DG LIVE: TRUMP vs KAMALA Presidential Debate

e e you know I logged on to here and uh before I turned this live it said like 95 people waiting this is GNA be good this is gonna be nice 95 people waiting for me to go live guys it starts at 9 o'clock this is a pregame show this is a pregame game show an hour long starts uh 9 Eastern 6 Pacific ABC streaming everywhere everyone can stream it what's up guys what is going on the feel the just the grand finale tonight I mean the Sun is setting right now this is this is amazing the the energy the the ener this is the biggest debate we've seen I mean may I mean you could argue the Trump Biden was big but this is a huge debate again ABC yeah but you know what you know what I'll say about ABC the moderate I mean look at this we've got reports emerging Camala Harris begged the Trump team prior to the debate at least four or six or excuse me five or six times to call and turn the microphones on this is going to get me trending on Twitter this is great is there any chance Trump wins New Hampshire and Virginia uh I think there's a small chance it's hard it's hard to say man they don't there's not a lot of polls that come out of those states that but in general I would say there's a small chance I'm going to try not to drink too much tonight just saw him get off the plane Trump yeah I saw camalo was graded by a bunch of trump supporters bunch of trump people I am going to be testing the sound so just to make sure just to make sure the sound is good good evening yes this should be good spectacular it should be good ducks for Trump dude remember that video oh my God this is the most funny thing well this this girl is crazy I mean this is I'm not even going to play this right now oh this is funny the president is racing Harris is a fat B I'm speaking and I'm a woman [Applause] speaking I am [Music] [Applause] speaking I mean I mean that that was her plan that was her plan she was just going to say I'm speaking I'm speaking I'm speaking I'm speak and that's why she wanted the the the mics unmuted but I also think it was also to make Trump look worse [Laughter] oh not this not not this what in the hell is this the chairman tweets protect our ducks and kittens in Ohio because he goes some down goes down what in the hell is this the chairman treats it's just du in Ohio what in the hell is this the chairman tweets protect fake K oh man I know she did that's another thing if people don't know she asked for a smaller Podium because Trump if they had the same size he would seem so much bigger the scale the scale would embarrass her cuz she's so much smaller than Trump so they do like Optics I thought they didn't care about that stuff but they do care that the fact the fact that Trump's like 63 6'4 I mean people tell me's 6'4 the ratings are going to be wild oh absolutely no dude this is totally fake it it's like pathetic in Ohio because he goes some down goes down some crazy rabbit hole is debunked that aliens are but why do they like why do they just make up stuff now they've said like all they say now is oh it's a lie that the Haitian migrants are eating Ducks no that that's what they've been doing I mean that that's that's happened even before I was hearing people do do that like cult it's a cultural thing people do that but then they're like oh it's a lie because we don't like it so it's so it's a lie well how is it a lie I saw another I mean they go after JD vent so hard dude they really hate JD Vance they they I mean JD Vance gets called a racist even more than Trump at this point yeah no I'll definitely be able to look look at every look at all the other conservative streamers they're all showing the debate I I can show the debate for sure yeah I'll be showing the debate and reacting to it Google says Trump is 63 215 yeah that's cuz it was it was his his measurement at J at jail his measurements at jail what I know it's such a fake outrage what the hell is this and and you and it just cuts to a still image of of of the the Trump picture the AI picture with the animals oh man yeah they're muting mics yes they are they're muting mics that's been confirmed for a while now oh man Harris live debate ABC yeah I guess ABC you can stream it cspan there's a lot of different on let me just make sure that this is uh ad block is on this can't wait for Vance Waltz yeah that'll be a blowout but it's got It's GNA have less hype than this yeah I have no idea what you're talking about that that was another one man that's like back to back in the same week just just total Li just lying so obviously it's it's like bad acting [Laughter] [Music] you want to mute my mic you want to mute oh whoa whoa whoa what if they muted my M oh man use cpan I mean it doesn't really matter what you use maybe I guess because there won't be any commercials or I think there is commercials I don't know I use cpan for the DNC if Trump wins this debate he might actually win the whole election by an extremely significant margin maybe even a landslide well it depends I mean I think I think there's definitely a chance of it because she's opened herself up to getting crushed in this if she gets crushed it's going to be so catastrophic because she doesn't do interviews then she's going to have to start doing interviews but it's going to be forced because she'll be losing by so much what would you like to see Trump exposed Kamala on the most well honestly I think the board I think immigration because immigration is the You could argue the number one biggest topic yeah I mean it seems like everyone has coverage for this honestly what time is it does it start in the UK uh I don't know is it six hours later mightbe six hours later in the UK 5: a.m. I don't know ABC talking about indictments what a joke that is ABC is trashing him it's mainstream media ABC will bring up January 6th well well well it won't matter I mean Harris will bring it up either way Harris will bring it up for sure yeah like it seems like everyone everyone is alive for this honestly how many hours until it starts at like 50 minutes what would you not want to see from Trump tonight well I think a avoid it depends what question it is because I know some of Trump's strategy is to avoid certain questions they tell him to avoid the January 6 thing straight up but like some of the questions that Trump avoided in his debate against Biden were it was really dumb it was like they were good questions for him it's just when you get asked a question don't completely avoid it I mean it doesn't hurt too much with the with the mics muted it's better because you can't really get called out on it but I would say the avoidance of questions when you're asked certain things especially things like I remember he avoided a question about fentanyl coming across the border that's a good topic for Trump because they want an open border this debate is not going to help either candidate by a significant margin unless something catastrophic happens to either candidate well you also have to understand I I I understand what you're saying you're comparing the DAT debates to Prior years and they really haven't changed much but the thing about this is we we haven't seen a situation like this where one of the candidates refuses to do interviews so it could have a huge effect if she does perform poor poorly breaking points is a joke I mean yeah it's I mean some of the breaking point stuff that they've said I haven't watched it in a little while but I know they started going back to cala and it's just all crap those people like the like the one woman she's like oh now I like them she's they're all the same I mean all these Democrats they just wanted Biden out but Biden and Kamala are the same so it's like I don't understand the criticism of Biden it was always just that he's old and he's going to lose but they're both the same how long will the debate be well I I I don't know normally it's an hour and a half so normally it'll go to 10:30 yeah he says 90 minutes yeah is is there two breaks maybe two breaks within because that's what they did last time I don't know all right we don't need to see this problem societ proportionally impact it's just common sense what's common sense to it's just common sense what's common sense to Sher it brown Brown's order to allow biological men in girl Sports and supported allowing sex change surgeries for kids it's just common sense extreme shared Brown makes no sense for Ohio's the thing yeah it's it's all going to be shared Brown ads with where I live yeah I saw that dude with the meme behind him I saw that that was hilarious Trump is in well this had to have been like an hour ago this was this was about an hour ago do you have the rights to stream the debate well this is fair use this is fair use this is a political thing so that's why look at all the other conservatives as they all stream it poly Market poly Market I think is the same I was looking at the poly Market prop bets and yeah poly Market is H it went down one for Trump I think but it's it's basically been the same exact thing dang you remember this holy crap but it I mean Trump's been hanging around here for two and a half weeks it looks like this range yeah it's it's been about two and a half weeks he's been hanging around here but yeah we can take a look at some of the prop bets or I don't know are they called prop bets something like that what Will trump say I looked at all this yesterday who will win the debates according to the polls Camala 77% chance favorite to win the day after Trump should pump his fist walking in when is it starting it's starting at 9: it's it's starting in uh 44 minutes basically yeah I'll be able to stream it well the debate's obviously in Pennsylvania it's the most important state they both candidates have been living in Pennsylvania living favorite conservative podcaster I don't the only podcast I ever really listened to was Joe Rogan like four or five years ago I used to listen to him a lot but I I don't listen to really podcasters any at this point do you think they'll shake hands there's a prop bet on it I saw it was like a 16% chance or something I don't know you think they'll shake hands I mean maybe that's like Unity [ __ ] you better say tampon Tim I mean I guess if it comes up he might say it Trump should walk out with an ear bandage yeah they would just make fun of him for milking it unfortunately could Virginia still swing I mean uh it's going to be tough but I it could I mean we'll see what happens with the debate which of the Swing states which ones are the closest I'd say the Rust Belt is the closest probably right now when are you going on The Joe Rogan Experience that's that's a troll question so YouTube your only job well other than investing yes what will be the biggest surprise out of each candidate they will show uh that's an interesting question I'm not sure there's going to be a ton of surprises because I I don't just I there's not a lot of compromise going on right now with how partisan we are in the United States I mean you can kind of tell what the arguments are going to be depending on the topic because they've said it before Trum is going to take this all Cal do will ramble yeah I know she does do the word salads that's that's that's her big problem apparently it's been reported she's been trying to memorize stuff like crazy I mean it's CRA you know they they she like has these Q cards and they she tries to memorize everything yeah I think what's going on in Springfields really bad stuff obviously Juan what's up man you think 2028 would be Whitmer versus the santz come on what are we doing here I think Whitmer will probably be the VP of Nome honestly Des santz I don't know man Des santz hurt himself running against magga I don't know he might get himself back in good graces but I'm not sure he's going to be able to get a nomination it depends I mean for d say it also depends he he kind of needs Trump to lose because if Trump wins then it's going to be JD Vance more than likely you would think would state do you live in Ohio that's why you see the the brown ads the shared Brown ads do you think ABC will be fair to Trump well let me give my quick take on it I think with the mics muted it hurts the moderators significantly they really can't there's no way to interject because somebody's mic is muted so when Trump talks over Biden or you know for example Trump talks over Biden Biden talks over Trump they have to interject that's a moderator talking we saw with CNN Trump was like oh CNN's very fair I kind of think with the m with with the mukes with the with the the mic's muted I kind of think that it's the the moderators are kind of irrelevant the only thing that they can control is the conversation topic which you would think would be all the obvious ones anyways the only way it could be biased against Trump as if they spent an exorbitant amount of time on abortion on the shootings on topics that are negative and and barely talk about immigration which seems unlikely so I think the moderators are kind of taken out of it and I think the C the Harris campaign realized it so they said look we want the mics on so because then Trump would start spatting with the moderator and then be it'd be a debate with the moderator and it would make him look unpresidential and so I think the Harris campaign realized that even though Biden they said they wanted the mics muted they back they said no we want him unmuted and you could also say well she also wants to say I'm speaking and everything like that Ohio not the best state for Crime well it depends where you live every state it depends what city you live in honestly they won't run Newsome he would lose by 400 elector I mean it's impossible to say that I mean it's way way too early to say anything like that they also can cut off Trump well then it would be obvious I mean it's just it's harder for them to do that have you ever been into day trading no I haven't you think the topics will be biased yeah that's something we'll have to watch obviously that's something we'll have to watch should Trump stay away from talking about kamala's Blackness yes yes ever been to Cedar Point yeah a few times I've been there they will they'll talk about a January 6 Russia school shootings all qu yeah but then then it's too obvious they're not going to do that man they they're going to have to talk about the Border I guarantee you they'll talk about immigration that'll be a key topic they're GNA have to man if there went a full debate without an immigration question then everyone would be like all right this is absurd they're going to have to do it it's probably going to be the second or third topic it's economy immigration abortion those are the big three I'm guessing and then they're going to do the oh the recent shootings you know and then which is obviously bad for Trump because he's losing ground on you know because she's immediately going to start guilt tripping and using the tragedy for political advantage that's what they do turtle man you know what I think I do remember you man you got to catch me on a on a on a more quiet stream and we could have a conversation man no I would not buy TR I would not buy truth social stock personally man I mean even if he wins what is it going to do 2x I I just don't think it's worth it I don't think it's worth the risk I the funny thing is I do have YouTube premium but not on this account see when you're a YouTuber when you watch YouTube videos you don't use your main account to watch the videos it just doesn't make sense but I do have premium but not on my main account but I don't think they're even going to have ads anyways on on when like C-SPAN is not going to have ads I don't think who do you think will have the biggest moment of the debate well I think for for good or for bad Trump will why is everything so Pro Cala what mainstream I mean yeah you just I mean I barely watch that at this point dude you just got to get used to it I mean it is what it is this is my largest chat ever now I doubt it believe it or not I got 3,000 people live uh when I was reacting to a college football game what stock would I buy well I'd have to do some research on stocks but um I think Tesla will be a a good long-term hold voting on abortion in 2020 yeah I mean dude it abortion is such a I I know I know what you're saying but I mean dude that they get they have the tagline they're taking away your rights Harris is up by two unpredicted I I did notice that earlier today when I was doing a video she was up by five I think yesterday right the debate starts in about 30 minutes oh dude let's get this debate going man I'm ready to get it going yeah you're right yeah man that that's un dude that's a really unfortunate loss for you if you had Boise winning they really should have won that game it was two special teams touchdowns that won it for for Oregon Will trump release the 911s I highly honestly dude I doubt it anything important uh I mean it's very unlikely he might release some stuff but there's so much stuff and you you release some stuff it's all crap it's like useless check real clear in 538 uh I I haven't checked 538 in forever man honestly I guess I do have it searched up here um dude this favorability is so crazy man yeah they have Harris up by 2.7 what pull do they use yeah but this is the crazy stuff this is just this this is hard to believe it really is I mean dude you won your fantasy because mcaffry didn't play I don't know how he didn't play I didn't even realize he was questionable she will lie Trump does well rolling eyes then making a cent Point yeah I mean I mean obviously she's going to lie but so is he you know she put out a um she put out a video an ad video yesterday saying all Trump's going to do is lie well listen remember when it comes to stuff like this saying she'll lie he'll lie remember during the first debate when they said all Trump did was all all Trump did was lie and then people went back and fact checked it and Biden lied 27 times or something like that so if we're going to sit here and just start debating Who Lies more I mean like it doesn't really matter what matters is the key knockout punches we need to see a knockout punch the debate is going to be like all right what is the line on this debate well according to to to poly Market the line is uh the line is Camala minus 5 and a half believe it or not maybe like seven and a half if they've got her favored by that much I mean but it's it's it's a 538 poll that's what they're taking this from now this is not what I was talking about who will win the debate according to the polls Camala Harris at an all-time high 79% chance look at this [ __ ] they're already trying does it start at six Pacific Trump plus five and half he might be plus like eight now man this is crazy you think Trump covers the spread yeah but does he does he win that's he might cover the spread plus five and a half but does he win yeah the Texas A&M Commerce the altcoin you got your Lear learner permit today what are you 13 years old yeah they are using 538 to gauge that that is true which is pretty dumb they should they should do an aggregate like of five different pollsters and average it out what do you think I I mean yeah well 538 under any circumstance admit that she lost the debate unless it's like catastrophic I wonder what they said about Biden they probably said he lost the debate but then that was because they were trying to get rid of Biden and put pressure on him the whole de Democratic establishment was or not the whole but a lot of them what do you think of the criticism that he failed to drain the swamp oh I mean I listen Trump had zero experience leading anything so he goes in there the first time he's completely overwhelmed elmed certainly he's going to be a lot better I mean anyone is going to be better the more you know the more time you get used to a job it's going to be easier but Trump especially considering he never really ran anything so you go in there it's it's a whirlwind you spend the first five months just you know understanding that you're actually there I mean you can say it's an excuse but that's just how it is with really