Doug Casey's Take [ep.#348] Who Really Won the Debate?

Introduction and Historical Context all right good morning Doug this is the day after the long awaited debate between kamla or k Mala and uh and Trump so we're gonna talk about that but first this day in history well uh I feel like whenever I open the Encyclopedia Britannica to delve into uh the history of this day I I I feel like I'm looking at a recitation of black history uh they did mention uh as the headline the main headline that today is 911 when uh the attack on the World Trade Center happened but as far as people being born uh two of the headliners were uh taji P Henson I'm sure you've heard of well I didn't know it it's a female she's a female actress and and ludicrous I hadn't heard of him but uh he's a rapper but I don't listen to rap it's it's dissonant and so often offensive anyway uh that's what happened in history today the three things that stood out to me from scanning the encyclopedia yeah taji P henders Henson yeah I had no idea who she was still have no idea who she is act I see her face and I still don't recognize her no well her her PR agent obviously has a connection at uh the encyclopedia and somebody perhaps there were was cash that was of the hundreds of people born on this day in history uh somehow Taraji made the cut along with ludicrous yeah that's good I wouldn't doubt that uh there's either somebody really really PC at the encyclopedia which there is uh Andor there was a envelope of cash passed in both instances but who knows who knows who knows well did you do you do you have any uh comments on uh 911 9/11 Reflections and Conspiracy Theories that you'd like well it's Fading Into history at this point uh I guess the most outstanding thing that uh well I'll just draw a couple things to people's attention that I think are important number one nobody talks about building seven actually which is highly suspicious cuz it wasn't hit uh by anything very little debris hit it but uh oddly it uh fell in its own footprint six or eight hours later was it so seemed like a control demolition to me but nobody talks about that uh another thing that nobody talks about is um the fact that they started clearing all the rubble from the buildings what was it like a week later uh this is a major crime scene and uh would have been nice if they' investigated what was going on there in detail uh were supporting beams cut were the supporting beams blown as as has been uh alleged I suspect a uh forensic architect or engineer or a team might have found a lot if they hadn't cleared the rebble away ASAP and shipped it all off to uh to China for recycling yeah exactly so the whole thing is fishy yeah whole thing is fishy um yeah and it's amazing that people sometimes people say you guys never talk about 911 and it's to me it's surprising in the comments I've I've heard this before but it's surprising to me that everybody doesn't already understand that there's something incredibly fishy that happened with the entire thing uh you know it's like it seems like it's old news and there's been so many people that have done deep Dives on different aspects of it that all don't make any sense at all but no I forgot about the fact that all but one of the uh alleged attackers or Saudi citizens had nothing to do with Afghanistan or Iraq or or Iraq and uh Osama Bin Laden said he approved of it but he didn't have anything to do with it and if he did have something to do with it you think that would be a feather in his cap and he would have taken credit but he didn't but uh it was a good excuse to idiotically invade Afghanistan and and maybe kill him well we don't know for a fact I mean all we know is what we're told like the uh that picture in the uh in a war room where uh Hillary and a bunch of these other types are sitting around and she has a shocked look on her face what are the American people are they children that they can't be shown the video that made made Hillary look shocked well yeah well I I mean they definitely treat us like children and I think people act like children so it makes sense yeah it actually does make sense sense I mean it actually does the Debate Analysis: Trump vs. Kamala American people have become very degraded and and perhaps perhaps there's further evidence of that with the debate last night which I guess is our main subject of conversation yeah actually I have that picture of uh Hillary where she's uh I if I can share this quickly just so people know what you're talking about with it uh let's see if I can find it obvious she's she's like gasping essentially no it doesn't show up but she's anyways they're in the situation room and she's like like that well listen considering the hard-bitten that Hillary is anything that could make her a gasp has got to be interesting indeed I want to see exactly yeah I mean you know I it's like the we should release the body cam footage for all this stuff right absolutely ABS absolutely and I still don't know if it's true that the Seal team that supposedly executed this attack on uh on on the house we don't know anything except what we're told but apparently they died in a suspicious helicopter accident a short time afterwards well at least we heard that and then we didn't hear it anymore I don't know what the facts are that's definitely what was reported yeah they lost a they lost a whole bunch of uh members of SEAL Team Six in this helicopter crash and uh let's see where was it yeah uh yeah the yeah chinuk helicopter was shot down in the Tangi Valley of the wock province in Afghanistan 17 uh Navy Seals died died well 38 total people were killed 38 in total well I think it's dangerous enough being a seal or a special operator but it's even more dangerous in that you might see things or learn things that are very