Rashida Jones | SmartLess

[Music] so welcome to smartless everybody um I hope you have a full charge on your iPod do people still use iPods I don't think so I think they just use is that what they listen to us on um their phones they're just okay Boomer what is is Boomer what ages or Boomers 19 46 to 64 I just looked it up today truly truly wow what's a Zer us that's us no we're Gen X man oh we're X sorry what are the ages of X Jed X is like 19 well sorry we keeping you up you know we're rolling bro 1960 are we rolling right now yeah we're cold opening the [ __ ] out of this right now is this an all new smart lless all right welcome to smartless [Music] [Applause] smart smart glass [Music] smart BL oh yeah yeah Will yes well will today's Will's guest it is yeah it is how you how you feeling about your guest today will I'm feeling very good about my guest yeah well because I mean I don't want to get into it too quickly but because it's somebody that we all know so you'd think I would have a preference as to so you know either your guests or Sean's guests by now like who ends up MH hosting better guests um do you guys have a preference like I think it's pretty random right like who a lot of times we bring people on that that we all know yeah and then sometimes it's it's a lot of times as people not none of us know and sometimes we and sometimes it's in the middle and sometimes it's right in the middle and but like and sometimes reach out to guests and then sometimes guests reach out to us and it's just it's just it's just it's a great blend you guys I I should I got to listen to this pointing it out this show seems great um Jason it was good to see you last night we all had dinner last night and we haven't seen you in so long yeah I know it was so nice to see you and the dinner was super fun and everybody was funny all night I know I laughed real hard last night and then um I told you I you know I'm real sweet on that TIG Naro she's great she's so funny I just love her hysterical hysterical um I told will this a couple weeks ago Jason I finally saw the Godfather oh boy yeah Sean says to me the other day and it was really good he goes hey um was it good Sean SC you know what we we watched uh we watched The Godfather the other night it's really good and I said oh did you think everybody was lying and then I just watched that part two like two days ago three days ago now they say that part two is better than the first I don't remember having a feeling uh either way yeah I I I think they're different they're they're both excellent part two the The Godfather 2 is excellent as well yeah I I kind of had to pause every 10 minutes be like Scotty who's that who's that who's that there's so many characters oh you're one of those it remind me never to watch a movie with you okay never watch uh and then uh number three gets a bad rap but I don't remember like watching number three and going this is terrible I I think you got a bad rap at the time and then now people have as they look back they go like they've had a different yeah I just found I Scotty just said U Copa went back in and recut it recently like in the last 5 years or so oh really oh really yeah I if that's true yeah three and a half yeah anyway check it out if you haven't seen it hey yeah if you haven't seen any of The Godfather fil welcome to smartless hot takes on new films it's like the time Jason came up to me and said uh hey you know what I watch you know really Blues Brothers is a really good movie yeah remember the 1980 film I know oh there so I said was uh uh band uh was humming like the flash Dan song the other day and I go you know never seen it she goes oh you're such a loser I really am there's so many remember last night we were talking about at close range which is a good movie I want to go back one I haven't seen it I haven't seen I need to see it who's in that go Sean pen and Chris Walkin oh yeah I want to see that yeah let's see I never saw Flash Dance you didn't no now that surprises what about ghost I love ghost Sean I'm surprised you haven't seen Flash Dance I I know me too cuz I dance cuz you like dancing and you're flashy flashy all right is enough of the [ __ ] reges Kathy Lee chatter let's get what are you talking about this the fun part and so is the guest part but this is fun too I know but I I always feel bad for the guests they got to sit there and listen to the patter all right fine Well everybody's got busy lives too they're probably you know sending emails and texts and stuff and you think your guest is is is sending emails and stuff well I know that are put it this way okay this is a great segue Our Guest is a very very busy person huh yeah because in addition to being a very sought-after actress she's also a very sought-after writer and producer oh really yeah she has written and produced Emmy nominated stuff she's produced and written big huge animated films like I don't know Toy Story of four Sean you know she's uh she's acted in uh and she's written a new series that she's got coming out uh her new series is called I think it's called Sunny yeah oh Sun the worst [ __ ] intro I've ever heard no because I'm take a little time to write something down when you because I'm trying to disguise who it is okay because as as soon as I say what what what you know her from you're going to know who it is because you know her really well because you know her also very well from things like the office and parks and wreck and Boston Public no it's Rashid rashita did you know you were coming on when I saw you last week two weeks ago I did oh I don't listen to your show so I didn't know it was a surprise I'm really glad I didn't say anything okay wow it's happened so many times I don't even know why we continue the whole structure of it yeah look at your headphones listen her she's got some real headphones