anyone especially someone like Trump you think he thought he had eight years well I mean maybe when he got to year three or year four he thought he was going to get reelected I'm sure but ABC their chat has turned off it'd be it'd be a Cess pool I mean ABC mods they're not they're they're not going to be that biased man they can't be they're going to have very little say the only thing they have say over is what what gets said or what what what they um the only thing that they really have say over is the topics and how long that each candidate talk talks about the topics but even that Trump will go off script and so I mean we saw Biden do it as well they'll just talk about something completely different I'd love to cook you a big steak oh my what in the hell yeah Chris Christie is going to be moderating the debate thoughts on the seral killer in Austin Texas I didn't even hear about that is there is there a wanted killer [Music] yeah even if Trump I mean you're gonna have that no matter what though I you know the idea is with the census change it's going to be harder and harder for them to win that's why they need to import more immigrants Chris Christie's physique is honestly amazing he does have a lot of muscle it's not blubber it is muscle you're right on that all right let's uh I mean what is this just a live stream of his plane they just showing Trump's plane landing over and over again you see the picture of Chuck Schumer with the cat with cheese no I haven't seen that dude these AI pictures are amazing with the cats kind of like it without crowds no I agree dude but Trump supporters think crowds are good but dude the problem with crowds is they'll freaking clap for like five minutes and it just wastes time I'm serious that's what that's what H has happened it's happened several times in previous debates where the crowd will have a reaction and it's like can they just shut up already what's Twitter saying well it depends what what you know I mean it depends what your algorithm is that that'll tell you I mean we can see if anything is trending oh the UN what if Trump comes out with a cat Trump comes out with a duck oh my God eat less kittens vote Republicans very very trendy you got to carry Lake ad you must you live in Arizona huh New York then we're going to watch a debate then tomorrow my granddaughter's birthday in New York then we're going to watch a debate and then tomorrow I'm doing 911 I spoke to the vice president tomorrow I'm doing 911 yeah he means like a memorial but still can I do a vlog in Springfield Ohio that that spring even though I live in Ohio I don't really live close to Springfield honestly it's it's multiple hours away I was going to vote for Trump but then Kamala promised TCH funded gender transition surgery for detained migrants that's that's one of their core policies what is this court by your a we have example after example of this Administration coordinated apparently according to a federal court by your agency have I seen any Haitians uh I don't live anywhere near there so so no I haven't a vlog in Springfield appar dude somebody already did do a vlog the one dude that that interviews people I saw I don't know if you guys have seen that YouTube video I think his name is Tyler he went down there and uh apparently they're really bad drivers they can't drive ABC is lying already I heard ABC was real biased against Trump in in the pre the pregame the pre-show Hunter has been helping Kamala yeah I've heard of a few people helping Kamal out during her debate prep who's more hated in Ohio LeBron or Deshawn uh Deshawn yeah I think trouble win North Carolina pretty easily what kind of drugs is Cala going to be on just [ __ ] that makes her Focus how to turn the debate into a drinking game well there's Bingo that you can play with it on poly Market did you see the sea turtle meme an illegal immigrant Dr an SUV over a sea turtle net Jesus Christ man yeah I know I I I know about the dude that you're talking about the 13 keys of course the 13 Keys got to be brought up news new scum that is a good nickname for him I mean that was Trump's nickname new scum is on CNN he praised Trump on working with him during the pandemic yeah he's trying to rewrite himself did you also see he came out and said that Camala needs to do interviews now he's trying to appear more moderate for whatever Reon maybe to try and be more likable I guess I'm guessing all young white males here I don't know we'll see we'll see we'll see what people are I mean that is a major Republican demographic imagine your little town getting T I know dude and that's like 20 30% of them taking I mean their their population was 58k I thought it was 80k but no it was 58k and I think now it's 80k when you include the migrants they they're obsessed with the race yes oh man we've got a very diverse group of white people no I mean we've got some diverse we've got some you're Russian oh man you're the devil to liberals man oh Will trump bring up Hunter Biden 911 and the fact well he's not going to bring up 911 I'll tell you that and the fact that Kamala prepared so much for the debate I highly doubt he'll bring that up either that doesn't seem like something really worthy of bringing up I mean it is kind of embarrassing how much they need to prepare Biden's was a lot worse because he was the president and he went to Camp David for 10 days is Trump's goal just to roast her uh I would I would I mean it's a long debate he can't just roast her yeah I know everyone is streaming it that's the whole point and then they say I can't stream it come on guys everyone's this is fair use everyone's streaming it there's no live audience there is no audience do you think Cala will drink before the debate I I would imagine obviously no we'll see I wonder what the first question is I wonder if anyone has what the first question is or like that normally they used to give out topics like what what the topics were were going to be [Music] um is this the actual no that's not I mean they won't even allow me to uh use ad block oh I don't know why I did that can you resume this then Trump to thank her for supporting no Taps on tips though yeah I know that's what he should do especially the wall what is this going on oh my goodness on the left the concern is sometimes about too few and purging this was aired on August 27th and what's the point of doing this it's ridiculous what happened to the Lego Twin Towers you want to know what happened is the glare of them was really bad like behind me when I got this new webcam and like it made it really like because they were trying to focus on it it's the way it was just it's weird to explain but I can't really have them behind me anymore because the glare with my new webcam dude 400k watching this oh my God an economic message that lifts people up instead really Josh Shapiro has to have a have a have a you'll see about her track record prute the case effectively against Donald Trump tonight you mentioned the case against Trump what about Joe Biden you know how does she go about building off of their record but making clear to it is concerned that she won't just be Biden 2.0 well serving as Joe Biden's vice president made her fit and ready to serve on day one I think it's important 999 people watching position her things she wants to do for this nation Jos Shapiro who didn't get picked because he's Jewish is Talk's vision for the future is a stark contrast to the dangerous vision of the future that Donald Trump has one of less freedom and more chaos under Donald Trump we will see how it unfolds on the debate stage Governor Shapiro thank you so much all right so imagine they turned on the chat it would just be de Donald Trump and help him prepare for guys how is the sound of this how is the sound is the sound is is that too loud am I too [Music] loud well this is freaking a commercial yeah I did I switched the sound a little bit I did switch the sound a little bit so that's that's good to hear how long did it take me to reach 168,000 subscribers well I mean it's all public I mean you could look it up honestly on social blade if you wanted to I mean it took like three and a half years maybe AC it was good before the adjustment well no I have it turned down because it's a commercial when it's a commercial I'm going to turn the sound down yeah make it a l I'll make it louder when when it comes back on are you going to have commercials I don't think um I don't I don't think there well actually there will be commercials on this yes there's no reason for her to say excuse me because the mics are muted yeah there's two commercial breaks scheduled that's it's the exact same rules as in in the B the Biden Trump debate exact same rules you started watching me during realignment yeah I remember those videos Man 10 minutes yet 10 minutes and then it's an hour well it's it's not an hour long it there's going to be two commercials but it's going basically 90 straight minutes of a debate what made you start getting into politics I've always been interested in in I mean the First videos on my channel were about politics but it's just always something really since 2015 I've been interested I mean a lot of it's probably some of it's probably Trump I mean Trump M makes politics a lot different than what it normally is any live betting going on well what would the live bet be I mean in terms of the the debate like who who wins the debate I the one thing I was looking at was like would they ever do like live who's winning the debate with a poll but then the poll could be biased it's like is there really even a point to that like CNN's going to release a snap debate poll I'm sure every time Cala laughs they'll need a commercial break so the viewers can recover yeah I I I wonder if they're aware of that and they like they tell her to shut up and don't do the laugh at all the of tonight's debate this reminds me of like a Hillary vers TR type background and I'm Jonathan Bruce and Rachel Scott the candidates are just off the stage ready to walk out they are in their hold rooms just minutes for making that walk what do you think that chance Harris has a mental breakdown awesome but it's also that time you just say this is go time you get in your I don't think there's a high chance of that unfortunately break where has the stage going go out open the all right well then let's bring somebody in who has been there both debating Donald Trump that's nice carpet for General the former Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie so so Chris you you've helped prepare Trump for this moment several times he says he doesn't Chris Christy this dude's like crying into that room right now he's crying well look at at this point he's he's in the worst hour of of his uh cep because you just have to sit there and wait um and wait for I'm shocked he's supporting Trump they make you get there early and so he is there he's not really being spoken to you know a little small talk here and there but nobody's trying to um give him any kind of Clues so so let me ask you the question wait is he supporting TR or not now ask Tom coton he didn't of answer but you will which Trump is going to show up tonight you know what I mean by that I can't believe ABC would do a show Chris chrisy as the Trump supporter I think at the beginning of the debate oh my God the Trump who will show up will be the cmer Donald Trump he knows inherently after the 2020 first debate against Joe Biden that the other Donald Trump is not the one that's a winning formula the questions could I mean he did beat Biden in 2024 continue to maintain that approach through questioning by David and Lindsay and through any comments that vice president Harris makes in his Direction and that'll be the key to how he performs tonight and you and I were talking you helped to prepare him for those 2016 debates against Hillary Clinton uh he he told you that he had resp what a weird person to bring on Hillary Clinton this is this is mainstream media though what about KLA Harris we hear not the well certainly he's not saying that publicly in any way and I can tell you that in 2016 regular during does not like many debate prep sessions that is pissed off um that Hillary Clinton was smart that she was a good debat her that she was not to be taken lightly and I don't think there was ever a moment in 2016 where he took her lightly um I do think he took Joe Biden lately in 2020 um and clearly during the prep sessions that I had with him it was very very very difficult to get him to focus um on what Joe Biden might or might not do in that first debate why does he look like he just reflected that so the question's going to be is what he's saying publicly what what are you watching it on it's on just their YouTube live stream that's performance um but I will tell you that in his 2016 prep he was serious about getting ready for Hillary Clinton in his 2020 debate prep he was completely unserious about getting ready for Joe Biden I think performan in both those debates reflected that approach all right Chris Chris he won the second debate against Biden in we have about six minutes left before the debate so let's bring in Donna Brazil formerly the DNC and rs prous it's funny they have Donna Brazil on after after what happened with her in CNN said thata Harris has to own the future but she also has to own the past so how does she do this it's quite easy because I do believe that in talking about the future you draw from your past you draw from your past experiences she draws from how she was raised the values that was instilled in her as a young lady I think will Brown instilled some values to her still in her resolve and tonight she should talk to the American people sit in their living rooms go to their kitchen table and say look I have some ideas that I want to share with you there's so much that we have done together over the last four years but here's what I think we can do together over the next four years be positive in her approach and really remind the American people that we don't want to go back to the chaos and the confusion the disaster that made am nervous at all people go out Groves in 2020 I just want Trump to do well say I want to be a president that lead all Americans I want to keep us strong and secure and here's the plan uh that I want to share with you tonight and and Donna I of course meant uh Biden she she has to own up to the Biden admin administrations any mistakes they made too and Donald go after her on that you know Martha they made mistakes Donald Trump and Mr Pence made mistakes but you know what if we focus on our mistakes we won't focus on all of the good things guys I I I I will uh I I'll I'll let them talk I'm not going to talk over them able to work the people who can buy their insulin without paying over $1,000 $35 there's so much good that she can talk about from the visit that she's made to small towns across this country Lord cities across the country bring us together the American people want to be led into the future not dragged back to another era and r i I want your thought which I don't think she's going to bring out an accent to be honest if that was a serious question I don't think she's going to I believe what Donald Trump do you think will see tonight can he be disciplined about talking about policies and what kind of President he will be well he certainly can be I mean the reality is Donald Trump doesn't have a lot to lose tonight I mean his why does old lady constantly wrinkle her forehead unmovable so the second piece is the think is over and you all kind of touched on it with Donna she Camala Harris has to answer for the state of the economy that she took a role in in the Biden Administration the Border uh you know her her past positions on decriminalizing the border decriminalizing certain drugs uh what her role was in Afghanistan so really the the spotlight is on Camala Harris tonight because she played a role in the Biden Administration she wants to act like she's not an incumbent so this is where the focus is going to be and she's got a lot to answer for tonight and I that's where Don is streaming it as well will be in where it actually I think everyone is streaming it well one of the things he wants to do is have female voters look at him how does he Tim Walt is streaming it govern tonight things said about Harris that she's dumb as a rock that's not really going to attract female voters is it yeah no no it won't but I also think that just like he did in the first debate against Joe Biden I think the all right guys tell me if the tell me if the volume is good constantly some told me to turn it up kamla Harris to the Biden Administration which is where Trump is winning against her on the economy inflation and all these other problems that were having and then sit back and let her talk let her explain herself her past positions current positions how does she feel about how Biden has done on the economy how does she feel about the Border then turn it over and let her talk okay thanks so much for how does she feel about the Border are you kidding dude what are we even talking about to say as we are just couple less than two minutes away this such how does she feel about the Border she wants more illegal immigrants and she loves these two people that have been the center of Our Lives for the last two months have never met each other have never even met each other and Harris said if you got something to say say it to my face the question tonight does Donald Trump actually go there he's questioned her racial identity he's questioned her intelligence as well or does he stick to the issues look this is the largest audience they're likely going to have in this race it will be interesting to see if Harris can make clear the Stark Choice before voters and where does she punches she can punch hard can she do that while Rising above the needling coming first question all right what is the first question when the two of them meet for the first time didn't back in 2016 when I did that debate we'll stand by to see that tonight but the first time side to side together and I have my doubts that we're going to see that handshake but what we are going to see is a spirited debate and perhaps the most consequential general election debate we have ever seen because almost certainly going to be the last one so with the almost certainly going to be the last one this is why she's such a coward man so they're already giving her oh it's only the only fact checking on our live blog oh yeah fact cheing with you people right here the debate now just 10 seconds Trump is demon true we will be back with our postgame show as soon as it over we are going to toss it right now to David mure and lindsy day tonight the high stake Showdown here in Philadelphia between vice president kamla Harris and former president Donald Trump oh God their first face Toof face meeting in this presidential election their first face to-face meeting ever a his race for president just weeks ago President Biden withdrawing after his last debate Donald Trump now up against a new opponent the candidates separated by the smallest of margins essentially tied in the polls nationally and in the key Battlegrounds including right here in Pennsylvania all still very much in play the ABC News presidential debate starts right now this is an ABC News special the most consequential moment of this campaign kamla Harris together we will charge is in theater mod Way Forward Donald Trump we will soon be a great nation again face to face historic the ABC News presidential debate here now David M and Lindsay Davis good evening I'm David mure and thank you for joining us for tonight's ABC News presidential debate we want to welcome viewers watching on ABC and around the world tonight vice president kamla Harris and president Donald Trump are just moments away from taking the stage in this unprecedented race for president and I'm lindsy Davis tonight's meeting could be the most consequential campaigns with election day now less than two months away for vice president kamla Harris this is her first debate since President Biden withdrew from the race on