Chris Reed Resigns from Morning Star THEN Admits Moral Failures With Young Woman

so breaking news today fortunately I have more bad news to bring to you the Roy's report released a bombshell article today that Chris Reed former CEO of Morning Star Ministry resigned and then he admits to the Roy's report that he is guilty of sexual misconduct with the morning star student who is 7 years younger than him it seems like he only came forward with this information as a result of being confronted so he didn't come forward on his own this should be taken into consideration in his restoration process so Galatians does tell us that we should restore those who have fallen gently um it doesn't necessarily say if that verse is in regards to leadership but we should we should not um rejoice in someone else is falling we should not look to say hey look at them they're so stupid we should be looking at our own lives we should be looking at our own sin during this moment I know for the last year I have been examining myself like never before and in prayer like never before asking God remove the plank from my eye remove the sin from my life so Chris Reed did not come forward on his own to admit this it was prompted by this female coming forward and we're going to talk about this it also seems that there is a much much much bigger issues going on at morning stor Ministries than has been relayed to the public in regards to the sa which stands for okay I can't say the word YouTube will censor the video so it seems possible that we could be witnessing the beginning stages of the downfall of Morning Star Ministries as we saw this happen with I Ihop KC and the Mike Bickle situation so we're going to go over all the details in this video and get into the Roy report article if anybody think that I'm doing these videos because I like to do them you're totally out of your mind I've been preaching since I'm 20 years old and never once covered a CH a church Scandal until recent times I do not enjoy doing this actually I'm writing two books right now as we speak I would much rather be devoting my time to that I don't want to cover this stuff at all but the point is is this is what God is doing in the church in this hour and when people ask one day what God was doing in 2024 the answer is going to be resoundingly clear God was cleaning house God was dealing with Ministries and leaders and people that weren't living upright people particularly in the charismatic church and he's starting to do that because the Bible says that God disciplines those that he loves those that He considers his son hi my name is Joshua Simone welcome to my channel the ministry is called Torn curtain that's because when Jesus died on the cross and rose again the curtain in the Old Testament Temple was torn from top to bottom hit sub the Subscribe button I promise to bring you the best Christian content moving forward 87% of my audience has not subscribed yet hit subscribe you won't be disappointed I'll do my best to bring you quality videos but I am really upset right now I'm just hoping that in my anger that I do not sin the Bible says that we could be angry but not to sin to sin not but in my last video I was actually trying to show a lot of Grace to Chris and morning storm Ministry and this upset many people in my audience that thought that they would G that I was giving them a pass no I have not I have been on record saying several times that I have serious concerns with Rick Joiner Morning Star Ministry and Chris re all across the board there are definitely some red flags grow going up I'm not saying that they're not doing anything good but what I am saying is that I have very serious concerns and all of this just confirms the things that I have been feeling for a long time but I foolish believe that Chris wouldn't be in the wrong in this situation I really wanted to believe the best for Chris I really took uh took his back and even encouraged my viewers to support him financially yesterday but today I'm going to say Do not support him financially but here we are again another church Scandal and this is indeed link to the end times where the Apostle Paul warned us of apostasy of a great falling away this is the decline of ethics and morality not just in in the culture but now it is going in church leadership right we saw another Gateway Pastor resign this guy was the pastor over all of the pastors at Gateway Church and he had a moral failure and I said my goodness now the overseers for pastors are falling and the truth is is something is going on right now in the church and God is trying to get our attention I read a Charles Spurgeon quote that he said God speaks most loudly through our tears through the things that hurt us because they get our attention and the Lord has got my attention does he have your attention does he have your Church's attention is your pastor paying attention or is he just glossing all of this over and really we need to really stop and take a deep pause into the state of the church into the state of pastors into the state of Ministries my particular calling is to the Charismatic Church in particular because that is the most rapidly growing Church by far throughout the world particularly in South America and Africa but to be honest with you more high-profile scandals will happen before the end of this year I don't think we're through yet a lot of people in the prophetic Community have spoken to this so why didn't Chris fed Fest up when he wrote his resignation letter two days ago and why didn't Rick Joiner mention all