The problem with low tiers | On a Tuesday Ep. 17

all you do the intro yes sir all right on the Tuesday episode who [ __ ] knows uh what's up YouTube we are back it's been a minute we're a little behind right now uh if you guys haven't been keeping up with with mango on Twitter or the stream or myself we have been traveling a [ __ ] t for the last like month and a half I think so we have just not really had a free weekend two film either for the YouTube episode or the podcast episode dude even if there was a free weekend I think you'd be busy or if there was a free weekend for me uh or vice versa whatever like I'd be busy you'd be busy so it's about time we're overdue I think it was like I feel that was the craziest TW Monon streak ever I think in the history of my life yeah and then it was crazy cuz we were finally free and then I free and then you [ __ ] left to like Indiana I know I know for no reason dude the the most [ __ ] up thing about this is uh there was that one year where we went to like Mexico we went to like Las Vegas for some tournament with gimmer I think then we went to like Australia it was like three four weeks in a row and it was like the summer of Smash for us and we vowed to never do it again and somehow we basically did that again this year it's been it's been a battle for sure well I got stuck I I got caught doing C9 stuff MH being a melee player and then being a streamer and then being whatever the [ __ ] else I was but it was just like I was unavoidable but I thought you gonna make your s fad joke no leave s fat out of this right now making that joke in the patreon episode yeah it was F that is one of my favorite jokes of all time that joke is not cool man that was that was a different time you make it every time it was a different time bro relax but either way uh we got a lot to cover today what do we have we have uh first and foremost Mexico I don't think we've done an episode since we went to Mexico I know last episode was we were talking about tipped off tipped off yeah so we definitely definitely need to talk about smash factor which I'm excited to talk about tournament's great in the most charmant of ways where it's very very very grassroot feeling uh it's like grass is a budget that means it's shitty but it's has all the makings of a great shitty tournament it's [ __ ] tight yeah uh so I mean smash Factor couple other things to talk about but we could just go into Mexico which feels like [ __ ] forever go at this point it's been so long I mean actually it was what dude like a month and a half ago I think it's been so everything's so long ago yeah um but I mean we can jump into that real quick just just going into that tournament I think uh you went into it I'm pretty sure just saying it was going to be like a vacation chart for you I went into it wanted to kind of Win It honestly uh even even then just remembering when we first went to the airport we flew together and we hit the most frame perfect [ __ ] awful luck trip to the airport where we left like 3 hours early and somehow it took us like an hour exactly to get to the airport there was just randomly bone yeah there was randomly traffic oh my God we got to the airport we couldn't print out our passes on our phone for some reason or we couldn't like log in whatever to get so because my manager gets my uh Vincent gets my uh you know C9 buys my tickets and stuff so it's like they usually have like the confirmation or something they just send it to me and when I went to the kiosk and we had like 15 minutes cuz for uh International they cut you off like the second it's like below 55 45 you just cannot check in anymore I think yeah no it was exactly 1 hour flat yeah yeah yeah so we're good everything's good I can't get into my thing and then I'm checking it's like put your email in I put my email in I'm like so then I try my managers because I have his email yeah it works but then I'm like [ __ ] so I got a message to my manager like hey Vincent like do you have the thing and he responds like probably like two three minutes too late and he gives it back to me I [ __ ] put it in and it says it's too late and it was literally like a minute after no I remember it was so unlucky man it was [ __ ] crazy uh the worst part about it is I for whatever reason I was able to get my mobile boarding pass like before I went to your house in the morning mhm and I know you couldn't get it that's what I meant to say earlier but then I was like [ __ ] it Mango's going to print out a physical ticket I'll print out a physical ticket I tried for like the whole 10 minutes we were there with you we had like 10 minutes of spare we had some time yeah it was 10 minutes and I was trying to get a physical copy and I couldn't and like the kiosk lady she was there she was trying to help me get it we just could not figure it out and then uh eventually she made me go on a different machine and finally I got it to work and it was like literally it we pressed the button just complete and it said too late go see a [ __ ] officer or whatever go see the front desk and I looked at my clock and it was exactly 1 hour on the it it was so [ __ ] and I walked over to you and 35 seconds you finish and it said no we had to go to [ __ ] see an agent and I was like oh [ __ ] and we looked behind us and the line to get to the front was just like 40 people was like yeah it was huge I was prepared I was ready to you know the funny part about it I was like let's [ __ ] just go to the movies [ __ ] it we'll fly tomorrow I was like whatever what's the worst thing that'll happen yeah but uh you made the executive decision for me to just fly myself and then C9 would get you a later flight yeah C9 I I don't think it cost anything extra they just rebooked it m and I was was like if we get joeyy on my flight it's probably going to cost me you just go yeah thankfully this flight was only like 2 three hours later I was like I'll show up a little late yeah all is good it was nice cuz I since you you you were gone I just I had a nice breakfast I had a few mimosas I love I had so much free time I was just chilling I loved it whenever I get to the airport and I have like three hours I have great the greatest time so I was like whatever I'm like what being in Mexico next year 3 hours early like what can I really miss yeah so it was like not too bad yeah yeah yeah I was a little worried about it because uh like you said it was about 3 hours or so so I knew I was going to get to Mexico and I figured I wouldn't be able to get into the hotel because I I remembered it was under your name so I was like [ __ ] I immediately messaged Johnny Johnny was there already I was like cool can can we please hang out like I don't want to be alone and when I landed Johnny's like I'm at a pre-cal like a couple miles away I'm like dude I don't want to go a couple miles away and uh it was Doo he picked me up in the airport and doo just straight up like no we have you your own room and I was like holy [ __ ] you did have your own room yeah he like literally just told me he's just as soon as I got there he's like no no no no you have your own room you're good I was like oh [ __ ] so I just [ __ ] chilled in my hotel room I think for a couple hours so you remember my room your room was tight the El Presidente yeah that was one of those times where even though I had my own room I just wanted to go in your room my room is so nice yeah your room looked like a it was like a stereotypical [ __ ] where the secret agent sneaks in through the [ __ ] window to kill the president cuz I remember uh C9 was getting me my rooms and I was like it's only like like 500 more pesos I was like don't do that dude I was like please it's like $100 more tops P was not $100 no whatever it