Ernest Jones Trade Fallout + Green Dot Linebackers with Mike Woellert

Intro it's the IDP now welcome to the IDP show I'm your host Josh rer joined in the sock tonight Adam Markham Bobby Reynolds if the season is right around the corner that means it is time to talk linebackers everybody's favorite position and to do that we must welcome no one else but the OG green dot king his tears his Green Dot article his rankings are up on the website it is the IDP shows Mike wallard Mike how are you my friend not not too bad just enjoying a nice quiet day and uh I don't think we're going to have too much to talk about I think we're just going to be wrapping this one up pretty early so yeah uh but just uh no we're we're good uh I'm amped as uh as you saw in the slack I'm ready to go and uh yeah gonna be a a fun one tonight yeah not like we had any sort of like huge breaking news happen as soon as Mike published his week one rankings uh an hour later yeah exactly literally an hour later after we published the week one rankings a week early for our paid supporters we have the huge news break and that's where we're going to start tonight Mike we're just going to jump right into it because we got so much to talk about uh Ernest Jones babo I want to get your reaction first as the Rams fan the trade compensation almost insignificant in what it was actually worth but notable for how little the Rams got back basically a late pick swap in 2026 getting a fifth for a sixth they Ernest Jones trade send Ernest Jones to the Tennessee Titans babo how you feeling you've been Earnest Saves Christmas we were some of the original Ernest Jones stands in IDP and now he's off to Tennessee my division the AFC South what the hell is going on in Los Angeles um something stinks something stinks right something stinky I can't really put a pen in it but something's something's not right um I've thought about it all day I'm kind of okay with it you know because we talked about Cory Littleton a couple weeks ago in the same light not necessarily of Ernest Jones but maybe like the Nick Bolton types you know some of these guys when they go to different teams all of a sudden that play looks drastically different the Rams have made mistakes overpaying some guys in the past Jared G Todd Gurley more recently um you know yeah Bobby Wagner Aaron Donald could come back anytime um which that's another point to maybe talk about on another episode the little witw worth uh comment this week but yeah Ernest Jones I've traded him today in the XFL yeah you did I've cut bait um I'm ready to move on it's Omar Spates season you know honestly I I had to I had to look in the mirror I had to I had to spend a long time right in that mirror looking in the mirror this time last week my linebackers in the XFL were Bobo car Ernest Jones Nick Bolton last week Bobby traded for Frankie louu today Nick Bolton traded today Ernest Jones traded hey Mamas Don't let your babies grow up to be linebackers Bob's gonna trade him uh Mike the Fallout obviously for IDP tremendous Ernest Jones was a revelation last year for the Rams and for IDP now he lands in Tennessee suddenly a crowded linebacker room there with Kenneth Murray coming over from the other Los Angeles team the Chargers and you also have Jack Gibbons there as a very capable second linebacker so what is this gonna do for IDP now with Ernest Jones and Tennessee um not a good time right now um you know we're not we're H you know you you don't want to rush to too many conclusions because you just you don't know you don't know what people's roles are going to be we can make the assumptions based on what we read what we've seen in preseason based on interviews and based on uh press conferences but still it's a head scratcher I mean Ernest Jones was a good player uh far better than Cory Littleton um I mean in a lot of instances tackles don't equal a good player but the PFF grades have told us otherwise he had an 821 grade over overall last season 90 against the Run 80.5 tackling a 78.2 pass retrograde which I think dard Wilson G to utilize him I think a little bit more in the pass rush um he was eh in coverage but he had steady improvement from his rookie year up until last year um so now with with him to Tennessee that was one of the few spot that was one of the many spots we probably didn't want to see it because they had a pretty solid linebacker situation they were already pretty clear they brought in Kenneth mineing free agency signed him to a two-year deal Jack Gibbons started to emerge he and and Gibbons were playing very well together during training camp and even during the preseason Cedric gray was brought in to be uh you know to be that youthful uh to be the the you know the youth movement