on my dad's JBL really he rocks a pink headphone no this is it's like his design oh really what's it called it's JBL but it's like his it's like the Q to do some personal experience if you want to send some of those our way you know you got it by the way from my from my sister yeah go ahead from my sister Tracy your dad is Quincy Jones please continue okay okay please continue TR that's a that's a that's also if you're not a listener of the I heard about that I heard about that we referenced Tracy uh sort of a catchall for those less informed but has no shot at Tracy herself no she's a very just bright sharp wisconin she's representing the people yeah she's happy to do it Rashida welcome to smartless where are we finding you in this great Booth of yours thank you I'm in my um husband's like Studio that's what does husband do come on he's a musician he he has he has a radio show not a podcast a radio show oh but also a musician wait wait Jason do you not do you honestly not know who her uh husband is I I I don't I I'm I you know how old I am I I I barely know what day it is i' I've embarrassed myself hourly you're kidding on my kids's life I have no idea who her husband her husband Ezra is singer songwriter extraordinary have you ever heard of a band called Vampire Weekend oh no way yes I didn't know I didn't know that either we both met him oh that's right but but he didn't he didn't he didn't announce his job he didn't give you his bio no he didn't lead with that well it's like when people go come up to you and they go oh you're an actor what are you in and you're you want me to start Listen by the way still to this day I assume nobody knows who I am nobody knows what I'm people look at me funny and I'm like yeah I know I look like that guy you went to school with yeah right at this point really come on oh yeah absolutely well you know why because I spent so many years assuming everybody knew who I was and I had a very uncomfortable adjustment like I will never make that mistake again yeah every knows you're you're Justin baitman they know that's exactly right I get that once a day Justin bman a big fan not that big not that big that's Rashida so good to see you tell me what you're doing like like today and what's going on and I you know how much I love you I love you I love um what am I doing today this I'm doing this I'm I don't what am I doing today I'm like prepping for the summer mhm how does one prep for the summer cleaning the pool vegetables no just like packing tanning booth of course um just a lot of well I'm doing some press for the show oh yeah that will mention sunny I didn't write I'm in it I'm in it but I and I produc I thought you wrote it but you produce it and you produced it which is a really cool the premise is your character uh moves to Japan lives in Japan and her husband dies missing but they want to play Crash they're missing yeah and they the company sends his company sends you a new personal robot yes called in the future in the future it's in the future I had three call backs for that robot did you yeah they said you know what they said you know what the note was too robotic too robotic is I it up for you Willie I know um well wait hang on now Rashida you wrote yourself something that you puts you in Japan a little bit I didn't write it you guys let's be I didn't write it I produced it but yes I put myself in Japan yes I lived in ja great was that it was really great I know I've never great have you been before Japan is the best it's the best I had been there like three or four times for a couple weeks but I was there for six months wow wow well now Koto t uh Tokyo Osaka Kyoto and Tokyo we filmed in both yeah wow so do you have it do you have because I hear if you go over there you got to have it wired like it it's it's a it's a place you need to like like have a chaperon or like very good notes or tips or you can get lost there yeah you you can but even getting lost is fun there it doesn't really matter there's no bad version of it but yes I was like dialed in because I had like the most amazing PA and like people who really knew the cities and so like I just went to the best coolest restaurants Gardens temples on yeah so uh Rashida you know um I loved Silo so much I told you when I saw you and I was like um oh my God Rashid is in this show that I heard so much about that I love so much and then you died in the first [ __ ] episode that's spoiler that's how I do it I was like wait what did that bum you out cuz that every no that's why I took the job what you mean okay okay it it's fun it's fun to it's fun to make people like you and then die if you guys haven't seen Silo it's so good like James Dean damn dude no it's not even 11 guess how old hang second when he died by the way what oh not too soon by the way there's no [ __ ] way that will guess how old he was when he died 23 yeah was he that's so crazy isn't that amazing that he was never older than 23 like I I looked at him I always thought he was like you know like that's a man you know I just watched the giant with him and Rock Hudson and Liz Taylor Just giant giant just giant giant giant more hot takes giant Tracy it's just giant yeah how was that was that was that part of hey you know it's a great movie Gone With the Wind you guys seen that and nothing's really gone nothing leaves nothing I mean there's a fire but you know it's got legs fire yeah I know it was really long but it was good I didn't know it was based on uh Dallas was based on it the show Dallas was based on giant oh yeah anyway let's continue yeah James Dean I think this is one of his last movies or his last movie wait a second hang on a second this is like this here one man Reddit thread you're like a [ __ ] and you're like what am I doing why am I clicking but is that a known fact or is that a weird Reddit thing that