Should the 49ers Trade Deebo Samuel or Brandon Aiyuk?

Published: Feb 13, 2024 Duration: 01:11:10 Category: Entertainment

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what is good everybody Welcome to Stats and cone on the gold standard podcast Network I'm Rob stats Guerrera he is Grant con Grant as frustrating and infuriating as the Super Bowl loss was it was nice to actually get the chance to meet you face to face in Las Vegas last week yeah we kept crossing paths it was really funny there's a million in one media people there there's rob you were working really hard it's a lot of work a lot of walking oh my God it took it was a 15minute walk from our whole hot room to radio row right and it I must have made that walk a thousand times during that week I got my steps in that's for sure I think I sprained my right foot because I have flat feet and I just brought Vans down and I I had no arch support and by the seventh day I was my right foot gave up come on Grant this is not your first Super Bowl cover in the 49ers I feel like that's a rookie mistake I know but I was like 31 back then and now I'm get almost 40 and my body's like what are you thinking oh I did not think I would be laughing 57 seconds until to the show today uh based on what happened in the Super Bowl based on what was said after the Super Bowl we've got a lot uh to get to and a lot to break down and we are going to do that I just want to take one quick second before we do to tell you about our YouTube sponsor Community Tree Service we are super excited that they decided to hop on board this year if you have a yard they will take care of it for you tree trimming land clearing Hazard tree removal home fire hardening debris removal from the central coast up to the Bay Area so give them a call because estimates are free 83176 3239 91 email estimating at cs31 or just go to their website Community tree.com you can schedule your appointment if you mention you're a Niner fan you heard about them from us they'll give you $200 off so go and do that take care of your yard football season's over now you have time to do it go do it and you can feel good because Community Tree Service is licensed by the California state license board license number 100081 six let's start with the Brandon iuk stuff Grant because that was was the news of the day yesterday the Niners are clearing out their locker and Brandon IU gets asked do you want to be with the 49ers next year and he says if it's the right move and then they say well what does the right move look like and he says To Be A Champion I have said this many times with you grant there are some questions that the answer is yes and if you say anything other than yes that means no when Brandon auk is asked do you want to be with the 49ers next season if he doesn't say yes that means he's done with them do you agree I don't think he's done with them this it's it's business it's a negotiation would he come back to the 49ers at the right price I would imagine he would uh just what's the price going to be and does it work for the 49ers that's all this is I don't think he's done with them or is something personal now I do think he's upset as he should be six targets three three three catches like he was way too productive all year and in that game to be sort of not f phased out but relegated to a second or third uh act you know Factor so I get where he's coming from it's an emotional time he was crying about the loss so clearly team needs something to him uh I've seen Debo Samuel and George KD go through uh emotional times too when they're trying to get their contracts so I'm G hold it against him really Debo did the same thing requested a trade came back everyone's best friend now so I Brandon is 25 I understand what he's going through and we could talk about whether or not you think he's worth the $25 million a year that he's probably gonna be able to ask for um that's a good discussion but I I was in the room with him yesterday and he didn't seem like a diva trying to play games he seemed like a guy who was sincerely doing the best he could while I mean grieving more than anyone else I could see grieving I mean he was so emotional they were yeah grief is the perfect word that's what I feel like I'm experiencing it it clearly look like the 49ers players as you would expect we're grieving because the the dream of the season is dead this season is dead it is grief it is a loss that they have to process but I combine that oh go ahead did you have something well I mean and they feel like they they still feel like they should have won they still feel like they were better than the Chiefs and I think they're having a tough time figuring out why they lost that game they still believe they're better than the Chiefs and Brock played well so and the defense played well so why did they lose is it Kyle's fault and if it is like I think that really shakes your confidence as a team like our head coach blew it again everything they said about him is true I I I maybe they haven't even figured out what the story is but it's a tough one it is absolutely a tough one and trust me I'm gonna I'll get to Kyle Shinn don't you worry about that um but I just want to finish this iuk point first course because John Lynch was asked about it when Lynch and Shanahan spoke yesterday and John Lynch was asked is auk's contract a priority and and Lynch instead of saying yes launched into this long answer about well you got to prioritize everything and we've got a quarterback that's gonna have to get paid and like that tells me I think at the very least Grant I think it's fair to say they're open to moving auk for the right deal would you agree I would absolutely agree and again this is negotiation iuk says I might you know be open to going to Vegas and the Niners are like well we might be open to trading you because yeah I mean that's how it goes but I'm just gonna say it I wouldn't trade Brandon auk and I get maybe I do this every time but I really feel like he's proven himself he learned the Playbook he's I mean not a diva he wants his targets but he doesn't complain to the media he blocks he's really everything you want and I think he's still getting better that's the kind of guy and his game isn't built on physicality like debos you could see that one was a that was an investment that may not last long like a lot of his a lot of his value was playing running back and breaking tackle Debo's auk's just a great route Runner who can run every freaking route on the route tree at an elite level plus he's tough plus he blocks plus he's fast enough to be a deep threat I mean he average like what what did he average 17 18 19 yards a catch this year I mean to me that's a safe investment and he's healthy he's the problem is you already gave money to Debo and that's a lot of freaking money to two wide receivers on a team that ranked 32nd in pass attempts this year I believe that's the question is it's not just I think fans are looking at it in terms of should we bring Brandon auk back yes or no but it's not a binary question like that because every dollar you spend on auk is a dollar you can't spend on other places of the team and you already don't throw him the ball enough I mean frankly he if he were on the Chiefs you know what I'm saying if he were on the Chiefs he'd get50 targets a year yeah and that's honestly if I ever him that's where I would maybe look to go although they don't pay wide receivers as we saw they traded Tyreek kill and one back-to-back Super Bowls true but if you're telling me the 49ers could get like a first and a fourth for auk you probably could I would trade him because you can use that first round pick wherever it might be maybe you have to package it with your to move up and get an offensive lineman this draft is full of wide receivers you can draft another wide receiver like I think that I would have to consider that if I'm the 49ers I don't think it's just like oh we have to have Brandon iuk back no and I agree if you could find a way to trade Debo Samuel over Brandon iuk I would do that but it's easier to trade auk with the contract situation Debo's contract it would have to be a post June 1st thing uh otherwise you're going to take a massive massive cap hit so the whole thing is but I think people people aren't looking at the bigger picture when they think about it I don't like it because to me this is deforce Buckner all over again UK's done everything right you know like you traded up for him in round one at the end of round one you got a bargain there he's better than that draft spot and like he improved every single year he doesn't talk he does all the little things like what does it say to your team in your culture if you trade that guy but you kept Debo who's like always like a little overweight isn't really run that hard if he doesn't get the ball and has no interest in blocking like that's the guy you keep the guy because he's he's best friends with Kyle what are we doing what is the culture here auk's the culture auk's the tough guy I mean to me he's the guy who shows up every day of training camp and sets the tone along with Christian mcaffry to practice hard that's not Debo that's not KD sorry KD I mean it used to be KD but he's 30 now this is the guy who's 25 in ascending this is your he could be the MVP of your offense next year I mean what is McCaffrey's shelf life they give him the ball a lot he's a running back going be 28 years old I also it's takes a long time to learn Kyle Shanahan's offense is a rookie wide receiver