2024 Fantasy Football Rankings: Final Updates From Preseason

On Today’s Show on today's show we are going to discuss the most important news of the last week Fallout from cutdown day week three preseason usage injuries holdouts and how all that has affected our rankings the biggest story the story that Kyren captivated the fantasy world was Shawn McVey announcing Kiren Williams will be his punt returner this season I have a lot of thoughts about this I I tweeted them but I'm curious Evan's take first when you first heard Evan or maybe now that You' digested it what do you think about Kiren Williams being the punt returner for the Rams this well the Rams opened last season with Kiren Williams as their punt returner think think he returned punts for the first three games yep and then they pulled him off because they were committing to him as their feature back now they're going back to him on punt returns does that indicate that he's not going to I mean I think we can all agree he's not going to be you know an 85% snap player agreed anymore I did not move him down uh but I did move Blake corm up to the point where where I now I think that he could have some Standalone value he's not just going to be a strict handcuff and we know that he can explode um you know if something were to happen to kyen kirn's 194 pounds you know relying on him as a true every down back Workhorse is just it's not a good long-term strategy the Rams know that that's you know probably a big reason why they drafted Blake Corum in the third round Blake Corum now though like awesome zero RB Target I think think with I mean with I I think could give you a little bit of a floor in addition to the upside if something were to happen to Kiron yeah it's interesting this would be so far out of character for McVey to not ride one back really hard so far out of character but the signs are there and and honestly like I like Kiron this year I'm on Kiron especially in home League uh formats not as much in baseball but I'd be lying if I said that this did not scare me a little bit you know we don't need him out there for punts it's just more chances to get hurt and it s it suggests that like Evan said maybe his grip on the back field isn't quite as strong I just think McVey trusts kirn so much it's not like kirn is even a good candidate he's not even a punt returner he's not that athletic he's not that fast like he's not McVey just trusts him he just wants the ball in Ken's hands more so the thing is people are freaking out like oh my God ky's gonna share time yes we know if he was going to play 90% of the snaps he'd be the number two player in fantasy behind Christian mcaffrey instead we're projecting roughly 16 Touches for kirn per game and then roughly eight or nine for Blake corm we've been doing that and we've been doing that the whole time before this punt return story and that made Kiren you know a round two pick in home League type setups again in best ball I thought Kiren was going too high relative to his range but anyway I don't think the punt return stuff is that big a deal most the punt returns are fair catches there'll be like somewhere between 20 and 25 returns all year Cooper cup is return punts for the Rams also at time so I don't think it's a big deal but like Evan said it makes me think that korm could play maybe even more than we thought and that is somewhat of a concern Kiren also had that foot injury during OTAs a history of foot injuries so maybe that's a factor as well there I know the Rams are very Advanced on the sports science stuff so he he is going to end up like Fair catching the vast majority of punts that that he's going to get by the way one one other thing that I just want to talk about the Rams in general they have been really banged up in training camp Matthew Stafford has experienced hamstring tightness the rim starting left tackle Aller aleric Jackson is out for the first two games due to a suspension for violating the NFL's conduct policy left guard Jonah Jackson who they gave a bunch of money to is out indefinitely with a shoulder injury it sounds like they're starting right tackle Rob havenstein is not going to be ready for week one puka nkua I I bumped down a couple spots uh in the wide receiver rankings from I think my 12th overall player to 15th overall player because there has been some Buzz that his recovery might be a little bit like he's he's struggling a little bit in his recovery from knee injuries or from his knee injury by the way Evan I should say that conversation you had with Greg Rosenthal went not viral but a lot of people on fantasy Twitter are talking about that little conversation you had with Greg Rosenthal trying to interpret what he was saying about puka unless I hear more I'm not moving puka down but I hear you it's at least a little bit scary right now we'll know a lot more next week when they get to practice Yeah it's just for for safety purposes there are wide receivers that I would rather draft ahead of him in his tier I moved him down in his tier I almost moved him down a little bit further but you know Greg was like there there might be nothing to this Greg does a show pretty regularly with Jordan rodrig who covers the Rams for the athletic and also lives out in La there are strong ties between NFL Network and the Rams Cara Henderson who's married to Le sne worked for NFL Network for years and years so I mean they they get tidbits about the Rams yeah okay let's go to oh by the way just to close the loop on Kiren we didn't move Kiren we have Kiren as our running back eight in the ETR half PPR top 300 that is right behind Devon Anan and right in front of Derrick Henry so I still feel pretty good about where we have Kiren there Second Story Rashee of the day to get to is Rashid rice n not expected to put Rashid rice on paid leave by the commissioner exemp list they won't make a decision on any Rashid rice suspension until the legal process plays out that leaves him eligible to play in the meantime I mean we've been talking about this for a few weeks now Evan I hopefully you guys got your Rashi rice bags