dangerous to some people and you have to be taken out too it's a little bit like the mob you know the mob has somebody hit they want to be double sure they have to hit the guy that did the hit too to distance yeah like I said I don't know that for a fact that that uh Osama was was hit because they say they gave him a proper Muslim Burial at Sea there is no such thing I know but Americans are just this is why you say Americans are treated like children they act like children they just swallowed that pill as if oh that must be true yeah exactly our government wouldn't lie to us uh but we had two fine upstanding representatives of the US government uh talking to each other last night more or less politely yeah I think that was like I was kind of looking forward to it hoping I guess I was hoping to see the 2016 Trump again because he was hilarious in those debates I mean that was the best part of it he just like tore everyone down he had lot he had his grasp of really bad or really um incriminating details on each of the candidates each of his opposition and he he was just I mean he was hilarious and seemed like to be a real truth teller in that like he was just I don't know what changed uh since then maybe it is eight years later maybe he's just older not sure could be uh I I noticed that too he used to be so spontaneous and entertaining but uh last night Trump had a squinty frown on his face the entire time uh I guess that was authentic but um he he missed I mean I made I made notes of not so much what they said but um what they were talking about because there was really nothing substantive on either either of their parts although I got to say that um how could I say that that uh Kamala uh or Kamala or whatever is uh dislikable just because I dislike her maybe the average person does like her I don't know but uh yeah Trump was not was not up to his usual game yeah it seemed like she she had clearly been coached well before the before the debate like she she was not the typical version of her that I think we see like she'd been coached up and even like her the facial expression she was doing was really they were smart I mean it made him look ridiculous at times you know there's her looks toward him like they gave her a really intensive acting lesson uh about well first of all she her cackle her that ridiculous laugh she has that she's like expunged that I wonder if anybody will notice uh that uh no she was she was like programmed actually uh almost she seemed like an Android uh I didn't is she likable or is she not likable what's the average because that's was the importance of this thing I mean they were saying like a couple of grade school kids uh yes you did no you didn't arguing with each other about what the facts are and so forth but who's likable because that's what that's what's going to sway the people that haven't made a decision how to vote who's were they I mean I think uh I think honestly she probably came off more human and really relatable and likable than he did during that debate that'd be my that'd be my take you may be right but it's probably my pre-existing animus against kamla and everything she represents that maybe think that no she's very unlikable but hey I'm uh I'm not a I'm not a voter on the fence trying to decide who yeah I agree with you I agree with you I I think she's ridiculous and when she most of the time when she's talking she says nothing you know she's just it's she she's like a Mackenzie consultant you know just using big words and talking about big things let's talk about the plan let's talk about the plan but there's nothing in the plan you know there's no plan you [Music] know yeah well the first thing they Pandemic Perspectives and Economic Plans talked about was uh the pandemic and uh I don't even remember I should have played it again and and parsed everything that they each said but I guess they each blamed the supposed pandemic on each other and I'll tell you what I think Trump believes I think he's come to believe that the whole pandemic was really just a hysteria was a scam uh it wasn't real and I think the facts are coming out that that's the case it's just a flu that really just killed uh old people and sick people and morbidly obese people that's I think what the numbers are showing but he didn't point that out and I don't know why maybe he was told don't point that out because it's a can of worms and you'll seem incredible you have any thoughts about that yeah I think I mean he never wants to admit he's wrong with anything and so at first you know he was really downplaying the co hysteria and then he kind of got behind it and you know started acting as though it was all real and so if if he finds out now that he was if if he believes he was duped in the whole thing he doesn't want to admit it that he got conned into the hysteria like everyone else you know so I think that's just a topic he would want to avoid yeah and at first he was taking credit for that I think actually very dangerous vaccine and now he's not taking credit for it anyway it was they're pointing the finger at each other and they're both horrible uh second thing I made a note about was um ah they were talking a bit on the economy and it it seems that they both have plans for the economy I found that disturbing in that President shouldn't have plans or the economy America's success is due to the free market and the lack of plans whether they're four-year plans that some socialist countries have or five-year plans that other socialist countries have but they both got plans that's really disturbing and both of their plans are bad as I understand them I mean we talked about some of Trump's stuff before where and recently he was saying that he would do a 100% tariff on countries that were um you know not