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I'm Sean fennessy I'm Amanda D and this is the big picture conversation Joe about fall festival season it is upon us I have just returned from The Tell youde Film Festival what film festival did you arrive from Amanda uh the one on my couch that's not true I did I had some film Adventures this weekend I went to the academy Museum oh fun with my 2 and a half-year-old son to see uh Monsters Inc it was honestly really great they do like special calm mornings for kids we did crafts before they don't they keep the volume at level that won't scare a 2 and a half-year-old was this your first time seeing the film Monsters Inc no I saw it when it came out oh okay right cuz it's like early 2000s so I would have you never seen Monsters of course I have I was like come on but there are many animated film by the way we watched 45 minutes and then it was time to leave but it was it was a very sweet program that the academy did and then can I just share like a really heartbreaking thing I told you this I texted you in real time but oh yeah as we were leaving um Knox also really likes the wizard of and so I made a huge parenting error which is without checking I told him that we could go see Dorothy's red slippers and then we asked some very kind people at the Museum where we could find Dorothy slippers and they looked very stricken and they were like I'm so sorry but it's between exhibits and so they're not on display right now and then my child did like the full face melt sad cry like not the fake one you know but the real one where I like start all and then the things start going down and he was just sobbing in my arm just being like Dorothy's shoes Dorothy's shoes I mean we've all been there we've all been there so I experienced the highs and the lows of cinema this weekend well you were participating in the academy game yeah in a way helping helping ampus I also looked at a tremendous number of photos of hot people on the Venice red carpet we can talk about that we'll talk a little bit about Venice obviously neither of us were there this year but there were a number of films that premiered there that are going to be the subject on this show over the next few months tellu ride was amazing it was not the most amazing slate I would say that I've seen in toride history and some of my fears some of my little my angst pref Festival I think were more or less met by the truth of the lineup which was okay the festival itself as usual it's greatest place on Earth you communed with the mountains I not really I didn't really touch any mountains I I stood between the mountains you know the entire Festival takes place in a Slot Canyon uh but man I met so many people so many listeners of the show so many young listeners of the show so many young listeners of the show who said they came to the festival because they've heard me talk about it on the show that's really nice which was amazing I'm I'm I'm not talking like two three like 12 13 14 people were like I'm here cuz I heard you talk about it which is very flattering but also just really cool and you know tell ride is usually a pretty old festival and I felt like I saw a ton of young people there plus the student Symposium I met a ton of students St there just the greatest honestly they do such a cool job honestly I treated like gold at this point it's really really nice I love it there um there were some really great films I'll talk about everything that I saw you can press me on what you think what I'm overheated about what I'm underheated about I have opinions about all of that I also did you see that I put some I did superlatives some awards that you have to give at the end prepared for superlatives great questions thank you um should we start at the top with the big winner of the festival yeah so this is a film that we've both seen yes are we allowed to share I think so the film already played can and tell now it won the Palm Door it won the palm the movie is a Nora a Nora well one it felt like a tell ride this year it felt like there were more people there I don't really know how to say it they say that they sold the same number of tickets that they always sell same number of Patron passes same number of all the things that they it just felt more crowded some of that might have just been you know we're out of covid and the strikes and you know last year was a little bit of a smaller Festival over a longer period of time but every screening of a Nora B on people that I talked to was mobbed people were being turned away left and right and I didn't talk to a single person that saw it there that did not like it we have not talked about this movie yet on the show it's not coming out until October I was thinking we should consider trying to pre-tape our episode because it is kind of the movie of the year and we've both had a chance to see it but this is Shawn Baker's new movie starring Mikey Madison about a stripper dancer sex worker who meets a young the son of a Russian oligarch and magic and teror and Su MH and comedy very funny very fun very energetic movie I was very curious about whether or not the older patrons right were going to click with the movie I think that they did in part because the movie when it starts doesn't really pull any punches it's like this is what kind of movie this is we're in a strip club and I didn't go to see it at the festival because I'd already seen it but I heard no walkouts no grumbling like people seem to really really Vibe with it are you surprised to hear that based on what it is I remember sitting in the room watching it and being like I wonder how this level of nudity and sex will go over with Academy of Voters and then I remembered that poor things was literally last year and obviously poor things is more stylized and has it's like wrapped up in costume drama which is going to make a certain type of voter feel better and I think if the academy can accept poor things and is weirded out by Anora that reflects very poorly on the academy but there's space for it like they you know I me we're all grown-ups it it felt like coming out of this Festival not only is there space for it but it feels like a front runner it feels like there's not a lot of movies that people are agreeing on right now I can't recall a less settled best picture race which maybe we'll talk about later but if you just think back when I got back from Telly rod and you got back from Venice last year we had seen to that point Barbie Oppenheimer the holdovers the zone of Interest Maestro those are all nominated for best picture I think there was there were a few more too that we had seen at that point po things four things as well I saw it tell you and I saw it Venice had we really seen the holdovers yet yeah I saw hold overs tell oh that's right and I was like oh okay so you know it felt like it maybe the Slate wasn't settled lives past lives we'd already seen which came out much earlier in the year so you know seven eight nine of the movies that were going to be on the list we'd already seen this year I had multiple conversations with people trying to game out what's going to be there and there people who feel really strongly that you know Dune part 2 is locked in there like maybe Challengers can make a comeback we hadn't seen a couple of other movies that played at Venice yet but this is the one movie now that everyone's like this is great this is a great film and I don't want to say anything else we'll talk more about it on the show in the future but um it was agreed upon this is the one Festival movie the other one that's lurking is Sing Sing which yes is just still in limited like what are we doing I have not understood the release I talked to a bunch of people about that this week I was like so you guys put it in 100 theaters then 200 theaters and 300 theaters then 200 theaters and 100 theaters and it's gone like what was what was that move I don't understand everybody I know who seen it really likes it so it's been a very odd roll out for that one I mean maybe they're trying to do sort of like their early past lives hype and then hold it and bring it back closer I think that was the intention but it didn't really click in that way which is a bit strange it wasn't as it wasn't opened as widely as past it wasn't it wasn't anyway um the only other movie that I would say I think was a winner even though I was I liked it but was like more mixed on it than many people I talked to was Emilia Perez which was also at can this is jacqu ard's new movie it is boy it's a lot of movie it's just I mean the description just like the tagline is a yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a transc Coming of Age story it's a musical it's a story about the desap paros in Mexico it's an action movie it's a family drama it is man it's a lot um Carla gone Selena Gomez and Zoe Sala are the stars of the movie for me Zoe Sal I thought was absolutely amazing and it was a real like I didn't know she could do this she's singing dancing rapping giving a genuine heart hav seen center stage in many years but anyway that's a really good point and it it's it's like the whole time I was watching the movie which again like I like aard but I often think he he like tries to make three movies at the same time M and never chooses which one It ultimately is and I felt that way a little bit about Amelia Perez but watching zo hel I was like what why where has she been like I I know she's been Gamora and she's been an avatar well that's literally your answer is that she's been like in a tank with you know all the dots I know and I years and years I'm sure that was incredibly lucrative and people love her because of those movies but man she's so [ __ ] talented and I really was taken with her in this movie did you go to the volleyball game where Selena Gomez before the n performed Ash I heard all about it it was the Talk of the Town I wish I was there um it's incredible campaigning yeah they made a bunch of signs and then she just showed up she did Selena Gomez I would say was a little out of her league in this movie relative to the other two stars but like listen all the value starts now you know she's pulling stunts lots of rumors about whether or not she's engaged you know the ring will be on and off for the next four months people are invested she's going to get a lot of people to watch this film which is coming out in November on Netflix and is certainly audacious like a lot of movies here the audacious movies were the ones that usually didn't work for me ultimately at the festival I thought actually some of the more conventional stuff with one exception was the stuff that I liked the best I I did feel a bit like I was getting on in years I was like this is a real movie not some of this other clap trap that they're trying out here in the world um that's I think that's ultimately just the testimony to the to the Slate itself maybe not to my taste my favorite movie that I saw yeah was the was very audacious easily the boldest movie that I saw this year which is nickel boy yeah which I saw on opening night this is raml Ross's first scripted film he directed hail County which was nominated for an Oscar some years ago um it's adapted from a Coulson Whitehead novel it's coming out in November from Amazon starts Ethan hares Brandon Wilson anenu Ellis Taylor I'm I'm sure you read a bit about it I did and then I was like I don't want to read too much because I want to go go in I also it's adapted from a Coulson Whitehead novel that I have not read so I'm like should I read the book first to be able to understand I I was holding it in my hand in the bookstore the day like the day I arrived at the festival and I was like should I just like jump into this read a 100 Pages tonight and see because I wanted to get my bearings with it I'm glad I did it didn't do that but the people who because because the people who read it seem to be a little bit frustrated that's always the case so so the answer ultimately is I think I will probably see the try to know as little as possible see the film and then read the book because you still want to I understand that it is like a major work of adaptation yes which is cool it's very um I don't mean I can't compare it to the book because I haven't read it but the it's a very form breaking film and you can see a filmmaker who is a documentarian applying the skills and the tools that he learned in that format into this movie you know the thing that to note is that it's a movie that is is is seen from the first person perspective so the camera is literally is as if it is the head of the lead character in the film and then some things evolve and it it shifts and changes and it has a kind of dynamism but it is very alienating and I know a lot of people who really struggled with this movie especially the first hour of this movie ultimately it is easily the movie that has stuck to my ribs the most that I have thought about the most that I have tried to unpack the most it is a very literary adaptation of a literary book and so there is metaphor and reaching imagery that is meant to to