really gonna be able to do what I could do next year maybe in a couple years he'd be better but this is a team that has aspirations right now like BR uh Brock P's got his last year on his rookie deal coming up this is a this is still the Niners window that's why the Niners are favored to win the Super bowl next year because of the Brock 30 fact so these are all things you got to factor in and why I really would be in favor of keeping Brandon iuk even though in a couple years you might be looking at that contract being like damn $30 million cap hit for 28 years like yeah man I still would do it Debo I think I think the allowances get made for Debo because the allowances always get made for great players I don't think the he gets away with what he does is he can take over football games he can he took over that Eagles game absolutely took over over that Eagles game his best Debo's best is better than auk's best the problem is that Debo's floor is lower than auk's floor I don't even know if I agree with that anymore oh I totally agree with that but here's the thing with a I know here's the thing with auk though he's catching the ball further down the field so to him I mean you would he would really benefit from a team that had a better offensive line yes I mean on this team where the ball kind of has to come out quickly especially against certain opponents like Philly then yeah you a guy like Debo is um more valuable in that matchup but that's sort of because he masks certain weaknesses the 49ers choose to have and isn't it really funny that now everyone's had the Epiphany like you know what this team needs to invest in the offensive line like yeah man isn't that what we said during the draft last year when the Niners took no offensive lineman and people like it doesn't matter it does clearly the offensive line kind of important I'm just saying so we will definitely keep an eye on the Brandon iuk situation 100% uh let's get to some of the super chat CU we got before before we go on what do you think ends up with that BR I situation I guess that's the final question we we said what we think should happen but like what do you think's gonna happen is he gonna be the next to force Buckner he might be I think the Niners would prefer to keep him sure but I think that if a team really wanted him you could get him I think they'd have to be kind of I think there's a like a two draft pick deal where one of them is a first round pick and I think the ners do it can I give you a conspiracy theory real quick I bet you Brandon I youas thinking about this right now Brandon conspiracy theory how come you only got six Targets in the Super Bowl why why why I don't why did why did Debo get all those targets why because they already paid Debo and to pay oh yes business decisions in the Super Bowl hey maybe that's not true but if I were Brandon I'd be wondering it's like how did how did I play that well all year to get relatively snubbed in the snooper Bowl because from his perspective he feels snubbed I don't know well the Brandon iuk only had three catches in every single playoff game year so it wasn't just Super Bowl that's not his fault I'd be mad too he's really good yeah I get how many wide receivers are legitimately better than Brandon iuk how many I mean off the top of my head geez I don't know I haven't really figured this out Tyreek Hill uh Jamar Chase is definitely better than him uh Devonte Adams is definitely better than him I take I at this point Devonte is getting a little old cidi lamb I would put is better than him Deb Mike Evans is better than him no not me too old I mean Mike I'm a Brandon iuk fan what can I say I'm getting my Brandon iuk signed jersey coming I and I'm not trying to to crap on Brandon iuk here you you asked me to name people so that's fair that's fair we're arguing it's cool um yeah the iuk thing is definitely going to be something to monitor um and I I yeah I think that kind of like Debo I think the Niners really didn't want to trade Debo but they would have if they got blown away I think they want to trade auk I think they're more open to trading auk and I think the deal wouldn't have to be as good to get them to do it who was a more complete wide receiver in the NFL than Rand he does everything well he runs every route he is a threat after the catch he blocks he goes over the middle he's fat I mean like he's I don't know man I don't feel comfortable trading a player like this especially on a team that I feel hasn't taken full advantage of his skill sets Debo has been they they take full advantage of Debo they they Kyle's dream of ways new ways to use him could you just spend one season giving Brandon iuk the targets he's clearly earned before you trade him I that to me it kind of reminds me of like the go to go to another sport you know the the Thunder trading James Harden to the Rockets 10 years ago when he was their Sixth Man and the rockets are like okay well we're just gonna give him 30 shots a night thank you very much you guys weren't really using this guy we're going to use him kind of like that and I think it also depends on like what you get back for him right like the Vikings traded Stefan Diggs they got Justin Jefferson like if you can do that of course everyone would say TR trade Brandon auk right like so you know we don't know the second part if they're incredibly convicted about a wide receiver in the draft then sure but I mean like that doesn't always work out you know they tried again they tried this with DeForest Buckner they tried it they traded him they got the first round pick they took another player at that position and it just didn't work out because it's hard to replace divorce Buckner did everything right he was good at everything he improved every year he was a a leader on the team man is that not Brandon iuk I think be a captain if you made him one I think he has that mentality yeah I think so too um yeah so definitely something to monitor for sure let's get to a couple super chats brother Bob we always appreciate you brother Bob YouTube channel member says will Kyle ever win a Super Bowl in San Francisco be honest no Homer no Homer I think that he can win a Super Bowl but I think it's going to take a very specific set of circumstances in games script it's going to be a game it's going to have to take a game where he doesn't have to make any fourth down decisions it's going to have to be a game where he doesn't have to manage the clock at the end of the first half it's gonna be have to be a game where the ners get up big early and never give it back basically I'm gonna say no I feel like he had the best team in the league this year and the better team in the Super Bowl and he found a way to lose um I don't know what what the deal is but I don't really have conf that he's going to win a Super Bowl here maybe he'll win a Super Bowl one day um but it seems like he's his worst enemy I don't know and like for him I think we've said this for for years like he'll have to grow he'll have to change and then J January comes around and people are like boom he's changed he's grown and it feels like I even feel like man I'm Kyle you know I really gotta give it to you and then the season ends the same way every time it's like no and and then and then his postseason press conference happened it's the same you know not taking accountability for anything and it's like oh yeah that's Kyle that's the same Kyle that I bet against all offseason I don't know Kyle I haven't seen growth from Kyle yet I want we all want to see it but I look at him at that press conference yesterday and tell me that's the same Kyle Sahan that's always been here for Better or For Worse that's why I say it's gonna take a specific game script for him to win because he's not changing he's not adapting yeah he need like a non Hall of Fame quarterback on the other side because that some guy who's going to make more mistakes than him sorry or just not the goat right the two quarterbacks he's lost to in the Super Bowl are Brady and Mahomes it's the Super Bowl though like what are you expecting that's you're probably gonna get an MVP type not even yeah quarterback around there maybe maybe he'll get next year maybe he'll get lucky and face that's the problem in the AFC they're all good like all tough yeah it's yeah also it's gonna be the Chiefs next year let's not mess around this is obvious gamon Brown we lost our assistant head coach run and pass game coordinators is Brian greasy up for promotion to offensive coordinator assistant head coach Kyle wants a young DC to groom first of all I don't the Anthony Lyn loss he went to the to the commanders if anybody doesn't know that happened today uh with Dan Quinn and Adam Peters Anthony Lynn is like the most easiest loss for them to sustain they have Bobby turner He's the real running back coach he came back earlier than they thought from a medical issue I think because they weren't happy with Anthony Lyn yeah that's a nothing loss to me nothing no disrespect to Anthony Lynn but I don't think he really had a role here like said they brought him in because they lost that was so weird so they lose Bobby Turner they bring in Anthony Lynn and to entice him to come they make him assistant assistant head coach alienate John Embry in the process he goes to Miami because he was the assistant head coach and the tight end Coach then Anthony Lynn I don't know if they're not happy or it doesn't work out they they bring Bobby Turner back within weeks and now Anthony Lyn's gone it's like okay Bobby Turner's