was it like wasn't that much yeah yeah yeah I was like you guys got to get me this room like it's so for the quality of this room for how much more it is you just have to get it for me and they got it for me dude it was dope I remember I walked in and it was like a living room bigger than my hotel room with a bathroom and like a [ __ ] dining table for dinner I had like a couch [ __ ] coffee table [ __ ] solo Doo seat which that one picture we posted where I was just [ __ ] snacked up in the little love seat chair yeah the patreon patreon thought that and then it was just like you go through like a [ __ ] doorway that had like [ __ ] sheer satin [ __ ] cloth that separated the living room from your the middle it was your giant king-sized bed twice the size of my bed giant window of the city and [ __ ] that was pre that's only when I had one win yeah that was only tipped off m is is true and then the best part about Mexico which I I don't want to [ __ ] on Mexico I love Mexico but they are my people no matter how nice something is out there it always has it problems you had one of the nicest rooms I've ever seen with the absolute worst shower door I've ever seen or or bathroom door I've ever seen it like didn't even open right so like if you open it too fast you're shattering everything it was a glass door to his bathroom and if you open it too fast it would just hit the toilet so you had to open it halfway squeeze in I don't think I could have fit into your shower the way it opened I don't know if you get in there t tough squeeze for Jon it just like collided with the [ __ ] toilet it was I I'd love Mexico cuz it's so shitty yeah and I think if you're Mexican you understand I mean this pure nicest way it's such a [ __ ] hole and I live I've grown up in a [ __ ] hole norwalk's [ __ ] shitty but it's my [ __ ] hole and if you're from a [ __ ] hole you get it you know it's something shitty it it's exactly like Norwalk yeah where it's like the nice things are [ __ ] nice but there's a lot of [ __ ] there's so many little things where you're like you just turn your blind eyed it's like so in Mexico it's so funny cuz like I [ __ ] love it I can't wait to go back but I'm like what do you mean like we missed our flight so we left uh was it pbla yeah so we left pbla it's like a from pbla to the Mexico City Airport which we were going from it was like I think even with traffic it's supposed to take like 90 minutes yeah fast forward fast forward fast forward five and a half hours we did not get to the airport on time because it rained it randomly rained and apparently when it rains in Mexico their [ __ ] infrastructure sewer [ __ ] is not equipped to deal with the rain yeah so being there while it rained was just like Mayhem yeah there was just like no one knew where to go half the city was underwat half the city's underwat you got people [ __ ] walking around like slashing through I was like what the Y remember the guy who took us yeah one of the homies I don't know his name he doesn't speak English we don't speak I don't think we got his name now he was just one of C but he was cool as [ __ ] and uh I had to pee because I was drinking in the car that's that's what you do in Mexico did you said this is when we were coming from pbl back to Mexico City so this this was like the last day when we were getting back to the airport right yeah we're going to the airport yeah yeah this is when we're leaving we're fast forward a little bit Yeah but I have to I drank like three four or five selers in the car and I'm [ __ ] I got to pee and I'm thinking whatever there's we're going and going there's no like McDonald's no like I'm like where do I pee I'm like how is there nothing yeah we're just in this crazy stretch where there's nowhere to go yeah and I tell the guy the guy just speak English I'm like I tap him I'm like I said B like b b he's like it's like 10 minutes go by I'm holding it yeah there was no stops and I'm like looking I see nothing I'm like and I was I like I and I pointed to the wall we went to a random wall it's like on the side of the highway side of the highway I get off to pee and it's crazy because it's broad daylight yeah there's civilians everywhere I just go to pee and I'm like I don't think anyone cares no one did care and then I'm thinking like you know maybe I'm doing something like I know you should not be in public yeah if it was an emergency I really had to go all of a sudden I see someone I hear I'm I'm going this way and I hear piss hitting you know when you hear piss right next to me I hear it I'm like oh Joey's got my back look it's the driver he didn't say we're just pissing right next to me I'm like that's F this guy got my back we just pee broad daylight 4 pm civilians walking around yeah we go on our way I was like I [ __ ] love Mexico think that was definitely 100% more of a patreon story but it's [ __ ] funny that you bring that up I kind of forgot about that yeah know that was uh randomly just he had my back he came to pee with me we get back in the car and just yeah and then still miss our flight we did miss our flight cuz the traffic was so bad and then dud yeah it was [ __ ] up but uh i' never seen anything like that in my life I never seen anything like that that that was It was supposed to be what hour and a half time no two hours two hour drive they were saying like 90 minutes tops yeah it was 90 minutes hours and even then we left 6 hours before departure and we still did not make it still didn't make it to our flight the worst part was we might have had a small chance of making it onto the flight but we [ __ ] couldn't get our our mobile boarding pass yeah was some [ __ ] WestJet it was like if you ever watch this WestJet you [ __ ] I don't it was Frontier and some Mexico Airline it it was Frontier for sure Frontier it oh was the frontier cab with some other they have some things it might be W I don't [ __ ] know either way it was like front tier in another airline but it went you had to go through like Hoops suit it was nut some stupid thing so we're trying to check in yeah yes that's what it was the whole time we're going there we don't really have internet cuz we're [ __ ] Mexico Americans in Mexico so we're trying and then it would take like 30 seconds to load so we're like and then I would get there I'd put my information in and then it would send me back and then it' be like information I'd be like you're just in a [ __ ] it was a loop so so crazy you would log into Frontier to get your boarding pass and the second you said mobile boarding pass it would say get mobile boarding pass at the other Airline you go into the airline you hit the link that it gave you to go to the other Airline go all your information and it's said no get your mobile Waring pass the frontier and it would Loop you in a [ __ ] infinite Circle it was [ __ ] up and because of that we couldn't get our mobile pass and we would have we would have got to the airport with like 50 minutes of spare so maybe we could have made it but again you had to prch out your [ __ ] boarding pass an hour before other once it was too late there's no point we just had to go to a raw hotel and stay another night which is [ __ ] up but before we super Sid Treck [ __ ] going into smash G or smash Factor like I said I I hella wanted to win that tournament I didn't think that I would because Big Daddy Juan was there and I figured I just probably wouldn't be able to beat him in two sets but I figured I could beat Johnny I figured I could beat shrooms uh hack was also there I figured I could beat him and I just didn't beat anybody and it was [ __ ] up because I think that's the last tournament I've had where I've gone into the tournament and I didn't really have any like outside excuses