They're Eating The Chimps | AWSF Episode 128

Welcome Back! do you believe in other dimensions oh for sure okay so it can't be all that space and time and stuff out there and and no Dimension okay so in this Dimension is it like us in a different dimension or are we like it's not humans I don't think we're important enough that there's other versions of us okay okay so so this alternate Dimension is like what a higher playing field of like what nonhumans it's like uh I don't think that I I I've recently come to the discovery that I don't think that that that there's other humans I think that like we are a one in a billion time like chance situation and that no like world that that we could have been created and evolution could have happened somewhere else I see what you're saying so like this is like a one in a billion situation we it yeah I like that so basically we should stop exploring space we found it we're here yeah we we we can just we can stop we can stop but come home everyone who cares about time and space you're right look at your hair Oh I thought you were going to go right into chimps I was like who cares about space there's monkeys to be spoken about you know I'll take any opportunity to talk about chimps but but more importantly you're right I am the focus Sarah's Big Change of this podcast and so is my hair Journey yes well okay let's take a quick beat alen just sent me a picture of a model I said I want to look like that model I took that photo to my stylist and said can you make me look like her she gave me the haircut I didn't walk out looking like her but it was a fun experience and now I'm living this new life and I'm a different person okay one you decided this literally last week like so Within you left here and you sent us voice notes and you said I think I should do this yeah and I said oh I'll take a beat like do a filter do something like I feel like you come here often complaining about your haircuts no not necessarily that I just I in the past no this is what I said you feel Bamboozled that you made a rush decision has she not I make rash decisions but as I said to Alex and Kate before you showed up I'm on a journey to find my hottest self okay hold on I wasn't done I wasn't done okay so in the past You' said that so I was like why don't you take a beat think about it you okay don't just go straight into it maybe use a filter something I was like I don't think she's going to dye her hair black like that would be pretty pretty drawing right but I thought you were going to go chop and last time you got a chop you were very upset about it yeah I was like oh man and like growing my hair back I was saying I've so that's why I said take a beat take a beat and then you said you did it mhm but in my head I didn't think that meant you dyed it any sort of color because I've never ever seen you have any other hair color besides pink well yes well white oh yeah pink and then white and so when I saw you today I was blown away by your beauty W yes okay but honestly you guys alen would have to say this even if she hated it no yes you would you know I would tell you you would be like yeah I would tell you if it didn't look good wow okay okay okay that's what friends are for yeah but you would kind of soften the blow you don't want to be like yo oh yeah I would soften yeah yeah yeah yeah my jaw was dropped for like two whole minutes I know for anyone on audio Sarah dyed her hair black brown really dark brown dark it's like past Chocolate it's like black I don't think would have suited you it's like charcoal is it charcoal charcoal would be gray yeah yeah that'd be very white walker midnight Brown made up that color Hershey's chocolate Hershey's yeah reminds me of poop it looks so good on you in no world would I have ever thought of you with brown hair because you've always been a blondie yeah it just like I said I said how does it suit you so well it's like you should have had this hair color years yeah so I love it thank you and I think you I I think you took a big swing I did and it paid off because having blonde hair your whole life and then just going I'm gonna raog go dark yeah not many people can pull that off I think it's like again you know at this age nearing 40 you're old old joke it matches your brows did you dye your brows no my brows are this color so I have naturally dark hair I have naturally dark hair although like you know I've spent my life trying to be blonde because I feel like it kind of matched my personality you know what I mean um but as I've mentioned before on this podcast like I like a drastic change I'm not that attached to my hair and it's like the one thing that you can really do at this age to really like switch things up you know look different and as I mentioned earlier I'm on my journey to find my hottest self is it blonde is it brown is it short is it long I don't know yet I know so I'm on my way and I think I'm I'm I could be potentially liking this brown I'm not used to it yet I this my first day no hat so good it's such a good Brown it's fun I feel like no hat you've been wearing I've been wearing a hat ever yeah why because I'm like not used to it and I'm like seeing myself and it feels like a wig to me I feel like I've put on a wig what did what was your family's reaction uh I'm not sure they're convinced I'm not sure they're sold especially my mom and you know she's honest with me yeah hi Mom she I think she was culturally Jarred and again I look nothing like whan now so like the the the contrast with us is like you know I was going blonde so like we could look like mother daughter yeah we don't look like mother daughter yeah I was going to say you guys were like kind of twinning before we were twinning and now we're opposite twinning yeah what is what about your sister I think she likes it she would tell me the truth like you do you do you feel like I like it like you can tell I'm being real with you I can tell you're being real okay cuz I don't want you to leave and be like I don't know no lik it I thought Alex and Kate were for sure lying to me because like they kind of have to you know