compel you to think about things well beyond just the characters and the setting of the movie it's very bold I I I don't think mainstream audiences will connect with it even though it is very profound um but it immediately just made me want to see 10 more raml Ross movies um I the anybody who is like I really like challenging movies likes this movie anybody who's like I want to be entertained does not like this movie okay great so I mean that's this will be an interesting challenge for you that's not fair well I find that you often in the Middle Ground of that successful challenging movies I really when when you land the plane here's what I want I want you to land the plane okay you know I I respect effort we got to swing big art is about Taking Chances and if you're asking for my time you know get it together before you ask for my time I I think a good companion to this movie is a somewhat more conventional version of not a similar story but another black filmmaker Malcolm Washington he adapted the piano lesson the August Wilson play um this movie that like that played pretty well for me it's not the Bold thing that nickel boys is but it's just a kind of like a rock solid adaptation of a play that takes what could have been a very stagy sort of thing the way that the last couple of August Willam adaptations have been very like you know two people stuck in a house yelling at each other there was plenty of that in the piano lesson because that's kind of the essence of a lot of Wilson's work but I thought Malcolm Washington yes yes to be fair uh Malcolm Washington who's Denzel's son yeah a this is a big son of situation John David Washington is also in this film he's one of the stars um pretty impressive cast you know the movie is build in an odd way I wanted to tell you about this Samuel L Jackson is the first name in the credits he's maybe the fourth or fifth lead of this movie sure but he's Samuel L Jackson yes he's the most famous person for him and for everyone else you got to get that out in front but curiously Daniel deweer who people will remember from till station 11 amazing actress she has a with credit it says with Daniel deweer I would argue she's the star of this movie it's sounds like the Netflix intention is to run her as a supporting actress she's outstanding okay Dynamite the other standout from the movie and I was stunned watching this was Ray Fischer who played Cyborg in the Justice League movies and then was entrenched in that kind of Scandal around the film and he just took my breath away I honestly was amazed he was very funny very touching um and so I thought like getting a performance like that out of him spoke really well Malcolm Washington and what he did it's a good movie it's not you know it's not no I've been the best movie of the year but it's excited to see it um okay let's talk about the surprises right so surprises meaning surprises to you Sean fennessy your expectations weren't they move in both directions sure okay I think both of these will appeal to you I mean the second one I just absolutely can't wait I for to tell I'm very interested in September 5th as well which is the first on your list September 5th is a movie that very few people knew very much about I had actually been invited to a pre-screening of this in August and I was like what is this I don't know what this is this isn't on my radar as a pundit I don't need to care about this and as soon as we got there people were like September 5 September 5 this is a very good movie so it's a movie about the um kidnapping hostage situation at the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich told entirely through the perspective of ABC Sports which was covering the event in real time it stars Peter sarar John mararo Ben Chaplan and Leon Benish who you we may have seen in the Teachers Lounge and it's a process movie about journalism you know and and a kind of Thriller I mean as soon as you explain it and list the actors I was like okay well now I'm in it's just really gripping you know and really wellmade Tim felbound who's not a filmmaker I'd really heard about much about he's directed a couple movies I've never seen it's not the most complicated or movie if you compare a movie like this to a movie like nickel boy they're operating in almost completely different forms that's okay we have we have room in the tent it is for lots of different types of movies I agree this is a movie that does not have distribution I saw Scott fineberg in The Hollywood Reporter yesterday I thought very smartly wrote a piece that was like if the right Studio comes along and buys this there's a there's kind of a low-key best picture best actor kind of campaign here it's not going to change the world but you know it's also a film that is in some ways about the Israel Palestine conflict which I think will make it a very complicated movie to communicate about I read some reviews of the movie that felt like it really only showed one perspective um which is a fair criticism I suppose as a like a movie engagement pretty slick and entertaining and emotional and as to journalists or recovering journalist pretty trenchant about the ethics of of an issue like this and what to show and not show on live television right right right so I like so the the best actor campaign would be for sarsgard so I I think that they would push sarsgard and I should say Peter sarsgard and maybe I'm spoiling some of my superlatives but he was extremely present at the tell ride Film Festival okay let's just put it put it on hold and we'll talk about that cuz you know I'm finally caught up on presum Dennison I just I got a lot got to say he's the [ __ ] man he is he's an absolute Legend he's awesome in this movie too he has a scene where he just yells at some cops and I was like this is incredible stuff German cops uh John mcgar is really the lead of the movie okay last scen in past lives one of my favorites I don't think they're going to position it that way but John mararo effectively plays the sort of director of the day coverage and so he's the man in front of the control panel with the with the team telling them what to do Peter stargard plays legendary ABC executive Rune arage who sort of made his name with this and a number of other events it's a cool movie like Peter Jennings is in this movie Howard coell is in this movie you know what I mean it's like the real people or the someone's playing Peter Jennings but then the real Howard coell the real Jim McKay like it's it's an interesting blend of the real and the lightly fictionalized okay I'm I'm to see who know maybe it won't come out this year I don't really know but it was nice to sit down for something and be like this wasn't on my list six months ago the other surprise which I saw handly just for you yeah good but also like shame on you that this is a surprise shame on you this movie I had so much fun with uh Martha the the Netflix documentary about Martha Stewart directed by RJ Cutler who directed The September issue yes and thus has a way with with uh wealthy white women of a certain age he also directed The Billy eish documentary for Apple that's right and so he's got a knack for earning the trust I think it's the relative Trust of these complex people yeah you know I I I have produced like many documentaries like this and they're hard and they often suck and the I would say one of the most important things if not the most important thing in a in a biod do about a really famous person is the master interview the main talking head interview with the key subject sometimes they sit one day sometimes they say two days sometimes three days sometimes they get you spend two years following someone it seems like they spent one maybe two days with Martha but she is [ __ ] on one in the interview she is on one all of the time that is the Martha Stewart experience including I mean you know whether it's like spinning sugar and or being like what did I miss most in F federal prison when I went for Insider training lemons that is a that is a legit thing that Martha Stewart said I missed lemons what a [ __ ] icon she is truly iconic in this movie I I did not know hardly anything about the first 40 years of her life and so a lot of that is revelatory she's incredibly candid and the film is very clever at talking about her her marriage and her family and the sort of like the building of the brand and her iconography and the books and the magazines and all of that stuff for for me was new I didn't know any of it once we get into sort of like 1994 I knew a lot more about what we were doing but it was very entertaining it was done actually somewhat similar to the style of Amy where the only face you see Talking is Martha's you hear a lot of other voices people in her life journalists people giving context throughout the film but you never see their faces and she turned over to RJ an insane archive yeah I mean Diaries from the 70s photographs from the ages of like nine all the way through the present day she has maintained everything in her life as you imagine she might yeah she's scrapbook she's she's doing it all yes I mean I she also is still she's in her 80s you texted me that she showed showed up in gold on my pants to the premiere she dominated the Q like I don't know if you know this but she kind of started a feud again in the New Yorker this week because in addition to Martha the documentary coming out this it's very exciting fall for me yes October 1st Ina Gardens Memoir will be released wow and they're beefing Martha told the New Yorker that they were friends but then AA cut her off after she went to prison and she found that very hurtful and that's like a real quote that Martha Stewart gave the New Yorker this it's just what more could you ask for that's beautiful she does talk at length there's a lot of time spent on her um prosecution and I had not realized that it was James Comey who was the prosecutor of that case which uh volumes the film makes quite a bit of hay out of that about the uh the the show Pony Diva nature of the James Comey experience but um just a really good version of a movie like this because that it's a just she's such a great subject and she's really like one of the critical women of the 20th century first female self-made billionaire in history as I said to you it's a an a an American story like through and through completely fascinating good movie I'm probably hyping it up too much but I think you'll really like it no I'm sure I will have you ever read her blog if you guys have any time today and never listen she was an unbelievable just like total dissociation blog like 2014 and like suddenly there'd be a picture of like her dog that like you know and was like well my dog died you know but she really loved like chasing straws or something it was great during the Q&A she was asked about social media because you know she's she's like really strong on Instagram and Tik Tok right now yeah I know Martha is posting thirst traps she that was disgusting that's actually featured in the film but um she had a really funny comment where she was like you know what I really loved was Twitter the good old days of Twitter she was like here's what we would do it would be me and a few of my Executives and we'd sit around and we would say should this cake be chocolate or peppermint and we'd post a poll and then we would decide based on what the people told us about what the recipe should be and she was like earnestly saying I built my business on the back of crowdsourcing on Twitter what a strange person clearly a person one who hates therapy and is being confronted by probing questions about the deepest parts of her life and her reaction to it rocks and occasionally reminded me of you occasionally yeah thank that's great thank you okay I mean but she's never she's never liked questions I'll never forget she did a skincare interview once and they were like so what do you do for clogged pores Martha's response I've never had a clogged POR in my life I did not know she was such a babe as a young woman oh yeah like I knew she was you know conventionally beautiful but I you know she was a model and there are a lot of photos of her like at 22 being radiant in Italy um cool movie I liked it great I'm very excited big crowd-pleaser at the festival sure uh speaking of crowd-pleasing there were two movies that I have described here as the commercial winners these are movies that I am betting people are going to like I liked them both they are not my favorite movies I saw at the festival they have flaws yeah but I en I had a great time watching them and I'm I'm also very curious what you're going to make of these movies more I agree and at the festival I was like it's it's important to have movies like this um there may have been too many bids for commerciality at the Festival this year but the first is conclave which we've talked about quite a bit on the show who got it in the auction did you get it I ultimately did you got it I wonder how successful this movie will be at the box office I think it has a chance to be that kind of Middle Ground 789 and tree in the best