See how Vance defends Trump's vulgar post about Harris and Clinton

Vice President Harris, in her interview with CNN last night, said she would put a Republican in the cabinet. Do you and Donald Trump commit to putting a Democrat in the in the cabinet if you're elected? Yeah, of course, John. And we've got Democrats who are actively on the team. Tulsi Gabbard, who ran against Kamala Harris in the 2020 Democrat primary, RFK Jr. These guys have all come on board the or the Donald Trump ticket. And why have they done that, John? Because our party is the party of common sense. We don't agree on everything. We may disagree about tax policy or environmental policy, but we think we should have a close border. We think American families should be able to afford housing and food, and we want calm and peace all over the world, not the world in constant conflict that Kamala Harris is delivered. So we've got a great big ticket with Democrats, Republicans and independents on the Donald Trump team, and we're going to keep on running that way, and then we're going to govern that way. When we when you cited Robert Kennedy Jr, what role could you see him playing in a Trump administration? What cabinet position? Well, I don't want to commit Bobby to anything. But look, he's a very, very smart guy. He's got a lot of interesting ideas about why do we have an obesity epidemic in our country, what is going on with our food system? How can we better ensure that Americans are living healthy lives? So I hope that Bobby plays some role in answering some of the big questions. And we'll see what that looks like. Of course, he's joining the transition team where I serve as the honorary chair. We're going to work with everybody. Again, we don't have to agree on every issue, John, but what I love about President Trump's campaign is that we're talking to everybody. We're going everywhere, and we're trying to persuade the American people that we can win with this big tent party, and we can govern effectively. Would you trust Robert Kennedy on issues around vaccines? Could you see him involved with health policy that way? Well, look again, John, I don't agree with Robert Kennedy. I don't agree with Bobby on everything. I've gotten to know him. I think he's a very smart guy. But but again, while I might not agree with him on everything about vaccines, I do agree with him that something is clearly messed up about our food system because we have a terrible obesity problem, and I certainly agree with him back in 2020 that we should not be masking toddlers and keeping young children out of schools. He was right about that. While a lot of public health experts were wrong. And this is my point, John, is you don't have to agree with everybody. But when you're willing to listen to big voices and you're not trying to censor people, but you're trying to have a debate with people, I think it surfaces. The best policy it allows is that allows the best ideas to rise to the top. So Vice President Harris, in the interview last night said she'd like to see a culture shift not based on you beating people down, a politics where you beat people down, but a politics where you lift people up. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about the idea of lifting people up in politics? Look, I think it's a great idea, John. The problem is that Kamala Harris hasn't governed like that during her three and a half years as vice president. If she wants to tackle the affordability crisis, if she wants to lift people up and inspire this country, why hasn't she done it for the last three and a half years? I think most Americans think that we're on the wrong track. I think what Donald Trump really believes is the way to lift people up is to open the country to all voices, to not try to censor people that you disagree with, to have a conversation with somebody rather than try to shut them up. We have to remember back in 2019, Kamala Harris wanted to kick Donald Trump off of all social media. We believe in debating and having a conversation with our fellow Americans. Agree or disagree? That's how you lift this country up. Not by shutting people down, making life unaffordable for their families. You talking about Donald Trump's social media? Would you describe his posts over the last 48 hours as lifting people up, voting, reposting QAnon statements, reposting these misogynistic memes about Vice President Harris and Hillary Clinton. That's the kind of open discussion that you think is lifting people up. Oh, John, I think if you look at Donald Trump's full campaign appearances and yes, his social media appearances, what you see is two things a guy with an agenda to lower prices and bring back American prosperity, and a political candidate who isn't stodgy, who likes to have some fun and likes to tell some jokes. I'd much rather have a candidate who's willing to go off script, who's willing to give every interview and is willing to tell some jokes. I do think that's how you lift people up. A politics of boring scolds telling people they can't laugh. That is not lifting Americans up. That's how to tear us down. All right, fun and jokes. Last night, after CNN released a small clip of the Harris interview, you on Twitter posted a clip from a miss teen USA beauty pageant from 2007, Caitlyn Upton. And you wrote, I have gotten a hold of the full Kamala Harris CNN interview. Now, this thing that surfaced around the internet for a few years, she had, you know, she struggled answering a question back in this beauty pageant. I'm not sure you're aware. In 2015, Caitlyn Upton did an interview in New York Magazine about all the social media attention in this clip. God. And she said, I definitely went through a period where I was very, very depressed, but I never let anybody see that stuff except for people I could trust. I had some very dark moments where I thought about committing suicide. So when you posted this last night, were you aware that the woman you were posting a picture of had contemplated committing suicide for the attention it received? No, certainly not, John. And my heart goes out to her and I hope that she's doing well. Look, I've said a lot of things on camera. I've said a lot of stupid things on camera. Sometimes when you're in the public eye, you make mistakes. And again, I think the best way to deal with it is to laugh at ourselves, laugh at this stuff, and try to have some fun in politics. I posted a meme from 20 years ago, and I think the fact that we're talking about that, instead of the fact that American families can't afford groceries or health care, young families can't afford to buy a home to raise their families in. Those are the real crises that we should focus on. And there's nothing that says that we can't tell some jokes along the way. While we deal with the very serious business of bringing back our public policy, politics has gotten way too lame, John. Way too boring. You can have some fun while making a good argument to the American people about how you're going to improve their lives. Okay, I just want to be clear, though. You say you did know. Would you like to apologize to Caitlin up here for posting that last night? Given what you've now learned? John, I'm not going to apologize for posting a joke, but I wish the best for Caitlin. I hope that she's doing well. And again, what I'd say is one bad moment shouldn't define anybody. And the best way to deal with this stuff is to laugh at ourselves. last night, Vice President Harris was asked about the Middle East and the situation in Israel. She said that she supports Israel's right to defend itself, but she also talked about a two state solution there. How do you feel about the future possibilities for a two state solution? Well, first of all, John, I have to step back here because, you know, Kamala's interview, she said a bunch of things about what she would do. She is the sitting vice president of the United States. If she wants to tackle the affordability crisis or close down the southern border, she should be doing it now. And I think it takes a lot of shame. shamelessness, I should say, to be able to stare at the American people's eyes and say, I'm going to fix your problems now, when I've already been in power for three and a half years. And this Israel issue, John, is a great example of it. She says, on the one hand, she wants to empower Israel to defend itself, while on the other hand minimizing civilian casualties. Her government has limited the supply of precision weapons to Israel that would allow them to cut down on civilian casualties and end this war as rapidly as possible. Donald Trump's view is very simple we want peace in the world. We want Israel to destroy Hamas, and we want this war to be over with as soon as possible, because that's how you rebuild the Middle Eastern peace process. You don't do it by making it easier for Israelis to kill civilians and harder to minimize civilian casualties, which is what Kamala Harris has been doing. Senator JD Vance, we appreciate your time. We appreciate you sticking with through it, with us, through the technical issues. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks, Shazia.