Destiny Stumps Every Conservative Influencer In HEATED 1v10 Bloodsport Debate

hey everyone thanks for joining the space um destiny I'm going to invite you as a speaker so you just have okay we can uh wait for a minute until he connects and when he is connected he can unmute himself and speak can you hear me now destiny uh yeah can you hear me hello hello yeah I can hear you can every can everyone show by show of hands can you guys hear us okay just uh drop like a heart or a hello I'm muting them for a sec every single conserv should go if you de conserv every single one should go until the election this is going to be a walk through okay so I just wanted to create this space because there was obviously a huge event happening yesterday and um as maybe some people saw there's a lot of uh argument arguing going on about Trump and who he is and all that stuff so um I just wanted to chat with Destiny hopefully respectfully and just uh hear his thoughts about why he says the things that he does um about Trump and uh maybe share some of my own thoughts maybe he'll dance circles around me maybe not because he's a very skilled debater I'm not a live streamer he does this for a living this is just a hobby of mine so uh thanks Destiny for coming on and chatting and um yeah where did you want to start yeah I guess firstly uh wait so what is your current political affiliation or or like who do you like support or whatever like I'm in Canada I'm I'm actually in Canada I don't know if you know that about me I I'm in Canada and I'm conservative in Canada and you're conservative okay so I can assume that you support um Donald Trump or whatever yeah I I think he did a good job when he was president uh I don't think he um you know he's the the monster that people um make him out to be or like the criminal that people make him out to be I think you know as Brash as he is and some of the things that he says in a bombastic way I don't think he's uh um as bad as the media tries really really hard to portray him okay do you acknowledge that he led an Insurrection against the US government and and he tried to steal power I don't um I don't think he did that I don't I don't see I don't see evidence of him saying he uh in he incited an Insurrection I think I watched him call for peace on video I saw the tweet that he put out saying we want peace We're the Party of Law and Order like I I don't I don't think that uh you can ascribe Insurrection to those words are you aware that Donald Trump organized seven different sets of people to fake an elector vote in seven different states in the United States with the goal of sending those elector votes to Congress and then begging and then pressuring Mike Pence first with words and then with violence that he directed on the sixth in order for him to unilaterally toss the election by either selecting those electorate votes the fake ones that he submitted or by having the house choose Donald Trump to be the president president uh against the will of the American people are you aware of any of that I I haven't seen him using any kind of threats of violence against excuse me I'm sorry excuse me I didn't say anything about a threat of violence I don't know who you're talking to what you're responding to I just ask you very specifically for the thing that I just laid out are you aware of any of that do you are you do you know any of that I believe you said something about violence okay let me restate okay okay Donald Trump organized seven different sets of people okay in seven different states to send in fake votes okay to the uh to Congress essentially in order to pressure Mike Pence okay first it was words Mike Pence okay well first it was with words he he begged him to do it behind the scenes multiple times and Pence said no because he's not a traitor to the country um and then the second time is he called his crowd of people that he gathered on the sixth and then sent them to the capital grounds to protest um with the goal of getting Pence to choose the fake electorate votes that he sent in to Congress are aware of any of that what is the evidence for that though it's laid out in the indictments and nobody denies any of it if you want you can go to YouTube and if you want I'll wait for I'll wait 5 minutes right now for you you can go on YouTube and you could go false electorates try to enter capital and there are videos that will pop up the first one says Republicans try to deliver their own electoral votes to Michigan Capital there are people that are being charged in multiple States right now for perjuring themselves saying that they were the duly elected appointed representatives of their state to cast their electorate vote nobody denies this nobody denies this okay so you're not aware of any of this um I haven't heard of that story no that's another way of saying you're not aware of any of this so okay so step one okay let's assume that what I just said is true because nobody's denying it and Trump's defense against this is to ask for criminal immunity you're aware of that right that Donald Trump's way of defending himself was to go before The Supreme Court and say I need to be immune from Criminal prosecution are you aware of that well I wasn't following it that closely so no okay well are you aware that Donald Trump his attorney went before The Supreme Court and was granted uh criminal Pro uh criminal immunity for the first time in all of us history for an ex president that now the the office of the presidency enjoys absolute criminal immunity and presumptive criminal immunity for a for basically every action a president can take are you aware of that uh no I'm not aware of that okay how many videos have you seen of Joe Biden uh stumbling down some stairs or having slurs or forgetting words in his speech um well there's they are floating around I've seen some of those y do you understand that do you understand that this is a problem that you have absolutely noing idea what's going on in my country what's G on my let me finish please and then you can go you talk as long as you want you don't know what's happened in my country you don't know what's happened with my government you don't know any of the things that Donald Trump has been involved in but I bet if I go through your Twitter I can find 50 million videos of Joe Biden uh with this stupid open mouth or or slurring some word do you think that's an issue um well I think the president Being Fit is an issue yeah for sure what about being an insurrectionist I don't believe he's an insurrectionist oh what did I just lay out then that either doesn't qualify for Insurrection or isn't true from what I just said or if you want you can admit that you have no idea what I'm talking about and you need to go back to the drawing board before even beginning to have an opinion on this topic um well I can have an opinion because Free Speech exists so I can say what I want to say um first of all no number one no you're a Canadian you have no guarantee of free speech number two that's obviously not what I meant you obviously are entitled to an opinion I'm saying that was a shorthand for uh to have a well-formed opinion that merits consideration right you're not even aware of any of the major events happening in this country I don't know how you can have a strong opinion on on whether or not Donald Trump is an insurrectionist or not well I see what the media says about uh the current events and I see the media pushing and saying things like to serve his country President Biden should drone strike Donald Trump and to me that seems uh like not very appropriate thing to say for for uh you know as an advice for the current sitting president and that doesn't seem like a strong uh uphold of uh democracy or decency as they would say cuz they said decency was on the ballot if Rachel mattow told you that walking on sidewalks was dangerous would you walk in the street no then why are you citing me something that the media said and then giving me your foure do you have children do you react to everything like a child if the media says something you don't like it do you just take the opposite position without giving a single original thought yourself into what you're actually being told or is your entire ideology defined by reactionism no I no I'm not ideologically possessed um I agree with certain things that sometimes the Liberals say and I can disagree with certain things that conservative do it's not not like yeah it's not like I I watch uh you know State Canadian media and take the opposite stance of everything to say because twice twice a day a broken clock is right so it's not so then let's I think we can going back to the uh the Insurrection thing uh if I had if every part of what I laid out was true if Donald Trump slated false electors in States had that sent to Congress and knowingly gathered a crowd of what 50, whatever people and then sent them to the capital building in the hopes that they would protest to pressure the fake electors being chosen do you think any of that qualifies as an insurrection would I have to be an expert in in Insurrection law to state state that one way or another but you don't have to be an you don't have to be an expert in Insurrection law to say confidently that it wasn't well perhaps you're right about that but um I you know I like I said I refer to his actual words um that he put out on social