picture race this is a an adaptation of a novel by Robert Harris which I had not realized is like a little bit more of airport novel um and the story is you're speaking my language again it's like if it's airport novel and the Vatican is involved I'm on board it is about the selection of a new pope and it is just frankly a very thinly veiled satire or portrait of electoral politics and the kind of backbiting and whether it's a criticism of the Catholic church and the way that that is ultimately a place for politics or a criticism of say the American electoral system there are overt references into the movie about how this is sort of like you could say it is like a Hillary Trump kind of election you could say does anyone say hanging Chads no one says that but someone says what did he promise you secretary of state that is a line that is uttered in the movie okay so children do you know what hanging Chads is okay oh my God Jack does not know what hanging I guess you are younger he's yeah that's that's like the year of birth God Chad Chads the 2000 election when they the recount and then how are we yeah and so whether the hanging chad on the paper ballot counted as a vote or not it's a very traumatic experience okay so that listen it's just good to check in with the youth from time to time there the voting system in the Vatican is honestly not that different it is literally writing on paper uh anyway this is a movie starring Ray F Stanley Tucci John Lithgow Isabella rosolini standout performance from an actor named Sergio castellitto an Italian actor who's phenomenal in the movie directed by bur who made All Quiet on the Western Front which I think we were kind of both kind of mixed on um it's like impressive but not great yeah and it was also like the Netflix's like late push of okay what about this for best picture and all the international being being like a war you know it was interesting I like the score whatever yeah and this movie also has a very um loud and and I would say overstated you haven't said agath Christie yet even though you said everyone said it it was just like it's like agath rzy who did it and I was just like I am in it it is very Agatha Christie um it's great with me it's like Agatha Christie but with voting um and it's damn entertaining finds is incredible he plays the sort of the master of the conclave the dean who is sort of managing the process of finding the next Pope and he has a strong relationship to the previous Pope and that you know the story sort of unfurls from there it's uh it's just damn entertaining it's very silly and there is a there is a significant twist that will be discussed oh great at length listen airport novel you know it's in the Lou I uh I liked it I liked it I think you will like it too if you don't like it I'll be quite surprised me too the second movie It's called Saturday night so you sent me many updates over the weekend I loved being in touch with you um I loved hearing your thoughts I was thinking I don't want Amanda to feel like I'm not connecting with her this time no it was great it was really it was wonderful and I loved hearing about it and I just I saw that Saturday night was premiering I saw Bill Murray showed up just looking at my phone waiting for the text nothing just you just drove right on by well the reason why honestly is not because I didn't want to communicate with you one the service at these uh Cinemas is terrible in tell your ride honestly and I wish they would fix that but it's probably for the best so you don't look at your phone but I went directly from Saturday night to the film The Apprentice which is about Donald Trump and I had to Race Across to to get to the next movie I probably would have sent you some thoughts did you run I hustled I would say I hustled I did quite a bit of hustling this weekend just to get from theater to theater but um got my steps in as they say Saturday night is the comic Thriller real time drama about the making of the moments leading up to the first episode of Saturday Night Live it is directed by complex figure of contemporary Hollywood Jason Rayman cast of incredibly exciting young actors we've talked about it a couple times talked about it when the trailer came out um I liked it I don't I don't know what to say I think it's I think it's very fun I think it is incredibly it's easily the most well-made Jason rman movie movie um it's shot on 16 mm it has a great look and as as someone who I was chatting with at the festival said it's a little bit of him trying to do his PTA thing you might find that a little obnoxious but I don't think too obnoxious because I would rather Jason wman be doing this than trying to explain motherhood to me you know what I'm saying or making a Ghostbusters movie honestly I think if you if you if he had to choose paying homage to his father's generation of great comic talents is pretty good the the movie I think manages to avoid a lot of the tricks of like mimickry where you're comparing the real life figures a handful of the performers I was telling Alia that her beloved Dylan O'Brien as Dan arroy is fantastic in the movie hold on Googling Dylan O'Brien um Corey Michael Smith as Chevy Chase teric oh Maze Runner Teen Wolf okay all right ala I see you you know he's really good Gabriel LEL I thought was good some people seem to think that he was too young for the part of playing Lauren Michaels I thought I thought he worked but Lauren is like almost 40 when he launches 30 he was 30 he was he was 30 leel is like 22 he's definitely too young but I thought he pulled it off and then the stand out for me W Dy obrien was the voice of Bumblebee and Bumblebee he was he was he's a part of my extended Transformers Universe thank you to Dylan O'Brien uh The Stand Out is Rachel sened who plays Ros absolutely who plays Rosie Schuster who is Lauren Michaels soon to be ex-wife and a key writer on the show yeah and she's a star like she's just a star uh and she grounds the movie and is very very very uh I don't want to say she's she's the brain of the movie I would say Okay um Cooper Hoffman terrific as dick ever saw the movie has Pace it has jokes that are lifted explicitly from the Saturday Night Live books okay it has Michael Odon who saying the Ferocious hilarious Michael Odon who things in the movie people just like pop up out of nowhere to be great like Tracy Le just like shows up for one scene and is amazing you know it's one of those movies where it's just moving fast it's 95 minutes I mean fun is fun that's if it's fun I'm great with it is it the great tries on creativity in the 20th century it's not it's it's not um I have been trying to figure out if it is an awards movie because I think it's a very commercial movie that older people will like obviously because they're seeing stuff they know and younger people might like because of the cast and the energy of the movie I don't know if people are going to be like this is a great film but that hasn't stopped movies from getting nominated for best picture before and if it's Feelgood and also speaks to a certain audience the the tricky thing is is like are the the academy voters of a certain age like do they remember it too well I you know because for you it's like in Amber and you've seen the reruns and you've read all the things but you weren't there I wasn't there yeah you're right so I don't know it might it might be a movie that has honestly pitched at someone like me more than well you're not an economy voter well I don't mean specifically me but someone who's like you know somebody between 35 and 50 who loves SNL and is interested in its history and has bought the books and listen to the podcast but doesn't doesn't feel like they own it okay you know like I don't own what's happening in this movie it is still a historical Recreation so I think it's but I think I think it's you know people have been joking about what does it mean to be Jason rayman's best movie kind of snarkily but it is among the best made movies that he's he's done and he's trying some things in terms of like you know follow follow moves the camera see the movie I'm sure it's night I'm sure I'm speaking to the audience Amanda they want to know about this film it's also like I'm sure we're going to have to talk about it again it's a weird Awards year so not have to I'm sure we will talk about it again and I'm sure I'll I'll chuckle throughout the film maybe you won't maybe you'll despise it I I don't have that kind of hate in my heart I would be surprised you know my friend I have plenty of other places to apply my hate but like I saw my friend David erck at the festival noted contrarian great critic yeah and I saw him before before we saw the movie and as we were chatting I was like man I think he's going to [ __ ] hate this movie and he did hate it he wrote really one of the only deeply negative reviews I think he found it very solipsistic and pointless and I I can't really argue with the points that he was making but the the the screening was a [ __ ] rock concert people were so into it it was probably like the most energetic screening I went to all weekend and you know like you said Bill Murray introduced it he was hilarious like it was just one of it could be a festival High it could be that it was on on a Saturday night when we all saw it but I think it's pretty energetic and fun movie I mean we all enjoy watching an SNL skit when it's good I'm sure it will be fine I I don't know if I need to do like eight rightman deep Dives before the award season AG you can do that on your own time I won't be doing that either okay the big disappointment of the festival for me was the end oh sad this is a musical about um a family living in a bunker after the apocalypse that family is portrayed by Michael Shannon Tilda Swinton uh and George McKai sounds great on paper directed by Joshua Oppenheimer who made the look of Silence um and the Act of Killing like Romel Ross a documentarian trying to Port over what he does into a scripted film and this movie is two and a half hours and the songs were not good and most of the performers couldn't sing very well and I really didn't get it at all and this was like my most anticip movie of the festival I think this movie will make you want to tear your eyes out I really I I I I think you will you will turn into a wolverine watching M once you just said two and a half hours the songs aren't good the people can't sing the idea of the movie is very good which is that and if you if you my eyebrow just started twitching I can see your uh the idea of the movie is basically like how do you confront or avoid your responsibility to the world to your family to the Future the the family that is portrayed in the bunker we're meant to believe is at least partially responsible for the apocalypse right right right and so it's a movie about avoidance or not avoidance what kind of songs like are we wholly original like bursting into song to explain what's going on but it like like a traditional like Rogers and Hammerstein type musical are they doing more pop musical number that would be worse I mean it's much more um it's it's a sort of quieter more spare Arrangements but they're Orchestra um and I shouldn't say the songs are bad but they're just not great and so if you're asking Michael Shannon to sing into camera for three consecutive minutes like they just need to be better yeah and uh I don't know I I I was bummed I don't like it when people sing into camera uh yeah well Emilia Pera has also features a lot of singing into camera I would say that there's an energy in that movie that even if you don't love what they're doing with one exception there's one musical number that is terrible in that movie but the others are really actually quite good uh musicals are hard they're very hard they were an interesting theme of this Festival they're amazing when you get them right but you know one of the one of the documentaries that I saw at the festival was also kind of a musical it's called piece by piece this is the Fel Williams Lego Movie Martha loved it she posted yeah and then well but it was kind of one of those quid pro quo things because Fel gave a song well and gave them a song for the documentary so she was there and she was like I just saw his amazing documentary also thank you for giving me this you know yeah that's like billionaires you know handshake stuff uh and I don't I don't blame them for that piece by piece complicated many years ago when I was a music journalist I I pitched but never wrote a book about fro Williams I'm obsessed with fough Williams I'm less so in the last 10 years since he has become like the happy guy but when I was writing about music I really saw him as I think the movie sees him which is as essentially like AR Quincy Jones you know he he is um someone who has kind of straddled all genres all um audiences he's he just has that like pop golden touch that producers before him have had he's really the first like super producer famous person who became an artist in his own right uh this movie which is directed by Morgan Neville is I thought half brilliant and half empty the