Reacting to Starmer's "painful" Budget speech and how to get tickets for Oasis | Podcast #88

love podcast hate nonsense it's the politics Joe podcast ladies and gentlemen the one where the gang get back together again oh I feel like we've not done this in ages been a while yeah been a damn long time missed you both yeah I missed your your Jewel company the triple threat the tripod yes the triangle yeah yes the triumvirate triples the trixa three I like trixa yeah the Holy Spirit yeah who's the father would be you wouldn't it who's the ghost what well possibly Ed because of his complexion and that makes you the sun yes prodal is it not the yeah Father Son and the Holy Spirit yeah yeah that's the three isn't it no there's a fourth one yeah the shadow laser beam Nighthawk 2,000 years of Catholic theology couldn't be wrong about the shadow Ed Campbell hello right mhm I'm good thank you AA Santino yeah all right yeah you yeah nice who's going to try and get a wasis ticket me I told Ed earlier I want to I I I want to go anyway but I want to go because I know it will really upset people that you're there yeah and I want to be able to like for the next year quote tweet like people who like [ __ ] post me being like I've got Oasis tickets if you hated me then you'll hate me more now would you get like an oasis haircut yeah um no you wouldn't what else could I do that would be Oasis seemed tons of gear yeah well I'll do that yeah okay that would go down well so in summary getting Oasis tickets to stunt on them online yeah to flex mhm I it really was fueled by that one guy who said that imagine turning up to Oasis and Chloe from Stockport is standing in front of you um and she's 21 all right Dave like what what do you mean I saw I imagine if there are women there yeah that's essentially what that is I saw another tweet that was like it better be people who know is very a proper crowd who know songs like these instead of people who just know wonder wall as if like the back catalog of Oasis is in any way underground yeah like yeah gatekeeping Oasis is mental what's next gatekeeping like the Catholic Church like what do you I think one of my best and worst concert experiences was an oasis gig oo it's the first time I saw anyone do pingers yeah yeah cuz everyone was doing pingers I was 15 and it was the first time I'd been Covered In Piss as well really you hadn't been Covered In Piss yet at 15 no wow at least yeah no I had Beyond being a baby was that what you're going to say I was going to make like a a sex joke about the water sports you were into as a 15year old just tons of squirting Jes no um that's a horri that opens up a really interesting debate that is squirting just piss I'm glad that we've got on to the uh if there was ever a forum to have that debate it's you with two men Ed your thoughts I something of an expert squish thing four minutes in in my past experience yeah yeah 100% hit [Laughter] that must be a nightmare for your laundry cycle rubber sheets I've always wondered about them right do they sleep in those sheets afterwards is it like you have your fun then you go to bed but you're like squeaking when you roll over I think they probably put on some it's two separate things isn't it let's power through let's p through the beeping another exceptional dub for the studio doesn't extend to the rest of your imine is [Laughter] quite I've I've always thought I've done quite a good Goose impression my God Jesus I don't know what that was Goose yeah no I don't know let's say you're Goose okay see now I'm trying to think of what a goose sounds like instead of trying toate I just did I'm not convinced of that they they do like a almost like a seesing like sometimes as well so they go kind of okay that's my Goose that Eva I would actually goose sound what's your best animal impression I don't I think I got good chicken as well okay that was that was weak my sister does a very good goat that's a horrible noise and it wasn't actually that much like all that was olly yeah that's a voice note I said AA at 2: a.m. on Monday morning have you ever done a bark off no and no I don't know what a bark off is it's where you just you just do the best impression of a dog we just had a honk off yeah I supposed so but we but none of us are familiar enough with GE m to actually ascertain who was the best I think but dogs were all very familiar with what would a bark off why would that begin well sometimes you slap your opponent with a glove you sometimes you're just in a in a bar and inspiration strikes and you say should we have a bark off and everyone is in and then you have a bark off so it's got nothing to do with squirting oh you know my mom listens to this podcast some of my girlfriend's family friends asked about the podcast on girl on Friday and said they were excited to listen to it so hello to them oh God no that makes me think about my yeah his family we're like oh well we'll listen to this podc Jesus that's yeah I was telling Ed that I met some Scottish people when I was at Fringe um likely place for them to be caught up with Ed after a week met some Scottish people over there last weekend thought you might be interested do you know them you started rattling off names yeah it turns out we actually do know each other um go on I don't want to continue no go on they clearly really didn't like English people and I took that on as a real task that's novel that's that's original from those Scottish people but I was like this is is this is my uh This Is My Moment oh you Champion the English I went I'm actually Italian did you put on an accent yeah I did I kept talking with my hands excy I don't understand you yeah uh is there anyone who won't be trying to get Oasis tickets H catfish and the bottom man because they're playing at Spurs Stadium the same the same day which I think is catfish and the bottl men are headlining the Spurs insan and you won't believe the prices so expensive how much do you think the O tickets will go on for oh yeah I don't know 150 for probably for this like going to be like a Golden Circle isn't there that'll be is that where you squirt yeah pardon is that where you squirt why did we start this okay quick question sorry is that where you oh it would be like the Beatles Concert it's you did you you didn't hear did you listen to the most recent episode no but that