I just I just kind of got outplayed and I I'll hold it cuz like every other tournament that I've gone to since then or even even besides that like G and tipped off there's always been some outside Factor [ __ ] me Smash Factor was the one where everything was cool was chill I just I got [ __ ] I can't even say anything about it I mean I think that's the hardest part about competing like you got to be playing well and on top of playing well it's just so easy for like one outside Factor yeah to [ __ ] your whole day it's uh it's annoying how much worse it is now that we're older like when I see any of the younger kids than you kids that are like really [ __ ] good at melee complain about [ __ ] oh my God I didn't [ __ ] sleep or oh my God I forgot to eat a banana in the morning and there's a lot of them to do it like dude I remember us being 21 to [ __ ] 26 we were [ __ ] menaces and we just never ever complain about that [ __ ] we was always like well no we're going to play good we'll be all right [ __ ] young now it's like you need to [ __ ] sleep well you need to eat properly you need to make sure you're drinking water otherwise you just feel like you're dying the whole day it's [ __ ] up and the kids aren't built I think we're getting into Old Man territory oh even with the melee kids watching the way they can mindlessly play friendlies for 10 hours and dude go event and it blows my mind no it it is [ __ ] up but uh either way I [ __ ] you you didn't see well I guess there's not much to say about my set with Johnny me me and Johnny just had a classic he just kind of me and danan watched you yeah danan made one of you I guess I I don't feel like he [ __ ] me up super hard it just felt like classic Johnny Joey set where one of us played better and we got [ __ ] I literally [ __ ] him just as hard like a few weeks before that so I'm not really worried about the Johnny set the one that sucked was the hack one I don't know if you see that I so we're we're going all over the place but that was Sunday right that was definitely Sunday yeah so I woke up I was [ __ ] up cuz when I go to Mexico all I do is yeah drink eat stay up till 14 a.m. and go to bed and then wake up do my thing go back to bed yeah and you you went into Mexico saying that you were going to do that too like you you completely honest you're like look this is a vacation charm for me I'm gonna [ __ ] just have fun it's nice because they let me stream it and then I'm like I'm just hanging out I [ __ ] meet all the loving Mexican fans it's a great time yeah and then uh so I remember I woke up and I it was a wake up into immediately drink angle and then when top eight was was starting cuz I didn't want to make top eight cuz I had to play far this it's not John but if I beat far I had to play like Joey or Johnny so I was like it was I in checked out because the winner of us had to play the winner of you yeah so I was like I don't care anymore very unfortunate cuz uh it happened the previous smash Factor where if I when I played Eddie it would have been the same thing I had to play like I had to play you yeah so I'm like I do not want to come to Mexico yeah they they need to just SI you a lot lower they need to put me away from you guys and I'm down to game I think I think next time like I it just yeah I think we let them know next time you are literally going to be a mid- tier player regardless of what character you play because you're going to be just drinking and not sleeping yeah I don't like that they see M tier one they just have to CG low next time yeah you're literally just not going to be Mega with a zero no I'll win the next one oh you're gonna hear I think the Mexican people need a real win they would [ __ ] lose it if you wanted Mexico too every time I know how they feel about argentinians so I know they're not happy about Juan winning he's won like what two he's won everyone he call the pesos I I'm coming home you know what next year to defend the the Homeland I stand for this Fair who uh how did your losses go out there my L yeah I remember I only saw one you lost two I think of fox I he just he just got up you just L like the most checked out man of all time we just needed a beer I also L lagunas that was his name lagunas lagunas he's like some meat oh uh it's not langua might have been langua there's no way at this tag dude there's no way either way that's fine something something but no cuz I wanted to go to bed yeah yeah yeah so you just you just didn't give a [ __ ] at all I gave zero [ __ ] yeah yeah that's right now that I just think about it you said the Juan was talking [ __ ] cuz I got [ __ ] by Johnny MH Dan got waxed by like two players I did not even dude he got [ __ ] got [ __ ] by like a fox player who I gave the business right after and I don't even know who else he lost to besides that get D the podcast we one we can get danan we should eventually for sure maybe after the next smash backer we get one next year yeah we get him as a GU out from Mexico but either way before I forget damn that hack say hurt bro I was like yeah I I didn't see it yeah cuz I I passed out I woke up I think it was hack Johnny in losers finals yeah cuz I had just lost the Hax I woke up and I was like cuz I woke up you ever go to bed [ __ ] up at like 300 p.m. or whatever yeah you don't know where you're at you wake up you know the ceman SpongeBob I just like check your phone I'm like [ __ ] what like what what happened in the worldest room of all time yeah I checked my my tablet and it's uh Johnny hacks I was like please God I hope Jo in Grand finals fourth place dude how was close I was just thinking like please God I just wanted to check no yeah I had so much f it it was if you go back and watch that set it was funny because it was like obviously foxy do are always kind of sloppy but I was playing well I I felt like I was playing confident I was playing fast I was keeping up and like normally like ha has always been one of those players where like if you're a little sloppy he just kind of shits on you cuz he's so fast but I was playing good like I was playing fast and I was confident and it was just back and forth back and forth felt like a dope Fox Ito maybe I'm remember it wrong and it just got to game five and I died three times in like 27 seconds it was the saddest thing of all time for a game five it's very Joey esque it's very Joey but that's how it went down then I didn't even want to watch Johnny play I was like [ __ ] Johnny because he'd be me winners so I went upstairs into the VIP room and had like best I think they ordered it for you because you said you wanted food you wanted soup and sea soup so if you guys ever wonder I yeah soup is like my favorite type of food [ __ ] love soup they got you the best like [ __ ] it was like cood ciche I think but it was just so [ __ ] bomb dude it was like drunk past down the room yeah I didn't make it there was like a bunch of random Seafood [ __ ] and one cicha soup and I was like I'm taking that I took my I figured it was yours I was like [ __ ] it I'm going to eat it cuz I knew you wouldn't eat it I knew you were gone sleeping it was amazing and again Mexico matter how dope it is there's always something kind of shitty about it didn't give any [ __ ] TS so I had to eat a muscle uh yeah no like a oyster I ate an oyster and I used the oyster shell as a spoon to eat the [ __ ] spea soup I was like only in Mexico dude there people though you know I love do CU everyone you just do what you got to do yeah you make it you make it work out there but it was tight I mean smash factor for whatever [ __ ] reason seems like it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and like I don't say it for whatever [ __ ] reason because it's like there's no