packed I was in like a scramble over my last I don't know 30 or 40 drafts or so to get as much Rashi rice as I could I did an okay job of it I don't know if I did a great job of it we're now up to 35 overall on Rashid rice in half PPR ahead of d DJ Moore ahead of DK meaf ahead of T Higgins kind of right there with neighbors Cooper cup Devonte Smith I like that range for Rashid rice right now I think it's a pretty big favorite I don't know 70% that he doesn't get suspended at all this season so I mean adjust accordingly there EV any thoughts on where are your thinking on Rashid rice yeah I had previously bumped him up to 35 overall and uh within the last two days with the Positive news coming out again as we get closer and closer to the season and it becomes more and more likely that he's not going to get suspended he should be moving up the rankings I think I have him like 25th overall at this point yeah s is at 25 overall on Rashid rice and to be clear there's no official date for his criminal trial that I can find right now and lawyers can just push this stuff back and push it back and push it back anyways so I I feel pretty good about rasib playing the whole season I feel really good about him as a player as well I mean I think he's going to absolutely smash at 25 overall I'm now ahead of ADP and um like real good chance that you're going to get him if you're using the rankings during this final draft weekend I I I I want to stay aggressive on him yeah for sure okay let's go to the number three story of the day talked Jonathon Brooks about this a little bit yesterday on the bus show but Jonathan Brooks officially lands on injured reserve is now ineligible to play in the first four games of the season I did want to know note that in the preseason finale Bryce young played 12 snaps chuba hubber was in for 10 of them my sanders two so just because they got a new regime they haven't changed their mind on this chuba vers miles thing and we talk if you want to hear more about Jonathan Brooks you can certainly listen to yesterday's show but yeah Evan any thoughts on chuba Miles Jonathan Brooks yeah mil Sanders there's a name that we haven't heard very much from during this training camp um I mean I I don't really have a ton to add to that I I bumped Jonathan Brooks way down though I had him like like 90 overall previously and he's down around like 120 um I I don't I don't really he's on the shy away list like I don't really want anything to do with him at this point I'm not even confident that when he comes back he's going to be used uh in in any any kind of like a feature back role I mean trouba hubard is a guy that coaches like and he's not super super talented but he will get what's blocked he will block he can catch a little bit um he's he's a guy that coaches Trust yeah and I mean he was actually pff's number 16 running back out of like 60s something qualifiers last year I thought chuba had a pretty good year last year again on Jonathan Brooks just be aware of your IR spots if you have one IR spot Jonathan Brooks is more valuable if you have two IR spots Jonathan Brooks is more valuable than that if you have none Jonathan Brooks I think is a tough hold there's GNA be a ramp up period for sure after he gets cleared and back anyways and this team I think the team might be better than the market thinks like I don't think they're actually as bad as the Market thinks to some degree but Market has them like completely inept I mean the second lowest implied team total of the whole year let's go to the number four story Patriots uh I don't want to say a surprise but I was hoping that they would name Drake May their starter instead they named Jobe brassette they a NE QBs starter here today job brette will be there with very little weaponry and Brandon Thor's number 31 offensive line I have some guesses as to when Drake May will get into the lineup Evan but what do you think of the Patriots deciding to go with jacobe br it's kind of a cowardly move um but I don't think they're playing for 2024 anyways they know that they are I they traded away Matt judon you know they're they're not really playing for this season they know that they're going to let him take hits early in the season it's just going to be a matter of time before Drake I think we will see Drake May before October hits I think we will see him at some point in September and it's going to be really interesting to watch because really talented guy I mean has some similarities to Josh Allen from a size standpoint um even from a little bit scattershot in terms of his accuracy but he can really run it'll be interesting to see if when he gets in there he can he can show signs of being able to elevate the talent around him so I think we'll get a few games of jacobe Bret and then we'll be able to compare and contrast When J when Drake May gets in there super talented guy there were guys there there are draft experts that I really respect that thought that Drake May was the best quarterback in this class yeah that that's a hot take uh for sure sure I'll say this the Patriots schedule they open at the Bengals then home vers Seattle then at the Jets one of the best defense in the league then at the 49ers one of the best defens in the league this is going to get ugly and ugly quick for Jo brette I think we'll see Drake may maybe week five home against Miami think that's fair week five I mean I don't want to put Drake May out there at San Francisco or at the Jets right so home against home against uh what did I say Miami in week five and for the best ball stuff if you're in two quarterback leagues if you're in two quarterback redraft I think Drake May is a nice hold man he can run and he's going to run I think more than people think and he should be really cheap in drafts after this Joey brette announcement all right let's go to Story number five cowboys make their move at running back it's our old friend dvin cook I mean we've been down this path to DAL Backfield Jets last year and this was the one of the things that we got right last year that was like the biggest Difference Maker when