Were ALL MomTok Couples Secretly Swinging?! | Vulnerable Clips

and I've always wanted to do film but I just didn't know how to get there and I've created this circle that's helping me get there and so I'm and I'm really grateful for that because before when I wanted to it's like I don't know like where do I go like Google where do I like you know what I mean like I'm in Utah like I don't know yeah there's not a ton well there is but they say they made some movies there they did High School Musical yeah High School Musical is definitely there and that is the series that they make right Loki auditioned to be a dancer on High School Musical you should I didn't get it you look so young you absolutely could have lame yeah yeah no there's a lot there's a lot that goes out there but I want it to be bigger I want to be with the big boys and I just feel like I've done what I can in Utah that I want to take that step yeah I mean sometimes you have to take like risks and I think as a mom you you have a lot of judgment even not as LDS like you have a lot of judgment for ever investing in yourself yeah and so you know um like with this company like my husband and I kind of we created it and so it's like any time I've had an idea if he's backed it it's made it that much easier and and for me not to second guess it like right now I'm not with my kids yeah and I miss them so much right it's like [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm here and I should be with them and like this one has like swimming and piano and I'm like missing that and it's just you you feel like a tremendous amount of guilt to invest in yourself yeah no absolutely especially since I'm like let's move to California everything's here it's a big move yeah no it's huge would you ever consider maybe like Orange County or and then like kind of commute we did we looked into that okay but I just I want to try La for a few months and then if it's like okay this isn't for us then yeah yeah we'll go link down to Urban or something Irvine's great yeah that's where I lived I lived like in Old Town orange is really sweet or Costa Mesa Costa Mesa yeah there's there's a lot of really great people there in churches and whatnot a lot of influencers there too oh really yeah well there's like well no I guess some of them moved now like Savannah she's not LDS but uh the labrant family was there okay yes and they moved to Nashville but um but yeah I mean there's tons of folks that it's a beautiful place too to shoot content but you're like no I want to shoot yeah it's like I'm trying I'm trying to like Rebrand where I'll I'll always be creating content I love it I'll always do that but I'm trying to Rebrand where people see me as not a tick talker but as an actress and I know that's going to take years but but you're like okay with that yeah you're okay with that and you've got such a thick skin already with everything that you've just gone through yeah God yeah so how are you going to avoid more cancellation oh God not sure anything of my life a very unproblematic person yeah and so it just feels very strange to me how like randomly people will come for people and then like it's your job um as a public person I suppose to like not quite manipulate it but like use it as like your superpower yeah no I've actually I'm actually grateful for the times that that has happened because it's helped me navigate for when maybe it will happen again like the way I navigated the whole Tinder thing with Connor help the or sorry rewind what happened with Liam in the hospital when he had RSV um getting all of that hate was far worse than what happened with Conor but I just feel like that really Made Me Stronger to then deal with that and then I'm sure with that and I mean there's always going to be something people are always going to nitpick people are always going to find something to destroy you that's so heavy you're absolutely right the word destroyed truly is it because if you realize that it's like that heavy then your relationship to like I I have plenty of really positive uplifting messages and then those one negative comment on any one of my platforms can like really take take a hit in my day and my mental I just feed into it so if somebody should I say God like this haircut looks horrible I'm like oh my God I know like what do you think what color do you think I should do next time or something like that like something stupid like just play it off cool like it doesn't affect you because I think when somebody knows if they're looking for a reaction a negative reaction like they're just gonna keep crying and just trying to do it I'm like great like engagement for me keep coming back I was gonna say we call that fan Behavior yeah come on yeah you actually secretly want all my attention yeah bring the haters you love me that's cool so then where who are your Inspirations then creatively like who do you want to be like I said Emily Blunt but is there like somebody that you see and you're like that's the career that I'd like to have um girl I want to be myself I like that that's really dope I just think I've never seen I've never seen a content creator go into the acting industry I've never seen that switch so I'm like okay well then I'll be the first one to do that and see if it works that's so cool yeah I love that I'm also extremely jaded and protective and now I want to like I wanna I wanna be like no I'm gonna be like yeah check it on you I'm checking I will check in on me I will absolutely be watching your content and I will absolutely be checking in on you thanks I can't help it it's it's part of this like parasocial world where it's like you feel like you intimately know people and of course like we don't know everything right of course and we also don't we don't need to or want to know the extent of the pain of like living through that stuff let me ask you this so Mom talk is there a reality show coming or not um I can't say anything