supporting the dollar as a reserve currency so that's not well defined exactly what that means but 100% tariff on those countries that's 100% tax on the goods from those countries that Americans have to pay and that's terrible oh it's very dangerous now since I basically live outside the US and I don't support the dollar it's a floating abstraction it's a Fiat paper currency I hope they don't put a 100% tariff on me too if Trump wins although we probably will get foreign exchange controls uh no matter who wins right and so that's that's kind of what the little bit we understand about his economic plans that's one thing he mentioned last week and then you know her plans was we're going to give money to these different people you know we're going to give people $25,000 for a new home we're going to give people $6,000 for a kid we're gonna there's one other one she mentioned I 50,000 dollar tax exemption tax credit for new business yeah was it what is it a tax credit yeah that's what she said well that opens the door for huge scams and Corruption everybody exactly like we had with the covid stuff where people would say you had employees and they I mean it was like hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud that happened in that that's really stupid these people should not have plans in fact it was an ideal time for Trump to say one of the main reasons for the economic success that I have and it was not the greatest economy in history everybody's got to know that's a lie I mean because it wasn't uh in so far as he had success was because he had minor tax reductions and there was deregulation and that's what should do cut taxes and deregulate Al although they can't cut taxes if they increase spending it'll just come out in a different way these people are both economic ignoramuses it's embarrassing anyway the next thing that they talked about was abortion uh Abortion Debate and Project 2025 I look what I feel personally which makes no difference because everybody's got some kind of personal feelings about it is that it's between a woman and her doctor and it's matter of personal conscience it's not for the government to decide oh I mean what what do you think about this well I think that they just love this issue because it's so divisive that's why it always has to be front and center every election year every election cycle and they got they make it it it just it just uh it energizes people on both sides of it and really oif guys you know everything like no one can move because this is the the thing they cannot they can't get around it so and he and he didn't have any good answers for it really like I mean he he could have had a well practiced answer for it because what he said is he said I think the government shouldn't tell what a woman should what a woman should be doing with their body which is why he supported the Supreme Court decision to push it down to the States which is where it should be anyway because it's not the thing that federal government is structured to handle right he's just got to say you don't want me deciding do you you don't want me or somebody like me who's a president to be sding this you want it like this takes it out of our hands and kicks it to where you are locally I mean it's the it's it was easy for him to respond to you know if you're afraid especially people think he's a monster and Hitler and all this and he goes do you think you want me to decide you want to keep this power the federal government no you don't you want it out of the federal government SS y precisely right so this is he should have had thought out exactly what he was going to say and the the words he was going to say it with I think what you just said off the cuff was excellent but he's such an eagle Maniac that he doesn't believe he needs any prep I think that's the problem you should think these things out a little bit before you go into combat yeah yeah I think that's the biggest thing that stood out to me was that she is I'm like she's coachable and he's not now for as a leader you might not want a leader who's super coachable honestly but as a but if you're going into a a specific event that is not your you know not something you do very often then getting some coaching can help you be more successful in it so you're you're quite correct it but it is nice to have a leader who will listen to other points of view and assess them and be aware of other points of trump doesn't know or care I don't think too bad oh well all right so that's the portion uh the next thing uh I made a note of was Trump um kind of uh denied any involvement with project 2025 this 900 page document put together by the Heritage Foundation I haven't read it because I have no interest in reading a 900 page document from a think tank uh frankly my guess is that uh it was putting forth mostly intelligent things because at least they're a conservative think tank they're not Libertarians but at least they're conservative so so he's going out of his way to uh decry any responsibility or involvement I think that's a mistake but I think it's a mistake too apparently the the guys behind that were early and loyal supporters of his this entire time too so you know for him to just throw them under the bus is is a bad I I think it's a bad idea it's a bad look that's for sure but he also the way to handle that better would be able to say listen this is a political Think Tank there are polit there are think tanks on the left also and they came out show some examples of policy papers that have come out from the left that are insane that that kamla would not support either and just say these people write papers that's what their job is they do it all the time but what they say and what I do are different would you just because this terrible Think Tank