of this in his statements yesterday you know why because they are covering up for the brand they do not want to lose follow followers and support they're in damage control and we saw this the same thing that happened with IHOP KC before their demise Gateway Church to a certain degree almost right from the beginning admitted they were wrong and came out forward with the information but with all of these situations they don't come forward on their own until a gun is held to their heads until someone forces them to do the right thing and once again Julie Roy from the Roy report drops another bombshell I wonder where the body of Christ would be today with without people like her I read this quote yesterday in my video and this Pastor said this nine t nine times out of 10 journalism and social media are the only accountability for bad pastors and then a lot of times these bad pastors tell their followers that those that are sharing the truth are spiritually attacking them or spiritually bad people and the truth truth is is God there's such little accountability in the church listen leaders are human too as I stated yesterday in yesterday's video I would not want to be a pastor in today's times I'm not I wouldn't say no to God's calling if he called me to do that but I wouldn't willingly want to be a pastor again these are really difficult times to lead in the forces that the church is facing a more difficult than they've been in the past we are in a state of War a spirit ual war and people that could have been a pastor 10 or 20 years ago might not be able to make the cut in these times I don't want to bash all leaders and old pastors we need to leave some room for them to make mistakes and we need to pray for our pastors and our leaders more than ever get down on your knees and pray for your pastor pray for the the Bishops and overseers of your church pray for the various people involved the worship leaders cover over them and their family because these are really difficult times to lead but is it too hard to ask these guys to be faithful to their wives to not cheat on their wives to not get involved in sexual misconduct an overseer of a church must be above reproach meaning that they cannot have anything in their lives that others point to to Discount their message and it should be noted they choose to pursue a church effort and they chose to go into public Ministry that has requirements in the New Testament so before we get into the details of 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Tuesday because he was standing on the side of the victims we we had found out the other day that morning storm Ministry had sa of miners okay which stands for isn't is uh stands for I can't say it and many of them are going to be suing the ministry so they confronted morning storm Ministry with the allegations okay Chris Reed the CEO and president of the prophetic Ministry Morning Star resigned Tuesday telling the Roy's report it was because he is standing with the victims there have been some victims of sa okay and they are now suing the ministry but after the Roy's report confronted him with allegations that he pursued a woman sexually in 2021 Reed admitted to sending the woman terrible sexual text and kissing her Reed still M maintains that he resigned because of the lawsuit filed on August 7th against Morning Star Ministry alleging that the ministry mishandled child sa by a former volunteer leader Ericson Lee the alleged abuse occurred before Reed became Morning Star CEO and Reed said that he did not want to be the face of a Ministry entangled in a legal battle so again it seems that he stepped aside for self-preservation which is another whole conversation on its own however in the wake of the resignation the Roy's report learned that the allegations of sexual misconduct in 2021 was able to contact the woman involved at the time of the misconduct Reed who was married with six children was the pastor of Morning Star Fellowship Church and in line to become the CEO of Morning Star so this guy has a family a wonderful wife and six children and he decides to make this stupid stupid decision to get involved with another woman who is a student at their school of ministry and as we will get to that is clergy sexual abuse because of the parad dnamic because when you were a spiritual leader you have a certain sense of power over the person and that part of the dynamic that should come into play here so it's very serious for a pastor to be doing that so let's get back into the article so the woman who asked the Roy's report to only use her first name which is Catherine which is seven years younger than Reed and a student at morning stor Ministry where Reed was the leader the Roy report has a policy of not naming alleged victims of clergy sexual abuse unless they request otherwise experts consider any sexual involvement between a person of Spiritual Authority and someone under him abuse because of the power diff differential I solely regret it Reed told the Roy's report I take full responsibly for it it was it wasn't her fault at all I fully fully to blame okay so that's great that Chris Reed did own this and took full responsibility that he didn't put any of the blame on the victim sometimes those things happen when this happened we saw that a little bit in the Gateway Church situation where it seemed that they had uh blamed the woman who was involved especially with spiritual uh Authority in play here Chris it takes on all of the responsibility so this Brave woman come Catherine decides to come forward this