Ten Hag SACK Race! Chelsea DESTROY Critics! LUCKY Arsenal? Premier League Review

Introduction hello everybody Welcome to that's football and welcome to the goldbridge saves podcast Live on YouTube as we look at the Premier League weekend we're talking about ten hog leading the sack race as he heaps pressure on himself lucky Arsenal Chelsey silencing their critics as well and of course we'll also be talking about the bigger issues I mean one of the things I've got to talk about we're here to say football V was a shambles this weekend Morgan Rogers left out of team of the week that's like leaving Barack Obama out of some the top five politicians of the last decade was he was he yeah he was good I thought he could have maybe gone like leaving roast potatoes off a roast dinner yeah also we've got frustration from being a we've got frustration from um uh the Bournemouth manager on the v as well we've got loads to get involved in get your comments in below we won't be holding back we're here to talk about the Premier League weekend also Everton D is shite might be getting the sack Everton fans at the train station shouting abuse is that right is it wrong we've got our opinions what are yours we'll talk about that as well but um look I want to get straight into it because there's so much to discuss will where do you want to start well let's maybe start with the V stuff because Bournemouth VAR you're always foaming at the mouth just to come in and maybe what I feel like you've been doing at the start of this season is making a mountain out of a mole hill with some of these V decisions because we are trying to say let me fin trying to say football and we are trying to be on the right side of the fans but some of the tweets that you're coming out with this weekend I'm getting texts messages do I need to go around do I need to text family members to make sure you're all right I know you had a bit of a Lads weekend this weekend but some of them they're just not on well I'm going to shock you all this weekend because one I've got something positive to say about the pjm and two I agree with Gary Neville on something so maybe I've had a bad weekend but look let's hit this straight away V two weeks in I think there was a lot of problems last week we spoke about I'm not going to draw up a big list this week but the Bournemouth game yesterday is an absolute shambles and if you didn't see it Bournemouth declined a winner by V for what was a factual hand ball a new term in the world of V fact we've we've had um we've had um you know what some V terms that we don't like um not clear and obvious deliberate hand ball is the one that's been going around for ages we've now got factual hand ball at the end of the day the cross comes in the Bournemouth player goes to win the ball it hits his upper arm shoulder and goes into the back of the net I tell you what the Bournemouth manager said it's the most most frustrating moment of his life and he's been on a date and paid £100 and the woman went to the toilet and just went out the window wow that's frustrating and he says that's more frustrating and Eddie how agreed yeah but Eddie how pandering there to the Bournemouth fans who he absolutely loves you know what I mean I can see why I can I can see both sides of it but like a factual hand ball not yeah but I I think they've got to stop the terminology there haven't they fual hand ball just makes you think what was everything else going on before them were these not fual hand balls or the ones before so I think terminology there but I why not let the referee go and have a look at it yeah I think that's the problem because we've been told that referees are going to be allowed to Referee on the pitch more and we've seen that in the first week rightly or wrongly and then this one V goes it's a hand ball carry on with the game the goal's not allowed and the referee sort of goes well all right I'll Trust you that's sign into the new mandate trying to speed everything up doesn't it which I think in certain elements of the game it's really working with lot challenges and different things and and the speed of the game I think it's been a lot better this year just in terms of those um and then obviously the one after that the Joe Linton one which you know I'm a big wrestling fan JBL clothesline from Hell we've seen him swung and that was one of the best ones I have seen I just I just think ultimately we won't I don't I just sorry to sorry but I just think we are going to have so many this season I think as a as a wanted a hilt to die on I think we're going to have more of course we are because it's not fit for purpose that's the whole point we spent our all last season talking about this and I think people are tired of it and that's what Howard Webb wants he wants people to get tired of it so they talk about it well listen up how he wants the show no well listen up we've got Michael Owen on Pratt of the week by the way talking about that show what a pratt but we'll talk about Pratt in a minute but um yeah look I think Bournemouth have been robbed there I think Newcastle know it the Joel Linton one could have been a red card I agree but it's the gold is allowed that that frustrates the hell out of me because I think that that could be a big big three points in the top four race for Newcastle and it could be a big three points in what Bournemouth are trying to do and they have been robbed of a goal and just in anybody if anyone's under any illusion it's not a factual hand ball when it hits your shoulder like when you watch the replays there's a lot of debate there it was a bad decision and a bad bad bad piece of officiating well um speaking of ones that were not contentious but that you've tried to make contentious uh I'll just take you back to August the 24th just after lunchtime Saturday Saturday as it's more commonly known in the English dictionary no excuse Brighton got the win today and we'll deal with it but that GAR naturo goal being ruled out is a fast technically it's offside but come on they need to change the rule there no deliberate action and it's going in so you want the rules to be the rules but only not when they apply to you that's that's what's going on people say I only speak one language well I also speak English and facts because when you say that back I'm I'm nodding all the way through it so Gareth from the office good luck sense of humor yeah yeah yeah yeah I completely agree with that so you want the rules to apply for everybody else but not for you when they need changing there's a there is a rule there that needs tweaking but what would be the rule because then you're just going into subjects Sub subjectivity City well the rule would be if the ball is going in and it hits a player on the line and there's no way of it not going in the ball goal it should be a goal I mean if you're Brighton you think it's bloody Christmas I mean look that that is a that is a goal it's technically not a goal I agree but what I'm saying is that's not why we watch football we don't watch football so that gacho scores a goal but it hits xery on the line so it's offside like there is no intention there and it's it's it's basically going to be a goal it's a freak it's a freaky of the rule but also it's a very specific incident so I think if you write a rule up for it then you're just becoming in you're just going to get yourself in all heaps of trouble because then there'd be like people when like that is the most specific incident of that and I saw of you're telling me if that goal get given and the rule had been tweaked before and Brighton went that's not fair we could have stopped that goal no you bloody can't there's no Brighton player anywhere near it xer is inactive really it's just hit him look it'ss offside I accept but what I'm saying is if england a one- nil down to Germany in a World Cup final and Harry Kane slips and it hits him you're going to be going what a stupid rule the other end and Brighton and J Pedro's doing that look Happy Days lucky lucky yeah I feel really lucky I don't feel like I've done anything and also Eric tenh hard came out in the postmatch and was like xerx he's got a look at himself there well Eric tenh hard came out with a lot of bollocks before after enduring that game of football well how the tide this turn should we start with Manchester United I know you've spent a lot of time on it but it's just quite nice for me to maybe just prod you a little bit more when it comes to United Brighton well there's three games we sort of want to talk about obviously we'll talk about everybody else as well but uh certainly United uh Arsenal Chelsea lucky Arsenal a lot of people are saying I disagree Chelsea silencing the critics including Manchester United and Ten Hag me but we'll start off with Manchester Eric ten AR Under Pressure I tell you what I don't normally agree with Gary Neville but just so everyone knows that we're Fair he said after the game that ten hog has heaped a load of pressure on himself I mean I said it straight after the game so let's not argue about who said it first he wasn't doing the game no he said it actually a day later so he's probably watched my match reaction yeah I think he's definitely doing that on the Satur I think he is just nicking ideas well remember when he was when last year when he was on the Monday night show and he had the phone and we think we know who messaged him and he was like yeah I think that this and we know we knew who was messaging him about that but anyway look he's right um ten hog has heaped pressure on himself um and I think the other thing I agreed with tenh har about