dvin cook was signed by the Jets last year everyone freaked out and dumped Bree Hall we kept taking Bree Hall in round four and round five and sometimes even round six and turned out to be like the biggest win or one of the biggest wins of the whole season I am not going to be scared by dvin cook whatsoever that said Evan I can see how people might say oh well yeah dvin cook got iced by Bree Hall is dvin cook Really Gonna Get iced by the corpse of Zeke Elliott and Rico D so do you think Dalvin actually has a role in this back field no and they didn't even sign him to their active roster right they just sign him doctor Squad correct yes I I actually think that the odds are against him even playing a snap for the Cowboys at any point this season it was video of him throwing a medicine ball against um a wall now I don't know how much the medicine ball weighs but I was like God I I can do that better than the way that he like I mean not really but you know like I mean he he wasn't very impressive throwing the medicine ball yeah I mean he looked bad bad last year like I thought it totally toally he's he's stiff I mean he's not going to make anybody miss he's not going to run over anybody not going to run away from anybody like I I think that they'll they'll release him from the practice squad in short order okay my my only concern and I agree and we're not we're not giving dvin hardly anything it didn't move our rank at all on Rico or Zeke my only concern is that Rico and Zeke just like aren't that good and they're like well let's give dvin a chance here we don't have anyone else but yeah we'll see how it goes with Dalvin but again we do not have moves on the ranking for that story number six The samaj perine Saga is finally over KC Backfield cut by the Broncos as we've been speculating for pretty much the entire summer signs with Kansas City now from what I understand the Bengals were in the mix for samaj perine also but didn't want to spend the money KC gives him more money and that pretty much eliminates jerk McKinnon from coming back so let's start first on the Kansas City stuff uh Evan Kansas City will go with Pacho perine C and Carson Steel in their running back room how much of the old McKinnon role which was sizable do you think samaj perine takes here well I think it'll take him a little bit to ramp up you know they're not inserting him just as a runner oh you got to hit this hole like he's going to need to learn all the protections and all that kind of stuff I mean we saw Isaiah Pacho had surgery during the season last year on his shoulder came out of college with a long history of shoulder stuff so I it was always risky for them to enter the season with like nothing behind him on the depth chart and now they have a guy who's he's a big back he's not really s JP run is a big back but he's not really a a productive between the tackles Runner but he can serve in this role where he can pass protect and come in and catch dump dump you know dump down check offs check dump offs check Downs um you know sporadically so I mean I I think that Sam perine is now dra able was like I I stuck him in very end of the top 150 he's like a 13 12th 13th 14th round kind of guy and I do think that this you know it hurts Isaiah Peko from the standpoint that his potential to catch passes is lowered I already thought that it wasn't great Patrick Mahomes throws the football downfield yeah you know he's not really a check down passer at all and now he's not poo is going to lose opportunities to do that to samaj perine Carson steel is really not on the radar anymore uh I will say that the Chiefs did lead the NFL in screen passes per game last year so like that is available to Pacho and he's been very good on those you know let's just zoom out for a sec sasi pan was cut by the Broncos like he is not like that that that big of a threat here I do think that Pacho deserves to be docked we are down to 33 overall in the half PPR on Pacho ADP is 21 so we're behind there pretty significantly on Pacho versus home League ADP the thesis on peo was that he was going to take a lot of that jerk McKinnon W which Not only was Pass Downs but was also McKinnon played a ton in the Red Zone I don't know how they're going to play that with perine I actually think that from a trust level they might have more trust in Pacho right now and Peko actually plays more than we think down there inside the Red Zone and on third down so I don't want to write off p on this because of samaj perine whatsoever still very in on Pacho for this year especially early on as Evan said while perine gets up to speed let's go to Broncos now that we know perine is gone they decided to keep Blake Watson so they have four backs on the roster javante Williams Jalil mcglauflin aldri EST Blake Watson to me Blake Watson looks like the direct backup to jalo maybe I'm not sure and then ese is the direct back up to javante I still kind of think we're g to see mainly two backs at least early on in games and I really like um Jalil mcgoffin as a pick right now in the 150s or so but yeah Evan any thoughts on Broncos back field now that perine has been removed I think we're going to open up the season with a two-man backfield javante Williams dominating the early down stuff and Jalil mlin as Shawn Peyton's like poror man's Darren sprouls um I think that both of those guys are Ian I like javante Williams in the seventh round right now I think he's actually one of the best valuesa on the board right now um and I I really like Jal I've really come on to Jalil mlin who I was kind of dismissive of early I mean weighs 187 pounds but he fills a specific role and I think he's going to open this any he was good last year and I think that Shawn Peyton kind of loves him yeah um so I have him around like 120 right now overall and he's a guy that especially in zero RB you know as like an rb4 rb5 full PPR like I I think that he could have some Standalone value I think audri EST probably opens the season as a healthy scratch and Blake Wat maybe plays special teams and like you said Lake Watson's 59 195 so I think that that