makes sense to me but there needs more context did you deliberately avoid the episode title that included Taylor Swift knowing that it would be me and Ed talking about her to your dissatisfaction I just thought do you know what men need to just men need to do this so I'll just let them get on with let them have their moment you know in that episode I don't make fun of you for your hobbies but I don't make F of pleading women to squirt but or lying Ed Ed revealed that he believed that every woman who went to go and see the Beatles would just as a result of Hysteria be reduced to pissing themselves I think that's a misrepresentation of what I said what was it that you said I think I said not I didn't say every woman I said a lot and I didn't say I believed it said i' I'd heard about it did your mom ever go see the Beatles no my mom was born in the late 60s scans possible so a what in the pr two years she could have gotten she's most likely to [Laughter] P yeah um and you believed that the saying not a dry seat in the house came came from this me is that what you said you said that I'm pretty sure absolutely notz the saying it's not a dry eye in the house is it not dry SE I would I would I didn't even notice you're right is dry ey genuinely would swear that was that was you that no right this is [ __ ] gaslighting of the highest in hisorical revisionism it will not stand on this podcast isn't it interesting how fallible the human memory is God it's fascinating do you know what we don't need the human memory because there's a digital record of it it's quite literally on YouTube who said it Laura it was Sam said it he said he said it afterwards because Sam Sam and Ed they it's like when you point two webcams at each other and their misogyny just becomes like ultra high powered it's like a Vortex ripping apart time and space what do you what do you like when you like they were like and they were like women couldn't watch The Beatles without mass hysteria and everyone having to go to evacuation points because the theater was full of piss flooded it was embarrassing they had to shut down thead I'm glad you weren't here to see it I'm glad you weren't here to see it um you say that but on Saturday afternoon the Everton players took the uh took a train back up to Liverpool the Everton players travel by train yeah they did don't have a team bus well yeah they do yeah they took the train they took the train yeah is that right I'm s was it like ritual humili sorry they clearly don't have the we don't have the money that Birmingham has that's rude Birmingham been splashing the cash yeah we got lots of money actually you're right yeah well you know what you know where that landed us what could go wrong um anyway there was this man who was leaning over like the one of the um the barriers and he was hysterically screaming at them like you're paid 60 [ __ ] Grand a year and he was fluorescent red spit was what for professional football though a week sorry a week a week sorry a week 60 Grand a year it was actually late an Orient was like yeah you do pay me that much so you get that kind ofform U it was actually just the accountant the digital marketing officite um no they probably PID the accountant a lot more seeing what happened with the figures the last time we won't make that mistake again do you think D was like you've embarrassed yourselves so it's the West main line for all of you the team bus we've sent it back [ __ ] you get the train I think it makes total sense to go on the train from Houston if you've been playing in Tottenham but but football doesn't make any sense but it's eco-friendly and a lot more comfortable than traveling on a b a bus I wouldn't after I would what's the nicest bus you've ever been on what's the nicest bus I've ever been on well I'm really glad you are scat you there's a new electric Fleet around the acne area that they've just brought in stage coach has brought it in I've always wanted to go on like a proper tour bus you know oh so sorry it can be more not public transport no so what tour bus do you want to go on anyone they one always make it yeah exactly fridges probably some beds Telly yeah I would expect at least one Telly maybe more than one one each Angela rain's battle bus in the general election that looked relatively nice the lib Dam bus was nice um one bus I went on when I was a teenager was a band that shall shall not be named when I convinc I was anyway I shouldn't is this is you detailing criminal I was of age I was of age um but I went on the bus nice the bus was um kind of disappointing because rubber sheets it's actually really cool like that there's like all these bunk beds and stuff um and a seating area in a small kitchen right but then when you've got like 14 people on there not very cool yeah me hot as well presumably smelly as well 14 people sleeping in one what you mean room people God God's Aroma the sweet Elixir and there's just this like huge just like wave of piss yeah did a fan get on me I was on oh have you ever when you walk into a like a you know multi person dorm and you think wow it smells great in here do you think that all the time every time worst bus we ever got in Brazil um about 17 hours no stops and an Argentinian man uh took one of the worst smelling sheds I've ever come into contact with at the beginning of the bus ride and the door to the toilet was broken so for the next 17 hours it was smell was so bad we I couldn't sleep just rocking in a state of sleep deprivation being like this is one of the worst experiences of my life absolutely right and then you look out the window and the bus's wheel would be like over the edge of the cliff that's like a 200 [ __ ] foot drop into the sea and you were hoping it would fall over yeah end to save yourself that would be like being kicked over in a portal because it would presumably land all over you oh at a house party once he was an 18th and uh a lad dropped his iPhone down the portaloo and despite the counsel from everyone in attendance that his phone was gone he went in came back out with blue past his elbow blue stained there and then held his phone up like that I got it did everyone Che no everyone was that's [ __ ] disgusting fair I remember that happening to a girl at a 16th you have to say it's gone no no no no no it wasn't a phone the boys the boys thought that