back and they're fine and now you need an assistant head coach the Run game coordinator is Forester the pass game coordinator was kubak you need a a pass game coordinator an offensive coordinator I think they need an offensive coordinator why not and an assistant head coach I could do all three but I would settle for one Rob could do the other I could be the offensive coordinator because I don't have to call any damn plays that's the thing it's hard to get someone to do that job because you know you're not gonna ever call a play I like that it's it's very frustrating um you mentioned gamon mentions defensive coordinator that's another answer Grant where they were incredibly murky and I think part of the problem is of course because Matt mayoko did not phrase the question properly he gave Kyle an out in the question he said well Steve wils at this point in his just ask Kyle Shanahan is Steve wils gonna be back and at first he didn't and and Shanahan didn't say yes and then later Eric Branch CL tried to clarify and say is wils going to be back and Kyle answered but he referenced Mayo's earlier question and said well I haven't talked to anybody yet so I expect all our coaches to be back if me if it's me and I'm Steve wils I'm not buying any green bananas because I don't think he is gonna be back also the way he phrased it was interesting like he wouldn't just come out it it was a phrasing thing so I wouldn't expect I haven't T he's kind of making it seem like wils could a they're not going to embarrass wils more than they already have right they're more than they already have they what they could do is make it seem like this is what a mutual thing right you know we love wils man wils is great but we were sort of asking him to be someone he's not and do something he doesn't and it wasn't fair and so out of resp out of deep respect to Steve wils we sort of granted him this is what the remember Kyle Shanahan did this in Cleveland he didn't want a coach there anymore he was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland and he like wrote a letter to the owner with like 45 reason why he should let him out of his contract like all right man you want to coach you're fine they could do that with wils like he just doesn't want to coach here anymore he doesn't want to I think they're gonna say at this point in his career he wants to be a head coach that I think it's it's it's such a weird situation it was a bad fit be honest on one hand I could say they were successful they had one of the best defenses statistically in the League this year and they allowed two touchdowns to Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl and one came in overtime he's a damn good coach but but did the players ever buy into him no I think there's an issue of respect there I think yeah like I bought in but I don't play for him and I don't I don't understand what's going on there look at the difference this defense came out in the early part of this Super Bowl Grant and they looked awesome they were flying around they looked like the defense they were against the Cowboys and against the Eagles but they had motivational issues in the NFC Championship Game and to me that speaks to I think the players thought this is our defense not your defense I think there was a I don't know if it was a respect issue with Steve wils but something wasn't right there and to me I don't know that you can bring him back next year because I think you would have the same issues I agree I he it was not his defense they undercut him at every turn hey what early in the season he was bringing pressure Nick Bose at a postgame press conference like yeah we're a four-man Rush kind of team uh whenever whenever also he tried to bring a blitz on cover zero in the on the last Drive the Super Bowl and C didn't called a timeout to overrule him it's like you don't let me call what I want you don't let me stand where I want get so get what you want man who do you is what do you want do you want Mike Vel is that what you want go get Mike Vel then I it's not fair to Steve wils to keep asking him to be it's like when you're in relationship with someone you keep trying to change that person it's like that's not people don't change really you either love that person for all their weirdness or you don't and let them go stop trying to change them they're not going to change I have an idea for defensive coordinator and people are going to hate it and they're going to think I'm crazy but I just I don't know I think that they should consider Rex Ryan I really do and part of the reason I think they should consider Rex Ryan is cause this team needs a wakeup call they need a personality in there that I think look at Salah and Deo right they're fiery type guys that's who Rex Ryan is Rex knows defense you could you could rip Rex for a lot of stuff he knows defense he want to ring as a defensive coordinator with one of the best defensive teams of all time with the Baltimore Ravens like I think he won a ring anyway I gotta double check that but he clearly knows defense coaches 2016 dude no no absolutely not no what about Vel no vel's a terrible defensive coordinator he's not good uh I think yeah he was a Super Bowl champion I was right crazy let's get crazy then how about just fire Kyle and hire Bill bellich and win the Super bowl next year yeah he's in his 70s and you don't have a future but you'll be like you know what we're gonna give the best roster in the league to the greatest coach of all time or one of them and just say we're gonna go for this Super Bowl now how about that I would not be I would not support that why because then where do you go after Bill bellich then where do you go after winning the Super Bowl I don't know that's a first world problem figured out and it's not guaranteed that you win the Super Bowl no but you have better chances than you do with you know boy genius I would like to I would love to see if Kyle would just take a flyer and say hey Bill you wanted to coordinate the defense for a year you're not getting a head coaching job your head coach well yeah I'll be the coordinator but then when they fire you I'm gonna take a job okay the whole time being like fire him fire him fire him fire him I can do better I I think it's worth a phone call anyway why not phone call yeah what have you got to lose uh but I don't think Steve if you had to put an amount of money that mattered to you on whether Steve WIS is the DC next year are you putting for or against oh against I'm not yeah that sounded bad that sounded really B it sounds like if they can find another option he's gone and the other option might be in house like they could talk to the players on these exit interviews and Nick Bosa Fred Warner like all them be like you know what we would just like Daniel Bullock he's been here since 2017 I don't I don't understand why he didn't promote him to begin with we all like him I don't know that's not the way you run a team though but that's the way they do it well that's that's I think that's part of the problem yeah uh Mo says Grant what's the offseason show schedule look like uh pretty much the same but I might do a two instead of one on Thursday and Friday so we'll see Yas says ba is special he's a true number one wide receiver Chris says they should trade Debo but they'll move ba ba isn't one of Kyle's guys I think he'll end up in Houston indie or the Jets yeah let's talk about trading now so trading Debo is more complicated trading iuk is easy because he's not making a lot of money and it wouldn't hurt you financially trading Debo is tough trading Debo this year would come with a $21 Million Dead cap hit more than that a little bit more than 21 million if you trade him and that just feels like a non-starter like I'm not I'm not spending $21 million for him to play for another team yeah it's complicated though because you could get something Debo's worth a million worth a first- round pick I would think and if you don't trade them this year look what you got to pay him next year so you got to pay him 28.6 this year then 24.2 next year let's say you traded them next year you still have a $15 million dead cap charge so over the next two years you're still committing like more than 40 million to him and if you trade him next year you get less in return so I would trade him now I would take the dead cap hit not cut if you if you go to the the little drop down menu and click on trade pre-june one that'll show how what the dead cap it would be if they trade him 21.7 yeah that's a whole lot but get them off the books now because you gota it would be 15 the year after and and the return in the trade would be much less get that first round pick I would do it i' take the hit here's the other part of this if you trade Debo after June 1st the cap hit is only 6.6 million this year now yeah but isn't it isn't it spread out to the I don't exactly know how that works but okay it's tough to trade a guy after June one because what do you get in return right not a draft yeah if you get a draft pick you gota wait a whole year right you're not gonna get a quarterback because you want him in an OT so it's that's a tough one trading aftere that's why I'm saying it's complicated I I think if all things were equal I think Debo would be more likely to get traded than Brandon auk I not equal for sure exactly so it's like how motivated are you to get rid of him I if you should really want to keep him with this financial Outlook but he gets hurt every year he got hurt in the Super Bowl weight's an issue