chance Campbell Tor I think Tor and ACL I know he he got injured so he is out for the year so I know maybe there was a little bit of um uh urgency maybe to add to the linebacker room but as far as t he goes I have bumped Ernest Jones's projections down way down um I mean I think I had him for well over a thousand snaps I think him I I projected him down to a little over 500 because I just don't know what his role is going to be I you know I'm sorry nobody knows and anybody claiming otherwise I think is just wrong um I don't think he's going to wear the Dot from the out at the outset for me I still think if I have Kenneth Murray I'm still okay uh I'm I'm feeling okay about it um he's been the leader of that locker room of that defense he's been a communicator he's been praised for his communication for standing you know for uh for stepping up um he's worn the Green Dot through the preseason Jack Gibbons has been that solid lb2 through the preseason I don't know why you'd want to Tinker with that less than two weeks before the season starts there's locker room implications um I mean they've this is a guy that the defense has has rallied around so um I just don't think it makes sense right now um because you know reading through um I read through something on um the athletic they're saying you know Jones could start right away but gibbons's play has really still kind of tempered that but could Jones by week five six seven make a make a mark Shore um but right now I I have I projected both Gibbons and and Jones down a little bit from what they were I still have Murray right where I had him um I just don't think his role is going to change um at least from a redraft standpoint now from 25 who knows and if Ernest Jones signs an extension or signs a long-term deal then all bets are off but yeah I think right now as it stands if I'm a Kenneth Murray owner I'm probably feeling still okay um if he comes hot out of the gate like in the first couple of weeks he's you know a good you know a good productive linebacker and you have and you're comfortable at the position I might sell high on them after a couple of weeks um if I'm a jaet gibon Zone where I'm probably not feeling good um I might even be doing the same if he can if he establishes a three down roll or a full-time rle has a good couple of weeks I still might consider selling high on him but Tennessee I could just see Jones at the outset being kind of a base linebacker in three linebacker situations maybe playing 20 to 30% of the snaps at the outset before he starts acclimating himself to the defense so that's kind of how I'm I'm viewing it reading the tea leaves from the preseason and just how they view their current players as far as the Rams go I think it's certainly opened things up um and I think it's a muddier situation in La than than Tennessee um obviously Joe andrees was so two weeks ago now it's Omar Spades so that's just how quickly things go it's hysterical um so we had Omar Spates wearing the dot we had Jake HML wearing the dot um Christian rosom getting some getting some snaps but uh I read through Jordan Rodriguez uh article who is really in tune to the to the Rams speat she had uh she had a thought on every player during for the for the 53 man cut for the 53 man roster MCV say Troy reader and Christian roseboom could be the two linebackers in base Jake hmel and Omar Spates have certainly played them M themselves into some playing time so it seems like Jake or it seems like Troy reader and Christian roseboom are set to be their base linebackers heading into week one with potentially Troy reader wearing the dot so again Christian Rose boom's IDP value takes a hit because as we know the Rams are a primarily single linebacker team so for week one it looks like it could be Troy reader and uh Christian roseb with with with reader wearing the dot so that's just what I gathered that's what I read in Jordan's article um obviously week two week three anything else can happen so yes I had the same exact reaction when I read Troy reader I'm like really we're gonna make Troy reader continually a thing right that's is this is what we're going to do so um I think the Rams could implo deploy more three safety sets I mean they have Quinton Lake they have Cam kinchin didn't play too bad and they got Cameron curl so I'm probably if I'm a Cameron curl owner I'm happy I mean cuz he's just going to Feast I think and even Quinton lake is going to get some tackles so that's kind of how I'm looking at the the ram situation I'm not going out and I'm dra and I'm not going to pick up Troy reader at all that's not what I'm suggesting but that's just kind of where things look to be with the Rams all right so we're making get you a reader