Week 2 Running Back Rankings for Fantasy Football

It’s rude to skip intros you know what it y week two running back ranking debate where we rip through our top 36 consensus rankings you will see mine you will see Adams and Andrews Adam first time joining I know you've been a long time listener nice to have you on the couch buddy absolutely I appreciate you bringing me on the couch today is going to be the debate you guys have been all waiting for all right yeah I see you guys have saquin all the way up there at one I'm staying strong with him down at three I'm anchoring his ass down there you know what's crazy is um I do have him at one that's crazy and I also saw that of the running backs like last week surprisingly saquan topped out at the highest speed surprisingly after all the offseason chatter if only if only he can rip off a big play I know if only I'm still probably going to win that bet somehow well it's if they're making lines on it it would be sincerely in your favor for someone not to run a 60- yard touchdown but you know what we're here baby we're here if he's good if he's truly the number one back in the NFL right now he's good enough we got time all right well here's what we're going to do we're not going to run through every single player but we we will give you the rankings that we have consensus and then we will jump into guys that we probably have the biggest dispar dis discrepancies dis disparity dispar discrepar with throughout the rankings all right and if at any time you just don't want to hear us Yap anymore you can go to bdg doco and just get our rankings there by being a big dog member all right so that is a monthly membership that you get access to the rankings waiver wire rankings a private Q&A our dynasty rankings all that good stuff uh the cheapest way to get that is by going to Underdog fantasy.com or downloading the app and using promo codee bdge when you deposit $10 or more you'll get the membership for free for the entire season these running back ranking videos will go up every single Wednesday we will also have a separate wide receiver rankings video go up later on Wednesday so subscribe to the channel for that we'll have another video for that at the end of this video we'll each give you a deep cut at the running back position and we'll go into our favorite streaming options at quarterback tight end and defense as well to wrap up the Jordan mason video so make sure you stick around for that everything that we talk about will be time stamped down below let's talk about the rankings we've got saquan consensus up at one Bree at two bejon at three no huge discrepancies there they're obviously in your lineup and things get a little spicy when we get in the 45 sixish range because Jordan Mason we have consensus down at nine because Andrew's kind of anchoring him down at 14 you and I have him up at five and six now we just saw him dominate the New York Jets front s on Monday Night Football I think it was 8 carries went over a buck 50 total yards a touchdown and we just got a report saying that Christian mcaffrey is I would almost put him in the doubtful category at this point it said a long shot why why are you the way that you are full disclosure you know we are making these rankings Tuesday nights and so we got that oh is yours not updated no it's it's updated as of last night I haven't updated this morning but that being but to be fair he just updated his and you could have been like I want to move him up from 14 don't speak my language group we'll allow you in the group chat last night you told me don't do that [ __ ] that's fair that's what you told me super super fair but we also just had the open discussion right now where I'm like you want to move it up fair enough all right well go ahead we'll give you your chance now do you want to keep him at 14 going once going twice kind of kind of want to keep him there all right so you did so that was that was a whole last bit why are you the way that you are let's let's have an actual conversation about Jordan Mason because I do think that there's a good chance that he outperforms my 14 ranking uh given the circumstances this week now that being said I just kind of looked at myself and I was like if I have to make a start decision in my lineup and and have these guys on my team am I going to start Jordan Mason over a James Cook I probably wasn't going to do that if it was my team really am i g to start him over a Derk Henry I know why no I'm not going to do that it it that was just kind of the decision for me that being said I still view Jordan Mason as kind of this lowend to mid-range running back one this week I know 14 kind of doesn't say that in the rankings but I think it's more so a range of outcomes he's more of a running back one to me the way I'm viewing him in my lineup they played Minnesota this is just not fair they they played Minnesota the matchup I mean maybe we look back I promise that is not going into my ranking at all no no no I I I I think that's fine I'm just saying like uh it's easy to look on paper and be like Minnesota's a much better match up than the Jets there there's a chance we look back and just be like the Jets are a run funnel defense where their pass defense is great the interior they're dine lost in pieces and maybe they're not as good as we thought but the push that San Fran had and this is the thing with like the the San Fran running back group is like it's CMAC sure he's Elite but every running back produces when they get the starting chance there Jordan Mason looks so good all the hype in the preseason about him looking great like came to fruition right away there wasn't a single running back that got another touch in this game and they ran the offense through Jordan Mason so like sure he didn't catch any passes that feels like just a one game sample siiz product if he went out there and went like four for 32 through the air this week that wouldn't surprise me whatsoever I don't think they're automatically just being like Jordan Mason can't catch let's take screens out of the equation let's say catching the ball for a running backs out of the equation so Jordan Mason for me if you're telling me I'm going to get a dude who's a Bellow in the ners offense at running back like I agree maybe we're a little bit too high like top five maybe a little bit of recency bias I think down at 14 having him outside the top 12 outside of James Cook who's like probably like 30% chance to score a touchdown I think we'll probably look back and be like yeah I should definitely should have started Jordan Mason over James Cook I think looking very critically at my rankings like just having him at 14 could have the argument that he could be 12 for me because I could put him over James Conor I could put him over Kenneth Walker this week but that's kind of where I'm like all right James Cook I know you just said he's being vultured by Josh Allen that's kind of a conversation that we can have I still think he's going to get enough work between the 20s and in the receiving game that he's valuable but and then Joe Mixon like I'd just rather ride the hot hand with Joe Mixon in my lineup so that's kind of where I'm at I mean I I was going to say though last week as far as total touches go I believe Mixon was the only running back that got more total touches than Jordan Mason yeah so just in general volume is King at running back right right but then you tell me that there's a guy that's going to get basically 98% of the valuable touches in an offense that just doesn't need talent to perform at the position the game script's going to be there too it's just it's just to me when I'm ranking weekly I I I agree with you that it's like all right starts hit decisions what am I going to do if I'm not willing or you're not willing to put Jordan Mason into your lineup in front of damn near everybody after last week I just don't know what you need like I what do you need