July 21st of course that decision followed his debate against President Donald Trump in June since then this race has taken on an entirely new Dynamic and that brings us to the rules of tonight's debate 90 minutes with two commercial breaks no topics or question questions have been shared with the campaigns the candidates will have 2 minutes to answer questions and this is the clock that's what they'll be seeing 2 minutes for rebuttal and one minute for follow-ups clarifications or responses their microphones will only be turned on when it's their turn to speak no pre-written notes allowed there is no audience here tonight in this Hall at the national Constitution Center this is an intimate setting for two candidates who have never met president Trump won the coin toss he chose to deliver the final closing statement of the evening vice president har making fun of that so let's now welcome the candidates to the stage vice president KLA Harris and president Donald Trump if I make it full screen it's gonna it's it's it's all based on OBS I can't do it Harris Let's Have a good debate you see you have fun thank you welcome both it's wonderful to have you it's an honor to have you both here tonight good evening we are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate so let's get started I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one issue and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country vice president Harris you and president Trump were eled four years ago and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters are you better off than you were four years ago when it comes to the economy do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago so I was raised as a middle class kid and I am actually the only person on stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America I believe in the ambition the aspirations the dreams of the American people and that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy because here's the thing we know that we have a a shortage of of homes and housing and the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people we know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000 which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time so that those young families can afford to buy a crib buy a car seat buy clothes for their children my passion one of them is small businesses I was actually my mother raised my sister and me but there was a woman who helped raise us we call her our second mother she was a small business owner I love our small businesses my plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to start up small businesses knowing they are part of the backbone of America's economy my opponent on the other hand his plan is to do what he has done before which is to provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations which will result in five trillion dollars to America's deficit my opponent has a plan that I call the Trump's sales tax which would be a 20% tax on everyday Goods that you rely on to get through the month economists have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle class families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be the backs of middle class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires what did she even say first of all I have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that we're doing tariffs on other countries other countries are going to finally after 75 years years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and the Tariff will be substantial in some cases I took in billions and billions of dollars as you know from China in fact they never took the Tariff off because it was so much money they can't it would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do they're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on when I had it I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation uh look we've had a terrible economy because inflation has which is really known as a country Buster it breaks up countries we have inflation like very few people have ever seen before probably the worst in our nation's history we were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50 60 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago this has been a disaster for people for the middle class but for every class on top of that we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails from mental institutions and insane asylums and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African-Americans and Hispanics and also unions unions are going to be affected very soon and you see what's happening you see what's happening with towns throughout the United States you look at Springfield Ohio you look at Aurora Colorado they are taking over the towns they're taking over buildings they're going in violently these are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country they're dangerous they're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out we have to get them out fast I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country I'll do it again and even better we are going to get to immigration and Border secur immigrant to come in I would like to let vice president Harris respond on the economy here well I would love to let's talk about what Donald Trump left us Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great depression because of Donald Trump left us the worst Public Health epidemic in a century it was the left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess what we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people but I'm going to tell youall in this debate tonight you're going to hear from the same old tired Playbook a bunch of Lies Grievances and name calling tonight is a detailed and dangerous Plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together know we have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans president Trump I'll give you a minute here to respond number one I have nothing to do as you know and as she knows better than anyone I have nothing to do with project 2025 uh that's out there I haven't read it I don't want to read it purposely I'm not going to read it this was a group of people that got together they came up with some ideas I guess some good some bad but it makes no difference I have nothing to do everybody knows I'm an open book everybody knows what I'm going to do cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before we had the greatest economy we got hit with a pandemic you strile not since 1917 where 100 million people died has there been anything like it we did a phenomenal job with the pandemic we handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in nobody's ever seen anything like it we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got masks we did things that nobody thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give give me credit for a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only jobs they got were bounceback jobs these were jobs bounc back and it bounced back and it went to their benefit but I was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else vice president Harris I'll let you respond so Donald Trump has no plan for you and when you look at his economic plan it's all about tax breaks for the richest people I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy the best economists in our country if not the world have reviewed our relative plans for the future of America what Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse mine would strengthen the economy what the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit 16 Nobel laurates have described his economic plan as something that inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you that's just a sound bite they gave her that to say look I went to the Wharton School of finance and many of those professors the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan it's a great plan it's a plan that's gonna bring up our our worth our value as a country it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and uh create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for our for our country and just to finish off there's the strategy sarcastic smile doesn't have a plan she copied Biden's plan and it's like four sentences like Run Spot Run four sentences that are just oh we'll try and lower taxes she doesn't have a plan take a look at her plan she doesn't have a plan that's Come Out Mr President I do want Dr down something you both brought up the vice president brought up your tariffs you responded and let's drill down on this because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national sales tax your proposal calls for tariffs as you pointed out here on Foreign imports across the board you recently said that you might double your plan imposing tariffs up to 20% on Goods coming into this country as you know many economists say that with tariffs at that level costs are then passed on to the consumer vice president Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas food clothing medication arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs they're not going to have higher prices what's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years I charged I was the only president ever China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries and you know if she doesn't like them they should have gone out and they should have immediately cut the tariffs but those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their Administration we are going to take in billions of dollars hundreds of billions of dollars I had no inflation virtually no inflation they had the highest inflation perhaps in the history of our country because I've never seen a worse period of time people can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else these the people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done they've destroyed the economy and all you have to do is look at a poll the polls say 80 and 85 and even 90% that the Trump economy was great that their economy was terrible vice president Harris I do want to ask for your response the administration did keep a number of the Trump tariffs in place so how do you respond well let's be clear that the Trump Administration resulted in a trade deficit one of the highest we've ever seen in the history of America he invited trade Wars you want to talk about his deal with China what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency he ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military basically sold us out when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the competition for the 21st century which means focing the details of what that requires focusing on relationships with our allies focusing on investing in american-based technology so that we win the race on AI Quantum Computing focusing on what we need to do to support America's Workforce so that we don't end up having the on the short end of the stick in terms of workers rights but what Donald Trump talk about this with Co is he actually thanked president shei for what he did during Co look at his tweet thank you president XI exclamation point when we know that she was responsible for lacking and not giving us she's got TW critizing the president Trump I'll let you respond first of all they bought their chips from Taiwan we hardly make chips anymore because of uh philosophies like they have and policies like they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat and there it is reaction Strat if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will the sarcastic TR to call it out she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he Tau her well but when you look at what she's done to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger than the New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country they're criminals many of these people coming in are criminals and that's bad for our economy too you know you mentioned before we'll talk about immigration later well bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy they have and she has destroyed our country with policy that's insane almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country president Trump thank you Lindsay I want to turn to the issue you were able to kill roie Wade last year you said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history then last month you said that your Administration would be great for women and their Reproductive Rights in your home state of Florida you surprised many uh with regard to your six- week abortion ban because you initially had said that it was too short and you said quote I'm going to be voting that we need more than 6 weeks but then the very next day you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six- we ban vice president Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of of abortion because changed your position so many times therefore why should they trust you well the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is as you know the vote is they have abortion in the ninth month they even have and you can look at the governor of West Virginia the previous governor of West Virginia not the current governor is doing an excellent job but the governor before he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby in other words we'll execute the baby and that's why I did that because that predominates because they're radical the Democrats are radical in that and her vice presidential pick which I think is a horrible pick by the way for our country because he is really out of it but her vice presidential Pi abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine he also says execution after birth it's execution no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay and that's not okay with me hence the vote but what I did is something for 52 years they've been trying to get roie wade into the states and through the uh genius and and heart and strength of six Supreme Court Justices we were able to do that now I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and life of the mother I believe strongly in it Ronald Reagan did also 85% of exceptions very important but we were able to get it and now states are voting on it and for the first time you're going to see look this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years every legal scholar every Democrat every Republican liberal conservative they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote and that's what happened happened now Ohio the vote was somewhat Liberal Kansas the vote was somewhat liberal much more liberal than people would have thought but each individual state is voting it's the vote of the people now it's not tied up in the federal government I did a great service in doing it it took courage to do it and the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it and I give tremendous credit to those six justices there is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born mad vice president want to get your response to oh there it is there's the ABC you're going to hear a bunch of lies and that's not actually a surprising fact let's understand how we got here Donald Trump hand selected three members of the United stes Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of roie Wade and they did exactly as he intended and now in over 20 states there are Trump abortion bans which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide Health Care in one state it provides prison for life Trump abortion bans that make no excep even for rap and in which understand what that means a survivor of a crime of violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next that is immoral and do not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body I have talked with women around our country you want to talk about this is what people wanted pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot she didn't want that her husband didn't want that you've lost the argument when AR inest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term they don't want that and I pledge to you you're arguing the outliers when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of roie Wade as president of the United States I will proudly sign it into law but understand if Donald Trump were to be reelected he will sign a National Abortion ban understand in his project 2025 there would be a National Abortion a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies your miscarriages I think the American people believe that certain freedoms in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body should not be made by the government the moderator going to say that's a lie well there she goes again it's a lie I'm notat and there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what everybody wanted Democrats Republicans and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the states and the states are voting and it may take a little time but for 52 years this issue has torn our country apart and they've wanted it back in the States and I did something that nobody thought was possible the states are now voting what she says is an absolute lie and as far as the abortion B no I'm not in favor of abortion B but it doesn't matter because this issue has now been taken over by the states would you veto a National Abortion ban if it well I won't have to because again and two things number one she said she'll go back to Congress she'll never get the vote there's impossible for her to get the vote especially now with the 5050 essentially 5050 in both Senate and the house she's not going to get the vote she can't get the vote she so it's just talk you know what it reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total catastrophe the student loans and then her I I think probably her boss if you call him a boss he spends all his time on the beach but look her boss went out and said we'll do it again we'll do it a different way and he went out got rejected Again by the Supreme Court so all these students got uh taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how unfair that would have been part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their student loans they didn't get it for free but they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that that they talk about abortion but if I could just get a yes or Vance has said that you would veto if you did come to your desk well I didn't discuss it with JD in all fairness uh JD and I I don't mind if he has a certain view but I think he was speaking for me but I really didn't look we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it just like she couldn't get student loans they couldn't get student loans they didn't even come close to getting student loans they taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans they question for haris so it doesn't matter what she says are B going to Congress so wonderful let's go to Congress do it but the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal government and we did something that everybody said couldn't be done and now you have a vote of the people on abortion vice president Harris want to give you your time to respond but I do want to ask would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion I absolutely support reinstating the protections of roie Wade and as you abortion before mentioned nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and and in asking for an abortion that is not happening it's insulting to the women of America and understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans couples who pray and and and and dream of having a family are being denied I treatments what is happening working people working women who are working one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable of cases and the people of America have not the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body and that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue States both the people of America have voted for Freedom vice president excuse me I have to respond another lie it's another lie I have