was that um Manchester United have spent 100 million pounds on Strikers in the last 12 months with Rasmus and xery yeah um if ten Hog's plan is now to play with a false nine then you've got to look at that and go what the hell's going on and what Gary Neville said was um you've got to have a focal point that United team needs a Striker we saw it against Fulham and he changed it at half time by bringing xerx on but you've already lost half the game then and I absolutely agree with that and there are some United fans out there that say well no you've got to give him time he's got a new system if his new system is to play a false nine he should have been sacked in the summer because you can't spend 100 million pounds on Strikers in 12 months and then not play a striker so that that needs to stop but I don't know what your thoughts will and everybody else but he's third in the sack race now ten hog um the only two ahead of him and one of them's in Anon one of them is a word I can't say one of them is a load of bollocks moresa is only there because he's Chelsea manager I don't think he's in danger Shawn D has got shorter odds which we'll talk about in a minute but yeah he just heaped pressure on himself that was my thoughts he made loads of bad decisions that sort of upset the fans and then it went wrong that he didn't need to make well I think the strikker Ws the per first point because also it's you've got evidence from that Fulham game of xery being the focal point one scoring a goal which is obvious but he also changed the game when he came on so that's that's the one the delit one just even like as well like Garo crossed the ball to xery for the full and winner they look so much more direct when that was happening poor old mason Mount up there like was it was it injury related well apparently I took the piss out of Ferdinand because he said he's playing so well it must be injury and I was like come on but even that there he's just like a dog without a bone up there is he he just like running around being made to do a position that he's not used to in a team that's like not built to do that and then you look at the back and I know we'll come on to it with different opinions but like the way you've bought in delit like and I I probably said like well it's maybe worked out better because now you definitely know Maguire is not the man to go forward so when deit does come in it's like real clear evidence like we were talking on Friday like what if Maguire has a really good game then asserts himself in the team going forward but that's the problem isn't it like you know if you're Birmingham or Chelsea or whatever like that and your manager buys the lit because you know your Center back's not good enough and then you're playing a game and he's picking Maguire it's a weird oh I've got a massive problem I've got I've [ __ ] my pants I've been to the shop and bought a new pair and then he turns up at the pubs thinking of [ __ ] why AR you wearing your new pants wellow I thought I could get another day out of him it's it's and he does it all the time he did it with casmiro two years ago it's like you clearly need a new center back but now you're using the old one and then he makes a mistake and we're meant to feel so that's what I mean that is I mean a lot of people in the chat are talking about rashford gacho you mentioned the striker situation took Bruno off with 10 minutes to go for momany who's got sold the next day just an absolute hat full of bad bad decisions and we only lost two one in stoppage time so you just think if he'd made one or two decisions differently probably would have won and I think all it comes back to especially with tenh is like a large majority of the time the subs are just always seem to be wrong or like he makes a sub and you're like it's almost a bit like the G Southgate syndrome where you think well until this Euros with Watkins coming on but like it's a bit I just feel he always gets the to be bringing xerx on at half time's good but then the backdrop like you said is like he should have started anyway well the B drop is that he might he might have done it because he was in Mount was injured in which case have done it look what I will say as United fan is I want ten hog to do well and I will back him as everybody knows who watches the United stand and it's certainly not time to sack him but what I will concede is still two days later furious with the with the volume of bad decisions and I've got a right to say that even though I want the manager to do well you can say you did it in the summer with Southgate you know you've always stuck by him but you got to a point where you're like well I'm not saying sack him but bloody Al he's making a lot of mistakes and I feel like ten hog is almost Southgate in the World Cup in the Euros he's like he's making decisions you're going why why and I think that was the frustration um I mean Marcus rashford's a problem onto himself like he's just so people are waiting for this switch it's been a long time we've been waiting for the switch like I don't to turn it on yeah yeah and I think like we we wanted to have a little chat about like players that need to move on before the end of the window got some big shouts in there but I think Marcus rashford's one of them because how many times have we sat down you'd have done it so many much more on the United stand but like Alan sherid to be fair the analysis on the on Match of the day was good yeah yeah just like just constantly and just saying like I mean again I didit been mention this for a long time so I don't know whether sheir has been watching the United stand yeah big fan yeah he loves uh and he loves your own personal Channel as well actually but more content on that but I Hees driving goldbridge yeah he loves that um does it while he's iring yeah he um it's he was saying like he's what 26 27 and I still have that just because he's been so young and it's you know like it's like an elderly relative aren't they when you see an elderly relative they're old for your whole life they're 60 to 90 they're old like rashford's always like a kid in our eyes but he he is in his late 20s now and he has got a mature to be like like that goal should have stood by by an inch or a yard and the xerx he one's different just because it is a bit of an anomaly but yeah he's he's bad Lu I felt frustrated at the time it's bad but then but again it's like um we were speaking about Chelsea with like the man United's problem was a striker and not being able to score goals at this well going into this game and then the defend being a little bit shaky from the B they bought the lit and they've got xery and they're both on the bench so it's just like yeah and this is 10 AR he's frustrating but like we how like we we are common men we are just but men Mark and like to say football though yeah collectively with the chat when it's universally like we can all agree on it I just think like why what are you doing what I've learned about United that I never learned in the first you know I mean when s Alex Ferguson took over Manchester United I was six so basically I had Sir Alex Ferguson from six until you know however old I was when he retired what 10 I was in to my 30s when he retired so basically that's all I had this Elite oh can I just say talking about Elite Matthew luns gifted five memberships in the live chat what a legend he is get your comments in um yeah I had this Elite manager who you just had total faith in and he did make mistakes but you go it's Sir Alex and then what the last 10 years has taught me and I'm sure there's a lot you a lot of football fans will agree is that although these people are managers and players they are meere Mortals and actually a lot of the time you get a lot more sense at Stanford Bridge or the Emirates or anfield than you do in the boardroom certainly and I think that's that's the disappointing thing is that you don't feel any guilts calling out these inadequacies because you know full well that we've had 10 years of these mistakes at United and I I can see with ten hog the reason You' got the moral Crusaders over the weekend going it's only the second game you can see what he's trying to do and I'm like yeah but this happened to olle happened to Jose they got into this stubb andn rut at the start of the season and they were gone by Christmas so if ten hog either takes the warning I don't think he is going to get get the sack but he can't make that many mistakes every game and like if like you said with the false n thing it's like right that feels like to to everyone like his plan a if he goes with a false nine he'll lose his job yeah yeah I'll say that right now you can't spend 100 million pounds on xery and Rasmus and then go on playing a false nine now you can't no I won't have it you can't have that I'm sorry you're not doing it don't do it again Eric you're not picking a false nine delet it right we're going to do one at the back now eight midfielders yeah you in year three you can't it's it's like it's like the Batman Trilogy isn't it the first two films are good and then in the third one Batman turns up dressed up as a bloody cow yeah I'm I'm I'm moonman now you're not your Batman get your bloody Batman stuff on you're not a cow you're Pratt yeah yeah I'm irritated by this false n no I just I I just it's just real staggering like when it just seems so obvious to us he made so many mistakes on Saturday it so many and and and again I think it's highlighted even more just going up against the manager who's going up against who is like as everyone say there's three players older than him