Truth or Drink with Mark Estes

we're here with Mark Estus you know that you're the only person I've had on the podcast more than once besides Justin who's like basically co-host you're the only other person are you honored I'm glad you got to talk to your microphone yeah I'm pumped about that babe Mark's not used to podcast you guys um so that's why we're going to play Truth or drink this whole world has been very new for him so I'm forcing him to be here and play and have some fun yeah that's not my strong too that's for sure but you're going to be great okay so I asked asked my Instagram followers to submit questions both for me to ask Mark and Mark to ask me and every question that I have is from my followers you as well yes I didn't look from your followers yeah from my followers I didn't look at the questions you're going to be asking me in fact I just right before this gave him my phone and I was like here you can scroll through them so I have no idea what's coming my way we have four tequila shots in front of us and if we need more we will get more yeah here we go are you ready I don't think so okay since you're the guest you can go first okay I need to pull mine up should we start off pretty hot or pretty did I let's I start strong I say we took one tequila shot in preparation and I haven't drank since greased so I'm going to be hammered if I have to take these shots all right we're going to start off pretty hot talking to your microphone B we're going to start off pretty hot okay have you ever faked an orgasm with me uh no I don't think I've ever faked an orgasm in my entire life really I don't need to me either you haven't faked one no shocking okay now it's my turn okay okay let's see um what have I drank and I didn't answer it pretty UPS I think you would know though wouldn't you I mean maybe yeah I think you would could probably tell um okay ready mhm what did you really think about me sliding into your DMs like what really went through your head um talking to your microphone my first impression kind of well like cuz you've we've talked about this like what did you really think I was doing Oh I thought you kind of just like messing around wait hold on a second it says when I slid into your DMs but that's not what happened yeah you did you slid into my first hold on a second this whole time I've been like yeah I want to talk about that okay how about answer it like you initially slit into mine but then I really kept the conversation going yeah you for sure kept it going okay so what did you think about that I thought you were just playing out first you you said the other day you thought I was bored yeah that you're bored and just playing yeah I just thought you were just yeah bored I guess is a good good word to say just like needing something to do someone to flirt with so you like didn't take it seriously no not really not at first that's why I wasn't really I got nothing for you I didn't really give it much much time I got like nothing from you I know I thought you were playing well I just thought you were really hot and then I was like this is fun okay I think the other question was um how much did you really think about me before you slid into my DMs quite a bit honestly like I did you know it be in back my head for sure oh a and then you started commenting on my Tik toks and I was like yeah yeah but you first lit into my DMs I know but I mean I didn't really expect to much back from it you you didn't think I was even going to respond I don't know I honestly had no idea that's so funny cuz I remember I didn't do it on mine oh yeah yeah were you drunk when you did I probably had a couple talking your microphone yeah I had a couple courage oh here we are like almost a year later that was in October that you slid into my DMs was it really yeah that's actually crazy that is I know okay your turn I feel like we're going to answer all these questions I know I'm going to give you guys a little Laguna Beach thing cuz I thought they might like that you know okay yeah there's a lot of questions about it okay can I say names or no cuz I don't even know I don't know the names yeah yeah yeah I don't really know what this means [Music] but but your your people might like it did you and Lauren Conrad hate each other as much as a producers made it out to be on Laguna Beach I love that you don't even understand this question no no idea so I feel like I've talked about this maybe not on this podcast though um no I think what happens is we never cared for each other but now I feel like you could care less about this answer but like we never cared for each other and then you have producers getting in your ear and essentially creating a much bigger Feud than there ever was and you know I think as kids these producers without you know lack of better word manipulate you and that's that's what happened and then as soon as the show was over and we saw each other we we had a lot of fun together being in La when there were no cameras around so a lot of another question a lot of people wanted to know is if you've ever seen lagona Beach or the hills no I've never watched an episode of it I know I deleted that one too I don't think I can I wouldn't I don't think I would want you to I don't think I would yeah I I don't I don't want you to I'm not going great well that question is for you guys that's actually so funny though it's funny because I feel like if you were on a show back in the day like I would definitely go and watch it you would I think so yeah I think I would but you know you're a different breed okay you ready mhm did you ever consider not dating me due to