reason it should get bigger it's just like more so surprising because I think you know we're always on the melee side we're always playing melee we're just hanging out with the melee uh Community chilling just doing whatever we're doing and we're not really paying as much attention to like the smash ultimate side the fgc side and I think yeah and they love fgc [ __ ] out there too so like smash Factor just seems like it's bumping and growing and growing and growing and the melee Community out there is just holding it down they're doing what they're doing yeah and I think that's why I like it out there because it's like they're just die hard melee fans out there just Grassroots yeah it's Grassroots as [ __ ] It Feels So Dope uh but you know smash Factor just keeps getting bigger and bigger because of ultimate and because of the fgc and [ __ ] and it's pretty tight to see because I've been going to the smash factor for a couple years now and it's gotten a lot bigger bro like the first venue they had was like half the [ __ ] size dude where the venue is like right there by the old hotels it's like literally in the middle of Mexico City I don't know if it's middle but it feels there's a bunch of [ __ ] all around like you can go outside and there's [ __ ] people selling you CH yeah CH you got a very mexic experience and it's tight yeah it's like it's cool as [ __ ] cuz you just feel Once you walk out you feel like you're in Mexico yeah and it's like 100% it's tight like [ __ ] like yeah the mean you know Spanish Factory it's [ __ ] fire tournament I I think it's on like the the must attend list for me now where it's like before I was always big house shine Genesis no matter what were my big three tournaments that I always wanted to go to never want to miss now it's like honestly Genesis Master Factory are like my top two because we've lost shine we've lost pick house sadly I don't know if either will be back hopefully they are but for now I think J smash factor is must of tense for me like hands down tipped off is actually going up there too tipped off has been [ __ ] fire yeah right and yeah I think smash back is dope because well I go for fun I to me it's just vacation yeah I mean that's a good way to look at it but either way even just for the tournament scene like if you're a [ __ ] smash player smash Pro like the community out there is so happy to just have pros and [ __ ] that like it feels like a really dope experience just to go and meet all the fans out there and [ __ ] so so I think it's like like I said it's a must 10 for me now oh you know you know Juan hbox I'm aware of him I know him he uh wants to lose weight yeah because he's fat he's fatter than you uh no he has all means to be healthier and he chooses not to this is true if I had if he had his money half his resources his everything that's why he's pathetic you're not you're we're getting you there but the point of that is you guys know he made the the little bit with me yeah and it's because I remember we were [ __ ] I was oh it all spawned there I don't think people know that and I was [ __ ] I was just blackout drunk I've actually been on a I'm not going to say a blackout drunk KCK but I've been on a very I think cuz I'm down 50 lbs I keep drinking like I used to and it keeps hitting me harder so I keep getting really [ __ ] up when I don't intend to CU I'm just like I'm good because it happened at smashcon it happened at smash Factor it happened even that Monday when we'll say that as patreon when I spent way too much money yeah but I think I keep getting way too drunk because like yeah I'm accounting for the 50 pounds but it's not there which is kind of nice because i' I've been for a while I couldn't get like sloppy drunk yeah so now it's nice I can I a little [ __ ] even right now I'm Buzz I had like six seven something I was streaming right now I'm like that is a lot of celes with the average person yeah yeah exactly I'm good so it's like it feels nice to I honestly think it's a mix of that you lost the weight so you're smaller but it's also you just on average don't drink as much like weekly like usually Fridays you would get [ __ ] up I don't really feel like you get that [ __ ] up on Fridays anymore I take a break yeah even I wasn't get stupid even on the weekends I feel like you're just your overall like limit to how much you would kind of push before being wasted has just gone down a lot you just kind of drink less than than average yeah so I think when I actually party I think I can do I did I feel like I could just take 20 shots and be good yeah no your your tolerance has actually just gone down on top of you losing weight yeah yeah so the whole thing is me and Juan were in the club in Mexico we uhuh getting money yeah it was a great time everyone's having fun and I remember I told him I was having a heart to heart so when I'm drunk as [ __ ] you get two mangoes I feel like you get I'm just not going to care what you say yeah I'm just a drunk idiot or you get me just the realest version of me I can be I ra tell him I was like ju in the nicest way possible you're [ __ ] fat like I that's not the nicest way possible no no I was like bro I'm like you're getting big I'm like I used to be big I need you to lose weight and I was like trust me you will feel better yeah and I remember I was going through all the steps I was like and he was like no I know I I'm like you lose like a few pounds bro 20 30 pounds you're going to feel so much better and then we just me and Juan had the [ __ ] homiest moment of all time the Bromance we did we were just like bro like lose some weight trust me you're going to play better you're going to feel better blah blah blah and then he did the thing I was like the whole the BET thing now good like and do you even know the official rules of that I just know if he continues to be a fat [ __ ] I get $10,000 which surely there's no way he he should just do it there's no way he just doesn't unless he just gets lazy about it if he can't lose 20 PBS with $110,000 online he's a lost cause that is true if I cannot imagine if you had to lose 20 pounds in three months or lose $10,000 yeah yeah you're hling your ass I would I'd probably lose 40 just because I'd be so scared yes like there's no reason you should not be able to do it we should just uh next time we set it up where just get me in there just be like look you versus Joey two months who ever loses more weight boom that's the Challen insert yeah whatever we just we just somehow figure way to make content out of that that'd be better but all right smash Factor again fun ass tournament the bet for Juan losing weight happened I I didn't think it was fun there yeah yeah I got waxed by Johnny and hack which I'm very slightly actually I'm not that sad about it I waxed by Laguna you got waxed by langua or lagunes happens uh danan lost to who knows but the fun ass [ __ ] tournament shout outs to [ __ ] love Mex smash Factor homies [ __ ] City season yeah rul all the homies uh after that we had like a [ __ ] week break and you had to go to Saudi for a week which was crazy uh go Saudi do some C9 [ __ ] yeah shout outs to my Brown Brothers The Brown Brothers yeah where you [ __ ] also shaved your beard out there that was crazy that's pre mustache mango I went through a lot of transformations in a while but this month has been wild bro you got clean cut you had the [ __ ] whatever the outfit's called I don't know what it's actually called like the robe type thing you had Vincent what's it called [ __ ] I don't want to say it wrong I don't want to offend my brothers try to say it TH or do we'll put it in the description uh after that I went out to a pretty small little regional tournament in Indiana called we need some