a thing in the year of Our Lord 2024 Addie what the hell's going on here get you hey we've seen crazier things happen right this is up there with the craziest like a team with Super Bowl aspirations just cut their best linebacker by far essentially so two things keep in mind Ernest Jones was held out of practice for a week or more with a knee issue not too long ago so that needs to be taken into consideration as well but let me tell you what happened so what happened was behind the scenes Sneed and McVey shopped Ernest Jones yeah and what happened was is there's some beat reporters or somebody got a hold of this and then that's when the whole stuff came out about Ernest Jones is Seeking a trade wherein Ernest was like no I'm not seeking a trade but there was something going on and so the tweet that you sent out or you shared about Greg Rosenthal saying like it's a cold world the Rams basically got caught that's 100% what happened they were shopping him Omar Spates looked fine there was probably a little bit of communication like hey this third rounder is going to want a nice little bag we're not going to pay him because that's not what we do we pay Aaron Donald on the defense and every single corner or safety that's been cut from the Browns in the past three years they'll resign them oh they'll bring John Johnson the third saying Troy all those guys Johnson was there first he was with he spent he had a cup of coffee with the Browns let's be honest Troy Hill too but let's look let's look let's look at the good side the good side is Quinton lake is living living and breathing oh yeah hey hey Captain's patch did you see that today yes Quinton lake has the captain's patch I don't know man this just seems like the Rams getting a little cute it's just with that with that little of compensation I agree I just would rather have erest Jones and just let him walk like that's worth more than a late round pick swap two years from now MH like Ernest Jones to Troy reader or Christian roseboom or Jay Kel or Omar Spates is a big drop off like I don't know why you make your team worse on the eve of the season do think do this move in May if you want to make this move I mean the Rams got to look at them all off season they apparently didn't like what they saw I think they just didn't want to pay him I think they thought we've got these guys we can patch this together and I think they're going to be proven wrong I really do I think this is getting a little cute but remember like we talked on the dynasty episode when we talked about Dynasty linebackers um we didn't feel confident about Ernest Jones long term right oh I did I I'm this is shocking to me this is I thought that he would not get traded and I did not think he would get traded for this little this is a shock to me we had high but we just talked about how like we don't feel like he didn't feel like a Fred Warner right fo like just yeah not not the security that that we have with those guys you never know but in his third year he he was productive and he graded well I mean so that it's just it's just ran money I don't know he wanted ran money I think he still had some some things left to prove but ran got traded Foy got traded you know so I mean like there could be a brighter side to this for Ernest there's a chance where you know that with Tennessee There's a chance that Ernest Jones's potential levels up this year behind that defensive line um and I'm a little bit maybe opposed to Mike I think Kenneth Murray and Jack Gibbons I think Tennessee was pretty quickly the opposite to the Rams to where in training camp they were like we need help this is ter for who though because I agree I everything I saw on Kenneth Murray was High Praise out of Camp yeah and maybe this is one of these things where it's just the Titans do this Mike and I were talking a little bit before y'all got here that they just bring in they'll just take shots right Hopkins Calvin Ridley Tyler Boyd Tony par bring them all in right but when they're the price is this cheap why not why not yeah I think it just makes sense I'd say a lot of teams got to be sick though if they didn't put offers out yeah yeah I think so I I think so too I mean Murray had a 90 grade in in the preseason I mean that's not nothing to to sneeze at had a played better in coverage so I mean something could be clicking but this is just Insurance you've got two linebackers who are not necessarily locked and loaded studs and so I think it's just like why not do a late round pick swap two years from now to get a little bit of insurance you know we' makes sense from the Titan side we've been asking an opposite question as far as like who's behind Ernest you know just of like what happens if Ernest gets