in the team and tactically he got it so much more spot on with his substitution with his changes and like what what what did he well I think my interpretation the Brighton manager is he just did probably what most of us would do he was like this is how the game's going right let's tweak it here and there let's stick to the plan let's stay organized let's stay in the game oh we've won it at the end whereas ten AR's going I'm putting Maguire at the back I'm putting gatu on the bench and playing two false NES I'm taking Bruno off for the last 10 minutes and you're like you're creating chaos while this guy in the other tunnel was just going stick to the plan tweak it trust yourselves and when he did his Subs as well weren there was just like a big batch of them around like the 90 minute Mark wasn't there so just to be like right pigs and [ __ ] let's go for it and it worked out and like I know you've talked about the the defending which is like but I just what if you've got an organized team and and an organized and more it's not experienced because Maguire's got that but like to have the two three players lining up at the back post it's just embarrassing Sunday League it's and that was on casmiro but look Willie ten third in the sack race that's going to happen when you're Man United manager we're going to talk about D in a little bit and we'll talk about maresa but one game I did want to talk about was the Villa - Arsenal Villa Arsenal game I watched this on Saturday as well a lot of people saying arsenal were lucky do you think they were lucky in the chat let us know but um I felt the game was actually very similar Brighton Man United and Villa um sorry Brighton Man United and Villa Arsenal I felt there was a lot of similarity there in the sense that ten hog went weird whereas artetta just stayed calm you know Ole Watkins brilliant sa from Rey Mr chance as well Villa probably had the XG on a different day day Villa win that game but you could say that about United you know the gono thing United could have got a draw they could have won it but Brighton won Arsenal I would not Define that as lucky because I think what they did is we know they've got the best defense in the league yes Ole Watkins should score but they St they stay calm he takes Martinelli off for Charzard who I think [ __ ] should be starting more games the chance comes they score Martinez makes a mistake on the second one two-nil win Arsenal get that job done weren't wasn't their best day but we weren't surprised by it and I think you know that is why Arsenal are where they are and 10 ARS United are where they are because artetta just stayed calm rode the storm that you know is going to happen away from home in the Premier League kept the clean sheet and and and didn't start doing silly things just kept like we keep going we keep going and they come away with a two-nil win and Villa every right to be you know disappointed and we'll talk about the star of the game in a moment but what what a what a job by Arsenal I don't think you can call that lucky but I think the lucky element comes into it because OE Watkins like though we can say like two big chances they were two massive massive chances like the first one I think they were saying about his footwork maybe not being there but he can still take a touch because he's just got so much room because it's come on on the on the turnover look a bit Rusty in he looking but he should score that and then the one I mean we talk about Ray sa but there no way should even have a chance to save that well it's a great save from Rea but the ball's still very Central that's what I mean if you put it anywhere that's where I think they've got lucky because you've got one of the Premier League's best strikers who's trying to have a season where he's kicking on from last and he's just effectively he has cost Aston Villa the game there well having said that if Watkins scores then Villa probably go a bit defensive Arsenal would probably go and get a draw and then also because of that fact as well I think they the substitutions that they bought on sort of changed that pressing didn't they because they were sort of like they were mentioning the analysis closing up the gaps there and then as soon as the changes came on there was just a little bit of a gap where they give PA the pass in and then all of a sudden everyone's on the counter everyone's on the break so I think the Watkins misses was a domino effect all the way down to to the winners from Arsenal and yeah Martinez at the end should be saving that shot from Thomas party hmd says Villa is a tough team unai Emory team is a difficult game to play look I messaged one of my filler mates after the game and I went you know actually this is the way to say it I don't think arsenal were lucky I think Villa were unlucky in the sense if you're a fan of villa I watched them play against West Ham they deserve to win that and they were very unlucky to give a penalty away but they still managed to win against Arsenal you win that game probably six seven eight times out of 10 which is why as an Arsenal fan you know that game's difficult they beat you twice last season we spoke about it on Friday You Come Away with a two-nil win you say we don't need to worry about Villa for another five months yeah you leave Villa with that Villa will be fine Villa just need to bounce back again um but um I thought that look for me I can't I can I can hold it in no longer um it's one of the big controversies for me we're here to save football the goldbridge saves football podcast and I felt on Saturday there was a a new segment to this show we always have Pratt of the week well I want to have star of the week and um I can't nominate myself so I'm going to go with Morgan Rogers at Aston Villa now I know you're a big hater of villa because you're a Blues fan but for me Morgan Rogers reignited my passion in football I love football but I was just like watching Gasco in the late 80s I haven't seen a player do this in ages it it excites me I the players that excite me are the players who get me off the edge of my seat and Morgan roggers at the weekend unexpectedly I'd heard things about him but I've never really watched him and I watched him against Arsenal one of the best teams in in the world let's be honest terrifying rice and parte because every time he got the ball he didn't take people on every time he'd lay off and run but he wants to run at people and we've become so indoctrinated into this pep style football of possession and passing between the lines that's fine but there's no antidote to that and what we saw on Saturday was just how effective it is when you play a team that's very structured and you skip past the player arsenal were like [ __ ] someone's got to go to him and the space was there um a fantastic individual performance and I think that as a podcast that's here to save football hypothetically from bad decisions V and you know three and blackout and all that we also are here to look at the evolution of football and what Morgan Rogers offered there is something that as a kid when I watched Lee sharp in the early 90s and I was playing at lunchtime I want to be Lee sharp I hope there's a lot of kids you know playing in the Parks and stuff today or on FIFA let's be honest and they want to be Morgan Rogers because that to me could be a spark that starts a fire and where I'm really disappointed will is is that when I look at the BBC game of the week and he's not in there I think we've got to call that out because if that is a spark the mainstream are putting putting it out why is he not in game of the week like that team of the that was team of the week that was that was symbolic of a different style of football that's gone missing from the game and they go and put Smith Ro de bruyne and who was the other one in the Midfield um Smith Ro de bruyne let me just get so BBC team of the week that they do every week they don't put Morgan Rogers in and I tell you what it Hawks back to what I hate about punditry in the mainstream used to get this as a kid you'd watch a game on the Telly who's your man of the match then Graham well um let's give it to the goal scorer and I think that's what they've done on BBC team of the week well Smith Rose scored a goal de bruyne scored a goal and who else madw madw scored a hatrick huming son son scored a goal like Morgan Rogers for the good of football should be in everybody's team of the week and I'm I'm disgusted that it's been you're telling me that who who did that team was it Troy Troy d well I'll be careful cuz he' knocked me out quite easily he's he not only he's the best footballer that ever lived but he'd also knock out Prime alley apparently so but I just don't I don't know why Troy or the BBC you wouldn't put Morgan Rogers in like he was just cintilla and and also he was on the losing team when you when you see a player on a losing team who's man of the mat Arsenal fans would just I tell you what I saw a brilliant bit of analysis as well on on Thursday it was on Twitter an Arsenal fan said I'm really worried about Morgan Rogers exploiting parte on Sunday I was like what's he smoking and and it happened that's analysis uh yeah I mean the guy had a good really good game but I mean the way you've just talked is like the second coming of Christ has just come about like they should be remember the zidan movie I'm expecting like that that to be released at the end of the week and it'll be about Morgan Rogers I've just jinxed the [ __ ] out of him let's be honest he's done now yeah like the guy had a really good game but like he's not might be a