guess that he might be the direct backup to Jalil could be spot on yeah and I like that being aggressive on mlin uh right now and again we have this long history of every Shawn pyton offense being among the league leaders in running back targets like every single year Shawn pyton offense is among the league leaders in runningback targets which is certainly good for these guys last Fallout of this perine thing everybody assumed that he was going to ciny right now and I thought that was the favorite I thought he was a favorite to go to the Bengals he doesn't so the Bengals now will ride with Zack Moss Chase Brown and trayon Williams I mean this is the the best runout that Zach moss and Chase Brown could have had they didn't add anyone they bring back trayon Williams they're just gonna ride with this it's pretty exciting for both moss and Chase Brown any final thoughts on Bengals running back here Evan I'm really excited about Chase Brown and I think that Zach Moss at least for a while is going to be heavily involved to begin the season they care so little about trayon Williams that they cut him and then you know they didn't get perine and they brought back trayon Williams so I don't think he's going to be any kind of Factor on offense and it's going to be a two-man backfield I think eventually the the talent is going to rise to the top and that's Chase Brown all right let's go to another Bengal story story number seven here is Jamar Chase situation I thought that once the CD lamb deal got Ja’Marr done that the Jamar Chase deal would get done like a day later like the framework was set but this is the Bengals talking about the stone cold cheapest organization in the entire NFL I I don't know what they're doing Zack Taylor seemed like he said the deal was done and and Jamar Chas is going to practice in the next day Jamar Chas isn't practicing I don't want to say I'm worried but it's a little concerning and there's certainly data out there that guys who don't participate in training camp at all can come out of the gate slower for sure so it's scary to me right now I was in a draft yesterday I had I think it was the sixth pick and it was either Aman raah or Jamar Chase and I decided to go Aman raah even though I like Jamar Chase better I'm I win a manra so that's kind of where I'm at right now it seems scary I don't think it's going to linger into the season too far but I honestly don't know Evan any takes on the Jamar Chase situation so I've the entire time had like that that little mini tier of Justin Jefferson Aman Ross Brown and Jamar Chase all next to each other but chase at the bottom of that mini tier which more often than not means that I'm not getting Jamar Chase yeah because I'm always going to take Justin Jefferson or ran Ross St Brown over him I mean it it is it's starting to get concerning like we're this is Thursday we're seven days away from the first game and for them it's what 10 days away um you know it's it's concerning like you know I I would lean away from drafting him I mean you know I just take another awesome dude unlike Brandon auk at least and we'll get to Brandon iuk in a second but unlike Brandon auk at least Jamar Chase has practiced he he did get in like a couple practices earlier this week for what it's worth so we'll see but yeah because Zack Taylor said that he was G all all right you know he's back now we're gonna have him all week he's going to be ready for week one and the very next day he's back not practicing it's almost like they had a breakdown in negotiations again the Bengals have always been fairly dysfunctional because they're cheap yeah and Mike Brown you know is a hard-headed stubborn guy and if you piss him off you know like he's not going to always back down yeah yeah I mean again I'm not worried about this I would I would have him the same way Evan has it now behind Aman raah and Justin Jefferson for sure okay while we're here we might as well talk about Brandon iuk Story number Aiyuk eight Brandon iuk Saga just never ends I am so tired of I hope you have something on this EV I don't even have any notes on this I'm just like Mega tilted I have no idea what's going on and and and the 49ers seem to have no idea what's going on like John Lynch and Shanny both got up there yesterday and were like listen we don't really know he's got to play that was basically it they just seem like frustrated they're like he he's got to play so where you at on Brandon iuk right now Evan his ADP continues to sink I mean people are legit worried about this yeah I mean it is just never ending this Saga um I mean what I would do personally right now is i' just try to draft around him you know but then if he falls round past where he belongs then I'd be willing to take him you know I mean it just comes down to that like I but I would be drafting around him right now and not willing to take him probably until the fourth round yeah my line was when he gets to like the back half of round three that was when I've been taking him um round four for sure I take him and and that's baseball stuff not not home League stuff so I'd have to think about it more for for home league but yeah it's just it that one to me seems worse than Jamar than the Jamar Chase one like auk seems like he's being more stubborn so we'll see but not good I did a draft with JJ zachar Rich rebar Davis Maddock and Pat thorman last night in um for ffpc main event and we got Brandon iuk at 5.2 yeah that's a smash I mean yeah all right Story number nine actually some good news for my bags really good news for my bags actually AJ Dylan surprisingly lands on inur reserve and this was not like one of these fake GB Backfield cut IR things I actually think he got a stinger it's his second Stinger he's worried about his neck and he's out for the season wish AJ Dylan well Marshon Lloyd meanwhile who was speculated to land on IR due to hip and hamstring issues does not so Packers rolling into C rolling into week one here with Josh Jacobs Emanuel Wilson and Marshon Lloyd we're not sure if marshan Lloyd's going to be ready to play week one but this is sh