isn't easy for people like that so we should applaud these people Catherine I'll be praying for you this week I'll be praying that the Lord would heal you go back to the article Catherine told the Roy's report that Reed started the relationship with a prophecy about her then the two met frequently alone in either her or his car during November and December 2001 Reed would often kiss her cathine said in one encounter Reed touched her genitals and Reed also sent her vocal text she said I felt very bright and Shining that he had been giving attention from the great Chris Reed okay so again when there's a spiritual figure in play people look up to you so basically this woman really looked up to Chris and we kissed all the time he said things to me that a man of Honor even with his wife should have not said okay so that's most likely sexual explicit stuff that he said re told the his report on Tuesday that the relationship involved texting only and claim it had sto and he decided to set a boundary so it looks like the Roy's report confronted him earlier in the week he um lied about it so this is clear cut lying and that could should be considered in the restoration of Chris that he also lied when confronted about this and that would add on more um tack on more charges to this whole situation a lot of times again people do not repent until they are confronted and let me just say this Tony Evans a well-known minister in the charismatic world as a pastor in Dallas Texas he resigned and his church and him never disclosed what the details of what he done was and I want to encourage everybody in the church we don't need to know all the details and everything that happened but Tony Evans is responsible to give somewhat of a statement for what he did before he returns to Ministry and if he will not give any indication for what he did he should not be accepted back into Ministry because how can we consider him above reproach if we don't know what he did and again we don't need to share all the details but he started posting on Twitter again and I'm just sitting there shaking my head saying no no no no no no no don't think you're going to be able to just sneak back into Ministry a little bit and not explain exactly what you did Tony come forward confess repent and tell the body of Christ what you did so back to this situation the Roy's report on Tuesday spoke with Morning Star founder and chairman Rick Joiner who will be taking over his Morning Star CEO again Joiner did didn't think the relationship crossed any line he added that he met with Catherine about the matter and made sure she was okay he thought it had gone far enough and that it needed discipline and restoration and set boundaries with female students Joiner said Tuesday Chris was all for it I think Chris handled it the best way he could have done so it seems that Rick knew about all this and then released him back into Ministry knowing that uh Chris had this inappropriate relationship with the student for over a year and never disclosed this okay so here is Rick Joiner and Chris Reed sitting together however on Wednesday edn when confronted the Roy's Report with the woman's allegations Reed admitted he met Catherine alone in a parking lot where they only hugged when Roy's report asked if they also kissed Reed said yet but he denied any kind of sexual touching there was no sexual encounter he said she never seen me unclothed or touch me unclothed I have never seen her unclothed or touched or unclothed okay so the Roy report called Joiner on Wednesday for comment as well but he did not respond okay surprise surprise nobody wants to pick up on a phone call like that Catherine said she is speaking up now because she believes in a good God it's not about me it's about the Lord she said it's about the goodness of God so Katherine shared in a private Facebook message Chris Chris Chris initiated with her in November 2021 showing Reed pursued her and called her more special than the other students he prophesied over her asking for her class schedule gave her his PO personal cell phone number and asked if she had a tattoo pretty bizarre okay both Katherine and her mom Karen also who also asked to be identified only by her Force F first name Catherine disclosed a matter including sexual text to several Morning Star leaders in February 2022 with Katherine also present with Karen also present Catherine said she no longer has the phone with the sexual text on it Karen who brought her kids to Morning Star because she believes God LED them there says she hopes revealing this now will lead to Redemption and restoration for all we want Chris to get the healing and restoration he needs also Katherine Karen said I've always been about getting people the resources they need so so they could be fully restored okay so it's good to see that for the most part Catherine seems to have an optimistic view on all of this and um she seems to uh not be not have a bitter Spirit or looking like she's trying to attack Chris she says that she's hoping that God could use this for his purposes and that it was important that she come forward so that Chris could be healed that this could come out into the open and I just want to commend Catherine for coming forward with all of this it's very brave it's very bold it's it's very hard to do that and often people don't want to do that because it's very difficult so let's get back into the article Reed told the Roy's report that morning star CEO in March 20123 a year after originally scheduled because of his misconduct Reed said he