that Dallas was based on no the guy's name is JR I mean his initials are Jr and giant he's an oil King and blah blah blah blah blah yeah you're sure 100% positive oh that's okay well and then what NS Landing was based on um I'd love it if Scotty just slid in on a rolling stool well that was based on Just For What It's Worth uh A Place in the Sun with Montgomery Cliff is an amazing movie all right sorry I just thought let's get to the guest will you have questions for your guest yeah yeah would you back off come your attitude is so [ __ ] go eat something for [ __ ] sake and then come back at me too much open problem Jason Jason pulled up a shirt last night I saw his abs at crazy apps really summer but not by choice just from diet no yeah well I'm playing sugar there's no sugar dairy there's no dinner there's no food there's no dinner sugar no dinner that's the key intermittent fasting that's what you do it's it's unintentional but it's it's uh yeah eating yeah that's it wow are you hungry all the time it's are you hungry and grumpy all the time no you get you get you get past it you just got you know you got to race to B get to sleep you got to get to bed you got to get to sleep he thinks it's discipline oh it is definitely discipline it's mental illness bro at this point people have different words for different things you know so wait so Rashida I want to talk to you a little bit about so your your experience everybody knows you from the office and from Parks and wreck and then and but everybody knew you as this actress and you were kind of working in comedy and TV and then you started you and I want to say that you and I don't know how long you knew will McCormack for but you guys teamed up you started writing and you just started writing all your own stuff like you kind of made this shift at a certain point was that like a conscious decision you're like I've always had all these ideas and I'm sick of doing other people's stuff I just want to do my own [ __ ] yeah I I always wanted to be a writer but I didn't feel like I was good enough or anointed to be that kind of person I think probably cuz like went to school with a lot of people who ended up writing for television har you go and they were all like in the Lampoon and they were like funny and and the the guys who were going to get the jobs and stuff so I never felt like that so I didn't feel worthy right like pursuing that and then a strike happened did you know sure did you know Mike sh at Harvard yeah Mike sh is the one who created Parks we met freshman year we did a play together freshman year called love sex in the IRS love sex in the wait it opened with us making out was he was he acting yeah how was he yeah funny I bet he's great yeah he was funny he was great yeah I bet he is yeah Mike sh yeah for Tracy Mike Shore uh started uh SNL and he was headwriter of Weekend Update and then he went to the office and then he went with Daniels and they they created parks and wck and then he went on to do Brooklyn 99 and the good place and tons of other stuff he's a brilliant writer and you guys have a long relationship I feel like I I kind of know sure through SN but also kind of through you because you guys were friends yeah since we were 18 W that's amazing we wrote a paper together in college by the way how stupid is that we convinced our teacher that we should write a paper together for the the class the Warren Court what is that about the Warren Commission about the about the Supreme Court Justice Warren aha wow I'd love to I'd love to read your paper it sounds hilarious it sounds really funny guys and we will be right back and now back to the show now wait so uh we get get me back to the writing part of it did did you what what what gave you kind of the fuel to like say well you know what maybe I can or maybe I should was it did it come from just getting more and more proud of your writing or were you reading more and more things that were not great that were getting produced and you were like uh I can do at least that I think it was that I think you just read so much when you're auditioning and even if you're not getting jobs you just see the kind of landscape of what people are writing and obviously there was good good stuff but I was kind of inspired by that moment in time that like the the peak jut appow where like all those dudes were just like just writing themselves you know and I thought I could at least do that right even if it's not as good or as funny I I could find some audience and I also had this feeling that like I nobody would ever cast me as a certain kind of thing and if I'm going to be if I'm going to get that part I probably have to write it for myself you know what it's so funny I I when I was living in Chicago I would watch um certain channels that no longer exist and on those channels were shows that no longer exist and they weren't really great and I was y really young and I was like if I I know I can be at least that bad like if that's all that's required there's got to be some job for me somewhere you know what I mean cuz that's not they're not fantastic right um anyway that I'm not I wasn't saying that about no I was I'm not saying that about but but you know what I mean like I saw the entire spectrum and I thought there's somewhere I can land and of course I had lofty dreams because I grew up on Jim Brooks and nor Efron and the those were the kinds of mov I wanted to be in and I wanted to write so and and I think having B and holding each other's hands through the process like we literally sat side side and wrote our first script together and I feel like that how did that relationship start how do you how did you guys um we were set up we were set up by his sister Mary McCormick you must best I did a movie in the 9s Indie movie with Mary and I was obsessed with her she was like the