to see him do or anyone behind this offensive line do this is just so like look at what's going on in Miami anybody can churn through this offense the way that they had the Zone read and if you're telling me they're going to get 60% of touches like sometimes in Miami they can go off this dude we could miami backfield be looking back at what he did last week and be like okay the Jets actually aren't that bad this offense is just ridiculous and when they're ahead just going to keep giving the ball to Mason I will say having him in that 12 to 14 range though that there is no reason why he should not be in your starting lineup he's going to be in your starting lineup no matter what facts yeah let's just make that point like if you have Jordan Mason he's in your starting lineup you're starting him in your rb2 slot you're starting him over just about every single Flex option you could possibly fine so let's keep moving down let's talk about the Miami running backs a little bit we've got aan consensus at 8 uh we have Raheem moer all the way down consensus 36 which feels right after last week's game but both of them Mis prac practice on Tuesday they're obviously playing on a short week Thursday Night Football Jaylen Wright the rookie explosive rookie uh was a healthy scratch for this one Jeff Wilson played now we don't know the status usually if you're missing practice on Tuesday and you have a Thursday night game there's a good chance that you miss that game they're playing against Buffalo Jaylen Wright came out I don't know if you guys saw this Jaylen Wright came out and said they're banged up but I expect them to play but I'm just staying ready in case the opportunity comes so he's saying he expects him to play like obviously I feel like it's always a terrible idea to take a players word for it like all they do is lie about [ __ ] like T Higgins was 100% speakon speaking of Jordan speaking of mother lying all my man didn't fumble on the field but he fumbled as soon as he got off you see how sad he was like why I don't talk to the this why I'm upset I'm going to start using that [ __ ] just RI off the biggest game of his life and he's like I'm just getting [ __ ] on right now and y'all are asking me about when I knew I was going to start imagine imagine Shanahan pulls like a bill B do you remember uh is it Jonas Gray it was Jonas Gray was it Jonas Gray Jonas Gray forgot to set that alarm don't forget to set your alarm he did not set his alarm Mis practice or whatever was late I'm just say what if he after five touchdowns pun himo is the starter for S Fran and we're all like this is fantasy football at and then and then somehow Andrew's argument of 14 was too low yeah for sure you nailed it uh okay so Miami we got aan like I said up at eight Raheem oer down at 36 it's tough for us to really you got something well I was just going to say on this point though like it's actually interesting how sometimes you can find cories just a year ago do you remember when aan had not played for about four games in a row they went into the buy coming out of the by they like he's supposed to be ready to go but he missing practice he played in the game people put him in the lineup and then he would like immediately exited so to me even if he goes out there Thursday like we're doing on a short week in the NFL they're coming off of playing Sunday they're not going out there and hitting [ __ ] like this is going to be a walkthrough type of of environment anyway you can't suit up for this it makes me think he's not going to play now if he does play even if he does play I think there should be reason for concern that we're not just giving him the 18 touches that he had this week that's what makes it so tough I would also say too like everyone's going to get super excited about Jaylen Wright like Jeff Wilson was the one that was active and he's like one of those vets that coaches just trust right like he's annoying for f have Mike McDaniel and like the Shanahan tree whatever Jeff Wilson is a Shanahan tree guy where they trusted him in San Fran they're going to trust him in Miami sure like if ha and moer are both inactive how do you rank right Jeff Wilson let's start there I would go Wilson over over right over right really yeah I actually think I agree with that I don't I saw I saw a meme on X today it was like who was active week one Jeff Wilson who's been productive in fantasy before Jeff Wilson who's blah blah blah Jeff Wilson who do I want to start Jaylen Wright fact well that's just for The Vibes but no I mean the thing with Jeff Wilson though is like he was the he was actually so if you want to talk about Jord Mason and pivot it into like Jeff Wilson was the old Jordan Mason right the guy that got no run for a while and then finally has been in that system and has the the traits to be good he's 28 now and he's washed so let he his work will be annoying in the way that he does not have the upside though that Jaylen Wright would have in this offense so that's where for me you're telling me we're down to just Jeff Wilson and Jaylen Wright that's a game where I'm going to be extremely concerned with Jaylen Wright if he doesn't go off at some point does it does it worry you at all I think it's a little bit understated that Buffalo defensive line looked pretty good in week one they held James Conor to just 50 yards yeah uh he got into the end zone so he saved his day obviously but it he they had a pretty decent day on the defensive line they yeah they look good I mean Arizona offensive line is not great I I don't know that we learned a lot from the Buffalo Arizona games to be quite honest with you ex said Josh Allen is him Josh Allen is him but Arizona's defense is also terrible so like we'll we'll see how he looks with his receiving group without playing against like a they're playing against a real defense that hurdle touchdown was nuts insane so before we get to Buffalo and start Switching gears if a Chain's out of the the lineup where I have him right now is I believe eight right yeah I have I almost feel like like you said if he's active I almost feel like he's if hn and mosa are both active that still makes it so [ __ ] it kind of becomes muddled now yeah and if if A's out I would probably put Jaylen Wright in the range of like Kenneth Walker really yeah wow I couldn't do that I think I would have that feels a little risky to me because just cuz Jeff Wilson's in the mix really if Jeff Wilson got like 14 carries wouldn't surprise me do do do we not think Jaylen Wright would like to me Jaylen Wright is the perfect type of back to get give me 12 to 15 touches I agree in the Kenneth Walker range though Kenneth Walker's upside and his are probably very similar with him getting 12 to 15 touches honestly I would rank both of them in the I'm saying between like I'd put him in between 15 and 20 probably if they were both out and it was it was Wilson and right i' probably have right closer to where like I have DeAndre Swift I was 28 Jeff Wilson and Jaylen Wright would both be somewhere in that Jerome Ford to DeAndre Swift range they would both be backend rb2s highend RB 3s for me so you're telling me in the best case scenario for Jaylen Wright in week two you'd put him as a rb3 best case best case scenario you have to you have to play the outcomes the spectrums here sure of like there's risk and reward there's a j Jaylen wght you have to admit that Jaylen Wright's floor is low of course but what I I feel like while there's definitely a case to be who what is the floor of running backs 26 and down really not that great none of these guys have Great Floors Swift has a bad Flor yeah they all have they all have bad floor so I'm saying it's not like we're we're we riding on some safe floor anyway give me the upside shot most of these guys don't have upside I would also argue for the most part though that when you're in that range that we're talking about you're looking at these uh that