Michigan Wolverines: Joel Klatt and Brady Quinn discuss the two-quarterback system | Joel Klatt Show

so without further Ado the man the myth the legend himself Brady Quinn joins the show Brady what's going on my man how are you I'm doing great I mean I finally got on the juel clat show some people call it jks uh I'm just it was the week after Josh P I really thought I would be able to get on the show before Josh P uh those of you that don't know uh Brady threw some shade out on social media he was just like what to him and Matt like what do we got to do to get an invite and so you got the pity invite the next week congratulations and and I took it so that's how pathetic I am for those for those of you that don't realize this I've actually worked with Josh Pate I know Josh well uh great dude uh we see him on the road in fact we might be seeing him this week I think Jo I mean I would assume anyone that travels to games is coming to this game you you'd hope so if they're not I mean I'm not really sure what you're doing in college football so I agree I agree Brady and I are gonna be in an arbor for the Michigan Texas game uh before we get to that and I do want to to talk about that in particular kind of this this Michigan possible two quarterback system that we saw against Fresno State in in week one I have to get your thoughts though on your boys I mean I was high on Notre Dame in the preseason I know you were as well but there was some cautious optimism in particular with the youthful offensive line that performance in College Station I thought was was maybe not remarkable but man it was impressive what they did what what were your thoughts on that win I would just describe uh that win as the culmination of what has occurred over the past three years for Marcus Freeman and his staff and so I I'll I'll start with Marcus if you have looked at the past couple of years you really saw the growth in this game as far as how the fourth quarter played out and I think it it speaks volumes to um how the game started his emotion how he led the team on the field a lot of those clips are going viral yeah and and how he's constructed his staff and really everyone I'm including the strength coach as well but you know the the Bedrock of this team and he's a defensive minded coach former defensive player so you kind of figured that's usually where his bread and butter is going to be and that's what he's done by getting a guy in Al golden who they extended this off season made making sure they retained him but he applies this scheme that plays to the Personnel they put so much pressure on opposing quarterbacks with the different coverage looks Blitz looks pressure looks fronts and things that they do and they're able to do that because they've got Ben more out there they've got xav wat they've got Christian Gray so uh it's a combination of to me what Marcus has been able to do with his staff coupled with his recruiting and building it off the foundation you knows on defense yeah and the surprising part would be on the offensive side because I agree with you that defense and and I think that we would probably say we both expected the defense to play really well wouldn't you agree yeah yeah I said I said A&M was going to score nine points you know they ended up what 13 so right around there but the surprising part probably was on the offensive side you agree yes and for a number of reasons but I guess not so much in this sense is Notre Dame's got an identity now on offense like if i s you right now what is Notre Dame GNA recruit GNA develop you're gonna pump off into the NFL you probably say offensive line tied end running back right now is that fair I it's totally fair and that's it in in that order I would say well maybe o line first but got tight end o line line of scrimmage and then running back and that's exactly what they featured in the second half and in particular in the fourth quarter and I think you know for some people who there's always be criticism right you're the not not in quarterback there's going to be national attention there's going to be criticism and I think there was some concern like hey we all know Riley Leonard's a good athlete he's a dual threat athlete but like what's he gonna be like the passing game I'm G take people back remember he missed the spring game this was the first really true live action like in a stadium in an environment like that with this team in this offense with this group so whatever your you know preconceived notions were or your after game thoughts of the passing game is Just pump the breaks like this is week one like I I dare you like talk to me after week two talk to me after week three it's only gonna get better from here I mean you have a number of transfers too and Bo Collins who came from Clemson Chris Mitchell uh from South Florida or excuse me FIU but you know from the south Florida area um you have a bunch of people who are added into this offense that he's still developing chemistry with because of the the injury he was coming off of through the spring and mind you the offensive line you know as we kind of touched on how youthful that group is and going up against that front so um they leaned heavily on their identity and I thought the best thing was the way uh Marcus managed the game and I think the way you know Mike Den Brock who had been there before by the way and really made it a kind of a perfect fit put together a game plan to allow Riley Leonard to make a big third down throw for a first down and then kind of push and isolate Bo Collins to give him an opportunity to make a big play along with the big running play so um those are the two things I think when you look