age and children no I'm just kidding kid um honestly no I don't think that was like it obviously crossed my mind yeah but I don't think I was ever like no it's like that was never like a deciding factor so I thought I'd just get into it and just see what happens yeah I don't think I ever was did you know how old I was no I didn't know your exact age well what did you think I have no idea like in your 30s okay so you knew I was older well obviously cuz of but and you knew had Mom I don't know how many or anything like that though you just knew I was a mom yeah I knew you were a mom interesting you didn't do like a little Google search I saw Mama in your bio and said let's go that's so I think I did a Google search later on like after we started talking yeah not at first though I told you I think how when was that so you initially slid into the DMS in October and it was like went nowhere I was like oh I want to put get you guys on my podcast and I like got your email and had my assistant reach out that was that and then me Justin and Scoot were in New York ah I don't remember was November or December do you remember no but I feel like it was a couple months later because I totally like forgot about it okay I think it was December and um I mean honestly I had gone on a date in New York and it was and I was just like [ __ ] this so we were all like was like you should DM mark But do but he was like DM Mark's personal account not the Montana boys remember then I did and then and then from there um was when well then I started initiating all the time you DM my personal one that the first time I Y because I said to you I don't know who looks at the Montana boy account so that's why I'm dming you here oh but I then did a Google search on you and there's was nothing on you at the time really I saw like one interview you did for football cuz I just wanted to hear you talk that's like by the way girls you have to listen to a guy talk you can't just look at his photos that's how you really know if he's good-looking or not and I did I saw a little interview I was like oh he's so cute I know exactly when you're talking about too you do yeah I had my hands behind my back like that I see I don't even remember that yeah I love a good Google search okay guys let's talk about neutr if you follow me on Instagram or you listen to this podcast 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maybe like a month before or something I was like we were talking about when you were moving to Nashville and I was like well I'm going to be out with a bunch of girls February 9th if you guys wanted to come and you were like oh we're actually supposed to move in on the 10th so we could make that happen so um I was really excited I was a little nervous just because I didn't know what to expect you're nervous about it I was a little nervous I also there was a little period where I didn't know your age actually either I thought you could be anywhere from 22 to 24 and I was like please God please God let him be 24 and I think I figured out that night that you were but whatever and then so so the girls and I were there you guys were late you were yeah you were probably like 30 minutes late so I was like [ __ ] this guy then you showed up you Caleb and cutter and like initially it was just like I felt like we had all been longtime friends right like there was no it pretty easy going there was no weirdness it was just fun from the get-go you and I have a picture from like within the first 10 minutes of us being together cuz Caleb was like let me get a picture of you guys and we just um and I'm like on you like I've known you forever we were late because you know when you first walk in there there's that bar to the right yeah we went we went into there I saw you I know I saw you guys you did oh I saw the whole thing uhhuh yeah we went in there for and and took a bunch of shots before no you didn't you guys took shots yeah I still remember that I saw you guys pretty sure they're Jagger bombs oh my God [ __ ] Jagger bombs I saw you guys walk in and go up to that bar and then I was like I'm just going to see how this plays out and then I and then you guys like walked down and found us oh no not the top bar oh the bar when you first walk into the oh like the other yeah on the other side oh I was there before too actually that's funny oh that's probably why we're late you guys were just ripping shots cuz you were nervous yeah we're just getting in the zone we didn't know what to expect either you know yeah what did you think um oh but here I'll finish answering though so I I thought you guys were really nice you were really sweet you you you were good-looking and it was just we had such a fun night I would say like that night was just really really fun and I felt like we just hit it off immediately yeah I would agree yeah so it's a dislike oh that you were late I [ __ ] hate tarting N I didn't realize there was like a set time though we had I thought yes I was like we're meeting at our whatever n yeah I just assumed you guys were meeting not like us no we met earlier I gave you a later time the girls had our little girl time and then and then you guys were invited I thought we just come from 7 to 9ish rude I know although you're not nor normally late although sometimes I feel like I'm waiting on you for what like just getting ready where were we I was like if you knew we were leaving at this time why don't you start getting ready earlier that's cuz you're in the bathroom getting ready you can get in there with me you'll fog up your mirror then I have a whole another problem to deal with then I'd be yelling