been a leader on IVF which which is fertilization the IVF I have been a leader in fact when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts I saw the people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in I've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it I have been a leader on fertilization IVF and the other thing I thought they weren't allowed notes you should ask will she allow abortion in the eighth month ninth month seventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask her that question why don't you the you could do abortions in the seventh month the eth month the ninth month and probably after birth just look at the governor former governor of Virginia the governor of Virginia said we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby Trump thank you we're going to turn now to immigration and border security we know it's an issue that's important to Republicans Democrats voters across the board immigration vice president Harris you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes of migration from Central America we know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden Administration this past June President Biden imposed tough new Asylum restrictions we know the numbers since have dropped significantly but my question to you tonight why did the administration wait until 6 months before the election to act and would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this so I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns drugs human beings and let me say that the United States Congress including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate came up with a border security bill which I supported here we go and that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents On the Border to help those folks who are working there right now overtime trying to do their job it would have allowed us to stem the flow of coming into the United States I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by The Surge of fentanyl in our country that bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking and your original executive order made the problem in the first place Donald Trump got on the phone called up some folks in Congress and said kill the bill and you know why because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem and understand this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in Solutions who actually addresses the problems at hand but what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem I'll tell you something he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight even when it's not the subject that is being raised and I'm something really unusual and I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch we need people at your rallies you get see during the course of his rallies he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early talk about the buses talk about the buses and I will tell you the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you you will not hear him talk about your needs your dreams and your and I'll tell you I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first and I pledge to you that I will vice president Harris thank you president Trump on that point I want to get your response I would like to respond let me just ask though why did you try to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers On the Border first let me respond is to the rallies she said people start leaving people don't go to her rallies there's no reason to go and the people that do go she's busing them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies in the history of politics that's because people want to take their country back our country is being lost we're a failing nation and it happened three and a half years ago and what what's going on here you're going to end up in World War III just to go into another subject what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and a lot of towns don't want to talk not going to be aurar or Springfield a lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it in Springfield He Just Smiles like eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they eating yes yes eating the pets why are you laughing that's horrible you laugh when animals get eaten this is what in our country and it's a shame as far as Ries are concerned as far as the reason they go is they like what I say they want to bring our country back they want to make America great again it's very simple phrase great again she's destroying this country and if she becomes president this country doesn't have a chance of success not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids I just want to clarify here you bring up Springfield Ohio and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or abused by interviews you dumb imant Community people on television let me say here this is people on television say my was taken and used for food so maybe he said that and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager their culture I mean people are television say their dog was eaten by the people that went there again the Springfield City manager says there's no evidence of that vice president Harris I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard horribly biased you talk about extreme you know I this is I think one of the why in this election I actually have the endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush Mitt Romney including the endorsement of former vice president chy and Congress member Liz Cheney and if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already just ask people who have worked with him his former Chief of Staff of forar has said he has contempt for the Constitution of the United States his former National Security adviser has said he is dangerous and unfit his former Secretary of Defense has said the nation the Republic would would never surv people that say she's miserable to work with and he's got to hit her on this and when we listen to this kind of rhetoric when the issues that affect the American people are not being addressed I think the choice is clear in this election President Trump I'll give you a quick minute to respond here uh thank you because when I hear that see I'm a different kind of a person I fired most of those people not so graciously they did bad things or a bad job I fired them they never fired one person they didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people who's who's were just killed viciously and violently killed and I got to know the parents and the family they didn't fire they should have fired all those generals all those top people because that was one of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen so when somebody does a bad job I fire him and you take a guy like esper he was no good I fired him so he WR a book another one writes a book because with me they can write books with nobody else can they coping but they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody look at the economy look how look at the inflation they didn't fire any of their economists they have the same people that's a good way not to have books written about you but just to finish I got more votes than any Republican in history by far in fact I got more votes than any president sitting president in history by far let me continue on immigration it was what you wanted to talk about earlier so let's get back to your deportation uh uh proposal that the vice president has reacted to as well president Trump you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country you say you would use the National Guard you say if things get out of control you'd have no problem using the US military you also said you would use local police uh how would you uh Deport 11 million undocumented immigrants I know you you believe that number is much higher take us through this what does this look like will authorities be going door too in this country yeah it is much higher because of them they allowed criminals many many millions of criminals they allowed terrorists they allowed Common Street criminals they allowed people to come in drug dealers to come into our country and then now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela don't ever come back or we're going to kill you do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down you know why because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to put into our country and this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow and I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes but it's not worth it because they're they're destroying the fabric of our country by what they've done there's never been anything done like this at all they've destroyed the fabric of our country millions of people l in and all over the world crime is down all over the world except here crime here is up and through the roof despite their fraudulent statements that they made crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible president Trump as you know the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down in this country but the FBI defra they were defrauding statements they they didn't include the worst cities they didn't include the cities with the worst crime it was a a fraud just like their number of 818 th000 jobs they turned out to be you right I was wrong I'll let you respond vice president Harris well I think so rich coming from someone who has been prosecuted they're only fact checking Trump for National Security crimes economic crimes election interference has been found liable for sexual assault and his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing and let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement the former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement 45,000 agents get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts so let's talk about this race it is important that we move forward that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric and address the needs of the American people address what we need to do about the housing shortage which I have a plan for address what we must support our small businesses address Bringing Down the price of groceries but frankly the American people are exhausted with this same old tired Playbook vice president Harris thank you excuse me every one of those bces was started by them against their political opponent and I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal and you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court I'm winning most of them but those are cases it's called weaponization never happened in this country they weaponized the justice department every one of those cases was involved with the doj from Atlanta and fornie Willis to to the uh Attorney General of New York and the da of New York every one of those cases and then they say oh he was he's a criminal they're the ones that made them go after me by the way Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case and what happened in my documents case they said oh that's the toughest of them all a complete and total Victory two months ago it was thrown out its weaponization and they used it and it's never happened in this country they used it to try and win an election fake cases Pres Trump thank you a really quick response here vice president Harris on this notion of weaponization of the justice department well let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place United States sure recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate I'm quoting the Constitution of the United States that he would weaponize the Department of Justice against his politic why you do someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military understand what it would mean Donald back in the white house with no guard rails because certainly we know now the court won't stop him we know JD Vance is not going to stop him it's up to the American people vice president Harris thank you Lindsay vice president Harris in your last run for president weaponized please this is the one that weaponized not me she weaponized I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy I'm a threat to democracy they're the threat to democracy a fake Russia Russia Russia investigation that went nowhere we have a lot to get to Lindsay C off you can't talk about wanted to ban fracking now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now you're your campaign says you don't criminalizing border crossings now you're taking a harder line I know you say that your values have not changed so then why have so many of your policy positions changed so my values have not changed and I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made but in particular let's talk about fracking because we're here in Pennsylvania I made that very clear in 2020 I will not ban fracking no you didn't as vice president United States and in fact I was the tiebreaking vote on the inflation reduction act which opened new leases for fracking my position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our Reliance on foreign oil we have had the largest making now domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil as it relates to my values let me tell you I grew up a middle class kid raised by hopefully who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager the values I bring to the importance of home ownership knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders to increase 3 million homes increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first first term my work she doesn't even know what she's saying now having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather and my focus then on protecting CRI based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable my work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on longstanding work that I have done protecting seniors from scam this is a bunch of nothing my values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name calling the true measure of prison because you don't like them is the leader who actually understands the strength is not in beating people down it's in lifting people up will Brown you up that president president Trump your well first of all I wasn't given $400 million I wish was my father was a Brooklyn Builder Brooklyn $400 million I learned a lot from him but I was given a fraction of that a tiny fraction and I built it into many many billions of dollars many many billions and when people see it they are even surprised so we don't have to talk about that fracking she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been against that forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they were all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now if you don't mind please does that sound familiar she went out he did it she went out in Minnesota I'm speaking and wanted to let criminals that killed people that burned down Minneapolis she went out and raised money to get them out of jail she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison this is a radical left liberal that would do this she wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania if she won the elction in Pennsylvania will day one just to finish one thing so important in my opinion so I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before they took when they took over they got rid of it started getting rid of it and the prices were going up the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were I would have been five times four times five higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up she starting to lose her luster because they had no choice because the energy were were quadrupling and you saw what happened to gasoline so they said let's go back to Trump but if she won the election the day after that election they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead fossil fuel will be dead we'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get some energy to come out you ever see a solar plant by the way I'm a big fan of solar but they take 400 500 are not good things for the environment she understands thank you Lindsay thank you we have an election in just 56 days and I want to talk about the power which of course we all know is a Cornerstone of our democracy and the role of a president in a moment of Crisis Mr President on January 6 you told your supporters to March to the capital you said you would be right there with them the country and the world played out of the capital that day the officers coming under attack AIDS in the west wings say you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office uh you did send out tweets but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message telling to go home anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically I said during my speech not later on peacefully and patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed Ashley babbit was shot by an outof control police officer that should have never ever shot her it's a disgrace but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly I ask what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people she allowed to pour in she was the bordar remember that she was the bordar she doesn't want to be called the bordar because she's embarrassed by the Border in fact she said at the beginning well I'm surprised you're not talking about the Border yet that's because she knows what a bad job they've done what about those people what's when are they going to be prosecuted when are these people from countries all over the world not just South America they're coming in from all over the world David all over the world and crime rates are down all over the world because of it one of those David one of those people going to be prosecuted one of the people that burn Minneapolis going to be prosecuted or in Seattle they went into Seattle they took over a big percentage of the city of Seattle when are those people going to be prosecuted but let me just ask you you might ask her that question you were the president you were watching it unfold on television it's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election is there anything about what you did on that day yes or nothing that other than they asked me to make a speech I showed up for a speech I said I think it's going to be big I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington DC and the mayor put it back in writing as you know I said you know this is going to be a very big Rally or whatever you want to call it and again it wasn't done by me it was done by others I said I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers Pelosi they rejected me Nancy Pelosi rejected me it was just two weeks ago daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened they want to get rid of that tape it would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs I wasn't responsible for security Nancy Pelosi was responsible she didn't do her job on purpose not about former speaker Pelosi but I do want vice president Harris to respond here I was at the capital on January 6th I was the vice president elect I was also I was there and on that day the president of the United States incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital to desecrate our nation's capital AR 140 law enforcement officers were injured and some died oh now you care about law enforcement I thought they were all racist former president has been indicted and impeached for exactly that reason but this is not an isolated situation let's remember Charlottesville there was a mob of people carrying torches spewing anti-semitic hate very fine people and what did the president at the time say again there were fine people on each side again with the LIE remember they won't stop lying that when it came to the proud boys a militia the moderators need to call that out the president said the former president said stand back and stand by so for everyone watching who remembers what January moderators need to do this right now I say we don't have to go back let's not go back we're not going back it's time to we're not going back to