coolest funniest person i' ever met she was like you you should go with my brother he's you guys are soulmates and she's not wrong it didn't work out we did date for 3 weeks it didn't work out but he kind of is my like work soulmate you know we still work together so oh you guys so you guys still work together you and will yeah we produce and we write together that's awesome I love will he's such a good dude and and Mary is so amazing so you guys start so you guys kind of have this you realize you date but it's not working out but you realize that there is something else there on another maybe potentially even deeper level yeah creatively that you connect on and what was the first thing that you guys were like hey we need to write this like how did that happen we started writing oh it's so weird no we started writing a show in New York I mean we were just drunk there it's not even worth mentioning um the only thing we completed was Celeste and Jesse Forever was the first movie that we complet wrote to in its entirety and went out with did you got were you tempted to write about your relationship and how it kind of kind of yeah it kind of was that a little bit of it it was like an amalgam of the first kind of love that we had our own separate loves plus our dynamic as like a kind of somewhere in the middle of romantic and best friendship yeah um you just made me think of I'm sorry to bounce around uh one of my favorite movies is social network was there any your your participation in that and having gone to Harvard was there any did was any of that happening while you were while you were there at that time no bro no I'm old no so it was after you left really that was like 2004 we had we had the Facebook which was the Freshman Facebook yeah which is what the name is based on and so like you'd get to school and you'd have a everybody would pick their head shots you know like a yearbook yeah like a yearbook but but you you submit your picture yeah that's pretty well was it digital or was it a a hard copy hard copy digital we had we had ethernet my senior year there was no internet right yeah we're about the same age right no you're younger than we are I'm younger than you come on look at her Jason you're the oldest one here by far I know by far how old are you 55 look at his face wow hang you're 55 I've got some amazing yeah so some gray in my beard you it somewhere under that beard you do look great you look great just a lot of beard I'm but I see a hell of a back in I'm playing a loser so you know oh you are yeah in in oh in the movie the movie in real life my wife and I like role playing and so this month she's got me as a loser this month hey growing up around so much music I'm sure there's was there's constantly music in your house I'm sure right yeah a kid and were you were you ever inspired to do that like was your whole family like wait don't you want to come over here and do what we're doing we're playing we're playing instruments we're singing songs we're producing records I love it so much and I I kind of like sing for fun I I've written for fun and I've sung like I've sung backup on some albums and things like that yeah I sang backup on the first two maroon fives no way and I sang for them live yeah that's so cool that's so good wait can you read music can you write music I can write I I my reading is limited but my dad's a music IAL genius that's like the last thing I want to do is like try my hand at that you know but I love it like I have a deep ache for music and I just don't ever feel like I'm good enough to do it like I'll never be good enough to do it so again like I want to remind people like your dad produced Thriller yeah right so like that's so J I remember one time uh R going over to your your dad's house with you and being blown away going downstairs and seeing you know when you go into somebody's office guys and you see like the like a record right like a platinum record or whatever like some some whatever and you go into Quincy's house and and well it is a it's a museum and B the framed thing for Thriller has like 40 platinum records in the frame literally 40 you're like what the [ __ ] it's like the granddaddy of them all what about that documentary you did was just so awesome oh yes that was so so I was going to talk about so let's get to the documentary about your dad yeah I it's what a great thing to do for your for your I mean for your parent it's just like I don't know that was so well I was going to say so so I mean obviously we you know yeah like Jason say it's a great thing to do and to be able to do with your dad but but also like what was do you remember the moment where you're like how that the the the sort of the Genesis of that what was the moment I'm not going to take any credit I I my dad is so well documented yeah like he had it there was a doc series on BBC there was a documentary about about him in the ' 80s and I was with Jane Rosenthal M you know Jane yeah the great Jane Rosenthal who's a legend and she worked for my dad years ago like 30 years ago oh wow and she said to me you have to make you have to make a documentary about your dad and I was like oh [ __ ] I do I do don't I I didn't want to but she was right because the truth is he's so well documented he's so accomplished that it's almost impossible to spend any time storytelling about who he is as a person to cover so much ground with just what he's like like contributed to the world and culture I wanted to do something that felt like it captured his personality cuz nothing ever has and so that was kind of the goal and then Al Hicks who I love by the way have you if you've never seen he made a documentary called keep on keeping on which is about Clark Terry who's my dad who's my dad's Mentor oh wow horn player and his last mentee who was who this incredible jazz pianist he's