one of the other boys was in that Loop no and it was her in there and then she got stuck down there no they kicked the the portula over and then she came back out and she was covered in blue all over her head I'm laughing it was actually a deeply traumatic incident that's really sad cuz it was prom oh my god oh no this poor girl that's actually a we shame um that sounded that sounded belittling why you said we yes cuz she was a child 16 but she was also covered yeah that's childhood trauma yeah should we go to each um o this G every single one yeah a million Vox pops oh yeah oh yeah that would be people would think people would be interesting was that halfway was that halfway to a pitch then you realized sounded like a lot of work and like no okay I don't think it would very good I don't think it would be a lot of work cuz people it's like a positive attitude people would be happy to talk to you um I don't what what would we ask them so much piss well I I this where that tangent came from I bring through oh you bring your own I bring Welly have you ever been to voxel after the foot after the cricket at the oval and yeah and they've got like um a urinal out outside voxel's tube I don't think I have you know it's basically like a trough and they'll be like honestly after the cricket at all times there's about 50 men circling it just pissing into it it's just it's like a piss Fountain they have public Ural in Amsterdam don't they they've come out the ground we have them here yeah someone got crushed didn't they yeah they did oh that's bad they have NN coming at the ground ones static ones they're really Grim they they come out the ground by Ching cross station really yeah is there a more ignominious way to die than crushed by your rhino crossbow crushed by w a piss Jing that's how John lenon died know he was short famously he was short George Harrison died in P do you know what they could do to fix this massive black hole in the country's finances what tax legalized gear and tax ah head of oasis I know that you haven't been on Twitter this weekend so I'm going to let you have that because everyone already made that joke they but you haven't been on Twitter so I'm going to let you have that do you know what I was just not going to say that yeah but I agree well done Ed what good G good gag thank you is there anyone who doesn't want Oasis tickets genu Laura do you know who Oasis are that's harsh that's not harsh we've been that's that's a game I always play with don't make it look like I'm just being horrible toora um it's yeah it feels just Mak St does it feel a bit cool britania I actually am really pleased about catfish and the bottlan because I think there's a the bottlan I what do you mean catfish in the bottlan what did I say no you said yeah catfish in the bottlan oh fine um I'll carry on the yeah pleas um their ticket pricing is astonishing n it's like it's 150 quid at the front golden who the [ __ ] is paying £ 150 Golden Circle see C is a Golden Circle and then it's what we we already talked about this the squirt Circle and then and then for General pitch it's 81 so less piss because you're a bit further away smells better um and then the the stands they're 70 quid I'm sorry but I don't think that that that is outrageous pricing they're quite mid aren't they what definely I would say they're Stadium they're like openers maybe like maybe they could have opened for Oasis I like I like them I like their songs yeah me too yeah but I would say yeah do the London Stadium like The Roundhouse oh yeah easy The Roundhouse yeah oh yeah they've got roundhouse all over them but even I don't think Sam Fender's played a played a venue that big in London has he he's doing he's doing what's the the [ __ ] Park fins Park he's doing finby Park in summer is park that's huge yeah he's doing that in the summer but I think that'll be his biggest gig in London by some distance they have that that caption the have like that one album two but the one with the the crocodile on it yeah I like that album so much that I can't remember the name of it it's got like Pacifier on it and all that hasn't it cocoon it's a good one seven seven yeah that might be the second album you know well yeah I mean Christ all right well so if they're charging 150 quid for for the squirt Circle um that's surely at least 250 Bish for Oasis yeah but do you think that they'll Revolt you know what I think will come after after this Ticket Master Tom fery but which will bound to HP be happening on Saturday yeah is that is some kind of Select Committee that examines Bots that are buying tickets and then reselling them scalping yeah scalping because you could deal with scalpers when they had to go on manually so they were kind of like in within the same chance as ulot as the nor normies but now they've got bot Farms normies but normies could just buy them as well huh you could you can just play the scalpers at your own at the own game no no but now that they've got Bots but you can you can get a bot you buy can you can hire a bot to buy you tickets you can like like people who used to buy like remember Supreme cloes were like Mass yes like so so hype you could if you really wanted a box logo hoodie you could off your own valtion buy a bot you just have to be willing to stump up the cash and be kind of I suppose a bit Tech heavy to how to do it obviously you shouldn't have to do that it's not it's not fair how do you fix it how do you fix it yeah it needs to be like the glassenberry system face on the ticket yeah cuz I know that you can sell that to someone else be you know but you can't but you have to be really sneaky even that's not cuz people are now like hacking into the glass andry system and getting tickets for their friends we uh I know several people have done that that's how we got the tickets someone hacked in and got it but you hacked paid for it still paid for it but you hacked in yeah it's like VPN I don't know enough about coding to say this any kind of explainable way but you run some script and once you're in you're just in several times and so one person just buys batches of six or for their friends you have to be careful with it though you can't go wild cuz you can get caught yeah you could you have to kind of stop it about 15 is that where you stopped I don't know I didn't do it and I didn't even go so I