at the staff of what he's constructed the last thing I'll say is this did you see the shot of Conor wigman throwing up during the game yes as he's walking and you can tell he's trying not to and then it's just like yeah so you know this because you know you're from Colorado but Notre Dame hired Lauren landow who's arguably one of the best strength conditioning coaches I think I've ever been around I mean I was around him at the Denver Broncos even back before he was coaching for the Denver Broncos I I was with him in draft prep like before he was with the Broncos so so he trained me he trained a lot of the Denver Bronco guys for a long time he's really good he he's he's better than really good again I'd put him up against like Mickey Madi who I had back was college now was at Ohio State but but the general point is this when it came down to it the fourth quarter it it wasn't Notre Dame who looked like the team that couldn't handle the heat humidity and everything else in that environment down in Texas it was Texas ANM who didn't look they in shape who got leaned on and and eventually ended up getting worn on and so again that's a credit to llando but going back to the initial point it's a credit to Marcus Freeman and the job he's done of constructing all of this this entire ecosystem this program of Notre Dame to be able to display the growth that he's had as a head coach but the programs had over his tenure so far so I don't want to make too much of one game but I thought it was a pretty defining moment for him in particular well listen I'm going to make a lot of that game because there's not a lot of tough ones left and so that's why that game was so important and and obviously it behooves them if A&M goes on and and has some success in in the SEC it actually behooves Notre Dame that USC played well against LSU and got a win in week one because now with Florida State falling off the face of the Earth you know at least they've got kind of this bookend of quality opponents at the beginning of the Season hopefully in in and M and then at the end of the season in USC Brady of all the teams in week one Miami looked good all these teams looked great you know you could say Georgia yeah pencil them in no no no the team that could easily of anybody pencil themselves into the 12 team playoff is Notre Dame you start thinking about that schedule taking care of your own business I I just don't see them losing more than one game I don't see it I don't either I said before the season even back when we thought Texas NM and Florida State and the challenges those would be and obviously they got past M but even looking at Florida State right now which is just seems like a mess um I still felt like the floor was 11- one with this team I felt like they've got one of the best defenses in the country their offense with Mike Den Brock back and the way he could scheme things up to get the ball to The Playmakers and Riley Leonard who's a veteran capable enough of handling all of this I really felt confident in their ability to at minimum go 11 And1 if not 12-0 that's how the schedule sets up so the next step for them is to not get tripped up by the Georgia Tech the the Louisville we you know probably both ranked by the time they play them I think Georgia Tech ranked in the AT AP Pole now um and have those games where they stumble kind of like they did last year versus Louisville and and almost getting beat by Duke um that's the next step is is now being able to be the hunted and being able to handle that as they move forward and maintaining that number five spot because as you said it this thing sets up very easily for Notre D to be hosting a a first round playoff game uh I I can't wait to see what that environment's going to be like there's there's no doubt and and I was I was speaking of this early in the earlier in the show before you came on uh in terms of Nebraska this idea that when you're building a program and Marcus Freeman wasn't building a program but and this goes all the way back to to Bobby Bowen used to talk about you know with a program you got to lose big before you lose small you're going to lose small before you win small you win small before you win big maybe that's the maturation we've seen over the last couple of years that winning small last year is going to turn into winning big at least that's what Irish fans will hope for let's move on to our game huge huge game in an arbor as Michigan takes on Texas it is a threeh hour edition of big noon kickoff that's right thre hour edition so 9 a.m. eastern the lovely and talented Brady Quinn is going to be gracing your televisions on Fox and you got to be there because it's going to be a really cool show it's going to be a huge show as we prep for that game now big noon kickoff will be there the guys will be there Charles Woodson will be there we've got a lot of stuff going on and then we get to the game and Brady I'm I'm watching the film of each of these teams Texas knows exactly who they are they know exactly what they want to do and how they want to attack and then there's Michigan and you watch that offensive game tape and you're like okay they are still in absolute figure it out mode and that starts with the quarterbacks they go with Davis Warren you know the the former walk-on which by the way don't disparage because got us hang with my Walk-Ons and then Alex orgy sparingly by the way only two snaps in the first half it's not even like they had a real two quarterback system but they were parsing him in there at times what do you think we're going to see from Michigan offensively I I wonder if Michigan was holding some stuff back and and the only reason I say that