blind Justin Coughlin it's like about their relationship it's like if you're ready to cry yeah that's what you turn on oh my God Water Works it's so keep on keeping on keep on keeping on so Hicks he directed that we met on my first day of filming in montro in Switzerland at the Jazz Festival I had like a 5D camera I was like trying to figure out what to do how to do it and we met that day and then I asked him to co-direct with me wow that's great yeah and I mean just the the act that so yeah all that archival footage that people have already seen about your dad no one's seen you just walking around with a camera in the house and talking to your dad that was like access it was just I just felt so privileged watching it was really really it felt it felt intimate and too intimate in fact cuz there's a whole scene where I mean he almost died while we were filming and we stopped filming and luckily my brother was like filming a bunch of stuff in the hospital like show my dad cuz he was went into diet itic coma and you know luckily the the conclusion of the story was such that we could put it in and felt like the real Triumph through that because my dad is a beast and he has cheated death many times 91 still crushing it wow so that's amazing yeah you know what what what what was fascinating to me watching that was seeing you in the document because you told you like you have to check out this documentary I ran home and watched it and there's my friend Rashida Jones and I'm watching rashita Jones interview her dad who's Quincy Jones and I had this weird thing we like wait they relay did which is a compliment because that's really nice I take that you've become you've made such a a world for yourself separate from his huge world and you've both become hugely successful that it was it was wild just to see wow that you both yeah well it's true Rashid and that was also something I wanted to get to which is like it's not not easy I can imagine I can only imagine how uh to and it's not not by anybody's fault or design that you have a dad who is larger than life who is who is you know like as you said a musical genius everybody knows he's created incredible things he's done amazing things and to grow up with that I I can only imagine there there's a lot there say to create your own thing and to have your own incredible success that's a real test to your talent I hope you recognize that yeah to have the courage to even try and then you nailed it and now people are like wait she has a famous dad you know it's like you you've already got your own thing it's Janet and Michael huh Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson I never think of them in the same family oh his oh his mother Janet no no but like Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson are in the same family but I when I see them I'm like I don't think of the other one it's not a great analogy also it's too close it's too close with Michael and stuff like all right sorry sorry no I mean we would cut it but we want to shame you so we're going to leave it in we might we might open the episode with it yeah yeah have you seen the Godfather just kidding know I heard you guys talking about that and we actually did we we watched it recently too we watched all three and great films great films I don't know if anybody knows but really great films and three great film I don't know I think we watched the edited version but I watched it because I like I hadn't seen it since I know Sophia so well well and like just seeing like baby Sophia that was her mie first on screen wasn't it you know what's crazy about three you guys it's about it's about cousin first cousins in love I know I I just started watching it and I and that's not the that's not the central conflict of the movie This is the key story well so you mentioned you mentioned Sophia kop so you made a film with sopia uh I want to say five four five years ago right on rocks yeah 2020 it well it came out during lockdown so yeah 2020 um sorry I don't know what you're talking about I BL blacked that part out of my completely we all have I don't know what you mean um so you and you right so you made this Film on the Rocks in 2020 with Sophia Copa and Bill Murray yeah and you got a lot of great reviews uh for that performance I mean everybody loved it and and I I'm did you know Sophia before or was that where guys kind of got to know each other we had met we had met I was in an act I was like an outof work actor in an acting class in New York and she came to the class to Workshop Lost in Translation what and so I played the like main part for a month wow with her no wait wait walk me through that that idea what is that so she work so I work with my acting coach Greta works a lot with Francis and Sophia and they do like DreamWork around you know yeah character character DreamWork and so she kind of came to explore and enrich like the characters in the film and so I was like assigned to the lead part to the Scarlet Johansson part and then you know I had to do like dream assignments and come in and like you know embarrass myself by acting out my dreams but it was really very cool like I got to play that part and work with Sophia for like a month I was like 27 or something 26 27 wow wow that's pretty cool that is cool also shot in Japan I didn't get the part but that's fine yeah didn't even audition so but you didn't get the part but you but you got to have a sort of a really intense working relationship with s you guys stayed together we're like we got to do something at some point that's the kind of vibe or I mean obviously I would have done any I would have done anything for her but we we stayed F over the years and then I shot we did she shot she directed A Calvin Klein underwear commercial that I was in and then and then she did this billmurray Christmas special