just I just paid for nothing if you remember for the privilege I just paid to be able to tell you donated to Glen yeah yeah I actually donate to the Arts donated to the the poor people of of Somerset you got a lovely certificate um I'm hi I'm Michael and this is my daughter Emily we are the Eves we are so grateful for your 250 donation farmers are facing tough times at the moment hey didn't some news come out about Stonehenge a couple of weeks ago oh the capstones from Scotland yeah yeah I think we talked about that did you I think so um which is mad cuz ulot didn't get motor ways until what when last year yeah it's way after Stonehenge was there that's true yeah is is culture dead um is it a good thing what do you mean is it a good thing that the biggest cultural moment now is the reunion of a band from the '90s we just had brat samed yeah cuz it's not it it was the er's tour wasn't it that was the big cultural moment and that has its own problems tied up in it don't get me wrong no culture's not all the squirting half an hour in I'd say we got to do the starma speech will we we squirting gags for that probably I don't know is that is that how you react when you sit front row at St spe I call him pissy care and there was a Golden Circle in the Rose Garden full of NHS keyw workers you have the privilege to be squired on by K oh my God this is ridic let's stop this right now well I just tried okay no that's the one thing no no I don't think the culture's dead I also don't think it's dead but people are being quite angry about people are saying this is the Deadpool Wolverine of of band I don't know what that means well yeah you know okay I guess you make the argument right no one no one's prepared to make a movie anymore uh that's not a sort of franchise Marvel DC thing which I think is slightly reductive um also just not true we've got films coming out our ears too many films have too many films um I'm like I'm off I actually I find the influx of emails from the barbarin about new films really overwhelming actually are you okay I wish I hadn't told people that I go to the barbin to watch films that's really um where is a cool place to go and watch films uh Home Alone Netflix no no movie that's what they're all doing isn't it BFI BFI oh that feels pretentious we should yeah Sam would know Sam's got um a season ticket to a cinema yeah Sam film that's a that's a thing yeah yeah no he really does Sam's films all the time yeah yeah he goes like two three times a week hopefully not too much of the time hope he's still doing his work well yeah we didn't we I hold two hours of leisure in the evening doesn't eat into it's to it's really funny that like after a long day of video editing he wants to go and see something edited you know what I need now more video videographer needs big video now oh long day at little screen time for big scen SC no headphones son my friend make a videographer squirt my um well it's funny you say that cuz actually does fall in love with what I'm about to say so my friend he's now our friend he's my best friend's boyfriend but he's been around us long enough now he's and he's only just become a friend he's been around us a decade he's just he's just recently poor um anyway um he's a sound he he does like he adds sound effects into film and TV shows so he's got this like huge Bank of sounds and he also adds to it quite a lot and um you'd be surprised like where he gets sounds from like he had his girlfriend eating a grapefruit the other day what did he use that for um I can't think of a polite way to say it say it in the most crass way imaginable like like a woman eating another woman out I've never really thought about the like the architecture of the sound design in a scene like that sorry so did he get like an email from the director being like juicier yeah Mash her up more I only heard about it because she messaged the group chat to be like this is me eating a grapefruit no to be like he's really pissing me off he's making meat like 40 different grapefruits with like an array of microphones pointed at her yeah I remember seeing I think it feels like a one show segment but it wouldn't have been the one show because it was older than that maybe blue Peter where I think they were in they were in the sound design studio for The Archers mhm and it was like how you make the sound of someone walking through snow and he had a tray of custard powder and two Wellies and he put his hands in them and was like that's good fun that'd be quite creatively fulfilling do they not just have a bank no he does have a huge bank but sometimes you want to add to the bank yeah suppose that's quite that's quite a new sound for TV and film we don't have enough lesbian sound effects he uses the toilet flush from our house in second year of uni that still gets regular rolling out cu it was a really as a toilet flash yeah or like squirting it was what this is [ __ ] ridiculous even by our own standards no no no as a toilet flush oh very interesting yeah it was a really quintessential toilet flush sound apparently do an impression I could probably I could probably get up at one of the films for our next podcast and I I can show it to you and you can go that's A's second year toilet flush toilet flush that might be proof for upake what what did you say that might be poor for UPS SEC that might be what poor for operational security he's saying that what I still don't know what that means yeah so what Ed is saying is that you might not want to share that sound because from The Sound someone may be able to identify where you lived in second year at University that is that is the Prem that's what he's just said why would that matter to me now wonderful question why would that matter a joke it was a joke oh my God are there bugs in here I feel like I've been bitten suddenly like quite a bit no I don't feel that way no and shall we do the starer stuff I'd love to do that mhm would you like to do the stara stuff I would have liked to have started on the starma [Laughter] stuff okay and because we're a three yeah we can do the thing where AA sets it up yes it's been ages since we've done that no that's true AA what did K starma say today starma in the Downing Street Rose Garden I love this famous you might remember it from uh Dominic Cummings in the Rose Garden would we say that the rot