media and on video saying that he's requesting for peace you understand that that came after he was begged for hours while he and his crony corrupt Giuliani made phone calls to sitting Congressman inside of the lock down building right that he was calling them pressuring them to delay the certification of the vote it was hours after that that he finally went on Twitter when the Insurrection had failed and said okay guys we need to go home uh well like I said I wasn't following at 247 then why do you have an opinion on it you you w following 247 you were following at 0 you have no idea what happened on any of this why do you why do you think you should have an opinion on any of this well I told you I can have an opinion if I want you can but but then you people should like make fun of you and like Bully the you for it right you have literally no idea about any of this it wasn't that what our original tweet was over is that I think I called you a didn't I call you a hack it seems like I was correct right you have absolutely no idea about literally any of these issues yes okay maybe I haven't followed the case as closely as you have hold on not closely you don't even have any idea you have concept you don't know anything about what I'm talking you don't even know what an electoral vote is do you of course I do of course I do it's it's what the United States has for their electoral process we have a similar process here in Canada it's not majority vote it's not democracy it's a constitutional republic okay if you know what an electoral vote is do you think it's acceptable for people to try to fake them like Donald Trump did in seven different states well like I said what is the evidence that he faked those what what is your evidence for that what would you want to see what if I could show you hypothetically uh seven different uh certifications filled out with false selectors um I can send you a YouTube video uh of of this of these people literally Gathering outside in Michigan and the courthouse um hold on here's a here's a here's a YouTube video uh for that I can go on obsidian and I can find you the um if anybody has a quick link to the uh like they have photographs of all of the of all the fake things that they filled out pretending that they were they also have photo they also have photographs um and video of people you know stuffing ballots and bringing out bags in security footage from uh places where people voting and they were putting up tarps over the windows and are you aware are you aware that every single one of those was investigated um and that every single one of those was heard before a court and that they every single one of these except for one was shot down a lot of them by conservative judges that Trump himself or at least his administration appointed uh well like I said I wasn't following this case 24/7 so no I wasn't following the procedures that came out of that okay but you you've seen pictures of it right are you embarrassed or ashamed that you've had like strong opinions about this because of pictures that you've seen because of like Elon Musk feeding you lies on Twitter Dustin you don't have to be that rude I'm being really respectful hold no no no wait wait I just hold on I just I I need you to understand something so much okay you're not being respectful you're actually evil okay this idea that you can walk around and as long as that's great I don't care the idea that you can walk around and as long as you say the worst type of [ __ ] imaginable in a nice enough voice that you should be treated with respect is absurd right in no other function in life would anybody ever be treated that way you have no concept of anything related to the Insurrection you have no concept of what's even happened aside from what you've seen I guess on Twitter on the media but you're out here tweeting along with every other uh insurrectionist supporting in my country about how Donald Trump is treated unfairly in the media and and and Joe Biden isn't fit to be president like you have no idea what you're talking about for any of this though hey do you think it's okay for uh Joe Biden voters to you know make like a life-sized uh version of trump and like put a fake Guillotine over him or to hold up bloody severed heads of him and things like that do you think that contributes to anything that's happening in the states nope I think that uh to the first question I would say no that's not acceptable we're uh were Democrats or protesters doing that outside of the capital building except instead of a guillotine of trump were they talking about Mike Pence and were they doing that because the president of the United States said that they needed to pressure Mike Pence and that when Mike Pence wasn't accepting the pressure he tweeted out that uh Pence has failed us did that happen do you remember any of that or is that another thing that's conveniently mind WP from your brain I saw that tweet so I saw that you don't have to insult me like there's there's no need for that um I saw that tweet and I saw some people uh calling for Mike Pence for whatever they were calling for him to be clear hold on just to be clear they were calling for his assassination because he wasn't willing to finish the Insurrection to finish the coup that Donald Trump and Eastman had set up for just to be clear yeah well I I don't okay I don't believe that a few crazies represent uh the majority they do so but they do why why would you say that the president called them there in a speech he gave them exactly the words that they needed he said that Mike Pence is the one who needs to toss the B basically the the the election for us he's the only one that we can rely on uh he told them that we need to make sure that our electorate slates are counted uh and then he sent them to the capital building to pressure the I guess the people there to to do whatever it is that they were supposed to do which was to steal the election but did he did he tell them to call for his assassination did he did he incite them to do that is that what you're saying them yes he laid out every single oh okay I'm sorry ma'am so he needs to say the exact words you need to go assassinate someone for him to be culpable in that case you would agree then that there is not a single Democrat in leadership that you would hold responsible for any amount of violence right unless are you going to show me um are you going to show me some kind of tweet or video of a Democrat saying we need to kill conservatives have you seen a single one of those um I've seen some crazy statements coming from uh Democrats I didn't ask for crazy statements I didn't ask I asked were there explicit calls for violence where they said we to go kill conservatives okay so like I don't have a photographic memory I believe I've seen similar things maybe not by elected Democrats but Democrat voters oh wait excuse me Democrat voters what does that have to do with anything I was talking about the president of the United States and now you're going to appeal to an average everyday citizen like they have the same level of of moral responsibility or political cability but Trump did not call for his followers to go and do something insanely violent yes he did he called for them to go March to the to the capital grounds and to protest the certification of the vote in the United States of America to prevent the peaceful transfer of power which is what they did for some number of hours a protest isn't a protest is a legal proceeding you can protest peacefully um they protest peacefully I believe they did really how do the ones get inside the building saw a guy um I I watched a guy saying we need to go into the capital and people were around him saying no we do not need to do that there was law enfor enforcement nearby they were saying um you know this this is what these crazies are saying you need to do something why aren't you do some doing anything I saw Windows how did they get how did they get into the building uh well from video footage it shows them just walking in as hold on excuse me do you think that the first people that got into the capital do you think they just walked in well did you see them just walk in no they didn't because I actually watched the videos ma'am have you seen any of them have you seen any footage that doesn't come from Tim pool Elon Musk Steven Crowder the daily wire uh Tucker Carlson have you have you watched any original reporting on this whatsoever or have you literally exclusively watched whatever conservative [ __ ] down your throat no no okay so then let me ask hold on real clearly wait wait real real clearly how the first how did the first people get into the capital building can I can I respond sure um would you consider CNN original content or like I'm just curious if you watch any non rightwing like any actual reporting on it not like pundit do you consider CNN in CNN is a News Network there are pundits that are on CNN just like Fox News is a News Network and there are pundits that are on Fox News there's reporting which is when people do reports usually there are cameras involved and then there are pundits so people like uh Tucker Carlon or Anderson Cooper would be a pundit yes yes I understand what you mean okay I'm just I was just trying to clarify so you're telling me that there's video that exists of people violently approaching the building and