for Netflix and we had a little scene in that and and she was like there's like a something happening here like this is like a good Dynamic and I think she got the ideas sort of from that scene we had together nice in that what was that like working working with Bill Murray know a lot of people uh I know I know I mean you know you don't really talk to many people that work with him I know you know they're as elusive as he is yeah yeah that is true also by the way never thought about that that's true we have we when we were doing that Workshop Sophia was trying to cast him and she had a a dedicated assistant who sat outside our rehearsals with a phone waiting for him to call back all day every day God it's amazing right cuz like by way she already had a relationship with him had a successful film with him and stuff but she still had to have that no no no that was for Lost in Translation that yes that was originally when I met her and we were working on that she had not cast him she was still courting him and you know he's he's like a Lochness Monster Story Goes Like You can only reach him via fact or something like that I know yeah I guess I don't I've never had that he's got a phone number that you can call and leave a message he had like a tollfree number or something for a while yeah yeah yeah I remember that yeah but he really is like he did a guest spot I had a show called Angie Tribeca yes and he did a guest spot and he called me and I booked his it he was like yeah I want to leave at 9 oh no way uh on Wednesday I was like okay that's are you serious she had blue yeah yeah that's funny no way yeah and is he just about as chill and sort of uh don't sweat the small stuff as he seems he's pretty great I mean he is extremely charismatic you know he's like and he's also what what I didn't really know I'd worked with him a couple times before but doing a whole movie with him like he's so he's so good he's so good I'm not saying anything you don't know but he's such a good actor and he's so he's so present and he still works hard as an actor you know he's not checked out right he could be checked out cuz he's like just his talent is is is you know undeniable but he's like he works hard he had like a lot of big mey monologues in that movie where he would talk about like biology evolutionary biology and the nature of men and women and like it was a lot he had to he had to run down some serious theories and he was like fully committed you know love to have him on this show ask questions for an hour aw did you wait first of all why don't you wait down in the hall by the way exactly not not good enough wow Jes already thinking about the next guest already thinking about Bill Murray yeah we'll be right back all right back to the show all right so let's switch gears all of a sudden now you find yourself in with the gang over at Pixar right the the crew the crew the Pixar crew the Pixar crew they approach you and they go Rashida we want you to come in here and start mixing it up on the Toy Story Bonanza how'd that go down I mean this is I love these Toy Story movies I love Pixar movies so much yeah I do too yeah me too and it was yeah I was on Parks and you know they have really kind of cool development where every you know they're their development people they're casting people they watch indie films like that's how they get their ideas you know like I had had some friends who' written Indie movies who' written there and we went and screened SL and Jesse Forever and then we got a call to meet on a project all very very Under Wraps you know like they have to keep everything really and we went and met and we got the job and so I went to sure and I was like listen I love you I love the show I want to be here but I got a job it's at Pixar I have to move to the Bay Area and like I but I need your blessing you know and he was like he's the greatest he's the best boss ever cuz he let everybody do everything they wanted to do while we were doing that show I mean Chris Pratt they like filmed in London so Pratt could do the Marvel the first Marvel movie he did he just wanted everybody to be like the best version of themselves so he was like yeah you have how long did you how long did you live in the Bay Area to do that I live there 2 years wow and and you had to live there while you were writing it because the process is so sort of collaborative and back and forth It's collaborative it's iterative you're you're rewriting a script every three weeks it is not a wga job I'll just say that you know like you're and you're working with the story artists and they sort of writing within their the way that they you know draw changes the story and then you have to like change the script to fit the sequences they've yeah one of the greatest documentaries I've ever seen is the Pixar story yeah they sit down and show that to you on your first day there yeah they should it's so fascinating yeah see that um and uh I did Monsters University that little movie and so we went up there too and that and the whole facility is the coolest like everybody's just playing ping pong and walking around like yeah it's like colge there's a vibe there it's like college yeah there's like they're so good at ping pong up there so good at ping that's the one thing I love about Pixar is how good at pingpong I did one movie I did this Ratatouille it's not a big deal in the day with Brad Bird with Brad Bird who cares that's a good movie that's a very you played that great you Creed that that great big huge dude right the no he's the German suf so good yeah yeah fun movie with Brad Bird is such a that guy's a genius but aming it feels nice they send me a nice coffee table book every Christmas oh they do yeah just about just different subjects each each year just stuff you know from every from your friends at Pi boats it's very