started in the Rose Garden the Roose I didn't see very many roses today did you well in which case then the rot has set in yeah it must be that new perox side or whatever it is that um Gove makes people Farmers spray on their crops now the farmers who who take care ofers in Downing Street the farmers are all comp complaining about the certain moving on starma today said that the budget that is coming this October will be very painful there's going to be difficult tradeoffs there's going to be big asks of the entire country however those with the broadest shoulders will be asked to Bear the largest burden and it's also not Labor's fault uh they've inherited a 22 million pound black hole they said that they'd never anticipated such a big black hole but which is odd because the ifs actually did did say during the election that it' be between 10 to 20 billion pounds black hole um and the conservatives are pointing out that they've actually got a recovering economy so they shouldn't be as upset as they are do do you I quite like grind set sta where he where he where he's like you can't on him he's like bro he's like bro God sends his heaviest burdens to his strongest soldiers bro carry the load bro who's going to carry the boats and the logs billionaires sake n it's the pensioners yeah um I I haven't really been paying much attention to news because I've been off for pretty much a month couple of weeks yeah you have um legally sorry I was entitled to that time I'm trying to excuse it cuz I was quite shocked myself at how long I'd had off I I liked it I thought it was a novel approach um as opposed to Ed Campbell's which was take your holiday during the general election campaign I felt I should be rewarded for not going to glastenbury it all came good in the end you could have anyway okay so um I thought one thing that was quite interesting was the Joseph rry Foundation during the election was estimating that there would be 20 billion pounds in spending cuts per year both parties manifest indicated that because they weren't going to spend any more fact inflation there was a conspiracy of Silence they did say that and what's interesting is that that is enough to cover the quote unquote 22 billion pound black hole so it's almost like um well this is exactly what was predicted is now coming true think we can file this under dishonest K sta I I think it's really tricky because I think that they were very careful with their wording so for example um when they were talking about tax Rises how there would be no tax Rises on working people right no new tax Rises for working people I think the phrase that's the exact yes um that will probably still ring true because it's a technicality so they're going to go after carried interest and they're going to go after capital gains right so they can make an argument that that is not money that has been earned through physical working it's not been earned PA ye right working people can still pay capital gains can't they absolutely but I'm saying I think that they could skirt around it on a technicality still pay fuel Duty yeah but are they putting up fuel Duty could do they'll probably have to put up the um should there's been a slight relief hasn't there on beer and Spirits they'll probably have to get rid of that I think working people will probably pay that K sta likes to win elections yeah and I think he says what he thinks he needs to say to win the elections and then once he's in power he doesn't really care about the promises he makes or feels beholden to them he's like right I'm now where I want to be so I can actually get on with the business of governing because a as you quite rightly said the [ __ ] world and his dog was talking about the Gap in the public finances before the election the ifs Joseph rry Foundation um rich sunak not that anyone wanted to listen to him but he was telling everyone everyone the lab part is going to put up your taxes any want listen you can't it's not it's disingenuous at best if not an outright lie to say and I accept some of I think there is some spending uh commitments which we didn't really know about on immigration I think it's about 6 and a half billion which is not to be sniffed at but the OB publishes twice a year right State uh sort of the the household accounts for want of a better analogy Rachel Reef said so herself to the financial times in June it's not good enough to say wow W well well wow look what we have here we've come in it's a mess it's a mess and we got to do something about it we've got to do something about it I'm afraid we our hands are tied at this point it's just it's it's it's it's dishonest it's completely dishonest I don't agree with you why I actually think that they have been uh truthful the entire time and I think you had to have your eyes shut to um think anything different I'm afraid what do you mean by that well I don't I think you know throughout the election he told us that there was going to be difficult choices and this was not 97 and I think that you know as as we've already agreed um we knew that there were going to be public spending cuts and he said that I think that a lot of the public just didn't want to hear it yeah he promised nothing and is delivering nothing yeah I I think that he is I I think that he's done exactly what he said he would do but during the election campaign no one wanted to listen to it I think I think I think you're pointing about being dishonest and disingenuous about the 20 billion spending cuts or the 20 billion hole he was dishonest about that but he's maintained that he's going to do nothing and now he's going to do nothing think about a big problem is it nothing I mean it's sry give give nothing is what I should say rather than do nothing CU it's going to be either Cuts tax Rises or borrowing and because they're adhering to the Tory fiscal rules it's not going to be borrowing and there's not much left to cut um well they found it in the winter field didn't they I thought that do you know what I this is what I was going to say I wasn't really paying attention to the news and I i' I'd seen overview that winter fuel um allowance would be cut I didn't realize that it would be um only available now to people who are on pension credit or other benefits that's £12,000 a year it's under that it's like 115,000 a year yeah if you're getting £12,000 in pension credit and you don't have an asset that you can start you know I know relieving equity in or whatever what the hell do you do yeah pension and poverty is a real thing and off gem have announced that household bills would go up £150 um from October why aren't we you know the French at least alleviated a lot of the quote unquote Ukraine pain right because they they the government took on the burden from the energy companies I don't understand how you can allow off gem to push up the price cap and take away the winter fuel allowance I'm quite shocked yeah it's quite heartless um well I thought was interesting was the rhetorical trick he used as the DI diagnosing the country as it is broken it is unbelievably broken and everyone goes yes yes it is UN unbelievably broken and forcing people if they agree with that you saw some commentators almost defending his actions because they agree with his diagnosis it's he's he's he's was almost suggesting that I'm the only I'm right about what we can do about this and if you disagree with what my what my tactics to fix this is you are being you you just being oppositional over opposition sick you're on the side of the Tories and you think the country is good I think some people have fallen for that it's very much like the note that was left to to uh Cameron and Osborne that there's no money left in the treasury right they're making that same claim yeah it's a classic trick isn't it uh every incoming government does it right the last government left things in such an irreparable mess and unfortunately we're going to have to Here Comes the here comes the medicine we're going to have to that you're going to have to administer to you what did you think of him tying the wrers to this as well diagnosing a fundamentally broken country yes and no um I think that I think it's part of it I think the destruction of um the social fabric the the sort of um attack on community and and you know loss of third spaces and mutual Aid or I guess the increas in mutual Aid as a result of the sort of the failure of the state to fulfill some of its what I would say were duties I think that's part of the picture um but it it then kind of begs the question all right so why why are you further cutting the already we already have one of the sort of the most stringent and harsh pension settlements in in Europe um so what's what's the thinking behind that um yeah it doesn't make any sense as well when you think about where streeting plan for prevention in the NHS right so he wanted to try and get people treated at home or treated at their GP or have preventative um treatment whatever if you're going to turn if people can't afford to put their heating on then obviously they're probably going to turn up at an A&E and then they'll end up dead blocking that feels quite counterproductive to me yeah I think I think the sort of banal uh technocracy managerialism I think it lead I think it leads you to this place I think I think starma has capitalized on the politics of apathy um historically low turnout in the last general election um has presented himself as the adult back in the room and without a positive vision for the country if you play to people's um Bas or instincts as he as he has done on things like immigration um you don't just get to say you know it's it's it's austerity that's that's done that's led to these riots um I think he has a hand to hand to play in it as well so yes and no what do you think I think it's interesting suggesting that the last 14 years of government have in some way played any some play some way played away in the RS we saw and then doing the same thing thinking Osborne was right let's do that again and I'm sure the country will somehow be strong enough to survive it unless it'd be so different if he's being like we're going to have yeah really [ __ ] horrible budget for a year and then massive growth he talks about growth in the abstract not what he's going to do with that growth what what that will achieve for the country I think it be much easier to buy in for people if everyone was like cuz he he talks to people as if it's like a team effort he talks to the public as if it's going to be tough for all of us I don't think he quite realizes how tough it will be for people who service the car even further I think the interesting thing and I may have made this point before talking about rhetoric is the gap between I think I said it on the podcast before after that Reef speech before recess the gap between what they say they're doing and then what they do so when she speaks to Parliament she announces the cuts to Winter fuel payment and says you know we're going to have to make tough choices and invokes the language of uh austerity and invokes the language of Osborne and Cameron but at the same day she delivers a multi billion pound pay rise to public sector workers barely mentions it at the dispatch box and there is and I think it's maybe I wouldn't say fascinating but an interesting example of kind of medium management and playing politics that I actually think the actions of the government are on what we should judge them not necessarily the rhetoric that they're deploying the media management strategy that they're employing the the political game playing that they're deploying around it um because I guess one way of interpreting that is you've delivered like a ginormous public sector pay rise but at the same time you're saying to the Express and the mail what are you going to going to do a front page about this public sector pay rise and you know how terrible it is that the nurses are getting paid out or are you going to do a front page about the fact that I'm cutting winter fuel payment let make a decision right um which is I think quite interesting mhm that is interesting I don't think well I haven't heard you say that before I don't she was I don't know if she was be funny if she was sat next to me the last time I said it was I've never heard you say that before I just wasn't listening someone we'll find the clip no I think it was a while ago um the black hole also I think I wonder if they have um they had a real opportunity there to estimate it well I thought they potentially they've underestimated it right because they haven't factored in the 10 billion pounds well is they're going to have to pay the Horizon