greish at Villa though yeah yeah but what pep did to him just I think calm down just calm down a little bit you know what greish and Billa was like have you ever seen Game of Thrones he won't have seen it n have seen it you know there's a g there's a gay there's not a gay in it there probably is there's a guy in it called what's it's not he's not called thogden sorry you know the one who has his sausage chopped off oh thon's had his sausage chopped off Theon Theon not Thon a lot of people probably might like that to happened to Thon there's this character in Game of Thrones called Theon right he's charismatic he's got a bit of an edge to him anyway he ends up getting his sausage chopped off right changes his personality completely becomes he redeems himself at the end heroically but for a long time he's he's half a man right sorry um how does it relate back to Morgan Rogers because that's what happened with um Jack Gish Jack greish he was he he basically he was a brilliant player and then he's had something chopped off well I mentioned earlier players that I want to see leave in January and I did put down Jack G this year because he's 28 now and you just feel like that career is going way isn't it he'll beat a city for another two years is a bit of part player when really going into a World Cup in America he should be one of the standout talents in the world really because of everything he had bit of breaking news coming in here it's always uh Morgan R.I.P Sven Rogers Morgan Rogers has just got the Bal onor presented by Mark keep do you want to guess anything else that you're going to regret when I tell you what the breaking news is God almost died yeah rest in peace sengor and Erikson oh has he passed away yeah I mean it's not a surprise um it is isn't a surprise because he's been ill for a very long time um but um look it's always sad when you hear about stuff like that and uh we've been known we've known it's been coming for a long time lovely lovely guy lots of lots of lovely chats coming in um lovely guy um and yeah also what a way to sort of like take that news and then he just sort of turned it into like a real positive didn't he he was like I've only got a certain amount of time left on this Earth and then he sort of like ticking off things from his bucket list of an already Amazing Life uh getting to do that game down at Liverpool and also I think the big one you I think a lot of us speak about that England team very negatively because of the golden generation but you look at all the tributes that were coming when the news first broke and it was all from that team and they were all so happy to do it and all so glowing so what's the saying of like you you um people were can forget what you do but won't forget how you made them feel and that's probably a good I'm old enough to remember because obviously in 2002 Japan was when I thought we bottled it actually um but I was old enough to be I was in pubs and stuff so I wasn't like a kid so I you know I was I was an adult essentially and um what I remember about that what I'm trying to say is it's probably very similar to Southgate in the sense I think the players that played for him really really loved him and I think you've got the same with South Gate but how even harder then because it was like this fractured fractured dressing room was um and ultimately wasn't the the football wasn't great it was a bit pragmatic and you know that Brazil game in 2002 also the euros and 04 he was a bit unlucky with Rooney but I tell you what that's where I was going to go with this 02 I felt we bottled it but 04 I think we would have won those Euros at an absolute caner if if Rooney hadn't broken his foot um and you speak about you know and that was an very underrated tournament where we were absolutely brilliant and then Rooney broke his foot and we lost on penalties to Portugal without him so I think that's why I'll look back on schv he was a bit pragmatic it was time to go when he went and he didn't win anything but actually apart from 96 and 90 I'd say' 04 is the missing tournament for me where I was actually excited by England and felt part of something as Rooney came through and and that was Shen so very sad he'll have a legacy in the game especially in English football um and um obviously we've known it's coming for a long time but rest in peace Shen yeah rest in peace going Ericson anyway from Death to Chelsea W um that's that I feel like Shen I feel like Shen was looking down Cool transition to Chelsea upon you for Morgan Rogers then because I gave Morgan Rogers a load of bloody hype we pass it to the Blues fan and he starts skirting around the issue not skir I think you need to down a biten dies and you get a bloody get jail card also I know there's a spot on the one show now but they're very good at doing their links from good to sat you could not be doing a one show link from Death to Chelsea you got to be you got to be more blend it in a little bit more I want the one show no well you don't not saying off there um where did should we stay with Chelsea yeah well well I wanted to talk about Chelsea because um I I was already ready on Saturday to say um that um Chelsea and crisis Sunday I think I think I really thought wolves would get something and then they go and absolutely obliterate them um and Destroy not only wolves but a lot of their critics as well but I I'm glad I sort of got on the Mesa train a little bit last week I mean I didn't understand the signing when it came out but I did say last week that he's got every right to throw Sterling into the reserves and you know a manager must be able to manage and and that's what they've given him the opportunity to do um I thought they were fantastic against wolves um Cole Palmer what a player Mada wakei you know his little Instagram saying what a [ __ ] all wolver rampton was and then he absolutely shot on him actually mentally um yeah I think the Wolves fans won't be wanting him back again but I think with regards to maresa he's an interesting character I mean I look I took a lot of my criticism of Mesa from Li Leicester fans who said football's really boring you know even though they got promoted which I always found weird you get a few phoning in when I was doing the talk sports show saying yeah the football's boring but really interesting what he said after the game will where he said I'm not I've not been told I've got to win a trophy or get top four I've got to get this squad playing better and economically we've got to get players out and that's my job this year I thought woo so it's a long-term project then yeah and and also in the week before wasn't it he was just saying about how you know he he's got to get it down to that 25 and he you know he's got to make calls and and he does he comes across quite assertive and like he is in charge where I think before we've labeled him sort of like being a bit of a puppet for for what's above but like he is making those big decisions on those big players that are so established and on big wages so I I'm just quite interested in the team that went out in that second half against wolves like you want to talk about like it was an endtoend game wasn't it like if if the we are maybe getting a bit of an antidote to this pep guardi stuff because the Wolves Chelsea game was end to endend it so quick yeah and M and Cole Palmer just linking up so great as well so and in just bringing on Netto and Felix to that sort of round off the game I think he's probably got a clear 22 25 in his head and if he can get it down to what he wants then maybe moving forward that's a quite exciting team I know you said about maybe is aan the missing piece for the for the for the top four but I think if I I I think thankfully I said it before the Wolves game anyway so I can live off this if it happens but um oosman Chelsea top four nailed on I mean you look at the quality of that Squad that's crazy saying another piece though isn't it but they do need that you know Nicholas Jackson scored the opener the rumor is he was trying to clear it soet it did well but I think at the I think any Chelsea fan knows that Jackson can't be it you you you need something better than that and Osman I think had a is is the perfect player for Chelsea and if they get him they'll get top four but even if they don't get him it's very early days but I would still think everybody in football would look at that Chelsea Squad and say bar Man City and even Man City now I mean Chelsea's Squad is is Elite it's an Elite Squad like there is there is so much talent there the problem has been Rhythm continuity personality and um what do they call camaraderie if they get that they'll be a very very hard team to stop and they were sort of building momentum with pettino at the end of the season anyway momentum poino has done what um Mesa needs to do now isn't it of like getting everyone into the positions and and knowing the roles I think we spoke the other week about the Liverpool Squad that's a really well-rounded Squad in terms of everyone knows their positions and where they're at whereas Chelsea at the moment but it does feel that they're on a on a on a on a rooll to sort of be like right J Felix you're probably not going to start every game but like this is my 11 this is my backup these are my rotation options but you have to give them time for that because it's an absolute circus there at the moment isn't it look where are we now end of the week we got the transfer deadline date that place is going to be I'd be like get a camera there and a presenter and just see who's coming in and who's going out well there was talk