first half of the film especially when you started seeing the rise of him as a musician coming out of Virginia out of pretty much total obscurity and getting beats in front of rappers I was like all in Lego all in Lego so like Lego Nori talking in detail about finding the Super Thug beat and learning how to rap along to it and help forel helping him write the hook like it is it's classic biod do stuff where they interview the famous person and then they tell you the story but in Lego and so he does use the Lego animation to some like pretty extraordinary fact that Carl Sean the host of Cosmos plays a significant part of it because stars is such a huge theme in Fr all's life so like you get to see like Lego stars and the Lego interplanetary system there's some stuff and underwater in Atlantis is a big theme for him so you see all that stuff it's pretty cool the stuff I loved the most was just him being like and here's how I got uh I just want to love you to Jay-Z and then Jay-Z talks Lego JayZ I've seen the trailer it's really funny there's a stretch where he he goes through like the first four or five hits when he was at the center of rap that is just candy for somebody like me that I'm just like I just would watch three hours of this no I know it's like it's like my version of okay when the music biop pick they get in the room and then suddenly you realize that they're writing respect like it's respect sure of course yes that stuff is this is literally a Lego biopic with frell's cooperation directed by Morgan Neville like I am bewildered by this there are a lot of convergences I would say the movie really had me until the beginning of end of the second act beginning of the Third act where it was sort of like here's forel's Challenge and it was just that he had not written a hit song in like two and a half years or something like it just like he had no struggle he or if he did he is is UN not forthcoming about what his struggle was and so he really kind of like closes down he doesn't talk as much he lets like people like Buster rymes and Missy Elliott fill in the gaps for a lot of his story and you know it honestly just seems like a guy who for 25 years has been at the center of pop culture and is incredibly wealthy and has a lovely family right and gets to make a movie about his life in Lego yeah so it's not that deep but the fun parts are very fun um do you want to hear about the Apprentice I guess so I mean I do you know like will you do the backstory I'm very I'm very tired already you're very tired because because I don't know Trump is just kind of like Beetle Juice to me at this point you know it's like you like if you don't say his name he doesn't exist and that's un true everybody you need to go vote against him like I please make sure you can vote and make sure that you vote against Donald Trump and you were going to vote for RFK Jr he P out yeah because he's going to be Secretary of State um him and the brainworm they'll share it and the dog and also the the bear what about the bear that he found not I meant the bear but then did you see there was also like a whale or something because when Ben Affleck was rumored to be dating kick Kennedy his daughter then they honor some other story about RFK pulling like a blubber I mean see this is this is what happens it's like sometimes we just don't need to get into this Arena and this movie feels a little bit like okay you made a a movie and you've you've timed it to the election and you kind of got gifted by controversy and one of the investors not liking the movie that investor being Dan Snyder which you know eat it sir and then like so then it like finally gets release and it's the surprise thing and all the MSNBC moms are like we did it like let's go see The Apprentice but like do I need to see this movie like I mean come on well my answer to that question is no yes that's the thing of course not here's why you know it star Sebastian sand as Donald Trump Maria bakalova as Ivana Trump and uh Jeremy Strong as Roy con all three of them genuinely exceptional in this movie Jeremy Strong of course is the standout he is a [ __ ] freak of nature he's the man like he completely transforms into Roy he's like spends 40% of this movie in like a bikini with a full body tan like he he is a maniac and so committed and just does the thing that you always say about great actors which is like he just disappears into that part yeah Jeremy Strong is gone and it is Roy cone Sebastian Stan to his credit that's a very hard person to play he's someone he's probably the most famous person in the world and he's a person whose particular affectations are so ingrained in our culture because of the way they've been parody and mocked or celebrated or whatever and he does a very he makes a really good choice in the movie which is that you know it's a film that takes place roughly from the mid 70s all the way through I think it's the late 90s the those affectations that we know the hands moving in and out the this move the pursing and the widening of the lips the way that Trump looks and communicates they very slowly evolve he doesn't start in parody he starts in a more normal form and it's a it is an impressive feat to eventually evolve into this this monstrous figure that we know in our history the problem with the movie is exactly what you might imagine which is like we know all of what happened if you've read one New York Magazine feature about Donald Trump written any time in the last 20 years you probably know everything that happens in the movie right you know that Roy con is the person who gave him the playbook for how to be a domineering dishonest Titan of Industry you know that Trump was heinous in his personal relationships that he was a shrewd but corrupt businessman you know that he is a kind of like philosopher king in a lot of ways of this very gross sense of the world but that he does have a strong point of view on how to be in the world and how to succeed he did before he became CNL but that's another yeah but in in the 90s you know the art of the deal is like part of this part of the film and I I there were a couple of I guess a couple of moments particularly like the beginning of his relationship with his soon to be wife that maybe I didn't know as much about that was somewhat revealing and that's maybe the only part of the movie that feels genuinely you mean Mara no no no okay Iana um Mara Maples doesn't even figure into the film at all okay um but and you come out of the movie and you're like so this is like a bad guy and he is a figure of what's wrong with the way that we teach people to pursue power in this country and he's dishonest and immoral and I I know yes I know as well yeah I I mean here's the thing I I don't watch cable news for entertainment and I don't really feel that I need to watch this for entertainment I like all of the actors involved I and I and I am very clear once again please go vote but other than that like I'm good yeah I think if you are an MSNBC mom or akin to that you probably will enjoy it you or whatever the right word is that is not enjy um you'll be compelled by the movie but I came out of it feeling gross and kind of bummed out yeah documentaries and also youd printed there in your in the mountain you know and also was coming out Saturday night which was just like a shot in the arm you know and then sat had to sit with that couple of quick documentaries I saw Will and Harper which was at Sundance but I did not see it there which is about uh will frell and Harper steel their longtime friends um Harper steel came out to will as a woman few years ago they documented this journey where they drove across the country together and talked about their friend ship and what Harper was going through and you know her Evolution and uh just like a really just heartful movie that just makes you feel good I thought that was really good um I saw this film Blink by Daniel roor who made navali about a family whose children three of the four children or maybe four of the five children in this family are diagnosed with a degenerative eye disease and they will soon lose their vision and so these children get to ask to go do anything that they want in the world and so their parents take them up all these Adventures to see the world together Hard movie to watch as a parent but beautiful and really interesting um I definitely recommend it it's like a Nat movie we got to move on right now I'm sorry I know it's like it's they're like I want to like play with Legos on an elephant and then they like go and do it I mean that sounds really lovely but like I can't watch it right now um that's pretty much it those are you know I saw a couple other movies that I didn't love that much maybe we can talk about them as you quiz me I did miss a bunch of stuff I didn't do a good job with the international films this year okay um I'll probably try to catch those later there were a lot of convergences I'm going to list them to very quickly okay musicals with non-m musical leads the end and ailia Perez right documentarians shifting to scripted the end of nickelbys curious biopics we didn't talk about Maria yeah well we're gonna do Venice from afar in a second so obus skating biod dos piece by piece in Martha some things that Martha would not get into you might be surprised to learn and then Tik toks about Network Executives great Saturday night and September 5 you know at the end Sean you're just looking for representations so congratulations to you do I relate to Lauren Michaels is that why I love that film uh what are the superlatives what do you want to know okay best celebrity sighting I mean I saw Angelina Jolie she was there yeah so she she flew from Venice where she did like full court press I think it was Maria was the second night um at Venice yes yes at Venice um and she and Pablo lurine the director of Maria came right like did the whole thing got the standing ovation you know everybody timed it and then flew to tell youde just missing her ex-husband Brad Pit you know the one of the great things about tell as I've told you in the past is that very famous people come and they just sit in the crowd and they watch the movies and they're just wearing jeans and they hang out and it's not like there's no red carpets you know there's no awards given out at the festival it's just a it's just you're just there to see movies they do spotlights right they do like they do tributes tributes and didn't Angelina get a tribute she did not she didn't the tribute this year was Sira Ronin was the big star who got I mean I saw her in the boots she looked great she um her film The outrun screened which I had previously seen out of Sundance which I did not love honestly she's very good in the film but she was uh recognized film mmaker was recognized sick um I did not go to that tribute unfortunately because it conflicted with a movie I had to see but she's obviously a legend and then the third tribute was jacqu odard the director is getting a Toronto makes sense we we will talk about her more in depth when we get to the next segment of this discussion uh but you know in addition to that like I said Peter SARS he must have seen 10 movies yeah like who was just hanging out going to he was there the whole time and he if you came up to him he was super nice if you didn't he was fine I he was just super cool the king of Brooklyn Halloween yes sits on the soup he hands out the candy while I guess Maggie whoever takes the kidss trick-or-treating I hope he's a nice person because he seems like the man yeah uh he was so he was very present you know every single film I saw was introduced by the filmmakers so they were all all there you know Morgan Neville was just wandering around Edward Burger was there just wandering around like all it's it's all very touchable you know like it's all they're all right in front I'm trying to think of what other big actors were I didn't see sersa Ronin but she was there all weekend um oh Mikey Madison in the cast of yeah I was gonna say I I mean that they were definitely photographed yeah they and Shawn Baker were everywhere and um particularly uh Mark idlin who plays the the the kid the young the Russian Timothy shalam I mean he's unreal he was everywhere too he was he was like at my 9:00 a.m. Maria screening looking hung over as hell I don't know if he was hung over but he looked hung over uh and he's amazing in that movie so that those were the highlights that was good okay best rumor that you can share best rumor like film rumor you know I mean if you know about anybody hooking up I'd love to know that as well but well uh I don't know about anybody hooking up you know the one one of the rumor the two rumored special screenings were The Apprentice in a real pain and that happened a real pain which I mentioned that a Sundance as well actually Kieran cken was there he's somebody I forgot Jess really quite something he's phenomenal in a real pain that comes out later this fall too um the other rumor was that it no ferazi was going to be the other movie that was going to be there okay so this was it there it was not