where you said jome Ford down to like uh DeAndre Swift we're talking about like lowend rb2s maybe Flex running backs and in most of those situations when you're looking at the flex as well you have to consider the wide receiver position and I would say that some wide receivers are better plays than a lot of these running backs in the flex sure that's fair they also have a lot of tough matchups in that in that area I got to actually change his [ __ ] when we excort him from fantasy pros they don't put the match up for some dumb [ __ ] reason there you have it I mean Jaylen right to me could end up going from Zero to Hero very much like Jordan Mason who's like oh this guy's yeah got a little name cache because of something he did in the summer but could be irrelevant Jaylen Wright could be a guy that's a healthy scratch to what the hell just happened very EAS that said you guys I I just want to conclude with kind of this part on Miami you guys mentioned that if hn plays you feel like there's some risk with hn yeah you're still no questions asked throwing him into the starting lineup though right if he's active he'll probably be for me likely in my starting lineup but I would definitely move him down he wouldn't be like at this point this ranking I think is outdated because like at this point we're only assuming he's either not playing or he's active with some injy designation probably move him down to like Travis etn raand tier fair I I just can't imagine for me at least personally I can't imagine a scenario where hn is suiting up and I'm putting him on my bench yeah I can't do that no it's fair I think in that range though he's probably he's probably your Flex you can't bench him if he's actually active but the the other concern I will bring up and I think this is probably more like big brain and less you know one week of fantasy uh real analysis it's like one of the concerns I had with Jaylen Wright and I think this was something something that I heard from the beat reporters in Miami and why he was probably healthy scratch is because they were like he's still like a raw Runner and he still has problem like hitting the holes and that was one of the things I noticed like on film and I'd watch him throughout the summer and the Miami offensive line is bad which is why like they lose all their pieces this summer and I think that's why Raheem moer struggled so much I also heard a little bit too is it it kind of dealt with special teams as well with Jaylen Wright like he didn't have enough of a special teams role to where he wasn't going to be valuable enough week one yeah that yeah that could that could make sense that happens a lot in week one where like a player doesn't have special teams role and then they're like all right one thing happens and like where you're active now and you're getting touches and stuff like that so it's going to be really interesting to see Thursday Night Football you guys will know by tomorrow that's another reason why though I'm Jaylen Wright it does not does not have a special teams role so when you're looking at guys that are making the 53 or not if you don't play special teams your ass is but that's great because if to me that's just like all right well we we know we there's one thing we're going to do with Jaylen Wright if we put him in our lineup and that's give him the ball in the off well I think I think we all knew in especially in the dynasty format like we all knew that Jaylen Wright was the eventual replacement here for Raheem I mean that's what we hope but yeah I will say this is kind of if you're a jayen Wright owner MH if Jaylen Wright plays well there is a chance that now going forward like he he starts to eat into Raheem Mo's role correct after week one how worried are we about Raheem clearly you guys are quite extremely extremely yeah I don't know how much I don't know how much more worried I could be this was one of the this was one of the like big takeaways that I didn't feel like we were overreacting to because after week one what I'm trying to do is like get a grip on what real position group groups are in the NFL because it's really tough to know throughout the Summer where like for instance like Cincinnati right you always just think of them as a good team but it's like okay their defense is actually something to really worry about and that's something we need to know it's like oh in your mind you're like Cincinnati is just a good team like they you know Pittsburgh Baltimore they always have good defenses like Cincinnati is not a franchise run like those types of teams are I'm worried about that side of the ball it's something we talked about a lot this this summer again they lose Robert hunt they lose Conor Williams rer is not involved in the passing game whereas hn is so that's where it concerns me now H's getting the goal line carries too that's exact I was willing to give I think that's partially showed by my ranking of of mostard I was willing to give him one more week to kind of just let's double check this and make sure this is legit but the thing that was the most worrisome for me last week was the fact that it's it's good for hn but it's bad for mostard the five like within the derrick Henry five yard line it was Devon aan yeah and and moster like a guy that's basically a supposed to be another really fast track star that just did not look explosive 31 on a short week like my boy I'm I don't know how much more concerned I could be a long career and kind of just a one- hit wonder with last season's production yeah so yeah extremely worried about Raheem moer not good not great um let's keep moving down we got Derrick Henry at 10 Joe Mixon at 11 James Cook at 12 James Conor 13 Alvin Kamar 14 Kenneth Walker 15 Josh Jacobs 16 Rashad white 17 etn 18 ra Andre 19 Brian Robinson 20 anyone in that batch of players that you want to hit on uh I got a four spot difference from you guys on on Henry so I think we can touch on that just slightly to me you know Henry didn't look great in week one I wasn't super impressed with what I saw the game script was a lot more competitive and then obviously we all saw a lot more Justice Hill than we probably wanted to see and that does look like that is going to be the kind of third down roll for justice Hill he's also going to be a change of pace guy two-minute drill the only thing and the reason why I have Derrick Henry at six this week is I do not expect this to be a competitive game against the Las Vegas Raiders you know what the spread is is it the largest of the weekend guess the number is nine and a half [ __ ] spot on yeah hell yeah literally n and a half yeah dude ask the GU already so you know it's it's in my blood that being said uh I say travesty that you're not a Raiders fan honestly he's he's a closet Raiders I know he's not I know they weren't in Vegas when you were there but yeah but that being said uh I think that they're going to lot of fun to make fun of you a lot during this game it's going to be not very close and when that happens they're gonna grind out the clock there's gonna be a lot of Derrick Henry and there should be quite a few goal line opportunities for him in this game as well so that's super super valid I think the game script goes in his favor I don't really necessarily have a worry about him he's obviously a top 10 guy so he's he's in your lineup I guess you know looking at Las Vegas they were outside of the JK Dobbins obviously like ripped them apart with this 60 yard run 45 yard run whatever outside of that they really contained doin and Gus though they were like really you know in the interior that defensive line in Vegas is very very good so if Baltimore has more struggles on the offensive line that could be a problem for Derrick Henry but overall yeah this could be a game where he ends up scoring multi multiple goal line touchdowns I think when if you're if you're Baltimore you go back and you're watching film right you're like