Hasan Blames Destiny After Losing To Rogan & Daily Wire's Profits

the new media bias thing came out is this for real the first time I'm actually mentioned on the media bias chart they put me below I'm under Joe Rogan like I am the equivalent of do you agree with the chart like this has got to be dgg guy who wrote this list I assume D is everywhere oh no Israel is going to like accidentally bomb some civilians again and H be like oh my God it must have been a dgg drone operator like I wonder how much profit the daily wire is making right now s does seem kind of reasonable Adam seems insane am is that impression correct or what is this apparently Joe Rogan is more reliable than you oh no why is he looking like the Deep what's going on here I'm just kid I'm sorry I should what is this hold on the new media bias thing came out is this for real wait what there's no way dude there is no way contains misleading info ooh uh-oh you want to know something that dony told me dony reached out to the pointer Institute guy who called me a misin misinformer on the New York Times okay I think this list is from them the first time I'm actually mentioned them wait did he reach out to the New York Times and remember that article we read where they said that like some people do I don't remember the article but they it was something about some people are just as bad about spreading misinformation and then I think they listed us on perer as an example small businesses are a little different but they also need to suck the customer's dick in a different way small businesses can be really good or really bad that is true but the problem with small businesses you know how okay you know Reddit lay Reddit is always like HR isn't there for the employees HR is just there for the company to protect the company that's all HR is for okay HR is only there to protect the company don't ever go to HR [ __ ] if you're not [ __ ] up and somebody else is [ __ ] up you go to HR you know why because the company's interests and your interests are largely aligned when the company makes money and does well hopefully you're making money doing well generally speaking as a general manner now when company interest and your interest diverge HR will [ __ ] you of course but as long as you're in the right and you're doing proper procedural things or whatever like if your manager is [ __ ] up or some crazy [ __ ] happen you go to HR if it's going to [ __ ] with the company HR is going to [ __ ] the other person because HR is only there to protect the interest of the company but generally your interests are going to line okay generally speaking as long as you're not doing dumb [ __ ] okay but or base [ __ ] okay but that doesn't mean that working at a company with no HR or working at a company where HR has the same last name as the [ __ ] owner is any better okay Fu that small businesses too middle class small businesses employees and employers and you everybody okay reached out to the pointer Institute guy who called me a misin misinformer on the New York Times okay I think this list is from them the first time I'm actually mentioned on the media bias chart they put me below selective incomplete unfair persuasion propaganda or other issues okay oh no and on the right I'm under Joe Rogan like Joe Rogan read scare podcast Ben Shapiro the Ingram angle project Veritas project Veritas oh no I am the equivalent of do you agree with the chart these charts are dumb I like different people are prone to different things um and and it just depends on the type of story you're reading like for instance the New York Post is up here with like kind of reliable I think the New York Post as far as I'm aware when it comes to like T loyy stuff it's generally pretty good I think I don't think I don't know if the new y but when it comes to like more politically oriented stuff it can be like fullon 100% misinformation it just depends right it really depends on what things are reporting on right like the sun like when it comes to tabloid stuff tabloid stuff reporting on tabloid stuff is can generally be okay like TMZ is listed here as like generally favorable but when you're talking about like celebrity deaths and [ __ ] TMZ is one of the most reliable reporters I think in the in the world they get for some reason they know like 10 seconds before a person dies okay when they do and TMZ is posting it it just depends on yeah you know like what exactly you're talking about um yeah also this chart also is pretty conveniently skewing and that like wow when you're a Centrist with no bias you tend to be the most factual is that really how it goes I don't know um yeah I don't know of infow wars like this has got to be [ __ ] dgg guy who wrote this uh list I assume everywhere oh no oh you're getting food wait can you get me food too can you bring some Israel is going to like accidentally bomb some civilians again and ass's going be like oh my God it must have been a dgg drone operator come back for me please please uh some some [ __ ] Pepsi zeros and and Waters and and food please I'm dying I'm suffering I'm starving do you think that grade him lower because they expect better from him like your thoughts on handling Democrats my guess is honestly going to be that they're just not very familiar with his content and he's very far left so they just stick him down here because this graph will probably put every far right person on the very bottom and every far left person on the very bottom and lay Epic Center leaning people that tend to be more factually correct that's what it seems like like would we say that CNN is just barely left of center CNN like all of their punditry and everything is pretty pretty solidly left the idea that CNN is like right here like almost at the center of the bter only one deviation off I don't think that this feels like it was put oh that's CNN web I guess CN versus CNN TV is a bit further I guess I don't know also are we talking thees CNN the website does that include all the op EDS or is that just the reporting right like like these grabs are just very simplistic I don't know dog I'm lower than Ben Shapiro Jordan Peterson and all of the like National Review Newsmax o I'm lower than oan that's pretty wild what the Bro they're so crazy Breitbart is here New York pulls them like why is Pew research on here at all doesn't Pew research just do pulling do they write or do do they just do they do like original reporting or writing articles her pundits it's it's just like P like I don't know it seems yes they write do they like you aren't there write ups just like basically summ findings of their polling oh no no no no they do have reporting never I've never seen a PE research article about well wait actually oh they're just yeah it's basically blurs about the reporting I don't know it just feels weird to I don't know any like quick chart like that is why is acting like kassan isn't a huge misinformation what are you talking about of course he is when have I said anything otherwise of course I'm just saying that those types of charts are usually a little bit too Bri barter here okay this exactly are the policies that KLA Harris are going to what what is her Administration going to push well we now know apparently semor is reporting that she has endorsed the tax policies that were put forward