Voters who say they're undecided either 'don't want to say' their decision or won't vote: Dowd

>>> LAST NIGHT THE ABC MODERATORS ASKED DONALD TRUMP SOME SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTIONS ON THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND JANUARY 6th. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION TONIGHT. DO YOU WANT UKRAINE TO WIN THE WAR? >> I WANT THE WAR TO STOP. I WANT TO SAVE LIVES THAT ARE BEING USELESSLY -- PEOPLE BEING KILLED BY THE MILLIONS. IT'S THE MILLIONS. IT'S SO MUCH WORSE THAN THE NUMBERS YOU'RE GETTING, WHICH ARE FAKE NUMBERS. >> TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION, DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S IN THE U.S.'S BEST INTEREST FOR UKRAINE TO WIN THIS WAR, YES OR NO? >> I THINK IT'S THE U.S. BEST INTEREST TO GET THIS WAR FINISHED AND JUST GET IT DONE. >> WOULD YOU VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN. >> I WON'T HAVE TO. TWO THINGS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO GET THE VOTE. >> IF I COULD GET A YES OR NO, YOUR RUNNING MATE, J.D. VANCE SAID YOU WOULD VETO IT IF IT CAME TO YOUR DESK? >> I DIDN'T DISCUSS IT WITH J.D. IN ALL FAIRNESS. I DON'T MIND IF HE HAS A CERTAIN VIEW. BUT I REALLY DIDN'T. LOOK, WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE SHE'D NEVER BE ABLE TO GET IT. >> YOU WERE THE PRESIDENT, WATCHING IT UNFOLD. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU REGRET ABOUT WHAT YOU DID ON THAT DAY, YES OR NO? >> I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT OTHER THAN THEY ASKED ME TO MAKE A SPEECH. I SHOWED UP FOR A SPEECH. I SAID I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE BIG. I WENT TO NANCY PELOSI AND THE MAYOR OF WASHINGTON, D.C., AND THE MAYOR PUT IT BACK IN WRITING, AS YOU KNOW, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG RALLY OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. AND, AGAIN, IT WASN'T DONE BY ME. IT WAS DONE BY OTHERS. >> SO HE WON'T SAY THAT UKRAINE WANTS TO WIN. HE DIDN'T SAY THAT HE WOULD VETO AN ABORTION BAN, AND HE HAS NO REGRETS FROM JANUARY 6th. JOINING US NOW, FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN MANAGER, ROBBY MOOK, AND ALSO MSNBC SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST MATTHEW DOWD. MATTHEW, NO CLEAR ANSWERS ON THOSE THREE VERY DIRECT QUESTIONS. >> ARE YOU SURPRISED? HE CAN'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER BECAUSE THE ANSWER IF IT'S CLEAR ISN'T GOOD FOR HIM. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR HIM ON ABORTION, ON UKRAINE AND ON WHAT HAPPENED JANUARY 6th. >> WHY CAN'T HE SAY CLEARLY HE WANTS UKRAINE TO WIN, WHY IS THAT BAD FOR HIM? >> BECAUSE HIM AND VLADIMIR PUTIN HAVE SOME SORT OF WEIRD DYNAMIC THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO GET ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF VLADIMIR PUTIN IN THIS. AND HE HAS ACTUALLY STATED AS YOU KNOW PUBLICLY, HE THINKS THE WAY TO END THE WAR IS TO ALLOW VLADIMIR PUTIN TO HAVE WHAT HE WANTS. HE CAN'T SAY IT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH PUTIN COMPROMISES HIM IN BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. I MEAN, I THINK HIS ONLY ANSWER UNFORTUNATELY AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE HE'S ANSWERED THESE THINGS SO MANY WAYS AND SO MANY TIMES IS TO GIVE A WORD SALAD, AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID. >> DO YOU THINK IT WAS BENEFICIAL FOR THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN, TO ALLOW DONALD TRUMP TO TAKE CENTER STAGE, GOAD HIM, GET HIM TO TALK, MAKE THE DEBATE ABOUT HIS FITNESS, HIS ABILITY TO STAY ON TOPIC, HIS OWN MANNER? >> WELL, I THINK ANYTIME THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, REINFORCE THE CONTRAST IN THIS RACE, IT IS TO THEIR BENEFIT, AND SO I THINK THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY A HELPFUL MOMENT FOR THE CAMPAIGN. ONE PAUSE THEY ALWAYS HAVE ON ALL OF THIS, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, PEOPLE EATING DOGS, AND CATS, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT HE SAID ABOUT VLADIMIR PUTIN, AND SO ON. WHAT THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN HAS TO GET DONE OVER THE FEW REMAINING WEEKS IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS REINFORCE TO A SMALL SET OF VOTERS THAT SHE UNDERSTANDS THE ECONOMIC STRUGGLES THEY'RE FACING, THAT SHE HAS REAL PLANS FOR THAT. I THINK THIS WAS A HELPFUL MOMENT FOR HER. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TRAP YOU CAN FALL INTO WITH TRUMP SOMETIMES, DESPITE HOW BAD HE MAKES HIMSELF LOOK, HE DRIVES THE NARRATIVE OUT OF THESE EVENTS, HE CHOOSES WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND SO I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF STEPPING BACK TO SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE GET BACK TO OUR MESSAGE. WHAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT HARRIS HERSELF, BECAUSE SHE GOT INTO THIS RACE LATE. THERE ARE STILL VOTERS WHO DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HER, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. >> WITH THE CAVEAT, 28% OF VOTERS TOLD THE TIMES SIENNA POLL THEY NEEDED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HARRIS. THEY DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HER. IT SEEMS TO BE BACKED UP BY WHAT WE HEARD LAST NIGHT FROM VARIOUS VOTERS IN VARIOUS STATES, INTERVIEWS THAT OUR NBC NEWS REPORTERS DID. LET ME PLAY ONE OF THEM. I THINK THIS IS FROM PENNSYLVANIA, A VOTER WHO IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP OR KAMALA HARRIS. >> I REALLY REALLY WANT TO LIKE HER SO MUCH. LIKE, I DO LIKE HER. I DO. >> IS THERE A BUT? >> THERE IS A BUT, BECAUSE, ONE, I DON'T THINK THAT SHE HAS ACTUAL POLICIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. MAYBE SHE WILL IF SHE GETS VOTED IN BECAUSE SHE'LL HAVE MORE TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING SHE IS MENTIONING RIGHT NOW IS REALISTIC. >> SO YOU HEARD IT RIGHT THERE, SHE WANTS TO HEAR MORE STILL. KAMALA HARRIS WAS ABLE TO GET OUT QUITE A BIT OF POLICY, STUFF SHE HAS LAID OUT BEFORE ON HOUSING, ON THE CHILD TAX CARE CREDIT, ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, SHE HIT THE THREE POINTS HOME OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IS THAT GOING TO BE ENOUGH? >> WELL, RIGHT. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS HITTING HIM OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IT'S SO HARD TO PRESS SECRETARY -- BREAKTHROUGH. THIS IS TOUGH. THE VOTERS WANT TO HEAR MORE POLICY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE THINGS AREN'T WON ON POLICY, AND IT'S A BIG MISTAKE WE MAKE AS DEMOCRATS. WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS THEY'RE JUST, FOR WHATEVER REASON, UNCOMFORTABLE ENOUGH. THEY MAYBE HAVEN'T SEEN ENOUGH OR HEARD ENOUGH TO MAKE THEM FEEL SHE'S FOCUSED OR ADDRESSED THEIR CONCERNS. I FEEL GOOD ON THE SUBSTANCE, BASED ON THE POLICIES SHE HAS PUT OUT. BASED ON HER HISTORY, BASED ON HER STORY. YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS AT THE CONVENTION. I THINK THIS IS JUST ABOUT KEEPING THE EYE ON THE PRIZE AND REALLY REINFORCING HER STORY, HER VISION FOR THE FUTURE TO THE VOTERS AND IT WILL GET THROUGH. DONALD TRUMP AT EVERY TURN IS GOING TO TRY TO STIR UP SOME SORT OF CONTROVERSY THAT WILL BLOCK HER ABILITY TO BREAKTHROUGH. >> HOW DOES SHE GET THAT EXPOSURE? IS IT SITTING DOWN FOR MORE INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS? LOVE TO HAVE HER HERE, OBVIOUSLY. >> ALL RIGHT I MEAN, IT'S A VARIETY OF THINGS. THE PROBLEM THAT I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS THAT NOW THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS AN ADVANTAGE IS THIS IS THE LAST MOMENT, UNLESS THERE'S ANOTHER DEBATE. SHE'S GOING TO TALK TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN AN UNSCRIPTED WAY IN A DEBATE, AS OPPOSED TO TELEVISION COMMERCIALS AND THAT, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, A DEBATE IS WORTH 20 CAMPAIGN DATES. 20 CAMPAIGNS DAYS IS WHAT A DEBATE IS WORTH. SHE WON 20 CAMPAIGN DAYS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING I DON'T NEED ANOTHER DEBATE. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER DEBATE. HE NEEDS ANOTHER DEBATE BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THE RACE BECAUSE THE DYNAMIC OF THE RACE IF IT LOCKS IN, LOCKS IN AT A 3 OR 4 POINT VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS MARGIN IN THE COURSE OF THIS, AND THE OTHER THING I'LL ADD IS WE TALK ABOUT UNDECIDEDS. AFTER LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE, THERE ARE NO UNDECIDED VOTERS. THE UNDECIDED VOTERS WHO SAY THEY'RE UNDECIDED AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE BASICALLY VOTERS WHO KNOW WHO THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR AND AREN'T GOING TO SAY. 100 MILLION AMERICANS AREN'T GOING TO VOTE IN THIS ELECTION, 100 MILLION WHO ARE ELIGIBLE WILL NOT VOTE. THE GOAL IN THE AFTER MATH OF THIS IS TO BASICALLY MOTIVATE YOUR SUPPORTERS. MOTIVATE YOUR SUPPORTERS UNTIL ELECTION DAY. IF SHE CAN MOTIVATE HER SUPPORTERS, SHE WINS A CLOSE RACE BY 3 OR 4 POINTS. >> MAYBE THERE'S MORE VOTERS OUT THERE. YOU HAD THE TAYLOR SWIFT ENDORSEMENT. SHE'S TELLING PEOPLE WHO SHE WANTS, NOT SAYING WHO THEY SHOULD VOTE FOR. ALSO GIVING A LINK ON HOW TO