breaking their way in is that what you're saying I you you're you can't you you can't honestly be seriously asking me that question are you not aware that it is uncontested that the first people that went into the building broken are you telling me right now that you don't believe that to be the case well I'm just asking you if there's footage of it that exists there is plenty of footage yes and now I'm asking you are you under the impression that the first people that got into the capital building that they walked in from what I've seen they were there was security guards standing they were people were walking in and I I even recall I hope this is accurate I even recall some saying I don't agree with this but he was just letting them walk in so yeah that's what I saw and I the only violence that I saw that was happening like broken windows or the guy shouting there standing I think his name was Ray EPS I think he was standing and shouting and saying we need to go into the capital and people around him were appalled at what he was saying you're not true that's not true you're lying and you didn't see that okay you saw that the night before I no because I'm sorry I watched all of these videos with Ray UPS it's one of the favorite of you conservator okay to try to blame everything on him all right to insult like no there is you need to be you needed to be bullied so much more in life okay Jesus [ __ ] Christ okay uh the videos of I know enough about you I know enough about you to know that your opinion is worthless and that you are one of the strongest Arguments for why there should be an IQ limit to actually get onto social media and Post opinions about politics is that is that what is that how Free Speech Works Destiny no unfortunately I guess not like are you for free speech generally good thing we're on a social media platform that's privately owned right now so freedom of speech isn't really a a topic for discussion here what do you think Free Speech means in United States by the way do you think that means that corporations have to host every single thing that's set on them well I view the space that we're currently on Twitter as the town digital Square so I believe Free Speech applies should apply on on this platform because no one stands in the Town Square anymore it's it's kind of an outdated concept so okay and if I declare your basement the Town Square can me and my friends go hang out there and like have some drinks why why would I care what your individual determination is for some particular SP online you you realize that it's totally irrelevant to anything that exists in law or the Constitution right okay so how do you see free speech then so you see that this platform is I I have abely no desire I have no desire to discuss this topic with you um maybe for another time but uh do do you you're unaware then because I can start linking you like video like for all the violent videos that you saw of people that were breaking in or of people that were fighting cops or whatever where do you think that came from do you think it was like just lifted from Baltimore and they said it was the Capitol Building or uh like there there was a crowd of people in front of the White House so what do you mean like lifted from Baltimore I don't understand what you mean for the people that were breaking in how do you think they broken I saw Windows being broken and um I saw people saying what are you doing and then I saw uh law enforcement being around and not doing anything about it and I presume the law enforcement that's there um on the grounds of this official building uh you know should have done something about it but they didn't and that was confusing and so and the people that the majority of the people were there as you said protesting under allegedly Trump uh directing them there to go and protest and be violent and whatever it is that you said like I um you know I think they were opposing the AC that were happening that were you think the cops didn't stop them I don't know why wouldn't they stop them because there weren't enough of them because nobody knew that Donald Trump was going to invite and send his whole crowd of insurrectionists to the capital building to try to delay the certification of the vote well why wasn't there enough like if people thought that he was so bad why wouldn't they bring reinforcements it's not really relevant to the to the question why not because it's not relevant it doesn't have any it doesn't contradict any of the underlying facts for example you know people like Pelosi and all no I'm sorry excuse me no that Pelosi has nothing to do with this if your strongest counterargument is well maybe Pelosi should have called for more guards to fight against Trump's insurrectionists I mean like what the kind of argument are you even making there like I don't think he called for insurrectionists again but if I said if what was he calling people what were they going to protest can can I just finish a thought for can I just finish thought so like if these people who we're saying Trump is literally Hitler and he's the devil and um you know he needs to be taken out or whatever it is that they said um like if that was their belief about him and they kept saying you know Hillary said he's an illegitimate president and all these things um wouldn't wouldn't like their first instinct like they said he's a threat to democracy he's a dictator he's this he not wouldn't their like instinct be to on the day where they would you know they thought that he would do something crazy to you know make sure there was enough guards to make sure there was enough uh people to stop some of the yeah when when when Hillary said that Trump was an illegitimate president what was she referring to you don't even know do you even know what speech it came from or what she was talking about yeah she was talking about Trump and she was saying he knows he's an illegitimate president like that sounds like election denial to me okay well it's not you should go look up the context of like some of these speeches rather than just going by the tweets that you see that are shed so okay so help me understand so I wait wait no no hold what I want to help you understand first is I want you to watch this and I just want you to talk through with this I want you to talk me through this okay at like go to 15:30 and tell me what what are we what are we watching What's Happening Here what what do you mean like you sent a link you want me to go open a link yeah are you want a computer or a phone right now I'm on both okay I want you to open this up and we'll just go to 15:30 and we I just want to watch a little bit I just want to watch together U I just want to see I want you to give me your take on what's actually happening in this video which link is it there's three links here the last one I sent you you can read the other first two in your own time or not you probably won't it doesn't matter okay it says okay it's 40 minutes long yep go to 15 minutes and 30 seconds we just to watch a minutor too let me know when you're there and then we'll start it at the same time okay I'm watching it oh wait what time are you at uh 15:25 okay wait we can start the S okay ready three two one goh okay so people are Marching with flags yep just curious what do you think they're going here to protest um the the results they believe that was stolen from them ah so they're going here to protest the election okay is protesting illegal I didn't say did I say that this was illegal no I said that this is overall it's part of an interraction why is this guy kicking wa wait why is this guy kicking stop don't divert hold on don't divert protesting in of itself is obviously not illegal I'm asking you what these people are going here to protest for I'm just curious if you have any idea hold on wait I pause go back to 1556 why is he breaking that window open when the cops are supposed to be opening it for them at 1553 you have an idea well like I said I watched them break windows and I watched other people telling them not to do this oh okay so okay well at what time you at right now 1554 okay we'll start again in 3 2 1 go oh there's the door hm oh they broke that one too that's crazy where are the cops here that are letting them into the building do you know where they're at at this point where are they why is there not enough it's a good question like if that doesn't matter though that's not that's not that's that's not relevant the question right now is what's happening outside how are they getting into the building before you told me the if you want to change the claim to there weren't enough officers there we can have that conversation but you said earlier that claim I'm that I'm not changing the claim I I clearly stated there was not enough officers and there wasn't yeah I agree with that yep yeah so we don't we don't disagree there okay why but so then did the people break into the capital building then or were they let in in some of this footage a few individuals are breaking a window and we'll keeping down a barricade okay we'll keep watching I'm at 1653 now seems like they're trying to push some cops back no yeah are you there yeah okay oh we've got o okay so do do the cops look like they're leading them in here would you do you have that impression you're watching they don't they don't look like they're leading him here at