is I'll never forget and this happens to a fault at times by the way it happened to be my sophomore year we were playing BYU in Provo to open the season week two was against Michigan and they were going to be I believe a top 10 ranked team at that point in time maybe even top five and our entire training camp towards the end we had prepared for Michigan then we get out the Provo they're running a 335 defense it was tough for our offensive line to adjust tough for me to adjust you see the field a lot differently in that case end up losing stumble now we come back to beat Michigan the next week but we we had kind of prepared and held some stuff back in preparation for that game thinking we could get by and we didn't so that could be sometimes a cautionary tale and I think that's one of the reasons why when I went back and watched I thought this is kind of vanilla maybe there's some things too that they didn't want to show that they're going to introduce next week and seeing how Texas adjusts to it um so that was my first thought going back watching the tape uh the other thought was you know that this whole two quarterback system I personally have never been a fan of it for this reason is you're making all 10 players adjust everyone else has to adjust besides the quarterback for whoever it is when you're trying to run two you either have a guy in there who's in Davis Warren's case probably gonna run more of a conventional offense uh from the pocket Etc if Alex orig going in it's probably more rund down Etc but everyone else has to adjust to their Cadence their leadership all those intangibles their pocket presence you know the timing with the football how they're holding on to the type of styles of plays you're running the different football they're throwing too if you're a receiver receiver a pass catcher so I've never been a fan of it from that standpoint is interjecting that into your team and then in the locker room standpoint is you and I both know college football and really football in general there's two people that everyone looks to when adversity strikes it's the head coach and the quarterback when you got two you're naturally creating potential fractions within your locker room when that adversity does strike and there's not that one voice you know it's funny like we never say that with coaches diversity strikes like the coach has to St him say something and if he doesn't right they're going to can him and they're going to put someone else in there who will right and but but for some reason with quarterbacks we try to make it seem like oh this can work it'll be copasetic so um I I just I've never been a fan of it I think you have to kind of pick your Lane and go with it and if it's not Davis sworen if it doesn't work out then you go to Alex if if it is Alex go with that if it doesn't work out go to Davis sworen but I've always been a big believer and like put the guy out there that you feel like gives you on every single play throughout the game the best chance to win and and we'll see if that happens this week and the fascinating part for me is going into watching the film you know I'm sitting there and I'm preparing for this two quarterback system in my head you know I'm like okay let's let's watch these guys play and you know orgy plays nine snaps total and two in the first half and I was like oh wait wait wait this is just a limited package of plays that this guy comes in and runs very similar IL by the way to the team that we saw in week one and a guy that actually got more than that you know in BO prula for Penn State he came in and and did a little bit now he played more at the end in and kind of mop up duty but I do Wonder in the back of my head if if you can get away with this if you're if you're internally saying to yourself Davis Warren is our starter but we have this other guy that has to get on the field and they play two very different roles within the system now your point about everyone else adjusting all all the other players the 10 on the field is is an excellent point and that's why yes I'm with you I'm not ultimately a fan partly because I'm a quarterback and most of us are narcissists and so we just want to be on the field anyways right like I know you're laughing a little bit but like you just want like I don't take me off the field true because it's true yeah I'm with it you know and so there's there's obviously a a little bit of that going on when I watch that film here's here's what I'll say when Davis Warren is the quarterback it reminds me so much of the early Harbaugh teams that Michigan had 2015 2016 there's no there's not a lot of dynamic play on the field but it's serviceable and they wear you down kind of eventually and and you saw that there was a lot of mistakes early in the game then they put together a drive late in the game and end up pulling away I just don't know if a team can beat Texas playing that way that's what remains to be seen because I think Texas is an elite team okay so I think I think Texas is but this will be the game that helps me truly believe that they are because I think this game comes down to two things for me we know we know what Michigan's identity is and the challenge and really what this game's all about is Chiron Moore is taking over now for Jim Harbaugh and it's the question of can he continue to run this program the way Jim Harbaugh did where your identity is defense and on offense you're going to run the football and you're going to grind them down and you're going to dominate the line of scrimmage because that's really what's at play here the only problem with that is if you look at the past two years and and so tired of hearing the Conor