Colbert Accidentally HUMILIATES CNN Host As Audience LAUGHS

hilarious moment unintentionally on coar the only funny moments that happen on Stephen coar show are unintentional these days but Caitlyn Collins uh at CNN stopped by Co Bear's Late Night show and uh this exchange was really beautiful let's roll the clip Trump has kind of been thrown on his Heels by this and he's not really sure how to go after vice president Harris he knew his attack lines on President Biden he really has struggled with how to how to go after someone who's 20 years younger than him who is a different gender A different race it's kind of been this moment where he has not been able to coales around a single attack line I know you guys are objective over there that you just report the news as it is oh I know a CNN makes a I know that's supposed to be a la L it wasn't supposed to be but uh I guess it is it's just brutal it's so brutal his audience thinks that he's making a joke but he was being serious which reflects so poorly on him in so many different ways not just on CNN obviously it reflects on CNN but also just on Steven kar's ability to deliver a joke these days well maybe he's just such a funny guy that everything he says is funny it's always funny but it it's it shows kind of how partisan colar has gotten I know that he didn't understand how that that would land zero self-awareness with his own audience right like he's he's in such a bubble that he that's such a good point he's in such a thick bubble that the his awareness of what's funny and what's not is like shot yeah and his connection to the way that people are viewing places like like CNN uh Caitlyn Collins seems to be more in touch actually because she seemed to genuinely think that he was making fun of her yeah she was like oh wait a minute you but then it's almost more embarrassing the other direction but she is interesting herself right I mean she's she came from conservative media yeah um in a journey to CNN which is not it's it's more common to come from like the new Republic or something but to become a star yeah um that's not too common is it to come from conservative she's the only person that's done it basically she she Daily Caller she was um yeah I don't know if Sager's ever mentioned this before but yeah they they were colleagues at the caller I knew Caitlyn um like Caitlyn so she's had a very interesting path talking about her like she's dead yeah well The Daily call Caitlyn is definitely not no longer with us um but it's almost unheard of I can't think of anybody who's gone from uh such a like she was a kind of rank and file caller blogger um to such a high level of Superstar to at CNN where she's like anchoring Prime Time shows and going on Co bear um very much unheard of but Costa started the National Review but he was but he was always a reporter first at National Review and actually when I was at the hubing post we always had like one or two conservatives that would cover conservatives uh we tried to hire we had John Ward um we tried to hire uh Costa at one point he ended up going to the post instead and since become like a star reporter and he's on TV a lot yeah oh yeah yeah definitely but not like Caitlin Collins although he got a Biden interview the other day um Costa did but he's yeah similar a lot of people in conservative media would would Grumble heavily about both of them saying the only way really it's it's actually an advantage to come into liberal media as someone who was at conservative media and was a conservative because it kind of allows you to bring in all of those sources and also uh that's why we would hire them yeah right yeah exactly and then also sort of with added credibility trash the right so that's the kind of pattern that people on the right would would Grumble about and speaking of the Republican party and the conservative movement's relationship with the so-called mainstream media let's roll this next clip because I think it'll drive this conversation in an even more interesting Direction what's your overall advice about like how Democrats can sort of what's your take on how Democrats can sort of balance the field I think the most important thing is not to confer all of our all the legitimacy onto the mainstream media as if they're advocating for us I mean they are they are so not on our team that they bend over backwards to to show difference to Republicans I mean there were I think something like 69 Hillary's email stories and the lead up to the 2016 election and so like these are these are people who are not only not on our team but they're they're broadcasting that they're not on our team and yet we have we have independent Progressive media like crooked media like what I do and like so many others in this space who are showing that that we are willing and able to to pick up the mantle for where the media is dropping the ball and we have to be able to be able to combat what the right has done I mean from the days of Rush limbo all the way to today with Fox News and O and Newsmax and daily wire and just the the vast ecosystem of of the right we we have to be able to push back and by relying solely or or only legitimizing mainstream media sources we're not going to get there yeah I don't even think that they should be on our team because like look it's their their job is to report the news their job is help Democrats election no kidding right no kidding he yeah and John Fabro there is is right I think they they shouldn't be but it is interesting that that is a that counts as an Insight right in that world because it shows that there is this real Dynamic and you were listening to Brian Tyler Cohen by the way if you weren't watching guy without the shirt yeah he button your damn shirt he was down like three buttons deep like it was we were seen to that might have been four buttons even Lev yeah yeah maybe that's a new thing Sager this is probably what made Sager sick this is what sent him to his sick bed but yeah there's this there's this unspoken view among a lot of liberals that because the media is a liberal institution in the kind of Mill sense like that it is without a without a democratic go Democratic small government about an open in an open Society in a liberal Society you need a free press the Free Press cannot operate under an authoritarian regime you know therefore in this contest that they see between authoritarians and liberals non- authoritarians liberals in the old school sense the media ought to be partisans on their behalf because it is should be in their self-interest yes to maintain an open Democratic Society that allows for the Free Press to continue to exist like