there okay this is my my pitch to tell you ride I've thought about sending a note to to Julie Hunsinger who runs this Festival okay I think that they need a midnight portion of the festival I think the only thing that they don't really do there is genre right they don't show horror movies a lot of people thought the substance for example should have been at this Festival because of what it is and what it could mean in the future um I think you know it's an older festival and it's driven by patrons I do think that they need like 11 p.m programming and movies like no Fatu should be playing there um you you would say that though but you know so the reason I say this it's like that the meme like the DW M like likely place for him to be you know it's like well okay just go with me on this because I've thought about it a lot last summer talk to me premieres at Sundance and comes a big summer hit this year out of nowhere longlegs becomes a big summer hit there is an appetite among young movie goers for clever original genre horror that still has a a modum of prestige right no Fatu has obviously a high-end example of that this is like a real master filmmaker it's a focus movie it's not like a universal movie yeah I mean I assume that they're saving that more for like an awards push right totally well I'm I'm curious about whether that's going to happen or not but at a minimum I think it's going to be a big box office movie yeah but but movies like that would fit in here in part because I can feel the festival getting a little younger and this is something young people want and I'm not saying I can save tell Rod because tell Rod's doing just fine without me right but I do think that it would give a new character to the festival that would be cool so that rumor not coming to pass of the movie screening um is a little disappointing okay this I mean this leads us to biggest disappointment which you already answered sort of the end yeah the end was getting to see no Fatu not getting to see no Fatu I mean I saw the friend the new um Naomi Watts Bill Murray movie about a woman whose friend dies and she um adopts his dog and uh I didn't really care for that movie very much number four biggest regret or worst personal decision AKA this is the um Taste of things dinner award um which to remind you guys last year tell ride uh Sean was seated next to Ethan Hawk at an opulent dinner served by the the the team and the chefs behind the wonderful film Taste of things and you left to go see niad so I do not have anything as dramatic as that story um I I think I clearly I skipped the ne I skipped every party I didn't go to any parties I I I uh I think I now get invited to things because they know I won't come oh okay you know I had a couple of conversations with some publicists about this but I didn't go to not a single one this is the first year I didn't go to a single party didn't do drinks I didn't go out to any the special dinners did you like sit at the bar and mingle with people dinner there's no time I don't eat dinner what did you eat grola bars I had a hot dog okay I had a gluten-free frozen pizza this is like I had a turkey sandwich this is really really I had I I did some accounting I did I had six packs of Twizzlers okay four packs of Mike and iikes okay one Reese's peanut butter cups um roughly 38 cups of coffee can I like a real can I tell you a real thing that I did this weekend because obviously I was getting texts from you and then I was looking at all the photos from Venice my phone was serving me a lot of photos of of me on Water Taxis last year at this time which is sort of just were you jealous of your former s yeah it was it was like a pretty dramatic how it started how it's going for me personally um but so then at one point I was literally like I was looking at airbnbs on the Leo for next year like I put in the dates and thinking about if I could get you also to go but you'll never give up tell your ride but then I so I was thinking about it and I was like looking at the airbnbs and I was like okay this has enough room but then we got to think about food and I was like literally thinking about like you know what can I like prepare to like make sure that Sean like eats vegetables so that he survives for like 10 days in Venice because it goes on forever I I have a counter to your pitch which is that the people want Amanda and tell you Rod I had a number of people say that they really they want you to come they want us to do a big dinner there they want us to do an event there like the I honestly could not believe how many big picture listeners were there that's really that's really nice thank you everyone let's put the rest of the cards on the table okay so I didn't get a waste of tickets you tried I didn't even try no no no I didn't even try course like was asking me when I walked first of all I by did I try I mean did I sort of like ask my husband if he would try for me and he was like I don't think we're going to he was like I don't think I should do you really want me to and I was kind of like a half-hearted no um but that proved the right thing because it was like a full Ticket Master debacle and we wouldn't have gotten them um so again there are rumors that that more dates outside I think they're G to come to the US I think so yeah I do so there's a there's a rumored date in this time zone that would conflict with the Venice Film Festival well last time you were talking dates you didn't have your dates right you know I know that but then and I checked with my source and my source is listening is it Liam gallager no um and I I I know that I didn't have my dates right but this seems like maybe so you're not going to come to the tell you Rod Film Festival one of the greatest places on I was like I like really want to go back to Venice I love the Venice Film Festival I let everyone looked So Glamorous I'll tell everyone that when they ask next year where's Amanda she said no she said she's not can I tell you that George and Brad went on a dou date to a restaurant that I also dined at last like basically I could have been there with Brad and George George and Brad who yeah just just two guys that I know um I just all the it's everyone looks so beautiful it's right on the water it's Venice Sophia was there she was wearing cure how nice you know I as a person who also like doesn't go to the parties and basically just watches movies Marvels at how weird the standing ovations are and then goes and has pasta it's like the best place in the world so I and I I'm guys I really need something to look forward to right now so the other thing though that I could cter propose to you is that if we do can uhhuh I'm already spoken for next may I have plans I have plans I told you guys when you booked this stupid golf trip that it was at the same time as can yeah and we have you on record being like I made a mistake we should have gone to can this year I am who I am sometimes I see film sometimes I golf anyway I'm really glad that people that you had a nice time to tell ride and that if people there are aware I would love to go to a dinner there it's just I mean you would love the parties there too because it is it's exactly what I'm describing I mean you're just like I didn't go to the Netflix party but Angelina Jolie's just Milling around the Netflix netf part but I don't actually like to meet the people you I don't either that's why I don't go I want I want to go and talk to the publicist and Executives that I know that's what I'm next to the ocean um that's kind of that's my guiding life as always I support you while quietly mocking you you know that's really that's the energy we're bring so what you're saying is that you didn't have any bad personal decisions you just ate granola bars and didn't talk I don't know what I missed out on that's the thing I don't know what fun night I missed out on and I did see a bunch of friends and you know I I have made over the years so many good friends just from waiting in line to go see movies tell yours so many uh so many journalists and publicists and just people that I've gotten to know you know 10 15 people who I see screen ask those people how they get you to remove your airpods and talk to them oh I was so social you would have been so proud of me yeah just s hang I mean my friend Chris Rosen I he and I hung out the whole weekend we saw like 10 movies together and so I was with him the whole time but yeah like I've met some patrons who I just consistently see it my shout out to my guy Vince like I hung out with him a lot all right I'm proud of you I I I've listen to very few pods very few probably the few fewest pods I've listened to over a weekend in years yeah there weren't that many this week it was true it was kind of quiet yeah uh any other questions for me uh the best movie goinging experience you're just like I'm here it was probably Saturday night everybody was fired up um you know that wasn't the best movie that I saw but it was the best experience okay let's talk about the award stuff okay and we'll we'll we'll dovetail that a little bit into Venice so let's hold off on best picture for a minute because I do want to kind of game it out with you a little bit Yeah best actress is very crowded it was very crowded at Telly ride as I said there was a tribute to sersa Ronin who's been nominated four or five time four times she'll almost surely be nominated a fifth time maybe even a sixth time if she gets nominated for Blitz she could be getting two nominations this year in addition to the outrun she got the tribute everyone agrees she's the genius like she's just amazing she's always good you know and she has the thing this year where she has both is it the outlaw the out run out run outrun and then Blitz the ceve McQueen movie yeah so she's I think you're going to be seeing a lot of her and often in the situation where like a very respected actor has two movies kind of in front of people's faces yes you see like nominations that you might not otherwise see yeah I'm trying to think of what is the other film that Kate winset had the year of the reader but she had a year like that where she had two was a Revolutionary Road maybe that sounds and it was the same thing where she didn't get I don't I can't recall if she got nominated for both but she won for the reader and she had to make a decision about what category she was going to but she was really front and center because of that she'll be there Mikey Madison clearly the revelation of the Year everyone has fallen in love with Anora she's fantastic if I had to bet today I would bet that she will win I don't I don't know I I just I decided that in a couple weeks we're going to do the big osar bet before you go okay we're going to choose all the categories we never had the followup I know well you got pregnant and then we couldn't have a crazy night you know pregnant at the time and you knew that did I know that know that um remember I came in with five Chick-fil-A for Oscar oh yeah that's right that was fun you were pregnant I forgot um we we did it in October of last year big Oscar B okay this year we'll do it in September before you leave all right Mikey Madison Angelina so yeah Maria also she's running played she's she's deeply running to go to Venice and tell you right you are running Angelina Jolie has made roughly like 1.5 good movies in her career that's a take I have that I'm sharing Maria might make it 2.5 because I did like Maria yeah but you're like kind of a Mark for that [ __ ] I am a mark for Pablo Lorraine would like to explore a sad woman from the 20th century that's just something I like you are also a mark for Pablo Lorraine El like makes beautiful things that like I like him he's I think he's a really great filmmaker prove that he like control F through a history book once that's very rude these are psychological portraits of complex women in our history how dare you does margarth that's her show up in Maria at any point flying Aristotle Andis plays a huge role yeah John F Kennedy in the film yeah among other people great who I don't I can't remember the actor's name okay so it's not like it's not famous person no um Maria is it is more of the same it is the themes of Spencer and Jackie I would say my power rankings of the trilogy are Jackie one Maria 2 Spencer 3 oh interesting oh okay that's good I like Spencer more than you did I like this movie a little more than Spencer here's the thing that this movie has Maria Callis singing opera right all the time like over and over again it is electrifying in a movie theater to hear this music so at a minimum if you like Opera and obviously you and I both do it it works now I'm just thinking about seeing Maestro and Venice and all the music display and it's so beautiful theater it's powerful and I do think Angelina is very very good in this part she doesn't sing you know and you can tell when you're watching it yeah they said they did like the quote unquote voice blend thing on there are a couple of instances where they do and you know the movie is kind of framed around this idea of sort of like near to the end of her