tap into all of that exciting young pass catching ability is by just drafting the quarterback and not having to worry about the week- toe volatility of all those wide receivers and tight ends uh just draft love I mean he's affordable quarterback 10 is his ADP um so last year over his first nine starts love was averaging 223 point2 passing yards a game uh over his last eight starts of 2023 in the regular season 268.2 passing yards per game 18 touchdown passes one interception a 70.3 completion percentage and 7.7 yards per attempt like those are star numbers and I know they did face some opponents who were missing like some key Defenders but um like he was terrific I mean it just he looked the parts he's got exceptional arm talents and not just like a guy who's rocketing every pass as hard as he can like he can feather a ball in between two Defenders if he needs to um yeah so I'm I'm totally sold on Jordan Love's Talent uh he does that a little bit of of rushing value he had 247 rushing yards and four TD runs last year so not a lot but just enough to give you a little a little taste of that um I think he's going to finish in quarterback one range again this year and maybe with all that pass catching Talent the Green Bay Packers have uh there's room for like a top five or top six finish Joe I'm curious your opinion on Jordan love but also what your approach to quarterback as a position is this year well first let's just get an opinion from somebody without a cheese head hat somebody who doesn't you know bed the uh the gold and green uh I also love Jordan love this year uh for a lot of the reasons why Fitz pointed out so so if you're looking for the non Homer version of everything that fit said I'm just going to basically give you the same stuff the guy was brilliant the second half last year and to say that he was brilliant would be an understatement considering I don't think he was working with a whole lot I he didn't have Aaron Jones for most of that run that he had in that second half right he kind of showed up at the very tail end of that he was working without Christian Watson who to me is by far the most talented on paper wide receiver and on the field so if you get better running back play more consistent and if you're going to get a healthy Christian Watson and maybe an evolution of Davian Wicks as another you know fun explosive wide receiver where you've already established dos and and obviously Jaden Reed had a really good season there's a lot more room for Jordan love to be great um Love is one of my favorite pivot Points at quarterback so to me I look at quarter back whereas you know you get that red flare that goes up in every single draft to talk about this in the single quarterback League where Mahomes goes or Allen goes wherever it is goes first so you then know okay well is it going to be round two is it going to be around three where that first quarterback run happens the later it happens the more I am apt to follow it so if it happens in round three or four I'm much more apt to jump in the pool for a Lamar Jackson in the fourth round that's a tremendous value if you get a guy like that and you know when it's going to start when it starts to get to that other grouping I love Richardson it's a huge upside and a 10 Team league I'm more apt to do it because the replacement value at wide receiver is going to be greater based on supply and demand it's just a numbers game at that point right so you can have the elite quarterback have your cake and eat it too because guys like McLaren guys like Malik neighbors they're going to get suppressed in ADP just based on the number of players that have already been taken when you get to the 12 team it gets a little dice here and if that quarterback run happens earlier and then those mid-tier Burl Richardson uh Kyler Murray that whole discussion Point goes then I am very happy waiting and if you've seen all these mock drafts I do time and time again I've been taking Jordan love and that's typically my fallback guy because I do think he is going to continue to build on what he did last year can he be quite as good he doesn't have to be all he's got to do is carry over 80% of what he did in the second half last year in the last eight games to the first nine games and if he could do that he's going to finish as a top five quarterback potentially that's in the range of outcomes as Derrick Brown likes to say so check that off the box today but I am also where Fitz is I'm very enamored of Jordan love I've got him qb8 this year and quite frankly I think he if I'm if that if he's not qb8 I think he's more likely to be better than that than he is to be worse I I I've got him at seven so I don't think that's a hot fits what do you have one is that where you have F uh no I think I I have a qb9 I'm trying to be how can we be higher than you know I know come on wow I know this is this is very enlightening about F just for the record show I I do bleed melted cheddar for the record all right let's go to round eight here Fitz who you got all right I've got um Deontay Diontae Johnson Johnson and it's nice to have the