running out really well I think for all three of those guys like I've been drafting all three of them lately uh Jacobs who I know Evan is on big time I I like Jacobs too imanuel Wilson is like a last round pick and then Marshon Lloyd who got the good injury news not on IR so I mean I like all three of these guys right now Evan what do you think about the way Packers backfield ran out yeah I mean I don't have anything to add to that I mean I could sort of see this I I didn't predict AJ Dylan going on IR season ending IR let alone but I mean I you could just kind of see that you know J Jacobs is not going to have competition for touches yeah at least early in the season I I think that Marshon Lloyd is still very very draftable and offers upside but you can't expect anything from him early in the season Emanuel Wilson is this guy there there have been there's been like buzz that the Packers like him a lot but you know we haven't really seen him in action I just I just think that Josh ja is going to come out the gate getting 20 plus touches a game and you know if you draft them like he he should be of of great assistance in the scoring column early in the year yeah and that's not really Matt lefleur's M Mo to go out and give Josh Jacobs 20 25 touches in a game but he might not have a choice here we are up to 30th overall on Jacobs in our half PPR rankings right now if you wanted to reach a little bit above that if you started like wide receiver wide receiver then you wanted Josh Jacobs I I would not hesitate to reach above our rank to do so the only other thing I'd say is that uh Matthew Barry does that column um uh from the combine each year and he was at the combine I guess he was talking to Packers people and he had a note in his column after they combine that and this was way back months ago like they really like Emanuel Wilson don't sleep on Emanuel Wilson so I don't want to Discount Emanuel Wilson having like a legit big role here uh come week one let's go to Story number 10 Eli Mitchell lands on IR this was another SF Backfield one that kind of came out of the blue was not prepared for this thought Eli Mitchell was battling Jordan Mason for that handcuff role instead it all goes to Jordan Mason Jordan Mason is now one injury away I mean I would consider him and Blake corm probably the two best handcuffs in the league right now corm and Jordan Mason but yeah Evan any thoughts on Eli Mitchell going to IR Jordan Mason is a real good late round draft pick I mean yeah so they've got gendo who keeps getting hurt he got hurt again is it Isaiah gendo Isaac yep Isaac uh he's like the uh the guy who had very little production in college but was just a total freak athlete yep and they have Patrick Taylor Patrick Taylor who used to play for the Packers under Matt laflor who you know comes from that Shanahan tree I mean I I think that the the deck is pretty clear for Jordan Mason to be the clear number two back in an awesome offense trustworthy offense behind a guy in CMC who has battled a cfin we are not concerned about it right now but that's a soft tissue injury for a running back who has some history of that so Jordan Mason is like a priority late round pick right now uh for those guys who are draft kit Pro or uh inseason subscribers during this year we're adding a one injury away article in other words we're going to rank the guys who are one injury away from being very viable assets and fantas that goes for all positions but at running back specifically you know you can see it with corm and Mason and Trey Benson and guys like this you know very very cleanly all right Story number 11 DEN WRs going back to Denver Tim Patrick and little Jordan Humphrey get cut so they're going with courin Sutton Josh Reynolds Marvin Mims Devon V and Troy Franklin at the wide receiver position there's a lot of Buzz around this B guy right now zero Buzz around Franklin and Marvin Mims I hope that it works out for him but Shawn pyton still seems like the usage in preseason was bad it's just scary for me I feel best about Sutton second best about Josh Reynolds EV any thoughts on Broncos wide receiver room that's about the same for me I moved courand Sutton Way up um because I mean he's just I don't even know how he's going to fit with B Knicks B Knick is like a you know a quick game passer courland Sutton is like a big you know ball snatcher down the football field I just I don't know about the fit on offense there were you know offseason trade rumors even about him he scored 10 touchdowns last last year but didn't really do anything else um you know benefited actually more than anybody from Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson just throws the ball in the end zone and courin suton can go get it you know bck doesn't really play that way but courin suton is the clearcut number one receiver yeah in Denver and should fairly easily lead the team in targets I don't know what to think about Marvin Mims either um I I kind of want to be optimistic about him like they need a guy who has actual speed and Marvin that's you know that's technically Marvin Mims but I don't know what to think about him they needed that last year and they didn't even play him they didn't give him a chance you know so even even and even while when they actually did he showed the ability to make big plays right so I'm not going to assume rational coaching on Marvin Mims whatsoever I I think that'll be Reynolds and Sutton will be the primary guys here we're up to 106 I'm sorry 105 in our half PPR on Sutton Evans a little bit higher there in his top 150 but Sutton's ADP is very low I mean 114 right now in home leagues on courland Sutton I I agree I just I'm not sure that Sutton is a fit and also not sure that he's good enough so I don't want to get too crazy on courin Sutton let's go to another surprise from Cuts number 12 Noah Brown cut by the Texans I wasn't expecting Noah Brown this at all because I thought Noah Brown gave them really good snaps last year 1.94 yards per route run last year for Noah Brown he had three monster games he had a 61531 a 71720 and an 8821 I don't