okay the first drive we went out there and just kind of broke Kansas City's will and then they answered really quick and we just went away from the Run game so the thing with Derrick Henry is he's not even in his prime he wasn't someone that just normally came out and ripped one off the rip he basically continued to break down your defense and then all of a sudden he's ripping long one so I I think there's much better days ahead for Derrick Henry but over under longest run for Derrick Henry in this game 26 and a half yards rhamondre stevenson that feels about good I that was a good line thank you uh listen I I do this [ __ ] I'm gonna go under under I'm gonna go over just because you said under because then one of us is the bound to be right mhm for sure all right let's move on to the juicy part of the rankings we've been talking about dudes like everyone's starting in their [ __ ] lineup I think we got to I think we got to get to the valuable stuff the Rhino the 20s and and Below down here the Rhino the Rhino who's the Rhino Rand Stevenson stevenin I was actually going to go outside of the top 20 but we can we can get there we got raand at 22 rre okay well consensus 19 rre 19 BR Rob 20 JK Dobbins 21 Naji 22 deont 23 and Jerome Ford at 24 so ra Andre I have at 22 you guys have 181 19 so he's a backend rb2 I guess the way I'm looking at rre is he looked fantastic in that first game in my eyes that's a product of two things like one the Cincinnati defense and two Gibson came into this game completely like injured he barely played in this one now I don't want to take anything away from rre there's obviously a chance that he's just a lot better and maybe this offensive line is a little bit better than giv credit for this feels like to me one of those things that's going to be a little bit of an overreaction for the rest of the season where like one of the things that you talked about a lot this off season or a lot of the guys that you liked the Joe Mixon the James Connors the saquon Barkley was like I'm okay drafting these veterans I'm okay drafting like older is backs on really good offenses those seem to be a very good bet this year I don't want people to confuse what ra Andre just did with being put into that category because the New England Patriots are not going to be a good offense what happened in week one against Cincinnati is not the norm for this New England Patriots offense they're not going to be in a lot of those positive game scripts where they're you know holding on to a lead and trying to grind out the clock that's not going to be the norm uh that being said I was impressed by ra Andre he's a guy that I've been a little bit lower on I guess through the draft cycle and and just some of this other iess no doubt about it if you own him you feel great about it after week one for sure he's a he's a sell High Target to me he's definitely a guy that I'm still tempering the expectations with and even though I have him at 19 I think that's mainly because I saw a little bit more receiving work and maybe that does play into where you said gibon wasn't healthy and maybe maybe that's just the case for a month though like it could just be yeah this will be a much tougher match up they're in they got to travel all the way to oh no they're actually in in Foxboro but Seattle they're playing Seattle right it's a good defense good defense their interior D line pretty good now they drafted Byron Murphy and they held um Denver to pretty much like no success test on the ground last week so this will be a much tougher test and I think we'll have a a good gauge for like what raand season will really look like after this one I I I think I think the Counterpoint I'm not going to say this is what I expect to happen but I think the Counterpoint for mandre is that looked great and you should be as happy as you could be week one sure Gibson got a lot of times you look at contracts and you got to dig into them Gibson was paid before of receiving work so it could be where what if in in a negative game script like Jobe Bretta is just dumping the ball off all of a sudden this D like I think there's a range of outcomes where after week two we're like holy [ __ ] he should be in the conversation of like running back like highend running back two I will say there was there was a tweet the other day it was like so far just over one a week one overreaction like what best ball exposure do you feel the least comfortable in right now and I got 20% Antonio Gibson I'm not feeling great about it at the I drafted almost no Antonio Gibson in best ball I wanted know part of him I just felt like he was just going to be annoying and I really I still truly feel that like when they get down they want Gibson to be the pass catching back but if like a hamstring injury is going to linger for a month or two then sometimes [ __ ] just happens and it won't and it won't happen and raan Jer will end up being like a really good jk dobbins pick it's easier to stick with what you've been doing than just try and bring in this new scheme or some other [ __ ] yeah I think though when you're talking this R in general you talk about like in in drafts you know you get to get your Guy season this is play your Guy season seon like you could make cases for a lot of these guys none of these guys we were talking about a minute ago have to me very safe floors JK dos as great as he looked got like what 10 touches not let's talk about JK Dobbins there yeah because he explodes 10 touches 135 yards uh touchdown catches three passes a long of like 61 a 61 y a 46 y they they [ __ ] we I mean everyone in the world wrote his ass off I'm not saying I'm out of that I'm just saying it's funny cuz like he he's still like clearly not conditioned like he can never outrun a player but as soon as he can dude he can I felt like he was hurt still the way he was running he's like running he's never going he's never going to run like he did in his rookie season in Baltimore you don't think he can get that long stride back after an Achilles and a he had like he did the hard part he just like he was too tired at the end of The Run BR he looked bad when he was running it looked so ugly but it was breaking off big runs so it's like who cares I'm I'm actually extremely happy for the kid like he's a guy I think is super talented nextg stats on it ball carries speed he was I think he was tied with saquon really with one of the top yeah damn he's [ __ ] back brother I mean well the thing is that that's his back as he's ever going to get like I feel like we never got to actually see people kind of forget about this man as Ohio State fan JK Dobbins was immediately after Zeke Elliott and did outdid his career that Zeke had was like phenomenal yeah Dobbins in oh at Ohio State was Dobbins to another level Dobbins in his rookie season in Baltimore started to like pop off the page second half and then got hurt and then got hurt and then got hurt we never got to see JK Dobbins at True Form yeah I mean here's the thing this week in particular they play against Carolina they're six and a half Point favorites Carolina looks like the worst team in like the last half decade of NFL football yeah this is going be a lot of points there's going to be a lot of points Angeles the thing I like about Dobbins long term for this season is like guys break out all the time right in Fantasy A lot of them have to do with injury like Jaylen right if he breaks out it's because most certain Devon hn got hurt JK Dobbins is looking like he might take the role in like a muddled backfield out of just pure talent and I feel like those guys tend to be the ones that have the highest ceilings and the ones that like really really hit just going back to last year with like Kiren Williams right like when you take it from pure talent I feel like those are the dudes that end up being League winners and who knows if Dobbins can stay healthy who knows if that week one was like