what I mean so I wasn't getting the they're always nice well Alex not I would say otherwise I do think I think you pull it off really well yeah okay well now I just making me think like you should dye your hair darker I was thinking about it too what I like what if I had black ha look look at your brows my my hair my hair is my hair is like so like light right now I know yeah it's like you've been out the sun too much playing in sand yes a little bit of that but I might buzz it I might d d it black I want to do something see again you got you need a drastic change it's fun Pi things up it is I went through that phase come on I had I had pretty blonde hair and like what so once you start dying your hair blonde you kind of have to like trans like you have to go a little bit more blonde every time cuz your hair won't take it right away and so once I was in it I was like this is my only time to try a bit more blonde so I just kept gradually increasing it and then I I mean I liked it it was fun it was a fun time it was like my pink hair phase it's true then I was like it's it's not me you know and then when I went to my dark hair I was like oh I feel at home you know yeah yeah you got to have a phase you got to have a phase I agree Kate Kate there's no way Kate's ever had a phase I had a feeling but your your it looks so good thank you I can't but I don't know anymore you could come blonde next week and I could be like you should have been blond this whole time I might have to do you guys she's like I'm never doing it no no yeah Kate has a signature look some people have a signature look I think I think my signature look is having no signature look like I'll switch it up who cares I don't care and I said honestly like this is basically a manic response to Corbin going on a trip for Europe like he left work Tri yeah okay sorry yeah left for work and I was like oh hell no iir he has seen it no you you're not going to send him a selfie no I sent him a selfie but it was with a hat on because as I said I have not removed my baseball cap since I got it yeah so yeah he hasn't seen it yet and I even texted him this morning cuz he's coming home tomorrow and I was like I'm nervous for you to see my hair like I'm sweating a little bit so we'll see um but yeah I'm having fun I'm going to come up with a whole new personality and you'll see me change drastically and like all my opinions will change because now I'm a different person cuz now I have black hair yes the end let's talk about monkeys yes okay I mean look at your hair whiplashed me so hard that I don't even want to talk about chip crazy no no no which is crazy I feel like I need to spend the next five episodes deep diving Chimp Crazy on chip crazy first I'd like to apologize to you publicly and say I'm so sorry it's taken me this long to turn on chimp crazy I watched four episodes in like like overnight basically and I had chimp nightmares and you were like after at the end of each episode you don't need to apologize but I'm so happy that you listen to me I I honestly had to I couldn't let you down I couldn't let you down after I got to be honest I watched the first 20 minutes when I was really tired I was like got I'm that into it then I watched then I watched all all four start to finish okay [Music] Kate no I agree it's very hard to watch but like also you can but after the second episode you're like comp I so where I left off last night before finishing it this morning was I finished episode two okay no I told you before we started this episode I told you we have to go one episode two episode three episode four I have to do it in chronological order cuz I've never been so ramped up about anything in my life so let's start with episode one Elina tell us your thoughts well that was like months ago for me so I didn't even know months no it was maybe a month ago yeah not to brag or anything cuz I was like ahead of it um but episode one do you want me to give you like a snippit of what happened in episode one story but yeah okay so in episode one spoiler alert everyone we meet Connie we meet Tanya we kind of see we get like a background of The Chimps in the entertainment industry we kind of see them in their cages we meet the lawyer we meet the director and the director by proxy which cracked me up like I would love to be somebody's by proxy for basically any job know I will be a byox director byox friend any kind of by proxy situation I'm looking and I'm avable I love it you're just pretending to do somebody else's J acting you're right I am acting he does a good job he does I think I could really based off my new hair and my new personality I think I could I deceive anyone I can deceive anyone I could be a spy yeah so we kind of start to see a little bit about Tanya she mentions that she loves the Apes more than her children I thought that was a jarring for state like we literally open on I love these chimps more than my kids and I was like okay and then you meet her kids later seriously they're clearly upset I mean if I saw a documentary where my mom said that about me just s like they're clearly need to go to therapy or are in therapy for their mom no for sure and we should also get Tanya into therapy like while we're at it let's just have a huge therapy documentary about them in therapy yes so did you have do you remember in any initial thoughts on episode one taking a quick break from chimps to tell you ZocDoc about today's episode sponsor Zach do just like diarrhea there are some things in life that are just inevitable and if you're a human or an ape chances are you've been sick at least once or twice in your life maybe it's just time to maybe it's just a routine is it diarrhea yes maybe it's some diarrhea or sniffles big difference but maybe it's either but no matter what Zach do is here to help Zach do is a free 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he said to me before I went to any party and he said he did he he said there's a chimpanzee at this party you need to call me and I'm going to pick you up any time I went to a birthday party he said to me do not stay at that party