Scandal victims the blood infection uh Scandal that's like 10 another 10 billion pounds the prisons which are all falling apart which is going to cost billions you know I think they could have really ramped up the black hole rhetoric because if you say 22 billion pound black hole now and then later you go oh hang on a minute actually we keep finding black hole Yeah it's actually 50 we're going to go listen pal you got some holes in that bucket y just makes me so angry and and bittered about Osborne and Cameron and CLE you know because of quantitive heing because of interest rates that were without historical precedent they basically had a once more than a lifetime once in history opportunity to borrow extensively and borrow to invest and do things like build more prisons possibly build a reservoir invest in pandemic preparedness these are all ideas these are all possibilities and now we're sort of stuck in this like having a hypoglycemic meltdown where we're sort of calcified into a sense of permanent weakness where we can't move or do anything because of fiscal constraint a high tax burden anemic growth stagflation and it just makes you think why the [ __ ] didn't they do so what obviously ideology politics but it seems like a once in a generation opportunity that they just sort of passed up on and and they said the tone for the discussion of Economic Policy since but also set the for short termism right yeah there's no there's no ambition set set the tone for sticking plaster politics one might say you could say that couldn't you you could I wouldn't because I've never heard anyone say the phrase sticking plaster apart from kissed armor oh yeah they're just plastered I've never B about that you say a Band-Aid Band-Aid or plaster you say Band-Aid yeah why what would you call it a plaster plaster yeah yeah I think cuz the brand is Band-Aid isn't it only in America I think well I buy all my medical yeah across the Atlantic you come in fully loaded with a suitcase full of Band-Aids and some grape juice I actually get um melatonin in the states that slaps you shouldn't be on that all the time fell I'm not I'm not only when I can't sleep and even then it's which is daily yeah which since why can't you sleep um you know sometimes when your nose is so blocked like because you got a cold that you can't fall asleep like your nose is constantly Running Oh bang a couple of gummies and just it's it Sparks you out yeah you got a sinus problem have you sometimes I quite like the idea that your approach to Parenting is to just take yeah there's just there [ __ ] noise's bang a couple of melatonins oh my um no problem I've thought about it before wake up in the morning you look tired darling I've thought about it before LBC but I'm terrified because I I don't know if you've ever taken it but you are you're groggy as hell when you wake up like you are it's because you've manufactured it's the hormone right that makes you go to sleep you so you have an excess of it so waking up is a bit of a slog um and I'm terrified that if let's say at 6 p.m. on a Friday evening I wanted to fall asleep that I would take it and just [ __ ] sleep through the night so this has to be has to be managed you get up at one right yeah yeah I think that's too tight it's too tight of a turn around that yeah so melatonin and goods from Trader Joe's oh God yeah is generally what I get I am yeah Trader Joe's is really good fun isn't it they they have some kind of chocolaty pretz cluster thing that I will just I think it has like Doritos in it as well flavorous Doritos covered in chocolate I'll [ __ ] smash a got any American listeners but then we do we do do we the EM does remember can we get that post us trailer Jo I met one of the I would really like the Buffalo fake chicken I like that a lot buffalo chicken yeah but it's fake chicken best about America I think what buffalo chicken yeah and also like blue cheese on things that I love blue cheese blue cheese is good can't have that around Sean obviously favorite cheese ooh they probably really like awful V blue Che stinky boy stinky Bish stinking Bishop that's a goody yeah like a really stinky but quite like but like not a so it would go soft if you left it out you know what I mean a creamy smelly cheese you should always serve cheese at room temperature it should be melting I don't know about that though because you ever had Baron BYOD no what's that it's an English one it's kind of like that it's not that stinky but it's delicious yeah yeah strong recommend where' you buy that wanky shops right yeah cheese dealers there's a really CUNY cheese dealer in toova that I've been meaning to go to really do you mean that in that positive sense huh do like you know when people are are like wow that dress is Cy do you mean like that no no I in like it's just for panties it looks I I think if I bought some cheese there it would probably be like the size of my palm and it would be like 40 quid sick but listeners won't know the size of my palm is actually she has massive hands on this table yeah actually a very good deal I've never looked at either of your hands before those are quite substantial hands yeah serious Ms you got some calluses on there haven't you oh all I do yeah you're out doing me all I do is work over you can't see but there was a good yeah I'm so petite so small and Laura comes on here makes me look like the [ __ ] Hulk someone replied on the I'll never ever get over that person who replied on the live chat saying Jesus Christ AA careful while you're waving them B my hands [ __ ] hell you might knock Laura out that is actually what they said they're about 2et wide to be fair huh they're about two wi yeah some serious mths um did we cover all of that yeah I'd say so um do we want to do coverage of Notting Hills racist I mean Case Closed really isn't it yeah there was a Notting Hill racist basically you know oh I got the press releases from the Met X number of arrests so many stabbings blah blah blah and then people you know saying why do we allow this to happen despite it you know having about a million people there most of whom are there peacefully they're just there to to catch a wine and drink a magnum I think it's quite a good argument for like uh police state because um shut it down whenever there is any violence we should just completely shut it down so