legit against the Raiders and maybe the D Line's a little overrated whatever the case may be I just feel like right now if you're ever going to play Dobbins it's against [ __ ] Carolina and you kind of got to do you know what we've you've always had as a part of the brand now we've always said you draft guys a full year removed from the ACL injury just they normally don't have an A injury and only eight months removed from the Achilles there but uh I just wanted to shout out all the kamani Vidal people out there the uh just help could just look at me brother you could just look at me when you said no we we were talking we were talking to people out there like what are we doing with kamani vll well during our Dynasty videos people were like in startups drafted him in like the 13th round and were like dude you're taking them over like act ual starters in your F you're taking him over Brian Robinson yeah like yeah which is [ __ ] insane but Hey zack moss listen Jaylen Wright healthy scratch week one now we love him kamani Vidal's in Achilles tear away from from maybe being active time but until then R I love the message you had yesterday where it was like all of our Dart throw goats last year I mean uh this year in the pre-draft Franklin Jaylen Wright just all healthy scratches week one rookie season I told you man this is the most humbling job on the history of Earth about humble I hate to be what happened with wasir white man like you guys are you guys wanted to he was just going to be him after four weeks of getting a bunch of work Alexander Madison catches one pass and goes to the crib let's let's let's keep moving down the list here we got Dobbins 21 Nai David Montgomery Jerome Ford at 24 Tony P Aaron Jones Devin single ter DeAndre Swift at 28 Zach Moss yo I think Zach Moss might be in for a pretty big year yeah I'm watching Chase Brown back I was going to say Chase Brown's a dude that I yeah I regret not watching more film of him in the off season and just like relying on pure athleticism because I he's got some trouble like running the ball there's trouble in Paradise see I got Chase Brown at 40 yeah I'm entirely too high on him at 34 really tough match up against Kansas City because like Chris Jones is just going to destroy that interior line so I'm not super high on Zach Moss right now but I think and he's coming off a touchdown so it's gonna be hard to buy him but I actually think Zach Moss can put up like top 20 numbers rest of the season pretty pretty Comfort very positive for Zach Moss even when the game script got negative he was used in the receiving game yeah goes Chase Browns so really good stuff for Zach Moss right now um we have him down disappointments in week 1 at 29 right after DeAndre Swift then we got Zeke at 30 javante at 31 ecka at 32 Samir white 33 Taj I mean you guys could see the list anyone on that like the last 12 from 24 down to 36 that we want to jump into a little bit more and talk about well we have a pretty decent there's a lot you can talk about anyone you want to here go ahead Andrew a couple names that just stick out that I think maybe we talk about I'd like to maybe say DeAndre Swift zamir white those kind of guys because these are guys that you drafted to be starters and we don't really have them as rb2s this week they're more RB 3s I'll throw I'll throw Taj into the mix with someone talking about yeah it's unfortunate for Swift because like he got a really good role but it was the product of the offense just struggling so much I think the Tennessee defense is probably really good unfortunately like Houston's a good [ __ ] defense too so we might not be able to see it um and that was like I guess one of my concerns with swift was like he's never really played behind a bad offensive line and it's probably a little too early to say whether or not Chicago's offensive line is good or bad but when they're playing against plus d lines like they're clearly going to struggle right now so I don't know that I expect better a better game from Swift right away but they do get Indie than La than Carolina and Jacksonville so he might be after this he could open up yeah he could open up he could be a by low candidate if he struggles against I completely agree with the way you just finished that because like to me some of the takeaways I have in just NFL in general the fact that Caleb Williams gets away with a win after that [ __ ] horrendous horendous performance is honestly honestly impossible win yeah that's winners win but like Casey putting up the third when off goes when an offense goes for like I believe it was less than 10 first downs 148 yards what what do you expect anybody to do let alone DeAndre Swift so like to me it's I actually think what I saw as far as the concerning part would be khil Herbert's usage but you found that concerning I mean how much did he get played khil Herbert got out snapped by V Jones sure but I mean Jones us that running back now yeah well I was I was going to say the fact that KH Herbert was getting work while vus Jones was out there yeah I found it I found the work for Swift positive he saw 63% of the snaps which I felt like V Jones are you are you sure you're not you didn't mean Travis Homer no I'm looking at snaps right now DeAndre Swift 70% C Herbert 11 Travis Homer 20 maybe it was carries he has the same amount of carries as V Jones Jones wide Travis Homer also they were using is playing running back now they moved him this off seon play on lineups.com which is a free resource out there for you guys if you want to look at snap counts I know most of the websites nowadays if they have like Advanced analytics or that kind of stuff are behind a pay wall PFF Fantasy Life Etc but lineups.com is a really good free resource where they have snap counts and percentages out there so go check that out if you need to but yeah maybe they just don't have him listed as a running back on here so I don't see him but that was one of the story lines that they harped on uh in hard KNX is that he was transitioning to running back so he could stay on the team they're trying to keep the GM but uh I I do want to I I actually need to get you that real stat because I have it right here in my notes give me give me two seconds here because I'm I'm not concerned about the Herbert used to J all I'm more concerned about the overall like offense okay so here it was vas Jones he saw more carries than KH Herbert Travis Homer saw the same amount of carries is C Herbert and then I just wrote some other stuff like Romo dun had one catch yeah here's what I'll say as someone who liked C Herbert all offseason like as I'm doing my waiver bids this morning he's number one drop for me oh he's a I'm my my point is that that they the whole offense g b basically muddled even the situation further the fact that you're using vus Jones out of the backfield Travis Homer and K Herbert while that offense wasn't good is what I think makes Swift look as poor potentially in fantasy as he did after week one I think he's I think there's a lot of better days ahead yeah I think this offense won't be that hor 70% of snaps I feel like is all you could ask for for for Swift in my opinion but I thought it was like 60 but maybe the other maybe the other like underlying Factor could be like Keenan Allen left the game with an injury Rome's getting an MRI on his knee I don't know if you guys have seen any updates I haven't I haven't seen any updates maybe if those two time like really Rome's weak week H um okay well if if uh if those two guys miss time maybe it's more usage for DeAndre Swift in the passing G I haven't heard really anything about Keenan have you it was pretty quiet you didn't hear that DJ Moore said he's just old man he'll be fine all right is that what he said yeah now I did I did uh I try to listen to a lot of like injury Recaps after the Sunday night games and from what I've gathered it's not a big concern for ke there's two two