in the last budget proposal by Jo Biden what are those tax policies those tax policies include a 28% corporate tax understand that's insane every tax on Corporation end up being passed down to its employees if you tax the corporation the daily wire at 28% that means our profit margin largely disapp that means we have fire people or we have to pay people less it's that simple or we have to increase our prices in order to make up for the amount of tax that we're paying to the federal government corporate taxes are double taxation because we taxing income you're taxing wages you're taxing pretty much everything and then you're taxing Corporation top level as well do corporate taxes apply to all corporate revenue or only to corporate profit it only applies to corporate profit right now you would probably have to raise prices a little bit to see a higher profit if you if there's like a certain margin you want but I mean like does it cut into everything else so 28% corporate it would really like I wonder how much profit the daily wire is making right now versus reinvestment I'm sure it's probably making a lot of profit to be fair but are double taxation because you're taxing income you're taxing wages you're taxing pretty much everything and then you're taxing Corporation at top level as well so 28% corporate tax they also want a 44.6% capital gains tax which is psychotic that is you sell a stock and half the money immediately goes to the federal government now here's the most psychotic thing that they want according to again 44.6% capital gains on what probably on that's probably capital gains past a certain amount however um is that for long term or shortterm there's G this is going to be bracketed off there's already two do we have two brackets for capital gains capital gains taxes is it three brackets 05 and 20 bro Capital games is oh was that was on 100 million plus okay yeah by Comm Harris a 25% tax on unrealized capital gains that's insane let me explain what that means an unrealized wait hold on a 25% tax on unrealized capital gains that's insane let me explain what that means in unrealized gains corporate tax or capital G tax you can't tax on yeah this is this was also bracketed off past a certain income amount but he's not going to bring any of that up I guess but what that means is that if you have a house and your house is aced in value since the time you bought it let you bought it last year was 500 Grand now it's 600 Grand the federal government wishes to tax $25,000 for the increase in the value of your property even though you haven't sold it that's what it means is that would the unrealized capital gains apply to your like assets like your house to or did they only want to apply this to stock or I don't know where they wanted to apply this too um when you sell a home for a profit uh on your taxes does that is that counted as a capital gain I imagine it probably would be right I wonder if like if you're a single residential home buyer if it's different um if I sell my house for a profit is that capital gains tax it is okay so your primary be exempt from capital gain tax on the first 250k if you're single and 500k of married jointly if you're a business you're a private business and let's say they you're privately held you've never G Market you've never sold your actual state in the company so let's say you own a company and you started say 10 years ago and now that company is worth a billion dollars but it's never actually been sold for a billion dollars it's quote worth a billion dollars now let's be realistic about this daily wire were a privately held company God I love that idea from that the scammer dude that the only time you would be forced to step the tax basis up would be um if you take it a loan against it this such a good idea because one of the biggest issues in my opinion of trying to tax an unrealized gain especially in a private business is and this also applies to wealth taxes on assets too who the [ __ ] is going to do the valuation like let's say for instance he wanted to tax me on destiny.gg LLC on any unrealized gain I have in the stick out company how are you going to evaluate my company what do you how what metrics are you using right but if you do it at the point where you're getting a loan oh cool well there's other people that are doing the valuation obviously if you want to loan me money against the value of it some a bank or somebody is involved in that valuation or um if if you go to sell it so there's a buyer right so in the case of selling a house there's a valuation right what's it worth well this guy literally wants to pay me $500,000 for it it's capitalism it's worth what somebody will buy it for um God that's such a good idea that for Step Up in basis there that means that we have not gone to Market we're not publicly traded nothing like that we can't even borrow against our stock because we're a privately held Corporation and the actual material assets of the company are not borrow wait Destiny what made you call Amman the scammer dude I don't know I just everybody in that se was saying this guy's a piece of [ __ ] scammer so I just want to hedge there I don't know if he's a crazy dude or not but his that idea was really good wire we're a privately held company that means that we have not gone to Market we're not publicly traded nothing like that we can't even borrow against our stock because we're a privately held Corporation and the actual material assets of the company are not borrow you can't borrow against those material assets of the company in the same way there's nothing to actually seize for example there's nothing to for close upon because we don't actually own a giant physical property for example okay but let's say we're a billion dollar company for the sake of argument we're more than that but let's say we're a billion dollar company for the sake of argument okay if we're a billion dollar company that means the federal government you don't think you could put any of the equity that you have in the daily wire up as collateral for a loan I don't know actually I'm not sure I I don't know what it's like taking loans like this um I've never tried it before but supposedly if you've got certain investment accounts you can do it I would be surprised if that was the case so they couldn't loan out anything in exchange for equity in in a private I have no idea I'm not sure this is high level finan [ __ ] I'm not sure we're more than that but let's say we're a billion dollar company for the sake of argument okay if we're a billion dollar company that means the federal government would come in and tax on us for not selling the company of $250 million the annual gross revenue of our company last year was $220 million okay that's crazy it bankrupts half the companies in existence it's insane it's patently crazy the um I don't [ __ ] man [ __ ] he's not an idiot right it's so the tax would be on the individuals that own the equity it wouldn't be a $250 million tax that would and he's not talking about the corporate tax right now he's talking about the capital gains tax this wouldn't be applied to the company it would be applied to the individuals that own equity in the company which I agree would still be bad but that's a lot different than um than than than applying it towards the