at you to get out yeah wait what was your first impression that may have also been one of my questions um my first impression of you MH was that you were really really really hot to be honest like when you walked I still remember when you walked up to me in that little skirt and you like gave me a hug I was like wow she's hot you like almost immediately were like you're like really beautiful and I was like that was my first impression oh sweet like damn she's hot oh that's sweet okay this was actually the number one question that I got how do your parents feel about you dating an older woman with kids oh I mean you've bet them both or no I haven't met Dad no you met my stepdad and my mom but my dad's same way I mean they honestly don't like they weren't questioning or whatever you know they they have trust in me I guess yeah I mean I asked you that pretty quickly I was like what does your mom think about this they're pretty easy going though you've met them it's no they're I mean your parents are great I hav't I do want to meet your dad but um I can see it though from that like I remember people saying to me being like you know you're a mom like could you imagine if one of your boys was dating someone 13 years younger but I don't know I just yeah my mom doesn't buy or read into that kind of stuff you know I don't think I would really care either no no she doesn't at all no your mom is so great um all right should we just take a shot just for shits and gigs yeah I do it CU I don't think I think we're all going to answer these questions okay here's what I do actually with a shot you ready all right you show me okay you've definitely seen me do it so you get your tiul shot but then instead of doing the lime after I squeeze the slim into the tequila shot babe I don't know if I'm going to do that you don't have to you've seen me do this though I'll always take it normal and then I also use a chaser and you know what we have is Chasers we're drinking electrolytes as Chasers element I do asks for them all the time on the podcast and they're not paying me to say that but that's what we're drinking they're my favorite all right cheers to answering all the goddamn questions by the way it's Friday night this is my weekend without my kids oh my God it's 444 you're big into signs big into signs but it's Friday night so this was appropriately planned that like we were going to play this game the the weekend I don't have my kids well this is water you're drink your water Shots by the way every other time I've done truth or drink and I hate to admit this to you guys don't admit it every other time I've maybe taken one tequila shot and the rest are water shots every time that's funny cuz I actually saw a clip of that like right when we first started talking and I was you was you and Justin yeah and I was like I wonder if they're actually drinking or not oh wait like you when we first started talking you saw that clip so they were all water shots but Justin and I took one real tequila shot I think when we first started it just to like same thing like get loose and then the rest of them were because the thing with those is like we filmed that at like 1:00 in the afternoon I'm like I can't get I can't get drunk right now and then like carry on with my day no you're busy I'm busy you're busy I got to go do something else yeah you do yeah I've um and like Stephen and I when we did the back to the beach podcast we did truth or drink in my kitchen they were all water shots sorry uh oh I know but these are all really tequila these are because it's Friday night and I planned this appropriately okay I don't even know whose turn it is anymore I'll go you go at what point in your relationship did you realize you were in love with him yeah in love with me um I had this question too um yeah I was asked a lot yeah that was a that was a big one so and we've talked about this um things moved really quickly with us and we had gone on I think like three dates and then we went to Mexico together for the uncommon James shoot right yep and we were there for four or five days maybe it's five days together and I think it was like like towards the end of that trip where I was like this uh like I feel differently about you and we actually said it on that trip yeah we did yeah I said it on the bus to you yeah you did and then you ran away and I was like get back now I like get your ass back in right now you can't say that and run away I actually love that that was a fun that was a fun trip yeah it was fun that was really fun um so I mean quickly very quickly yeah it was quick I like I think I kind of knew well I've said this to you too i' I've never like had feelings for somebody through the internet you know like of course I've thought people were hot but I've never been like the [ __ ] why does this guy like keep coming back and then I met you and I liked you but we were also drinking that night and it was like kind of just a fun crazy night it was just fun but then we went on our first date a few days later and you came and picked me up and then the day before Valentine's Day yeah cuz I wouldn't go out with you on Valentine's Day I was setting boundaries from the get is that what that was well that was just like yeah I mean like yeah cuz I told my K my kids were my Valentine's and I was taking them to dinner oh that's right so I wasn't going to be like hey sorry guys I just met a guy and now you guys are getting the boot they probably could you imagine they would probably not like you then if that was the case you know probably not no yeah so it was an easy transition with them okay my turn okay