life and her kind of grappling with the idea of no longer performing and maybe not having her voice the way that she once did you know Lorraine is interested in like all these themes of like how women are put in boxes and how they're unable to express themselves even if they're the most dynamic figures in the world and you know all the same stuff in those other movies yeah I mean you know you sit here in in in that chair feeling deeply the way that Maria Callis wants dead L Callis uh but you know it's a great metatextual portrait of Angelina Jolie same thing she's a incredibly famous person who people constantly talk about other her and make her feel like she is not of this world in negative ways and you can feel her kind of tangling with that in the movie so I liked it and I and people are going to like her they're going to think she's great and it's a biopic of a musician they are and they I mean that's the interesting and complicated thing about Angelina Jolie is that people have often not I mean she won an Oscar for a girl interrupted like 25 years ago it's not like she's uncelebrated but there her it's become more chilly over the years towards her yeah so that'll be an interesting one where she's I you know calibrating this campaign based on sort of like its time and Reckoning with this person but will people respond to it in the way that she wants them to I don't know we're gonna find out yeah that movie was acquired by Netflix yeah which has an interesting domino effect that I'd like to speak to you about so Carla Sophia gason who um is one of the stars of Emilia Perez yeah is clearly a best actress candidate I think they will Campaign hard for her I think that would be a historic nomination she's a transwoman I do think that Angelina Jolie and that movie being acquired by Netflix puts Angelina Jolie into the primary position and and best actress okay um I could be wrong about that it also means that Zoe sna specifically gets bumped down into a very soft best supporting actress category very soft like historically soft we can talk about it in a second and then there's a few other movies that we either haven't seen or would be more like outliers so Amy Adams just saw the trailer in night [ __ ] did you watch that no doesn't look like an Oscar movie Nicole Kidman who got Raves for baby girl at Venice I mean I could definitely see something like that happening that's gonna happen like I I don't know anything I haven't seen baby girl I wasn't at Venice but it's just like Nicole Kidman just being out here and being amazing nailing hair stickens into the wall yeah exactly quite literally yeah just can't wait for that um it's like automatic Oscar nomination people she really people really do respect her they do and she you know continues to take chances and do interesting stuff I'm very excited about that movie I was disappointed that that movie was not a tell ride one other thing about tell ride no a24 movies as I'm fairly certain since a24 started 10 12 years ago that this is the first time that they did not have a film there maybe there was one other time like in7 2018 or something like that but they almost always have a strong presence there you know zone of interest there last year very famously Moonlight was there you know like they ladybird was there they they always have a strong strong presence there and there were a couple of movies at Venice and there were like four a24 movies at at Toronto maybe it was just like the titles didn't match up but I thought that that was notable yeah um and then June squib in Thelma which we've hardly talked about but I wouldn't be stunned she's 94 years old and is good in Thelma and she's doing 94y old action sequences it's amazing yeah uh and then Dei Moore in the substance which is a very very very brave performance still haven't seen it but I will see it in the in the coming weeks need you to see it the further along you get in your pregnancy before seeing it is hilarious I think it will be like basically yeah yeah yeah like I got nothing else to do I might as well go see the substance and then podcast about it um it's a crazy one supporting actress very quickly I think Daniel deweer who to me is a lead in the piano lesson but they'll probably run in supporting and then zo sna I think they're both lead performances but they're going to be run and supporting and then after that I don't even I'm trying to game I'm like an Newell Taylor nickel boy maybe she's not in the movie A whole bunch okay lny Ben September 5th she is really admired actor Isabella rosolini who's in conclave I think her part is too small I think where're people surprised to see how small her part was could be one of those like weird isella rosellini yeah could be like Allen Alden The Aviator or something where they're like yeah we should just nominate him he's he's cool we like him like her mother winning for murder on the orian express like what are we doing here but also it's in Bergman I don't think Selena Gomez will be nominated but she's going to run in that category too she'll be at the awards she will you know she will she could sing she performs a song in the film that would be great okay um my money is on Daniel deweer right now well that would I mean I haven't seen the movie but that's a deserving makes s she's very good and she you know was quote unquote snubbed in favor of uh two Leslie you may recall her performance in till that was a big controversy yeah remember that wow I do yeah yeah Edward Norton just out here tweeting yeah best picture Okay help me out all right so Dune two I'm gonna write these down while you're talking Dune part two Anora Anora I think sing sing because baffled though we are by you know I'll go with you on that a24 is not calling us and sharing their strategies but they are pretty good at this and I think sing sing like it both I think it worried us how much it like smelled of Oscar but also it is is really rewarding and the that it subverts that while also being something that will speak to people agree with you okay let's think what else is coming out so that's two movies that have come out and one that many have seen at festivals and is agreed upon as a great film this year right Palm Door winner now what uh I'm thinking off the top of your head you a noted Oscar pundit can't think of many other movies and this a lot of people feel this way this is what I'm saying that's what's so interesting about this that's true I swear I'm not totally checked out uh no I I I I don't think that you are I think Emilia Perez should be strongly considered I think a lot going for it it has a lot going for it that's one that I feel pretty confident will make the list so we can put that there after that okay let me throw some things at you yeah Gladiator 2 I mean no one would be happier than us I yes we'll get to that very briefly but um but I haven't seen it you know and Ridley is just is Ridley he's been Ridley quite some time have you seen the Napoleon director's cut yet no because apparently it's only 46 minutes of additional footage and everyone's just like this was boring oh see I I saw I saw the exact opposite I saw the the Ridley heads were like once again Ridley has shown the studios that they do not see his vision and that they have disrespected his greatness that's because you didn't mute all of the people being like the brutalist a seering vision of American imig no like you haven't seen it you can't tell me it's not I if I have to hear one more thing about those [ __ ] 70 mm canisters being rolled through Venice to get there on time I'm thinking strongly get me the [ __ ] out of here scene solo brutalist pod just me two hours talking about the brutalist the Vox Lux guy remade the Fountain Head oh my God help me like America is in trouble you're talking about Brady corbette this was the this has been the most acclaimed movie out of Venice now yeah but listen it's been acclaimed by it like like I said like a bunch of guys just you know with something accounts just being like Adrien Brody is a master and this was a I mean just like pure crazy Twitter voice and so I muted all of them and then I guess that means that I didn't you can't mute me not in this format that's true but you haven't seen it yet I haven't um it got a 10-minute Ovation but like but like the Almo dovar movie got a 17 minute standing ovation just because it's Almo dovar and Tilla switon and it got very mixed review jul and more and everyone was like I don't what know what's going on here so yeah that was disappointing I mean that's a movie that a month ago I would have said is definitely going to be on the best picture list elad doar doing a English language movie with till this one in Julian Moore and it got very very mixed reviews that doesn't necessarily mean anything movies don't have to get great reviews to get nominated for best picture so it's still plausible to me that that could compete but I we haven't seen that movie either right other potential best picture contenders I think the piano lesson is worth considering it got like warm but not outrageous reviews at tell ride but there's a lot of pieces there that make sense um I think it's Poss well okay conclave I think has the kind of crowd-pleaser but serious thing that feels very old school academy you said it was really silly you said it was just but did the two popes get nominated for best picture I believe it did it did um I also think it's impossible to discuss this without the twist okay I mean it is also like silly things dressed up in like fancy clothes get nominated all the time and and I often enjoy it so I'm not saying that in a negative way and a tremendously prestigious cast yeah and both fines and Stanley 2G are excellent in the movie so that alone could elevate it up so I'll just say and the academy does have an Edward Burger thing they yeah I mean obviously he's been there before so I'll I'll write down conclave I'll write down Gladiator 2 do you want to write down the brutalist I to me my gut is it's going to be too Arty I could be wrong I'm going to write down the piano lesson even though you know oh no I think Pian lesson that's a good one okay I haven't seen it yet but so that gives us two four six eight films okay two pop two popes by the way was not nominated for best picture but it was nominated for adapted screenplay as well as actor and supporting actor thank you it so Hopkins and price were nominated yes both popes okay two for two on the popes those two popes yeah I think that was original title was those two or them two popes damn comma two [Laughter] popes well that could have been the title of conclave too uh Saturday night sure put it in I don't know I haven't seen it it's a soft year yeah it's a soft year they Lov Juno you know they did they did love Juno they love they love a docy drama yeah they love a recreation yeah Bohemian rapity was nominated for best picture I I mean that's why I'm like should we be talking about a complete unknown that was going to be my next okay so I'm just going to let's write down 13 or 14 and just say this is what we're working from put Challengers on okay I was going to get there I I had intention of getting there so you said a complete unknown I think you're right we don't know it's not playing any festivals uh but it's coming out of Christmas and you'll see it with your dad and you'll just be like wow Bob Dyan I won't see it with my dad but you may see it with your dad right oh I don't know oh that would be fun I'll probably see it with you and you'll just be like crying and really angry and I'll be like it's okay okay um the other night I walked into Zach's office he's been like rearranging stuff in advance at the baby you make it sound like he's the star of The Fountain Head um and he was just like alphabetizing books and Blasting Dylan at like 8:45 on a Saturday night and I was like this is some real dad [ __ ] like this is you've reach the next level no I don't I was just kind of like L and then I tried to give him his space you know we all all have our ways of coping yeah he's about to be a father of two that sounds very challenging yeah uh how about Blitz Stephen Queen's new movie that is not premiering in any of the signature festivals is premiering at the London Film Festival like do you understand what it's about I do but if you talk to anybody in the business they're like this is nothing yeah okay it's doing then it's doing New York it is doing New York I think it's the is is the closing night film in New York or the the opening night film is nickel boy mhm I think the centerpiece is the room next door and the closing night film is Blitz okay I am going to the New York Film Festival as well very excited well bully for you yeah where will you be I will be on my couch okay it's tough um I'm gonna write Blitz down even though I don't believe in it okay but I haven't seen it so it's a pointless statement anything else Challengers so you know I went on Katie Rich's podcast last week and I said this this was my big she was like what's your big Theory with season yeah and I said I'm not counting Challengers out and the