about it I'm just kidding I totally I totally had to ask TBD I love that they will honestly they and I know that somebody had said that they were following you guys around with a camera on yeah like I assumed that maybe you guys were doing like a pilot or something of it yeah and then maybe shopping it out because there's obviously such an appetite for it yeah and y'all are so interesting and cool and beautiful um but it was I I had to laugh because folks asked me to interview for like Austin Housewives or something yeah I was like why would you think that me what about me screams Austin a house okay but you would slay oh yes like absolutely I guarantee you I feel like these hoops are coming off and I'm [ __ ] fighting somebody and they'd be like no no that's like New York this is Austin you need to chill the [ __ ] out and I'm like well you hired the wrong [ __ ] I don't know what to tell you right we all come from somewhere um yeah yeah I'm not a huge reality show fan but it is kind of weird how Mom talk became a reality show for folks yeah and I was like this is this is wild yeah so what was can I ask you what was what was the part what was your part in all that and are you good with that have you said goodbye to that I didn't say goodbye okay [Laughter] I mean to that I don't know to that person I don't know I didn't say goodbye to the show mm-hmm well that will be help that would be helpful theoretically speaking I say with quotation marks yeah um reality shows like are so different than they were like when Disney Channel was big and you're growing up and stuff it's like it's not you don't have to be an elite wealthy person to like no yeah now it's like bachelorettes get so many sponsored deals yes and you can become a brand yeah but I also think that you're like a really great character because there was a reality show yeah I'd be rooting for you good I'm the funny one you're the funny one but you're also beautiful and you've had your [ __ ] happen to you and people have come for you yeah and I I mean honestly like say what you want about you know Taylor Frankie Paul yeah um she's been through a lot of [ __ ] over the last few years and everybody wants a villain and when they're beautiful even better yeah um so I my heart goes out to all the moms everywhere that have to like struggle and and uh don't know we don't have all the answers right we don't and like the shitty thing is is that like what I do like about um tiktok is that like moms of tick tock they tend to come to each other's Aid more often than not yeah but I don't know your experience because like I think that there is a lot of really judgy moms yeah I don't know if that's a different fyp [Laughter] D no there definitely is I'd say in in my circle no absolutely not that there are not there's support yeah absolutely yeah that's good um it's interesting it actually made us closer that whole Scandal made all of us closer because when that Scandal first happened I like completely disassociate myself from that group because I didn't want to be associated with swingers did I play off the clout absolutely absolutely I was like Mom talk guys let me tell you you're so smart to to lean into whatever because you know you're so smart Whitney you know that and this is something that I've I my my my Elder Millennial self is like really just getting comfortable with with like how I titled my YouTube videos and like people always come come hard on me on it I'm like you literally watch Like a Dude eating like as many hot dogs as possible in a minute and because you think that's hilarious it's like everyone is going to click on the thing that's the most interesting thing that's just kind of the language of of social media yeah and the most like flashy the like by virality yeah virality of it all and so you but what's so cool about it is that it took me years even after having been in this traditional media yeah to like be okay with that and you're like ahead of the game because you're like that'll pass yeah even it affects my family like we are we have a thick skin and we have a community absolutely yeah yeah I wasn't worried about getting caught up in it but I was just naturally associated with it which I didn't it really didn't bother me can I ask you a question yeah I I didn't see like swingers are a very specific thing yes swingers are actually like people having intercourse with each other yes and there's a pineapple thing and it's upside down and like people have like Resorts where they go and they and and it's completely fine and it's a little hedonistic but like they know that and they're like we're all good it's almost like adult adult entertainment right when I'm speaking I've spoken to sex workers and entertainment and it's just like this like thing of like we all trust each other and we're all here yeah it didn't really read to me like it was truly swinging but that's just me it read to me like folks that didn't have a lot of sexual experience right that were like Curious I know with some couples it was full-on swinging but with some it wasn't yeah and that's the problem is that like they all get lumped into this category category of like you were straight up you know yeah that's not and there definitely was some falling out with some of the moms um but I say generally there's a group of us that just we're just the bestest of friends like I'm just so grateful for them that's really good are they going to come to California yeah they're actually coming here this weekend no way everyone's gonna come to VidCon I'm going to VidCon one should come they would love for you guys to come release why not what mom talk can come anywhere and people will be excited you guys need like matching t-shirts and I will buy it no there's an event in um Dana Point yeah yeah thanks so much for checking out this clip for the vulnerable podcast for the full episode go ahead and check out my YouTube channel that link is in the description thanks again