daily wire as an entity but most revenue of our company last year was $220 million he that's crazy a bankrupt we also don't know how we would also do the valuation for that company too right I don't know what the standard valuation is it's some multiplicative of like revenue and assets of some of their [ __ ] but after companies in existence it's insane it's patently crazy I do agree though that cap taxing unrealized gains is insane but that's also why I'm not worried about it because it's such a stupid [ __ ] idea this never survives any committee this never survives anything in Congress nobody okays that piece of legislation nobody the United maybe for like over like 10 billion or some crazy like yearly cap or whatever like if you make over a billion dollars a year of capital whatever [ __ ] maybe but there's no shot that this ever gets P such not the problem isn't even that it's a dumb idea it's that it's literally unworkable you're going to tell me that the IRS that's already criminally underst staffed is going to go out here and try to run valuations on every private company in the United States for for taxing unrealized gains based on Equity like this it's never this is never happening even if it did happen I wouldn't be worried about it because it would be like we've passed this law and you'd be getting a letter every single year from the IRS saying this is going to go into effect five years from now this is going to go into effect in two more years and three more years we're about to go into effect in 5 year it's like [ __ ] real do they even have real ID yet I feel like I've seen I feel like I've seen signs at the airport for like a decade now saying careful you're going to need a real ID in one year a real ID is going to be a requirement have they even done the real ID [ __ ] yet is it finally passed because my God I feel like every single year I I see is it 2025 is it it's here and there may 2025 okay I feel like I've seen the signs up for like 10 years saying like you're going to need a real ID next year to travel and I don't know like Jesus hey why why are these people making these policies the answer is that they are making these policies because the good faith answer the reason why people are making these policies is because it feels bad that some people are able to avoid ever paying income taxes when they're able to get around ever having to cash out or realize gains when they can realize those gains through other clever mechanisms like taking loans out against the value of an unrealized game that's that feels kind of shitty what's he going to say let's see they hate wealth they hate success they hate businesses they want to own your life one of those po the answer is that they are making these policies because they have no actual relationship to the real world economy in which human beings live they have never created a job they have never innovated they've never built a business they've never done a damned thing outside of take taxpayer money to boss people around that is all they do all day long that is true at every level kind of like never before of the top line of the democratic party Barack Obama has never held a real job ever his entire life he was a community organizer and then he went directly into taxpayer funded politics none of those things are real jobs Michelle Obama worked at a private Law Firm for 5 minutes then she got a cush gig at the University of Chicago cuz her husband was in politics and now she gallivant around being famous wealthy and well- loved because her husband was President of the United States Chuck Schumer has been in politics since 1862 he has never held a job in the private sphere Nancy Pelosi's husband was very ricked but she has never run a business she has been in politics since before Socrates was killed they kept telling you the economy I mean like it's kind of true I think that if you haven't run a business you have a bad perspective on these things but also the people that do run businesses give bad perspectives on these and they lie to you as well you should know that anytime Republican talks about anything relating to trickle down they're lying to you if you give a tax cut to a business they're never using that money to hire somebody else that's never happening ever because money that they reinvest in the business isn't taxed anyway that's not influencing all when you give tax cuts to certain types of things you're just giving like it's just bigger profits for them that they collect they're not going to hire you hire an employee when you want to do more business that's it you hire an employee when the demand is such that the current employees you have can't keep up with business giving more money back to business owners doesn't make them magically hire more people that's [ __ ] [ __ ] but every Republican small business owner will tell you will feed you this [ __ ] it's not true booming everything was fine and now they're telling you whoop SE doodle here is the thing anyone with a basic understanding of Economics can see that the economy is not in amazing shape right now I've been telling you for years to diversify your portfolio with precious metals if you'd listen to me before you'd be in better shape now so now might be a good time to consider 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savings with gold that's been to 98 9898 none of these people have ever created a damned thing ever ever and when they say government creates jobs I want to go back to a clip that we played yesterday it's a clip ofla Harris the only question she's been asked on the campaign Trail and by the way we are now at let's count them yep yep yep we got to update it day 32 of no serious interviews for the Democratic Presidential nominee zero interviews zero serious questions but the one question that she was kind of asked about how she would pay for her policies like this is a thing and typically if you're in business you have to answer how do you pay for the thing you want to do you have to go borrow that creates significant Tailwinds that could you have to go borrow that means you have significant drag on your company for example or maybe you have to do it out a cash flow which means that you have to triage decide where the cash goes and where it doesn't go that's how you would deal with an additional cost if you ran a business har never pay for the thing you want asked about how she would pay for her policies like this is a thing that typically if you're in business you have to answer how do you pay for the thing you want to do you have to go borrow that creates significant Tailwinds that can you have to go borrow that means you have significant drag on your company for example or maybe you have to do it out of cash flow which means that you have to triage decide where the cash goes and where it doesn't go that's how you would deal with an additional cost if you ran a business K har has never run a business she's never run a Popsicle stand K haris has been on the taxpayer do I I'm being really pedantic but the idea that debt creates a significant drag on your company the whole point of of of acquiring debt is because it won't create significant drag drag the whole point of acquiring debt is that you know that the money is better spent now than just not taking out the loan and and