last night because I did it on the United stand that they want to get Sancho in and I'm sort of like oh yeah I mean you've got to really you've not only got to be a Chelsea fan you've got to have studied Chelsea it's it's almost like an a level you've got you can't just be a Chelsea fan to understand what's going on you've got to have studied Chelsea for the last two years to pass the exam because don't I don't I I say this honestly why did Chelsea need Sancho but a Chelsea fan would probably go well this player's gone this player's gone he's not being used he's in the youth so actually we've only got madai and kungu mudrick so Sancho would be very useful but for me you've got about 50 Wingers so I don't know what's going to happen but what you do know is that Chelsea going to do more business and I think Osman would be I mean I still think they need a new goalkeeper but you can get by with that but if they get Osman they got a good run of fixtures get a bit of momentum going ignore the conference League top Four's on top four is the top four is the race but then you look at like the play for this week for like like these is like it's not just saying that need to get rid of some Squad players this week we could see Sterling go lukaku's um got a go um Ben chilwell just been s out Trevor shalar who we all sort of like beging up as a homegoing talent that's probably like what another 150 mil there I'd be really interested to see who takes Sterling I mean I I had this argument with man united like you know man united can't sell Jaden Sancho who's 24 with three years left on his contract on 250k a week and they're like please go please go you got Chelsea going 29 year old rahee Sterling on 300K a week on a longer contract get out and it's like one Club Chelsea are like just get out the other club United go we can't get rid of you I mean what's the difference between Chelsea and man united that Chelsea can just go yeah get out but with the S well also there was other links didn't um B take a trip to Saudi Arabia last year and then there was a lot of business that seemed to happen quite quickly wasn't there but like I think with Sterling he's at the latter end of his career where he could like I'm not saying this I don't know him but he could say I'm just going to sit on this where it's Sancho is You' probably trying to find a middle ground for him to just be like I've got the peak three years well to put me into my Peak I need to find a club that like pursues me and gives me the dreams and goals that I want uh just go flip back a bit Z3 music official actually makes a really good point and it's a super chat so call me a super simpleton but to play Devil's Advocate the formation isn't the biggest issue for United they scored two goals that were offside I blame that just as much if not more very good point actually because um rashford scored didn't he offside Xerxes was offside yeah man united was second in the league last season for offsides we're probably second in the league again it is such an annoying thing at any level of football and when I used to play at like under 14 level in a school Cup game if your Striker was offside oh yeah you'd be furious especially back then cuz it's just long ball forward just like it's not difficult to stay on side if it's one of them marginal ones you'd go L that's but like keeps happening the rashford goal he was offside before the goal literally the play before and then again like he like born offside it's like it's so amateur lazy and low IQ and it's not just rashford United are offside all the time and it's a great Point we'd have had two goals If people could stay on side uh Robert mccor says rest in peace Fen Azan has been a member for seven months he says Chelsea silence in the critics but I hope this is more consistent and that's what it needs to be isn't it he got nearly uh 9,000 people watching so remember we're live every Monday at 12:00 with our Premier League review and preview on a Friday at 12 get involved with the movement and you can listen to it on Spotify as well um let's move to WS um I wanted to just we spoke about Chelsea there we spoke about Arsenal um we'll do Man City and Liverpool in minut I just wanted to talk Everton about Everton for a moment because a controversial um moment uh for Everton going back from the game against Spurs and we've got an amazingly pred comment from Michael Owen as well so we've got two big topical points here but Everton are getting the train back look like Marley mod to me no incorrect mark it was actually platform two on London Houston that's what I'm going with because you can see the fire exit where where I think the players get off and can get an what they thought would be an easy entry onto the train right okay could be Houston let us Houston he's a train stopper train train Spotter and he likes Star Trek so basically Everton fans are waiting yeah you know they've come prepared and yeah but also I know you'd be getting the train from King's cross if you would but that is on the way to Houston sorry so they're waiting give them really loads of abuse I think uh Moree got the most yeah but he gave it back as well and he gave a bit back and it was it was it was a few seconds now NY our producer was Furious about this he said it's disgraceful um what are your thoughts on that first of all you football fans look we see it we're doing it now you people do it all over social media it is a step up when you're there in their face screaming and shouting like that is that justified second game into the season 4-n loss at Spurs I don't think it's Justified to do it then you know not bring n back into it N I send me out St Andrews where you know I I'll just be I'll be having a casual conversation and something that piss me off and I'll just flip a switch because I think in the stadium you can just but yeah going back to um going to this and it's like you said it's the second game it's a stinking defeat but I mean the best bit about Everton and some of those relegation battles where they've just all United as a team and they can't be going into this season thinking like what top like I'm not saying that the results and the the manner of the performances isn't it the way like Jordan pford for the second goal hopefully that doesn't happen every week and it's not going to so I I do I do I think the fans are in the wrong there for just I think M's come out and just said about you know the amount of abuse that they have to take just when they're on the way back home just like a bad tweet you reckon well so basically Morp said look this is what this is what we have to put up with and straight away I'm not saying it's my opinion but this is the abuse we have to put up with right you're on hundreds of thousands pounds a week right I used to work in the police I've seen what firemen get fire person Morrison's CF paramedics Morrison's CF like come on like people get abuse in the street in all sorts of jobs and as a footballer you know you're on you're on very very good money I think it's not not so much the abuse it's just like try and build like the the yeah build rapport for Everton as well but that's both ways from the fans like the best things I've seen at Everton is when they've been in those dog fights over the last year and you know the the people have been coming to the stadium with everything they' create an absolute cauldon there so but I think Morp is an everon player the worst thing you can do is go on social media and go you know quote you know basically you know promote the video clip of the abuse and go look at what we have to put up with they're your fans you know you've got to look at why they're doing that and how do I build that you you don't isolate them by calling them out and as Kevin Carter said Everton are doomed and uh the fans have got every right to vent their opinion they have I I I agree that venting your opinion I haven't got a problemen in your opinion swearing in this situation or or or or in a stadium um or or on social media I don't care what you do on there but going to a train station to wait for the players to shout abuse at them I just just think in some ways you understand it and everybody's different but it where I where I would critique it is it that it dilutes the conversation because we've had this at United and it was a long running thing from the press that the glazers when the Glazer out movement started Etc they just saw United fans as hysterical yeah and and I think when you've got fans at a train station shouting and swearing at Players you sort of can go yeah that's not that's not the best representation of your frustration think that there are better ways to do it and I don't know what the intricacies of Everton are but if Everton's problem is the way the club's being run or the way the manager playing then there are better ways to do express your anger you understand the anger and the frustration I mean it's a joke seven goals conceded non-scored in the first two games and it's just I look at Everton and you're probably old enough to remember I don't see Everton if you're going to play with d you've got to be mid-table you can't just fight relegation with d and stay up that's not what Everton football club's about yeah but he like he's had his best options taken away from him hasn't he he's doing what he can do but it's not good enough is it no but and also it's fundamentally like I've had this at Birmingham like it's an ownership problem like Everton don't really know where they're going and it's not like here's your fiveyear plan we know we're moving into this new stadium with the backdrop