if there's a chimpanzee and I literally would be I would say are you kidding me and he would say no Sarah like I swear they're going to rip off your nose your eyes and your ears and I be like okay Dad so years of my life I'm talking 20 25 years if I left the house he'd be like call me if there's a chimpanzee that's [ __ ] crazy did you feel like so validated watching this yes I was like no wonder because it starts talking about chimp party they're bringing these [ __ ] chimps to little kids parties that's insane like I just have to say like they're so cute when they're little yeah I was they're really cute when they're little like when they're little and they're running around I'm like oh they're then I started feeling guilty I said I looked at no and I said Are We Wrong for having Oli no I it was the entire thing was giving the entire thing was giving Alina and olly like Tanya to Tonka was Alina and Olli the whole time I'm like this is like a backdrop of like Alena's life like if they came for olly she would like chain herself to a tree you know like and like if they took Ollie away like they she couldn't visit him I would have to call 911 on Alina because you never know what would happen I'm not sure if I should be offended no that's just like your love that's like your love for him come on it's not Tonka level love you don't think I mean now I feel like rude if I say no but no it's Tonka level no you know why it's not Tonka level because I would never fake congestive heart failure for olly to kill him true that was like a okay now we're jumping around again and you're going to I know I'm sorry what am I supposed to say I would never do that to my son I know you I also never keep him in a cage take it back okay I take it back I take it back if if he grew like five times the size and like started getting aggressive you wouldn't cage him I wouldn't have him oh okay so speaking of that let's just go boundaries let's just go into the cage thing like the cages are insane and the fact that I saw her giving these chimpanzees power and Powerade McDonald's and Powerade and hold on pause Reese's Pieces in a can the squirt bottle of Reese's I didn't even know you could eat Reese's out of a can Okay but did The Chimps not remind you of Alex you know now that you say that it's kind of giving chimpanzee he always does have a banana that's weird and the amount of donuts she feeds them that's true no I thought that was like okay to feed chimpanzees that that's that to me so [ __ ] up like number one eating a banana yeah he's literally eating a banana while we're doing that like was that planned sure I didn't see them eat one banana in the whole documentary there wasn't mention of any bananas you're right no they had fruit and bowls like she was getting fruit in the bowls but there was no bananas in there there was berries like cantaloupe yeah um the cages were insane uh the cages in people's house that they created for them insane I know the Side Stories I so getting to episode two I watched episode two late last night yeah went to sleep had nightmares did were you certain that Tanya kept him yes there was no question in my mind that Tanya kept Tonka I didn't think so I was like oh where did he mysteriously I mean like I knew she did something with him but I didn't think like he died I was just like you you would never bold face lie with all these cameras and this like whole crew like you just wouldn't lie and when she was balling on the uh Zoom call zoom and zoom court cases are wild bring it back bring it back and when she was like oh this guy's a [ __ ] idiot and the the judge was like uh your mic is still on I was like that is so something I would do and the Ashes to me just look like cocoa powder yeah she basically just hot chocolate the fact that that was actually a chimp I know dug up another chimp and then they went to CH crazy chimp levels was I was thinking the whole time oh you know I had two I had like you know one thought like am my my is it wrong that like we have animals you know like we have dogs like well is that wrong probably toe these are domesticated like these these people think they're domesticated like the way that they're talking about them they call them like human chimps like half human AE I'm like you it's insane to me it's insane to me these are wild anim the fact that this is not illegal it like actually scares me know and I'm obviously never going to Missouri because I'm afraid for my life I know there's so much that happens there there's crazy chips there there's crazy animal protect these animals like sorry I know Peta is like you know I don't want to get on the Peta high horse cuz I'm sure they're kind of crazy too but what protect the animals oh yeah okay I'm getting all over the place but I thought doesn't this whole thing remind you of that show on Hulu where the mom was like Munch house and byy proxy what's that called gy Rose Gypsy Rose I feel like all of these people and their chimps are Gypsy Rose situation they are completely like completely convinced that they are doing like the Lord's work they're like saving these chimps when they're actually like keeping them in small places and making them [ __ ] crazy and then putting them their lives at risk their friends lives at risk and then end up killing the monkey did you guys notice all the monkeys died young that were kept that they were showing well yeah cuz they're drinking power raid and having McDonald's I know but I I was curious if the doc was going to touch on that a little bit at the end of like all of their lifespans were were so much less than normal monkeys well I don't really know up the top of my head like monkey lifespan well according to Planet of the Apes it's at least like human lifespans like 70 years you think it's not accurate the it says in captivity their lifespan is about 30 32 years for men okay so so close what about the women are we not counted they're 39 I told you Apes don't care about women so classic all these monkeys were males for the most part just saying yeah there's never any female chimps and you know what in any media so so rude