this is a serious question are you ready oh great if I couldn't have any more kids is that a deal breaker for you um I mean we've had this conversation Yeah by ourselves a lot yeah oh yeah that's a tough one I mean obviously I would like to have my own kid at the end of the day but I think we're just I mean we decided we're just going to you know keep on keep it on keep it on and just see what happens I don't think we need to make any serious decisions or anything like that right now yeah cuz that's when you start getting in your own head start messing things up yeah and having cop-outs you know yeah yeah we've decided to table all those kinds of conversations and just be together yeah cuz I mean it feels we've been dating for 6 and a half months but it feels a lot longer yeah it does so I mean those questions are obviously on us a lot quicker than a normal relationship MH yeah well and like that's the one thing for me where I feel the age where it's like I would actually have to figure that out relatively soon right you know so like you've got all the time in the world you don't know that why do you think well just I mean like you could have kids in 15 years you know like women can't do that and so although I don't know I feel like I feel like I could I don't think any big decisions going to be made anytime soon yeah yeah period out of story yeah did I ask that yeah yeah okay have you Kristen ever gone through my phone no I haven't I have actually never even thought about it I've never even had an opportunity though either to be but I wouldn't I think going through someone's phone is setting your yourself up for failure because everything is taken out of context I don't know who every girl in your phone is it could be your mom's friend and I'm like I see Janet and I'm like who's Janet like it just you know what I mean it's always I just think I also think if you're searching through someone's phone there's a bigger trust issue obviously yeah there's obviously something else that came up and that's why you're doing it yeah I've had no I've never even been inclined it's never even crossed my mind to go through your phone well you can if you want I don't want to give me your Instagram password no I'm just kidding um okay um that was a pretty random question wasn't it it was are you ready for this one mhm are more mature women better in [Laughter] bed um so you guys are asking if she's better and bad correct yeah a little young yeah really I mean yeah you're the best yeah like the best sex I've ever had for sure a why I like that oh okay I actually didn't know that you've never said that to me I just thought you would assume that well we've talked about how great our Sexes but you've never like Point Blank just been like you're the best I've ever had really I don't know I mean I think I would remember that one yeah maybe yeah a that makes me happy that was another question let me ask that back okay that was asked a bunch are young men better for no not necessarily that but am I the the exact question is I am I the best sex you've ever had yeah yeah you are and I think it's a lot of things I think for women um I think sex for women just gets better as you get older because I think women when you're in your early 20s and stuff you're like so uh you're like insecure in a lot of ways you're like worried about your body or like what I look like or we're like I've let all of that go and I think I'm more present physically during sex than I've ever been I'm also so wildly attracted to you and I think we just have like really hot sex yeah and I think also being like cuz I'm so like obviously so in love with you so that helps I think like having sex with someone you're in love with a lot yeah is way better it's way it's yeah it doesn't even compare M yeah how you take a [Laughter] shot no I'm G to be drunk if I do okay did anything turn you off about dating a woman with three kids kind of already asked that but yeah um no I mean like I said I never really like it was in the back yeah it was in the back of my 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you were cool remember you and Caleb came and picked up him and his little buddy and took him to lunch do you oh yeah yeah to the mall yeah I forgot about that that was like that was before me was that before Mexico that was early on that was early on that was really early on yeah I thought that was really sweet yeah it was a fun little trip little boy trip what did you guys talk about you don't want to know it's so funny yeah no it's been I would say it's been a really easy transition though yeah definitely has been yeah your turn oh right yeah I think so I can't keep track what's your secret fantasy my god I've told you mhm I don't think I can say that on a podcast yeah I don't know I don't know if I will you have to drink then that's the first drink godamn it yes I win I'm want to be drunk [ __ ] you got me you want to know the if I didn't have kids I would answer it but yeah me it's like also both of our moms listen to my podcast like our moms don't need to know my kids don't need to ever hear about any of this so [ __ ] you I just want a little little wi there yeah good night this isweet that's how goofy it is I got to do my little concoction here damn you got me I don't know if I have any that I'm going to get you on it's not fair okay cheers do you want me to go with you yeah oh what see what a nice guy what a nice guy these slimes are cut perfect oh who cut those Mark I don't know remember when I called you Montana thank God that face is over on here yeah yeah or maybe you didn't even I had a weird interaction