uh you know like accumulating money into the future whatever that's the whole point in in analyzing when you take out debt to make investments in your business I mean it drags a little bit I mean you have to pay it back and there's usually going to be interest attached but ideally if you're taking out debt for your companies because you can deploy that money immediately in a more beneficial way than waiting for the future cash flow whatever right like since she left but I'm being really pantic but left law school and half of those tax funing jobs were created specifically for her because she was sleeping with wiie brown in her early career that's just a reality it's not sexist it's just reality okay I'm sorry those were her life decisions not mine so I get to talk about them she's the one who wants to be president of the United States that's the way this works okay it's not sexist it's reality Willie Brown himself has said so she of course obscures it that happens to be the case okay so I'm want to play a clip from yesterday here is a clip in which she explains how she's going to pay for these proposals youed some economic policies last week can you explain how you're going to pay for goes and can you give us a sense of what other policies you want to unveil going forward sure well I mean you just look at it in terms of what we are talking about for example around children and the child tax credit and extending the EC that it's at $6,000 for the first year of in child's life the return on that investment in terms of what that will do and what it will pay for will be tremendous we've seen it when we didn't the first year of our Administration we we reduced Top povery by over 50% so that's a lot of the work and then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits we know that there's a great return on that investment when we increase home ownership in America what that means in terms of increasing the tax base not to mention property tax base what that does to fund schools again return on investment I think I think it's a mistake for any person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate how you measure return on investment that would be a okay this is a good answer in theory so the only question would be do the numbers actually support our argument in theory that is true you can make big investments in your population and sometimes dollars invested can come back with huge multipliers a really good example of this is birth control um you get huge multipliers in terms of investing in birth control for uh poor people that don't have kids that don't become a burn on the system etc etc right how you measure the return on investment that would be a great question how do you measure how do you measure return on investment okay she keep saying return on investment now if I run a business I can tell my return on investment because I know how many dollars are going out and how many dollars are coming in if you're a politician your return on investment is not in dollars and cents if you are a politician your return on investments is how many votes you receive that's great but this is just a delusional fantasy like straw man she literally was saying that she wasn't talking about how many votes you'll receive she was literally saying growing the tax base she was it sounded like she was saying that by investing a certain dollar amount early on in a person's life or giving them the ability to own a home you're increasing the amount of tax receipts that you'll receive in the future because you're creating more productive workers that are earning higher uh amounts of income that now qualify for increased taxation that will make you the money back that you invested in them that's what she was saying now again theoretically that's correct what she's saying is correct in theory but now in terms of numbers I don't know I mean like you would have to run the analysis on that to see if it's actually right but you but she's correct in theory is how many votes you receive and so the easiest public policy ever is to take money that has been earned by someone else and to give it to people who will vote for you for receiving free public benefits that is the actual return on investment she's talking about that's not what she's not that's not what she said at all but we we could just like not address what she said at all I guess don't give as crap about the return on investment is reducing child poverty okay throwing checks at people does not reduce child poverty in any serious way absent the extreme short-term because it turns out that if you don't change the trajectory of income earning in a family cutting somebody a check doesn't actually solve the problem for more than the next 5 minutes to actually solve long-lasting poverty you need free enterprise free markets entrepreneurship Innovation job creation those are the things you actually need you also need like a more educated Workforce though that is capable of entering into that job market and making sure their children are taken care of like you know how important families are like but all that exists in the absence of government interventionism she has never run a business so she doesn't have to answer in terms of business she just hijacks business firms like return on investment to mean I pay off my political constituents and then the return on investment to me is votes but that's not what she said the reason that this is so ging is because the hatred for wealth creation in the Democratic party the true hatred and it it feels like hypocrisy but oh there we go hatred of wealth there we go worse than hypocrisy the hatred for wealth creation in the private sector in the Democratic party is matched only by the insanity of the fact that all the people who hate private sector wealth creation are perfectly happy to own a lake house like Bernie Sanders or three houses like the Obama family or be rich Asis like Chuck Schumer like all of these people are loaded they didn't get loaded by creating things they got loaded by redistributing money from other people who earned it they got loaded by seizing control of the levers of distribution that is how they got rich and then they turn around and blame the people who actually create the wealth understand that that's part of what underlies their hatred for Donald Trump they hate that Donald Trump was a businessman for decades before he became president of the United States in the of the mainstream I don't know also you want to talk about bro Donald Trump's background was real estate which is probably one of the most like tax advantaged uh Industries that you can work in there are so many different tax advantages and loopholes and everything else that like exist around real estate so the idea but whatever okay um I'm going to uh go downstairs and start our [ __ ] hopefully soon love you uh anything else with Dan in like 10 minutes ideally probably more like 20 minutes but I'll see you soon I've now asked you probably six or seven times in the past 30 minutes to articulate your position you haven't even given me the beginning of it yeah cuz I didn't prepare to come on this live stream and articulate my position PR what's to prepare what do you think what do you think what's to prepare I think you're a dishonest liar I mean that's what I think okay