for him he can't beat M man coverage he doesn't play running back anymore like I'm very concerned that his value is going to go down quickly and if anyone thinks he's still Elite I'd be tempted to move off of him now now like the eagles did with Carson Wentz everyone thought it was crazy he like no no no no no you don't understand we know we know this it's time it's time I don't think Debo is gonna age well at all he's so physical um yes Williams if they trade him auk or dvo I assume either one do they go for Brendan rice I think yeah there is a part of me that wants the Niners to take Luke mcaffrey and Brendan rice in the draft like let's just keep the family together right yeah the family business yeah uh colid Bry speaking of Rices I'm a family member of an NFL star and when the family's talking it's legit is he willing to take less money I don't think so Jennings can step up is this family member of an NFL star do that don't that they're gonna trade Brandon iuk they're gonna trade Brandon iuk and it's going to be the biggest mistake they've made since they traded Buckner don't do it Jennings is uh he's a fine player but he's not Brandon auk um Jennings is a fine player yeah he's a really good player and I actually like being around him a little more last week at the media sessions and stuff his personality is fantastic like I love that dude just talking to him high energy for sure yeah yeah uh but he he's skill-wise no disrespect to Jawan Jennings who was on track to be the Super Bowl MVP uh he's not at that level uh Adam guard Gardner says please tell me your opinion on this trade Debo for o line use early Draft pick on o line then draft Luke mcaffrey and Brendan rice in the second and third round Luke is a perfect Debo replacement look I haven't really started watching college football stuff yet so forgive me on that but the idea of trading Debo for o line is cool you don't need to have this gadget player in your offense you don't I'm sorry that to me he was a crutch for Jimmy garoo you have an elite number one wide receiver the best tight end of football the best running back in football and Jawan Jennings who to me is a starting caliber wide receiver a starting caliber number two wide receiver that's good you got it you could definitely trade Debo Samuel for a really good right tackle or a a pick that becomes a really good right tackle or a center or whatever but that's that's a great move I mean that's essentially what the Chiefs did with Tyreek Hill look great player Gadget player we're going to let someone else pay you and we're going to invest in our offensive line I think that'd be a money move for the Niners you have great weapons great and I have brought that up with people and the response and I understand it is when you have the greatest quarterback playing today you can afford to do that and that is a fair that's a fair response I thought Brock was the greatest greatest quarterback playing today he's top three yeah I would yeah you didn't even get you didn't even get God mode Mahomes on not the he's not the the threat he was to years ago it's clear he has a few good games a year he had a few good games in 2022 he had a few good games in 2023 dominant games but it's fewer and far between and when they they asked him to step up in the Super Bowl he didn't have that gear plain and simple Trent McDuffy shut him down shut him down that's always Gonna Be Remembered on the big stage sorry I I it was gonna be 29 next year yeah it's time 11 targets three catches no that's not good and he's had the same weakness his whole career he cannot get open against man coverage it's it's true you can't spend 28.6 million cap money on a wide receiver who can't beat man-to-man coverage and doesn't play running back that's too much but then and that if that's what everyone knows about Debo there might not even be a trade market for him so maybe this is even an issue Kenny Kenny 757 I'm poed it's taken me two days to even watch one of these videos in its entirety I'm sick of the incompetence change is needed we can't become the definition of insanity call Bill I just want a Super Bowl win doesn't it I understand why people don't want to go that route Bill bellich isn't exactly a guaranteed Super Bowl and he's not fun to root for he cheated allegedly but he cheated he definitely cheated yeah um but this feels very much like 2020 you lose a Super Bowl it's emotional but you don't want to make big changes and you feel like the core is good and there's a future and so Tom Brady's available and it's like no Jimmy's better than Tom Brady Tom's watched Jimmy's it's like no no don't overthink it you had that opportunity now it seems very similar okay bichi is just waiting there and you're gonna talk yourself into giving Kyle Shanahan another chance when he just blew one I don't know I think people who are less emotionally attached to the team might see it as more of a no-brainer like yeah just go get Belichick and get get the ring but I think Niner fans are so invested in the Kyle Shanahan story that that they have they they want to see it through they're mad at him right now they're mad at him I'm mad at him they're mad at him but they don't hate him they love him and that's why they're so mad but they'll come back they'll come back I am mad at him because he is the reason that the 49ers have owned the NFC for the past five years and he's the reason they've gotten to everything that they've gotten to but he's also the reason they don't have a Super Bowl championship it's both and that's what's so frustrating about it well put well put but if that's the case and he's built this up and he's he's going to be the reason they never get across the Finish Line then at a certain point you got to say Kyle thank you so much for everything you've done for us you are responsible for this Juggernaut that you've built now we got to take it from here thank you so much and I know that's not now well I'm not saying it's not now but maybe it's not now but at a certain point if that's who he is you got to make the hard decision Jed I know you like him but you made the hard decision with Harbaugh and I thought it wasn't because you didn't no they made the decision with Harbaugh because he hated his gut right it can't you can't be making personal decisions this is these are business decisions Jed well but here's the thing from a business perspective Kyle's great for business they make the playoffs every year they go deep in the playoffs every year they get home playoff game like Kyle's great for business if you're just looking at it from that perspective I think that's why as an owner you're looking at it from the perspective of winning a Super Bowl and if you feel there's a coach available who gives the team a better chance to win a Super Bowl you owe it to the organization to hire that guy so I'm not saying Bill bichi definitely gives the ners a better chance to win a Super Bowl but you got to investigate and do the math talk to someone do the analytics because it's debatable guys won a lot and he's done it with teams that aren't as dominant as this one yeah it would be in terms of the overall roster it would definitely be one of the better teams belich has had uh the other thing is they just announced a contract extension with Kyle I think it was like a sixy year extension right last year going anywhere yeah you're not gonna what's that how much money he's getting per year right I mean because you're not gonna cut Kyle pay him not to coach and then have to pay bellich you know it's never gonna happen right it's never gonna happen Chris Tarico Debo's best is a top five running back Ba's best is a top five wide receiver Ba's floor is the fourth Target getting 1300 yards you need to a top five wide receiver they already have a top five running back um I don't even think they tried to use Debo as a running back in the Super Bowl he got nowhere I I think no the novelty of that play is over yeah it's over generic name thank I like that says Doo's floor is lower but he's also at his floor more often than auk there's no debate to be had here this the thing there are too many games where Debo does nothing yeah yeah and it's like nothing on 11 targets it can't happen right it can't happen he's had every opportunity probably more than he's deserved the last two years it's time to let that go and start giving guys like Brandon auk the the opportunities that they earned deserved MO is back McLoud made a business decision not jumping on that punt looked like he could have incurred a serious injury if he had agreed or no here's my problem with McLoud he absolutely should not have tried to pick that ball up and run with it he needs to fall on it and for him to say well I don't regret it you got to take risks and I'm a playmaker dude you haven't made any plays with the ERS all your biggest plays are fumbles Ray Ray fall on the goddamn football but Ray Ray McLoud needed to be a big name in the super just fall on the goddamn ball fall on the ball Ray Ray like he's got to be off the team off the team next year yeah I agree because that loss is so painful I feel like just looking at him is like PTSD like oh I'm back oh no I'm in Vegas no yeah sorry I gota also John Feliciano gotta go that was a hole that was a hole got to go so I want to say one thing real quick real quick because as this the off season goes on the few people who made the biggest mistakes are gonna just take so much heat and one of the guys who make made the biggest mistake in the game was Spencer berford he