the other day in a gas station about that what do you mean one of your people were saying what she said she came up and was like I'm from Canada she already had an accent so it's hard to understand and she's like I thought she said her name was Montana oh God but she was referring to me as Montana and I was like what is going on here I'm so sorry then I'm like oh you're so you're saying your name is Montana she's like no that's what Kristen called you I'm like oh yeah oh sorry about that well she clearly she's not a frequent listener cuz that's gone for a long she was really nice too that's Canadian all your people are nice though they are are they really are they Justin and I were just talking about that oh my God oh my God I hate tequila now yeah that one was a little stronger than I thought oh [ __ ] Mark just got a haircut and he it looks you look so good you do I'm a hat guy though I know but you look really good without a hat and the people need to know that they need to know yeah they always tripping me that we hat I know they need to see it which I don't know why that's so weird I wear hats some people just wear hats a lot no it's not like I grew up we and I've always weared hats my whole life no I know it's actually not cuz people just love to [ __ ] about random [ __ ] people just want something to complain about it like gives them something to do or I'm like hiding something yeah they think I'm like hiding something yeah think you're bald it's like no I'm actually not hiding something that's just what you actually like hair well your mullet your cute little mullet cut is cut for a hat you've said yeah it is what's your favorite and least favorite thing about me my favorite thing is I would have to say is that you guys probably don't know this but she's a lover girl at heart you are but I feel like people don't think that cuz you're so you're so confident and you know you're Christen you know but you are a lover girl yeah I am I love that you love love I think I do love love you do don't you yeah that you're a lover girl that's sweet yeah I am but only with like my main main people right because I've got walls up it takes a lot for you to get past them but once you're pass them like you're in there's like five people there that's what I love uh what I dislike yeah when we're texting and you say haha really yeah cuz you think I'm just like not interested no I mean not that I'm not interest not that you're not interested but I don't know oh my God I had no idea but you just started doing it like in the past month I had no idea that's why I've been responding back and I copy you go ha I I [ __ ] cuz you I'll say something you be like haha and I'm like Kristen why are you saying that like okay I didn't know that that that haha is a go-to I know it is for I with everybody well which I see what you're say that's probably why you hate it cuz you say to everybody it's like a generic like like I don't want exactly like I'm not even paying attention and that's like what yeah people say oh okay I get that honestly it's like when I'm well I actually hate texting you're the only person that I will text consistently with throughout the day yeah same but I don't I don't like doing that cuz I know but you could just be like leave me alone no just wait 15 minutes when you're not busy and say something I know I know cuz I'd rather have that than saying haha I know okay so honestly what I would nor what I do with everybody else is I wait to respond until I have a second but with you I don't want to make you wait obviously for like hours so you're so nice you're welcome thanks babe thank you yeah I know keep saying okay instead of a no I I totally get what you're saying I that would also probably piss me off too well it doesn't piss me off but like I I laugh at it like I think it's funny that's why I say it back it's not like I actually like I'm pissed about it I know I know I know okay let's get to no my grandma says that all the time haha I know I know I know I know oh like all the time really yeah I've never seen you do that I know I know I know I love your grandma um okay well I will stop hahaing you no you can keep doing it well no no I'm never going to give you a it's not like I dislike it but again uh is it my turn or your turn oh no I asked you that okay I'll do another one for you guys you guys did ask a lot about Laguna Beach I love they threw those on you I know all right who was your least favorite cast member in lagona Beach you might have to drink on that one [ __ ] no I'll answer that but please the weeklys just don't make a headline out of it because I really don't want to deal with that [ __ ] it was low but hold on as I say that let me think about at the time I don't think it was low at the time it would have been Lauren but um low is probably my least favorite person JLo JLo JLo the fact that you don't know who any of these people are is actually the cutest most amazing thing ever all right um please like the US weeklys of the world don't don't make something out of that because it's really going to piss me off this is my safe spot this is my safe place this podcast okay what have any of your ex-girlfriends said about us dating I mean I haven't talked to him since we've been dating you have yeah what or yeah or you've like caught wind of them saying something nothing no yeah I feel like you should just drink for that I think that was a setup actually no I mean I feel like your people have your back I know that was a setup I think but no like I I right I guess they're going to be like you're a fat like what are they going to say no yeah I mean none