space sadly enough I was I was pretty hyped about it because it was supposed to be me and like five other top 40 50 players level and all them either like dropped out or got [ __ ] by flights so it was like literally just me and salt I think zamu was supposed to be there AKO was supposed to be there bats couple other players I won't say who's kind of a wacky not a better word I can use for it but they're they're kind of being whack some of them just didn't want to go because they didn't want to travel back to back weekends going into smash conon cuz smashcon was a week after I that's fair I guess yeah I so I will take this time to say mhm if you can't do back to back in the prime of your age then I don't know what you're doing yeah I I think there's a couple things I would want to say about it but it is what it is like the way I looked at it the one of the TOs told me that that a couple players didn't want to go because they didn't want to do back toback weekends and I was like bro that's really funny because I wasn't going to do smashcon because I was like I didn't know you would help me with the flight you you know you always do but I was like I always kind of have like the humble I don't know if you will so I was like you know what I don't need to do back toback weekends either because it would have been like three weekends in a row for me because I did wi's house for his birthday then I went to Indiana then it would have been smashcon so it would been three weekends for me so like okay I don't need to do three I could do two which is wogies into Indiana but I don't need to do three so you know what I'll skip smash gon because I promised that I was going to this Indiana tournament months ago man of my word I'm gonna go to this [ __ ] but then I ended up going to smash G anyways but either way I went out there that was kind of a [ __ ] business trip battle bro I think I flew out Friday afternoon got there Friday night at like 10 p.m. went to bed woke up went to the tournament venue at like 11: a.m. was there until like 910 p.m. until I did Grand finals it's a [ __ ] marathon of a day flew out first thing in the morning at 6:00 a.m. pure business trip all be a second [ __ ] place Salt you got cooked dude I did it sucks too everyone gets cooked it's okay I know I hate it cuz uh it felt like like you know how melee is and charm is where it's always like if you just feel like you played 5% better everything's [ __ ] different and it's annoying because that's how that whole tournament felt or like winners finals Grand finals and it's like annoying cuz it's like obviously salt could have played 4% better 10% better I'm just positive I could have played like 50% better I would have cooked her ass but never know for now I got to hold it and I cannot wait to split her again I told her that too but uh that tournament was pretty [ __ ] cool too dude I I feel like we've kind of focused on going to so many like super majors and [ __ ] only that I kind of forgot what it was like to go to just like a little Regional siiz Tournament little baby one yeah it was it was dope you know you're kind of just in this little small venue not well I feel like Superman you're just so [ __ ] nerve-wracking they are yeah it's like a complet like a little one you're just like I'm just here the game yeah that's what it felt like that's what it felt like it was cool too cuz you know me and salt cleaned up teams we kind of just teamed for the first time had a good time I I was trying my ass off to work on my focus and work on like my gameplay for the entirety of the tournament played [ __ ] 10 out of 10 the entire day and then nine hours later I had to play finals and I was just gassed but those nine hours though I was [ __ ] gaming so it's a cool Cool vibe shout outs to the homies out there definitely would love to go back next year to we need some space um gotta see drein love drain bro he got kind of fast he's kind of [ __ ] FAS I'm not even [ __ ] kidding I was watching D play I was like damn 20 years later he's this guy's kind of I was watching I was like this guy's G fast as [ __ ] I was kind of scared if I had to play him a tournament I'm not even lying a cookie he might have dude also do you remember D's old combo video [ __ ] uh all his brother does is down smash M dude there was a point in teams where he just down smash it was Grand finals I think or winers finals yes salt looked me in the eyes she like can I go Fox I like yeah go for I go [ __ ] we did double Fox there was this point where Jeff I think I I probably remember the scenario wrong but I'm just going to give you like a hypothetical jein like back threw me at like zero I did double jump jump in forward be he down smashed fell down up beat up he down smashed again salt tried to [ __ ] hit him he spot DOD down Smasher off salt forb down smashed again it was like seven down Smash in a row and he was just Edge guarding both of us and the [ __ ] song was playing in my head the [ __ ] just only like 88 of you are going to get that ref no one's going to remember that com video under 100 people will get that that a super OG refence he down smashing the [ __ ] out of us it was crazy I love in the com it's just down down dude that [ __ ] isut that's a s and it's a [ __ ] Banger song too so good but yeah that that was a a very [ __ ] business tournament like I said I haven't had one of those in a while but I mean just to to cut it short it was just you know God play St uh I talked to Gio about it right after so I was I was kind of upset that I lost the way I did and Gio just kind of made fun of me and said that I made the match as hard as possible cuz I just didn't her sounds all right he's like all you did was hold Center in back air if you just comboed her like two times you probably just win that for free and I was like I don't like hearing that but I guess [ __ ] you're right I'll use my combo moves next time sometimes the answer is just combo dude it's such a funny like sentence I was like Gio please tell me what I did wrong like bro you just didn't combo one time he's like you just back aired and nared damn I I really just 2014 it and I felt like I could have won I was like that's insane so I'm excited to play her again that's that's all I can say for now that was before that was the week before smash where are we coming to smashcon now we got yeah week going to smashcon I got home for two days you went out to Virginia right I think for a couple days prior yeah are we all caught up is that it yeah I mean this this is it like we technically we're skipping outout on what Saudi Arabia we're skipping out on on wogies but then we just focused on smashcon I said that yeah yeah no so smashcon was I was okay me and Zayn had a whole week planned dude yeah and he if you guys don't know for whatever reason he got covid and double ear infection and he was dying for whatever reason cuz for whatever reason he went on vacation right before smash gon MH and we were going to go Tuesday and we had dude me and zann had a poster board of content so we were going to do melee on my channel during the day just sweat four hours of melee and then we're going to do like ultimate on his stream we're gonna [ __ ] spin his little wheel we we actually were going to do a [ __ ] you know that kais not Kevin Hart and sleepover stream yeah we were gonna do that Sunday night you guys are just go crazy you were invited by the way I would have Lov that but it didn't matter we're gonna invite you so we were all going to get [ __ ] up we had so many plans M and z and I woke up up and I think usually the first thing I do when I wake up is I I check my sleep score got make sure I'm sleeping well and then I I'll check Discord I'll see what's happening and then I checked