that's that plus then there's this cultural Allegiance where you can you it doesn't seem weird that um one brother is a CNN anchor and the other brother is the governor of New York yeah um that that's like that that the politics of that kind of overlap and it didn't seem weird to anyone by the way like that was happening in at CNN for a long time he was covering his brother and it just didn't really upset anyone until Co but democrats should also understand that yes while while there are all these like cultural overlaps and political overlaps and while they're like going Gaga over comma the last couple of weeks in ways that um must be infuriating uh to you and and or actually probably not because you're used to it um it's on another level though it is kind of on another level but you also can't rely on them like you know they're they they're their own interest I mean this or their own estate I think this is interesting to Jose these two clips by the way where you have Bear's audience laughing at the idea that CNN is just the facts totally objective um because they assumed that was a joke and the Pod Bros I guess favro is right so I shouldn't uh I shouldn't you know but he probably makes the same argument about the Clinton email stories uh whining about media being anti-left it's so laughable it's so laughable there are moments of Sanity in the media or Clarity in the media where the sort of old if it bleeds it leads profit motive or certain journalists like Ken vogle is just a fantastic journalist and he is going to report out any scoop that comes his way um New York yeah broke the hunter Biden story last night so good he's so good and uh that still happens in corporate press like there are still flashes of excellent journalism and corporate press but every time there are people like Brian Tyler Cohen have this they they wanted they demand the authoritarianism of the press not reporting on Hillary Clinton's email Scandal would have been an authoritarian collusion between the media and Powerful interests that's what he's demanding from The New York Times and they don't see it as authoritarian they see it as Fair because their idea of what's uh newsworthy and what's not and that's why this collusion whether it's between Republicans on issues like Israel or Ukraine in the press and the Pentagon that's why these relationship should absolutely terrify people or it's Democrats on partisan questions like Hillary Clinton and kamla Harris being drawn As Trump said like Melania on the cover of time that is terrifying and to be to to see it through the lens that Brian Toler coh is very common among like the other funny thing he said was that he's saying they're broadcasting that they're not on our team yeah first of all I mean they aren't really doing that if you saw the Time Magazine cover they're not really doing that at all the different coverage of like the tax on tips I don't know if you've seen any of the like split screen coverage of how the media covered Trump's no tax versus how they covered K Harris's like it's just so obvious but he's also saying now that independent quote Progressive media like crooked is picking up the mantle of the New York Times that's the that is what he just said that Independent Media like independent Progressive media like crooked is picking up the mantle of the New York Times that is insane they're not doing anything like what the daily wire or conservative media is doing they're just talking on a podcast they're not reporting right that that that is true um and vog Ken vogel's beat over at the times has always been uh big money influence and he do he did a lot of great reporting on the coke coke Network you know back in the day uh and other kind of right-wing billionaires also Soros and others on the left uh back when he was doing a lot of that coch reporting if you noticed he was on cable news all the time uh since he started doing the hunter Biden reporting I don't think I've seen him on cable like a single time yep uh so and so his story last night I think is is going is going to infuriate Republicans again in this but be not be not his fault um so basically what what he reported is that the times he through through the times has been suing uh the state department yeah um for public records related to Hunter Biden's potential influence pedaling with the state department and the the way that the Freedom of Information Act works now is you need to sue like if you don't have a lawyer and that's why it's costly to do investigative reporting nowadays yeah you can't you can basically no longer file a foyer and get it returned to you like that that those days are just gone so you file a Foya they basically reject or don't really fulfill your Foya then you take them to court y after you take them to court they start dribbling out bits of information to satisfy the angry judge who's like you're not following the law and so that's what the state department was doing with this foyer request that the times through vogle had had put in um dribbling out bits of information and then they then they moved they said we've given you everything we have this case is closed yeah times suit again said no you have not we we know that you haven't given us everything you have because we have the laptop and here are these things that are in the laptop that that would be responsive to our Foya that you haven't given us yet so we know that so what else have you not given us so the judge is like all right keep giving them stuff then Biden announces he's stepping down and one week later they give they hand over a new trunch of documents and in that trunch um vogle had been looking for something that this um State Department official and in uh who would work in Romania had done but before he was in Romania he' worked in Italy and happened to find um a letter from basically from Hunter Biden to the Italian Ambassador saying can you set up a meeting help me set up a meeting with the barisma executives and this uh Tuscany dude yeah uh because they want to do geothermal apparently Tuscany is like the place to do uh geothermal and the Commerce Department guy inside the embassy is like a little bit nervous like we want to be polite here but like you got to love these bureaucrats they they they get that and they're like no this is not how this is they know it's not supposed to work like this the letter was completely redacted so we don't know precisely what how Hunter phrased it and what he asked for yeah but we do know from other emails inside the laptop that um that they were that barisma was leaning on Biden Hunter Biden to get them a meeting to get this deal going and