stallion stuff and that's why Michigan had success so we don't need to go into that but and one of the reasons why I hate it is because it discredits JJ McCarthy that's right when when JJ McCarthy was called upon he stepped up and made a play and that's what we're going to find out about this Michigan team because if Chiron Moore wants to run a system very similar and and run this program just like Harbaugh did that he's gonna have to have a quarterback the way they look to be playing right now one of these two is gonna have to step up and be that guy when called upon he's got to deliver that that throw on third down and he's G have to deliver that throw in a two-minute drive and that big play to make something happen or take off with his legs make something happen that that's the reality of what won Michigan the national championship last year in second of the playoff two years ago it was the that those plays by JJ McCarthy to me combined with what they had offensively up front and running the football and that defense so that's really what I'm curious to see if Michigan is going to be able to find and execute and then on the flip side for me it's about Texas's defense in particular their two defensive tackles yes who are now gone to the NFL because you know Michigan's sitting there saying we know what you want to do we're just going to make sure we're going we're going to test out and see how good the interior of your defense is and if you can stop the the power the counter all the different schemes that we're going to throw your way in the Run game without tandre sweat without Brion Murphy and and and obviously no disrespect to you know Texas's opponent last week it's just it's gonna be a different challenge this week when you see Michigan on the field in a real live game scenario and you have to have those run fits on point and the Personnel to do it and they don't have those game records I don't believe now in the interior of their defense so that's what this game's all about in my opinion we're g to find out um to your point like is Texas part of that Elite conversation of teams we're seeing right now and and tell you what's fascinating to me is that last year Texas was able to get away with playing in the VIN and this is the last thing I'll say and then and Brady will we'll let you go and I appreciate you being on man I really do Texas wants at least their coordinator Pete kakowski is his history is he wants to be an open middle of the field coverage guy he wants to have two safeties back and the the he doesn't want to give up the big play a few years ago it burned him because teams like Oklahoma State could just run the football line on him and they ended up beating Texas now last year he could do that because he had great defensive tackles so you can play two safeties back when you've got great defensive tackles and and without those guys can you really stop the Michigan Run game with two safeties back because it's against his nature to drop down now he will I'm not saying that he won't but I'm just saying like that he wants to keep them back and if you watch the Fresno State game there was not a snap of football that Fresno State at least that I can remember didn't have run ratios or at least a guy creeping down at least looking at the Run ratios in order to be the unblocked player in the defensive run front I'm sure there's a snap here or there where they played Too Deep but certainly not something that they were trying to sit in that to me becomes the game if Texas can sit there and stop the run then it's going to be lights out for Michigan but if they've got to drop their safety and get out of what they want to do then it becomes a a much bigger question because that's when Colston Loveland could get one-on-one coverage and and Michigan can potentially throw the ball a little bit that's what I'll be looking him for it's interesting that you say that because I always feel like Pete Kowski going back to his days of with Wason right I thought he played more post High safety then because the quarterbacks that they had they had the Kevin Kings uh of the world of people like that who they could isolate on islands and be able to put that extra Defender down in the box but different time different team different personnel and I think to your point you know you hear about you know everyone Gap Integrity well Gap and a half is what you can play when you have a tandre s a Byron Murphy where those guys could cheat and I think one of the things that I'll look to see if Pete Kowski does is not that Michigan's gonna try to spread you out oftentimes but when orie's in sometimes you might not you know you might be surprised if they do try to spread him out to get him a lighter box to run the football but if they cheat uh if they're cheating you know whether it's out in the slot with that nickel defender or however they go about cheating with one of the SA ities to be able to have him essentially responsible for a gap even though he's still trying to play back you know for more depth because they're not concerned about the passing game of Michigan I mean right now no one scares you outside of Courtland Loveland on that Michigan offense as far as creating a big play and so I again that's another thing is like this is a great opportunity for Michigan and for one of those guys to emerge otherwise to your point it it could be a long day like Texas uh could be able to put up some big plays some big numbers versus this Michigan team thank you for watching the class Show YouTube channel and if you like this clip make sure to like it and subscribe to the channel and you can stay up toate on all of my college football coverage