nice I really appreciate it um got a lot of coffee tables I drink a lot of coffee okay guys you and Jason both grew up in the valley did you ever run into each other have you known each other or no you always pass each other you don't remember do you I want to know I want to hear this I don't remember I definitely we've crossed paths uhoh oh uh oh Jason no no no no no there's no there's no raw stories there's no raw stories I just remember like seeing you around and like you were cute all my friends liked you um I just feel like there's there's so much crossover 80s Valley yeah but like where in the like was this before we were driving were we were we at like K parties no cuz you were driving when I was like 12 yeah or 11 but I feel like there was like um like I'm trying to think of the 80s parties 80s clubs well sure like uh peanuts rock it sounds like you didn't see each other that's what sound well I wasn't remembering a lot back then but wait wait let's go back to it flippers and peanuts yeah flippers was a roller skating uh place where flippers uh is now the CVS on the corner of lasa and Santa Monica and you still go there it was like a Studio 54 but roller skates but maybe not Studio happening and then there there was a big Club where the Beverly Center is right now called Odyssey wasn't it I think that was Odyssey yes uh Roxberry though that was a spot and um um and then above the Roxy on the rocks that was a big Whiskey Bar the bottom of the sunset Marquee was big banging yes me too um yeah it was good times soy I do remember things but just not her did you go to high school like did you go or did you go to high school in this is a great question is I I did not I did not get imagine imagine a okay rashita imagine a school bus no no that was that was the back of it has a bunch of massage tables the massage bus right derina he doesn't know about Mass Massage bus school yeah yeah it was it was called heartlight um it was an experimental school just one year exactly and I also grew up with Amanda yeah yeah Amanda oh J Amanda schol yeah yeah we all go back yeah um where did the acting bug come from uh was there what age well your mom obviously your mom my mom was an actress yeah was an actress she encouraging the great Peggy lion yeah yes the great Peggy Lipton she yes she was encouraging I was like my rebellion was like I'm not doing this Hollywood bullsh I'm not I'm not doing surround by it and yeah I wanted to be a lawyer I wanted to be taken seriously I wanted to be legitimate you would have been a great lawyer by the way no off for real you would have been what kind of lawyer I wanted to litigate like I want it to be like you know Spencer Tracy in Inherit the Wind you know like I wanted to like argue the case in court yeah but you could do that with uh with a lot of different kinds of law can't you yeah yeah but there's no particular law that really interests you like uh environmental law or criminal law or I probably would want to have been like yeah like a I would have been like a da something you know mhm um rashido with all of your success already have you sort of like slow down your dreaming like do you even allow yourself to like where where would you love to see yourself in 5 10 15 20 years is it is it more on the writing side the acting side um like just like Harmony just with your family like or do your goals move as often as as is like mine do and do you just you sell on anything yeah that no I I don't know I'm in a real like maybe you guys can tell tell me cuz you're a tiny bit older than me I'm having that moment right now where I'm like I don't know anything I don't know anything better and by the way you can do it all cuz you're already doing it all I don't know am I we also I just started I just started therapy uh this is true I'm going to get real for a second and I [ __ ] don't know anything I this is the most scared I've been in my life yeah is right now that's good I guess that's good though will wait why cuz it's really scary I'm doing like I can't even believe I'm talking about this I had heavy therapy this morning and I I can't believe it it's scaring because you're like you're like admitting that like you might not know as much as you're pretending to know yeah that's that's the tip of it yeah yeah yeah and and I do think there is something there is something at this moment there's something sort of like regenerative and I'm sure it's coming for you you will like right now you're you're sort of like resetting which is incredibly scary but most people I talk to who are 50 just turned 50 have this thing where they're like who am I there's like this full rebirth what who who do I want to be for the next 50 years if we're lucky what is my back half look like what's actually fulfilling what does my ego want do I need to fulfill my ego do I need to fulfill a deeper Soul Purpose like so much is coming I talk about all that [ __ ] in my therapy I talk about all that stuff yeah so good I'm excited for you this is really exciting I wouldn't be scared I would embrace it like embrace the fear of but the fear's good because that's we're all scared I had to like I I had to I had to put eye drops in just to so that my eyes were white because I just was like in it was rough well I know I had a really rough morning anyway it it's been it's been a tough cple weeks but good for you for doing that work because you could just like Slide by and you could probably be okay and live in denial for the rest of your life and the fact that you're going deep right now means you're going to rebuild and be like the best for yourself your by the way the best part is I told polar yesterday and she's like oh I'm so glad I'm like what do you mean you're so glad what she's like 20 years too [Laughter] late oh my God yeah we're all here talking about laughing about it on a podcast