on your side wrote this would you do you believe that we you should do that are you obligated to embrace that I there was a a good way to handle it Matt if there's some way that we could have dressed you up and did an AI or one of these bodysuits and put you on there instead of trump the answer that you have are vastly better than the ones that Trump came up with just on the and you're you're on the spur of the moment H anyway baby Trump is actually too old to run I mean listen he's an Energizer Bunny I mean the the fact he can do these rallies and everything that he does he he's an amazing person yeah but uh you know a man's got to know his limitations and I think ain't what it used to be I don't think you just imagine the way that if if that had been tried on vivec for instance it wouldn't worked VC would have had a response that would have been detailed and compelling to counteract whatever was said and I and I and I just think it's because his you know he is very smart and he's a very good debater and a good communicator and his but his mind is as sharp as it could be and I I think that might be Trump's problem I'm afraid you're right uh the next Immigration Policies and Final Thoughts thing uh that was on the um host agenda uh was immigration which Trump wanted to get into much earlier I think was under the economy where he spent half of his time instead of talking about the economy talking about immigration and um what did Kamala say should be done about immigration did she say anything uh I I thought she um you know I actually I can't recall but I'm the position she's taken is that there should be uh I I think that she supported a bill before that would have hired some more border agents and stuff like this and would have and she and she blamed the lack of border security on uh them not getting a bill through Congress that and he he discouraged people from sign from doing that bill I think that's what she's talked about that in the past I think that's what she talked about yeah well this should be a nonpr I mean Trump never brought up the fact and I think it is the fact that uh uh NOS were spending hundreds of millions billions who knows of dollars actually importing these people and giving them debit cards and then the government various governments giving them places to live and free medical and free food what's that all about that was all happening in the last four years Trump never stated that which which is Trump's Missed Opportunities on Immigration actually a a fact that you can see why didn't he mention that yeah and I he's never mentioned this anywhere I've seen it talking about the specifically the financing of these NOS which is was a Bill signed by Biden that sent billions of dollars to these partners to be able to uh help manage migration and it's never been mentioned yeah I mean the fact that there were millions of people lined up at the border and were in effect welcomed across the border they should have been stopped at the border you don't have a Visa you don't have a right to be here you're not coming in well could have said just what they say at a bar you don't have to go home but you can't stay here but actually they should go home and he should have said that anyway and yeah I mean part of it is it's kind of it's kind of hard to pin him down on what's the thing what's the what's the Smoking Gun that you can hold on them because this is kind of a confusing mess like where do they come from how are they getting here how are they but I mean I remember looking it up during one of our calls we were actually that Larry Johnson was on with us and he was asking somebody asked him questions about it and I just did some Googling while we're on the call and found the bill that Biden signed signed that was passed by Congress Biden signed and that had uh huge line items for these NOS billions and billions of dollars like that's like who decided to give them the money and what exactly was the authority you gave them to violate US law you know right and why when you have tens of thousands of people lined up at the border why do you have to let them in I mean it it's tan amount to an invasion when you let thousands and thousands and thousands of people that you don't know who they are just walk across the border and then uh give them a place to live and play take respons it's it's not our business it's it's crazy anyway Trump didn't handle it that way at all he should have nailed her on The Challenge of Deportation that he was just whining about the fact that all these people are here and of course the one big question that he really didn't answer all was a direct question what are you going to do with these 10 million or 20 million people you said you're going to export them well finally the us will have an export but uh how are you g to do it it's a very reasonable question you didn't answer it well maybe there is no answer how are you gonna round all up all these people and then where do you send them exactly right well as you've been saying for a long time this country won't don't have to take them back these people get rid of their passports to so they can't travel back and the country that you're trying to deport them to doesn't have to receive them and we found with all the stuff that was happening in Aurora Colorado with those apartments and some criminal activity there on these Venezuelan gangs it would they tried to deport a couple of people from that but Venezuela wouldn't accept them so what do you do that's right they're here it's like the early days of the uh the gay movement we're here we're queer get used to it yeah there's no way there's no obvious way out and you know we talked before about the the largest uh deportation in history operation you know where uh during the Eisenhower Administration