at is we could be doing it in the championship and let me tell you Everton fans might not actually be a bad thing you go down you probably win the majority of your games and you have a lovely first season in that Stadium but I think fun things like this almost gets probably good the owners are that bad they probably think it distracts from what the truth is and like that that is them running the club so badly where they're on the second season and and things like that are almost the fuse for the bad performan is the fuse for those moments aren't they where like the fans are so angry and then they've just traveled all the way to London spend God knows how much money and then just see a performance like that and then malpai tells him to [ __ ] off so you're probably like you what yeah you little [ __ ] so I just yeah fundamentally bigger issues at Everton and like that the weekend has been the the fuse for the touch paper he's winning the um relegation uh sorry he's winning the sack race D he's ahead of moras what you do like d is who you'd bring in to replace D do you know what I mean well with that everon team like who would you bring in I I always said thisel I think this is a question for football anyway in general it's not just Everton's question when you look at ipswitch with Kieran McKenna or you look at Bournemouth with uh their manager that I can't pronounce his name and you look at uh Sil at Fulham they've all got a style of play that the fans can get behind Everton have just gone for the guy that will keep us up and I think Everton's big fan would be big if I was an Everton fan I'd be saying I don't just want to stay up with d ball every year like I'd rather stay up with what Bournemouth are doing or with what are trying doing and I think that's the big problem in the modern game is that D is a bit of a A Relic fa fair or not it will always say look at my XG but my point is D is associated with the sty of football that's never going to be it's a bit like Moyes at West Ham in it West Ham wanted more and um well that is that the man to replace him yeah I just look if Everton want to stay play play better brand of football you're going to need a better manager but I mean I look at it's not the pieces there to do it with is there Spurs annihilated them on Sunday Saturday and Leicester got a point out of Spurs by playing a better brand of football than Everton and and Spurs battered Everton without salanki as well yeah no I I think fundamentally like as a fan you get behind things if you can see them so on the pitch you don't know what you get in with d because obviously he's having to change and be more pragmatic then from a board level you know like when blues got relegated it was bad but like we there's a plan in place and at board level you just not got that have you like you're going into a stadium but what what are you going to get excited about I've got to bring this in about Spurs very very good game um really good good good result they've got Newcastle away next week I think difficult start for Spurs not beating Leicester it sort of it's not a terrible result but it sort of leaves them a little bit like they can't they don't really want to slip up again at Newcastle next week um I don't know how long sank is going to be out for but it sort of messed up my FPL anyway um you in the salanki coner Barco debacco no what's that we just I had Sal some people sorry had salanki Barco from Brighton who didn't play and then Quanza oh I did have Barco I did I did um I'm not happy with FPL actually I did my wild card and um I did it on Friday oh [ __ ] God you've got to you've got to text me when you're doing these things cuz that's idiotic I know it is but I felt like doing it and and it went wrong anyway because I I I I I I looked at my team on Saturday afternoon and I still had eak captain and I don't understand why because I'd used my wild card I'd changed my team and I saved it and I went in and I've got pford Vice Captain is and Anthony Robinson on my bench and Twan so starting I was like this I'm giving up I'm giving up just text me so I could be PR I could be a proud of the Micheal Owen we I could be but I found a bit of Michael Owen to save me really um just when you think you might be the biggest Pratt of the week Michael Owen will uh will come in so uh imagine Michael Owen sat in his mansion with a cup of tea and a dipping a hobnob in it slippers and dressing gown on bit of a pipe setting the scene here when he heard about salanki signing for Spurs so Vision Michael and all that and he goes I thought yeah I like that I see that but then I heard about the fee and I thought oh that's chunky talking about his biscuit I thought I thought that's quite heavy biscuit I thought he might be a 30 35 million pound player so I mean I should be doing o Oaks as I say Michael O in there oh I like that I like the look of that and then I thought oh the fee is a bit big yeah bit chunky bit heavy watch where are you going with this 30 to 35 million is what Michael Owen values Salan at can I just say 26 years of age with a contract till 2027 at Bournemouth yeah yeah and a release Clause of 65 million sometimes pundits who get paid a lot of money to talk about football should know their ass from their elbow there ain't no way in a million years probably even 2014 he wasn't worth 35 million so I'm saying if if if he was playing 26 he scored loads of goals for born he's English he's 26 with three years left on his contract and old Michael Owen don't ever give him a job as your director of football well leave it to me I'm off to Bournemouth I've got a horse to fetch I'll I'll bring salanki back as well 30 million final offer I think you know what you're going to do I'll be in the pub watching the horse races I am going to do something I've never done before don't you you never do again we'll have a new co-host next week well if that's what do not do what I think you're going to do no but what I'm saying is I think he's saying in his head yeah and we know what goes on in there [ __ ] yeah that the the way football's gone that he's saying he should be worth that in a normal world what in what in 1999 no no no no no no no no I'm just saying that that's what I'm that's what he's saying I think I'm not saying he thinks he's worth that but I just to dispel all those rumors one I didn't mention a couple of weeks ago which you're still not see which looks even better now he did his top four predictions for the start of the Season yeah and did you see them M GL yeah no oh so this is you think he's doing it on purpose oh he this one must be like doing on purpos before I was like throwing you something out there there's your wrot but like he's gone the other way is actually a comedic genius yeah yeah maybe he's sat there going they've done it again they've took me seriously again so Mich Owen coining it in Michael owens's top four in reverse order in Fourth Man City oh God this is a joke he's doing it on purpose he's doing it on purpose someone tweeted it and to go to the official graphic and it was third Villa second Liverpool first Arsenal if Man City finish anywhere other than the top two yeah I will buy him a horse I'll give five grand to horses Michael Owen yeah yeah Michael owens's horses yeah I'll feed his horses um yeah yeah I mean that is that is bad but yeah God this is what we have to put up with in America they've got Steve nickel and Craig burle and they think they have it bad we've got we he's not the only one when we do need maybe we need to make a trip to America and just say look we're here stand outside some of the offices and just go give us a chance s salanki is never worth 30 to 35 I mean Ivan Tony's no I I agree I Ivan Tony is worth 50 million with a year left on his contract at 2728 if you score goals in the Premier League for a team in the bottom half Arsenal haven't got a striker Chelsea need a striker you know Villa wkins and isach are worth over a 100 million easy and they're scoring just because they're scoring goals of villa and Newcastle that they're a Dying Breed yeah they are and and also yeah we tell that to your manager because he's bought two of them and he's not playing any sank at 60 M 65 million is a little bit steep I'd say 50 million but no I mean he's not 30 35 that's nonsense because obviously the sad news broke um halfway through I think we were going to go on to your star of the week which he did put a poll out for but if you is if if you've done that dialogue and not picking Rogers is your star of the week I think that's why I created star of the week we've always had Pratt of the week I created star of the week cuz I want to high I do a theme tune for it star of the week anyway the reason I want to bring star of the week in is because we are very critical with Pratt of the week and with star of the week I want to highlight in football something that's just pure positive energy and I thought that's what we got from Morgan Rogers to be in the Premier League going forward no no it could be a good new story Mark Harris is for Oxford against Blackburn Rover absolute thunderbastard yeah really you're a fan of the efl now remember where you are I haven't seen all the goals yet I see Charon beat what Peg Thon Peter k your boys took one all of a beating pat mcginness patty mcginness what's the show he does Max and Paddy no does no likey no li no don't like that take me out take me out we just have took you out three points to Charlton have it um the forums will be going mad three from three three from three um three from three you just going chartan full chartman I am I'm League one yeah uh