Caller Questions the Florida State Culture and Brand

what um I didn't get your take on the the game but man what a great game earlier today um congrats to Tech which is hard for me to say being a Georgia Alum but um what was your take on the on that game well here's my take and I don't want to be too repetitive but I'm going to go back to my take on Wednesday or Thursday when I posted my preview because if if I have this type of not that I picked Georgia Tech to win I came very close to picking the upset but I didn't but I I grabbed the points for sure I said take the points we gave the one freebie pick for everyone today and you should have taken it everyone I said take Georgia Tech and the points but um I pretty much nailed this game and again if if I could carry this for the next 250 college football games boy I'm going to make a lot of people Rich uh because I said number one DJ is playing his first game at Florida State and the Florida State wide receiver core is completely vacated and we've got new players they're highly talented highly recruited however not only have they not played with him they've not played college football they're extremely inexperienced not like they haven't played at all jakai Douglas probably had the most uh experience coming into this game but they might be off in game one that was my my thought but as it turned out I think I was correct but I'm not going to claim being 100% correct it was just simply DJ wasn't looking downfield most of the time uh so that's Point number one and number two just DJ as an extended point on that just I don't have a ton of confidence in him I don't think he's horrible I don't want to pile on him but do I want him quarterbacking my team no I just have never thought he was that good uh ever since the two games he filled in for Trevor Lawrence those are the first two those are the two best games he's ever played in his career were the first two games he ever played uh against Notre Dame and Boston College so that was Point number one was basically DJing the wide receivers Point number two was that Georgia Tech's offensive line I don't think many people knew this but again I talked about this last week have an excellent offensive line and they were number one in the ACC and rushing last year they have their 1100 yard back Jamal Haynes back this season and so I thought well the two best defensive line for Florida State Braden Fisk and Jared verse two first rounders they're gone maybe Georgia Tech can control the ball and there were only 14 total possessions in this game seven per side that's exactly what George attack was able to do now the one point that I wasn't necessarily confident in but I thought it had a chance of coming through is that Georgia Tech Rush defense last year was awful however picked up a Penn State defensive lineman a Miami defensive lineman and most notably uh romelo height from USC who's a really good player on the edge that obviously helped they only gave up 98 yards on the ground and then finally Haynes King uh if he could keep the ball from Harm's Way through 16 interceptions last year I have always liked him he's a baller and I guess finally on top of that would be your field goal kicker with 17 of 19 so I said it right here on the video that was my closing Point got a field goal kicker and Aiden Burr who had 17 of 19 last year maybe he kicks a gamewinner oh wow how about that well um yeah I mean you're spot on I guess I guess the thing I don't understand part of the problem with our sport is there's so many people out there that just have lazy takes and uh obviously that's not you but I guess when you saw how FSU after the that you know that fateful day in December when they didn't make the playoff which I thought they deserved to get in I thought it was ridiculous uh that they didn't get in but um when you saw that team um when you saw all the people leave the team and not want to play in the Orange Bowl and and just this just amazing turnover that they had when you have that that I I just I don't understand why everybody was just just anointing them as a top 10 team I me they had so much turnover from last year and not only that uh the the coach has never really you know when you see a team and again I guess I'm I'm just so used to Kirby Smart and the culture that he's developed at Georgia but when you see a team like that just just not want to play in their bowl game to me that says something about the culture of that program and and the way they just didn't show up and got beat so bad and and I mean you know and we had we had a bunch of first and second rounders that decided to play in that game so I think it says a lot about our culture but the fact that all those kids just didn't want to play in the bow game they left the program I just I just don't think they have a great culture at FSU and uh he's not been able to develop that and so when I saw that plus I saw that Tech was such a you know the latter part of Lash year Tech was a hard out last year I mean they were tough to beat towards the end of last year I mean they they had a we played them they were when I say not we when Georgia played them I hate when people say we their team you do we have to discuss that sometime Porter yeah I just I'm not out there playing I'm I'm just in Alum of the I understand but if if you don't exist they don't exist yeah I know I I just don't like they don't exist if if you don't exist they don't exist I know I just I don't like saying we I just because I'm anyway um when Georgia played him I mean granted we you know uh we made a dumb mistake we're up by they were up by 16 going in the fourth quarter and and uh probably the one of the worst decisions um um that Carson Beck made last year is he tried to Force One In The End Zone he could have easily just just just sat on the ball and kicked a field goal we would have up by 19 and then it would have been over but anyway um anyway they we allowed them back in the game and all that so um anyway they they played Georgia pretty tough last year and they played um uh obviously they beat North Carolina last year late they beat Miami late in the year they they um I don't know they were they were just a tough foul last year and and they kept getting better and better and better and had a really good bowl game so I don't really I don't really understand this these people that just were like well Florida State's gonna just smoke them I'm thinking what are you looking at and and I don't know I just I just I think that's part of our part of the problem with our sport is just how lazy people are when it comes to some of their takes it's just it's just anointing a program like Florida state that had one really good year and just say that that they the next year would be just as good or or slightly less less as good they were this past year I don't know I don't understand it especially when they had so much turnover so yeah as I consider Georgia Tech's run down the stretch they had two games in which they were a doubl digigit underdog that's another point that I made in this video there were 18 double digigit Underdog wins and Shu we could have another one tonight that would be two already before we make it to week one and there were 18 involving power Conference teams and Georgia Tech pulled off two of them one against Miami as a three touchdown dog and one against North Carolina as an 11-point dog they won four their final six they beat North Carolina they beat Virginia who's not a good team but they beat him by four touchdowns uh they had a down game against Clemson although is I'm not going to say