all okay okay yeah just checking like I can I can uh acknowledge when I haven't seen some footage before this is I'm not like I like I said I'm not ideologically possessed to say to excuse anything and everything like the fact that you haven't seen this means that you are so ideologically brainwashed you like in another dimension yes yes you absolutely are I'm sorry do do these cops here the guy with the Baton that's hitting the people do you think that he's letting them in peacefully clearly not there okay okay just making sure okay the gates here that are being pushed over was that by the order of the cops oh you see the cops walking back now do you think that they're letting them in peacefully now now are the cops leading them in or do you think they're retreating from position because there are 50,000 Savages that are in front of them that have all been riled up from Donald Trump and marched like a mile away to come to the capital building to protest the election results or or or were they just letting them in you have any idea okay so some of them were let in some of them approached without uh without being uh held back by the law enforcement okay well now we're coming to the building okay is this guy banging on the window the one that broke it there are these guys being let in right now that guy doesn't look like it hold on oh now when that guy jumps in and the cop is spraying what is that silly putty I guess it must be at him or whatever cuz they're playing games here are there already people being led into the building at some other spot at this point or the first people in the building the ones that broke in there's a few people that broke in yes the first ones that got in broke in correct um so so okay so just to get back uh no no wait wait wait first I want to hear you say the first people that got into here broke in correct the first few people it looks like some of them um were pushing their way in and no no no no no no what do you call it when you push through a material and you break it that's called a Breakin they broke in right so I just have a quick question for you um like you you seem extremely angry about all of this and you're fighting with a lot of people on Twitter you're insulting people on Twitter I am um so um do you think that uh any of what's been said by the people in the last four years like I said demonizing Trump um calling him you know like literally Hitler and celebrating um you know the people celebrating the attempt on his life do you think that that contributes to what uh to what was happening um in 2020 uh no maybe a little maybe 1% here's the issue you have is because your problem is you're saying too many people are demonizing Trump have you ever stopped to think well maybe he's acting like a demon people are treating Trump like he's a dictator have you ever thought that maybe he's actually acting like a dictator the fact that you're not familiar with anything that happened on you don't know any of the evence you don't know you don't Jack Smith indictment you didn't even know that the first people that got into the capital building broke in why would I care what you know you clearly know nothing about any of this yet you seem to have a strong opinion about it I don't think I don't I don't think that's correct I think I know some I think I know uh some things I wasn't following like I said wasn't following it 24/7 without sleeping or reading full indictments but it's or reading any any part of an indictment right can you be honest about that you haven't read a single sentence in any of the four indictments that Donald Trump is facing in the United States right well I guess it's only three now cuz one case is done hopefully it getss tossed thank God for the Supreme Court but can you admit that you haven't read a single word of any of those indictments can you no before that can you no no I need to hear you I need to hear you say that first so that we're on the same page and then I'll answer whatever question you want you haven't read a single sentence from any of those interruped me when I was trying to talk to you about him being a dictator you say he's a dictator he's acting like a dictator yeah um did he not uh relinquish his uh you know his loss after a failed after a failed Insurrection so so no he didn't relinquish it he lost his Insurrection attempt and then he walked away M even though he said uh be peaceful we're not violent and all those things you still believe that he you you not believe you you assess for that to be part of him inciting an Insurrection yeah yeah of course because I have a brain and somebody saying in one sentence walk peacefully doesn't magically nullify the entire hourong speech where he's telling people you have to fight like hell going to lose your country or that we have to pressure Congress to do the right thing and count the the legally slated elector so hold on no I just want to be really clear because in any other circumstance you would have understand this but obviously your brain is subject to the political cancer that has manifested there for at least the last four years right no a single sentence in a one hour speech does not nullify the entirety of the speech because guess what if I look at what happened right after the speech do you think it's a coincidence that people went there marching chanting 1776 on the day that the election was going to be certified and then they broke into the building and they the certification of the election was all of that just a coincidence so you think the words fight like hell is problematic but you don't see other words as problematic when they say C I'm I'm so sorry I no no I don't evaluate this like a four-year-old I'm not looking at one sentence or one word because I know what you you to say Well when they said fight like hell what about when Nancy Pelosi says we need to fight and what about what no it's not the same what I'm saying is that taken as a whole Donald Trump called people here on January 6th to do this speech while they were certifying the vote he riled them up he tried to rig the election and then he sent them to the capital building to protest where they broke in where they delayed the certification of the election which was his goal passion speech for his country is H is them riling ring his base up what were they going there to protest what were they going there to protest pardon what were they going there to protest they were going to protest because they thought the election was stolen from them unlawfully that's an insurrection no it isn't what do you think it means if you go to protest because you think an election was stolen well Hillary thought it was stolen Hillary Hillary gave up that Hillary gave up that night how many court cases did Hillary launch to challenge the election results can you tell me how many court cases was how many how many people how many powerful people wanted her uh you know wanted her kept out of power how many court cases did Hillary Tron Hillary Clinton launch to challenge the election results did she have an entire barrage of media and elected officials demonizing her and um doing the same thing that they're doing to Trump trying to prevent her to uh from being elected did did that happen to Hillary how many court cases did Hillary Clinton launch challenging the results of the election but did she have such a forceful uh barrage of like I said media elected officials and including their base uh you know just veniant opposing calling her Hitler calling her the devil you know saying all these things the Republicans had been doing it for years yes what do you think the email Scandal was about what do you think the Benghazi hearings were about by the way hearings that Hillary Clinton sat through gave testimony for like 12 hours and an investigation that she fully cooperated with not like the insurrectionist uh traitorous president that you support who invoked executive privilege at every single opportunity who pled the fifth at every single opportunity and who has now been granted absolute criminal immunity for some of his actions so that he never has to answer for any of the things that he said so to go back one more time I answer your question to go back one more time how many lawsuits did Hillary Clinton file challenging the result of the election I don't know did she file any not a single one okay um so they when did Hillary wait wait when did Hillary uh concede the election it was within one day do you agree with that I was following closely done so I don't know she it was called him an illegitimate president that's great I know yeah I know you got those talking points I like how that by the way I like that one sentence that's for you there but one sentence from Trump saying fight like hell and then afterwards people going fight like hell that doesn't mean anything to you that's very funny to me fight like hell doesn't necessarily mean go and uh try to assassinate a VP or uh break windows or anything like that when you then why is it wait wait wait wait let's say I agree with what you just said okay sure why is it then that when that started to happen and when staffer after staffer went in begging Trump hey can you call off your sycophantic Savage [ __ ] fans can you please do that Donald Trump sat there drinking a diet coke while Ashley baba got shot in the face in the basement of the cowo building dying can