yeah but efl we sat down here Friday and for some reason you said Burnley are going to beat Sunderland well have that because it's three in a row for Sunderland Sunderland Sunderland won Burnley nil Scott Parker in the M yeah he's got expensive jackets but he has he got the win no he hasn't Bristol city won centry one yeah all we need we need to talk I need to get rid of centry yeah I'm giving you options although centry fan did do that Liam Gallagher tweet with me looking in the snow oh yeah that was I retweeted so I'm sort of now think I'm I'm still undecided the transfer deadline is Friday yeah we've got a show on Friday Sun uh options I was giving you were Portsmouth that that got involved with Portsmouth yeah um Watford because of Tom cleverly you said middlesburg because of Michael Carrick uh League one obviously you've mentioned Charon B Bolton uh my beloved Birmingham city is still unbeaten I I tell you you know you speak about pep guardiola's play obviously everyone's trying to pay at the back there was three goals in 15 minutes at the start of the game or 20 minutes all of them because of mistakes from passing at the back like sometimes you just got to say no not in we're in League one Lads but we beat late Orient 21 kns County played on the Thursday they already won 4-1 and uh chelham town it's not been great bro uh they lost as well in the National League did they I thought they drew oh no they drew got L and they're playing today as well Championship Games today no no championship games that's a shame um support your local um efl cup watch alongs I wasn't planning on it I've just SE a great chat from top top player with a top top comment he said imagine being a Napoli fan signing Lukaku and momany that's a tough wank yeah that no that yeah I think that should be a new SE section on our thing what's a tough W that's a tough wank you w get that on Match of the day no yeah you do on his podcast they go though oh Lads listen to this get down with the with the with the youut yeah I think what's a what's a tough wank from this what were we saying before the I don't know if it was could we say I we could say about podcast right yeah and they'd kill us but yeah I The transfer window think oh just on transfers though very interesting obviously we cover everything here and you know this is an really interesting point so you know I've said that this transfer window is dead worst transfer window in years so 850 million has been spent less in this transfer window compared to last year we're at 1 and A2 billion across the transfer window so far that's 800 million less than last year what a falloff for the transfer window I told you I had a feeling and I was right and it feels like it's going to get like you can't imagine it getting to January just because of the new rules that are in place that it's going to change what it's all about apparently PSR ffp um I'm not a fan of it will I've got to be honest I mean I know we don't like ridiculous wages and transfer fees but you know I do I do feel like I mean Liverpool haven't bought anybody I sort of respect it in a way there might be a reason for that but man city really haven't done that much Arsenal a little bit United have done a bit Chelsea have done a bit but there's not you know that's the the season ends and then the transfer window opens and it's like a different area isn't it and it has been I I say shame on the Premier League because it's a you know as somebody that used to get home from school and put teletext on and Page 312 um transfers are such a unique and exciting part of football and they've diluted it again theyve diluted it because all the clubs have got the money they just can't spend it I mean Villa had to sell Douglas Lise Newcastle could spend we're not saying let them spend a billion let them spend Simon but maybe let everybody spend another hundred million so then that's another billion being spent no but and also like ethics aside the Newcastle thing where they have got the money is like um like Liverpool just signed someone apparently they they bought oh M marmalade that's not his name yeah I can't pronounce it in the Euros good keeper from Spain but he's a backup anyway but that's what I mean like Newcastle Villa like we've said it so many times Villa got into the champions league and have to look to sell before they can buy these should be crowning moments in teams histories going forward like you think back to you remember 2002 2003 when Chelsea got that money and they were literally signing the best and and the good but the the backdrop is we sat here after four seasons of Manchester United Premier League dominance and that's not going to change because they've got the keys to the castle they're the dirty Rascals and no how do you even compete because Newcastle should be doing that they should be signing players that you know Liverpool and City are going for because especially last year when they had Champions League football they could offer everything but how do that's the worrying thing isn't it not because of the teams coming up it's like how do you change what's at the top need pep to go and then go you're not allowed to bring another manager in we tell you's coming in Will's got a manager years Sam allise is coming in for three years and that's the Cris that's the real no I think it's just and also because of the way Finance is happening players are going well not at Chelsea but you know like mbappe deal that should be for this window really exciting is he going is he not pre-contract agreements all done yeah and he's well it's like it's like Alonzo is the next Real Madrid manager we already know next next summer that's going to happen and it's like look I I'm I think football is fantastic and I think that's why Morgan Rogers this weekend ignited something in me that's been missing because it was Purity I've been on about this for a long time goal of the month 20 years ago would be goal of the season now because like we don't we don't get as many bangers because it's just so you know formic but um that's why you need to get down the efl mate bangers they're D diluting football and if there's ways that they can make it stronger then please do because we can't have an 800 million pound reduction in spending from last year that's a that's a huge percentage like that and also there's going to be another League eventually that you know like the way La lier operates and I mean that's dodgy at the best of times but like there's going to be other leagues that moop this up yeah they will and like I will dilute the Premier League yeah I don't think saud's going to be that answer but you know I mean League like they're in trouble at the moment uh I think that's a great point you know if we're going to reduce people to spend that much then we won't have the strongest League because other clubs will be able to compete it's weird and also like you know siral was on a bit felt like that was on a bit of a Revival as well like there are like maybe lower then they bought momy and Lukaku give a chance you know as well go to S it's B like the Premier League going to the toilet and the toilet s pulling your pants out just [ __ ] I like s but what are they doing no I like mcom he's a great player no he's crap I just want to add a bit more this this has been sent in just now so we know we did the Michael oen couple there is another one get your head around this it's a bit longer but just try and understand what he's doing because he thinks he's making basically the whole line of it is it doesn't take a genius More Michael Owen to work it out but let's phrase what he's talking about it's an interesting situation for rude vanoy at Manchester United because if it's five games 50 games or 500 games ten hog will get sacked at some point when it does happen the club will look for a new manager and because that takes time there is often an interim or a caretaker so if anoy doesn't go before tenh hard goes you would think he might get a handful of games um even Sola was temporary and heed well it doesn't take a genius to work out that having being a manager and now being the assistant manager van nissy could at some point manage man united what's he [ __ ] talking about SP what is he talking about at some point in the next 5,500 games ten hog might get sacked and if andoy is still there it doesn't take a genius to work out that he might get given a couple of games while they find another manager I mean this guy has got a bloody degree in stating the obvious I just think again I found that quite funny that one I think he's going to be not part of the week I think he's be my pundit of the Year going forward I think there's a lot of similarities um just any other things that we wanted to mop up there was a couple of things I still wanted to say go on um just in life in general or well Trossard deserves to start [ __ ] Arsenal has to start um as he looks to the camera um also I like this player a lot um as a as as a non- Arsenal fan every time I see him it's not just the goals I think technically I really liked him at Brighton I thought he was a very intelligent signing and obviously was a there was a bit of unhappiness that he after the goal in the sense that he's probably a bit frustrated I think arteta even acknowledged it but I think we are at the point now where I don't you know Martinelli Works harder in the sense that he's a bit more tenacious but trossard has got to start and it will get to a point where he he will say at the end of next season I want to move because you know I don't think he's one of them players who's part of a squad that goes I'm