admittedly missed his assignment on the final offensive play okay uh big mistake and he'll have to live with that the team will have to live with that also want to say that he's a 23-year-old guard who started way younger than Aaron Banks he's got a bright future he just needs to get a little bit uh Stronger but that's not what I want to mention this is like the most painful loss of these players careers and not every player handled it that well or could really talk to the media about what happened Kyle certainly didn't I mean he didn't take any responsibility yesterday in the locker room all the stars came out and gave their little spiel about how they feel and what they're going to do because that's their job and they're paid to do it Spencer berford comes out no one asked no one's like we need to talk to Spencer Spencer berford just walks out in the middle of the locker room and says what do you guys need I'm here to talk and there's a whole group around him and he goes through it I should have had him I was responsible for the BP it was my fault like do you understand how hard that is that's the hardest thing an athlete has to do with the media and he didn't have to if he hadn't no one would have noticed or said a damn word about it he did it anyway with that really shows it doesn't show that he's going to be a great football player but he shows that he has deep down maturity and character and strength that we would all aspire to have so I I was you learn about people in losses not so much in wins wow learn about Spencer berford learned about George KD immediately after the game he sat out there and was gave the best explanation of what happened um he was phenomenal as opposed to again his head coach which makes me feel like look at how much that young man has grown since he was drafted at 23 George KD look at how much this coach hasn't anyway I just went on to tangent Spencer berford extremely impressive you don't know much about these offensive linemen they're very nameless and and and voiceless but man he uh showed his character after this game and he knows what he's gonna get when he's admits I ignored the scheme and I went rogue like when he says I played on Instinct and I should have stuck to the scheme he knows what's about to come down on top of him because you've got a whole fan base that's infuriated with the team and looking for someone to point their angle he knows pointed at me because everyone was pointing at Colton mckivitz and real quick not to make excuses for Spencer berford I don't think he was like dropping back thinking screw what the coach has told me to do I know better I think things happened fast there was a blitz he saw a guy in front of him he blocked him he made a mistake but I don't think he was like out there going rogue as you pointed that makes it seem like he sort of made a conscious decision that he knew better I think he reacted and made the wrong reaction and again in his defense he hasn't been playing much playing much and there are times in a football game where the scheme is not necessarily the right thing to do sometimes like it's like hey yeah the scheme says this but this is the circumstances that I'm in and so I'm gonna adjust it's just I think crit he didn't make that excuse he just said I messed up I did the I think it's it's more a credit to Steve spagnolo cracking the code and exposing the flaws in Kyle Shanahan's protection because they had 10 free rushers in the game thank you it's easy to point the finger of Spencer berford should have picked up this one guy on this one play yeah but that was a constant issue for the entire offensive line the entire game and even if Spencer berford did pick up the right guy there would have been another free rusher right it wouldn't have been Chris Jones but it would have been the linebacker like they were in a bad spot so it's easy to point the finger at the 23-year-old backup guard who comes in filling in for John Feliciano who can't keep his mouth shut but really there was a more of a probably a design flaw with this issue I mean they got out coached but complete completely agree the character that Spencer berford showed is fantastic and and that he should be proud of that because we always knock players when they don't show up or we nitpick them when they don't say like that's what that was the model dude is 23 wow crazy Rod 16 when I was a teenager I grew up watching the lemonade stand it was great it tasted so good with five Super Bowls the lemon management would have fired Kyle Shanahan already oh the lemonade de right I I see the reference that he's making you can't say stuff like that before the other thing that always haunt Jed is that when he said weeks ago Champions act like Champions before they're Champions dude dude you wouldn't know what a champion acted like wow don't say that stuff because you may never be one and that's just a punchline yeah especially yeah Champions act like champ make yourself a punch just please generic name We complain about Chase but Debo shows up like 10 plays a Year yo that chase thing really didn't work out that was so interesting the arc on that chase thing it was like uh Washington doesn't know what they're doing trash franchise you put Chase here with Nick Bosa Chris ceric it's going to change his career it's GNA change our trajectory it's like no you see exactly why Washington didn't want him we don't want him we don't want it's like goodbye Chase gota go he got the like in the first game he got the sack where he and Bosa met at the quarterback and you're like yes it is gonna work and then he disappeared and then Lo beh allow me to reintroduce myself my name is Chase and I don't play that hard in the super he had a fantastic sack blew by the offensive lineman and then put it into cruise control the rest of the game man sorry Conor n our front office is not committed to being a consistent Contender if we keep Debo and let auk walk he's a top five wide receiver and has great chemistry with perie I mean you have been a consistent Contender the past half decade so I would say that the front office is committed to that I know I I I sort of agree with Conor sentiment though I guess what what I was saying is like this guy's done everything right he's he's a big part of your your culture he's a team leader he's one of your best players ah don't make the Buckner mistake and I know some people feel like that wasn't even that big of a mistake didn't cost them arm saids great too well it cost them because you paid hardgrave in free agency that's the thing when you miss in the draft you pay in free agency they missed with Ruben Foster Quan Alexander was a thing they so if they trade auk for a draft pick and they miss with that pick then they'll be spending a lot of money on some other wide receiver who isn't iuk in a few years Max Morlock YouTube channel member says please get an OC John John Lynch do something yeah I don't uh we'll see I like the idea of getting an LC why not man delegate more Kyle you've been a head coach for a long time delegate more Andy on your game management for the love of God it's Nick says this loss is on QC for not making sure Kyle wouldn't blow another lead py love the show guys Grant please keep Kyle's feet to the fire next year he did not he did not like your question Grant when you said assess your offense and he just said every play is different did not like your question I thought that was like the tamest question one could ask yep and he pleaded the fifth to it no he he's gonna say he didn't plead the fifth he just gonna say I don't like Grant and I didn't want to answer his question but it's not just my question it's everyone's question George KD said the offense sputtered everyone says Brock py played great so what happened man are you going to blame Christian mcaffrey like it was your fault so what did you I could have said hey man you didn't how would you assess your performance as a play caller but what was what was up with the offense each play was different yikes you scored 22 points dude you scored you gained a yard in the third quarter basically what the hell happened it's it's a fair and and that question is that is an open-ended question it's not it's all have they answered it I they haven't answered what happened on offense in this game it s wasn't Brock's fault they've all said that and I agree it wasn't Brock fault so what was the deal was it was it 100% the offensive Line's fault I don't think so I think it was bigger than that I think what happen on those drives in the third quarter is Kyle sees second and long as a passing down and I think he should have run the ball on second and 10 and second and 15 I really do I agree he also sees third and short as a passing down dude you have Christian mcaffrey you're you're in four down range you can absolutely run on third and four at the end of the uh fourth quarter and at the end of the O over time what's wrong with that because you know what the Chiefs don't want you to they really don't want you to hand off to Christian mcaffry on third and fourth they don't well not only that but at the two-minute warning you throw an incomplete pass you stop the clock if you run it you either run time off the clock or you force the Chiefs to use one of their two timeouts thank you why did you stop the clock on your oh our protection didn't hold up at what point in this game did your protection hold up how many free rushers did you give up and you like oh man I'm so surprised that on the critical third down of the game we act