reason why I'm not is because three of the last five guests on the show directors when I've said what's the last great thing that you've seen they've said Challengers yeah everybody that I know likes Challengers now that we get through the year it's kind of like me with Saturday night at the festival where I was like when I look back I'm like that's pretty good I like that yeah I think people are going to look back on the year in movies and they like Challengers aour film energetic and exciting young movie stars fun script good music this is a good movie and I I think it was a a weirdly good chance that it might it assuming Amazon pushes it correctly and gets it back in front of people that it could get nominated you agree I do I think also obviously Luca guadino had queer I think it premiered like tonight you know today like while we were recording um but that campaign is very much on and so when Luca is out front and center I think you know it all his children will come together I haven't seen queer but I have been told by many people that it's deeply strange and that it is more susperia Luca okay with you know but then it is but you can also see call me by your name if if Daniel Craig is campaigning then he's out there he's already in the new le fall ads which is the Jonathan Anderson brand who also did all the costumes for Challengers so I'm just like they're all going to be back out front and center M um Jonathan Anderson was at the premiere they look like they're having a great time Rachel Vice looks great you know um Daniel Craig has long hair now I don't know how it's sort of doing the Tom Cruz thing but saw that um so I think that there's like a lot of room for like the Luca awareness to come back in the later half of the year which is a important part of nominations is being people people's minds a24 picked up queer yeah there obviously I I don't think that film has a release date yet no I think it actually helps Challengers that queer is a little bit more challenging right um I'm putting the brutalist on the end of this list okay when's that coming out it does not have a distributor so it may not even come out this year okay when you look down at the list of potential Distributors Netflix just picked up Maria a24 just picked up queer I mean both both are likely places for them to be you know they are and search light has got a complete unknown yeah um focus has got conclave and no Fatu all of the likely homes for a movie like that are kind of filled maybe there's a Sony Pictures Classics potential there they have the room next door neon's got a Nora so I mean it seem it seems like neon and an next year release right that feels like the right home for it yeah um just based on what we've read and we haven't seen it but I don't know if it's going to get in or not this year we'll see okay um am I forgetting anything I'm sure you are but I can't think of it right now oh Joker fully Ado oh sure still PR right Lady Gaga is in Venice she landed great where's Walken they they're also there but she I mean she showed up with an engagement ring that like the size of who she engaged to uh the guy she's been dating for four years this was confirmed by the French prime minister during the Olympics keep up the French prime minister confirmed that Lady Gaga is engaged to who to some guy but like of no note like guy from I don't know a manager I don't know what he's doing like a manager of artists or like a manager of a baseball team no like a manager of artists though a baseball team would be more fun Lady Gaga is deserving in love of course I agree I didn't know that the guy from industry is in Jolie Joker folad which guy from industry um Rob oh Harry Harry lah AKA British trade Turner I have not seen last night's episode of industry or two nights ago do not spoil it for me okay uh I sat with someone throughout the festival who a journalist who binged the entire third season and said it's the best season of TV seen in like five years I have a good friend who also binged the entire third season and is very into it I can't believe you just went past British Trey Turner with like absolutely no can you see it it's like it's really really act uh I don't we don't recognize Trey Turner on this podcast weend uh I didn't watch any of the games okay did he play well uh I think he played okay Trey Turner short stop for the Philadelphia Phillies significantly the second best short stop in the National League East after Francisco Lindor R RV a short stop he has a short stop he's the shortstop in baseball in I knew about him because you guys say his name a lot but I didn't know he was a short let me let me just be clear about this he's the [ __ ] man okay he's so good that's great and it's wonderful what's happened where he has become fully embraced this year by New York and he deserves it I love him let me throw something at you okay Wicked part one I thought about it it's not insan it's a part one I just don't see a part one getting nominated those two women are working so hard and I like I respect it and they just and they have to wear like crowns everywhere they go they all everybody needs that movie to be successful I know but I just you mean Cynthia Revo and Ariana yeah yeah um I just don't care like I just don't care about that movie I couldn't care less and I guess I we'll have to see part one at some point in order to cover part two I don't know W maybe you won't you think they won't make part two no I think they I think it's probably made already um so then probably I would well Juliet's gonna come on the Pod to talk about part one I know maybe she just comes on part two every year like I well not every year every baby I have like one is it a mulligan where I'm just like oh I missed that one was the first one it was the Northman oh and so I was thinking but I I'm GNA see no Fatu because of awards and stuff and I'm coming back so soon but maybe Wicked part one is my M uh well tell you what if you want it to be and you don't want to have to see part two or you could see part two without see want to be night [ __ ] respectfully that's just really not my you're really going to be mad when you watch the trailer I'm not going to watch the trailer okay that's the thing that's my black licorice I have never liked Mariel holler film I've you hate Amy Adams you said many times you think she's an absolute fraud but I am uh her with Bill on my feelings you're with her Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton was in tell ride why there were the were the documentary called zeroski versus Texas about the people who are suing the state of Texas for abortion rights okay well you know what that's doing something important fil okay so that's I mean I didn't see that film actually one of the most crowded you and Jason Rond leading the women's rights movement uh well I did see Andrea Arnold's bird okay also about a young woman yeah uh at the same time that's OSI SE I didn't love bird unfortunately for me did you see the swim to Bill documentary I didn't I did see swim to Bill he was he was exciting um he was very present swim to Bill legendary swimming teacher here in Los Angeles often employed by the modestly Elite of LA to teach three-year-olds how to swim in pools or the very elite or the very elite such as rashita Jones who I believe her swim teacher was swim to Bill and she made a short documentary about him that was playing here that was a very funny um Instagram photo that she had where she said two most important bills in my life and it was swim to Bill and Bill Murray in the image uh yeah I didn't see I didn't see the swim to Bill movie all right um got to tell you at the pool this weekend I met the most incredible I met like two two-year-old Michael Phelps oh really and I don't think he was a swim to Bill graduate it was just like a kid doing the worm in the pool and he was like two years old oh my God he was amazing I loved him so much so that was the scene intimidating that's the scene from no it was great it was joyful okay great so that was the that's the pool report that's ni for this weekend I missed out let's just recap this quickly okay I think we have between 15 and 16 here Dune part two Anora Sing Sing Emilia Perez conclave Gladiator 2 the piano lesson Saturday night a complete unknown Blitz Challengers The brutalist Joker fol Ado Wicked part one and I've added no Fatu to the end of the list even though I think that's an outside likelihood I think I as always I think this list is to American and there will be some stuff you know that you you know in your blinkered way you skipped all the international films had I been at Venice the films had I been able to fulfill my role as the citizen of the world then I would be able to report whose fault is that this [ __ ] baby yeah well yeah I know take it up with him um the two the two movies I've heard the most about that could fill that slot that International slot are all we imagine is light which may or may not be India submission and the seed of the Sacred fig which I don't want to get this wrong I want to say it's ger potentially Germany's submission that sounds right um those films seem to have the most Buzz coming out of the festivals they both played can as well but I haven't seen either one of them another movie that I two two other movies I didn't see quickly Memoir of a snail which is an animated movie by adim Adam Elliot which it got rave reviews um I don't think that's a best picture movie but seemed to be liked I didn't see better man I was warned off of betterman this is the Robbie Williams biopic oh sad yeah it unfortunately it always conflicted with something else that I was already committed to seeing I saw some Wild reviews in many directions that some people despised it some people really liked it it's from Michael Gracie the director of the greatest showman you know Robbie Williams is represented in the film as a CGI monkey right no that's true okay what am I supposed to do with that I'm waiting for you to respond take your time I'll wait it's like I do do you actually need a documentary explaining Robbie Williams to me an American you know cuz it's a very insular British thing yes obviously like I know I'm a you know but I why is he a CGI monkey what about take thats I want you back I mean I do I like take that but I remember I once watched a clip of Graham Norton on Graham Norton of another take that member who like I I can't name I don't know who it is talking about how Co Jim Johnson Co Chang his life cuz he could finally like go to the grocery store and not be mobbed and I was like sir you could be my next door neighbor you know like just come here so it's a certain it's a stripe of Ang liilia you know exactly so I would like a normal documentary I don't know why we need to bring CGI into it um I I'm gonna see that movie it's a Paramount movie it's a bit curious to me that Paramount is opening that movie wide in America when nobody knows who rob Robbie Williams is but some people seem to really like its Oddity and creativity let's talk about most anticipated films so you've pull an on here that you've already seen yeah but that was you want to just represent it for the people yes because I thought it was like unfair to this movie to Lord it over people no no no no no but it wouldn't be reflective of the state of the of the Fall if we didn't mention it one way or another but you're not anticipating the film Saturday night believe it or not I'm just going to see it maybe that's you know I don't have high expectations I don't have low expectations okay I'm just going to go have a time at the movies what's your fifth most anticipated movie of The Fall it's queer uh because I'm a fan of luuka guadino and Daniel Craig okay and sex and all its forms so fan of all those things as well uh my number five is a little movie called jur number two directed by perhaps you've heard of him Clint Eastwood uh sounds like this movie is coming out great uh I'm not quite sure the ways in which it will be platformed by Warner Brothers the Warner Brothers Corporation where Clintwood has been making movies for six ades but um it's a courtroom drama Thriller starring Nicholas Hol it's more or less all we know and okay I mean can you imagine the crazy Clint Ewood pod I'm going to do when this movie comes out I it sounds like it could be anywhere between November and January for when it comes out but I think it's gonna come out this fall remember when we saw the mule together [ __ ] rock and Bradley Cooper just showed up for yeah it's like FBI guy number two man that's a good movie my number for I don't care what you say Blitz um I have respect for Steve McQueen and cersa Ronin and Harris Dickinson I I've heard that those two play very supporting roles I mean listen I think do you know how the blitz went I think everybody played a supporting role who would you say is the Le like the bombs I mean I don't know it's just it wasn't great okay so you can't count on anyone understood I looking forward to Blitz too I you know I'm not going to write off c one of my favorite directors I I'm still I'm still choosing to believe in