stepped down from public preaching for a short time but continued in other leadership responsibilities at Morning Star to out 2022 so again they left him on staff for a whole year and he was continuing to prophesy and everything I just really I'm scratching my head right now I think like these type of situations are required you to be sat down from for a period to be removed from the pulpit to be released of teaching and preaching responsibilities so you could be fully focused on uh being restored and getting counseling and being ministered to instead of ministering to but knowing Rick joiner's restoration here of history with people like Paul Kaine and Todd Bentley it's not surprised that he continued to let him operate in this role for a year Reed also said he publicly told the church that he had done something wrong but not gone into the pacifics and there's a reason that he didn't go into the pacifics because if he did that people would have put pressure on him to sit down so again back to the Tony Evans situation when you don't tell us what they did and I'm not saying you have to go into pacifics it's it's not a good situation because how do we know if we can trust you so Reed says here's what I told the church I take full responsibility for it there was a situation in my life where I needed the grace of God it did not involve sex or money or notoriety but it was still wrong and I had to talk to the elders in my life and be accountable Reed said initially Reed said he sent a cryptic letter to staff Tuesday announcing his resignation which he admitted may come as a surprise and perhaps even a shock again he did not make any mention of the Scandal he added there are many reasons behind this choice but primarily after 3 years of serving here I came to realize I can't continue in this role so again partially dishonesty we went over Chris's letter in the first video that I did on this um I did a second video yesterday and this is the third video so if you want to find out more of Chris's letter you can watch the first video so later on Tuesday the RO Roy's report reported that Reed resigned because of a lawsuit when the Roy report asked if he resigned due to any allegations made about Reed he added that he wanted to be transparent about texting a relationship several years ago but the lawsuit followed against Morning Star was filed in August 7th in York County and it alleges that Eric Lee a Morning Star Ministry with young Special Forces ministered to young teenage boys from 2019 to 2022 Abus multiple children tied to the ministry the abuse happened before Reed took over as CEO of morning storm Ministries but here Reed says that told the Roy's report on Tuesday which is contrast to his letter I don't want to be involved with being the face of a Ministry and answering questions about a legal battle that didn't involve me I walked away with nothing because I won't fight against minors who were abused I'm standing on the side of the victims okay so Chris Reed said in his letter that his resignation wasn't a direct result of this um the essay of minors but it seems that he told uh Roy's report right here that that is the reason he doesn't want to be involved again let's just call that what it is it is partially self-preservation I'm not saying that um that he did the wrong thing but I'm saying he wants to get out of the way but it does seem like it seems at a minimum his heart is okay in right place because he doesn't want to stand in any defense against any essay of miners he's making it clear he stands with the victims okay so now we're going to get into the fact that this plot of this sa at morning storm Ministry is going to run a lot deeper than Rick Joiner possibly LED off I think that's why he removed some of the statements that he made about this whole situation but this plot runs a lot more thicker and seems to be a much more serious situation than originally that we thought so now this is going to focus on the part of this officer that had done this Essay with the miners so one of the alleged victims called John Doe and his parents are suing Lee Lee's father Doug Lee Morning Star Fellowship Church Rick Joiner and former Morning Star VP Dave Ys and 10 unnamed Morning Star staff or Ministry Associates so this lawsuit is targeting many people it's probably going to be big and high-profile the suit alleged that multiple leaders including Joiner failed to tell staff of students about allegations against Ericson in early 2023 okay so that is about the time when Rick Joiner came forward to defend Mike ble and said all the charges that would add up to a nothing Burger he said and it turned out to be a major Scandal that brought that Ministry down this could be part of the reason that Joiner um minimized the charges because it seems like according to the Roy's report he was doing the same thing himself so Erikson Lee was quietly asked to step down the suit alleges Morning Star Joiner yearns and Doug Lee allowed a president to run in the church Organization for years and then when caught they tried to cover it up Lee who is a former Marine on his way to being a cop ran the program with little supervision the suit States soon Lee gave uh doe alcohol Vapes pornography and took some boys to overnight trips according to the lawsuit on top of this Erikson Lee then forced the boys to get naked in front of him and to take a shower together the suit alleges it adds that Lee began sex ually abusing doe when he was 14 years old last year Lee was arrested by the spe Special Victims Unit in the dissemination