like we should shut down like you know if if someone shoplifts shut that Supermarket down because it's too dangerous to be open um any incident on a train well there's no more trains now fellas yeah no you're so right looks like you're walking in like any car accidents well that's it we're shutting uh thatcha motorways Motorway um me committing like petty crime at Villa Park to like close the whole thing down I actually didn't go on I'm sure there is petty crime being committed at Villa Park I actually didn't go on Twitter on Saturday for the whole day because I I just saw one tweet that annoyed me so much and it annoyed me because it was some it was a lot of people the Met Westminster police replied being like put a tweet out being like there'll be no um we'll be patrolling Westminster and then all these people replying being like yeah doing [ __ ] all about noting Hill Carnival then and there was like rooms and rooms of tweets like that and then I was just like smashing my head against the wall like all they had to do was Google where is Westminster burough and they would see that it goes right up to [ __ ] Notting Hill Carnival so it was a logistical thing that annoyed me the promotion of idiots on Twitter who know nothing thank you it's been a while since I went to Carnival go back I oh you should it's great yeah no I know it should go it's good fun good fun I haven't been since I was a teenager all he wants to wants to go and catch a wine yeah yeah just vicariously just sort of reliving my youth family day is quite fun yeah that's a real symbol of my age isn't it oh I'll go to family day at Notting Hill Carnival when there are no stabbings and no wines but good food yeah darling will you hold her sorry it's called daggering love right that's enough of that I think okay happy yeah closing remarks let us know if you want to take me to Oasis are you open to invitations yeah yeah yeah might be would you go in the Golden Circle if someone was paying you yeah I assume it's not a piss thing if it was a piss thing I assume it's a Miss no they should go to the VIP area because people will get confused very important pissing oh [ __ ] no just piss just piss the Platinum area and then there's absolutely zero issues there yeah the Platinum Square you like your piss nonplatinum what do you like it bit dehydrated clear you hopefully yeah yeah transparent how hydrated are you like do you think if you pissed now it would be clear I'm not drank enough water today I would say so that's not going to help is it no but I wanted a d c I do drink quite a lot of water though not enough well that today is is not represented of my usual water intake it must be said how many times have you been for a p today maybe twice that's too low all day you've been to to piss twice oh sorry I mean since work maybe three three all day it's not good enough is not those are rookie numbers how many times should I be busy if you got three kidneys I'd say at least 20 I'm a piss machine who's have you three kid you know she got three kidneys bro what does that mean he doesn't trust you look at you suspiciously I've unlocked I've unlocked a new uh bigotry in my head I I didn't know an anti-kidney Prejudice I didn't know it was disc discriminatory against that yeah someone emailed me to tell me how selfish I was once for having three kidneys a boy went to school with had four oh [ __ ] off [ __ ] but they were four small ones like they weren't none of them were like good enough so we had four weak kid yeah yeah yeah they were bad yeah we were like oh you're hogging them no no no I'm not I would like one good one instead my four [ __ ] ones that's like would you buy four single pints of milk or just a four Pinter four painter presumably did anyone at work um at school ever tell you that they had three nipples no there was a boy who had three nipples at oh he is it not like a birth mark thing uh he had a third nipple was it a normal nipple uh I didn't look at it that that inter but it was nipple it wasn't a skin tag or something I actually don't know it maybe maybe maybe it was I didn't spend a lot of time with it where was it it was like about here still on the chest listeners but to be fair he got teased for it rather than showing off for it so I don't think there's a world I don't think there's a school in existence where you could have a third nipple on your hip and you wouldn't be mercilessly yeah children are cruel really is there a world where people are like radical nice one love your third nit brother you have you do you guys get teach teers doing like Tik toks on your Tik Tok for you page American teachers I get British ones do you and like I'm like the thought of a teacher making content about like teaching lessons in front of all of your children and you like what the [ __ ] you got so many children I'm taking my eight 12 15y old if if if either of their teachers any of their teachers making content I think put them map School immediately I think it's quite a strange thing to do TBH do making content in the classroom yeah they should do it the old fashioned way and just be like you guys two men in front of a microphone in a dark studio with a green screen well yeah cuz we're it's our job there's and there's we're not like we don't have a duty of care the state doesn't pay you to make tick TOS we don't have a duty of care to anybody oh that that's your issue is that it's public sector money it's in we all have to tighten our belt over the teachers have to stop Tik to sorry this my my shaming me I think my issue is I think it's cringe that's what I think it is really what do you think is cringe like teachers teaching teach making Tik Tok you think the public sector is cringe no I didn't say that right that's what I heard yeah okay well like again good thing we have a both audio and video of what I said yeah which is that you would piss over any teacher that made content even in their own time if it was in the Platinum Square yeah good for you but I can send you something they bad I'm fine you sure yeah what what were you going to send us does bad bad I think that's more for you no there not I don't I don't I don't like them no no that's the whole point we're not [ __ ] listening okay will we wrap this up yes just L to me should we call it I feel like I feel like we need to call it yeah goodbye bye-bye for