hurt what happens if they deploy two linebackers more regularly than they have but um anyway way yeah the answer is Omar Spates I I mean everything that I can tell from Jordan rodrig sure patchwor a couple weeks nobody cares it's going to be Omar Spates in the long term I think they had these guys in the building right like they had gotten a look at hmel reer um Rose boom but the thing that made them pull the trigger on the Ernest Jones trade was Omar Spates that's the Wild Card variable that was not present before this situation happened Troy readers has been passed around the NFL last couple of years jel has 42 snaps I think in the NFL Rose boom played a bunch last year didn't do anything yeah what is yes it's Omar Spates that's the guy I'm taking a chance on in in redraft that's I'm still probably taking Spates I'm if you're thinking from a redraft if you miss out on any of these guys I'm probably not crying over it honestly but Spates is the guy that if come week one that's the guy want to be ahead of and I don't want to be hind on we know who Troy reader is we know who Christian Rose boom is um huml you've seen I think he I think he played better than than we give him credit for he graded very well during the preseason Spates and humel were the two highest graded defensive players over the preseason so um so but the the the upside is is with Spates for sure it's a sad day though it is it's yeah it's it's and it's 12 days till the season kicks off like it's just a bizarre time to make this move yeah so what what C what caught you more off guard Ernest Jones getting traded or the Blake Martinez retirement uh they were both pretty shocking but this one I think uh this one more because Martinez fell off pretty hard J just coming off his best season and as you said Josh 12 days before real football like that's why I think the Rams are going to regret this is because you're 12 days out and you've got a poooo platter of linebackers now to try to piece this thing together Spates is a rookie udfa udfa yes is this is this is this 2024 Ian pace could be I I would advise people to keep open mind with with the Rams I think that could be a rotation they're going to be trying to figure it out I mean we could see one of these guys we laughing about pop you know uh we've seen it we've seen it often van GLE was a guy that we were laughing about at once you know yeah as well like angelon same thing you just never know dude and doesn't Rose boom have like long hair oh God is that the one does reader needs to grow out a mullet McVey did actually come out today and say like we're not bringing in a veteran so what we've got is what we've got we'll see he says it today all right yeah let's move on to the second order of business here fellas because I feel like we could talk Ernie Jay for like a good we'll talk about him on the trade show as well if you want some more Ernie talk yes if you want some more Ernie talk we'll talk more I think was there a tweet or a question about Ernest Jones being kept or traded or is that something you're going to do for the I answer that on the website and um and I was like he's not going to get moved don't worry about it and then legitimately 30 minutes later he was traded so lot of crow being eaten but there was like a Quincy Williams Quay Walker ER Jones we is that something you were going to address at in the other show and if if so then I'm sorry I brought it up no we can do it let's do it right now okay yeah it was sure they they probably want your opinion Mike little Waller trade show who was this uh who was this from remind me I I saw this but uh it was a tweet right we got a tweet asking about keeping Quincy Williams Quay Walker or Ernest Jones I think was that Daddy from our friend Nick L on X on x look at you messed up hey I hated doing that I really hate myself for saying that all right would you now keep Q Williams or uh Q Walker over Ernest Jones that took me a long time because he says q a lot of qu and he he said EJ so I was like EJ speed taking me a long time to figure that one out but yeah uh so Quincy Williams or Quay Walker now over Ernest Jones due to this trade two points per tackle I'm taking Quincy I'm keeping Quincy right now that was my suggestion too yeah and it probably should have been more of a a lot more closer even before the trade cuz Quincy Williams a freaking baller dude let me give you an update and I'm sure you haven't been in the ranks today but prior to this Ernest Jones was lb5 the IDP show.com um Quincy Williams lb4 and you had Quay Walker lb16 I have to believe you know Ernest slides quite a bit after that but is that in uh baseball or no that's just your Dynasty ranks what's the age what's the age on so right now