I I think you're a paid Shield by the Democratic party I think you are the one that is actually audience captured I think you are the one that gets a paycheck from Banna woo that's what I think ban wo doesn't even work for P I think you are actually I think you are legitimately rightwing I think you are legitimately rightwing and are biting your tongue every time you have to shill for the Democratic party I don't have any respect for you Conor that's what I actually think my God thank you well that's good that's the first honest thing you've said in the past 30 minutes so so why don't you ask me what I think about the upcoming election because I don't care you're a paid shill you're audience captured I don't give a [ __ ] what you think you think whatever Banna woo tells you to think still doesn't work for PV okay is why I could beong such no you're or does she have like another company now look that's just that's just my opinion okay okay I'm entitled to my opinion okay fine then I'll go ahead and illuminate you with my perspective because I think that you're wrong and I'm gonna go ahead and show evidence for why I think you're wrong oh my God show us show us a ban woo paycheck uh ban woo doesn't work for Pb oh she works for a progressive pack oh no he has no idea hasn't been working there for a month peaker yes let's F let's focus I don't care I don't care about focus on who does the paycheck from ban woo come rebell get me in Can Am I allowed join this reference to the election okay I don't care look you're a p shill why do I why do I care about your opinion so shut up so shut up then you don't care mute yourself defen yourself I don't care so anyways the the thing is Trump in 2022 tweeted out the fact that the massive fraudulent election would be enough to suspend the Constitution that's a deal for me you can't come back from it there's no argument that could possibly make him qualified for office therefore I was willing and able to work with Democrats to maybe get somebody else in maybe a I don't know a lane duck president but what's been going on recently is since Biden's dropped down Kamala actually has a lot of policies that I viciously disagree with therefore what's happening was almost the guaranteed like Rhino Republican protest vote in for the Democrats now I don't think I can in good conscience click the top of the ticket so how's that for a PID how much how much did Banna woo pay you to say that that's what I want to know okay hold on why would ban woo not want me to vote for a Democrat what are you talking about look it looks good when a republican comes out and endorses the Democratic party that's why they pay people to do it and I and my endorsement is not for sale well how much do you make from ban woo then why is that relevant to the conversation because she pays you out of rebellion pack money no she doesn't she pays you out of her own pocket no I work for PV a different organization that she used to work for what is PV what's that project PV it's I don't get any money from Trump I don't get any money from the Democratic party I get super chats from our fans and I tell them all the time I'm going to give you my honest opinion if you don't like it don't Super Chat okay look to call audience captured is ridiculous when you are literally taking money from the Democratic party I don't care who it filters through but you're such a [ __ ] I've asked you for your opinion eight times and you can't even articulate the first 30 seconds of it you know how embarrassing that is to be a political commentator who can't comment on your own political opinion it has nothing I me to be that a mischaracterization I talk for two hours a day about my political op but you can't do it in a confrontation can't do it where there might be push back your lies you're lying again let me explain what's going to happen what's going to happen is as soon as you leave he's going to explain his he's going to explain his opinion he just doesn't want to explain it to you because he doesn't like what you did yeah because you're a liar and you're GNA go on Destiny stream and mischaracterize my opinion well then just talk to me sharing with just talk to me then I'm right here I'll tell you exactly what I'm going to tell Destiny that you're a wussy and when you get confronted you shut down and you can't articulate your positions confidently when somebody is being abrasive or aggressive with you and so I'm sing that to you that's not a lie that's my exact perception of who that's exactly what Destiny wants to hear while you're sucking his dick oh my God yeah yeah as a matter of fact let me go ahead and ask that question can you he asked me which one of his debates has he done lies of commission or Omission on and I said I couldn't think of one can you think of one Adam what was that can you think of any debates that ad or that Destiny has done where he lied by Mission or Omission I got no problems with Destiny Destiny acted like a champ when you were on there glazing him you're blazing him no you're you threw us out as like a bone for him and Destiny like a professional just let it go wait so you're saying that I can't have that professional assessment of you that that I'm audience captured sure you're entitled to your opinion obviously okay so if I come on to you and you say well that's not in my opinion you need to watch my content and then I say okay well how about you go ahead and articulate your position so I can understand you better and you say whoa whoa whoa whoa buddy you don't you don't get to understand my position it's too high futin for you you think I'm not going to take that as dodginess and coward Conor Connor everybody knows that if you're accusing us of being audience captured when you have not even listened to our content that's that's ridiculous how can you make that Adam see Adam you're ignoring a huge part of the conversation where I listened to five minutes of you talking specifically about your position I asked you to confir that was your position clip out of context okay it was you stop okay I'm listen listen I'm I'm entering the convers I'm kind of really getting really fed up this conversation I'm gonna chill s I'm gonna chill this is what this is what I want this is what I want okay what I want I want two things okay um I want Connor I want you to and I mean first like this is a terrible time to have this conversation um but with you doing what you're with you like doing family stuff but I want you to say okay you acknowledge that you know it's probably not a great idea to accuse someone of audience capture or mischaracterize them when you're unclear about their position and then after you acknowledge that then I would like he left he he dipped out so sorry like just as we're getting serious we lose him oh did he leave or did he did he get disconnected I I'm not sure but he's not in the calling anymore so I just thought I you know you were on a roll okay I was going he's back okay he's coming back okay yeah I lost take a note did you did you hear I don't know did you hear what I was saying I heard this is what you want or this is what you want us to do okay this what I want you to do okay I want I want you to do something I want Adam to do something I want you to acknowledge that it's a you know mistake and not a good idea