they supposedly deported uh a million I think it was Mexicans that were here but at least then they knew they were Mexican they just had to push them down and across the border and be like no no you're going to walk across you're not coming back but now I mean it's it's a logistical problem there's you know hundred countries they come from now all over the world it's a logistical problem where do you put them so how how was it this was touched on briefly by Trump but Springfield, Ohio: A Case Study he didn't nail Camala with it uh Springfield Ohio 20,000 Haitians arrive there just what are they doing why were they all sent to Springfield Ohio why aren't they in Haiti I think that there's a poultry plant there that that's employing most of them actually ah but wasn't the poultry plant didn't it previously have employees or for what uh I think that they had work worker shortage problems and I think what what's interesting is I I've seen seems like for a lot of I know that the um there was a you know a beef packer in the in the town that I'm from in in Iowa and you know it was all locals that worked there and over time it all became they're all Hispanics mostly Mexicans that ended up working there when I was growing up and a lot of them were illegal and everyone knew it it was an Open Secret you know that that they that was all illegals working there and I think somehow these those types of jobs somehow connected with Catholic Charities or whoever for as part of jobs program so these Catholic Charities that's helping that gets Finance from the Biden Administration to be able to logistically bring all these people in and get them settled I think that they're they're like they're putting them in places where you have these processing plants where they have these really low agage jobs and uh they're they're putting them in there they're filling the jobs with them well I haven't been to Springfield Ohio but there's anecdotal evidence that Springfield which is said to be 60% Republican voting is very unhappy at having a a gigantic mass of alien completely alien culture foreigners don't speak the language don't have the religion different race different values different everything and they've just descended upon them they've got good reason to be unhappy it's just destroying you know the previous residents Town yeah yeah I mean there's all kinds of videos circulating with uh you know uh with citizens speaking up at a city council meeting and then some YouTubers have gone and gone to the town and have interviewed residents including some Haitians and they ask all the Haitians like are are are you guys stealing and eating cats that's a big thing they're asking them all yes they all say I don't know anything about it that's what they say I don't I don't do I don't know anything about it is the response well at least perhaps they're religious people anyway which is a stabilizing Factor although the religion Voodoo is not something that most Americans are familiar with no I don't think they are I think they'll have a problem with it I guess it's the you'll find out department anyway Trump handled that badly too uh the next thing that Gaza and Israel: Trump's Take they talked about that I have here was Gaza and Israel and uh Kamala had rehearsed an answer and what did Trump say he was going to do he was gonna mag he said Israel would be gone in two years if she was President well maybe I mean I don't see how Israel can possibly survive as a a Jewish country in an island a a Jewish Island in a gigantic sea of Islam where it's obvious that the you know maybe he's right could be right y but still his answer wasn't it wasn't um I mean she her answer was nothing I mean in that she said well obviously you know they were attacked in this horrific thing and she T you know made some claims that have been proven wrong about what actually happened on October 7th but she said she went the party line about what what actually happened then and Israel has a right to defend itself but you know then talked about how they defend themselves is important and she you know criticized him on that end so she's like on this hand and on the other hand she didn't take a divisive I shouldn't say what she was going to do about it uh and Trump didn't really say what he was going to do about it but wait a minute uh if I was dressed up in a trump suit and had to answer I'd say look you've got a Hatfields and McCoy type situation it's none of our business all we can do by supporting the Hatfields or The McCoys even if we prefer one group is make it worse uh and make the world wider perhaps so yeah it's kind of his basic response is it never would have happened if I were president same thing as he said about Ukraine that's right that's right or or not right I have no idea anyway that was unanswered questions so uh the next thing that they were talking about The Afghanistan Withdrawal was Afghanistan the uh the sad exit uh of troops or maybe Trump just brought that up I don't know if the uh it said that the interviewers from ABC were uh although they were calm and measured and reasonable they were subtly anti-trump they definitely fact checked him several times and they didn't do that once to uh to K Mala uh Mala even when she said she made claims like the you know the fine people hoax like sh act as though that was still true you know so she she like repeated things that are clearly disproven and they never fact checked her but they did fact check him several times that's true and I think what happened was that uh it was Trump that brought up that rather ignominious exit from Afghanistan which was actually more ignominious than the US's exit from um from uh Vietnam where the last helicopter out had people hanging on to its Runners from the top of the embassy it