Ernie Jay is 24.8 Quincy Williams is 28 and then Quay Walker 24.3 I would probably take crybaby Quay I'm pretty sure it's from a uh redraft perspective though redraft redraft is is Quincy yeah Quincy yes if it's if it's redraft for 2024 I mean that's yeah that's the situation I feel best about Dynasty yeah probably Quay Walker I agree it's close it'd be between Quay and me just running it till Quincy Williams done with his thing you know this is a big curve on man I don't know what to think of Ernie Jay's value now with I don't like it I don't like it I don't like I think it's a downgrade yeah I don't like the team getting rid of a guy for for that type of price uh and theny Littleton kind of stink to it where it's like um I don't think that this is a Cory Littleton situation but it's never good when a team basically dumps you for we were going to cut you compensation that's what I read that as they were going to cut Ernest Jones um so they just took a basically a late pick swap two years from now now what if this off season Ernest signs like a three-year $40 million contract then we're good but I need we're and then Murray is probably out I'd imagine right he's probably if he signs with the Titans you mean yeah right yeah if he signs an I gu anywhere it doesn't matter if he sign if he gets a a contract anywhere CU they could let him go that's the thing they're not tied to Ernest Jones a shape or form this is not one of those where you gave up a second round pick so you've got to resign this guy didn't you say that Kenneth deal was structured in a way to where it could be pretty much a one deal yeah they have I'm pretty sure they have an out in year two I it's similar to Queen's deal cuz Queen has an out I think the Steelers have an out on Queen after one year if I'm not mistaken it's in the ranks they do the talk on Cedric gray has been horrible nothing good nothing good all right boys well let's keep it rolling we got some questions here for Mike Mike you have the Green Dot and three down linebacker article up on the IDP show.com it is free to read it's already one of our top three articles of all time so go check it out folks and thank you to those who have checked it out Mike's been keeping it updated all season so we're just going to ask a few questions here with Green Dot three down linebackers in mind on the eve of the season um Mike first Green dot in Minnesota? question what's an ambiguous that situation you want to see clarified once the season starts well I mean obviously we've we've touched on the ram so I'm I'm not going to go into that we're it's we we'll see what happens in week one but yeah it's we'll we'll see dude if an edge gets in dot then then I just will I I your head will explode yeah it'll explode um I think Minnesota's still a little bit unclear um BL cash man had it uh he W in that week one preseason game that really just kind of caught all of us by surprise cuz I mean Ivan Pace went on I think it was good morning football and said yep calling the plays I'm calling the Green Dot so it wasn't like it was a source saying hey I think this is G The Source was Ivan pace so when people ask Hey where's your Source yeah it's Ivan Pace himself right here saying it don't get pissed at me Ivan Pace said it so I wonder if it was one of those things where like Brian Flores was like why did you say that and he got punished and which I don't think or I don't would I wouldn't hold that uh against him I not hold against him but that wouldn't shock me if that was a punishment so um Cashman wore it in that first uh first game Pace was on on the on the field they were doing two linebacker packages he was on the field for 13 out of the 14 snaps he came down he came off the field on a third and goal um and then for the next two games we didn't see either either Cashman or Pace play cashman's been dealing with a finger injury injuries to kman are not a surprise so that's one of the things that kind of gives me pause a little bit but I still am it's 5050 I think between pace and Cashman so I don't think we're going to see it clarified by week one so I think it's going to be one of those we situations where we will see it week one and we'll just kind of have to react from it but um that's kind of the the dot situation that is still a little up in the air for me I think everything else I think is still I think is for the most part settled um I mean I think we're all assuming Bobby Wagner is going to wear it in Washington um you know I think you know I I think we have our assumptions on who where everything else is maybe the Atlanta situation between Kaden Ellis and Nathan lman um but uh but I still think Ellis is gonna wear up so I guess if you were gonna have a one B on the