Bid And if that was a bridge too far for you well there is a place in our campaign for you to stand so we get 50% inflation for country to stand for our democracy to stand for rule of law stand for illegal imigration chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome and be clear on that point Donald Trump the candidate has said in this election in 2016 when you blame Russia if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking let's turn the page on this let's not go back let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the Past let me just follow up here it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on Charlottesville that story has been as you would say debunked Laura Ingram sea Hannity Jesse all of these people they covered it if they go an extra sentence they will see it was perfect it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they still bring it up just like they bring 2025 up they bring bring all of this stuff up I ask you this you talk about the capital why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border how come she's not doing anything and I'll tell you what I would do and I would be very proud to do it I would say we would both leave this debate right now I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC during this debate because we're wasting a lot of time go down to because she's been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to Washington DC and let her sign a bill to close up the Border because they have the right to do it they don't need bills they have the right to do it the president of the United States you'll get them out of bed you'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to the office let's sign a bill If he if he signs a bill that the border is closed all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal if they do that the border is closed those people are killing many people unlike j6 we talked immigration here tonight I do want to focus on this next us Focus Truth uh in these times that we're living in Mr President for 3 and a half years after you lost the 2020 election you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won many times saying you won in a landslide in the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate uh you have said quote you lost by a whisker that you quote didn't quite make it that you came up a little bit short yeah you could tell she was even knowledging that you lost in 2020 I don't acknowledge that at all I said that sarcastic Zu we said bring that was said sarcastically look there's so much proof all you have to do is look at it and they should have sent it back to the legislatur for approval I got almost 75 million votes the most votes any sitting president has ever gotten I was told if I got 63 which was what I got in 2016 you can't be beaten the election people should never be thinking about an election is fraudulent we need two things we need walls and we have to have it we have to have borders and we have to have good elections our elections are bad and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in they're trying to get them to vote they can't even speak English they don't even know what country they're in practically and these people are trying to get them to vote and that's why they're allowing them to come into our country I did watch all of these pieces of video I I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by whisker we didn't quite make it and we should just point out here as clarification and you know this you and your allies 60 cases in front of many judges many of them and said bring the Zuck that's the other thing bring up the have standing a technicality can you imagine a system where a person in an election doesn't have standing the president of the United States doesn't have standing that's how we lost if you look at the facts and I'd love to have you you'll do a special on it I'll show you Georgia and I'll show you Wisconsin and I'll show you Pennsylvania and I'll show you we have so many facts and statistics but you know what that doesn't matter because we have to solve the problem that we have right now that's old news and the problem that we have right now is we have a nation in Decline and they have put it into decline we have a nation that is dying David Mr President thank you uh vice president Harris you heard the president there tonight he said he didn't say that that he lost by whiskers so he still uh believes uh he did not lose the election uh that was won by President Biden uh and yourself but I do want to ask you about something that's come up the last coule days this was a post president Trump about this upcoming election just weeks away he said when I win those people who cheated and then he lists donors voters election officials he says we'll be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law which will include long-term prison sentences one of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us we won't let him suppress the vote is that what you believe he's trying to do here Donald Trump was fired by people so let's be clear about that and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that but we cannot afford to have a president of the United States who attempts as he did in the past to upend the will of the voters in a free and fair election and I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the world as vice president the United States and world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump military leaders some of whom do for and they say you're a disgrace does he not sent for NATO enough they like talk in this way in a presidential debate what over and over again are court cases you have lost because you did in fact lose that election it leads one to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate to my right the temperament or or the ability to not be confused about fact that's deeply TR Amer people deserve better is that presidential to do an interiew give you one minute to respond Mr President let me just tell you about world leaders Victor Orban one of the most respected men they call him a strong man he's a he's a tough person smart prime minister of Hungary they said why is the whole world blowing up three years ago it wasn't why is it blowing up he said because you need Trump back as president they were afraid of him China was afraid and I don't like to use the word afraid but I'm just quoting him China was afraid of North Korea was afraid of him look at what's going on with North Korea by the way he said Russia was afraid of him I ended the nordstream 2 Pipeline and Biden put it back on day one but he ended the XL Pipeline the XL pipeline in our country he ended that but he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany the biggest pipeline in the world look Victor Orban said it he said the most respected most feared person is Donald Trump we had no problems when Trump was president but when this weak pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running on set of H he got no votes he got 14 million votes what you did you talk about a threat to democracy right he got 14 million votes and they threw him out of office and you know what I'll give you a little secret he hates her he can't stand her but he got 14 million votes they threw him out she got zero votes and when she ran she was the first one to leave because she failed and now she's running I don't understand it but your time is up we're going do very well more to get turning now to the Israel Hamas War oh she didn't have to respond to that we still being held Americans among them vice president Harris in December you said quote Israel has a right to defend itself but you added quote it matters how saying International humanitarian law must be respected Israel must do more to protect inocent civilians you said that 9 months ago now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead nearly 100 hostages remain just last week prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the making President Biden has not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got here on October 7 Hamas a terrorist organization slaughtered 1200 Israelis many of them young simply attending a concert women were horribly raped and so absolutely I said then I say now Israel has a right to defend itself we would and how it does so matter far lefs are going to hate this because it is also true far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed children mothers what we know is that this war must end it must win end immediately and the way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out and so we will continue to work around the clock on that work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a course for a two-state solution and in that solution there must be security for the Israeli people and Israel and an equal measure for the Palestinians but the one thing I will assure you always I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself in particular as it rates to as it relates to Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies posed to Israel but we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve president Trump how would you negotiate with netan who and also Hamas in order to get the hostages out and prevent the killing of more innocent civilian ions in Gaza if I were president it would have never started if I were president Russia would have never ever I know Putin very well he would have never and there was no threat of it either by the way for four years have gone into Ukraine and killed millions of people when you add it up far worse than people understand what's going on over there but when she mentions about Israel all of a sudden she hates Israel she wouldn't even meet with Netanyahu when he went to Congress to make a very important speech she refused to be there because she was at a sority party of hers she wanted to go to the sority party she hates Israel if she's president I believe that Israel will not exist within two years from now and I've been pretty good at predictions and I hope I'm wrong about that one she hates Israel at the same time in her own way she hates the Arab population because the whole place is going to get blown up Arabs Jewish people is Israel Israel will be gone it would have never happened Iran was broke under Donald Trump now Iran has $300 billion because they took off all the sanctions that I had Iran had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah or any of the 28 different uh spheres of Terror and they are spheres of Terror horrible Terror they had no money it was a big story and you know it you covered it very well actually they had no money for Terror they were broke now they're a rich nation and now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around look at what's happening with the htis and Yemen look at what's going on in the Middle East this would have never happened I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended if I'm president-elect I'll get it done before even becoming president vice president Harris he says you hate Israel oh that's absolutely not true have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people they're both for isra he's trying to again divide and and distract from the reality which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on National Security and foreign policy it is well known dictators wants to be a dictator on day one according to himself it is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine it is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine it was brilliant it is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong Un and it is absolutely toally FAL I don't know what she talking that these dictators and autocrats are Ro letters for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery well then why didn't he invade anywhere why didn't Putin invade anywhere when he was president many military leaders who you have does that make honey have told me you are a disgrace that is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not that's should say and wrong on National Security including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military vice president Harris thank you they're the ones and she's the one that caused it that's weak or National Security by allowing Every Nation last month for the year 168 different countries sending people into our country their crime weights are way down Putin endorsed her last week said I hope she wins and I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with absolutely incredible it wouldn't have happened with me she's blushing other countries think that they're weak and incompetent and they are they're grossly incompetent and I just ask one question why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal that Russia's ever made nordstream 2 the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going to Germany and all over Europe because they're weak and they're ineffective and Biden by the way gets paid a lot of money thank you we have a lot of issues to get to we'll be right back with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the national Constitution Center right here in Philadelphia back in a moment so guys how so does the debate debate go to 10:30 does the bait go to 10:30 or 11: it might go to 11 they have they went an hour without a break there she is favored in the debate and she's still losing yeah this debate went pretty much exactly how I thought it was going to go at least at the start you're not VP why not fix I but you want her to respond to that you want her to be forced to respond to you're not VP fix it now Trump is kicking your ass guys listen this is what's going to happen it goes till 11: yeah it makes sense this all the this is exactly what's going to happen all the Republicans are going to say Trump won the narrative for Trump is that he's angry I know that oh it's only 90 minutes there's no point in doing a poll dude these are all Trump supporters let's be honest come on well obviously he was going to lose abortion I guys I do have to go to the bathroom I'm sorry I do want to react to this I'm going to give a full reaction after it but I do have to e e yeah I didn't have to I didn't have to [ __ ] man I didn't have to [ __ ] Trump isn't doing very well dude I the the thing that I was pissed at Trump at I'm not gonna lie I was pissed at Trump talk about Zuckerberg it's such a layup Zuckerberg gave Democrats $400 million and then just admitted in a letter that they Democrats manipulated the 2020 election Zuckerberg said in a letter that Democrats manipulated the 2020 election but no I mean it is what it is yeah Trump is uh I didn't realize how biased the moderators would be I mean I don't think Trump's losing but listen again this is Republican versus Democrat let's be honest I don't think this is you know obviously nearly as obvious as the Biden vers Trump debate was we're going to have to see all of the reaction and everything like that election odds were- 120 to minus 110 um I mean that's a very slight move who's winning over Independence I don't know I guess we'll have to see at the post debate polls Trump's doing well she's going to win the debate pole like 7030 it would I don't think so I mean I don't see how Trump's losing honestly I I don't understand moderators yeah moderators are I I didn't realize the moderators were going to be this bad how much did you like trbs Kamala I'm speaking it was an epic moment it was an epic moment yeah I did see that I did see that uh 100% cover I I saw that what they were saying about how he covers Harris vers Trump Pennsylvania Here Again David M and Lindsey Davis David M welcome back to this historic ABC News presidential debate tonight we're going to continue here and I want to turn to the war in Ukraine we're now two and a half years into this conflict Mr President it has been the position of the Biden Administration that we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin to defend their sovereignty their democracy that it's in America's best interest to do so arguing that if Putin wins he may be embolden to move even further into other countries you have said you would solve this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight do you want Ukraine to win this War I want the war to stop I want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the millions it's the millions it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are fake numbers look we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask Europe which is a much bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are they're in for $150 billion less because Biden and you don't have the courage to ask Europe like I did with NATO they paid billions and billions hundreds of billions of dollars when I said either you pay up or we're not going to protect you anymore so that's maybe one of the reasons they don't like me as much as they like weak people but you take a look at what's happening we're in for 250 to 275 billion they're into 100 to 150 they should be forced to equiz already Trump I want to get the War settled I know zinski very well relationship po Market is manipulated it gets manipulated respect respect Biden how would you respect him why for what reason he hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin hasn't spoken to anybody they don't even try and get it that is a war that's dying to be settled I will get it settled before I even become president if I win when I'm President elect and what I'll do is I'll speak to one I'll speak to the other I'll get them together that war would have never happened and in fact when I saw Putin after I left unfortunately left because our our country has gone to hell but after I left when I saw him building up soldiers he did it after I left I said oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because Biden had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to World War II don't kid yourself David we're playing with World War III and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where is our president we don't even know if he's a president just to clarify they threw him out of a campaign like a dog we don't even know is he our president but we have a president that doesn't know he's alive your time is up with just to clarify in the question do you believe it's in the US best interests for Ukraine to win this war yesterday it's the US best interest to get this war finished and just get it done negotiate a deal because have to stop all of these human lives from being destroyed I want to take this to vice president Harris I want to get your thoughts on support for Ukraine in this moment but also as commander-in-chief if elected how would you deal with Vladimir Putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from President Biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running against Joe Biden you're running against me because they installed you I believe that Donald Trump says that this war would be over Within hours is because he would just give it up and that's not who we are as Americans let's understand what happened here um I actually zinski say Trum a few days before Russia invaded tried through Force to change territorial boundaries to defy one of the most important International rules and Norms which is the importance of sovereignty and territorial integrity and I met with President zansky I shared with him American intelligence about how he could defend himself days later I went to NATO's Eastern flank to Poland and Romania and through the work that I and others did we brought 50 countries together to support Ukraine in its righteous defense and because of our support because of the air defense the ammunition the artillery the javelins the Abrams tanks that we have provided Ukraine don't be manipulated by poly Market that's a bunch of liberals big whale liberals putting money on har and manipulate like she's understand what that would mean because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine understand why the European allies and our NATO allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance of the greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have done and simp to preserve the ability ofi and the ukrainians to fight for their independence other wise Putin would be sitting in keev with his eyes on the rest of Europe starting with Poland 800,000 polish Americans here in Pennsylvania how quickly you would give up for the sake of favor and what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president Harris thank you we've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight Afghanistan came up I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier please I'll I'll give you a minute here well they view it as different in Moscow it's not 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in Moscow quiet place he would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got a thing that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons they don't ever talk about that he got nuclear weapons nobody ever thinks about that the DNC is paying to influence people with Market by betting on Harris but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about no way it's clear that she's wi this so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started she was the Emissary they sent her in to negotiate with zalinski and Putin and she did and the war started three days later and that's the kind of with she's worse than Biden in my opinion I think he's the worst president in the history of our country she goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country but let me tell you something she is a horrible negotiator they sent her in to negotiate as soon as they left Putin did The Invasion president Trump thank you you did bring up something said negotiate president Harris have you ever met Vladimir Putin can you clarify tonight again I said it at the beginning of this debate you're going to hear a bunch of Lies coming from this fellow and that is another one you've just blatantly lied like three times this is what these liberals do the reality is it has been about standing as America always should as a leader upholding International Norms as a leader who shows strength understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strong men instead of caring about democracy and that is very much zero votes that was really democ the president of the United States is commanderin-chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility it was really significant when you got that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery we've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin I do want to talk about Afghanistan it came up in in the first hour of this debate I I I wanted to move on to Afghanistan Stenberg said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen he got these countries the 28 countries at the time to pay up he said I've never seen he's the head of NATO he said I've never seen for years we were paying almost all of NATO we were being ripped off by European nations both on trade and on NATO I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't pay we're not going to protect you otherwise we would have never gotten it he said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done thank you I want to turn to Afghanistan came up in the first hour of the debate and we witnessed a moment today on Capitol Hill H in the chaotic withrawal from Afghanistan I do want to ask the vice president uh do you believe you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out well I will tell you I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan four presidents said they would and Joe Biden did and as a possible America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day we were paying for that endless war and as of today there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat Z in any war zone around the world the first time this Century but let's understand how we got after the 13 to where we are Donald Trump when he was president negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine he calls himself a dealmaker even his National Security advisor said it was a weak terrible deal and here's how it went down he bypassed the Afghan government he negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban the negoti involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorist Taliban terrorists released and get this no get this and the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David a place of storyed significance for us as Americans a place where we honor the importance of American diplomacy where we invite and receive respected world leaders and this former president yeah we got to get out invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United stat bid to go to Camp commander-in-chief with a level of respect and this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military fallen soldiers and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world vice president Harris thank you president Trump your response to her saying that you began the negotiations the Taliban so if you take a look at that period of time the Taliban was killing our soldiers a lot of them with snipers and I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing that's the Fighting Force within Afghanistan they don't bother doing that because you know they deal with the wrong people all the time but I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban he is still the head of the Taliban and I told Abdul don't do it anymore you do it anymore you're going to have problems and he said why do you send me a picture of my house I said you're going to have to figure that out Abdul and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo it was a very good agreement the reason it was good it was we were getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers we wouldn't have left many Americans behind we wouldn't have left we wouldn't have left $85 billion dollar worth of brand new beautiful military equipment behind and just to finish they blew it the agreement said you have to do this this this this this and they didn't do it they didn't do it the agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to do and these people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are President Trump thank you I want to move on now to race politics in this country Mr President you recently said a vice president Harris quote I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and they bring this up of course they bring this up I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent yeah here's the and I don't care I don't care what she is I don't care yes uh you're make a big deal out of something I couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me yes but those were your words so I shut it down all I could say I read where she was not black that she put out and I'll say that and then I read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me that's up to her that's up to her president Harris your thoughts on this he just shut it down I think it's I mean honestly I think it's a a tragedy that we have um someone who it's a tragedy that we've Ru the country because of you consistently over the course of his career the border is a tragedy attempted to use race to divide the American people you know I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us and we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and especially by race and let's remember how Donald Trump started he was a trump had a great answer there they just shut that dude down land he owned land buildings and he he was investigated he refused to rent now she's rambling black families let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of five here it is play the greatest Ino boys who were innocent the Central Park 5 took out a full page ad calling for their execution this is the same individual bring up her PR bring up bir or lies about first black president of the United States and I think the American people want better than that want better than this want someone who understands as I do I travel our country we see in each other but you we see in each other a neighbor we don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans Point their fingers at each other I meet with people all the time who tell me it is have discourse about I invest in the aspirations and the Ambitions and the dreams of the American people knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks we all have the same dreams and aspirations and Want a President Who invest in those not in hate and division this is all so fake thank you Lindsay president Trump this is now your third jargon slogans this is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country there's never been anything like it they're destroying our country and they come up with things like what she just said going back many many years when a lot of people including May Bloomberg agreed with me me on the Central Park 5 they admitted they said they pled guilty and I said well if they plad guilty they'd badly hurt a person killed a person ultimately and if they pled guilty then they plad were not guilty but this is a person that has to stretch back years 40 50 years ago because there's nothing now I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world and I'm going to build it again it's going to be bigger better and stronger but they're destroying our economy they have no idea what a good economy is their oil policies every single policy and remember this she is Biden you know she's trying to get away from Biden I don't know the gentleman she says she is Biden the worst inflation we've ever had a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad and she can't get away with that thank you your time is up I want to respond to that though I want to just respond briefly clearly he should have moved it on I'm not Joe Biden and I am certainly not Donald Trump and what I do offer is a new generation of leadership she got the questions before and I I think that was confirmed in what is possible one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always disparaging the American talk about the economy at the start I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses which is why I have a plan let's talk about our plans then do something and let's compare the plans I have a plan yes you cop it fromb $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their Ambitions their innovation ideas their hard work plan $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's did you end the border wall to help you in that most critical stage of your child's development I have a plan about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance for firsttime home buyers that's the kind of conversation I believe people really want tonight as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling let's turn the page hasn't done that t to move on President Trump let's turn to policy please to defund the police she has a plan to confiscate everybody's gun if you have a plan why won you talk about it in an interview Pennsylvania or anywhere else that's what her plan is until just recent I just need former president has said something twice that I need to respond to I'm sorry we're we're going to move on vice president president Trump this is now your third time running for president you have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act also known as Obamacare you have failed to accomplish that you now say you're going to keep Obamacare quote unless we can do something much better last month this is going to 11 on it so tonight nine years after you first started running do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is Obamacare was lousy healthc care always was it's not very good today and what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things we're going to do it and we're going to replace it but remember this I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it they wouldn't vote for it they were unanimous they wouldn't vote to change it if they would have done that we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare but the market is being manipulated vot for I had a choice to make when I was President do I save it and make it as good as it can be never going to be great or do I let it rot and I felt I had an obligation even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away I decided and I told my people the top people and they very good people I have a lot of good people in this that Administration we read about the bad ones we had some real bad ones too and so do they they have really bad ones the difference is they don't get rid of them but let me just explain I had a choice to make do I save it and make it as good as it can be or do I let it rot and I saved it I did the right thing but it's still never going to be great and it's too expensive for people and what we will do is we're looking at different plans if we can come up with a plan that's going to to cost our people our population less money and be better health care than Obamacare then I would absolutely do it but until then I'd run it as good as it can be run so just yes or no you still do not have a plan I have concepts of a plan I'm not president right now but if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something that's better and less expensive and there are Concepts and options we we have to do that you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future vice president Harris in 2017 you supported Bernie Sanders proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run Health Care System two years later you proposed a plan that included a private insurance opid what is your plan today well first of all I absolutely support and over the last four years as vice president private healthcare options but what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act but I I I'll get to that Lindsay I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made I've made very clear my position on fracking and then this business about taking everyone's guns away Tim Walls and I are both gun owners we're not taking anybody's guns away so stop with the continuous lying about this stuff what about lying about abortion and wan to b f understand just look at the history to know where people stand when Donald Trump was President 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act 60 times I was a Senator at the time when I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late great John McCain who you have disparaged as being you don't like him you said at the time because he got caught he was an American hero the late great John McCain I will never forget that night walked onto the senate floor and said no you don't no you don't no you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act you have no plan plan and what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions I don't have to tell the people watching tonight you remember what that was like remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma if someone was a breast cancer survivor if a if a grandparent had diabetes a gun owner and thankfully they wanted to be more Rel president and we last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you the American people Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices he never did we did and now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month since I've been Vice President we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year and when I am President we will do that for all people understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it and the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act not get rid of it in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot made a mistake and number one John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years but it wasn't only him it were all of the Democrats that kept it going and you know what we can do much better than Obamacare much less money but she won't improve private insurance for people private medical insurance that's another thing she doesn't want to get people are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they want to have private she wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation that you need immediately president Trump thank you we have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans in particular younger voters and that's climate change president Trump with regard to the environment you say that we have to have clean air and clean water vice president Harris you call climate change an existential threat the question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change and vice president Harris we'll start with you one minute for you each well the former president had said the climate change is a hoax and what we know is that it is very real you ask anyone who lives in a state who has right that's why you wanted to these extreme weather occurrences who now is either being denied home insurance or it's being jacked up up you ask anybody who has been um the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home having nowhere to go we know that we can actually deal with this issue the young people of America care deeply about this issue and I am proud that as vice president over the last four years we have invested a trillion dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production to Historic levels we have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been Vice President we have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the world Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs he lost manufacturing jobs and I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Shan feain who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American made products American automobiles it includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up Auto plants not closing them like happened under Donald Trump president Harris thank you that didn't happen to Donald Trump let me just tell you they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month it's going they're all leaving uh they're building big Auto plants in Mexico in many cases owned by China they're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars into the United States because of these people what they have given to China is unbelievable but we're not going to let that we'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill the United Auto Workers and any auto worker whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina or any other place what they've done to business and Manufacturing in this country is horrible we have nothing because they they refuse you know Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid a millions of dollars he's afraid to do it between him and his son they get all this money from Ukraine they get all this money from all of these different countries and then you wonder why is he so loyal to this one that one Ukraine China why is he why did he get three5 million doar from the mayor of moscow's wife why did he get why did she pay him $3.5 million this is a crooked Administration and they're selling our country down the tubes president Trump thank you thank you we'll be right back with closing statements from both of our candidates in historic night this ABC News presidential debate from Philadelphia back in a moment oh I guess it I guess it only goes till 10:45 does it only go till 10:45 then the ABC News president Trump trump is trending back up in P market after the manipulation that people fell for Trump is losing yeah no he's not the moderators the mo the moderators are a lot worse than CNN I I I am a little bit H I guess maybe not surprised but I didn't think the moderators would be this this bad TR is definitely winning the second well the second half was more more of the less hot button topics to be fair yeah I mean I think that's what we're going to get a lot of people saying different things I don't see how people think he's doing bad well they're they're liberals obviously they think he's doing bad You Can Tell She's inexperienced at debating well I mean they did report that she basically