opportunity to get a high volume receiver this late in drafts and I know the Panthers offense was kind of a train wreck in 2023 but nevertheless through 11 weeks of the 2020 3 regular season Adam thielen was wide receiver 10 in full point PPR scoring he was averaging over nine targets and like seven and a half catches a game and now Deontay Johnson is going to be the alpha Target of Bryce young and we're hoping the Panthers can get some offensive improvement with quarterback whisper Dave caneles uh hopefully working the same Magic on Bryce young that he worked on Baker Mayfield last year so um I'm pretty excited about the past catching potential for Deontay Johnson we know he's probably not going to average you know 14 or 15 yards a catch and he's probably not going to score double digit touchdowns but if we can get 90 to 100 receptions for Deontay Johnson from an eighth round pick uh you're going to turn a significant profit Joe what do you think of Johnson well you know Deontay Johnson is a guy that a couple years ago had zero touchdowns I remember that and look the best place to go for that repeat would certainly be the Carolina Panthers offense however I I do like Dave Canalis and and I think what he has done with the Gino Smith situation the baker Mayfield situation does give you hope for the Bryce young situation I love how fits is when from all these exciting sexy picks to like the most boring pick you could possibly make here uh but I get it uh I I think the Xavier worthy pick is that similar range is one that I would prefer they're going very close in ADP it depends on how you build your team right I'm somebody that is getting some bigger name wide receivers early on so in this range I'm more apt to go with a Xavier worthy type Fitz has built that wide receiver floor grouping and then he went a little sexier then now he's back to the floor so that makes a lot of sense in PPR yeah he's going to probably be a double- digit guy most weeks but he's capped because of what that offense most likely is going to be so that's where I struggle with it whereas I'll take the guy that plays with Patrick Mahomes and maybe there's some boom or bust in there but the upside is huge and when you're looking at Flex wide receivers I want the upside in the big offense guys I'm sitting here with a couple of Baseball fans and anybody who knows me knows there's basically nothing in the world I love more than going to baseball games all summer long in fact I've already made plans to attend not one not two but all three Orioles games out here in Denver when they play the Rockies at the end of this month and to make sure I get the best seats for those games at the best price I turned to game time with killer last minute deals Allin prices views from their seat 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redeem code F an t a s y p r oos for $20 off download game time today last minute tickets lowest price guaranteed Joe have you made it to a lot of baseball games this summer uh I've made it to a few Sommerset Patriot Games the doublea Yankees cuz they're around the corner so that's a much easier lift plus there's fireworks at the end at night and that's funny the kids love the fireworks you got a funnel cake in the fireworks that's pretty good I gotten to see you know some of these Yankee prospects that have come through too and moved up so that's been kind of fun this is the closest I've lived to a baseball stadium I'm about 20 20 plus maybe like 22 minutes uh from the rocky stadium and it's pretty cheap because they're terrible so it's a it's place to go hey when when is that game are you going to see them clinch the Orioles I mean I'm going it's Labor Day weekend so it's Friday Saturday Sunday could be I mean I might see the rocky clinch being eliminated yeah I think that's a long time past exactly all right Fitz let's go to your round nine favorite Target Jaden Daniels and we have talked about Jayden Daniels him already he offers the same sort of rushing potential that Anthony Richardson offers and Daniel is considered a more accomplished passer coming out of college than Richardson was and yet Jaden Daniels is significantly cheaper in drafts this year than anony Anthony Richardson over his final two years at LSU Jaden Daniel said 2019 rushing yards and and that's factoring in that sack yardage is deducted from rushing yardage for college quarterbacks for some reason um not only that but like the the passing potential like he averaged 3177 passing yards and 3.3 touchdown passes a game for LSU last year so there is some pretty big upside um I I think we should be excited about him playing in a cliff kingsbery offense since we saw Kyler Murray finish in qb1 range as a rookie in Cliff Kings Berry's offense um High upside here uh rushing ability is the cheat code for quarterbacks the Konami Code hat tip to our friend Rich rebar for coming up with that great fantasy football phrase and uh Jaden Daniels is unquestionably a Konami Code quarterback Joe I'm curious where you have Jaden Daniels I I find myself ranking him in that like back end of qb1 territory