you tell me why Donald Trump didn't stop them if they weren't doing exactly what he wanted to do why did Donald Trump and his crooked lawyer Giuliani make phone calls to lawmakers inside of Congress telling them hey maybe you should delay the uh vote maybe you should push it back a few days why did he do that if that wasn't exactly what he wanted his protesters to do how do you know I'm going to rea the just so you know the conversation is over right here until you answer that question or give me an alternative thing I'm not answering another I'm not playing this game you have to tell me what was the point because it seems incredibly obvious Donald Trump gave a speech they went to the capital they broke in they delayed the they delayed the certification of the vote which is what Donald Trump apparently wanted them to do and for hours while they protested breaking Windows breaking doors breaking on inside he sat and he watched and the only phone calls that he made while people were begging him to tweet to stop the violence were to try to pressure lawmakers toay the vote tell me why he did that why did he wait fors give me one possible explanation that doesn't satisfy my story I'm not in his mind I I'm not a mind reader I can't ascribe motivation to his thoughts that I don't have access to Destiny oh oh oh that's great what is your profession what do you do professionally what is that's not relevant okay why do you think do you think that we can't ascertain the State of Mind of a person ever do you think that's just impossible you earlier you said that I was angry how do you know that maybe this how I always talk when I'm streaming why did you assume that I was angry no I've watched you stream like I you you you speak fast and you know you obviously come prepared you have your talking points so like you hold on to be clear none of these are talking points if you want we can spend I'm streaming until I got 4 hours so if you want we can dig as deep or I can even just link you because I've got whole documents that I've written on this whole scheme and this whole plot I've read every single indictment from top to bottom I've read every single criminal statute involved in the indictment from top to bottom and I've read basically every news article written about these indictments from top to bottom so no I don't have just talking points that's what you have when you say Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump was an illegitimate president and also I have no idea what happened on January 6 or in the entire leadup to the Insurrection for what Donald Trump did so no I don't have talking points unfair statement it's an unfair statement to say I have no idea what's going on you didn't know anything about the elect the whole scam do you know anything about Mike Eastman and the coup memo or what their plot was on January 6 what do you think Donald Trump was talking about when he said Mike really obscure that seems obscure to me oh well that's crazy because it was literally part of two of the massive indictments that Donald Trump is facing that he's probably going to get away from now because of the criminal immunity has been granted you think that the Jack Smith indictment is obscure do you think that the Georgia RICO case is obscure is it obscure unless it shows up in like a a Twitter headline or a Tik Tok video for you I don't use Tik Tok okay where the do you get your news from that the the most important stuff that's happened in this country related to this election and and the current ongoing criminal cases are obscure trivia to you you know that like the federal government hosts these indictments for everybody to read right they're not like hid that's I I would say that's obscure to a lot of people people that aren't terminally online like terminally online I'm sorry hold on hold on you think that knowing what's in a Federal indictment for a prior sitting president makes you terminally online no I okay hold on wa wa wait can you admit that what you just said was beyond stupid right tell me it is actually reasonable that it maybe for I'll let you slide cuz you're a Canadian [ __ ] okay but for an American citizen that's voting this you're Canadian and you are [ __ ] I'm just calling it as I say it okay can can you it is it is reasonable that an American I don't care I don't care I'm over I'm so over I don't care I don't care if you're trying to insult me or not what you're doing is so much worse you don't see how evil you are okay it is so much worse than calling me names if you were more informed and then you were calling me names I'd be fine with it that's okay I don't give a [ __ ] I'm done with the civility [ __ ] where as long as you're speaking politely you think that gives you cart blanch to act like the scum of the earth okay can you tell me it is not unreasonable for an American citizen to be familiar with what is in a criminal indictment for a past president that's not a terminally online thing to know can you admit that um I have to disagree I think most people don't sit there reading through indictments okay who do you think should maybe the people that are spoon feeding you the news that you conse maybe at least they should have to read it do you think what do you mean people spoon feeding me news people can consume news however they however they practice sure but I mean it's obvious for your news consumption you look at a you look at a media feed that feeds you headlines and then you read that and that's where your opinion is formed from so the people that are feeding you those headlines don't you think at least they should have read the inds no just one second just one second I don't need news headlines um I can assess information for myself when I see it what is the last piece of original not digested information you condescending about no I you deserve to be condescended to my country is is having a ex insurrectionist okay try to run for president and you support him so no I think it's okay for me highly critical how you get and you don't know anything about it but you have a strong opinion about it I don't understand where you people come from I don't know why you would be so confident that you think it would like what do you think I do all day that you're confident enough to come in here knowing absolutely nothing about anything that's happening they're like okay well I'll go and have a reasonable conversation with this person okay so I don't think you're having a reasonable conversation with me I think you're being extremely rude I've been respectful to you um I've indulged in clicking on link that you've asked me to look at I've agreed with some of your points um I disagree on your assessment you know I I just don't like I see you you know become extremely disregulated and and you don't even know me and you're telling me that you know you telling me all these things about me that I'm this and I'm that like I just I don't think that's is you know a productive conversation I told you you're you're beyond having a productive conversation also you're not the first you won't be the last woman to use a psychological term on me don't worry I'm immune to it at this point um term disregulated uh the fact that you have no concept the fact that you have no concept of any of the any of the stuff that's even in the criminal indictments do do you understand how absolutely infuriating that is that people don't even know what our president or or ex-president was charged with they don't even know you don't think that's insane like I told like I told you uh there's people who follow this case 24/7 hold on excuse me no hold on you don't get to characterize my position is follow the case 247 got to characterize mine what was I what was I incorrect about well you were using ad hominum attacks to you know discredit my viewpoints and not using I discredited your viewpoints by saying how stupid they were and then I pointed to the fact they probably happened because your of your news conception I'm sorry what point of yours do you think that I didn't discredit on a substantive basis just because I'm calling you names doesn't mean I'm engag to an homonym I can both call you names and substantively disagree with the things you say can you give me one thing you said you like iom is calling someone names and calling them stupid no I'm sorry ma'am but an ad hominy is when you dismiss a person's argument by appealing to a personal attack if I say you're wrong because XYZ [ __ ] that's not an ad homonym that's just me calling you a name after substantively disagreeing with you so if you if there's a point that you feel like you made that I didn't address feel free to tell me I will address it okay as I said uh I I don't think there's such a need for insulting me um that's I don't think that's called for but maybe we can dis agree to disagree on that uh at homonyms don't help don't help in my opinion but um yeah I'm I wasn't prepared for you you being like as as angry as you are I that was do you understand that from my perspective we are looking at a decent chance of the next president being a guy who at least from my point of view launched an Insurrection against the government that's where we're at right now and everybody around the world is so interested in defending this traitorous scum okay and then when I press them on it okay whether it's you whether it's the uh Constantine