to mischaracterize or to guess about someone's position to a large audience when it's to you first and then and then after that I would like Adam to then expain what his current thoughts and feelings are about you know the election regarding you know where he feels in terms of voting for Trump or comma is that you both is that both Fair does everyone agree to this position I can do that Adam do you agree to to this sure look I can I go first and just you can go first no if I if I've morally uh aggressed in way that you find uh not good then disgusting is a good word for what I how I find it okay well well now I'm finding you to be pelamin gez that's a good one yeah that's not even a word but okay go ahead Google pelamin for me so anyways what what what I'll say is before I had a conversation with Destiny and said that I believe that Adam was audience captured because he's failing to articulate his perspectives and I saw a five minute clip where he was doing it I should have verified that and maybe and maybe asked and maybe asked a few people hey this is my understanding of Adam's position he won't tell me his position so how about you go ahead and tell me what you understand most recently for instance our mutual friend JM he's not going to do it so I'm glad I didn't go first no I just I just did I just used all the caveats and I said that based off the situation Contrition okay just so ignoring what Connor just said which was completely not within the faith of what I wanted look I'm keeping I'm keeping the look I'm not going to I don't need to answer to that we the this you asked a serious question s like will he admit that it's not good to mischaracterize people's positions on a large platform he didn't really admit that he he thinks that so that's where're in a Content neutral environment I would say that's bad okay that's fine I would anyway so Connor you failed to answer the question Adam would you like to answer the question that I that I asked as well I'm I'm an undecided voter at the moment let's mute Conor sorry there's a lot of background noise Conor so just I'm an undecide as anyone who listens to the stream will know I am currently an undecided voter all I said was I would vote for Trump over Biden because Biden was a corpse I said the other day that I'm Camala curious that I could very easily vote for Kamala Harris or Kamala Harris let me pronounce it correctly mhm or or Donald Trump I'm still looking at the two candidates so MH that's that's where I am that's where I've said I am like the last few days we've been covering Democrats and I mean I am I consider myself Center left as much as people want to mischaracterize me as right-wing I don't I don't have I mean I don't feel like I'm a right- Winger socially I don't feel like I'm a right-winger economically I mean we talk about mmt all the time we talk about Ubi the time I'm super interested in KLA Harris's policies on building more homes we talk on the live stream all the time about housing and how I mean we went through the numbers on the live stream just the other day uh kamla said she wanted to build 3 million homes and we looked up on Zillow we're short 4.5 million homes so uh if I'm going to vote based on policy I'm going to look at the policy prescriptions of both candidates and you know the those are those are my perspectives so wow do you feel like you're leaning one way or the other more or so or less or is it just pretty still pretty 50 F I don't think we've seen enough of kamla to really know I don't obviously I don't like the identity politics stuff we covered the speeches of the Obamas on stream I thought Obama was really good because I basically have the moral intuitions of like an early ODS Center left Obama uh civility politics type perspective I didn't like Michelle Obama's speech because I think she kind of throws that civility politics in the in the trash and plays identity politics specifically of the race and gender civility politics identity politics not opposite one each other but okay to the 9s or the earlys Obama but it's hard to tell we haven't seen enough of Camala Harris to know if she's going to embrace identity politics go more towards the Michelle Obama or lean back into the Barack Obama and try to win this election with Independence so I guess we'll find out right yeah I guess we will okay is is any of that unclear no I mean you could yeah can unmute Connor now or I don't know if he muted himself but I guess I okay does that answer your question does that feel like only answer no not only does it answer my question but what what it does is it also repeats the five minute clip that I sent to Adam and asked him about so so so that's where for me that is such [ __ ] Conor you are such a [ __ ] liar oh there's no way hold on hold I want to hear I want to hear Conor's full response uh the zoo has come to town thank you for letting us come in here yes sir sorry she she doesn't want to be on film guys so just cut her out of anything appreciate that man um I'm J Dance I'm vice president see okay um how long you I've been here since uh the beginning of July okay bro just find a PL or go and talk to the people first why would you try this why would you try this not making sure they're actually like okay with you oh man that's awkward why would you do this okay how you sir oh no everything yeah mean a lot of glaze toar some zero Riz and no it's not even about the rist they're just these guys clearly are either Democrats or they just don't like Vance for whatever reason why would you try why would you try this sprinkle stuff some these s en rolls just whatever is how long has Place been around about 4 years about four years okay how long You' been here uh a little over 6 months okay good uh the zoo has come to town thank you for letting us come in here yes sir there's a longer cut on hudge oh Jesus nonviable for office for me as a matter of fact I heard another clip which I doubt you'll claim is out of context where sitch says the only way that I'm voting for what is it the only way I'm voting for Trump is if they appoint like pedophile Satanist alien freaks who sacrifice babies or something like that there was a clip to that effect but the Democrats have not not won your vote right that that's a clip that I heard so I was originally because I felt like meaning I was originally going to be rude de S I was going to say the moral choice is obvious you know you're you're choosing between the lesser of two evils the Democrats are obviously the lesser of two evils that's what I was going to say maybe 60 days ago hold on I'll be done in a second but what happened was kamla opened her mouth and started talking about some policy and they're policies that I find so egregious that I can't sign up for them okay so we all could have resolved this without the the accusations of ly okay I agree um but there's a couple issues here number one I guess I'm confused because even if you disagree with like it's weird because you're saying that you kind of disagree with ad's position about the policy even though you sort of agree with it because you just said you thought it wait that's actually so funny wait where the [ __ ] is sorry hold on an act ual 8 out of 10 meme from Esports Batman but it's not going to be 8 out of 10 you guys [ __ ] you hold on vot for