and like I almost wish I was less of a coward and what could rank him higher but also like I see the downside you know like the way he runs I get worried about injuries I know dbo hates when people bring that up um he he also checks a lot of the boxes of quarterback prospects that I tend not to like like a late career breakout that sort of thing and then you watch him play and it's like how's this dude not going to be a top five fantasy quarterback so so where do you come down on him well how he's not a top five fantasy quarterback is if he gets hurt because he doesn't change his running style because he has to start sliding more this is not a situation that is up for debate at this point I guys in the NFL you're going to get your ass kicked if you don't hit the a little bit more so you can't do that same instinctual thing where you're trying to get that extra yard what you're going to get lit up in this league so that's the only thing that I think can keep him I'm have at 12 actually just updated my ranks this morning on him and I think the the only point that I would make here is like I not there's nothing you can add we already know how great Daniels is as a talent the unknown is there if you're going to draft Jordan love just in a draft I would not be even pivoting to Daniels at all I would make that decision so you're either somebody who wants to go late quarterback with Jordan love and you're happy with that or you're somebody that wants to go really late and be a impressive by a round maybe even two on Jane Daniels the question I had and it was a great debate we had a discussion on the CBS podcast I was a guest on there yesterday and we were doing the quarterbacks and talking about the upside QB as a breakout potential and the one thing I would put in there is we had this discussion about do you draft a second quarterback if you have Daniels I'm of the Mind do you draft certain quarterbacks if it's Jeff jarro G that's around if it's Kirt cousins that's around maybe Matthew Stafford like those guys yes at the whatever the ADP at the back end of last round round of a draft or second to last round cool if those guys all go then you just hope and pray that Daniels is that guy otherwise you miss out on depth that's the other thing too is if you draft Jordan love and you're gonna take Daniels you don't want to do the same thing so I think what Pat's doing is just saying hey this is the best guy in the round not necessarily do this as a strategy yeah Fitz we talked a lot about Daniels like on the dynasty pod and I was more hesitant there with the running style and all the stuff Joe mentioned you know I I always he people say well you know Lamar's not that big and he he's gets hert in the pocket not running I'm like yeah but he like knows how to take hits when he's running like Jane Daniels just like jumps head first over the line in the first quarter of a game you know against against the Citadel like I mean it's just like he's Reckless as a runner and I hope that changes because he's so fun to watch and he's so clearly talented yeah he I mean that get it cost LSU a chance to beat Alabama last year because they were in that game I think he got crash test dummied by Dallas Turner got knocked out of the game and then Alabama just roared ahead and won the game so um yeah he does have to start sliding and not taking those uh ridiculously head-on shots and at the same time like I'm as a drafter definitely have the mindset of like League winner Vibes only and like if Jane Daniels does stay healthy where he's going could absolutely be one of these quarterbacks that turns into a League winner which is not easy to do but he's got the skill set to do it so um I totally am on board with the pick here uh round 10 a name that you have brought up pretty much on every show we've done all summer yeah let's celebrate my 500th offseason mention of Chase Brown um and like this is as much Chase Brown a bat against Zack Moss as it is a bat on Chase Brown because Chase Brown had 58 touches last year as Joe mixon's backup like we do not have much of a track record to go on made some big plays um but he did put down a pretty impressive track record at the University of Illinois in his last season there he averaged 27.3 carries a game 29.6 touches a game 1883 yards from scrimmage 13 touchdowns in 12 games so he could be a Workhorse if the Bengals decided he was better than Zack moss and they wanted to give him the Joe Mixon role and uh let's see what other teams have decided that someone else was better than Zach Moss oh the bills made the decision three straight years that Devon single ter was better than Zach moss and gave him more snaps and touches and I don't think anyone thinks Devin Singletary is a star-level running back um Moss did have that excellent four game stretch early last season when Jonathan Taylor was on IR but then from week six on Moss averaged 3.6 yards per carry so um I do think it's going to be a split to some degree in the Cincinnati backfield but I want to bet on the guy who's faster younger a better pass catcher and more explosive Joe are you team