it was competitive they lost by three touchdowns but I watched quite a bit of that game and they they were in it for a while they beat Syracuse played the respectable game against Georgia were down by two touchdowns in the bowl game and came back and beat UCF um I do think that one of the big issues in our sport in trying to predict from season to season is just even before the transfer portal was that these teams are more different than let's say professional teams from year to year and now we got the transfer portal so just trying to gauge these teams from year to year is kind of difficult and yeah most people are lazy and they're going to default to the Florida state brand well I mean is it really that great of a brand I mean I know they've they were really good in the 90s they had some you know they kind of fell off in the in the early to mid 2000s when uh Ricks and you know Bobby balen kind of his latter part of his you know his tenure there I mean they're getting blown out by Wake Forest by 38 at home I mean you know in the late in the mid to late 20 2000s and and you know then they have they have a couple really good Seasons under Jimbo but but Florida State is not I mean they they are I know when they were shopping for a conference you know as an F as as a an Alum of an SEC school I didn't want them in the SEC I mean they don't bring anything they they're they're a very good they're very good program they got a good TR tradition and history but so does you know eight or nine of current SEC I I don't know really what they bring and then they and then when you see FSU treat their Administration or the ACC Administration the way they have when you see the way they you know did all these investigations and I mean just it just you know it's one of those things like why would you want that in your in your conference I mean it's like it's like a guy who um you know is is suddenly out on The Dating market and and suddenly a wife is or a a woman is is is is cheating on her husband and then and then suddenly is interested in you it's like why would you want that why would you why would you why would you want to be interested in somebody that treats their current situation the way they treated the ACC I mean they they did it such a classless way um I I I sure as heck didn't want him in the SEC if they want to go the big 10 that's fine but now they've lost this game they've lost they've gotten beat you know last two games by teams from Georgia and I I just I think they they think more highly of themselves than they really are you might be right on that um I will say this uh on the on the personal note in regards to and and we'll just stay on that very briefly people think that men in particular because they always think that they're different that they are going to be different that that is genuine so we'll we'll move that to the side but taking your analogy to the football field well the reason Florida state would not treat the SEC in the Big 10 like that is because they would be overjoyed and just thankful and be thanking their lucky stars that they could play in a league like that I'm not saying that their ethics would be any different you make a good point um and actually the point that you are making and I don't I don't necessarily agree with you not because I disagree with you but because I just don't know but I will just say that there are two sides to this and the one that you're stating was actually backed up in this latest Brett McMurphy article in which apparently MC Murphy and we've got to trust him that his sources are he's stating uh exactly what he discovered and that's in speaking to more than one it sounded like three or four presidents from the SEC and the Big 10 that they stated just what you said why would we want to take in a partner that is treating its current league this way why would we want to to deal with that yeah absolutely I mean it's true about it's true you can make so many analogies in life it's the same thing you know if you're working for somebody and you're and you're do you're treating your boss terribly it's it's the same kind of thing people don't realize that there are consequences to the way they treat people in every Walk of Life whether it's whether it's uh romantic relationship ship professional relationships whatever you cannot treat people like that and expect that not to come back and haunt you so you know I you know that that was my whole thing with FSU is just is just this this kind of arrogance that they had when they really didn't have the you know granted they had a wonderful history in the 90s they they were so such an impressive program in the 90s believe me I live through it unfortunately I had to live in Southwest Georgia when I had to deal with a lot of Florida State fans down that way that they were just bandwagon Georgians that just had to root for a team that was good and all this other stuff so I I I I don't I will say this from a personal standpoint I don't like FSU mainly because I had had to live in Southwest Georgia in the 90s I live like 40 minutes from Tallahassee and we had so many bandwagon fans that I had to deal with that had no loyalty to their state um so anyway now that now that it's not that way anymore I'm loving it so I do not like Florida state but I also do not like Florida State by the way they have acted uh in the courtroom and every everywhere else so um it was hard for me to to watch that game today because I don't like Georgia Tech obviously but I have it a lot of animus towards Florida State too so I guess I should go ahead and well so to be fair on the Florida State Side um and and hopefully we will through Discovery find out a lot of this that their claim is not just that the ACC was incompetent it's one thing to be incompetent but they claimed that they were actually corrupt in uh colluding with ESPN and that that whole situation was bungled from the start in regards to U the not just see see on the surface obviously that the claim against Florida state is you had free right to sign the grant of rights and then actually resign it just about five or six years ago so you've had two opportunities to deny uh playing under this contract that you're now trying to get under however or out of uh but but the flip side of that is that they are claiming Florida State uh some unscrupulous activity from the ACC and ESPN that hopefully we will find out yeah well it's um you know it's a tough situation I you know I for for people that are genuinely good FSU people I hate that they're going through this but it's it's um anyway I I I just kind of want to get bogged down and just discussing that but I I guess I I'll leave you with this I'm not g i mean on this subject I'll leave you of this one and it's what I tell FSU fans all the time is you you've won three national championships in your history and we all every single National Championship that you won was was as a member of the ACC so tell me how the ACC has been so bad for you and they always go well you know they start getting the money and the future and all this other stuff the fact is they never won a national championship before they were a member of the ACC yet they're like they they only have had the program that they've had since roughly 1980 so they only played as a nationally prominent program for about 12 years before they joined the ACC yep that's about right yeah I think uh yeah yeah the 70 I think the 78 Orange Bowl was really their first time they really did something they got by the Sooners pretty badly yeah 79 and 80 teams went to the Orange Bowl against Oklahoma yeah