was pretty much the same situation yeah it was I don't remember what did she respond to it though I don't remember her responding to it I don't know why I can't remember well I think the best thing that she could have done was she said well I think what she said was that uh four presidents have tried to get us out of there I'm not sure they did try uh but Joe Biden's actually the one that did it that was the response but that's kind of a nonresponse because it was done so poorly so stupidly uh and Trump didn't follow up on that adequately $85 billion worth of material which was pointlessly left there which has made the Taliban a huge source of income for the Taliban and uh giving them a the wherewithal to be origionally very powerful military force in addition right just say all you got to imagine all those weapons end up all over the world you know sold in the black market and who knows where they could show up back in the US oh probably will anyway Trump didn't pursue that quite as much as he should have at all and then um last thing I made a note on Obamacare and Its Impact was Obamacare where Trump shilly shied saying I didn't like it I it's a rotten program but we have it blah blah blah and the only correct answer to Obamacare is it should have been abolished because it destroyed the US medical system by bureaucratizing it in effect forcing most doctors to become employees so the doctor patient relationship has been destroyed I mean I I even found that with a local doctor I work with when I'm here in Virginia and uh I asked him questions and he seemed like a decent guy knowledgeable guy probably even basically a right thinking guy but he wouldn't answer questions if they had anything to do with for instance the co hysteria because he could have lost his job this is all because of Obamacare really well and it it's such an easy one to attack because all he has to do is you know say did you think your health care and health insurance was better before Obamacare or not is it better now everyone I think everyone who who has been an adult long enough through that process would acknowledge it's far worse and far more expensive it's easy to kill the idea but you just have to go after it directly well this is one of the reasons why deregulation is so hard to do because once you have a status quo people are afraid of a change where big brother is not going to be watching over them as much my God we danger we might have Anarchy in the country if if the government's not there regulating things and running the medical system yes it's rotten it's terrible it's ridiculous but it'll be worse if big brother doesn't watch it so this is the whole problem the as uh as Michael Moore correctly pointed out when we talked about him and his 20 reasons why kamalo was going to win it's that the US population itself is totally corupted uh and basically has accepted socialist values so it's very to put it to reverse this goes back to you get treat you act like children you get treated like children and I think that you know being uh wanting socialist ideas and to be under a you know a daddy government is basically you know the children's View and that's what Americans want for the most part so there were both of them I guess the Debate Dynamics and Public Perception bottom line from my point of view uh is that uh both of them did a poor job but what really matters I think is that debate was really about a platform where the average American can look at them and assess whether he likes them and whether he trusts them uh that's what it was all about because they haven't really seen much of Kam at all over the last four years now they got to see her uh and it's a question well was she likable or was she not they've seen Trump before but they've seen that in this debate he wasn't the old Trump uh I don't know it's it's basically a kind of a a psychological beauty contest which is what that debate was all about it's not about the intellectual rigor of their answers uh so who won uh I'm just guessing well none of the trumpies would be non- trumpies because the debate and Trump wouldn't have turned around any Democrats so it's just those few people in the middle who are by definition have no real philosophy and are unknowledgeable you can't be in the middle when you're talking about the difference between the Democrats and anybody else so it's um I think camela is insincere and phony is I think she came across in some to me I I think she she won voters because of this forget about one the debate she won voters that's my guess yeah I think the big things with these debates that's happened in the past is that it something would happen that would shame or embarrass the candidate so they would lose you know lose support so it's almost like not a debate wasn't something where you could necessarily gain but it was definitely something where you could lose if you misstepped if you you know came your demeanor came off the wrong way on camera or something like that and she didn't lose it that time she didn't do anything that was she didn't sound as as uh idiotic as she often does when she's speaking off the cuff and so she didn't the whole like you know when she talks about space and she talks about Russia is a big country and Ukraine's a little country you know she she didn't sound so I think that she didn't lose because of that and I think that the fact that she didn't lose I think is more important than anything else like she didn't disqualify herself yeah that's right and television is very dangerous in some ways because uh the famous Kennedy Nixon debate which I think was the first televised debate uh it said I mean I don't really know uh when that happened I was I was 14 but uh or something like that 1960 yeah so um uh it said that Nixon really won the