of obscene material to persons under the age of 18 years old and criminal sexual conduct Joiner called the lawsuit accusation against Ministry outrageous in a statement a Morning Star emailed to the Roy report but posted and then later removed from morning storm Ministry app so let me just say this because a lot of people defend um the people that have been abused in these cases you wouldn't believe how many comments I get on this okay statistics show that over 90% of people that come forward that's saying that they have been abused have actually been abused and they are telling the truth so in these situations we should absolutely believe the people that come forward and saying they're being sexually that they've been sexually abused and we saw in the de in in um the Mike ble situation how they called it a demonic attack or the black horse as charismatics many times we can overs spiritualize these things giving it some type of label like the spirit of Jezebel or a spirit of absolum but we need to not do that stuff we need to stay focused on the fact that when these allegations come forward they're probably telling the truth we need to leave some room for people who are not telling the truth okay because that will happen in the end times church but the truth is is that um it seems like according to this Royal report article that Rick could have been involved in covering this up uh that wouldn't necessarily be shocking considering everything that went on in his overseeing of the Todd Bentley situation and Todd had several morning fail moral failures was released back into Ministry and and I heard Jack deer say recently that Todd has never fully repented he was part of the overseeing committee for Todd bentle and uh that Todd had never fully repented what but was released back into ministry again so Joiner is going to say here that they alleged many outrageous things about the ministry that were certainly not true Joiner wrote in a statement none of the leaders of Morning Star were charged with anything or were involved in any of this according to Catherine mother Karen Reed Karen readed sexual predation was a betrayal by someone who women looked up to as a spiritual leader Karen said she prayed 10 years about moving her family to Morning Star Community Katherine remembered she was 17 when she became attending Morning Star Fellowship I had my first prophetic in experience here everything with my spiritual mentoring started at Morning Star Katherine then went to several prophetic conferences over the years here and included the advanced prophetic conference in 2020 where Reed spoke when Reed moved to Morning Star in 2021 the pastor and prepared to take over join her as CEO Katherine said she met Reed for the first time then in November 2021 Reed privately messeng her on Facebook open up the conversation about prophecy about her I really wanted to tell her that I feel today that you came through a rough season successfully at some point he wrote in a private Facebook message but if you are getting a second wind and gaining Traction in your destiny a few texts later Reed said she was special I've got to know few students but he wrote but I think there is something special about you so let's just talk right here okay so basically a you shouldn't be privately individually texting another female uh you could possibly minister to people publicly to another female but this went foul when the communication started happening outside of ministry outside of church I know that in my case a lot of times if I'm texting a married woman I'll make sure that her husband is included in the text or if I'm marrying if I'm talking to another woman I will always try to do that publicly or have someone else be a witness to the interaction because you could find yourself in tricky situations Okay so you don't want to start chatting with people particularly late night a lot of times people would be texting or getting on social media it's not the place for it that this all could have been avoided by not directly communicating outside the ministry hours and even during the ministry that happens even in a public context ministering in teams of two so that you're not building intimacy that you're not building dependency emotional connections with other people so then it seems like Chris Reed starts telling her he's going to be taking over for join her as the CEO then 2 days later he saw and sensed that she was struggling then he gave her his personal phone number telling her not to share it with anyone else I can't extend my time personally to everyone he wrote but I feel like I am for you she said he later asked to store his number in her phone under a different name she would later see his prophecy text and other spiritual conversations with him as manipulation that quickly escalated into a physical relationship so that should be noted here too if people are using their spiritual gift particularly in the case of Prophecy okay I've been very concerned with Chris Reed from day one I had spoken to my parents about this and said guys I just don't have a good feeling about this guy he's prophesying some really bold things some really outrageous things and I'm really concerned I talk to my pastor about it I talk to to many other people about it I'm concerned with this guy and pretty much all across the board I got blown off people had said you know that maybe I was off that Chris Reed was legitimate and listen I'm not saying that he doesn't have any gift but using a gift in this case was spiritual manipulation as well we saw