know why they cut him Commander signed him almost immediately which we'll talk about in a second but it sounds like they really like what John M's been doing and you know if you're playing deep stuff John Mei sounds like now he's one injury away from being in a really good role on what we expect to be one of the best passing offenses in the league so just want to put that out there on M Evan any reaction to no Brown getting cut here yeah you know Noah Brown has been around for like a while you know used to play for Dallas and he's a guy that even going back to Ohio State he never did anything from a production standpoint and I think that his numbers are just a tesate to how awesome CJ stad is that he's he's a talent elevator uh also you know this regime they they have really no connection to Noah Brown they um you know they and they're keeping the guys that they draft they drafted john mey in the second round they drafted Xavier Hutchinson another big body receiver who they may just see as hey we drafted this guy he's younger than Noah Brown let's keep him uh but I mean that those are the decisions that they're making and I I understand it I I do think he's a pretty good pickup for Washington did he go on the 53 or did he go in the practice squad I believe he's on the 53 and to he might be better than D I don't know like what do you think about diami Brown verse verse Noah Brown I don't know yeah I it would not surprise me if Noah Brown can immediately get snaps ahead of diami or Alam zakus or he's also a guy that like um he can play in the slot he's like he can be a big slot too yeah yeah and Luke mcaffrey has not generated much positive Buzz I still am leaving the light on for Luke mcaffrey this season but he has Buzz has not been good this preseason um like if Steph digs got hurt or something you're going to want to have John mey I guess is my point and that goes back to the one injury way stuff he'll be a hot pickup if any of the Texans top three wide receivers get hurt Story number 13 Going CLE Backfield to Cleveland Browns cut Deontay Foreman but then bring him back it was some roster gymnastics so now they're going to go with Jerome Ford Pierre strong and Deontay Foreman Nick chub of course will open the season on IR you know I think Foreman can have that goal line role kind of a Kem hunti dis role drone Ford though is still the one that I want because I think drone Ford can be the feature back before chub returns and then if when chub returns you get Drome Ford on some passing Downs too Evan any thoughts on Brown's running back room now that it's been finalized here with Ford strong and foran yeah so they cut foran for like two days yeah and I made a move up with with regard to uh Jerome Ford I don't know even know if I'm going to move him back down though I mean it just shows that the Browns They Don't Really value Deontay Foreman um you know that they that they let him be on the street for a day or two and not worried about somebody else picking him up you know yeah you're but I mean like but like clearly Jerome Ford is gonna open the season as the Browns top tail back and again as we've talked about he kind of is a spread back and they want to play more spread under Ken dorsy yeah so I mean I I I think he'll have some value early in the season and who knows when Nick chub is coming back I mean he went on reserve pup and I I would not expect him back before like week eight and even when Nick chub gets back you have to give Jerome Ford a share of the base work chub's not going to be ready for that and then probably all the passing down work Nick chub never played in passing Downs anyway so yeah Evan you're at you're at uh I'm sorry we're at 113 on Jerome Ford right now in the top 300 Evan is at 104 ADP is down around 115 I I like you know I like the Drome Ford stuff where he goes right now especially as part of hero or zero RB stuff story OBJ 14 Odell Beckham who everyone was like oh what a great signing for the Dolphins he's going to smash Odell Beckham of course stays on pup they haven't even disclose his injury has barely practiced if at all I don't think he's practiced at all all Camp I'm excited about Malik Washington man he slipped in to round six in the actual NFL draft due to medical stuff he's only 5'8 191 just very very athletic and very very productive so Malik Washington with Mike McDaniel like he could be the wide receiver three right away and like Tyreek and has had some hand thing W's had some calf thing it's not that crazy to think Malik can have an impact right away and Odell is so beyond wash slash dusted so I'm excited about this one for deep Leaguers Evan any thoughts on Odell Malik Washington stuff yeah it's interesting so the Dolphins right now even with Tyreek Hill and Jaylen wad a little banged up they only have five wide receivers on their 53 and the fifth of those is Grant Dubose who they just claimed off waivers from the Packers yeah so they really only have four playable wide receivers right now I think that that speaks to the fact that they are looking at Malik Washington for something of a role early in the season or at least that they trust him to play something of a role because it's just Wadd and Tyreek who again are both banged up right now and then Braxton beros who's probably going to be their third receiver to open the year I wonder if they can get something out of jnu Smith look the offense is always always and forever going to be centered around Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Wadd just feeding them relentlessly but I do wonder if this opens the door for jnu Smith to make a little bit of an impact they got nothing in terms of receiving value from their tight ends last season yeah totally fine with Johnny was a late Ryan tight end stab just one more thing on Malik Washington he was at Northwestern for his first four years of his college career transfers to University of Virginia first year at UVA 10 catches 1426 yards and nine touchdowns from Malik Washington you know not big but athletic guy not the fastest but athletic I think it's really interesting for yeah