Twitter and the first thing I saw when I checked Twitter was Zay saying like he's going to drop out I was just like that was a tragedy I was like I'm still waking up I was like [ __ ] this [ __ ] I'm like so I had to change my flight so I talked to my manager and I saw I was like just seems annoying if I change and I was like yeah [ __ ] it so then I ended up leaving that Tuesday you left on Tuesday I did that's [ __ ] crazy how many 45 45 okay so uh I was like thankfully I got a bunch of sub homies in that area I was like [ __ ] it I was like shout out to say I was like shout outs to the Koreans dude the I said these godamn Koreans these godamn Koreans are [ __ ] I don't know how many more soou beer shots [ __ ] I can take we were spending like 400 bucks a night 500 it's not important but I'm going into that in the patreon episode we Sav that but so I'm like I'm like no it's fine like ah [ __ ] it CU I think right now cuz I've been traveling so much I'm like I'm okay with missing stream time cuz I'm like and I'm just yeah I'm in a normally I'd be like no no no but I like Yeah Tuesday I come I come hang out M blah blah blah we watch Deadpool I dve the next the first you know what I the whole patreon episode we're talking about Deadpool we actually could I I we go to deadpol we were talking about Deadpool the whole time and we're playing the [ __ ] the whole time when you call anyways that's the picture say but so I was like yeah [ __ ] it and you know the Koreans even though I hate them they took care of me it was a good time but I was supposed to be with Zane so I didn't get to practice but I want to so I was a very like oh yeah I don't know why I forgot about that you you were your whole idea was to practice in my head I was like you just went out there to hang out because that's what you no I went to play with Zane I want to get [ __ ] beat into shape and I was like cuz you got remember I was traveling the month before yeah I had no reason to win smashcon Mexico and the Saudi into not caring about anything yeah yeah so I like had to loog back in and smash conom might be the most that was the most my talent has carried that was not hard work because I I did not play I was just like yeah yeah I don't like when Talent carries I like when my hard work carries that's fair smash was a was 100% talent and I I still I still don't feel good about it that's a whole conversation in itself yeah it's like my uh evil 2014 trophy I play like [ __ ] evil 2014 I could I don't remember yeah not remember so it's just like to me it's like one day you win an EVO and it just doesn't feel good I have one an EVO I want an EVO Side Event did you cook oh I cooked so melee I think it was like Evo 2008 or yeah I think it was like 2008 Side Event melee first place Farm the [ __ ] out of this like Dominican Republic player and Broly leges rest in peace yeah rest in peace Brother think I he was actually pretty [ __ ] good at melee too surprisingly he could yeah he [ __ ] sigar player but go on carry on no I I think smash conon I think I was just mad the whole time I realized I've entered I've entered my old man of melee phase cuz I think people were asking me when I played June in uh it winners finals winners it [ __ ] it was winners finals that's [ __ ] up I was just annoyed and even when I beat him I did a little eyebrow thing cuz I was just annoyed yeah like this is [ __ ] dumb cuz June's good yeah he shouldn't be winter f with me as [ __ ] Donkey Kong yeah so those eyebrows were those were uh that was to Josh man rest in peace everyone else who was like rest in peace yeah you guys are like to me it's like I should not be playing Don Kong right here yeah see the thing is I do not care how good this Don Kong is yeah the thing is get the [ __ ] out of my face people don't understand the idea of when something like that happens you're in a no win situation if you you're a [ __ ] joke if you beat this DK it's like well duh you're supposed to [ __ ] beat the DK like like I felt nothing I felt nothing winning yeah so this is like the the mentality Gap because Josh the same thing happened to Josh if Josh loses to this DK he's a [ __ ] joke if Josh beat June no one [ __ ] cares not one person [ __ ] cares that he beat June yeah that's what I think I won I was like single person cares even going up I was like I see the thing is I the problem is I think for all my future melee competitors I I want you to take two guesses who just messaged me you no Zan no it's I wouldn't be laughing like this the top I'm moving on yeah goad go moving on moving on what the five Gods messag me holy [ __ ] I was uh I remember just thinking like it just like beating and this is where I think like if you're a casual player and you love you think Don Kong is hyped MH I will not take that away from you yeah you love your shitty character but just know on the other side everyone hates it because if you beat said shitty character nobody cares and if you lose you get [ __ ] postered so annoying highlighted boom boom boom boom that's why I don't like the shitty characters because to me competing is we're all on the same page we all put our [ __ ] chips in and if I lose then I have to take it you take my money and if blah blah blah but if you play the [ __ ] character you only put one chip in I have all my chips in it is [ __ ] crazy and I need to win or I'm a joke so like the load your people were like no I'm like you don't get it you know what it's like to be in that situation that's why when I won I was like that that's why it's funny even if win no one cares if you win nobody cares that I beat June you care that's what I'm saying no [ __ ] I don't care I might have cared if Josh man did it come on Josh man Josh is pathetic and I hope you see one day no Josh come on I'm sorry come on bro no no don't say don't say that it and like again this is one of those things where I'm going to double down and just say you have to be a top player to understand this like I'm not [ __ ] on June as a player is just that because June plays this is a mentality thing that like players have to go through how people feel yeah and like I don't think you understand it until you're at a point in your career or your your your position on on whatever level you think you are as a player or the rankings or whatever you have to deal with this [ __ ] where it's like [ __ ] if I lose this DK I [ __ ] suck but if I beat this DK there's no merit to beating them yeah you don't feel good but except I've been saying now June's wi is hot M and now I think people want to beat him this is true this is true it happened tosa where nobody cared but now if you beat ala it's a big deal you get credit even if you play Fox it's a bad match up it's like bro you still beat off yeah so now the next June tournament it's I'm excited there'll be some pressure yeah because people want to beat June now see the thing that's annoying too though is like when you look at amsa as a player amsa is a Die Hard competitor June looks more like he kind of casual doesn't give a [ __ ] so I feel like his thing yeah which more makes me even more mad I'm I'm on your boat I hate when players do that [ __ ] but it's like [ __ ] what are we supposed to do force them to care it's like yeah you can't do anything yeah we we got to just hold it thanks a lot Josh these guys are just badass they just don't care and they're [ __ ] Godlike Josh man [ __ ] man [ __ ] there's come back to Australia Josh [ __ ] he might have won tonight [ __ ] I hope he won Davies I hope he didn't win Davies that's unfortunate but I believe he won it he won it but it's very funny going into the smash con your whole mentality was like I'm [ __ ] zay's not here to practice with me I'm probably G to lose and you just