DUS Tuscany the deal never happened um but like that like that's what you that's what you pay somebody like Hunter Biden for like y make this meeting happen yeah and crooked media is not going to report on that like give me a break they're not going to do the Ken vogle leg work and I obviously I kind of we are very supportive of Independent Media I think podcasting is an important part of Journalism now no question about it but to say that crooked media is the progressive independent outlet that is helping pick up the mantle that's the word that he used there that the New York Times is not that the New York Times is like somehow abandoning the the mantle of quote being on the team it's just such a bizarre they're not even Progressive they're just corporate hacks and it's again it's not like cons I don't think conservative media is perfect I think conservative media has all kinds of problems um but the Crooked guys are just they're just partisan they would even say here's an interesting point uh they're they're independent in the sense that they have their own independent sour source of um Revenue um from their basically ads that they run and their from the users who pay for their product and so that gives them an independence from the party structure yes and they used that during the kamla Harris Joe Biden should Biden step down good point Y uh to really go hard and calling on Biden to step down now and then and they came under like Fierce attacks from the party establishment when the wing of the party establish that wanted Biden to stay in um they toned it down for a day or two but then they came roaring back and I think that what they came roaring back probably because they got word that like other elements of the establishment like Nancy Pelosi and and Obama were actually which you know they're they come from Obama world were were supportive they're not of where they're going so they and they took a lot of flack from their own listenership um because their listeners were these like Ry or die Biden people now who are who never would admit it for a second that they were ride or die Biden but they all flipped to be fair they only flipped on Biden as soon as presumably their boss ideologically Obama flipped on Biden they it wasn't before it was after the debate and it's true that they were bucking what Biden himself said but they only flipped after it became okay and they made it even more okay but presumably they were they flipped after they were hearing from other people the highest echelons of the Democrat I don't know how in touch they are with Obama on a regular basis um but that world but yeah Obama's going to still call those shots yeah 100% but yeah and they're also uh not entirely independent uh the George Soros management fund has a minority stake in ccet media which is kind of interesting like they got a big investment from his investment oh that's right that's right the for-profit wing right yeah yeah like yeah 100% yeah but uh last point on the on the times thing the so anybody who has common sense is going to look at this and like oh the state department held this until Biden dropped out and then once Biden dropped out they agreed to release it vogle reports that his understanding is that they had they had actually already signed off on releasing this a couple weeks before Biden dropped out and that the state department moves so ridiculously slowly that they would not be capable of pulling off a conspiracy of of that level of like oh Biden's gone okay now you can Google the documents but and so I say that and so everybody can know that have that information but I also don't think they deserve any benefit of the doubt because it was their own slow walking that got them in the position to get accused of this malevolent Behavior so I don't actually think it was specifically malicious around this precise conspiracy but I think it was definitely uh driven by them slow walking public information that would be damaging to the administration mhm in general and so so you don't get a uh get out of Scandal free card because your malevolence was only on a general basis and not in a specific basis you're still acting in a malevolent fashion against the public interest and and against the the clear statute that says that you need to turn this information over and stop making us take you to court all the time yeah vocals reporting is fantastic on all of this stuff highly recommend was it was nice to see them the times actually now this I think you can uh criticize the times for the Times sent out an alert on on your iPhone sent out an email breaking news like really spiking the football and celebrating uh Vogal scoop which I do not think they would have done if Biden were still running MH and I think anybody and I and I think that's a reasonable suspicion mhm yeah that's an interesting point like all of a sudden now you're you're celebrating vocals reporting again yeah you've been buring the guy for years seriously seriously uh well that does it for us on today's edition of counterpoints Ryan's going to be be back here tomorrow that's the plan that's the plan um yes you because you've got unheard stuff to do we're not we're not trying to do a leftwing takeover of the show but when we can we're going to see see the moment like vevix that we are well you know it's actually just such a good time for that too I said uh when it the last time you and Crystal did a show together well it wasn't the last time but you did it one together a couple weeks ago after bid stepped off the ticket and it was also because I couldn't do it and it was perfect timing that was good timing yes but this is too because it's going to be the last show before the DNC and we'll all be at the DNC let's say we planned it that way I was that's what I was going to say um no Republicans no conservatives today but Sager and I will be with uh our our lib team uh at the DNC so hopefully uh have all kinds of fun conversations there you guys are staying in like a frat house basically so you know Sager Ryan and producers Mack and Griffin will be well rested and well that's why the show is going to start later several hours several hours later than normal so don't don't expect in your inbox at 11 all the more reason to go to breakingpoints decom and get a uh premium subscription because you're going to want to get it an hour earlier because it's going to be pretty late when we're out at the DNC yeah and the reason for that is uh basically at those conventions the the hard of the stuff starts happening in the afternoon and especially in the evening so that's the 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