guy who throws his Ukrainian family under the bus to suck off Putin whether it's Tim Po who beanie is wrapped so tightly around his head that he can't process more than two sentences okay without saying something right that all of these people hold on all of these people all of these people he's subhuman scum okay that all of these people are interested in defending this guy and nobody knows the substance of any of what he's even charged with do do you understand do you understand how frustrating that is as an American who has an vested a vested interest in seeing his country at least not turn into an authoritarian dictatorship I think it's far-fetched to say that if Trump is reelected through the Electoral College like you said uh would be um what was the word that you just used authoritarian dictator why do you think it's farfetched because like I said I don't believe he acts like a dictator you don't okay how not do you think that for instance do you think a dictator would try to prevent the peaceful transfer of power I don't think he was trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power he called for peace he called for Law and Order he said we are for Law and Order so every single every single violent protester that was just random that they all went and violently protested the certification of the electoral vote well okay oh she's about to do the BLM thing she's gonna go what about BLM yeah go ahead do it do your what about I'm just goingon to ignore it so go ahead no you're not getting ignored although BLM did mostly peacefully protest with fires in the streets hold on do you agree that BLM was mostly peaceful no you're you're an actual subhuman trash you think that the majority of the BLM protests were violent I saw a lot of America burn under BLM protest what do you care and know about America you have no idea what the talking about you think the major there were like millions and millions of people protesting for for like a year you think the majority of those were violent you're actually deranged if you think that I I don't even know I didn't say majority I said I saw BLM protests that were violent I didn't ask what you saw on YouTube I didn't say I'm ask you the majority of them were violent and uh and anchors from Outlets that were reporting on the ground such as CNN I believe it was yeah I know I saw the same one yeah I saw the same meme image don't worry I've tweeted out before it was real funny yep I've seen it fiery but mostly peaceful do you disagree that it do you do you agree that you can call a protest that involves burning down police stations and streets and storefronts and where you know people have to put up signs saying we're a blackowned business please don't burn us down we support Democrats don't smash our Windows do you think you can call that mostly peaceful you know what cat whatever I would call that I would never utter it in front of you because you don't even deserve to get that concession you don't even deserve to have me accurately assess that when you won't even when you won't even when you won't even for a micr why the if you're on the left should you admit to or conceit to any of these things when you delusional unhinged cowardly spineless won't even admit to what happened on January 6th like the it's like the most opening case in the world the thing that when Donald Trump tries to defend himself he says I need criminal immunity not be in trouble here right so no I'm not even going to conceed to a BLM thing okay God bless the protesters okay they can go fight with the with the with the white nationalists in the streets and they can all go you know have fun with each other at this point Destiny Destiny um okay thank you for that toade uh do you do you see anyone that okay you say I'm not worthy of a response to to the BLM protest um why don't you have do you see anyone in the room that's quote worthy of discussing that point with you maybe you can I'm not I didn't I didn't come here to discuss the BLM protest so no I'm not here to discuss that I'm here to discuss the the the stuff related to Donald Trump and the Insurrection that's what I came here to discuss if anybody here wants to jump on that then sure yeah we can talk about some talk about B and protest some other point we can but I would probably agree with most them but the difference this is the left is generally willing to critique their side the right is beyond critique you guys are incapable you're unfathomable uh when it comes to critiquing your own side it is absolutely true no I have seen people criticize oh shut the f up no you haven't please stop please please shut the [ __ ] up you absolutely have not one tweet one tweet where somebody's like oh well I didn't agree When Donald Trump had you know a blue tie on and said there no red Power it's not a true critique okay get the out of here with that [ __ ] okay you don't have to swear at me like then don't act like a [ __ ] don't act like an idiot no I'm not going to sit here and pretend like the right criticizes itself okay I'm not acting like an idiot Destiny like you don't you don't then you are an idiot or whatever it's coming out naturally my whatever however you want to phrase it my bad okay so if if okay forget about the BLM you don't want to talk about that fine uh you I well hold on I didn't say I didn't want I I didn't come here to talk about it if somebody wants to do BLM debate some point we do it I didn't come here talk about the point I take it back I you said you didn't come here to talk about acknowledge that fine no problem um if if you let me finish uh can you discuss these points with someone who you think is worthy who maybe has for the ins stuff you can yeah you can voice as many [ __ ] people as you want in here 100% sure go for it okay so we have some speakers in the room they're willing to chat so um you know whoever if you want to put your hand up see there's Lauren there's Clint he came up first so yeah I just had a a quick question for Stephen because you know his his screenshots I'm blocked so his screenshots of his tweets yesterday have been going viral and I I'm just genuinely curious if he is at all concerned with the trajectory of political violence escalating um you know the his reaction his immediate reaction well I I I imagine that much of it was in just um it's obviously very inflammatory I'm personally concerned about the the climate in this country I think that we're inching ever ever more closely to a potential you know Civil War or something crazy like that uh is that is that a concern I mean you talk about Insurrection you talk about the dangerous precedent of Donald Trump and and where this is all headed are are you open to political violence at this point cuz it seems like it and I don't that doesn't strike me to be your character so I wanted to clarify I am very concerned about political violence in this country and the like road to political violence and you conservatives have been screeching for it non-stop so I'm not going to be the the cuck on the left do you your guys's terms I'm not going to be the cockled on the left who is crying and screaming for uh pump the breaks guys no no violence it's civility time blah blah blah while you guys on the right engage in the most absurd forms of reality denialism uh while you guys say that uh January 6 was a peaceful protest when you guys say oh the Whitmer thing uh that was all the FBI uh the PIP bom stuff oh that was all fake uh the uh like you guys won't take responsibility foring anything and you supporting literally the most divisive president in all of recent history and you guys are saying well it's just epic and hilarious when he owns the libs and when you've got Biden who is like when it comes to rhetoric the most milk toast guy in the world I don't even know if this guy has a mean bone in his body and the only picture I see of him posted over and over and over again is him with a closeup shot where there's red white and blue lights in the background and it's just the red and you pretend he's the dictator you I'm not going to be the one calling for the oh guys we've got to be civil like no violence no that's [ __ ] you guys can lead the way on that one because you sure led the way on getting us to where we are now well Stephen you debated me last year in Tennessee I was I ran for vice president of the libertarian party I'm not a conservative at all so uh well your ti raade May land with a different audience it's not going to work on me really hold on wait I'm sorry who who are you supporting this election who am I supporting I haven't I haven't declared any support really what what are you leaning to if I to go through your Twitter how many critiques have you made of Donald Trump versus how many critiques have you made of Biden what do you think if I a guess well seeing as Biden's the president it would probably be a lot more critiques towards the sitting president oh yeah but not the one that's coming in that's running for president that was also a president for four years I've been very critical of Donald Trump so I'm sure yeah okay the name of my show is liberty lockdown I'm very very disappointed in in the 2020 era so uh odds of me supporting Trump openly or otherwise are pretty slim but setting that aside I'm glad to hear that you are concerned about political violence in this country I I just at the same time