against Trump based on policy I mean I don't see how that's remotely audience captured you just have a disagreement on how to look at the election okay because I would think that a that a liberal somebody who cares about individual freedom and the Republic continuing in perpetuity would be more concerned about the things that I think disqualify Trump right but like is just what you said so like for example if Kamal Harris comes out I don't think this is likely but if if she comes out during her speech tonight and talks talking about how like we need to put critical race theory in every school Across America or something right I mean that would that not influence your position on the election no Not only would it but also on top of that I would have way more latitude for uh for Adam where I would say you guys talk about CRT Dei being the way that uh leftists infiltrate institutions she's basically talking about exactly what you fear the entire time therefore I don't expect you to vote for it obviously okay so but then doesn't it make sense for Adam to say that he wants to wait to hear more about what the policies are from both candidates hey what's up um I got a I got a actual decently Maybe funny meme from our from your hated adversary Esports Batman okay what did he say um here's a question first off first question is it a question or a meme no it's a question so it was a meme well it it's leading to a meme okay chill calm the [ __ ] down are you okay you have somewhere to be Jesus okay you know the absolute immunity that Roberts gives the president right do you think the president could ever wave that since it's supposed to protect the office of the president or do you think that's going to be like mandatorily stuck on the president president well if it's based out of sovereign immunity sovereign immunity can be waved okay so if the I don't think they answered this question so if the question is like what is the answer we don't know because the Supreme Court hasn't told us but if we're kind of basing the absolute immunity as being one kind of grounded in in the office and kind of being a kingly type power which I think is not an implausible thing to ground it in Sovereign Unity can be waved yeah okay I the only reason I wonder is because like um I wonder if Rob because I could see Roberts making the argument uh well if the president can wave his absolute immunity then there would be just as much pressure for him to wave it which would cause just as much issue as him not wav or something stupid I can feel I can see him saying an argument like that oh it's not a meme he'll never wave it they'll make pressure on him to be like yeah you can sue me well no the meme would be if um you know the documents case in Mar Lago right heard of it if the only way for Donald Trump to prove that he Declassified those documents would be to touch on some absolutely immune things would Trump have to wave his absolute immunity to defend yeah that's an interesting question so you what you're saying is you can't use it as a sword and a shield or or it wouldn't work as a shield here it would it would invite you right because it's like okay well I Declassified these really show us when and it's like okay well [ __ ] that's absolutely actually is interesting could he site to conversations that he had with his own people in the office of the presidency to help him because that would be insane right that you can use it as both you have like selective immunity yeah like like per sentence Oh I thought wasting meme you know what that's a really good meme it is I give Esports Ram an eight out of 10 for that one okay that's a eight meme it's a pretty good meme Esports what are you doing you looking at Adam whining yeah oh my God what happened to these guys how is wait I broke them here's what I don't understand okay and I could be wrong cuz I haven't seen a lot okay s does seem kind of reasonable Adam seems insane am is that impression correct or I I've used sitch is like the mother duck you okay where Adam is like the little duck Blan who went out and he got his little duck bill into something and he walks around and then sitch has like the big Wing over the little duckling and says don't talk to me or my son ever again or at least that's the dynamic I had when when I called him out and um and when I fundamentally crushed Adam and when I say crushed I tried to bury the with them and be super apologetic but they were big douches to me and so at this point I don't care but um I basically got Trump oh sorry Trump Adam to say he would vote for Trump between Trump and Biden and then I posted all those clips of him saying like I I'll never vote for Trump I'll never and he's like circumstances have changed and now because Joe Biden is such a black box we don't know who's in charge the Illuminati or something just to be safe I need to vote for Trump is what his claim was and then Biden is off the ballot now all of a sudden he's an undecided voter what happened to everything he said that you never vote for Trump now he's worrying about like housing policy and [ __ ] it's a total joke real quick I'm sure you know this when you do debates Biden didn't drop out of the running because he's like unfit for office right he was pressured well yeah kind of but he he also he dropped because he doesn't think he can win the election principally right or the Democrats don't think that we we can win the next election right I think he thinks he could I think but he knows he can't if the other Democrats don't think he sure sure I'm just I just want to be clear on that because a lot of people pivot because if you say because a lot of people go oh well he dropped because he's he's scile he can't he can't think or whatever like okay fine sure he did oh well then why is he still in office that's always like the follow-up question but he didn't drop because he's like mentally incapable of like doing anything he dropped because the Democratic party thought that he probably can't win the next election right this it is an important yeah okay I think that that's absolutely true and it's what he says in his speech that in order to unify my party I mean it's the same thing that like it's kind of similar to LBJ even though LBJ like won a primary contest he dropped out cuz there he didn't win by sufficient amount mhm um and so yeah I think that's absolutely right can I tell you what I think is going on I think when I asked Adam if he would vote for Trump or Biden and when Adam said right now I would vote for Trump I think there was a big cognitive distence in his head and I think he he thought that was a mistake to say that because I don't think he really believes it and I think he's taking out his kind of like closeted energy Trump energy on me and people like me like Hutch and uh and now Connor points who I just fought with about him not voting for kamla Harris and so like imagine just fighting Connor when Connor said like he's maybe not sure about voting for Kamala I I think there's a lot of like hurt feelings and pent up angst and stuff like that and that's kind of what's informing things but it wouldn't be so much of a problem if it wasn't just like a huge [ __ ] all the time but you know that's my take gotcha yeah I think it is kind of funny that uh in listening to them talk cuz he yeah he