I think that just like human society it took time for us that's true taking time for them to um I I the 911 calls for both the attacks were horrific and the fact that the lady lost her entire another one afterwards no no and that the Tanya's ear got taken off and she wants to have a little island with little monkey apes and okay I have to ask you guys the question that everyone thought yeah that no one asked yeah are they sleeping with the Apes no I don't think they're sleeping with the Apes no I mean they're in bed with them let me clarify they're sleeping with the Apes but I don't think it's anything sexual I think it's deeper than that I think it's like extreme loneliness and it's like the Munch house and by proxy thing like they want these monkeys to need them they need to feel needed and like granted we all walked watched the octopus documentary and we all were like this was better they they had separation because the guy can't live kissed octopus like maybe he had something you know and and so did you did that cross your mind at all like no are they doing any fun Alex I thought so but it felt way more like maternal it felt way more way more like like like they thought this was like a baby forever that's what I mean it's like they had nest syndrome that their husbands died and they slept in the same bed one where was dressing the monkey yeah that one that one not cross anybody like I'm not saying it didn't cross my mind but like this is like a this is what people are not [ __ ] registering like this is like a lion in your [ __ ] bed like these are crazy huge Beast can I say one more thing I have an issue with please so much mouth kissing for a monkey like every kiss that they gave each was like they fangs though there's like monkey Fang was mouth to mouth kiss dude you make out with Ollie like this is I do not I do not mouth to mouth he kisses me sometimes and I'm like no you know be honest no you I've seen you make out with Ollie more than I make out with ol but I'm fine with mouth-to-mouth kisses I exactly and I'm not so this everything's tracking here on my side but I wouldn't kiss an ape this way just so everyone knows like I would not be kissing any Apes if they are your son or well yeah they're not daughters if they're are your son just kiss them on the cheek no I'll kiss him on the mouth so if you had an ape you would kiss it on the mouth of course you just said that you would but I thought you were relating it to like a baby like I'm kissing my baby on the mouth yeah you yeah so like if I was having my m m by proxy situation and I owned a monkey and in the situation I thought this monkey was my child then I'd kiss the monkey they go in for so many mouthmouth kisses I think we have bigger problems than their mouth to mouth kissing I agree like I feel so bad for these animals truly like that they're like living in the darkness living in the small cage like and and and to have these owners bad for Tanya's lips too dude when she said like when the police were at her house I know we're everywhere with this and like the guy called her up the by proxy guy he's like hey like what's going on like what's going out with the police and she goes uh I have a lip filler appointment at 4:15 that I am not going to miss and I was like that is such a line so funny I what was the quote Oh the quote so this this was what made me feel like I like I actually kind of got like emotional hearing it and I was like I felt bad for them cuz it does feel like it's like maternal for them yeah so it was it was I think it was in episode four with like Sonia or something like that and she said it was when that 15-year-old when champ no yeah chance chance when chance died she said I think my golden years have turned into copper because I've lost my child yeah I was like oh my God that's poetry like I looked it up nobody that's not a quote from anything my golden years have turned into copper I was like you had devoted so much of your love and like your life to this monkey yeah but also flipped over and died maybe look into it maybe you were doing something that you shouldn't have at 15 that's crazy no I think in general like seeing all the they live way longer in Planet of the Apes Planet of the Apes really is our kind of view of Apes but I don't know this whole year has really set us up for Apes this it has been the year of the ape it's been the year of the ape for us I don't know how it's possible for us humans to be in this world of exotic animal trading like it feels like we're trading these animals like monkeys are going here tigers are going here like is anyone not concerned like why isn't there more of a let's [ __ ] and monins just being held in their in people's arms no these are monkeys need to be they need to be out in the wild it's weird that we have the opportunity to have these think that this is this is what are you laughing at the Capuchin I want I want a Capuchin I know they were really cute so cute if there's one kind of monkey I would want to own it' be a kuchan I mean that would definitely be the safest but yeah yeah exactly I wouldn't do it but it be still that [ __ ] monkey's way stronger than you Alex I don't know about that and it would literally kill you just so you know your Capuchin would take you out you think yes they're pretty small aren't they yeah but they're still a monkey that's the issue I can't I can't what I cannot get over is the strength that Mony monkeys have where they can just rip your limbs up off it's it's really scary like these are aggressive animals and you only the the [ __ ] honeymoon with these Apes is like 0 to five and then they're literally living in Hell know with these humans I know like they don't deserve that like they're having coffee and tea like they're eating they they think that they're people like I think these people need obvious severe help and it's scary and like you don't want what they're doing psychologically to these Apes it's so sad and like I don't want to like I know a lot of people love animals but I think like you have podcast now I know you have to look at the way you love animals like