Chase brown or team Zach Moss uh well I have to choose I really don't want to because I'd rather just go look somewhere else I'll choose Chase Brown too uh I'm not a believer in Zach Moss I know last year was really fun but it was a unique situation and you know Shane Sten I think is a genius so he can if he can make Zach Moss a star sure he can make anybody a star right I'm sure that's why Pat loves Jonathan Taylor so much at the top I just don't think that offense is going to support what he did a couple years ago but yeah Chase Brown to me another one of these guys where this is the RICO dle Chase Brown Trey Benson you're throwing darts at running backs Blake Quorum you know secondary guys that you think can break out and brown is as good as any I just don't know how big of a role he's going to have in this offense which I think is going to be much more pass heavy but between moss and brown I'll take my chances with brown let's go to round 11 kind of start the late round targets uh Fitz you're starting off with Pat Fri mouth AKA Pat fitzer mouth because you also love this guy talk about him on a lot of shits I do uh I believe in leveraging the depth at the tight end position the rare depth it's unusual to Pat Freiermuth have this sort of depth there and if you are extremely patient at tight end and can find Pat fouth waiting for you in the 11th round um here's my pitch on him uh Arthur Smith is now the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator and play caller and although you know Arthur Smith is sort of a curse word among fantasy managers um his tight ends in Atlanta last year collectively combined for seven uh 174 targets 114 catches 1380 yards and seven touchdowns it was chopped up among several players uh Kyle pittz jnu Smith some others but man I mean like who's gonna share with Pat Fri with Darnell Washington who's mostly a blocker uh Hayward uh M Michael prit like it's GNA be Fri MTH basically and even if the Steelers do end up trading for Brandon iuk and have the auk and Pickins combination I think they're going to be plenty of tight end Targets in this offense and and Pat fouth could have the uh you know most prominent he's already had a couple 60 plus reception Seasons like I think we could see him push like 75 this year Joe similar to the the quarterback discussion I'm curious both your thoughts on fouth and kind of your approach to the position for me I really want one of those Elite six or seven names if I don't get them though Fri MTH is right at the top of my list yeah it's the guy that I drafted in the flex League this year in the expert League it's the guy they just took in that charity League that I just mentioned too I am with you 100% I think that's exactly the route which is if you can get one of these top guys in a good spot great if you get one of those guys in the middle even better because I think that allows you the upside of all those big wide receivers that you want to take in those rounds two and three and then still the upside of guys like Kyle Pitts and canade and and all those other dudes that I think can well outperform their ADP then after that it's like Evan Ingram who I think is you know going to surprise people again there I think there's going to be plenty of targets and full PPR again he's going to be a better player Than People realize but the Pivot Point at tight end again is fmuth and the longer this auk thing drags on again as a recording this we don't have Clarity on it but if auk doesn't show up there that's good for Fri Mo's value in that term the only thing is if auk shows up I think it's maybe better for Fri mouth in the Red Zone potentially as a Target because then I think it becomes a really tough team to defend against when you have auk and Pickins and Fri mouth could really benefit in the red zone so maybe the touchdown total goes up but I think the targets go down so it's a give and take but Fri Mo again Pat mentioned it you mentioned it the death of tight end is great this year a far cry from last year's board when we're so concerned about what it looks like now you can wait on tight end and frth is exactly the guy that I tend to wait for I'm so tired of having to give the caveat of uh as of the time we're recording this auk has not been moved yet but you can do that the top of every show and it would be right forever yeah all right Fitz round 12 who are you targeting so all of these Green Bay Packers receivers have their fans uh certainly Christian Watson and Jaden Reed do and davien Wix is everyone's sleeper but the guy who kind of gets overlooked is Romeo dobs and um I I know Packers cornerback Jer Romeo Doubs Alexander thinks that Romeo dobs is like the best wide receiver on the team and uh actually Jer said that he's the second best receiver in the NFL behind only Devonte Adams now I'm not quite willing to go that far with dobs but um he has reportedly just been killing it in training camp this year like dobs is taking a big step up and maybe um again it's going to be messy with these wide receivers but like I don't mind having Romeo dos as like my fifth receiver as a