just happy to be here and I think Arsenal need to play him more as an outsider I look into that um so I think trad's got to start on the other hand I saw Trent being subbed off by Annie slot and he was a bit Moody and I thought I love this from players I saw Salah do it with klopp I've got no problem with charazard or Trent being moody and I've seen some people in the media saying oh petulant I'm I know as a fan of Liverpool or Arsenal I would bloody love it if a player comes off and they're angry because that means they want to stay but that is where good managers work because he's got every right to take him off to get other people game time it is a squad game and it's about that's what good managers do they manage those expectations and if it grows into I want to leave yeah that's bad management so I love all that yeah exactly yeah you can I think you take take it to a point and he can be disappointed and should be disappointed I think with on the trossard thing it felt like when he scored his goal with one of his first touches he was sort of almost saying that in his C in his celebration wasn't it it was like very muted and very like direct and um and also just that backline as well like going forward now with Timber Ben White settled in at right back like that back four could really be a a problem and just they brought it up in the analysis but the way they were celebrating tackles as well like I really like that that's a new thing you know United do it I just really like that and even the little thing with Ben White when he mcin blasted the ball at celba and Ben White was I'm having this and he just blasted the ball back at mcin it just just a little bit of thing that where you could label Arsenal as a bit weak and a bit uh weak-minded um yeah I think I think they're showing a lot more grit uh and then just because it's a little bit um of a clip that will probably do quite well you know me I'm always looking for that sort of stuff Palmer vs Foden um Palmer is better than foden well you said this but we talked about we did literally did Palmer and foden last week no I'm doing it again um Palmer for me is the player that I would take over foden and I've thought about it and I'm going to explain it properly now um Phil foden is a technical Genius of a player um but I think he's a system player I think Cole Palmer over the last year and he's done it again on Sunday he is a player that you can show you can throw him into a [ __ ] show and he will he will Blossom um he's more individualistic than foden I think he's more malleable than foden um and he is able to shine in teams that aren't necessarily Built To Succeed whereas Phil foden's whole career technically a wizard but it's in a Man City team that's run by Pep Guardiola and is a juggernaut and I think therefore we we don't know what foden would be like at Chelsea but we know what Cole Palmer is like at Chelsea and I just think he's an absolute sensation and I don't like saying it because he plays for Chelsea but if you're asking me who do I want at man united Phil foden or Cole Palmer it's not even a debate it's 100% Cole Palmer and I know it was set off a bit of a debate but I sort of yesterday I was watching him I was like he's doing this in a Chelsea side that's chaotic over the last 12 months yeah he's only been there for 12 months you know I look at Anthony at man united year three and he's still talking about this is going to be be my year this is a young player that went to Chelsea in chaos he played under two managers God knows what's going on above him and week in week out everybody knows he's the danger man and he's still doing stuff and also what I would say as asked the question yesterday will who will get the most goals and assists this season I think it was Salah and Watkins with the top two I'll be stunned if he stays fit if Cole Palmer doesn't top that he probably won't win the Golden Boot but and he might not win the most assists but I think goals and assists that type of player I shouted Watkins out for it last year I think he's uh if his name was Rod Rodney he'd be called Hot Rod I think they the unfair thing is not unfair but like I'd be really interesting to see if this is Pep Guardiola season what happens when a new manager comes in and how foden sort of reacts to that because at the moment obviously greish is the prime example of that the shackles are on you can't be Jack greish and Phil foden is obviously showing those absolute brilliant moments when he gets the opportunity but there is certain limitations put on him because of the team performance yeah so give him a full season under I don't know a another manager and I'd be interested to that but the fact that we both got on for England fantastic you're always going to get more respect doing what Palmer's doing at Chelsea than what foden's doing at Man City because it's the whole Man City yeah but yeah but whereas at Chelsea they're not a top four team their potential and Palmer is you know shining in that and that's why definitively for me I would take Palmer over foden love that few more Super chat just to end the stream thank you very much for make sure you if you're not youve subscribed drop a like on the video uh we are live so your donations and chats are coming in Ashley W says less spending also impacts lower down the pyramid as well which is a big thing for football fans and Robert well I'm a foot I don't know why I said like I wasn't a football fan uh Robert McCormack says City leads Birmingham treble this season you know when you can do the league bets yeah he's he's not really again last yeah what did he do yeah he's what did he do on firmingham massive favorites to get promoted leads in the Championships probably the dodgy want City massive favorites to win that's what he's just doing there East Enders tonight half past seven I'm thinking put your money put your dinner on it uh Kaiser vilhelm the second said oh they're flying in love the podcast even as a Liverpool fan look well I'm you know I'm I'm the neutral one here so you don't have to but you be you've been called a Liverpool sympathizer I'm just a football sympathizer exactly um Robert McCormack says Jackson has more non-penalty goals in the Premier League than Palmer Salah and hav since the start of last season I still think he's total crap yeah I wouldn't want him leading my line going forward we've got Alfie may look in many ways he probably gets a bit of a bad press but yeah by you but I don't see him as look the reality is there's not that many Strikers around now so he's probably not too bad but if we're talking isach Tony Watkins I wouldn't put Jackson in that category and then you've got a next category of Harry Kane and erling Harland there was people speaking about him when he came in and done different stat packages on him like again like you were speaking about Morgan Rogers like he was the second coming of Christ no don't start on Rogers what I'll tell you about Jackson is if oosman comes in Jackson will be sat on his ass because oosman is better and I'll be I'll be worried if oosman comes T would buy ozman and start Mason Mount that's what would happen going forward imagine that though if you bought ozman and you kept picking Jackson that's what goes on at man united every bloody week yeah can you imagine that um yeah anything else oh we P.O.T.W need to actually pick up P of the PRACK of the week what were you PR of the week cont senders uh I've got down Rio Ferdinand talking about the defender for the goal for the Maguire stuff oh just back in Maguire yeah yeah um Joe Cole was at it as well yeah Fernand and Joe Cole olle Watkins two stinking misses will he ever be considered world class Eric tenar for his starting 11 against Brighton Everton fans and that whole well maybe not them we've talked about Michael Owen and Mark goldbridge for the offside tweet about xery goal you know what it pains me to do it but sometimes you're harsher on the people that you love the most and I think it's got to be ten hard because I just cannot get past how many mistakes he made it wasn't just the team selections it was the substitutions I think it's I think ten hog this week and and we only lost by a stoppage time goal as well it's that fine margins that even even with all those mistakes we still didn't get battered I think that makes even more frustrating so for me it has to be ten hog this week as much as I want it to be he's got a lot to improve on this week he made a lot of Pratt mistakes yeah ten hog you're PR of the week Morgan Rogers you're the star of the week let's hope that we get more Morgan Rogers and that doesn't mean Morgan Rogers can go out and shag about I mean like we want more players like that if you haven't seen what he did watch Arsenal Villa back and then get down the park and start doing it take people on you've got to do you can't be slow reminds me of Southgate thanks everybody for watching listening supporting the podcast we are back on Friday at you wearing a different um After Shave oh you no it's it's an old one I've ran out you're making yourself smell nice me common that one that one Savage Robbie Savage Robbie saves yeah is it Charlie uh right thanks everyone for watching really appreciate it and uh rest in peace Fen gor and Ericson of course we have spoken about that but a lot of people still mentioning it support the podcast you can listen to it on Spotify of course uh we're back on Friday at midday live uh loving the Premier League review show and uh if uh you've got any comments or ideas let us know because star of the week is a new one and I like it thanks will thank you Mark