gave up a free rusher like that was the theme of the game you can't block this team run the damn ball I thought they should have run on the the third down before or right at the two-minute warning and they should have run it on third and four in overtime that was that was my have another chance next year to ride chrisan mcaffry to Super Bowl but if he gets hurt and like running backs eventually do and breaks down then you'll feel really really bad it's the same thing that happened with the Niners in the Super Bowl with Frank Gore It's like man you had it he was you you were there you had Frank Gore in his prime what were you doing and that was your last opportunity to do that with him over TI seeing Super Bowl drives die at the five yard line damn it these Geniuses just won't give the ball to their running back it's been happening for years ra 49 don't remind me 49ers don't need a top five wide receiver they need a big possession route running wide receiver that's willing to block and get less targets the system doesn't call for a superstar wide receiver but they can change the system you know Kyle always talks about using the players you have and designing the best system you have for those players what I would say is the Niners don't need a wide back they need like I think they could literally replace Debo Samuel with Jawan Jennings dbbo samel went down for parts this game with a hand J Jawan played like a starter he plays like an old school flanker who goes over the middle possession receiver um you could get someone else to be a freaking Gadget guy and those Gadget plays aren't really doing much for you anyway anymore anyway you have the best gadget guy in the league and you're not getting anything out of him so forget it you don't need that anymore offense for when you have Jimmy garel and you can't do that much now you have a really good quarterback and the best running back no you don't need that anymore it's a fair argument I think Debo's gotta go Sor Kyle is Eagles era Andy Reid similar stuff yeah I just hope we don't have to wait another 16 years for Kyle to get his first Super Bowl Andy Reid didn't get his first ring until he was 60 Kyle is 44 so let's please they're different they're way different I I don't I don't just because Andy Reid had a certain Arc KY Shanahan's following that I feel like Andy listens to his players more Andy's open to feedback more Kyle thinks that he's done everything right that's the biggest issue is that Kyle still thinks that he did everything right and that it's just he just hasn't he hasn't done it how do you change if you think you've done everything right you don't you don't and if you're the kind of person who can't ever and this is do you know people like this in your life who it's never their fault ever you you approach them with something you expect them to be like yeah that one was on me obviously you know it doesn't mean that I'm a bad person doesn't mean that I'm a mess up but I I I'm taken that that's do you know people who will never ever ever do that what I don't rock with people like that like people like that tough to deal with they're tough to deal with people who are just never ever at fault okay so now I'm at so now I have to fall on the sword every single time did you see Travis Kelce on his podcast today no they were talking about the overtime decision and Travis Kelce is literally laughing at Kyle Shanahan he says you know the benefit of getting the ball second and overtime is that you get the ball second and you know what you need that's an advantage for that team and you just gave it to us I tweeted it out at stats on fire you can go look at it not now this is our time but you can go look at it he was laughing the Chiefs loved that Kyle took the ball first that's exactly what they wanted Kyle shanan to do and the fact that he he pointed to oh the analytics of it and I think get matched up it's absurd it is absurd that he took the ball first in overtime doesn't it seem like Kyle Shanahan made a decision based on God knows what and then try to sort of create an explanation after the fact and it kept changing at first it was like well we didn't want Patrick Mahomes to get the ball back well he is gonna get the ball back the rules are different oh oh uh no no no we um we wanted to get the ball third in case we both scored because we wanted to finish the game okay uh no no no no our defense was tired our defense was actually a little exhausted and it had just been on the field for 11 playay drives we wanted right all right man well you you get back to me when you know why you did what you did but clearly it seems like it was the wrong thing to do even after the game Kyle was specifically asked did you choose the ball first because you wanted to give your defense a rest and he said no no he was asked twice I was right there then yesterday in the post game in the press conference he kind of brought it up and then Lynch specifically said oh also our defense was really tired it's like no dude you you had your chance also failed also someone just put it in the chat it's true Kyle said he wanted to get the ball third that wouldn't have worked because the chiefs were going to go for two of course and why because why would you kick the ball if you're Andy Reid why are you gonna give the ball back to Kyle shanan when you could say I've got Patrick Mahomes we're two yards away yeah let's go do we have a better chance of converting a two-point conversion or holding or not even giving up a field goal to the 49ers exactly I'll take the I'll Trust Pat I'm gonna put this in the game of Patrick the hands of Patrick Mah on my defense yes and the fact like it took him days to figure out the right Alibi these guys were under interrogation and it took him days to figure out the right Alibi and it's I'm sorry they it's clear they didn't know what the hell they were not prepared you can't I don't think anyone could sit here and be like yeah the Niners clearly knew what they were doing in over time like no they didn't know they didn't know and that's and that's why they lost to Super Bowl so asked everyone's like man this one hurts way more Bren I you couldn't freaking talk Kyle's like well it hurts more because we lost in the overtime no no no no it hurts more because you didn't understand how to navigate playoff overtime that's why let's be real clear about this that's why it hurts because you the head coach didn't really know the rules or have your team prepared for overtime in the Super Bowl and you should have won and if they were prepared those players think they would have won and they probably would have I mean this you should have went for the the for the touchdown on third on third and four going forward on four fourth and four because if you don't get it then again the Chiefs well whatever you should have went for the Chiefs are 90 whatever yards away or they're at the nine yard line so 91 yards away but you're not if you're already planning on the third possession you've already planned on not stopping the Chiefs anyway so why wouldn't you go none of it makes sense it's just a stupid argument by Kyle uh jaled says we could have done everything right we still would have lost it it was predestined to lose you need an elite quarterback to win it we're fooling ourselves again with Brock it wasn't predestined now that's the thing even with all the weird crap and the Chiefs got a lot of Lucky bounces there were seven fumbles in the game the Chiefs got six of them back like a lot of bounces went to Chiefs way but even with all that yeah don't let Kyle off the hook it wasn't predestined no they didn't do everything right Kyle blew it the players know it and I that's why this one's gonna be so hard to sit with they did everything right they did everything right the players didn't do everything right I mean well no it was both but they still could have won it even with those those mistakes true I mean like of course uh Ray Ray made a mistake and berford made a mistake but like the stars of the team pie did everything right iuk did everything right Samuel didn't show up but like KD did I mean he converted that for he didn't get opportunities the big Bosa showed up the Armstead showed up everyone was there and and Kyle Kyle did a Kyle it's like Dak pulled a Dak you it's like that's disheartening because they can't coach him they can't what are they gonna do I mean who's coaching Kyle to not make that I don't know what's going on over there is there an umbrella or something that's about to Umbrella I'm trying it's like I'm trying to block out the Sun so I get a little less but then there's wind but it's all right I'm holding it down all right we have a bunch of super chats and we're getting to the end of the show crazy Rod 16 Jed York stock stock option group is not so great they remind me of the 90s Bills team that always lose in the Super Bowl he really shouldn't have said a word before the Super Bowl man that was a mistake I agree Chris Tarico what do you do after hoodie if you get him who cares Shanny ain't the guy it doesn't matter who you do get if you're the guy you if the guy the same argument not to not get Tom Brady like okay but he's 40 something and what what do you do after you win the Super Bowl like that's I love that question we'll worry about it then but what do you do after you win the Super Bowl great question we'll figure it out yeah it's not a guarantee that you win the Super Bowl bich though no it's not Andre gabbe says Kyle needs to hit in the draft having good players