that in the Mike Bickle situation using spiritual gifts to get a date is a whole another level of privity depravity that should be considered in his restoration at all okay so we're almost done with this text he gave me this false word of knowledge he said and then I got sucked into it and the manipulation started so she's saying that Chris Reed gave her a false word in my first video I went over a word that he got wrong that was definitely a false word he sometimes later sent Catherine money which he verified by showing the Roy's report $250 gift from read in her cash app he visited her class he said he text her that she looks sexy he used the Bible to explain the Temptation wow interesting then things started getting me concerned when he just started justifying the relationship he would compare himself to David in the Bible okay so we saw this with the Mike Bickle situation that he had with Jane Doe he started talking about this Narrative of David and sharing that with Jane Do's brother and everything it's this is this is Distortion at a whole another level folks it's it it just is she also said in a December 8 journal entry with the Roy's report that she said she had fallen in love with a man who was already spoken for I've compromised my moral compass and given into my flesh over and over again I am a foolish woman I wish I could write his name but I cannot okay so that should be noted too that Chris is a married man she not even just committing a sin against Chris she's also was this this would this situation would also hurt Chris's r as well so it's good to see that uh Katherine is acknowledging that Katherine told the Roy's report that after the sexual touching in Reed's van she and Reed started pulling away from each other but by late December they mutually decided to end things but not to tell anyone but in February two Morning Star leaders Justin par and Tom Hartman called Catherine in for a disciplinary meeting Catherine saided she said she struggled with addiction and had a marijuana joint in her car that she smoked to help her with anxiety Catherine had intended to share that with them but what happened with Reed ended up telling them about the kissing in the car she said she showed them sexually explicit text messages from Reed including one where she went to him to tie her to the bed to do seual acts to her Karen attended the meeting with the leaders too and confirmed this neither Perry nor Hartman immediately returned messages the Roy's report said Hartman now directs Morning Star Ministry and Perry is no longer an employee with the company a few days later Joiner invited Catherine and Karen to meet with him Perry and Hartman to explain what happened Catherine said she disclosed all the genital touching to join her aren said join Joiner was compassionate to her to her daughter offering for counseling money but he did say either you trust us or you don't Karen said despite allegations Joiner resigned as Morning Star CEO in 2023 as Reed assumed the top leadership role Katherine said she hadn't intended to speak publicly I have my tongue almost for 3 years she said but you know when you're waiting and you're praying and it's almost like you're waiting for a breakthrough for so long you kind of forget about it but she said when the Roy's report called her on Wednesday following an anonymous a tip she believed it was an invitation by God to finally speak I feel like God woke me up this morning in preparation for your phone call and it was like oh hey my daughter put your armor on this morning let's go okay so was Brave of Catherine to come forward okay and it should be mentioned that we are in a season of cleansing in the church we are in a season of exposure we are seeing here high-profile moral failures all across the board not just with leaders this here which Chris is Minister of the five-fold ministry according to himself is a prophet okay so basically this is very serious there is also this Scandal and this lawsuit going on at Morningstar Ministries which is suing multiple people this is going to be a massive lawsuit and so this is going to be a very difficult thing for a Morning Star to survive Joiner is in his older age at this point he fell on a motorcycle not that long ago and was hurt pretty bad and since then has really not been the same so he's going to be in a situation where he's a lot older at this point having to take over a Ministry that is being sued and also the the the buzz that's going to come from this Chris Reed situation again these people did not come forward on their own and come forward with this information both in Rick and Chris's cases they had to be prompt and pressure applied against them in order for them to do the right thing that shows a double layer of sin and listen this is a warning to the body of Christ this is a warning to the ministry to five-fold leaders to people out there if you are not living right you've got to get right with the Lord and you've got to come forward and you've got to get things right and you've got to straighten things out you might have to get counseling you might have to go into some type of program you might have to read some books and go into Ministry and get prayed for and confess your sins and it'll be embarrassing for a moment but you don't want to find yourself in a situation where you end up in a spiritual position or a spiritual role with your character cannot sustain you because those private struggles will then become public struggles and those private failures will then become PRI public failures and it'll