kind of cleaned up house I [ __ ] up everybody yeah my mentality was I had just lost assault the weekend before so I was so excited for Redemption and I got to the tournament and I don't know what the [ __ ] happened I've never crumbled so hard of my life I [ __ ] played spark and I had a mentality break mid and I just ran at him nonstop and he [ __ ] cooked me which I'll probably need to talk to you about spark at some point because I think Salt's the the dagger in my life right now because we we we've gone through this where it's like if you want to play melee nothing should annoy you nothing should be whack nothing should be aggravating or frustrating and I think I've gotten decently good at that at just ignoring all the [ __ ] about melee where I just only focus on the W only focus on the competitive aspect of it spark brings out the [ __ ] worst of moment I don't know how that guy Cooks me so hard mentally I'm G want to talk to you when you're more sober we're going to figure this out I want to beat spark eventually turn this franchise around I want to beat spark eventually goddamn it I know I can do it wait let's so if you guys don't know I won smashcon I I'm gonna hard assume they know they might not know there's at least two on a Tuesday fans sub to our we got like four or five thousand yeah they like oh [ __ ] they come Dam you want smashcon no shot see this is why I I think I really feel botar hatte smashcon I hate it because I beat a DK and I beat Cody does anyone care that I beat Cody anymore okay that that's so to me smashcon is so Hollow and empty you need to stop thinking about Cody like that CU I still wax him next time it don't matter me but I'm just saying when I look back on my smashcon win nobody cares I've been a DK and Cody which I'd love that I'm able to end the DK run when no one else could and I got to beat the number one player in the world and nobody cares that's the life I live up here so ain't nobody give a [ __ ] do you do you think there that has anything to do with how close everyone is because like when back in the day when it was like you and Armada were like number one number two and [ __ ] it was like very very very clear that you guys were the people to beat like when you were the guy to beat you were the guy to beat when arm was the guy to beat arm was the guy to beat it feels like this year started and it was just like there's three to four guys to beat there's no like clear clear gu as ahead because Cody was supposed to be the guy but then Zayn started cooking then like Cody and Zay are going back and forth then you jump in the mix now there's like three of you I feel like like if it was just Cody [ __ ] everyone up and then but you [ __ ] up Cody that might be a well I guess he is kind of doing that that's exactly with that yeah I don't know it's it's weird then I don't know why it feels so so [ __ ] I guess cuz you just make it look so [ __ ] easy dude yeah nobody cares I destroy Cody nobody cares to be fair I I might have felt like that when Cody went on that streak against Zayn where it was just like every time he beat Zayn I was like yep another danavis yeah you just become numb to it sense you become numb to it you don't realize that they're beating such a good player you're just like yeah it it is weird to think about where like your run was like you be Crudo Magi June Cody right I think it's about it pretty [ __ ] run yeah okay relax first of all some good players but okay Ron it's like on paper to win a Super major that's that's kind of expected it was a super major yeah I think if zann was there then it would be a super major dude it was still 900 players and like I still think most to the top 50 was there no don't get me wrong I think I think should be considered one it's a high up major M for sure yeah yeah either way it's like the run that you had isn't that great of a run I think if your first seed that's kind of what is more expected except you're robbed of beating another top seed because of [ __ ] Zayn not entering yeah so that's the big big problem with it but you still did technically unpaper beat the number one player which is twice by all means that should mean a [ __ ] lot but we're getting to this weird spot where just expected to be Cody yet I I just me beating Cody means nothing to anybody he means something to me should mean something to me man I mean something to Cody at the very least dude uh you know the the best part about your run like I don't know how how the fans took it or how the fans thought about it or how like the Discord talk about it or your chat when you streamed about it after but I watched it with the boys I watched it with the Korean Brothers with Gio squigs and we were just like watching from the VIP just watching the big screen and you know the crowd's going crazy they want you to win and [ __ ] and I was just standing there sweating and pissed because you were playing so bad in winners playing awful yeah you were playing awful and you were doing the thing where you like think that you need to play better or you don't deserve the wins you try to force yourself to scrap more so you can warm up but Cody's really good at scrapping so I was very scared that he was going to take advantage and beat you and just like cook you but he also just kind of played like [ __ ] so it just balanced out and you were just kind of a little more smart in the end so I was just dumor as [ __ ] in your winter sub and I remember specifically thinking I was like [ __ ] this is kind of [ __ ] up because by all means June could and should beat Cody how he played against you Cody played like [ __ ] versus you I was like damn there's a world where Cody could just [ __ ] lose the June I that's why I think the June fans were happy cuz Bas off that set they were like no there was a world bro I it was [ __ ] up they like Jun might cook one of these [ __ ] jabronies yeah you were not playing well and you were gassed out I don't you like I think you had problem sleeping and [ __ ] so like I slept really bad yeah you didn't even want to warm up with me you you like no I'm way too tired bro like if I warm up with you I'm going to just [ __ ] gas out like I I need to just save my energy for so tired finals yeah so I was like dude if June beats Cody gets mad momentum gets mad hype you feel like [ __ ] or you just start dying there's a world he just beats you two in gr I I was scared as [ __ ] I was a little scared I've watched Deadpool six times now five and a half five and a and no Multiverse was I losing that set okay I might lose the future one maybe in quarters but the one to send the Don Kong to GRS no yeah no no no I'm saying if June made it to GRS I thought there was a world you could lose in GRS specifically if you were just dead tired and he had like momentum beting Cody I'm down there's a world DK wins yeah it's not on my watch okay at least then I stopped it then maybe it happen in two years I don't want this to get clipped against me in the future yeah yeah this this has the but in that moment it was I was like dope I remember my whole mentality going into it was uh you just got to play okay and you win yeah and I remember I [ __ ] him up game one I was like and then I lost FD I was like I don't care the game three was kind of close I was like it it never I was just like you will win when you want to yeah that was my mentality I like if it gets down to a clutch moment cuz see I think people get scared like if I'm against the Donkey Kong even on FD last stock I'm not scared because I know I can only make good decisions yeah and I will only get [ __ ] if I'm an idiot so in that moment I'm like I just I'll just be smart doesn't really have any tools to he's not opening me up [ __ ] open people up yeah I