the dot situation will also be Atlanta between Kaden Ellis and uh and Nathan lman all right well there you go Troy Anderson he's not good things about him that's what we're we're hearing I mean I'm holding out hope that the 10 RS freak can beat out landman land man but um we'll see that's one I want to see clarified is just what does that rotation look like um but Addie your beloved Minnesota Vikings Ivan Pace or Blake Cashman we had this discussion on the dynasty linebacker episode um it was a fascinating conversation for both Dynasty and redraft it's interesting to compare these two Minnesota linebackers who do you want for 2024 Blake Cashman Blake Cashman y yeah I'm a big fan I mean they they paid him a nice little deal um and that's just the type player he is I think I think he's I think he's ready to to lead a defense back there in Minnesota where he played college ball just good storyline but I mean everything I heard all offseason was that this dude was was great good leader uh and then good you mean good player I mean he was very very impressive last year uh for Houston PFF grades uh I think he was like in the top 10 for linebackers so yeah I think I think he's going to do really well the problem with him is just staying healthy yeah so I mean Ivan PA still has massive upside too and if he can get like a 70% snap share at least which I I I think he will that's about what he got last season with Jordan hickon there I someone pull that up actually I'd love to see like what pace actually got snapshare wise but he ended up at 60 um but in the four and in the four games that Hicks was out he was the play caller so he settled in right at around 60% okay so I figure he'll bump up a little bit in I think he's the league winning type because or the the madness winning type I think he's those that you want to like sprinkle in as like a differentiator for your lineups I don't know how much I want to mess with Ivan Pace in manage leagues but as a best ball Target we've seen what this guy can do right the problem is his ADP is just Rising I know I was talking with Mike about that and in slack um like the last three best balls he was like ADP 60 really overall and these are IDP only B ADP 60 ADP 70 uh ADP like 75 so I mean he's he's he's up there now you got to spend up to get this guy and they it's just too risky for fifth or sixth round pick is just too rich I would usually goes after him if cashman's going after him just give me the discount on the guy that will probably be the Green Dot I agree I think everybody loves Cas awesome story I I I hope uh I hope he does get you know a big role but I'd love to be wrong about Ivan pace because he's a fun player he's a fun guy to root for But but so is Blake Cashman yeah cashman's fun fun as well was he a UD udfa no I don't think so yeah the udfa I think and just like you know this guy's a pocket sized playmaker out of Cincinnati I mean this is just this is a fun situation uh but Mike Let's uh let's te you up here on this next one so we're going from ambiguous Green Dot situation to who's in line for a three down or Green Dot roll that's a bit under the radar for you right now uh I still think it's it's Terell Dodson in Seattle um that's who I think is still flying under the radar Seattle is um a pretty heavy zone defense so it's a very linebacker friendly scheme Under-the-radar 3-down LBs so the line I mean obviously you've had Bobby Wagner just totally blowing all of those numbers out of the water I mean they've averaged 160 tackles because it's been Bobby Wagner but it's a very linebacker heavy it's a very linebacker friendly scheme um the linebackers have average about a 14% tackle rate again that's with Bobby Wagner and Jordan Brooks but uh but again it's it's you know primarily a one to2 linebacker system dodson's been calling the plays throughout the preseason um and U like I said the the HW and even the the lb2 was at about 78% of the snaps but uh but yeah I mean that's that's a guy I'm targeting from from Seattle's defense is Char Dodson pretty solid year with Buffalo coming in from Matt Milano um not a full pretty close to a full-time role but still kind of a rotation but graded very well pretty solid tackle rate and um uh I I think he's going to fit in well with uh or behind that Seattle defense I mean they've got a pretty decent defensive line um with Byron Murphy with jiren Reed um they have uh Derek Hall chenon wosu unfortunately out but uh boy MAF on the edge and I think they've got a a decent defensive line in front of them that that can kind of keep them clean and get tackles yeah and I think you're also so a little bit excited about dandre Campbell as the Dre green law fill in in San Francisco as well yeah sometimes