memorized everything I feel it's a tie Trump still going to Landslide yeah I mean that's that's what you'll get with this type of stuff with these debates there mainly that it's oh the Republicans think Trump won the Democrats think Harris won and we'll have to see where where what the independent say next debate should be on Sky News Australia that's not GNA happen I have seen them on YouTube they have a lot of they're like a republican thing though who's winning on poly Market Harris she did all right she didn't crash yeah she did better than Biden that's what they're going to say loving the coverage and the restraint in commenting but yeah you know kept overt talking too much yeah I'm trying not to overt talk I do get uh people say that I do over talk I'm trying to be better about not overt talking I know people want to listen to the debate and everything like that normally I'll just overtalk with Harris more so than Trump unless you know I think Trump should have mentioned Zuckerberg what chances do you think Trump to win pres president like right now my my chances I think I think they're very high I think Trump's going to win for sure he needs to bring up the 51 FBA I know dude I don't know what that was man I mean that would be one of the things I think it's a missed opportunity when you've got something on a silver pider like that that just came out that's got to be mentioned I don't think neither one had a good debate h i mean it's all subjective you know we're are you a democrat or a republican it's going to depend on that who you think's Trump up in poly Market yeah up from like maybe five minutes ago but I mean I think poly Market was heavily manipulated listen poly Market is like oh you know Harris won the debate why because poly Market said so well who's betting on poly Market these are democratic whales remember the poly Market was manipulated about three days ago I remember somebody tell this actually happened three days ago someone said whoa Trump went down 4% in in po Market how'd that happen well it was because there's another prop you can do where it's like will Camala Harris or Trump be leading on X day and so if if it's looking like Trump's going to be leading the odds for Harris leading are going to be low and then what they'll do is they'll bet a bunch of money on Harris and then it'll bring her up it's it's all manipulation but that's what Here Again David mure and Lindsey Davis that's something that it's per back tonight the time has come for closing statements and vice president Harris we begin with you so I think you've heard tonight two very different Visions for our country one that is focused on the future and the other that is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward but we're not going back and I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us and we can chart a new way forward and a vision of that includes having a plan understanding the aspirations the dreams the hopes the ambition the Amer people which is why I intend to create opportunity economy investing in small businesses in new families in what we can do around protecting seniors what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks are break and bringing down the cost of living all meaningless I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell her what to do I'll tell you I started my career as a prosecutor I was a DA I was an attorney general a United States Senator and now Vice President I've only have one client the people and I'll tell you as a prosecutor I never asked a victim or a witness are you a Republican or a Democrat the only thing I ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of President we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you the American people vice president Harris thank you president Trump so she just started by saying she's going to do this she's going to do that she's going to do all these wonderful things why hasn't she done it she's been there for three and a half years they've had three and A2 years to fix the Border they've had three and A2 years to I'll all the things we talked about why hasn't she done it she should leave right now go down to that beautiful white house go to the capital get everyone together and do the things you want to do but you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American people don't believe in you believe in things like we're not going to Frack we're not going to take fossil fuel we're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong whether you like it or not Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants we're not ready for it we can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad Vision but I just ask one simple question why didn't she do it we're a failing Nation We're a nation that's in serious decline we're being laughed at all over the world all over the world they're laugh I know the very well they're coming to see me they call me we're laughed at all over the world they don't understand what happened to us as a nation we're not a leader we don't have any idea what's going on we have wars going on in the Middle East we have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine we're going to end up in a third world war and it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons the power of Weaponry I rebuilt our entire military she gave a lot of it away to the Taliban she gave it to Afghanistan what these people have done to our country and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions of people to come into our country many of them are criminals and they're destroying our country the worst president the worst vice president in the history of our country president Trump thank you and that is our ABC News pres surprised by those twoing stats Philadelphia Center I'm stand and I'm David mure thank you for watching here in the US and all over the world and from all of us here at ABC News good night [Music] oh this spin is gonna be crazy I don't even know if I should do this to myself our post debate comments it was a lively debate I might want to go to CNN and actually watch their reaction to Afghanistan these people are old and they're they're they're they're they're they're they're done I don't really care what they have to say I do want to see how how they spin this this will be great well this is what I'll say I can pretty much guarantee I do want to actually get some reaction on a we can get some reaction live can we get reaction to this Ben Shapiro going at the moderators going at the moderators yeah they're they're talking about being a 3v one White House contact tells be ABC now worri about being shut out of trump White House should he win following these ambish tactics moderators I mean see Dave porner I don't even know why he's talking about this that's it I'm voting for Trump yeah they're just going after the moderators it looks like Oh I thought they were streaming yeah they'll probably be streaming some reaction who won I think it's definitely it's it's to me this is definitely Trump people are going to say Trump one Harris people are going to say Harris one they kept cutting off Trump well they said three or four times they they made a note to say things when he would say something oh it's false and then Harris did the exact same thing and I even said during one of the the times I was like they need to make a note that she's lying there and of course they didn't say it the problem is what they'll do is they'll focus on it and they'll say just to clarify what you just said was not true but then they don't do it to Paris that's the problem real talk this changes no one's Minds I know that's that's going to be the narrative Camala won but I don't think she made herself look a whole lot better I don't think much is going to change and I I I know you're I I've seen you in the chat man I I I respect your opinion too if you think Harris won I mean I I respect that but I mean I don't think any I saw anything to where Harris won or I mean I I I mean I I I still just don't hear any any actual policy Trump is getting killed on poly Market yeah it's manipulated you realize that right they're trying to influence your opinion I know Harris had they both were but it's just like it's just all such [ __ ] like nothing's ever going to change with that with her it's the same thing as Biden live betting odds they're both at 49% why are the odds on poly Market blowing up it's because liberal whales are betting on Kamala to try and influence your opinion about the debate any thoughts on the whole debate I wasn't surprised I thought there were a few moments that that Trump could have really this this is going to be the narrative I know this is going to be the narrative Trump was too negative that's going to be their narrative Trump sounds always negative he's an old man I heard people saying that in the debate too what is there no freaking reaction to this from CNN do you know they're going to say she won I wanted to see what their reaction was oh God and then this doesn't work all of a sudden dude this ad blocker is a dog [ __ ] look at this clown not about Joe Biden not about herself but about Donald Trump and that led to her Advantage so again many of the uh surrogates are coming in right now Governors uh senators from different uh parties we're going to be talking them throughout the night I'm going to send it back to you guys in the studio right now all right Tom thanks let's bring in Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro he's a Democrat representing the haris campaign I mean who gives a [ __ ] about this then I want to hear what the analysts have to say she's trying to reach this very small group of undecided voters Independents who may not like all of her policies who may be interested in some of the things but I mean what did she say of any substance that is really different I mean you want to know the other thing that was a problem you want to know the other thing that was a problem for Trump zero mention of the one zero mention of the one interview you've got to talk about that that's so important she was talking about being presidential you've done one interview what are you talking about you've done one interview you're talking about being presidential you really think you're up for the job you didn't win a single vote and you've done one interview with Tim Waltz right next to you and he looked like a lap dog third grader sitting there waiting to be pet that should have been mentioned I mean I don't know what what what of substance did she say that was really good Trump should have said he should have brought up Shapiro yeah that could have been another attack line Trump should have said you endorse the wall too you should have said that as well what topic were you surprised that wasn't covered I think they pretty much were all covered I there were points that I was surprised that Trump did not bring up though that's what I would say and you know what they they could have easily brought that up as well but they didn't bring any of it up they said why are you why aren't you know they the moderators could have said this a big topic why are you hiding from the media yeah she was getting terot there towards the end he did have some good he did have when he said I'm speaking that was a moment that that was that was a moment that was a good moment overall the debate will not matter no I know they'll say we're coping but no that is true there was a lot of things that he could have said and never said well those are big ones what about the Zuckerberg that was huge and they were talking about it too and he's like for example you want to talk about manipulated with the election we just had a liberal who donated $400 million to the Democrats admit that the FBI told big Tech to censor a story that negatively affected Joe Biden and was the number one biggest October surprise so that should have been brought up didn't really hear any policy she has an ear I mean maybe under her earrings Harris appealed to her voter base of never trumpers yeah I mean but all those people are always going to hate Trump anyways well you guys saw what she was doing I think she kind of stopped doing it because maybe the maybe the topics were more boring but like her whole thing was she would be really animated when Trump would say something that I guess she didn't like she'd like have a sarcastic smile like a real sarcastic smile or like they have her doing those mamis Ms or whatever this was a nothing Brer the debate uh she look scared the whole time she looked like she was about to cry the whole time I don't know if it was from the camera or what Trump should have mentioned Hunter Biden more yeah I mean but what they'll say is oh it's desperation she's not running he's not running against you you're you're not running against Biden that's what they'll say anyone who says Camala won please tell me how so they'll say Vibes and it's it's all it's all [ __ ] fake [ __ ] oh she's she's more positive than him that's why she won why didn't he lead with the closing statement off the top that's that was my point originally I said he should have said that that if she was going to do this why hasn't she done it to make her answer that but he did it with his closing statement and they have I don't say her because she has no policy everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window she's going to My Philosophy now in fact I was going to send her a Maga hat she's gone to My Philosophy there it is if she ever got elected she'd change it and it will be the end of our country she's a Marxist everybody knows she's a Marxist her father's a Marxist professor in economics and he taught her well but when you look at what she's done to our country this is what was doing millions and millions of people going into our country monthly where it's I believe 21 million people not the 15 that people say and I think it's a lot higher than the 21 that's bigger than New York State pouring in and just look at what they're doing to our country they're Jesse Walters said it well Democrats think she did well Republicans will say he did well yeah yeah we certainly didn't get a Biden type debate to be fair it's a strong closing statement I know but you wanted to respond to that it's such a pathetic thing Trump did I know I don't think Trump really insulted her that like that crazy honestly yeah she didn't mention anything about unrealized gains that's funny she didn't mention anything about price scouching I thought that was one of her top policies that she was talking about was price scouching and of course it sung like a it it floated like a lead balloon so she didn't talk about it a second debate was already scheduled wait did you did that just happen because I don't think that's true it hasn't officially been scheduled Trump got so angry the second half well he was he was pretty angry throughout the entire thing Trump yeah Trump had better moments in the first half but the second half was kind of more more like in terms of political sense it was more boring topics because it was like it was Medicare things like that there's no sense in me doing a poll man it's like Elon mus doing a I mean it just doesn't make any sense Trump's gonna win the poll we know that assuming there's a second debate I feel Trump might be playing some 40 chess and holding I don't know about that I I I don't think he's really holding many cards honestly I don't think he would he would take that risk it's such an important debate there's no way you you hold cards like that that that reminds me of like football we're teams oh we're holding plays back you know yeah but there might be another debate on NBC they're saying September 20 really that's the date September 25th on which network yeah I know the VP debates October 1st there isn't another debate there might be we don't know yet yeah poly Market is manipulated remember it was manipulated three days ago but it doesn't even matter honestly if it's manipulated or not it's tied ABC way too biased I know that I mean I I went to just the First Reactions and there was a bunch of conservatives you know angry Charlottesville they mentioned that again yeah I mean Trump needs to say that Snopes worst attack on no well you want to know what they'll say is they'll say 911 was not about an attacking democracy so that's how they're able to word that like that you think Cala will want another debate down well if your angle is she won the debate why would she want another one why wouldn't you just say well if I won I want to quit while I'm ahead you know so I mean there's strategies to it if you if you think that's why Tennessee Oklahoma that'll be a good game I'd say Tennessee next debate should be on Fox she won't do it that's another thing he should have brought up it's embarrassing she won't debate on Fox again it's is like the arrogance she has is so crazy I'm just you know it's ridiculous yeah they didn't fact checker on any of it it is sad it it is bias I mean there even lias have to say it's bias it is bias September 25th NBC but she won't show show up to do it we'll have to see Trump did the most damag Harris overperformed expectations uh I don't know man I mean she's been a politician for a while I I don't think I mean she did better than Biden if you want me to say that you know it's like how low are the expectations ABC ran a poll for the debate and had 92% chance Trump won was it on YouTube though because that's a biased poll her mic was not muted the first half um yeah but it I don't think it was really that big of a deal I mean it I I thought it was muted thoughts on the importance of the VP debate I feel like I I don't think the VP debate's all that important unfortunately Benny Johnson says Trump did incredible yeah I I I can't I don't think Trump did incredible I mean I think you know some people are saying that Harris won I really don't think so but um yeah this is a pretty crazy graph V Virginia's governor and dors made her case for Lift yeah this was something that they always talk about this clip they barely cut Camala off at all well part of that is her just not not trying to respond as well well to be fair but no they were very biased I know when he said I'm speaking dude it was like a surreal moment God I need to find that clip I need that clip has got to be on here maybe Benny Johnson tweeted it out or what did JD V say effectively echoing platitude after platitude after platitude uh the American people can't pay their grocery bills on platitudes they can't this is correct that's exactly what she's doing put their kids in a house on platitudes and Kam Harris had a lot to say but very little actual substance behind it for how she's going to lower grocery prices secure the border and make housing more affordable in this country she's been the vice president for three and a half years she can't run on her record and she apparently can't run on much of her plans either because it's yeah no do you think the de bate will affect the polls I would say no Trump lost the debate bad hope it doesn't affect he didn't lose the debate that's a liberal gaslighting me I mean if you want to argue that may that if you're a liberal that maybe he lost the debate but come on if you think he lost the debate bad you're a liberal I mean there was there was no crazy moment where oh she gets she got him Harris was yeah she she did look a little bit nervous do all these wonderful things why had mandatory buyback but now yeah where's that moment though I don't think we're going to find that moment what is the difference between Trump Bas how is it baselessly claiming it when he's talked to both Putin and zalinsky and they've said they'll have conversations with him how is that basically that's absurd how is that it's not basic basically I mean he's possibly going to do it he's talked to both zalinski and and Putin about ending the war they've already had conversations about it so it's not baseless so I I don't understand what you're talking about she lost big time with all the lies well I mean Fox is saying Harris one big well that's [ __ ] Trump did not lose it's on a YouTube