I got you got to open me up based on yeah so was like that that's what makes Marth scary compared to DK because you could argue they have like a similar scariness for for the average Fox player where it's like you don't want to grab [ __ ] Dash attack you and I'm like yeah Mark can Dash attack you can wave Dash down you can wave Dash [ __ ] for smash he can do a lot of like little mini bursts that DK can't do DK has to like have you come to him or you are so scared that you back yourself into the corner and then all of a sudden DK is kind of scary but it's really funny uh because because like going into as a spectator right going into the whole Cody versus June and losers finals I remember being a little scared because I was just like it was just a scary tournament for me in general I was scared for you was scared for Cody but I was like anxiety yeah I did it was the [ __ ] Zin well talk about the zin the podcast episode but I remember thinking like [ __ ] Cody lost like at that [ __ ] gol tournament to to Bing I think it was I was like [ __ ] I don't know what's gonna happen Cody was playing like [ __ ] versus mango and Gio out of nowhere just like [ __ ] appeared like like na'vi from [ __ ] Legend of Zelda little fery came over to my ear he's like nah Cody's got this bro you have Z jump all you do is sh up up there you just Spam that [ __ ] and you will [ __ ] cook DK and I was like bro okay sure whatever like I I didn't know what the [ __ ] Joe was talking about [ __ ] you not I watched Cody just randomly shop up air into 80% like four times and that's it and I was like God damn and then also I played uh Quang at the mango in progress the month before and after I beat him I walked up to you and salami talking and I kind of brought up I was like D I was a little scared but it kind of worked out and you went into this like weird Sensei mango speech and you were like dude I don't [ __ ] get it all you fox players are [ __ ] scared of DK just [ __ ] fight him what's he going to do Shield grab you just space it and I was like damn relax man I won that's that you were like yeah like he's like all the fox fers are scared of DK all you guys do is [ __ ] laser Camp him run away from him and eventually he's going to clip you and lead to a grab just fight him it's cuz you guys have never played as Donkey Kong I've played as DK yeah when you just run at me I'm just like I got to either rip a shield grab or I got to rip a shitty up be yeah that's it and I don't think anyone thinks of the idea of like when you're running away from DK how are you damaging them one laser at a time two lasers at a time [ __ ] L to 180 like these lasers are nothing it's not like lasering puff yeah when I laser puff I hit eight I'm like that's a that's one back air MH like [ __ ] you're closer to depth DK DK can take 30 lasers and still live a shine up smash at like one something that is true oh really big thing too about DK is dude no one can edgegard DK right now it's really really [ __ ] up because it's like not like it's hard to Edgar DK it's just DK has like two Mix-Ups and I don't think anyone really understands them this time's coming yeah and it was funny because because Gio literally yelled at me about how to edar DK when I played Quang that month before it was like I didn't really understand neutral I've never thought about neutral versus ZK so I was terrified of neutral I think the only reason I won that set was because Gio told me how to Ard DK straight up and when you watched Cody do it he he was not afraid of DK he fought him straight up up aired like a [ __ ] and he edgu guard the [ __ ] out of him it and he just didn't run away from him he didn't Camp him he didn't full hop against him really he just like fought him straight up and it was it was [ __ ] made him look so bad yeah he he literally just every time he went for an open like an opening he just got it he just cooked him straight up I loved it yeah and then I was peeking it out you know the worst thing about it is that he [ __ ] him so hard he seemed like he made made June nervous June is dropping some of the easiest [ __ ] that DK has which is [ __ ] cuz it's supposed to be free it's supposed to be the freest [ __ ] combo in video game history welcome to the big leagues playing the big boys I loved it I love watching I was soon I was like yeah welome [ __ ] it's so funny but yeah yeah either way [ __ ] June had a [ __ ] run of a lifetime which is really funny because you say that but then when you look at the bracket it was like what did you do like [ __ ] ax joshman something like that right which is like pretty [ __ ] up asking to Josh man for third place at smashcon is [ __ ] crazy but [ __ ] I lost a [ __ ] essentially no it's funny because June beating ax and Josh man is more impressive than me beating Cody and June he had a better run than you did he had a better run than me but you won the J that is [ __ ] true welcome to life that's [ __ ] funny end this [ __ ] episode yeah I mean [ __ ] I have nothing to say about smashcon I tell I'm very Hollow about it yeah yeah yeah I beat Cody nobody cares I beat Don Kong nobody cares yeah I beat the best part of my run is beating Magi just because you like beating Magi because she beat me at Genesis did she like eight years ago okay okay why the [ __ ] would I remember that I don't remember everyone remembers when mag beat mango in Genesis two out of three I'll tell you what right now I don't I love that about you so I so D I die I love Bey Magi that was fair that was fair she becomes my new Cody I need her to be my new Cody you just need her to get better so that way you can I just Farm her enjoy farming her great you just Cody doesn't do it for you anymore yeah Cody just Cody just don't do it for you anymore not getting this dick hard like he used to that's an hour an hour get us [ __ ] out let's do here's what we're gonna do we're going to order food and we're going to film the patreon episode yes sir we're going home we're going to bed I I got a tattoo tomorrow I got to finish my two tacos Jack Bo we you want Jack no I don't want Jacks good no it's good sushi it is 11:30 at night I don't know if we can get anything that's quality is there any quality food around let see either way we'll call the episode here uh our bat again for The Late episode we were traveling nonstop smashcon we were there we were actually in Mexico for about a week which we'll talk a little bit more about on the patreon episode right after that it was [ __ ] Saudi Arabia manga was there for a week right after that I went to wiie Boogie house one of the oldest most gangster mods in the chat for twitch.tv/ mango with the zero went out there for the weekend for his birthday we weekend after that was [ __ ] Indiana for me weekend after that was [ __ ] smashcon we've just been traveling traveling traveling it's been [ __ ] insane manga was gone at smashcon for like a week so we just have not had time to film but we should be back on the normal schedule filming once a month uh you know bada bing bada boom boys we will be back on the grind I travel again Wednesday this is true but now you got you know it's it's an excuse to to give us some content because I'm not going to it so I'm going to restream egg dog true and rof yeah exactly you get to go hopefully win I get to watch you win I'll call you again after you win and then yeah cheers boys we'll [ __ ] see you on the patreon episode if not you guys should subscribe to the patreon we do a little bit of a behind the scenes content we do more personal homy [ __ ] what we did outside of the tournament talk more about like [ __ ] you know drinking at the After parties or [ __ ] just just more homey stories so make sure you subscribe to that peace [Music]