potential filling guy because it does seem like he is a receiver who Jordan love consistently leans on and um it seems to show up most games like it it hasn't equated to any sort of fantasy relevant season yet but I wonder if there might be one coming and uh maybe it takes an injury to one of the other guys maybe it takes another Kristen Watson injury for dubs to really pop but this late in the draft I think he's a worthwhile flyer Joe at Cost do you have a personal preference among the Packers receivers oh that's the question yeah at Cost it's still Christian Watson uh because the cost is wide receiver 40 and the upside is incredible uh but at Cost Romeo dobs is is not a bad investment either so I think what Pat's doing is very astute which is hey just take the guy and a good offense again in the good offensive situation typically leads to good fantasy points because there isn't Clarity with the health of Christian Watson yet so I think that's a a a Savvy move by a very Savvy individual in patfit moris are you tired of Draft Day uncertainty the cheat sheet Creator is your personal guide to perfect League specific rankings visualize your path to Victory as you add tiar and sync your league to craft custom rankings ensuring every pick is strategic and tailored to your league settings enter your draft with confidence sync your league today at fantasypros.com draft Wizard or on the fantasy football draft Wizard app and use the cheat cheat Creator to dominate your draft all right four rounds left we'll move a little quicker through these CU like I said at the top of the show you kind of get into more just personal preference the guys that you want to be throwing darts on this year round 13 fits who are you taking Joshua Palmer Josh Palmer uh the Chargers are another team with an ambiguous wide receiver situation Palmer could very easily lead this team in receiving yards and and TD catches and uh he's going pretty late in drafts yeah granted we know the Chargers are going to be run heavy with um um your boy Greg Roman calling the play Worm but um still someone's got to someone's got to catch those uh perfect Justin Herbert Spirals and I think Josh Palmer will be on the receiving end of a few if anybody has ever been less my guy than Greg Roman I haven't met them yet F you'll appreciate the reference to me he is the mark Turon of offensive coordinators and I know that is a very Niche reference for our audience um I'm all in on the Josh Palmer call though I think if Justin Herbert winds up for most of the Season then I think Palmer is a huge value Joe are you high or low on Palmer I think it's a good value there and they think it's hilarious that people think well Greg Roman's here so the Chargers will never throw the football again like Justin Herbert's going to have 10 pass attempts are you crazy like you just can't compare Justin Herbert as a passer to Lamar Jackson not to mention like the potential weapons that might be out there too not to mention oh wait is any is there a dominant running back in this backfield cuz I don't see it yet so let's not pretend like they're not not going to throw the ball Fitzy's very as dup by making this Josh Palmer pick he's got a lot of upside in a good situation with a good quarterback so yeah you can do a lot worse than Josh Palmer to cover some by weeks for you they they like there is a world where Josh Palmer is very clearly the number one wide receiver in this offense sure and they will throw enough that if you are clearly the number one wide receiver with Justin Herbert throwing you passes that you should be going a lot higher than in the wide receiver 50s range uh round 14 fits Jalil mlin running back Denver Broncos um showed some juice last Jaleel McLaughlin last year is an undrafted free agents and uh Shawn Payton keeps talking him up talking about his wor e work ethic and how he is a guy who's like always in the facility early one of the last to leave and really the appeal here is the pass catching potential because Shawn Payton's offense is always funnel targets to the running backs and oh by the way they drafted a quarterback Bo Nicks who was a screen and checkdown guy at College I mean he like threw so many more screens in dump off passes than any other QB Prospect in this draft class um the Broncos led the NFL with a 153 running back targets last year I think only one other team had more than 130 and just throughout Payton's tenure in New Orleans the saints were always funneling balls to their running back so I think there's pretty significant pass catching upside for Julia mlin and uh you know maybe some rushing upside too I know D had mlin in round 14 I think Erikson might have two I don't remember that episode Joe are you going to make it a clean sweep you guys are spending way too much time together you guys got to get out more uh but look Molin to all of the guys credit is somebody that if you're taking shots on RB late why not a guy that could take over this backfield you could make a case for maybe some of the Bears guys too you know with the early usage we saw kou Herbert in that preseason game maybe