you can't love something it's like the same thing that you would do to a child like you cannot form this person for like you like you cannot create the situation that's best for you more yeah they only need you now because you've and they don't need you they're wild animals like let them live in this [ __ ] Island Sanctuary their [ __ ] are basically inside out yeah they should not be touching any furniture that's so true that is the reason that I stopped 20 minutes in I'm not kidding I was eating I was eating [ __ ] really no 20 20 minutes in I was eating and it's a shot of this guy's like falling out butthole and I was like I'll watch the rest of this tomorrow I was like I just can't look at this right now this guys dude this dude's butle is falling out do we also think since we finished it like how is this Tanya not in jail and and Bas the ple that she got at the end was so good like oh you don't have to pay for $300,000 you just can't trade any animals including like dog like any animals at all and she was like won't do it this is ridiculous yeah also another oneoff note the lawyer's voice can we just say like is there a voice that you have to have if you're like a lawyer or a doctor like you have to like pretty I I've never heard a lawyer or a doctor speak that I haven't been like that's a lawyer or a doctor yeah yeah what is what is it with the tone it's almost like I couldn't get past it yeah sorry you did a really good job way to fight the fight and get that chimp save but like your voice could you believe that the chimp was healthy yes I could [ __ ] believe it yes I could it was fat CH was [ __ ] fat as [ __ ] she gave this chimp an iPad and said I hope he's not emailing that's insane I forgot about that that was she's like I gave him an iPad but it's a kid iPad C she's like oh yeah I'm I'm sure he could figure out how to email s Peta help me seriously it's like her showing him all the Tik toks of the other monkeys was so funny I was like this is so sad like no like this is like a it's like a person like making a person sick brainwashing themselves the amount of brainwashing that they do to to convince themselves that they're like this amazing animal savior that's doing so much for them it's like no the shot the photo of her in the cage crazy I just it's like overwhelming to me that like this is just something that happens like and this is just like a story fact the fact that yeah someone right now has a chimp right now in their basement probably scary what if I moved to somewhere and there's a chimp neighbor and I'm not sure of it and I'm out playing in my front yard chimp attack have you seen Planet of the Apes no it happens that's what I mean I'm not ready to be attacked by a chimp I don't have the skills there's something that we we haven't even considered here what what Alex what could have a chimp that's so true you love chimp like you could be keeping that secret I would love to honestly he could have kuchin could you imagine if I just like went home and then this like beautiful monkey he was just like swinging through the vines that I put up in an enclosure in my living room he would just like come home and hold me Alex hypothetically get a girlfriend hyp I have a girlfriend and she no when she said at the end when she said at the end like I give up my husband I give up my kids just to go see Tonka I was like somebody get her help I know like if this is not a cry for help like there's um like that's not love and the fact that they have to now be held in this Sanctuary which is beautiful and great but they have to be there because they can't get them back to to the actual natural habitat where do they H where do they where do monkeys live hold on hold Monkeys vs Apes on don't tell us don't tell us think about where monkeys live they live anywhere where there's a jungle jungle could that be South America so that would be are there any jungles in America no we don't have jungles here okay so South America Brazil where's that Amazon they don't live in near the Andes okay so Peru the Amazon rainforest is it's South America and how are they getting transported here definitely not an airplane well she was a transporter so I bet she drove all the way [ __ ] down to the Amazon swirled around found a couple kapoi Alex is really cracking up they have to live in other places they can't just be from South America only so South America wait South America let me think of another jungle H there's nothing in Europe there's no kabo in Europe for sure I don't think I want see any kind of Juggle they're not in they're not inar no there's kind of big monkeys oh maybe haai no no don't say Hawaii we don't have any monkeys I know but it's very rain foresty there you wouldn't know that's true you only stay um okay not Australia that's more desert yeah I uh I mean Alex would you say it's more than South America can you give us a hint there are no a AP in South America there are some monkeys but there are no Apes in sou now you're confusing us is is it chimpanzee and ape chimpanzees and AP it's okay so there's no chimp there's no gorillas in the Amazon there's no wait what is a monkey because Planet of the Apes really really uh swerved me here because what's the difference between we're going to go down a really weird Rabbit Hole what are they it's necessary to know do you want to guess or do you want the answer no just give us the answer so is ape like um a word we're we're ape so we are Apes okay Alex don't get crazy we human Apes yeah we when I looked up are there uh chimpanzees in South America they said the only ape species in the Americas is humans really that's kind of weird that they were grouped together right yeah we are wow what do the Apes know they're probably like proud right they're like do they know yeah do apes talk to each other I mean you saw you saw Caesar speak true AP together strong no but do any of them talk they talk in Lang own species sign language oh yeah remember Coco C sign language so um an ape is a human but they are not monkeys feel like there's so many types of species of monkey monkeys consist of everything else so