short Trump Legend status dude why does this dude can't argue she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies like she was big on defund the police in Minnesota she went out wait a minute I'm talking now if you don't mind please does that sound familiar Mr Vice President speaking I have I'm speaking does that sound familiar oh man you see the part where he said Camala put out um I mean I watched the entire thing what do you mean put out like as in with the bill Willie Willie Brown stuff Benny boy D dude dude's always got like the awkwardness before he's always got the awkwardness haris smiling when talking about Trump being prosecuted as a bad look she's feeding into the narrative for National Security crimes well did Lun do a poll this tweet will make Trump supporters lose their minds but kudos to the moderators for covering a wider range of topics than most debates perhaps because it was the only debate this cycle well I mean they were biased I mean I think everyone has to admit that ABC News did reach out to the city manager there uh he told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed injured or AB but why would this not happen that's what I'm trying to wonder when you import migrants from third world countries do you think it's just going to be a Kumbaya like can we not least be honest about this like what do you like like oh my God Taylor Swift endorses H she's not going to endorse anyone I don't think I know people keep saying that Taylor and Britney Mahomes Rift who cares Taylor backtracked I mean who cares man both of them got Diggs in it was good times for well I will say they did do a longer debate than Biden and Trump did they they went like basically an hour 40ish if you factor maybe an hour 35 if you factor in the breaks or maybe maybe it was an hour 30 but it was it was longer it felt like poly Market lowered Trump three points well poly Market didn't do that uh Democratic shills did that they dumped a bunch of money on Harris to influence public opinion that would be my guess the fact that it would move that quickly that fast come on there's no definitive oh gotcha moment that like oh she crushed Trump that doesn't exist in this debate it was Democratic operatives at around 9:00 9:15 right when the debate started they put a bunch of money in for Harris to influence public opinion let's be I I mean it started moving at like 910 yeah people have got to stop stop lying about that can show the video of the I mean that video has been circulating forever uh I mean I'll see if I can find it again it was a two-minute video though it's not like a quick thing let's see this Trump makes a point that I hope everyone hears Russia has nuclear weapons yeah I mean I'm surprised Trump didn't talk more about that because that's something that liberals never even they never addressed the fact that you know there's no policy I really wish Trump would have just say all right what are you g to do how is the war gon to end exactly they they they have no answer they're just going to keep funding Ukraine next for the Fox News debate I don't I don't wait is the VP debate on on Fox news or no which part of the debate did Trump do best in uh I don't know there were a few good moments a few things that he mentioned that I want that I that I wanted him to say uh I'm speaking moment the mods never question the crimes illegal immigrants done to women no that would be racist Ernie that would be racist man you can't talk about that come on that's racist man come on even if yeah Swift would only have like girls like younger girls that might come out and vote that would be who it would be they would just follow her SW you're you're stopping the trolling on that man seriously it's it's it's dumb Trump answers to the race I know thankfully that was 100% one of his people told him to say that which is fine I I'm thankful for it but yeah 100% he shut that down and then she really didn't have an answer after that she was going to do the whole Guilt Trip Trip thing how he's racist and everything and she kind of didn't have an answer because he shut it down thankfully thoughts on the body language that's a good question it was very calculated very calculated because she couldn't do the I'm speaking she couldn't do the interruption they thought they think the next best thing is to you know do the the funny body language which I think is pretty weak but that's that's that was their strategy obviously it does start to make me wonder if that debate was more of a setup because they did interrupt pretty frequently in this one CNN said it was a tie is that true Trump had an epic closing speech yeah I mean I thought he should have brought out that you haven't done anything earlier 92% Trump won with 92% in terms of it people are telling me Trump won the debate according to Independence and that and and that they just they rigged P Market with manipulation this was rough I think Trump won slightly but ABC was a joke yeah ABC was real bad very sad to see certainly I don't think it's 92% Trump over Harris in terms of trump winning was that a YouTube poll though Trump is not the greatest debater I agree with you there but he made the points he needed to make and see like a more serious leader winning the post debate spin is important Trump's campaign months emphasize 3on one well you know what Steve I have just seen a wall of Republican influencers talking about three onone so so that is clearly what they're doing you're right I thought it was my best debate ever Trump reflecting on it especially thinks it was three on one Trump did not want to shake kamala's hand um at the beginning that was kind of awkward yeah she did go over to him thought she seemed kind of of course she's condescending Trump will have a lot more good right exactly that's another thing it's like what did where was where's her good Clips I I don't understand it anyone have post debate polls that that are like from a reputable Source at all do you think that Trump walked into a trap coming on ABC for the well well he has to I mean he's got no choice they won't debate on conservative networks he should not have fell for aess but I think he had a lot of good parts you mean points yeah I mean I don't know what traps he fell for but there were a few things that he shouldn't have said like just dragging on conversation when it didn't need to need to be drug on longer it's too early for serious polls yeah but they do snap polls after leading report As Trump leading on polls dude we got it leading report well I mean dude come on I mean this well it's over disappointingly no headit on Kamala you're right 100% you're right she didn't talk about taxes one Trump needs to force that conversation and she weasles her way out of it and then talks about all the government handouts she's going to give how's that going to happen is it just is more money magically going to up I think it was 5050 and the only loser is ABC that that's a that's a that's an understandable take that's a fair take Trump should have brought up yeah of course why she wouldn't to bat on Fox it's such a coward move especially from somebody that didn't even win fair and square the primary and was installed she lied on almost everything well they all they both are going to lie a lot during it well now it actually is uh the next debate is not going to be on Fox News she won't agree to it of where things do stand in the Rays she Kamala Harris appears to be writing notes well that is true [Laughter] dude Alex Jones comes out with a pull of course are we gonna get a new poll from I don't do polls I I don't do polls man Trump is an excellent debater I think there's things that Trump could improve on swifted yeah I mean dude Mark if you start seeing people multiple times say it you can just you can just get rid of them it's just you know it's it's it's an unfortunate situation you can just cut the fat you can trim the fat off of the chat political polls that account really someone needs to fact truck well she probably dude probably her husband is a gun owner or something and she tries to appear more she has to appear more uh for the people sorry Trump was not excellent but Cala was clearly scripted and in my opinion she knew the questions were coming well yeah I mean they had said she was preparing a literal script with Q cards it was her night that's what fox said it was her night come on Trump should hold a rally in Springfield Ohio that'd be funny why am I banned off your chat well how are you banned if you if you were banned you would be you would I wouldn't see your message buddy she bodied him did did did CNN tell you that I'm sorry I I got to start trolling these people back they are eating pets why don't you go live with the migrants if you like them so much man go go live with them man come on that's the least you can do you got too much white guilt how unfair were the moderators well they were obviously unfair they were trying to make Trump look bad they didn't fact check her she said hundreds of things that were false there was even a moment during it that um there was a moment during it where I was like okay they're gonna say something about this they never once said anything about her they said four or five different times I just have to fat check that or I just have to say this is provenly false they said it at least three times they said it three times I'm a trump fan but I think Cala won in the sense that he didn't land a huge blow the average dummy yeah no no no I agree with you average Dy won't examinate the facts the Dems count on I don't think it was anything crazy but dude let's be honest I don't think he really landed a huge blow against Biden Biden just couldn't talk Biden couldn't talk a lot of duplicates accounts you got to ban them if they're duplicate accounts I didn't think she was that stronger than than than I thought I I didn't think she was that strong in terms of what what did you what was her what was her big Palace what was her big I mean it's it's all just political [ __ ] like we're going to be better you're in office right now what are you talking about why don't you actually address the fact that you're an office right now and why can't you do anything when when you're in office there's just nothing how long before the for SNAP PS normally they're out like right now or maybe in an hour or so opportunity economy I know that's that's the type of stuff I'm talking about Trump being the more senior candidate is finally a good thing any big stories from now until the election will be out by Cala oh dude Alex he's not only the senior candidate this is his third cycle they've got nothing left on him they've got nothing left ABC said no ABC did not say Biden won that debate did they come on Swift actually did endorse come what a [ __ ] what an absolute [ __ ] and Kelsey's a a [ __ ] boy as well Kelsey's even a bigger [ __ ] but no it did seem like that there were a lot of people saying it but I mean wouldn't it be trending I mean why would it not be trending if it actually happened so this was all a setup then oh look at this [ __ ] [ __ ] like many of you I oh this was all a setup this was all a total setup I watched the debate tonight if you haven't already that was a great time to do do your research we can't do any research cuz she listen should I just read this I I just can't get through it I'm not be able to get through it now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on topics that matter to you this is chat GPT as a voter I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their proposed policies and plans for this country recently I was made aware of that AI of me falsely endorsing Donald Trump's presidential run was posted to his site well no that was a meme because you're dumbass supporters are are brain dead and we knew you were going to endorse Kamala I'll be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz I've done my research I've made my choice your research is all yours with love and hope childless cat lady but see they say like childless cat lady like it's a flex when you're 65 years old you're going to be very very sad honey very sad very sad you're going to be very lonely and sad you can have all the money you want you're going to be very sad this was a setup wow this is the exact same thing as poly Market they 1,000% manipulated poly Market 1,000 listen listen listen listen when you look at Poly Market poly Market Le let's go to just the the general the the general average here General average 49 949 what what was that I'm trying to REM remember what I went to all right so this is this is kind of how it moved so you're going to tell me at 9:15 that oh she won so so this is this is 20 minutes into the debate this is 20 minutes into the debate oh she won the debate by so much she's going to move up by by 3% I'm sorry if I missed some of these uh what one's everyone's thoughts on who won like my South Carolina if Trump what is SC South Carolina if Trump comment on oh like your comment if Trump I mean dude listen these are a bunch of trump supporters they're gonna say Trump won this is manipulation with Taylor Swift as well this is total manipulation you know you know what guys I have to go film a video and talk about how bad this is this people need to see this Trump isn't the best debater I'll agree with that Trump's closing marks should have been his opening statement I yeah I I agree he should have made her respond to that I had said he should have done that Harris won but you will see nonsense videos well I mean listen man I think you made a lot of new accounts uh you're going to have to make another new one so go spend 20 minutes you loser make a new account and come back and talk again did I respond to this yes any Pres idential yeah I know but this is totally manipulation this is total manipulation watch me film a vid well then it's not gonna it doesn't get the good HD then when I'm streaming it unfortunately loser trolls no go make your new account go make your new account it's 11:30 at night you have to go make a new account you've got such a great life go make your new account really quickly your life is amazing you make you constantly make new accounts and then I ban you like a little cockroach your life's amazing though that's what guys very successful people make new accounts on Google and then get banned and then keep making them they're the most successful people their net worth is over $20 how did she win uh she didn't win [ __ ] I mean it's like I watched the B I don't know where where did she win exactly but it was all a setup with Taylor Swift it was a total setup who do you think who do you still think's going to win the election I think Trump's going to win the election dude really successful people a new model shows shows Trump one the debate by 50 where what is that what is WP r i oh man what a pathetic setup what a pathetic setup this entire thing was what a total charade Trump's ear looked amazing yeah maybe uh I think they're going to try and do something about that I don't know about Kamala having Better Sound Bites honestly I think liberals would argue the opposite honestly they would say she has better policy that's what they would say no I don't think she had audio earrings on Trump needs to see the setup now too NBC saying he slayed in this debate come on set up to NBC said he did good I doubt that I know that's the thing I mean what what are people expecting actually they were expecting a Biden moment you know what they were expecting a Biden moment I think and it didn't happen so they think she won that's the problem with the Biden stuff TR wins the election with like 312 Taylor Swift yeah she's like childless cat lady well enjoy when you're 70 I don't know if you're going to be you don't know if you're going to be very happy when you're 70 we're not going to get a fox debate it's not going to happen Trump should have asked her to explain her policies he should have said because she kept saying like these are my this is my plan remember she kept saying this is my plan why not say all right if this is your plan and you keep saying it why did you only have one interview she there's no answer for that Trump shouldn't have accepted this well that well that's what they'll do they'll Gaslight Trump and say oh he's backing out of the debate he can't do it when really they're the ones that backed out of the Fox News debate you're an independent can't stand her so you're an independent voter and you thought she had a horrible debate yeah that's that that's what a lot of Independents have come out and said now after all the rigging of of poly market and and the Taylor Swift they're like she's gonna suck during the debate so we have to time we have to time the endorsement from Swift yeah you're right on that CNN was fair and yeah they were not fair in this one this was really sad this is really sad that this has to happen the one interview thing is done that's not how politics work you have to do interviews it's part of the job you have to be open with voters I know for you liberals that's hard you you just want communism I'm just kidding bud I I do I I'm trolling a little bit Independence won't go for her this after yeah I see a lot of Independence shifting to the right after this honestly well I mean you can see the desk ation they had to time the her they had to time the Swift endorsement right after the debate that just shows you how bad it is why didn't he mention you stole my ideal child tax credit now the I know he should have mentioned the border wall there's the her campaign ads have the border wall in it did call her yeah I know he called their father that I think what is Elon tweeting Oh I thought these were ads from from uh I thought I thought those were were AI images from the debate I mean what did Tucker Carlson say about this honestly was it was it he hasn't said anything yet the media like the ABC moderators tonight will run an op to influence the polls but when it all shakes out in a couple weeks few remember tonight's debate it's a bleep blip on the radar Trump did fine Harris didn't pull a Biden yeah I think this is a pretty fair post honestly I do think this is a pretty fair post that's a pretty good summary all right guys I think that's going to do it that was a nice uh nice three and a half hour stream you know they I mean I guess they did go a little bit longer than I thought they were going to but obviously there's a lot of reaction from this I think this is a pretty fair balance post on what's Happening and a lot of manipulation going on things like that so we're going to have to see what what the general sediment is and you know I'm going to have to watch see what the the network say and things like that and be able the reacts to things like that I'll react to it yeah I tried to stay out of the whole debate and let them talk I I didn't really say much during the debate you know I know it might have been boring people wanted but I didn't want to say much there not there's not going to be a debate on foxman there's just it's not going to happen probably nothing changes I agree with you yeah and plus that was a big charade by them to pull that stunt with with Taylor Swift at the end of that debate that's pathetic that they did that that's a buffer that so they they they thought that she was going to do bad so then they they'd bring out the endorsement that's pretty crazy but wow what a lot to what a lot to digest there trub is on Fox uh I don't know Fox probably is not live so I'm not going to be able to watch it season finale whatever can't access X for because you're from Brazil yeah well are you afraid to use a VPN I know though they're going to find you if you use a VPN right exactly the statement was prepared hyd time yeah it but it was totally obvious by the statement it look like cat GPT too it was totally fake I mean it's all fake man she didn't even write I don't think a human wrote that I wouldn't be surprised if that was Chad GPT writing that I'm not I'm not kidding you maybe they they've mixed a few words around all right guys make sure you follow me on X I'm going to end it off here