things happened on that play one should not be like surprising at all the he drops a a touchdown pass was like okay what the hell Canan but seeing him limp off the field is something we should be used to seeing by now yeah facts let's talk about zir white real quick because he did split work with Alexander Madison and the most concerning part is Madison is the clear passing down back for sure he played all of the third and Longs he played all the two and four minute drills caught a nice 35 yard touchdown looked pretty damn good doing it like did you see what Antonio Pierce said as well no he said they would be doing a dysfunction to denver rbs this team if they did not ride the hot hand okay there you go so zamir White's he's still the more explosive back and I think in like good game scripts he'll probably be the better play the problem is like this was the concern going in it's like the same thing I kind of had with rander Stevenson it's like how often are you actually G to have game scripts where you could ride you're starting running back to to 20 carries or that doesn't catch passes right so Madison might be the better play in PPR he's definitely like a really good stash obviously we'll talk about Madison in a little bit yes we will let's talk about the Denver running backs because we have gavon who struggled got out snapped out carried out Target outplayed by jalum mclin Clin caught like five passes for five [ __ ] yards so he was useless yard but one yard okay even word PPR [ __ ] scam as Hayden Wings would call him uh Denver plays against who's Denver play this week uh Denver plays against uh Steelers they're at home against the Steelers do we have any confidence playing either of them I think the usage for mcclaflin I kind of feel like if we're discounting him as a non-playable player we're like too in the produ we're too much in the box score and not like okay Shawn pne's using the [ __ ] out of him I'm not not confident starting really anybody in this Denver offense at the moment Fair like I I just think if you're in a pinch and you need to play mcclaflin sure but full PPR you got to choose between one of them who are you starting no if I have to choose between one of them I don't want to choose either of them I'm I if I have javante Williams though I am trying to get away from gavon Williams Because I do think okay so we just not going to answer that question no cuz I don't want to play either of them they're both on my bench I was just going to say like to me this is not about you and your team this is about people who have running back 32 and need decide a guy this is why this is why this is why we have the rankings and this is why we have the waiver wire because there is somebody out there I promise you that's not named Jalil mlfa and javante Williams that I want to start I they don't Inspire confidence for me at all at the position period but now against against Pittsburgh defense yeah man hell no I'm picking up Greg dorch off the and starting him over these [ __ ] because guess what Andrew might be the only person that loves Greg dorch more than Kyler does I love Greg dorch speaking of mar we'll get to the receivers all right well that's our uh top 36 running back rankings didn't feel great it got really deep cut rbs bad at the end when you get to the bottom it gets bad all right so let's get into our uh deep cuts at running back these are guys that are ranked outside of the top 40 as per ECR right now now I had Jeff Wilson listed here I don't know if that is that is that fair game right now it seems fraudulent now it feels it feels a little spicy but like you also have Justin Fields as your quarterback for streaming so that feels just as that feels the same we got we gotop was he not like one of the we got to stop as a group deciding what the line is that we're going to cut and decide from and be like all right 15 we'll take him well well we like we did that but then I'm like also looking on sleeper and I'm like oh he they're like rostered in 87% of league so they're not even like streaming options so look you you said it's got to be somebody you can pick up off the waiver wire and I Fields Fields had like a 22% ownership percentage on I feel like that can't be true like there's no way people aren't picking him up to play that's what it said I you got to keep in mind too that Russell Wilson was questionable pretty much all the way until Saturday fair I guess and then it was like Sunday then like people like there had to be a million people that picked up fields on Sunday maybe maybe I don't know Jeff Wilson still floating out there I'll give you Jeff Wilson like I said I have him as like a backend rb2 highend rb3 if he plays against Buffalo but I'll go to a deeper cut and it's Bucky Irving so Bucky Irving obviously behind Rashad white played really well last week it was in the fourth quarter it was a blowout but he average like 6.8 yards per carry I think he'll continue to get more and more involved as Rashad white continues to be a bad in between the tackles Runner they play against Detroit which is a very high over under uh they'll play inside the Dome they'll have to play catchup which you know Rashad White's obviously great in the passing game but if they're going to spell him at all Bucky Irving can also play really well in the passing game so I just like what we saw from him in week one uh Rashad white will he needs to like prove that he could run in between the tackles to hold on to that role I don't know that Bucky Irving really has like a super high ceiling because I don't know what his touchdown upside is but I think if you're desperate like he's you could do worse than than Bucky in this in this matchup also for the record you you're razing me for Justin Fields but your stream is Baker Mayfield Baker there's no way that Baker's less owned than Justin fields in a one quarterback League people don't own dudes like Baker who are who are cones in the pocket he was definitely drafted more than Justin Fields was uh I mean drafted but by Sunday when Justin Fields was starter there's no way we'll we'll see there's no way that more people didn't pick up Justin fields and own Baker We Live to fight another day who's your stream at the running back well my stream at the running back is a guy that I was about a game away from writing off in all my Dynasty leagues and he's bike Travis CN okay goes that's not my play but he has 12 carries and then as does tank bsby now one of the things I told you guys in the offseason was that Travis etn on that great season was actually less efficient than was I'm trying to talk to you but I'm getting Justin Fields Justin Fields 9 is owned in 89% of running I have no idea today after waivers have been running maybe yeah but like people can't stream them you would have had to pick them up off of waivers right isn't that is that stream this yeah but that's like being able to pick him up now like that would make sense if it was a waiver if we were filming a waiver wi video that goes live Tuesday can you pick up Baker Mayfield right now probably let me see I can pick another quarterback if you want are we doing the running back or the quarterback one I I was just saying but if I was just saying if you're giving me the Jeff Wilson [ __ ] I'm like Justin field is definitely more highly owned than Jeff Wilson I'm just saying I didn't even give you [ __ ] for Jeff Wilson first of all but also are you sure yeah okay but maybe I'm just being man I told you today it was a sad day sentimental I told you I was going to be sad today it's all right keep going okay back to tank bsby back to our regularly scheduled program still hate you don't ever forget that but Travis CN was actually in that great season for Fantasy less efficient as a runner than was tank bsby I remember people were like what there's no way week one Travis etn 12 carries 44 yards tank bsby 12 carries 73 yards Travis etn single-handedly in my