he you know he's trying to he's saying that like oh no like my opin on my own like he goes he goes we're not audience captured okay like you are we rely on donations from our audience that's it's like wait hello like he's just like saying words that like sound good like wait do you understand what you just said yeah it was just funny but okay yeah he can't really like handle when people push him on stuff he called me a liar and I'm like what did I lie about and he goes I don't have to point to a specific thing you're systemically dishonest it's like when people say systemically racist I'm like what what he's like yeah you know these days systemically racist doesn't mean you're actually is you just have the systems by which dishonesty happens sure and I don't have to point to his particular thing I just like don't know how to handle that [ __ ] they sound like woke lefters that's what they sound like and they honestly make me a little bit annoyed because I think that they're kind of funny guys but this whole Arc of being just butt hurt every time someone makes fun of them is is not doing wonders for them sure yeah much love all right love be careful bye idea okay my answer is 0.00001% B based off of all available information okay so what so my characterization of both of your argument is is that was I correct when I said that the difference between your guys opinion is that you're saying that you would never vote for Trump or almost never vote for Trump but based on Harris's policies you would just not vote for her potentially am I correct in feeling more and more that Trump supporters sound exactly like people in abusive relationships trying to justify why they're still in it and why they're actually still good guys maybe a little bit but like keep in mind that like abandoning the Trump train that's a really hard proposition because the enemy has been literally everything right like you're you're literally it's kind of funny but it's it's actually very funny if you think about it in order to abandon Trump you kind of have to take the red pill because if you're a trump fan you live in the matrix it's the Deep state is everywhere George Soros is funding everything the FDA and fou chair behind all the drugs like you have to actually take the red pill and be like oh [ __ ] hold on the world is real things actually happen for somewhat predictable reasons and it's not all a crazy deep States conspiracy and Trump might actually just be a [ __ ] [ __ ] and holy [ __ ] there's actually like yeah it's that's a really really hard you're ejecting yourself from an entire reality that's been constructed around you um yeah it'd be like pulling somebody out of like the ultra woke I guess Marx's Zionist [ __ ] but not not Marx's Zionist [ __ ] Jesus um the uh the the like the Marxist um what was the other word I was looking for post uh postmodern that's it the Peterson uh the postmodern Marxist whatever he calls all the college [ __ ] but actually I'm sorry I I thought about that halfway through saying that I walked that back in my mind it's not actually the same thing um it's a lot easier to get out of the far far left [ __ ] um because a lot of those people are just they kids they're [ __ ] no offense they're [ __ ] college kids 18 to 22 crazy radicalized college kids cuz they are cuz they're who cares they're kids you always when you're a kid you'll grow out of it it happens um so it's actually a lot easier for them to get out of it one because they're a minority they're way way way smaller as a percentage of the population and as a percentage of the party and two their children they grow up Gulf okay and the and the moral Gulf comes from Trump's tweet in 2022 in which he said that because of the revealed massive fraud in election even even potentially the Constitution should be suspended right anyone anyone who cares about like republicanism or the rule of law that that should be abhorent you're you're talking about the system of government under which we all exist what is this okay do people still have headphones is that a thing still oh I was checking my email okay so when Trump says that because of the massive voter fraud he is willing to suspend the Constitution of the United States of America is that morally offensive to you yes of course obviously you using right now do you do you have do you wear noise cancelling headphones in your home do people do that in both camps look I S I listen to Michelle Obama's speech and they politics drives me crazy okay so so I'm not asking you to vote Democrat what I'm asking you is to but one why why do so many people care why is it so essential who I vote for like I it's kind of becoming it's kind of becoming you don't have neighbors I don't think no oh wait [ __ ] there's a Topic's going to trigger the [ __ ] out of me if you're wearing noise cancelling headphones because of things like speaking other things around you just get um just get some circum oral closed ear headphones and that's going to be as good as any noise cancelling no I'm pretty sure that noise cancelling headphones generally Excel when you have to filter out a consistent noise so they're really good for like airplanes if you have a really loud air conditioner or some hum I think they're really good any kind of noise like that but for filtering out conversations I don't think active cancelling usually does well there I think passive cancelling you just have like something that like blocks your ears is usually um the best all these retards are spamming question Mar don't even know how noise canc works I'm not going to get baited though not going to get baited I'm not I'm not getting I feel good I made my computer work yesterday [ __ ] you you keep you keep going and this happens a lot I can't believe that the that the monitor didn't autod detect I think we I think I spent 45 minutes because I had to push a button on the monitor to get to detect in HDMI input holy [ __ ] dude for words and texts to get misinterpreted freaking out on each other even on live super angry and on live streams yes right okay so third one I found it's gas pills that's one of the third ones I okay oh my God I feel horrible I feel horrible sitch this is happening right was that a whole new setup yeah I'm going to do a new I'm swapping out these my streaming PC with this I will say though I don't I'm not a fan of the K well I'm about to give you an old man's opinion I'm about to give you an old man's opinion I just want a midtower case that's like easy to carry around I I don't know why that case is so [ __ ] fat this is not hold on this is not needed for you to so you can stick the PSU in the back why who asked for this who asked for this new graphics cards are [ __ ] huge yeah but that's the thing this case doesn't even give you like a [ __ ] ton of clearance for new GB I me you'll have enough for sure but the reason why this case is so [ __ ] bulky is so that you can put your PSU on the side what's the point what's the point doesn't your cooler barely fit because of what I just told you because this is the real case this is the case this whole area here Jesus what is this like 30% is just empty space just you could stick a PSU there Christ it's about hiding cables including room for pumps and radiators who asked who cares plus your mom plus your white sorry