I don't understand your rhetoric yesterday or your response to the violence you know basically applauding the the loss of a voter for Donald Trump in Pennsylvania it's uh strikes to put it not as hard as it struck that guy um just curious so I'm just looking through your Twitter okay you said it is a tremendously fraudulent case brought against the leading cand to be the next president uh you thought which of the four cases against Donald Trump do you think are fraudulent and why well first off I would say that the FBI document case in maralago given that you know Biden is guilty of the same crime if it is one I think that one's fraudulent okay just curious on that case what is the crime it was I think it was uh holding confidential documents after he left the White House right you understand there's an intentionality aspect to that right right you have to intentionally take and then knowingly hold classified information out of a skiff it's not just like accidentally taking it right you understand that a lot of what Donald Trump is charged for in the marago stuff is obstruction of justice because he told his employee to hide documents from Nara and then the FBI right or did you not know that because you haven't read that in dond but you have a strong enough opinion about it to tweet about it I mean that was a lot of assertion without actually allowing for me to answer uh yeah I realize that there's intentionality do you think that there was no intentionality with uh with Biden having hundreds of documents at his house I'm just saying that the two cases aren't comparable the huge aspect of what Trump is being charged with is the obstruction charge because he told his employee to hide documents do you think it's at all at all odd that that there would be this level of Investigation into Trump but not into Biden I honestly I do think that the Trump stuff was really odd I think the FBI should have kicked his door down a year earlier I don't know why the they waited so long they gave him a year to turn those documents over to Nara and he he he shunned them he ignored them he lied to them and he had his employee move boxes around okay like a feret running through a maze before the FBI finally caught wind that there was some [ __ ] going on do you think that Nar didn't give him enough time to respond why do you think he didn't turn the documents over when they asked okay same same question for you why do why do you have zero concern about Biden possessing classified documents but you're totally up in arms over Trump I don't understand going I'm I'm going to keep asking until you answer the question why do you think Donald Trump waited a full year to turn those documents over to Nara I don't know why do you think he told his employee to hide them I I don't I haven't seen that that's been proven that he told his employee to hide them what's the evidence for that it's literally laid out in the indictments from recorded conversations or do you think the FBI is just making it all up well the FBI did the FBI did lie to the fisa court to spy on his campaign before he entered the White House so yeah so you think they made everything up in the indictment oh okay well in that case made up everything I don't think they made up everything well then what do you think about why do you think why should I trust FBI okay then don't then I don't know why the I'm talking to you if you don't trust any of the in or any the investig bodies why did you why did you say anything about the you should have opened with that you should no Destiny I only trust what I read on Twitter I don't trust anything from any of our three letters I don't trust those guys just open with that next time and then we don't have to waste any time like you know I already told you I'm a Libertarian so you could have assumed that true that you're [ __ ] because it's basically one and part and parcel of the same okay you don't need to insult people I understand why you need to do that okay let's take a question uh sharica Soul has her hand up sharica you can un unmute yourself Destiny I just have to say that you are an adult male and the way that you're talking to some of the women in here will cat specifically is actually really disheartening to listen to also I am black and I'm kind of tired of white liberals denying the violence in the black community and using black lives matter specifically protest who by the way black the black neighborhoods that have the protest they end up being destroyed and trashed and it's not you that come to the neighborhoods and helps clean up those neighborhoods after a protest so for you to speak on black lives matter protest and say they're not violent or whatever you were trying to say is disrespectful it's disingenuous especially to black women who have to live in those neighborhoods and the black children uh thank you as a black women for showing up to show that retardation can transcend both gender and race I'm not [ __ ] I don't know why the do you think I'm speaking on for BLM this conversation is not BLM I don't know why the why don't even know who the talking to right now stop cussing I can cuss whatever want what do you mean I say the [ __ ] I want it's freedom of speech disrespectful disrespectful what this is my this is this isn't your Twitter space you're not here to tell me what I can say you're not saying matter out of your mouth black people need me I'm going to be the white Savior for BLM I love BLM I'm the leader of BLM I'm the self appointed leader oh yes I love BLM oh yeah black panthers I'm going to join it right now oh be keep it real black men are violent towards black women and we don't need people like you constantly using us for political talking points mind your own business and quit talking about a race that you don't know nothing about we don't knowm blmm are you lost are you lost right now how did you even wander into here are you okay right now mental uh distress and you need to get on medication stop talking to women crazy you only talk like that because behind a screen if you were there and she had a whole bunch of men standing by her there's no way you would keep talking to her like that you're a punk okay grow up thank you shica thank you so much for your valuable contribution okay noted okay um let's try to keep it civil guys let's just try to speak with each other with not talking over it's hard to hear when you know she's trying to speak and you're just going BLM BLM and we can't understand you guys you know it's hard to hear I'm sure you know this like I I shouldn't have to explain that but one at a time would probably be best and maybe if you didn't come to speak about BLM you don't have to you don't have to speak about it if you don't want to Destiny that's fine well there a self-appointed leader of the BLM chapter in my city uh I felt it necessary to say I am the self-appointed leader of the BLM chapter Miami self-appointed yes do you think BL does BLM start for stand for large Mansions By large Mansions do you know about that yep I got the largest one and I only invite my white friends to hang out in it can't you at least just like laugh laugh it off without being so angry like this is I'm not angry I'm being very s say will impact you you know in any meaningful ways can we can we at least like Bond over a mutual disdain for Pearl Davis like come on maybe maybe just like lighthearted maybe that's okay that's progress I'll take that I'll take that I I like that okay um does anyone else want to jump in to say anything or to ask a question hey Lauren yeah I mean hey I'll make a comment um oh boy listening to this I will say I think there is a serious problem on the right right now uh not just the right politics in general with people not actually reading the documents people getting their information from memes I actually do think it's a little atrocious that from my side of the political spectrum and what I read on my timeline I don't hear more about the Trump indictments and the actual documents going forward to be something I'm going to be doing going forward is actually reading those indictments because I think it's important for when debates like this happen and C we can read them together we'll go over it together do a little session I'm in I'm in but I will I will also say this disregard of actual research that is pervasive in the political sphere is the same reason I got cancelled and called a genocide denier for stating that no bodies existed in the alleged indigenous Mass graves in Canada I'm sure a lot of people remember that story none were ever found but that lies still persists and you know church is burned to the ground and the country put into Havoc millions and millions of dollars of our tax money spent on this cause and all because a bunch of people decided to believe memes overd doing actual research and I get being upset about it believe me I was upset about it I had uh death threats in my inbox threats towards my family my children and this is genuinely destroying our countries and democracy this lwi information kind of Engagement with politics but but I'm also aware that the people who haven't done enough research haven't done enough reading on these subjects aren't necessarily evil and shouldn't be discounted entirely even if they're the ones that are sending me threats I apologize I'm in an airport right now hopefully you guys right we can