of my ex-boyfriends upset anything either I don't wellit you have to drink with me if I am oh my go I'm actually going to be drunk but okay no it's fine then you don't have to really why do I have to drink though I answered I don't know you did answer so you don't have to actually I was just trying to talk with you well it worked okay your turn have people but like okay have girl F like friends that are girls giving you [ __ ] I've had people give me [ __ ] they're supportive everybody like like a girl that's in my life that talking to your microphone I mean like the girls that are like in my life that are not never been anything sexual or nothing just friends from college or high school or whatever I mean they've all been supportive like fans of It kind of you know like excited um like well because they just care about you yeah I I've had not many but I've had like a couple guy friends which is so funny like he was like oh you're dating a 24-year-old and like you're one to talk you date like 19y olds and you're older than me just throwing that out there like it's always those guys it's like what yeah I mean I don't have those I don't have like that relationship so you know yeah why did you decide to date me why did I decide to date you so I I've said this on the podcast before but I I wasn't like I'm going to date him like that didn't even um that wasn't my goal I think when we started talk well okay I've said it before but I'll say it again I first saw you on Tik Tok and I thought you were the hottest guy I've ever seen and then months later you you dm'd me and that for me was so crazy because you're like this random guy in Montana who I never thought would ever cross my path and then you dm'd me I love you you and it was like what the [ __ ] is happening like that's a crazy coincidence right and so then I was like this is weird and then and then well but okay fine and then I was like I want to have you guys on my podcast whatever then when my assistant was like they're moving to Nashville I was like what I was like this is so crazy I know what are the odds of that that's where we pick cuz we cuz we picked like there's three big spots we want to move to which were Scottdale Scottdale it was Austin for somewhere in Texas but we were leaning towards Austin and uh Nashville so when when my oldest assistant was like they're moving to Nashville I was like this is so weird so okay but honestly and I've said this before too I was like perfect it'll be a great [ __ ] buddy oh that was impossible for me to find and then I met you and then no you can listen No and then I mean really and then we went on our first real date and it was like oh no I like this guy thanks you're welcome I appreciate that a lot so but I I wasn't I didn't like seek you out and was like I'm going to date this guy it just it naturally happened and uh yeah I wasn't like robbing the [ __ ] cradle people okay wasn't on purpose I hate that term I do too actually I don't know how I used it I apologize I'm sorry there you go babe um are you intimidated by myself success no I think I'm more like like I'm curious about it you know in what way like it's it's all just so fascinating to me and like everything happened so soon especially with me and honestly the other Montana boys we got thrown into it so quick that it's like just like fascinating you know it's like I'm curious about it and you know you tell me everything so I love that yeah yeah yeah I've never gotten that vibe from you at all all at all and I like I think I've said this too but I think it takes a really confident guy to come into my life between kids like what I have in my life like I just think it takes someone who's really comfortable in their skin to come into this world and you've done a phenomenal job of it like the media aspect of it the kids yeah I don't need a guy like there's a lot of factors which for a lot of men a lot of men can't handle that and you've stepped up to the plate in a way I guess I mean I stepping up to the plate just well but like you've just that's just how I am though I'm not like yeah I mean like something like that would never yeah nothing like that would ever intimidate me like personally but I could see I could definitely see where it would for an insecure guy it's because you're confident yeah you're and confidence is quiet I don't even like that term actually now that I just said quiet confidence confidence is quiet the insecurity is loud with people you know like people guys especially girls too but who are uh they're because they're overcompensating so they're really ostentatious and they're like you know just talking up all their things because they're actually insecure does that make sense am I drunk I think so but no I'm just kidding you're not you're not drunk off too I think everybody has insecurities obviously of course but that's definitely not one of my insecurities I think just like in general though you are a confident person right and I do and age is not a thing I really don't even think about it but I do think for being 24 you're very I'm almost 25 though how about when we met you're like I'm 24 and oh see I did ask you the night we met I was like how old are you I was like please don't be 22 you're like I'm 24 and a half I was like I'm not good at math but not math is not Ma I needed every every decimal I know have you ever been in love before me um I think yeah I mean obviously we've had this conversation but I don't think I was ever in love now because obviously I'm in love with you and this is a way way different feeling and so I think back then I was just kind of in love with the with