estimation on one play lost them that game and the dude like I I have no problem with Travis etm but I'm like how are you as a competitor just continuing to pout on the sideline that play is over man but tra tank Bigsby doesn't get any receiving work so that part of the offense is still largely and only Travis etn but if you're telling me Travis etn is supposed to be him but week one on 30% of of touches or 30% of snaps he got the same amount of carries that's concerning to me it is it is concerning cuz it's like you know that they I mean you draft Tank bsby in the third round that's a day two back didn't work out in year one but they clearly like wanted to have a supplemental back to Travis etn and they talked about it all summer and you know they did that last summer as well so it was kind of hard to believe it week one kind of tells us like where they're at with it we'll see you know like maybe Miami's Rundy ain't that good they lose Christian Wilkins who is like their middle interior guy so maybe you know maybe something's at at play there again it's like week one so hard to I don't want to overreact to like you know tank had a couple runs at etn didn't have kind of thing but definitely concerning for etn and I think like tank is someone that could end up having like a 50 for a touchdown game or something yeah I mean he got like he he I think is in the conversation for if you are desperate and need to play you could put them in I will admit Cleveland this week is not the greatest of matchups but he I would be if I'm like desperate at the position he's someone that I would be considering playing if I had to mhm my uh my stream is going to be Alexander Madison for the Las Vegas Raiders it's not Derrick Henry no it's not Derrick Henry uh could have been Justice Hill I guess but uh it's going to be Alexander Madison we've already talked about it he was the third down guy he was there in the pass catching situations uh when they were trying to throw the ball when they were trying to play keep up they're playing the Baltimore Ravens they're going to play keep up in this game it's probably not going to be a lot of zamir they're going to have to start passing the football and in a PPR format I could see a situation where Madison crazy that we're like Madison in a PPR format slam I know cuz last year he wasn't yeah well what H like what happened last year as a Minnesota people wanted to make Alexander Madison cool that is not going to be a good thing to do people want to write Alexander Madison off that also is not going to be a good thing to do I don't I don't feel like that scheme played to Madison's strengths uh it's a lot of the outside yeah stff he's not like fast and explosive enough he's not it didn't play to a lot of his strengths um also I think we've just noticed that he's better with less volume the more volume he has the less efficient he gets when he has a little bit less he's just a little bit better that's what that's a really nice way of saying he's not very talented he's he a he's a very good number two at the NFL level I agree with that and so Madison you know he's in that role here in Las Vegas I think it's going to be good in this one where he gets a lot of pass you know what's really crazy about that when you look back hindsight 2020 he his his entire career at Minnesota for the most part was waiting to take over the dvin cook roll as to be the only guy and as crazy to me you know looking back at it too as like a Vikings fan I never really wanted Madison to replace cook cuz cook was just so good but there was a time where obviously cook got older and he lost a little bit of that juice and it was like all right now I want to see what Madison has looking back at it we might have been better off just run and cook one more time probably I mean even the last year you guys had cook didn't he I I feel like he went over for over a thousand yeah he was still fine it was like a bad thousand but like a lot of the cook stuff actually ended up being more financial than it was anything else that makes sense I mean when that player like the way you're paying him if he's not performing at like a 13,00 yard level you got a problem well and qu's very much like a Money Ball type of mindset so don't pay the running back that makes sense so week two projections zamir white is running back 41 wow and when you look at week he played on 38% of snaps ouch that is that is about as condemning as it gets all right let's let's do our streaming quarterback and then we'll do the streaming tight end and defense in streaming qbs the wide receiver episode I'm going to start started QB okay and I'm not taking Justin Fields because you wanted you know you wanted to press about it let's go Sammy D I'm going to take Justin Fields then Sam mother eff and darnold I'm starting him this week interesting he is available no no no listen listen I have the purple on I understand Cook brother looking at the ownership percentage 15% of leagues right now he is rostered in this matchup it seems scary right San Francisco good defense whatever this coaching staff Kevin oconnell he is an incredible play caller the weapons are still there Jordan Addison might miss this one but he still has Justin Jefferson they are going to be playing keep up so yes you might have a turnover or a fumble or something like that from uh Sam darnold but they're going to throw for a ton of yards Kevin oconnell has always had guys throw for a ton of yards Nick Mullins was throwing for 300 plus yards Joshua dobs was a startable quarterback in this offense Sam darnold looked better than both of them I know it was the New York Giants if you're in a pinch and you need a guy that you can really pick up off the waiver wire like Nick said you have to be able to pick him up off the waiver darnold is a guy that you can do that and I think he's going to give you a decent floor here this week are you sure I like that call it's kind of counter it's kind of counterintuitive because I think a lot of people see Sam darnold they see Sam Fran and they're like no that's an easy stay away match up any concern if Jordan Addison misses the game and they only have Jefferson really to throw to yes no not that much okay it's not going to change the game script for darnold like he's still going to have to pass the football a lot even if Addison is in this game they're going to have to pass the football a lot uh and I still think that there's still talented players around there you might get a little bit more of Aaron Jones in the receiving game which actually might be better for Aaron Jones's day as well but that's really uh so I got I got a Sit start in in your idiot League mates uh for my qb2 um deciding which I'll probably be doing this every single week darnold or Aaron Rogers who is at Tennessee well that's a great I guess who I got as my option Aaron roders oh okay interesting so let let me hear Let me hear your point then well I mean with Aaron Rogers it's that's actually what in the hell in the eeriness of this they come off playing the 49ers last week yeah I mean if you watch that game to me I mean you should not have expected Aaron Rogers to look like amazing the dude's old and he's coming off in Achilles but he didn't look much different than he has in the past BR I I will I thought like if you looked at the box score not great I thought rogers's arm looked great though but and he looks to be very much in his like succinct world where he knows where he's going early like he looks locked in and I just think that Aaron Rogers is a guy too that is feels like he's out to prove the world wrong when he's got a Hall of Fame career and I think he's coming off of a week where he he the first thing he said was I can play a lot better I think he's got a lot of the traits and tools of him are no different I think this week they're going to have some stuff cooked up early you could see probably first or second drive go early touchdowns