the first that I I heard of him was when we had Mike rener on before the draft and he was talking up Malik Washington as one of his favorite sleepers yeah um yeah he's like 5 foot eight yep but real really fun guy to watch I think Matt Haron liked him as well as a sleeper all right story 15 from the pre PR season usage stuff so preseason is over Pat firemouth only played on 25 of 43 snaps with Steelers Pat Friermuth starters this season Darnell Washington 23 Michael puit 12 I mean it's this Arthur Smith stuff man I don't think he agrees with any of the rest of us who his best players are and that's so scary so FR MTH Co KT I've just been passing over that whole range there and then instead I usually take you know like a Dalton K Kade or McBride or or Le Porter or Kelsey or Ingram or KD or whatever skip over that whole middle range and then come back later with shots on Noah Fant Luke Musgrave Kate uton Ben cinate Kobe Parkinson John new Smith you know so I've been pretty much out on firemouth here Evan what do you think of the way he was used in the preseason and any more of Fri mouth thoughts yeah Fri mouth is on the uh on the shyway list um I I don't want any part of him um I think Darnell Washington is going to play a lot and that's reflected in the preseason us Darnell Washington is like almost 300 pounds yeah and he can block out the Sun and they've had some issues with their offensive line uh in training camp so far which was supposed to be a strength like maybe the strength of the team but like guys have gotten injured maybe rookies haven't come along as quick as quickly as hoped brri Jones who is stepping in from he's moving from right tackle to left tackle has apparently had some struggles they're going to play a ton of two tight end sets they don't have any receivers other than George Pickins it's going to be a two tight end offense and they're going to run the ball relentlessly with Naji Harris yeah for sure um and it's like no one wants to like admit that yeah like like Nai Harris is gonna get a million carries this year I know it's gonna be bad Jaylen Warren is hurt Mike tomlin's streak of uh consecutive winning seasons is in big trouble I mean big big trouble he's got some insane record of like consecutive yeah big big trouble this year all right even even when the Steelers sucked they have a winning record like last year exactly all right Story number 16 just want to AD Mitchell highlight this 0 Mitchell stuff from preseason so uh Anthony Richardson played 25 snaps in their preseason finale ad Mitchell was out there for 24 of them and out of those 24 he was in the slot 20 times gets a 29% Target share on a reasonably sample now of course this was with Josh DS out I just thought it was notable since Josh DS went down that high ankle spring ad Mitchell has been playing well getting buzzed usage has been incredible I think he's a pretty solid late round flyer now whereas before I thought he was a really bad pick where he was going now I actually think he's a pretty strong late round flyer Evan any thoughts how this is GNA play out between Pitman Mitchell DS Alec Pierce I I think it's a really interesting situation um first of all I moved ad Mitchell into the 150 and he's a guy that I I think now is like an upside late round flyer that to an extent you know the Colts have organizational um motivation to see ad Mitchell succeed because you remember that rant that Chris Ballard went on after the draft like defending ad Mitchell and criticizing the media and all this like they they they are somewhat incentivized to see to it that he succeeds um obviously they they thrust him into that big slot roll when Josh DS went down this seems like a pretty severe high ankle sprain by the way I don't think there have been any indications that he's going to even come close to be being ready for week one no and then when he does come back it wouldn't surpris me if ad Mitchell if if he plays well early in the season they they just move him to uh ex receiver and then use Alec Pierce as the number four in the situational deep threat I ad Mitchell the way he he moves different yeah I mean he is he is an interesting interesting athlete who was probably a first round Talent who slipped to what 42 overall I mean they might have gotten a steal there yeah for sure I my concerns around Indie pass game remain that Ken inter get to a second read how accurate can he be can he support more than one and I we think he's going to be supporting Pitman for the most part so that's the concern but yeah that's the kind of shot that I want to take in redraft is like let me get ad Mitchell see how it goes week one or week two too if it doesn't go well or if the usage isn't there or whatever we'll just move on for waivers Story number 17 we got to look JAX Backfield at Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars starters in the preseason finale 23 snaps for them etn 17 tank Bigsby 6 now again we've talked about this before this was the way it went last training camp for bsby then he just flubbed it remember though Travis etn was fourth in raw carries last year 267 plus he got 73 targets you know I I don't want to be buying the top of Travis etn because he's going to need that kind of raw volume to get there again so I do not have very much Travis etn at all this year with the Assumption being they want to give him breaks and tank bsby seems better poised to do so this year I know we talked about this a bunch already Evan but any final thoughts on Travis etn and tank bsby this season yeah I don't have anything to add that we haven't already talked about tank bsby is definitely worth a late round flyer though okay Chris Godwin real quick on TB WRs this one Bucks promised us all off season Chris Godwin was going back to his natural slot rle he was struggling badly to the point where I think his wife like went on Instagram or something and like ripped off ripped Canalis put my baby in the slot put my boy in the slot exactly I mean she knows ball she knows ball apparently the Bucks didn't but under this new regime God when is back in the slot he