be even more embarrassing so God sometimes gives these people extra time to repent to come forward and there is a time when God says no more and decides that these things are going to be exposed and that is what's happening in this situation I feel stupid for giving um Chris um Grace in the last video and I really shouldn't have I really should have seen that more was uncovering here I want to try to use a truth Grace approach on this channel I want to try to keep the truth of of speaking the truth but also have all of my um language seasoned with Grace a lot of people think that I'm being permissible or a lot of people people think that I'm sticking up for Rick Joiner and Chris Reed I'm not I have serious concerns with their Ministry I don't recommend you follow them but I did want to be graceful to them because both of these men have been committed to the ministry for some for some time and so I wanted to leave that into consideration book of Timothy in second Timothy says that those that are in leadership should be gentle and patient with people especially with there in Era that a leader should not be inv involved in quarrelsome and fighting should be peaceful in temperament and then when he finds people in Era is going to be gentle in his approach is going to be patient as they're coming to learn to see the truth and because that chapter goes on to say because we hope these people will come out of the sin and be restored and if we're too harsh with people if we don't show any Grace then we're going to hinder their ability to be restored and when I say be restored I mean individually not to Ministry okay so right now we should be talking about Chris's individual restoration him being restored to the church not to Ministry he needs to take a break he needs to get healed set free maybe some counseling and uh in some cases it should take a long time uh Pastor from Assemblies of God church called me somebody who works in their corporate office and said listen in Assemblies of God if a pastor is caught in any type of situation like this they get a minimum rip for 5 years and I agree with that philosophy because I don't think restoration could be done for these deeper issues in one month two month even in a year or two this requires a long period of time of getting counseling of soul searching of really maybe getting some inner healing and deliverance maybe getting pastorial counseling professional Counseling in some cases medication um so the truth is is that uh you can't be restored one two three okay so in the Assemblies of God they go through a fiveyear process and then those pastors could be restored okay so the truth is is that yep so thank you for watching today I appreciate you coming through leave your comments Down Below on how you're feeling people were reaching out to me from Morning Star former staff even current staff to let me know what's going on down there but I won't report anything that is not public knowledge I'm only sticking to the truth so let me know your comments people are watching I got video watch from Iceland the Netherlands um UK uh I never had anyone from Iceland before that was a shock but morning storm Ministries has a global wret this is not a local Ministry although they have a local church morning storm Ministry has a global reach around the world and that's why this is a public issue this is not a local church issue so that should also will be meant here today so I'm going to close the video comment down below if you want to support the channel so I can continue doing a Ministry like this so I can continue to be a bold Voice of Truth to to tackle controversial and tough subjects please consider supporting the ministry giving a one-time gift or becoming a monthly partner you can find that information below and I'd appreciate that so remember Christianity is three things as far as I'm concerned it is to love God with all your heart mind and soul it's to love him with your whole heart as Jesus said it's to take that love that goes inside of you and then you go outwardly with that love you love other people if you love God you will love other people if you don't love other people correctly you don't truly love God because they're mutually exclusive they can't be separated when we love God that's going to go outward and flow outward and love other people and so if we're having problems in that like in this situation with Chris he's causing himself to be in an adulterous situation he has to go back into the prayer closet and say God what did I miss with you because that didn't translate outwardly and then thirdly is the Great Commission it is to go out into all the world preach the gospel message the good news that Jesus died buried was resurrected on the third day raised up by God raised up to life so that you could be set free from sin that you could be be set free from guilt and shame and given eternal life that God can give you the Holy Spirit put his Spirit on you give you a purpose for this life and he'll be someone to guide you through this life a source of inspiration that lives inside of you that is in your heart that God will guide you through his Bible through Ministries and different things so if you have not been saved turn to Jesus Christ it'll be the best decision that you ever made but for Christians we want to go out and tell other people about that message we want to tell other people Jesus Loves You this is the main point of Christianity nine out of 10 Christians do not tell anybody about their relationship with Jesus do that today folks amen e