on cheap contracts is a must and the Niners just lucky py doesn't make much o line Edge defensive back wide receiver are all needs yeah this on Drake Jackson uh yeah I think they gave up on Drake Jackson sorry Drake West Bay Niners talk top priority this offseason is work on the offensive line I think they will but they should have done it last year did they just have this Epiphany that's amazing the offensive line is important it it blocks for the quarterback maybe we shouldn't have guys that we cut earlier suddenly become unquestioned starters and just you know throwing it out there Chris T Rico problem isn't the core of this team the problem is the coach that is the change that needs to be made until then they won't win a Super can I just say something real quick though like one offensive lineman who had a really bad game that people won't talk about Trent Williams he didn't play well at all he was get knock corners on running play he was whiffing on on blocks he didn't play well but I think the thing about the the the offensive line to me is that was the issue really them getting beaten physically beaten or the protection schemes not working it seemed like it was more of a schematic thing than like a a talent thing honestly yeah I agree I think it was more from the neck up than the neck down for sure generic name we all agree Kyle raises the floor of the quarterbacks but we refuse to acknowledge that it has a cost he also lowers the ceiling to below that of the elites I don't necessarily agree what I don't like about Kyle is it seems like he turns his quarterbacks into robots like in this game you had Brock pie just dropping back back a lot like can you get him moving please can you get him on the Run he's so good throwing left throwing right when he's outside the pocket in the pocket he tends to get his passes knocked down a little bit you know why because he's my height and that's okay but come on Kyle like he's not Tom Brady I know you want to have pton Manning as your quarterback he's not pton Manning can you get him on the run a little bit please do what works for him not works for you I thought the Chiefs did a good job on a couple of those play action bootlegs of not taking the bait and they were able to get uh pressure on Brock there was one play where Brock had to just Chuck it to Jaan Jennings who lost like eight yards um so that was a credit the Chiefs the chiefs were on it man the they out coach the Gold Rush 561 wils needs another year Deo and Salah are 0 and three against the Chiefs going back to 2018 Salah may be the defensive coordinator after next year once he gets fired from the Jets who knows Chris Groves uh because that's happening I'm now doubting we'll win with Kyle end of regulation around the two-minute warning run the ball every play you can't tell me Christian mcaffry Eli Mitchell can't pick up the yardage Mahomes can't beat us if he's not on the field that's the other part of this grant when you're playing against momes and Brady the only advantages you have the only thing that those guys can't overcome are the rules of the game number one Patrick Mahomes can't beat you if your offense is on the field because the rules of the game do not allow it he must stay on the sidelines and the fact that the chiefs were didn't have all their timeouts like you had to convert that third down Trent Williams said it in the Huddle if we convert this we can milk this clock down so they knew I just ah I really wish they ran it there you know who the Niners most efficient running back was in the Super Bowl uh Kyle e cheek El Elijah Mitchell Elijah Mitchell at least Elijah Mitchell will be fresh next year I just to me it's like he every time he gets to the Super Bowl or big game it always feels like he doesn't run the ball enough like that's your identity you have these incredible running backs multiple and you're you you lose because you couldn't figure out pass protection like yeah okay great I don't know what to tell you man it seems like you're really good at running the ball passing is an adventure for you for a lot of reasons and that's how you lose okay better luck next year Master any craft Debo's hurt his route running is trash keep baa fishing chip says Kyle bleeping hates going off scheme players are scared too uh we the faithful thanks for the Super Chat that's a that's a lot of money uh nothing is going to change no one is going anywhere they will be back in the playoffs next year and maybe a Super Bowl improve on the right side of the o line and at nickel also I see them trying to bring back aiz yeah you're gonna have to replace greenw because he's not g to be back I think he's gonna miss all the next year first of all it's injury happen in the Super Bowl second of all it's an Achilles Like I think this is a Navaro Bowman situation where he's never going to be the same again unfortunately well I hope I hope not I hope not but for him I mean it's been 10 years hopefully medical uh technology improved um rooting for Dre green L like him a lot love Dre green lot underrated player fish and chip says a tendonitis too it's like he put that it wasn't totally random he knew he was risking that and he did it anyway so another guy who deserves man he's made some huge freaking plays for this franchise massive yep underrated player fishing chips Kyle has an OC he's called Dad that's funny and it's probably true Gregorius Greg says put him on the freaking sideline Mike can we F finally stop saying Kyle's an offensive genius please folks can we hire his dad he's a better head coach no like two things can be true Kyle can be an offensive genius and not win a Super Bowl like both of those things I get N I don't think you can get the genius tag until you win a Super Bowl he could be a lot of things but I'm not gonna use the GW with him then why does the whole league run his system I'm not using the g-word I'm res I'm reserving genius he's a he has a great system he's very clever he's very smart is he a genius when he wins a Super Bowl he can be a genius not until you win I'm sorry you can't just throw the word genius around all the time no it has to mean something Rob yeah no okay Chris Tarico Gotta Love Kyle get CMC to not run him Christian McCaffrey did have 30 touches in the game let's just acknowledge that trade up to number three to draft a quarterback and not play him have a running back getting six yards per carry sitting on the bench 2019 Super Bowl don't even have Debo on the field in the second half genius the Kyle the Kyle criticism is strong today and I understand it because it was there's plenty there to criticize Scott 49 the Debo because it's hard I mean you can't just blame it all you can't just say like hey okay well if we replace derell lutter junor Spencer berford and Ray R McLoud will be good like no obviously not right obviously not so it's a it's a dark time I mean four years ago you could say all right well it's Jimmy's fault or or you could say Nick Bosa got held we should have won you can't do that this year although do that this year Nick Bosa did get held but that's neither here nor there Matt mun says Debo three playoff games 141 allpurpose yards zero touch well that's not true he had touch oh you're saying three playoff games this year sorry I I thought you were talking about big West Bay Niner talk says trade Debo also draft Malachi Corley he's literally another Debo I mean the whole League's been looking for another Debo and they haven't found him yet so let's let's not be too quick to put that label on people chance 99 please don't blow off the question in your honest opinion what will it take for Jed to move on Kyle uh stop making the playoffs and going to NFC championship games let's talk about finding the new the next Debo real quick going back to the next Debo you don't need to find first of Debo isn't Debo anymore he's not a wide back he is not a wide backback anymore he's a wide receiver who catches screens that's what he does and you know who else does that Rashi rice for the freaking Chiefs compare their numbers this in the same numbers as receivers you can find a guy who catches screens and gets yards after the catch you you can find that guy in round two round three you can do it not trying to find another wide back because you have a guy named Christian Caffrey you don't need a freaking wide receiver to play running back anymore that's that's outdated crazy stats after green law went down Burke had nine targets nine catches allowed one touchdown 134.5 pass the rating when targeted rest up green law yeah I'm not going to like kill Orin Burks like he he did the best he could he's a backup linebacker but the Chiefs rightly exploited it there's that audio from inside the NFL where Mahomes looks over and says hey 57 just got H over there they knew which how could you not analytics say two-point conversion is about 50% marching down the field to score is 40% so what was what was Kyle saying about getting it last is based on analytics Kyle's explanation for that whole thing is bogus so don't even waste your time thinking about it because it's dumb William Carter thanks for the Super Chat uh Aaron a trade KD instead he's slow unathletic and not spry I would be fine with them Trading anybody at this point to be honest with you I said they should trade KD two years ago so I mean yeah I said get much for him at this point yeah I said KD wasn't goingon to finish his contract and he got all mad at me uh fish and ship says BP won the other Playoff games by going off scheme I mean I don't