orangutang is a monkey a gorilla is a monkey Capuchin is a monkey no you're just like naming things to try to sound smart I'm I'm fishing to be correct I think you are and Alex will you I'm not really sure what you were fishing there an ape is a monkey no the difference wait so okay let's look at let's look at monkeys as a food pyramid okay so what is the what is the name for for monkey what do you mean the top monkey what is what do they all fall under name for them like okay here Alex you're not getting like um an an insect is many things right okay how about this Alex this what similar to a monkey an AP yeah bird seagull pigeon yeah so monkey capuchin monkey monkey howler monkey okay you can't just monkey on the end everything that's so D ape chimpanzee AP gorilla ape human yeah ape ape ape human no ape human ape no monkey ape human ape ape chimpanzee ape gorilla okay so monkey monkey monkeys over here Apes over here yes yes totally different okay so it's like bird bat bat no that's kind of like yes cuz they're different they both what is an ape an ape versus a monkey so an ape where did my tab just go uh monkeys have tails Apes do not have tails wow that is I wish you would have said that to me hours ago do we have have tail bone Tails have a tail bone so no tail means ape yes tail tail means monkey monkey monkey most monkeys have we should have started the conversation like that most monkeys I feel like he he clarified I know like he literally let us been welcome to episode 128 monkeys have Tales have Tales we didn't even tell him everyone it's 128 yeah so Rafiki he is a monkey yes he's a baboon baboons have taals they're monkeys wow I wonder who was like yes based on how you're asked looks that's deciding factor science I think the I'm trying I'm trying to my brain is scanning for monkeys in history we don't really have that many monkeys that are famous in history besides Curious George he's a monkey correct what about the barrel things those are monkeys monkeys Barrel monkeys that's for sure Tails animal crackers I think there's a tail on them now I'm just going to be like what about the monkeys and Wizard of Oz monkeys this it honestly kind of feels like a little little um uh what's the word uh H I can't even you know kind of like when like harassment what stalking yeah I'm trying to find a word for you you you'll know okay tell us when you get there hey let me see that ass oh oh sexual harassment I see what turn around turn around let me see your butt let me see your butt yeah I'll determine if you're a monkey or an ape yeah okay it feels kind of OB objectifying the monkeys objectifying the monkeys yes let me turn around let me see that ass I see I see it yeah yeah now I know who you are that's totally true that's so unpointed Lena I I'd be pissed if someone told me to turn around and see that butt yeah they be like ape yeah like [ __ ] they turned Alex around yeah monkey yeah Marcel the shelle Marcel monkey so now we at least can determine friends Marcel yeah I know they shouldn't have had him on TV now I look back at all the monkeys I've ever seen and I feel horrible I know no like I If Peta came here right now I'd sign a petition that said noral monkeys on the TV take them off we are crazy with animals we don't need to be petting them touching them get them out of here sorry no so Mor of the story where is olly under my and and for sure cuz I can't see him at all so olly has a tail what does that mean oh my God can you bring him over here I'm not being Tanya okay it's just like it's he's literally hiding come on oh that's really sad I don't know if he likes the talk of the animals you know what I mean he's like I'm one of them so is he a monkey yes that's why I said Alex a tail he's a dog oh my God we just sex SAR come here smooshy um anyways any last thoughts on uh chimp cuki yeah after we have probably spent the entire episode talking about chimps yeah any last thoughts any last thoughts Save The Chimps I have I have one okay yeah please how insane is it that they thought you it's crazy that they got the ashes of a different chimp right yeah yeah but how like I feel like not to intelligence shame but how stupid do you have to be to think that the ashes are going to be a fine powder like that like from just burning him on an open fire like the reasoning like then they showed us like this is what happens you have to grind it down like when you puton they got the temperature wrong yeah my God 165 to 170° it's 165° in Arizona right now I know it was insane that incinerated that's what they expected us to but honestly I was actually more impressed that they dug up a dead ape and burned it and she didn't just put a a yeah that was impressive but it was so dumb to be like no we just put him in a fire and he became this powder it's very weird to me that no one's in trouble it's very weird to me because I feel like I get in trouble pretty easily well she still has to pay 250 Grand right yeah we'll see no she's not paying anything we'll see she's not paying anything she doesn't have the money to pay so what happens then the debt collectors that's what the ending that's like the end was I guess I don't really understand debt collection so that's just a whole another Circle have you has anything ever gone to collections for you no but I also wonder like Bounty Hunters like I'm kind of just really I think about them often and like I don't know what they do and I just I don't know I need to Deep dive on it when I have some more time but wrapping this conversation up I had a question for you yeah if you were to make a documentary what would it be Our Documentaries of I think something about pigeons you're kidding no you're serious it'd be a bird documentary a bird documentary they were pets at one point in history okay and we deemed them to be disgusting and now they're we've we haven't taken care of them as a society and we've we we we we we chimped them we chimped them in history we captivated them we pet made them pets we did all this stuff we didn't teach them how to be and then we let them just fend for themselves and now they're just