debate but he lost the debate because his makeup artist made him look like a corpse whereas Kennedy looked tanned and vital and that impression a corpse versus some a vital better-looking guy basically steered the election towards Kennedy and it was so close that Nixon would have won they say if it hadn't been for the Democrats cheating in Chicago yeah TV's dangers like that and so she was clearly practicing for all that like her mannerisms where she you know with her she's given like that smiling with her head forward looking at him like you're like is is always being ridiculous you know here you go again kind of look and it's those things that's right communication is very effective to people yeah there you go again that worked for Reagan yep exactly so well I was hoping for something more entertaining what we got out of the debate but but there's gonna be another I understand yeah they're talking about it they're talking about it apparently she wants another one he said and then Trump was a was saying well that's because she lost of course she wants a rematch just like the loser in any boxing match you know they always immediately they want a rematch he spins it so well I mean know it's it's it's funny well who can tell how the degraded American public really reacted to camela and reacted to the less vigorous than 2016 Trump yeah I haven't seen any polls on it or anything like that yet and of course the people who support kamla think that she won and the people that support Trump think that he won that's saying we can't believe the polls anyway because you know I really am of the opinion that the Democrats these Jacobin that have cemented themselves into office in uh DC and do not want to be extricated they'll do anything to stay in office and continue doing what they're doing so that um it's a question of who cheats better and the Democrats are really so much better cheating than the Republicans are uh and the polls I don't trust any of this stuff actually but as long as they're close where they can say yeah it was 4951 it was a horse race well yeah then you can cheat and it's credible and nobody's gonna gain Sav exactly and isn't it weird that our elections are always about 5050 that it's always like 52 to 48 you know why are we really that equally divided always I think the only election in the living memory that was really lopsided I think was the Goldwater Johnson election in 1964 and that's really indicative because Goldwater impressed me as a a decent human being he was sincerely a free market guy and of course Johnson was just a smarmy criminal and uh I and Goldwater lost 45 to 55 or something close to that uh which was considered a blood bath is you're right it's usually right on the edge and maybe these 20 million migrants that a la vote Democrat will provide just the extra few votes that are needed I think so and you can see they're they're so well organized getting here getting set up here get you know these we talk about these these Haitian migrants getting jobs in Springfield Ohio so them getting into jobs there's organization behind it you have to assume that organization that made everything EP a tell now happen can also facilitate voting I me why wouldn't it yeah now I'm afraid that uh God this is horrible I'm afraid the Democrats are going to win I mean this is a this is a nightmare because one thing that Trump Concerns About the Future said last night which was accurate uh was that they're both marxists they're actually both Communists and you put that together with the leftover Biden East in Washington they're going to actively transform this country I think so too I think so too and that that's the point like if he could have hit on that more he could could have explained to people what that meant you know for people I think that that would be good because I I think most people can't even not they don't because I think Americans like socialist light just like most you know of the West like socialist light at this stage but if he could have just articulated clearly what that actually means and what she actually believes based upon what she's said and where she wants to take things and how that'll be the country will be gone that wasn't about not about Israel being not existent in two years it's about you know the us not being existent in any any recognizable way in two years that's absolutely right that's that's really disturbing because people that come from totally on free countries come here and they say you know if it when the US is gone there's not gonna wouldn't be any place for us to run there won't be any real free countries left in the world of of substance yeah yeah I agree all right well I guess hopefully Concluding Thoughts and Future Debates there will be another debate we'll be able to see that see if Trump can better articulate his vision of the world and vision of the future compared to kamla then get another shot at it but I guess we'll see I don't want to apologize to our viewers for bumming them out with a sad conclusion but uh it's so much as if you have cancer and your doctor tells you you have cancer yeah to bum you out but it if he told you you didn't have cancer you're not going to do anything and you're gonna die but if all right so you got cancer you got to do something about it now so think for war is forearmed exactly yep you just have to accept reality it's a bad reality but if you start if you can accept it you can start to do something things about it to insulate yourself protect yourself extricate yourself in some way from what's coming and as always I like to I always look at the bright side and the bright side is hey we could be wrong we could I hope we are we are all right Doug we'll leave it there for today we'll be back on Friday with more so thank you so much