the room next door I'm I'm looking forward my number four is uh elmar's new film even though it seems like the transition from uh Spanish to English has caused some issues the the short film that I saw tell ride last year with Pedro Pascal and Ethan Hawk was not his best work and this film is getting mixed reviews but I love love still very beautiful and stylish it it looks great his movies always look great lot of flare uh what's next for you baby girl let's go Harris Dickinson are you kidding you know like you did I did feel seen and supported by you because you just started sending me pictures like no commentary you would just send me pictures of Harris Dickenson from the Venice red carpet where let's be clear he was on one does he have a mustache I don't I mean do you call it a mustache like a mustach sprinkling not really but I but sometimes I don't mind it do you think I should grow a mustache no I don't why um I would just look like a cop well it would be sort of gray right so that's sad no the mustache is the only thing that's not gray it's not what color is it it's brown like my hair okay no I don't I don't think that you should but also like it's not very supportive I think that's not a good decision for you and I think it was a good decision for Tom celic you know what I'm saying so well I can't argue with that literally the greatest mustache since W it's like we have to be we have to be case specific that's all I'm saying the [ __ ] is that that's no way to live I but harison is doing more of like either be Einstein or an idiot it's more like I both like haven't showered in a week and I'm like impeccably groomed you know which is like a very special what do you think he smells like um I I don't really think that this is an appropriate conversation to have on the podcast at some point but I just let me let me say once again that I I called my shot on this early and now everyone is like oh do you know about Harris Dickinson and I'm like yeah I do how much money will he be paid for that shot called it's not that I just want him to be respected I want him to be in GQ my h is not listening everyone else you know what I was wondering about this is do tell just us here do you think that our spouses listen to this podcast more or less than Taylor Swift listens to Travis Kelsey's podcast oh my god um I know for a fact yeah that eile isett out of the rotation on the big picture so I think there's I think it's more than likely okay that Taylor listens to Travis's pod more than Eileen listens to this show okay but I don't think that's a judgment on us I just think she's not caught up on movies at all at this stage of her life sure and also maybe secretly Harbors a tremendous hatred for me and also is like gets this you know she gets yeah I'm literally on the phone with her from tell you ride I'm like then I saw this movie and then I saw this movie she's like all right God damn it like when I start when I when we're with other people and I start like you know trying to be social and make jokes I can see like this look of fatigue of Zach's face and I'm just like yeah yeah I know you know you see this Zach said I asked Zach this last night and he was like I think I'm probably even but then he pointed out that Travis and uh Jason Kelce don't publish as often so Taylor has the advantage oh we're talking like pure minutes perspective I don't know I think I it's really just who's the better podcast bous you know they're not married and you and I are married I have my 15year wedding anniversary this month that's crazy 15 years yeah happy anniversary that's beautiful yeah yeah it's great I love being married um I'm I'm looking forward to seeing baby girl also Nicole Kidman rules yeah I left this for you but this would also be on my L I really liked um both of Helen Ryan's movies um bodies bodies bodies and Instinct and I've been told this is much more like instinct her first film in terms of tone and people I think people like that movie more uh uh my number three is no Fatu we've already talked about it Robert Edgar's Christmas release adaptation of the legendary vampire story it's beautiful that there are things that are made for you in this world you know this is probably number one now on my list for the rest of the year um and complete unknown as the most terrifying for literally the list that you made that we're looking at where you puts something else at number one yeah but it's just for fun okay my number two is the aforementioned Anora which I've seen Y which I loved y uh I'm excited for other people to be able to see it me as well my number two is the brutalist I have no idea if it's coming out but I saw saw the tweets and I was like absolutely you're saying to me that this is a a film about an immigrant coming to this country but it's like There Will Be Blood and it's about America and pain and struggle and and success architecture and love and Devastation and the the awfulness and great of this world I do like Adrien Brody I'm really Adrian Brody Guy Pierce Felicity Jones I like two out of those three people how dare you blaspheme Felicity very much I mean name a movie where she has a pulse she's in a very good um oh [ __ ] what's that movie called I'm gonna look this up this is not good podcasting we're almost done here guys I'm sorry I would argue that this is this is where the real magic happens well she's in Rogue one oh yeah that's good and she's good in that I like her in like I like her in the movie like crazy that's the movie I was thinking of but she's the one in Rogue one who just has to like look confused but determined the whole time you know yeah but in a stealy way uh it's not that stey I can't say I'm a fan of The Theory of Everything or on the basis of sex or the aeronauts none of those movies are interesting what was the George Clooney movie I don't remember she's in a George Clooney movie yeah that he directed for Netflix and it's like about space oh yeah uh that movie is called the midnight sky yeah which wasn't very good okay um what else not not a lot of good movies okay the brutalis I'm is I I've chosen to believe I'm I know that have you seen the childhood of a leader Brady Corbett's first movie no Robert patson but I hated Vox Lux I know I didn't like it either with such a passion and and and what I hated about it was it's ostentatiousness the fake intellectualism I was like this is a movie that a person who doesn't get it but thinks he really gets it is making and so that doesn't bode well for a three and a half hour movie uh in that is resp to the Fountain Head you know what I'm saying in Vista Vision out projected in 70 mm I mean I just like clip after clip people and I recognize the hallway that they're opening the door you know and there go the canisters enough with the canisters I like preserve film shoot on film I think it's great just talk about it less you know okay do more say less are you saying this to me or to Brady sometimes you're like a little just do more say less I there's nothing wrong with not inherently anyway what's our number one Gladiator 2 let's go you know it's got to be needed to be good yeah needed to be good I mean I will have a great time no matter what but I too would like it to be good instead of bad that's that's sort of My Philosophy about going to the movies I'm getting increasingly excited about Denzel Washington in the film increasingly yeah I'm a little I'm still a little worried that they put his whole performance in the trailer and that he's in 10 minutes of the movie I'm hoping he's actually like a best actor Contender okay like I really hope that that's case that would be really fun we'll see and then all three of them are campaigning together for their various categories that would be lovely that would yeah the family the fan yeah that would be nice any other thoughts I like movies you have a conclave as an honorable mention yeah I I mean I'm really looking forward to it it sounds Preposterous but in the best way what about here the Roberts zcas film starring Tom Han we recently what did we see the trailer before was it before trap speaking of um did you show off your shirt oh yeah my shirt so I ordered this cuz I needed new shirts cuz nothing else fits um I think I was like in the waiting room at the doctor for those of you listening at home you're wearing a Josh hartnet shirt oh yeah yeah it's like one of the meme shirts but like a cash money t-shirt but for Josh haret um oh okay they're telling me to put the the computer down and then you can see it you can also dirting see my giant um but it actually the sizing worked out quite well for this face great um everyone who didn't like trap is just we don't see eye to eye but and we don't have the same about the film here so we saw the trailer and you turned to me and you were like this is going to work I think so it it could work I think it's it might also be that the trailer really works and then the movie doesn't work I'm watching the trailer with you yeah you're in this state this this really is a state at this point I'm about to watch the girl dad movie of all time and this trailer hits and yeses I've seen all good people is playing and they're going through the course of the life of Tom Hanks and Robin right pen they have a [ __ ] daughter tell they have a daughter and he's laying on the ground in the living room where the entire film is said reading to his daughter and I'm like this this will be a good film this will be No One Believes my heart No One Believes In The Power of Tom Hanks more than me as you know well and like and this specific sacran [ __ ] that you're just like well but it worked Roberts Z mechas has made two movies with Tom Hanks those movies are what Forest Gump yes Cast Away yeah but what are the what are the last five movies that Roberts mechas has made let me see if I can do this off top of my head Pinocchio abominable was that the one where he was a fascist uh yes that's correct okay the witches no that was G Del Toro pap yeah yeah you're right that was yeah no no he wasn't a fascist he was just just a Marinette um Pinocchio the witches oh yeah starting in halfway yeah was it was welcome to marwin the previous film to that yeah yes yeah welcome to marwin and then God what was before that I don't even know it's not bable for the Polar Express but is there another motion capture film that was before that Jack can you help me out oh my God Al whoa Brad Pit Maran cotar Movie that that was does not exist so bad and what's before that that's got to be is baywolf before that oh the walk I think is okay I think the walk's kind of cool that's Joseph Gordon levit in the recreation from the documentary about the French um balance beam across the Twin Towers you didn't like that movie it's a it's a little theater kit for me it's not as good as the dock um I'm just I'm still stuck on Al which is like a World War II spy movie starring Brad Pit Mar and C very in your in your in your Zone and it didn't work it was quite bad yeah welcome to marwin a world historical failure that I find fascinating also an adaptation of a documentary I also don't know if I can take Roberts meus seriously after and I've said this before but that joke in the um Charlie Kaufman movie yeah was just kind of nailed to the wall career Ender yeah that was very it and I'm thinking of ending things there's a fake Robert Z mechas movie that's what you're referring to and it is very funny um okay I I I think that's all the movies I think that's everything from the festival so you you returned renewed and excited I feel horrible oh okay I was saw five movies a day for four days straight and then I got on a plane got home at 10 o'clock and then got my daughter at 6:30 in the morning I mean it's this is a crazy life we're leading yeah uh but I'm very lucky also yeah so have gratitude and also I'm in pain okay is the Story of My Life do you get any time off or just like straight back to the from when when am I going to take time off we're we're entering the Thunderdome it's a w season Amanda I know trust me I know I've I've got plans I've I've got movies to see as well you do with the substance no I was gonna say it's a big week for us first day of school and Beetle Juice Beetlejuice it's all it's all happening highs and lows what will be the high and what will be the low Beetle Juice Beetle Juice get a three minute Ovation at Venice not ideal that that is like just like spitting in someone's face a little more muted than I was hoping the reaction would be that movie nevertheless that is what we'll be talking about later this week we talking about Beetlejuice Beetlejuice beetlejuice we won't say it three times Tim Burton Van's going to join us to talk about the movie thanks to laerys thanks to Jack Sanders thanks to our producer Bobby Wagner for his work on this episode thank you to everyone at Telly ride who was nice to Sean thank you very much to the people that tell you ride especially the people who go to the festival and care about movies that you you guys are the best and I appreciate you thanks for listening to the show we'll see you later this week [Music]