the idea I was in love with the idea and more like like I L the the person I was dating you know as a friend though like as a friend right I I love the person yeah but like I'm not like as a partner like I wasn't in love with the partner yeah no I mean that makes sense M that very sweet and thank you for being honest and let's be honest it's your turn was that funny I'm sorry to those ex-girlfriends if you're listening that's not my fault I don't have many so is there anything you hope I learn or change uh God is there anything that I hope that you learn or change um you can drink I mean I don't you're like hurry up no I'm I mean I really I'm like actually thinking about this no I mean I don't actually have an answer for that because there's nothing that I'm like I wish you would do this it's more of well hold on I'm trying to yeah that's a hard question your microphone that's a hard question you might want toink I wish you would talk in your microphone I wish you would learn how to speak into your microphone no I no because okay I'm trying to think of like like day-to-day stuff and we don't live together like you come into my house and so and we've had this conversation too I don't like I think until we got a house together there are just Natural Things We like you're an outsider coming into my house and my kid's house and like yeah so I don't expect you to like do [ __ ] around the house unless I ask you not even like it's like and I'm not saying I have [ __ ] around the house I'm like Mark [ __ ] do this I actually have nothing but but I think like when you come to my house you are a guest in the house and you can't just like it's almost like you're visiting some like if you were to like go and stay with someone you know you're like staying with someone you're like a guest in the house you and instead of you being like staying with me for like 4 days at a time let's say and you're being like I'm going to go to the gym because the G your gym is 45 minutes away like you live in Nashville and I live in Franklin Tennessee like you're staying with me for an extended period of time so it's almost like I feel like I have to entertain you in a lot of ways when you're staying with me for multiple days does that make sense instead of us just like living our normal lives like we would do if we actually live together does what I'm saying make sense I mean you have to ask them it took me a minute to get there but I feel like I landed on it you'll pass those guys they'll let they'll trust me they'll let us know um yeah I get you're saying but like if we if we lived in a house together the dayto day would be like I'm going to go to the grocery store you're going to work out I'm going to what I don't even know what the [ __ ] I'm going to do a podcast and you're going to like you know what I'm saying M we're like when you stay with and you got little gigs for me though when you have little gigs for me I make you do [ __ ] also you do [ __ ] without me even asking like my barn door that's falling apart you would and fix that and I didn't even [ __ ] notice how did I even notice remember when you fixed the door yeah and I subbed the [ __ ] out of my toes I know and then you said something I was like wait you fixed the bar door I like five cuts on every single one of my toes you're accident prone very have you always been like that yeah I'm always you're like Jackson yeah I'm always bleeding yeah I mean since I've known you you're like [ __ ] slicing and dicing every limb like what's going on always got something going on but um and like this weekend because I don't have my kids it's different where it's like and it's the weekend like my Monday through Friday is busy as [ __ ] I'm working and like constantly doing [ __ ] so if you come and stay like a Wednesday to a Friday let's just say I do feel like that Thursday day I have to like entertain you not entertain you but like I need to be present you know what I mean instead of doing all the [ __ ] that I normally do am I making any sense no I got it you I mean talking to your microphone is said I got it you're you're you got to explain to them that I don't know I don't know I get it you don't explain to me I get it I because we had this conversation I get it girl I can't host a podcast after two shots of tequila by the way you have to take over that ain't going to be pretty I think you could do it no all right ask a question it's not my forte or did you ask me that I asked you that is there anything you hope I learn or change right right right so but I don't even know what I don't think I answered it no you didn't I didn't answer it no the answer is no oh my God okay this is a good question are you ready you have to drink if you didn't answer it I think I did in a roundabout way okay um I didn't I'm you just give me the I didn't answer that I can't have another shot I'll die all right how do you navigate a relationship in the public eye where there are so many opinions and it's new for you I mean yeah it's new definitely new to me but obviously you were you helped me out a lot obviously you know that well I mean I don't I think I did but I don't know I mean yeah you were you know you pretty much navigated it cuz I mean was new to me so I didn't really know but opinions and backlash and stuff I mean I've always been I've always just been kind of like I've never paid attention to that never in my life you've been so good about it not yeah it's just like a I don't know it's just like you just get I don't know like being an athlete and being whatever whatever you look like you know you're just always no matter what you know since