made his preseason debut in week three he played Seven snaps he was in the slot for six of those so good thing for Chris Godwin no doubt he's one guy that we've been higher on than market for pretty much the entire process any thoughts on Godwin here Evan um I think that there was actually maybe some reason to be a little bit skeptical that they might do this because they drafted Jaylen McMillan who was primarily a slot receiver at Washington and he like quickly earned the number three receiver job yeah but they're going to use him at Z receiver Mike Evans at X Chris God winning the slot I think they've got this figured out yeah and I actually had that as Story number 19 here McMillan ises Trey Palmer wins the wide receiver three job I would note uh Trey Palmer got 68 targets last season like this is a real role and also Mike Evans and Chris Godwin aren't like the youngest guys so I take Jaylen McMillan a lot as a late round flyer he's just so cheap at least in beste ball compared to other rookie wide receivers and there's a lot of people out there that think Jaylen McMillan can play so you know he's not expensive he goes like 190 overall or something I think it's a great late round flyer on jayen McMill yeah the the ship Chasers call him Jaylen mcmillions he's going to make them millions of dollars hopefully we'll all be calling him Jaylen mcmillions hopefully you'll never see me on this podcast again okay uh Story number 20 LAC Backfield Clarity on Chargers running back room they kept four Gus Edwards JK Dobbins kamani Vidal and Jared Patterson Vidal did enough the last two weeks you know got healthy to where the point where he didn't have to play in the preseason finale so I thought that was a really good sign for him I still don't consider Vidal anything more than a late round flyer but given the situation with JK Dobbin and Gus Edwards Vidal definitely I think is going to get a chance at some point this year Evan any final thoughts on Chargers backfield here yeah you know they kept those four and then they added off of waivers Hassan H Haskins yes who played for Jim Harbaugh in Michigan so played for the Titans yep yep and they yeah they got him off waivers from the Titans but just another name to keep in mind we you know I think it's going to be Gus Edwards to open the season but we'll see you know everybody I think everybody at the end of the day everybody's going to get one bite at the Apple and it might be a hot hand it may it may not lead to very much fantasy production or consistent reliable fantasy production but I don't know we'll we'll be following it every week because they're going to run the ball for sure a couple more small ones here story 21 evans's best friend Z Jones was Zay Jones suspended five games for violating the personal conduct po this is related to domestic violence and I think the NFL on the domestic violence stuff is coming down harder and faster than they are on things like the Jordan Addison or Rashid rice stuff but anyways this to me was really good for my bags I've been taking a ton of Michael Wilson and Greg dorch they seem locked now like the backups are Zack Pascal and Chris Moore this three wide receiver set of Marvin Harrison Michael Wilson and Greg dorch seems like it could be like every snap and that's pretty exciting for me considering the way I think Cardinals offense is going to go this year so Evan what do you think about Wilson dorch in The F out of this Z Jones suspension I mean I think that you summed it up really nicely there you know it's going to be a three by one of Marvin Harrison Michael Wilson Greg dorch Trey McBride as the tight end on like every single snap yeah all right last story to get to here today's story 22 Big Mike Williams no surprise given the way it's gone but no surprise but the Jets Mike Williams announced Big Mike Williams off the ACL will play in week one Jets have said all along Mike Williams is going to be on the Bree Hall kind of plan remember in week one last year Bree Hall got 11 out of 30 running back touches but by week five Bree Hall I think it was 22 or 23 out of 35 running back touches so a quick ramp up for Bree last year and hopefully it will be a quick ramp up for Mike Williams this year I think the question is Evan even if Mike Williams is healthy how excited are you about him at his age with Aaron Rogers Etc yeah I think it's going to be a low volume passing offense they're going to play Slow they're going to lean heavily on maybe the best defense in the league and um and Garrett Wilson is going to be the clear number one with that said stylistically you know Mike Williams is an Aaron roggers type of receiver because he can win on that back shoulder and no one throws the back shoulder better than Aaron roggers I think he could have some big games I think he could score touchdowns you know um but I don't think you know it's just there's not going to be a lot of passing volume volume on that team and he's going to be the clear number two option behind Garrett Wilson Golan Fades you know some of those like back shoulder type type throws I don't expect to see a ton of volume though for Mike Williams we are at uh where we actually had him expecting to play week one yeah we have Michael 125 overall right in that Gabe Davis Jerry Judy Brandon Cooks type range for us right now on Big Mike Williams all right that is going to do it for a full offseason of fantasy football podcast we will be shifting our Focus next week to more week one related micro content be sure you stay tuned for that if you want to hear Evan and I discuss every player in every game on the main slate that will be coming to you for inseason subscribers on the Friday before week one our show is Friday night me Evan Andrew Wiggins we just sit down go position by position talk about every single player's outlook for L every single player's outlook for everybody that's in play on the Slate so be sure to pick up the early bird bundle or the in season package if you're interested in that for Evan producer Ryan producer Luke I am Adam 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