like trash birds and that we all hate and think are disgusting but we did that to them I would watch your documentary Elena wow what would you make a documentary about I think about this when I drive up I had a lot of thoughts and obviously my first one just right off the bat was deep sea but then I was like think harder Sarah okay everyone knows you're obsessed with deep sea and I thought I would love to make a documentary that followed people all different parts of the globe all different parts their entire life and see the parallels of humans that live in all different places just growing up at the same time I don't know how I could do it because obviously I would die I would have to have people take over this thing but I would love to see how similar we are all and how our experiences are the same or different so I just basically want to watch a human live two people no of five there's five people all over the globe and they're being filmed every single day every single day heartbreak marriage kids jobs wow and I just want to see what happens I'm obsessed with people yeah sounds like history but it'd be real instead of you know fake stuff that we read in our textbooks exactly yeah because history was written by who people Apes the winners it was written by Apes though Apes can't right well no cuz we're we are humans oh yeah that's right oh I passed the test damn you know us hum so well L know I know I know okay okay we're done with chimps yeah we're done we have any more time Alex oh thank God so if you're still with us I know we're on to the next barely though well I hope everyone's as involved with chimps as we are at this can we talk about a a a a PR Taylor and Travis PR Stunt relationship oh my god do you think Taylor is watching chimps like is she just like us like Taylor's probably watching chimp creat I'm sure she's seen it like she's texting her friends about it you think I'm sure she seems like she wouldd be into chimp crazy and it it's in Missouri so what is that is she close to Missouri isn't Uh Oh you mean Kansas City I see what you're saying Kansas City in she's so close to The Chimps she's like she's in been at a party with a chimp you're right you're right she's been up and close and personal with a monkey probably a compo yeah um so obviously it's come out that there's this real or fake document saying that Travis Taylor Travis Taylor Travis and Taylor's relationship is for PR yeah so I'd like to discuss this okay can I get your thoughts I believe it 100% it's a real document if it's not real why are you trying to get it removed and honestly after his speech when he won the Super Bowl I had a hard time really believing that they're a good match really okay I don't have the spe Las Vegas I don't have the speech off the top of my head it just felt like like they aren't compatible you don't think I don't think that they're a real couple I never really understood like the viewership she's bringing into the Super Bowl it seems so staged I okay and and and I'm sorry I'm hurt obviously I'm sorry but did you not do you not kind of feel like it feels a little bit like staged okay so first off and there PR relationships are really common apparently okay I get very upset by that I get very upset because I hate feeling Bamboozled don't yeah yeah you how are you going to trick us with love don't trick me with love because I support love okay and I support Hollywood couples I get real [ __ ] Jazz so that it's me that they're trying to trick number one number two what I said when this came out was like this is so beneath Taylor you know like as a Taylor stand this is so beneath her like she doesn't need Travis Kelce no she's way above Travis Kelce she doesn't need this kind of PR relationship Taylor's whole thing is like love and relationships yeah to me it seems so crazy that she would do something like this because like maybe it's for the NFL I don't feel like why would Taylor care about the NFL say they're giving her a billion dollars she's already making a billion dollars on her concerts Taylor doesn't need another billion she doesn't need another billion she doesn't need this [ __ ] I think she's just so full of [ __ ] no I'm with I'm with Sarah thank you Kate thank you Kate we were on a submarine together last week the [ __ ] you pull open the trap door let us flood if we're going down like this did have you have you see the stuff about her and like the kennedies and her obsession with the kennedies and stuff like that okay this is the thing about celebrities like no one really knows she has an obsession with the kennedies like she dated one of them bought she bought a house next door oh have you ever been to Rhode Island she she beautiful she tried to date one he went up to school tried toe she tried to date one she tried to date one he went up to school so she dated the other she didn't date the other yes she did yes she did I don't know about this this this is what the alleged thread which everything on find this Reddit on Twitter everything is real she tried to date one she moved on the other one and then she bought a home right next door okay but if you've ever been to Rhode Island and you've drove those streets and there's a whole other Island why she there's the whole all of Rhode Island why'd she buy a house next door gorgeous it's literally gorgeous and if I could afford a house on that street and Taylor lived there and her ex-boyfriends I'd purchase one too but sometimes it's not for money it's like just to kind of switch up what the story is and so now everything but but now like to me this is below her I don't sorry just to clarify I don't think it's a PR relationship I think she's weird I don't I don't oh yeah just clarify I'm on your side I don't think it's bar I think she's weird what part about got leaked I think it's [ __ ] fake probably like fake for the company like they have so much [ __ ] now and like maybe they drew something up like this like being like oh this is what we would do for like a different type of couple blah blah blah blah blah if it was real using them as an example do you think that they would