a lot of Garrett Wilson a lot of Breeze Hall and I think Aaron Rogers actually is a very decent option this week coming off of what looked like on paper or to you know someone not watching the whole game like a very met performance yeah I will say a couple things Rogers I I thought he looked way better than the box score the only problem is like it's so clear that they want to run it through Bree Hall it felt like they were going first first down run second down run on almost every [ __ ] drive which is like you're putting Rogers in such bad situations on like third and long every single time they had no run success really yeah but the thing to me though was like they did a really good job in my estimation early on in the game finding a way to craftly get Garrett Wilson touches yeah out of the slot and Aaron Rogers seemed to almost like try to force him to sit down in the zone where he should be where Gary Wilson is trying to run through I I think this gu is going to get better as the year goes along for sure I I I agree I'm I'm still a little bit like nervous about Rogers statistically right now because they want to go so much through Bree and like I don't know where like the big players or the touchdowns really come in for Rogers and Tennessee's pity is like so improved the one thing and the defensive line is really good as well yeah the Tennessee D is like just feels good yeah but I agree with that um that said I I think he us look a lot of Aaron Rogers years it's like they'll do stuff like G get quick touches around the goal line to get him past like he seems like a guy that always ends up getting more stats than he should a lot of times when they just like kind of innovate a way to get the ball to Playmakers at the goal line Bree Hall is going to be someone that use out of backfield a lot too I think as well yeah as as a dump off option yeah I mean that that's like you know Breece will have a couple huge plays through the passing game that'll that'll get it done for both Rogers and ree uh they both of them for Fantasy so I to make that decision I think I'm going to go with darnold only because I think I think passing volume I think darn might have like a good 10 to 15 more passing attempts than Aaron Rogers will in this game throw the football 30 plus times I mean 30 is really low he better throw it at least 30 times yeah I guess so right I just I feel like I know he I know he played pretty solid last week but most times when we see Darnell throw the ball 30 plus times it ain't good people no no I I I 12 for 12 sound to start the day off last week that that sounds great last week I I I agree with that for sure but it's almost just like I'm he doesn't need to be efficient at this point for Fantasy to like be okay and with Rogers It's like because the volume is so low he needs to be really efficient uh I'll take efficiency I'll take efficiency for 500 it's Super Bowl Sam season boys enough Super Bowl okay so yeah I mean we talked really briefly about my quarterback it was Baker Mayfield maybe he's largely owned maybe he's not largely owned I don't know he's coming off of a huge game obviously he's less own Rogers I'll tell you that okay that's that's a good start then uh Baker obviously four touchdowns look great I think what I like most about this offense is now jayen McMillan is like such a real wide receiver three it's got real weapons they play in Detroit uh in the dome 51 point over under it's the highest over under on the Slate they're going to have to pass the ball a lot my one concern would be if Detroit decides to play bully ball and the time of possession goes like 65% in their favor then they're playing I guess catchup which could be a good thing for for volume but it's going to be a pass fun the defense for Detroit for the time being which lends itself to Baker throwing the ball a lot they look really good in the first week so um Baker I think is a sure you know fire him up again week too there you go one takea away from just that in general Carolina's game Tampa's game is Dave Canalis a fake sharp uh wouldn't surprise me I just think people just overestimate the impact of like coaches and it's not like dude there's a guy that's there's a dude out there throwing the ball who's like the talent out here there's obviously good play callers and stuff but yeah like that pisses me off might be a fake SHP I I think that sentiment is going to be a common one and I think it's something that in general this concept gets so overdone and under appreciated like I don't know I I think there's good play callers and then there are there's a head coaching job file this away remind me next year next offseason do not overrate offensive play calling okay actually one other thing I wanted to Circle back on with Rogers I saw a tweet and I I can't find it but I want to pull up someone put out like you know this something we talked a lot in the preseason about uh like teams using motion and play action and stuff and that's kind of like the future of the NFL and like your EPA per play shoots up when you're using that a lot you know you looked at the Tweet was like the top five teams in terms of motion and it was like the Niners the Dolphins the r like the the good off right Shanahan tree bottom five I remember the Jets were like bottom three my concern with the Jets offense is like as good as Rogers is because they don't they have Nathaniel Hackett who is basically a zero at offensive coordinator you're getting no in inovation it kind of feels like Rogers might be letting the game pass him by a little bit in terms of like being a little bit more Progressive with it and like if they use Garrett Wilson in motion a lot if they use more play action which might not really happen like we see Kirk's not using any play action because the Achilles Rogers might not be as mobile and I I just worry against a team like San Francisco where it's like they know how an offense runs smoothly with motion it's like if the defense doesn't have to worry about motion like they know how to lock that [ __ ] down and that concerns me like Nathaniel hacket is a zero I will say on that point there was a very uh Andrew probably have seen it 100 times on X where Aaron Rogers is literally not listening to Nathaniel Hackett as he's speaking into his ear and uh it reminds me of when literally he checked every play that McCarthy gave to him in Green Bay I think that if you look at the first drive I believe it was Garrett Wilson comes in motion and they check it down to him right away and he almost scores a touchdown end up getting but I I think Rogers is someone that's actually going to find a way to probably have to get more of that involved on his own and he's someone that has done that in the past I I hope so cuz because I mean we all we all need it to happen if we want any hope for any of those uh players I mean honestly I'd be cool if Aaron Rogers isn't successful this year with the Jets isn't yeah why Aaron Rogers you see the Jersey I'm wearing today I don't care for that top five dumbest things I've ever seen he he has bias is what he's saying I like it feels like so long that so long ago that Rogers was a Green Bay Packer to be honest forgotten it's not that long ago actually no I know I just it it feels like it because it's like the hype around the him being a jet is just yeah he play he's played a couple snaps in one game you know I actually I do like Jordan love though so I guess I don't hate all Packers quarterbacks Jordan love hasn't burned you yet he will don't worry I mean he's getting there exactly all right well that is the running back rankings episode like we I somehow thought this was going to be short it's just literally impossible for us to have a short D said keep 30 minutes 30 I don't know what we're at right now but we're at least double that an hour weed yeah Tony's gonna be pissed love you Tony all right that's 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