think scrambling is necessarily off scheme but okay nobody went off scheme in the Super Bowl they're scared of Kyle Shanahan well you can't say that they weren't scared in the other Playoff games but they were scared in the Super Bowl I don't buy that I will say though that his scrambles against the line with the difference in the game and momes runs in the Super Bowl were huge so yeah Brock and afterward yesterday Brock said he wants to work on his Mobility like yeah good for you I thought that was interesting yeah two things he wants to work last year he was like I want to work on my pocket passing like nah work on your Mobility baby arm strength and Mobility were the two things he said he wants to work on that' be interesting to keep an eye on Jay Garza YouTube channel member says what do teams always say at the end of the game don't let Mahomes have the ball last same as true in overtime with the Super Bowl Kyle gonna Kyle that's what I said that's why it was dumb uh Mike drops with Mona what's up Mike drops uh do you see a situation in which Kyle walks no I don't see that he's not walking away from all that money no no Matt mun they will move on from wils and say they're going in a different direction without saying it he will be the unspoken excuse why we lost and the 49ers will say see that I think there's a 50% chance that that happens 50% yep yes they they'll phrase it so they may be trying to figure out how to phrase it right now right Mutual parting Mutual parting uh serenti says Kyle shanan is a robot players follow orders like a robot no because Ray Ray McLoud didn't follow orders when he should have falling on the punt and didn't because he tried to pick it up Spencer berford didn't follow orders when he said he was playing on Instinct so you can't say that about all the a little robotic though a little late to react in the moment again if you've seen Grandma's Boy and you know what I'm talking about he always has reminded me of JP and if the Niners ever if there ever is a brock pry movie I think the guy who played JP should play Kyle Shanahan although a lot of people feel that the guy from freaking um Spider-Man no the other one succession the oldest son in succession Jeremy Strong the he would be really good too anyway Mike Mike drops with Mona Debo can't be traded High contracts penalties is too high yeah we talked about that a little earlier it's complicated uh Kev expensive one way or another true the window is closed only NFC tough Lions up next h i don't I wouldn't say the windows closed when your quarterback's 24 it's tougher but it's not closed sucker free grant how do you feel about Eric benmy becoming the head coach and Ron Rivera defensive coordinator what h no didn't they just have no didn't they just have that pairing in Washington I'm good um they bring in bemy as an offensive coordinator that'd be kind of interesting Mike drops with Mona bich bemy sounds better than Kyle Revenge three the revenge tour the whole Revenge thing is over like no fish and chips we blame Kyle because it's a pattern of brain farts at this Point yes I agree yeah William Carter Kyle's an incompetent Booth both coach I don't know the only thing that he's a genius about is losing the big games that's can I can I just touch on that really quick no the idea that Kyle Shanahan can't win big games is flat out incorrect he has he said the big game not not some big games a big game the big the big game not big game if you're talking about Super Bowls that criticism is fair but they've also won a lot of big games like he's eight four in the playoffs in his career I saw him go down 17 nothing on the road in week 18 of the regular season against the Rams and come back and win I saw them go into Seattle in 2019 needing to win to get the number one seed and they won that game so he has won big games he hasn't won the biggest game but come on let's not hey well when he gets inducted in the Hall of Fame you got to put that in your speech when you write it for him he didn't win the biggest games but he won some big games and like a really long explanation yeah cuz there's nobody in the Hall of Fame doesn't have a Super Bowl ring hey man I I still think it's so dumb that Marv Levy got inducted at the hall of fame like for what for what you mean for what he went four straight Super Bowls did he win any of them so no see that's no you put Marv Levy in the Hall of Fame and not George Seaford get the hell out of here they should both be in the Hall of Fame I agree they okay if we're picking one I'm picking the champion the five-time champion not the zero time champion who exceeded expectations in Buffalo cool you don't have go be in the Buffalo Hall of Fame how dare you disrespect Marv levia on this program how long Jewish too why did I even say that shout out is Kyle's leash right now I think his leash is as long as it's ever been he just got a new contract yeah yeah it's his Le it's six years long six years oh my God super chats keep rolling in here serenti says designing individual great plays is genius likee orchestrating plays in a winning symphony is Genius Coaching cop coaches copy his schemes not hisis there you go no one says no one said he's a genius decision maker clearly he's not but like as a play caller he is like he is like we can acknowledge both it doesn't have to be by no not no I'm not throwing the G word around that's that's my that's my personal preference West B Niner talk do you think the Niners will find a right tackle in free agency or do it to the draft I think they like hold M Kitz Mike drops with Mona Kyle playoff record overrated NFC has been trash for four years well then why hasn't anybody dup how come anybody no one else has duplicated it well the best the NFC but they're I mean every time they faced a good AFC team this year they lost yeah but we're talking about the NFC the NFC is such trash why can't anybody else being the best team in the Big 12 he's like is it really an accomplishment yes okay well then then then then fly that NFC uh Championship Banger Banner proudly do it chis because that's all you are that's all you are right now yeah quiet put it up there have a whole ceremony we almost did it we're pretty close to our goal I got two more of these Chris says I saw Kyle up 10 in many games and lose them no he actually doesn't lose that many games when he's up if you go back only the Super Bowls I'm sorry yeah kind kind of that's the sad part about it and only against the goat unfortunately fishing ship says Kyle Shanahan playoff six and0 the first two rounds two and four the last two games God why am I laughing at this dude's misery right now I'm sorry I'm just Kyle hasn't made oh last game I see what you're saying two and four the last yeah like obviously he hasn't like we're doing this thing that we do when people don't win championships where we're we're saying well you didn't win the championship so nothing else you've done has been impressive or good in any way it's not just that he doesn't win the championship though Rob it's that he finds ways to blow double digigit leads every time three times in a row like wow it's hilarious and it's like you're sitting there he gets the double digit lead in the second quarter you're like he's not gonna do it again he's not gonna do it again and this time he does it because he didn't know the rules he found a new way no incredible he knew the rules incredible wow it's it's actually kind of funny he knew the R I gotta say I don't root against I'm kicking my feet up I don't root against Kyle Shanahan per se but this whole narrative this whole story line of him being this close to Greatness and not being able to like grab it is becoming funny if you for the team it's not funny at all but it's like dude you're this you're this close how can you not get there it's been five years it's like you remember you in like WWF where they have the King of the Ring and they have to like get up the top of the ladder and reach the it's like man you've climbed the ladder 800 times and you always can't like it's funny it's almost funny it's like slapstick it's almost slapstick at this point with the 49ers he's the reason that they they haven't won it it's him and it's to me it's undeniable at this point but that also doesn't mean that nothing else he's done has been good or impressive those are two separate things I think the most impressive thing he does is his ability to be to get this close to winning a not it's like no one gets closer to winning it all than him it's like he approaches the finish line and then turns around and walks away every time it's amazing it's very impressive restraint it's that's he just wants to keep the inry going he understands there's a lot of drama and as soon as he wins the Super Bowl he's not as intriguing anymore it's all about Intrigue thank you Kyle yeah Kyle's all he's all about the content creators that's Kyle Shanahan thank you everybody there's over a thousand people watching right now please like And subscribe we're not going anywhere Grant's gonna be pumping Out YouTube content allna fly away I will be as well like And subscribe to both the gold stand and Grant con's YouTube channel we really appreciate if you click the little bell you get notified every single time we go live and of course rate review and follow the gold standard podcast Network wherever you get your pods Grant it was a pleasure to talk to you it was a pleasure to meet you and uh we'll talk next week we'll talk next week

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