end the relationship on the no proposed day well like if it's if it's fake they obviously can't do that now okay but but do people who love like that's T's brand do you not do you not watch videos of them and feel like no I actually like videos of them because I feel like they're interacting like how I would like she's singing to him and like being goofy like they were at the US Open and she's literally like losing her mind over a song like doing air guitar is like that's literally something I would do with Corbin I act ridiculous and I think sometimes people think her act is so crazy but I think that's like how a normal everyday weird person would act like I sing in my car just like that she just has more eyeballs on her and I think that bothers people so much because it's like she's behaving like no one's watching like how dare she sing I don't I I I don't think it's like I don't think she acts like she's putting on a show or anything like I didn't think anything of I didn't I thought kind of like oh this is like really convenient for the NFL like people are so are watching because she's involved how many people were hating on her because of that like think how many more people hated on hated on her because yes people like she's ruining the NFL get her off the [ __ ] screen what people hated on her you hated on her for being there I no no not for being there sorry like it's just like any like anything that she does right is like I hate on her to piss off Sarah okay let's be real that's fair it's I don't think about her at all outside of this podcast that's more herun that's like you've ever said to me I just and I honestly I saw the the I heard about the pr thing and I thought I'm not going to bring this up Sarah I don't want to ruffle or feathers I don't want to say and then you brought it up and I was like okay well let's talk about it I just don't like I understand that these things happen and I I know that they happen more often than we think you know like I know that it it bodess well for people to be in a celebrity couple yeah one thing about me if there's a conspiracy theory I'm going to believe it really I'm going to give it I'm going to give it 50% chance so when I heard about it I thought well it is mutually beneficial to them I don't think it's mutually beneficial at all to Taylor and it's mutually beneficial for Travis Eva Las vas speech okay I didn't it's hard it's hard for me to make a comment on a via Las Vegas I I kind of I I don't I don't get that point I think that I I don't think it's PR cuz I truly think that they make perfect sense for each other I think that I think this like I think they're both corny as [ __ ] yeah have you seen his mustache 100% he's he's a cornball fun I I think they're both fun cornball type people that work together same and like finally somebody that like w Wait wait wait finally you guys are on the same page I know this is you could come back in my sub my what I'm saying is like I feel like and I think people are saying this too so like this is an original thought but like finally someone seems to not be like maybe embarrassed to be dating Taylor right like every other boyfriend it feels like was like they're embarrassed to well it feels like for whatever reason like a lot of her relationships have been private maybe because of the guy it felt like everyone kind of was like it's not cool to date Taylor and somebody's Finly letting her just like be herself and it's like refreshing I think when you're a fan to be like oh he's not hiding her he's not embarrassed of her like everyone else seemed to me I feel like you'd want to flaunt being with Taylor everyone else didn't which is what Travis does Harry didn't Joe didn't I give I give her Flack because of her St I I think that like similar similar to what people have talked about of like what you don't think you think that like the like the fact that you're just like upset about that like she has like a crazy Army of fans but doesn't everyone have a crazy Army of fans Not to her level I don't think so I think everyone is has obsessive fandom at this point everyone's fans are named certain things but like but like she has to call them out in her music like she had like in her last album she had to talk about how crazy they are that most most artists don't have to be like yo like please let me breathe like for a second so I feel bad for her in that way chapel chapel yeah because she's a new artist and she's adjusting to fame this is like she's been famous for 20 years now and she's like yo you guys need to relax so I kind I I mostly I give her fle but it's mostly because I feel bad how high like how much of a pedestal she's put on and like she needs to be perfect for this like AR Army of people that like will die for her but will also judge her if she does anything possibly slightly no I agree I think fandom in general like is a whole separate conversation of like it's intense and like people I you know how I feel about people like idolizing celebrities like I don't feel like they should be put on a pedestal this is just somebody who's really good at her job at writing music and making people like what she's saying and relating to people like I don't think she needs to be up here doing anything for anybody fan related okay I but I just think that's so if any is a huge ass star like I just think that like fans become so attached it's like with the chimps like everyone needs to back off like Let The Chimps be let Taylor be yeah and I think I think Adele should have the feel that she does we're out of time God I just started talking should we extend the episode to the bonus yeah Join Us In The Bonus! we can do that yeah we can do that well let me get on my I watched Lord of the Rings oh my God I'm so excited for the first time you guys all three just the first one do you even know that there was three now one no I know there's a lot of them well there's three but also the but they're all like four hours so that's like a lot thank God I wish there were five yeah we're going to talk about your thoughts yes we'll see you in the bonus oh bye bye [Music] he