in redraft boring wins you the Championships and dandre Campbell's boring he's a good productive linebacker again in um in San Francisco again it's a uh they primarily are are a zone defense they were they were in zone about 73% of the time and again it's a a linebacker friendly scheme uh the lb2 in San Francisco plays about 90% of the snaps and the the linebackers average about a 13.6% tackle rate and if average about 130 tackles so as far as playing time snaps dandre Campbell looks to be in a full-time role as long as he's healthy weekly leagues I mean you've got you probably drafted him could draft him as an lb before lb5 and you got a weekly lb3 uh that you can kind of plug in and U and forget about it we still don't know what Dre green lost status is towards ailles at the end of in in the Super Bowl the absolute last football game of the season um and I don't care who you are that's just a I mean the Super Bowl was what I mean the February seven months ago um so we just don't know what green law status is um obviously very wide range of outcomes but I mean I would expect him to be on the pup Miss at least the first four games maybe I mean maybe even half the season so if you uh you know you just kind of plug into vandre Campbell in lb3 and lb4 and just kind of take the the eight n tackles per game that he might be averaging for him there you go babo Tyrell Dodson DeAndre Campbell sometimes like Mike said the stinky but startable linebackers are what you need in IDP uh yeah probably Dodson I'd say I think he has a better opportunity drone Baker I mean we all like his pass rushing upside but doesn't really rack up that many tackles doesn't scare me too much and dandre Campbell I don't know maybe it's his attitude his departure from Green Bay just kind of has me turned off as far as like Dre green law is probably coming back you know that kid seems like an animal I don't know at what point time frame wise in the season he might return but the winter might come back you know the winter is it's over it's it might come it's over for winter might come back but I'll say Dodson Addie yeah Dodson I'm excited about I mean Campbell is is Campbell's Dirt Cheap he's like both yeah I think he's probably lb 60 plus right now is is getting up there though he's like in the lb 40 range I'd say but yeah Campbell and it seems like people are definitely like uh really souring on Campbell too CU like he's he's there late late late now I mean like 16th 17th round and these IDP doesn't make sense later than that but I mean I I I I kind of agree with Bob like I I think that green law is going to come back Midway Point probably and then it's going to be over for for Campbell and he'll make a bunch of tweets on uh on Twitter on we're back we're back to Twitter baby bunch of zs on X well at least for the first part of the Season there's nobody else there so I think Halloween probably the earliest I think we'll see Dre green law yeah if I had to guess yeah so until then I mean what is dandre Campbell have left in the tank I'm a little bit soured on Campbell because he wrecked my madness Squad last year and like what what type of snap Shar is he getting are they giving that dude a 100% of the snaps can he play 100% of the snaps I mean we saw like Mike said with law there previously it was 90% of snaps for the lb2 I think you said right Mike yeah about 90 so well I would say in the 80s probably for Campbell um but we'll see I mean I'm guessing 70s you do I'll take 70s you taking 80s I'll take 80s you take 90 taking 90s I'm taking 90s I'm taking 50s give 50% Bob's gonna win this DeAndre Campbell all right Mike we've got our flag plant episode coming up next week look forward to that for folks were're excited for that one Mike who is your lb flag plans for 2024 I like EJ speed's um potential I mean zier Franklin is obviously the top linebacker but EJ speed is is also going to be a guy that um I think is going to take advantage of the new the role the production uh snaps and I think he's gonna be a productive linebacker so um Mike's LB flag plants for 2024 again Indiapolis two linebacker system and uh probably will not leave the field I've got him rejected at about a 90% snap share and how can you just not love Alex Singleton I mean a 20% tackle rate for a 900 snap guy I mean dude just is all over the field uh you see the hair flying around and he's always making a tackle so I mean how can you not love Alex Singleton he's not great but boy he he is just all over the field and you see you see that hair flowing yeah it gets Adam's juices going I have a feeling he might be one of your mini flag plants I could see a spicy Singleton one yeah I mean I've got him at lb5 I was going to say you have him top