I know but it is so weird you're right I think at this stage of your life you've done stuff like you've had like the this huge first couple chapters of your life and you have the work stuff and you have the adolesence and then the work stuff then the kids stuff and then the work with kids stuff and blah blah blah and you get to this point you're like okay now what right and also that's all that stuff that you thought for your entire life was going to fill the Gap you're like wait it doesn't quite fill that Gap there's still a little piece list missing and what is that piece like and we're we're privileged enough to have succeeded in a away but I think for everybody they're like wait a second it's just going to be this forever like all the firsts are most of the firstes wow I talk about all that Marita in my therapy but but to your point Jason like I think everybody here including me I want to do I want to not to be overly Earnest but I want to be able to create from a from like a real Source from a feeling of connection so I'm like I'm taking a little breath to figure out what that actually is and what that looks like and what I want to say because you know I don't know I'm not going to I don't want to just put [ __ ] out and also it's hard to put [ __ ] out now but you know all right so wait so R so then first of all everything you're saying is like so well said that's like so succinct and to the point and I love it what is the best advice somebody's given you to get over what we're all talking about or to not get over it but to kind of deal with it yeah manage it well the like the thing I always go back to is my my dad says make decisions based on love and not fear which sounds so platitudinal but it's really not like when you think about it well like you know what you were just saying like I have often looked at my life and thought let me just do this thing that I know is the kind of safe way to do it or let me do this thing that's going to make people love me and because I'm afraid of not being loved as opposed to like really really loving something and believing in something and not caring woring about the result yeah yeah well I realized that I have all these trick what I what I've come to sort of realized anyway in the last couple weeks that I I have a lot of these tricks that I can do that help me get over things and get by and I can kind of and I can get to a place of okay and I can kind of put the things back on on track but but but there's a there are patterns there and and I'm like nothing's ever going to really change unless I actually look at it that's true I think looking at it acknowledging it and then I would say my greatest gift is like just continuing to develop my inner life like something that has that is not connected to anybody else creating almost like a little house inside whether it's meditation or breath whatever it is nature that's self-sufficient and it's not reliant on external uh approval gratification uh yeah yeah anyway anyway have you seen Goonies I haven't seen Goonies in a while really good movie welcome back to Sean's hot takes hot hot takes instead of hot cakes triple hot um uh well Rashida um you are real sweet to give us an hour of your day so fun guys is that an hour wow that's an hour yeah they're Breezy it's a it's a breezy little stop here so we were just getting into the meat of it too right deep I know we just started to get you want take another bite will no I don't I don't should we talk about therapy some more really really really don't I can't believe we talked about it at all love this is it's great to be vulnerable yeah we always talk about that [ __ ] good good good good uh rashita we love you I love you guys this is so fun thank you for thank you for doing this and talking to me watch sunny sunny watch Sunny now Sunny now sunny is it that spelled with an o or a u s u n n y it's in it's on Apple TV plus yes Apple TV plus Sunny starting the incomparable rashita Jones rashita Jones rash congratulations on that yeah congratulations on everything so much love to your family and uh continue success you're great thank you guys love you thanks Rita bye guys bye see you soon oh well Willie that's now that's it's almost your kind of uh halflife right isn't she's best friends with Amy yeah I mean I've spent I've spent a lot of time with sha Rashid over the years we've like a lot of time we've vacationed together many times we've just done uh she and I actually went well not we I sorted together to Mike sh's wedding I mean what's what's what do you call her for short sheta sheta yeah sheta Sheed shidy shs Jones Jonesy Rashida Jones and me RJ ever RJ RJ would be good RJ's good you're obsessed you're obsessed with the initials Jay I do like I call you Jay yeah yeah she's lovely she's so grounded she's so she well she's so smart and funny and like just razor sharp and has always been and yeah I I always like spending time with rashita Jones and easy on the eyes EAS on the eyes easy on the eyes um but she's grown up in such a in such a uh a potentially privileged isolated um environment yet does not seem that all hard to not very very down to earth you wouldn't if you didn't know that her dad was Quincy Jones and that she' grown up in Hollywood if you met her in a coffee shop in Kansas City you'd be like oh she's just a somebody from any Town USA yeah and who is just a smart you know awesome person um but she has no there's no um she's not spoiled to that way no yeah really great um but at the end there I like that we got real real about it and uh I like talk about that stuff and I'm glad you're you're doing that well that's really great and I love when Jason asked if when you know we weren't done if you wanted to take another by out of the meat smart last Smart Glass smartless 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