that's the right pick here but I can't argue against mlin here round 15 Fitz Damen Pierce Maybe Dameon Pierce the Texans have rejected the idea that he is their running back of the future but uh I still think he's one of the better handcuffs in the league like I I liked him two years ago I know last year didn't really work out I mean when he started the year as their running back I think they had like one of their projected offensive line starters actually healthy so um I don't know I still think Pierce is a pretty talented running back and uh you know at this point I'm I'm looking to take flyers at the RB position you know the meme of like the car dealership where it's just a big sign that says zero % interest that is me with Damen Pierce I have 0% interest in drafting Pierce this year even late I just have not I he was so bad last year Joe Joe Damien Pierce any thoughts if Pierce was any good why they bring in Mixon like that's at the end of the day like you have to follow the money follow the money and that will often tell you the answer you need with certain players now sometimes it goes the other way sometimes injuries change the dynamic of a situation pop Douglas in that round Justin Fields if you took a quarterback you don't love is really interesting in that round and Germaine Burton another Talent that's really interesting in that round too those are the sign of the pivot Points I would go to last pick here fits round 16 and you're not taking a kicker no I'm not and in a round where uh if you look at ADP this is where the kickers and defenses dwell but I'm going to take the Taysom Hill human Swiss army knife Tamm Hill of the New Orleans Saints and um you know like they're they're talking about once again uh using tesm Hill in a lot of different ways and apparently he is going to play that that super utility role that he has been playing for them and man like it's it's sometimes tough to figure out when the big weeks are coming but we are going to get the that handful of big weeks from Tamm Hill again and uh you know here's a guy you can plug in at the tight end position and get rushing and passing yardage from in addition to the occasional pass reception so um round 16 this is a uh a what the heck kind of pick you know the way they the way they use him he probably could kick too I mean they they've tried him everywhere else uh Joe tesm Hill like it as a last pick boy I talk about you know the coming full circle here not one but two Saints here olve and tesm Hill so basically you're hedging that big olve pick early on Fitz I don't get it look I understand it by weeks can be crushing injuries can be crushing I if you're going to take a dart at the end of a draft I'd still be taking it on more running backs than I would on on the Swiss army knife that is Tamm Hill uh instead of a lackluster Saints attack but I certainly get it because the question is not you know can he be good the question is what week will he be good that's the tough thing and you hope it's the week that you need to play him that's the only thing you got to worry about with Tam Hill one last thing before we get out of here fits I'm just curious in the process of sitting down and actually coming up with your names Closing for each round did you kind of learn anything about your strategy this year did it kind of reveal to you that oh you know what I actually really like the wide receivers in this round or I really want to go running back early did anything kind of become apparent as you made this list yeah it worked out a lot like the way I like to draft where it's like get a running back early and then just Hammer wide receiver for like the next five or six rounds and um yeah that's kind of worked how it worked out here weight on quarterbacks and tight ends um it it pretty much mirrored my strategy in 20124 drafts Joe is this a five-star experience at Fitz's restaurant uh I would G to give it four and a half uh because uh everything else is there maybe a few disagreements but at the end of the day it's a delicious meal cooked by a a very worthy Chef always but again it's a difference of approach and I think that's what's so great these shows you want to to talk about the differences of approach I'm the heavy wide receiver person and taking shots on running back and the one place I can always find running back help typically on the waiver wire Elite wide receivers puka that was a fun story but that doesn't happen every year it was a festar experience for me to get to chat with you guys today so I appreciate you guys make it the time I appreciate everybody listening please everybody do check out the Fantasy Fest on Monday Monday is my birthday so that's like be my birthday present can be that you listen to the show and tune in and watch and uh follow along we've got like I said before tons of awesome guests and we've put a lot of time and effort into planning this thing so I hope everybody checks it out and has a good time for the fifth annual Fantasy Fest from fantasy prows for Joe and Fitz I'm Ryan warmly thank you everybody for tuning in and we'll see you again next time