five for 2024 so yeah I'm I'm with it where did he go in your Madness draft were you able to he started going second round since we started talking him up this last month he's really and I've put him high up in my like he's 15th overall I think in my ranks there you go that makes sense EJ speed want to want to reference this tweet from looks like Adam IDP oh gosh what a hot Twitter follow from weeks 13 through 18 EJ speed average 18 and a half points per game big three scoring this was number one among all linebackers over that stretch I mean I'm just he was my lb uh lb3 in Madness so I'm banking beautiful lb3 yeah I am banking on a a differentiated build with Jack Campbell and EJ speed as my lb's two and three but also just High upside I'm going to take my swing I think zier is still going to be really good but I think we'll get some Boom games from EJ speed that dude is just electric so agree I I don't really want to spin the the the price that I have to on Z yeah he's just I mean he's a top 10 linebacker speed later I think I got speed in like the ninth round of Madness where linebackers were going early and often one of those guys get hurt is it saguna Luby I mean at this point um yeah probably I mean he was the fill in guy for um I think I think he filled in for zyro right yeah Z missed a game or two yeah I think we all figured it was going to be sha Leonard think that was going to play and everybody's like who what what is a saguna Luby what is this no idea that was the most random linebacker from 20123 that's for sure but Ronnie Harrison's gone now so um thank goodness we'll see we'll see um yeah uh Jason King wrote up I think it's Jason cares or something like that that's 's a safety converted yes so keep an eye on him he brought him up in like waiver wire kind of Dynasty stashes so King loves to dig deep he does he was digging way down deep where the dinosaurs live so Mike thank you as always for coming on and blessing us with some linebacker knowledge both of the three down and Green Dot variety those articles are up on the website free to read the week run rankings now available thep show.com as far as I know First Market uh for paid supporters five bucks a month 50 bucks for the year come over check it out Mike's going to get you right every single week uh Mike what is the one thing we'll get you out of here on this what is the one thing that you're most looking forward to seeing week one you're on the couch it's Sunday football is back you're feeling great what's the one thing that you're looking forward to the most week one oh I mean it's got to be the uh the Browns making the Cowboys fans cry well there you go Jordan Hicks and J K that's a fun Most excited to see in Week 1 little that's a fun little Duo miles Garrett gonna wreak havoc on uh on Dak Prescott Greg Nome is going to lock down CD lamb and I don't truly believe that but you know um but no that is i that's above all else that's what I'm looking forward to on Sunday Prime Time Tom Brady's first game Browns Cowboys let's go that is a very fun game that is a very fun game we'll be looking forward to that as well lot of good stuff coming what are youall looking forward to week one what's the what what are you most excited about I mean it's hard not to say just seeing Anthony Richardson back on a football field but I I'll I'll ID wise IDP wise I got one I'll go you okay what you got I want to see the Vikings in that edge rotation yes I want to see van gink I want to see grenard and I want to see the baby boy Dallas Turner that's what I'm most excited about okay I'll give you mine I'll keep it in the AFC South I am very excited to see Leu latu Houston Texans denil Hunter Aziz Al Shyer Christian Harris Deo Ryan's cooking things up Derek Stingley what's Petr look like I mean that's a good that's a pretty good defense I kind of want to see what's cooking Bob what about you I do want to go Addy's side pick a little personal team watch a little Braden fist Kobe Turner Jared verse Byron young what's that look like can anybody tackle the running back once they get through that hole probably not nope uh but most importantly I want to see what Brian Burns looks like in the Big Apple love it I love that babo but uh thank you Mike again for coming on hope you all enjoyed this video Green Dot three down linebackers Ernest Jones trade Fallout reaction if you like it make sure you subscribe to the channel youtube.com thep show we'll be coming at you all and it brought me no joy to say Troy reader's name in this episode so I do apologize yeah thanks for that mik get your reader get your reader get your sub the IDP show.com we will catch you all in the next video now 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