fourth grade you're being like oh he he'll never do this he'll never do that so I mean I'm used to it right you've had judgment your whole life basically corre yeah that's a good way to say it oh that's interesting I've never thought about it like that but that completely makes sense I mean I relate to that but I you know but yeah I definitely was shocked that all the stuff that I got but I mean yeah you've done such a good job of handling it though I think I sometimes forget like cuz it's been my world since I was 17 you know and so and I I tried to warn you yeah I didn't but it's like I can but I also don't want to be like what's about to happen is wild like I can only say so much cuz part of me is always like you were warning me too a little bit I was trying but but there's will always and I hope honestly till the day I die there's always a part of me that tries to downplay it cuz there's also a part of me that like also doesn't ever think it's going to be as big as it is and um it it was big and people still have opin opinions about it and you've done such a good job of like not letting that get to you cuz for a lot of people it's really hard to have criticism thrown at you constantly I I it affects me sometimes too I mean it just does I mean yeah sometimes it affects me but like it never gets to me to a point where I'm like oh this is brutal you know yeah but I mean yeah I mean I've been impressed with how you've handled it all thanks babe you're welcome I appreciate that you're welcome which tattoo of Mind do you wish you could remove but I kind of love this question um okay don't hate me for this I'm not going to hate you for it don't be mad at me I won't your Brotherhood tattoo not because of what it stands for at all the placement of it really yeah because I'm like if your like your arm sleeve and your leg sleeve and I even like over here I think is so hot but that's like a boner killer like if we could just like move it over that's so Random like if you were just cuz you know how like one side of you is like clean mhm and if your chest was clean I mean we could remove it and put it somewhere else no I don't know no we're not going to do that but the meaning of it I love I I do and so but I mean you know this is let's be honest we're being honest that's the last one I was expecting you to say what were you expecting probably the one the random one down there oh I don't even I mean I don't even notice it really I mean I've see it from time to time cuz I look at I'm like why the hell I guess okay yeah but like like the image of you in my head is shortless right and so like that's like your eye is just drawn to that one that one I see like when we're hooking up but I'm not I'm not like you should get that removed when we're hooking up what tattoo do you hate up we're hooking up we're when we hook up what we're making love there you go do you hate any of my little any bitty tattoos no I love all your little little tattoos even the star on my foot I think that one's funny yeah exactly looks like a triangle but it's cute um okay oh well okay I've got two more do you ever feel the age Gap um no I don't think I ever like it's not something that down the line happens I think if I would ever were to feel it was at first there's nothing that you're like I mean the first thing was that I mean that you're older than me obviously and that you had kids I mean that was the first thing ever so you noticed it immediately because of like my schedule because of the kids right so like immediately I got through that and so now it's like there's not like another little thing no there's nothing I mean I'm sure there might be I might sometimes be like oh I've never done that before okay well yeah but I can't think of it like like experience yeah but nothing like super deep no nothing that's like you're like oh I really feel it right right yeah that makes sense okay your turn what's something I like that you pretend you're interested in um that's a funny question I mean obviously I'm not like I love fishing but like I like what you like I'm not pretending to be interested in setting up deer cams or you know what I mean like I think I think I said this to you at one point if you like it I like it because you do right like there's nothing that I'm like you like and actually what you're into I love in a man like you're an outdoorsy guy you hunt you fish like all those things I love for men so there's nothing that I roll my eyes at I mean honestly yeah I like that it's fun to have a little partner doing little random things yeah we're going to go set up deer cams at my new house tomorrow okay this is the last question I did this sort of chronologically what are your end goals with me all listener question questioners listener questions by the way what are my end goals with you yeah end goal obviously would to be married and to have a happy life have a baby you can say it I mean that's in there yeah you can say it I mean it's in there yeah I feel like that goes with being married and whatever you know yeah okay Mark I appreciate did we talk about anything good yeah we did this has been I think I think every episode is great that I'm like that's fantastic no I think this was great I think we both said way more more than we've ever said right this is also the longest episode I've ever done honestly um okay this is going to take us out it's Friday we're going to end up on Broadway watch oh my God oh my God I hate it so much all right you guys you know I love you thank you so much for listening I don't know what next week's episode is but we'll figure it out I'll see you guys then bye