hear you we can hear you yeah so you know in some cases these people are my family my lifelong friends that I've had that completely disagree with me on these topics that I think are sometimes ill-informed on these subjects and I think that uh they're deserving of respect to some degree to some level just because my country has been defrauded by our government into believing Mass Graves and genocide exist that didn't happen and I've received threats you know I that doesn't mean I have to treat every lecce cruy nor laugh or Mark or celebrate if they uh they're killed especially when they're innocent and we're just showing up to a rally and I think there's a much better approach than the one that stepen has been taking particularly when uh I think the fact that this guy was tweeting out uh Putin worship was makes it the most hilarious like misfire that could have possibly happened he deserved to get shot I didn't say he deserve to get shot I'm just saying he doesn't deserve any sympathy for it okay and it might worn a laugh or twoo I think you'll find that people care a lot more what you have to say when you acknowledge that they might be human that they have some Integrity that you can kind of show a little bit of respect I mean you've got family members that would agree with this guy I don't think you laugh at them being shot I what my mom and dad taught me around and find out as like a first principle of how to navigate the world so if they ended up going to a rally like this cheering for insurrection or whatever yeah they deserve it 50 times over they served in the Air Force they know better they took an oath to the Constitution to serve this country not to serve a king why the I don't know why you guys asked me this question like what have it happened to what have it happened to your parents yeah if they went to a crazy rally like this if something happened to them it would be sad I'd probably personally sad what the I'm going to say like what what do you expect to happen wait you think think attending a political rally is [ __ ] around and find out scenario come I think that supporting a prior president that engaged an Insurrection yeah I'm tired of pretending like that's just like a normal ordinary thing that you're supposed to accept as as an American citizen that's unhinged that insane to me I have a question can I ask you a question sure do do you honestly think that people despite like yes I have seen the tweets mentioning the word King do you think people want him as king for real you don't think that you do yep like what what causes you to make that conclusion except show me a single conservative commentator that had anything critical to say about the criminal immunity case show me one that even read half of it actually but show me one find me one and maybe I'll believe you maybe no no no no no just one sec I wasn't talking about that I was talking about your belief that his supporters that Trump supporters uh would literally make him King if they could yes they literally call him Emperor Trump yeah it's all a joke it's just a m people that fight for so the people that that believe they're fighting for freedom and to preserve the constitutional republic that is the United States uh you know no no one hold on hold can I just finish I know you're really skilled you're really good at it it's just that you just don't know anything about like like Donald Trump literally has tweets on like two social saying he wants to suspend the Constitution and you're asking me you don't think the people that are supporting him in the constitutional republic are they want to King okay I I okay can I'll just restart so once again look so the the people that you know Champion when for example on on issues that are not related to the subject they say you know give it back to the States because the States should have the power to say they they voted for for example on abortion like they say they give it to the states is that not them upholding uh you know the constitutional republic and the the the process it's because they like the idea of can yeah let me answer the question without it being like a rambling like 50 question question okay then you ask me the next question you want okay no when they say throw it back find me a single conservative who is excited about throwing abortion back to the States as they are about supporting the right for Sanctuary cities to exist and then I'll believe you no conservatives don't give a about States's rights absolutely not they only support it in this case because they know that it'll mean less abortion than what they or there yeah that it'll mean less abortion rights than there were before that's the only reason they support it Stephen real quick man you you said that basically because Donald Trump is an insurrectionist attending his rally is supporting you know a fascist dictator or whatever and ultimately it's a r and find out scenario uh you'd have to then extrapolate that logic to believe that the 70 plus million people that voted for him are are also guilty of supporting them and therefore for a fair game and then a [ __ ] around and find out scenario so am I misreading here are you saying that all of these people are open to assassination attempts I wouldn't say open to assassination I'm just saying that if it happens there should be zero sympathy for anybody involved so so you believe that half of the country deserves no sympathy really yes yes when half of the country is supporting an insurrectionist yes democracy only works and if you're libert I don't even know what actually I don't know which you are uh if if if democracy only works when the people are working to actually like protect it uh and when half the people in the country are supporting somebody that is undemocratic then no I'm not going to sit here and and and you know shed tears for people that end up being the victims of their own insane ideology no this stupid why would I waste my time there are way better things to cry over like how horrible Game of Thrones turned out I'm not going to sit here and lose sleep over [ __ ] that are getting off as they engage in like Insurrection of supporting rhetoric that's crazy just on a personal note man I really feel like you've lost your Humanity I'm concerned for you and I wish that and maybe one day I don't know maybe if you guys grow up a little bit maybe you'll know this saying the most disgusting horrible [ __ ] that you can in a polite tone of voice is one of the most horrible things that you can do as a human being and the idea that just because you calmly and politely suggest that a guy that tried to overthrow the Republic ought to be president and that's a respectable opinion because you say it with a low voice is is beyond Redemption to me it's disgusting okay so you think we're disgusting you think we're a basket of deplorables okay I have a I have a question that's sort of related um I see that uh a person named uh Chase geyser challenged you to a lawful duel under the Texas Penal Code 22.0 6 I'm not sure what that means but then it looks like you blocked him after that was there did you not want to discuss uh that particular subject with him because I'm not why would I accept a lawful duel with somebody Beyond well because I I you know cuz he seems like he would maybe be more equipped to to talk about the things that you've read yourself maybe if he wants to talk about something then sure we can talk why the I'm not going to accept a duel that sounds [ __ ] I think that was just his way of saying can we chat about it like maybe I said it politely and in my soft disgusting tone that you don't like but you know he he was if he wants to chat yeah sure drag him in I I don't know why we would assume that means debate um I don't know why when Donald Trump says we need to fight like hell to take our country back you would say well that doesn't really mean anything but when another guy says uh penal code 112 whatever the [ __ ] challenge you to like I don't know if you want to drag him in he wants to chat we can but no it seems like we just spamming you just like [ __ ] post people want I don't think I don't think I can bring him in um what's the guy's name on Twitter or whatever hold on one sec I'll let you know Chase oh yeah I saw the infow wars too so I know that he's like an actual [ __ ] [ __ ] as well everyone is everyone a [ __ ] because people that are on infow Wars are all retards yes like if that guy would have been in the audience like the bullet would have went one in hole and out the other and there would have been no damage done that's how stupid anybody that works at infow Wars is yes okay I disagree with that assessment but sure we can okay um so okay so you didn't want to talk to him because he wants to chat sure go for it he's from Infowars I unblocked him if he wants to chat I just said he's stupid I talked to stupid people for a living that's why how I make my living yeah I have a quick question well you got to give you props for doing the living with for with what you're doing that's pretty successful so hats off to you for being successful at what you do I guess um sorry did I hear someone chiming in yeah I just decided to shut up like holding my hand up too long for a high five um go for it Lauren yeah Stephen you tweeted out earlier aand tweet in which he said that um every day you've got Republic calling for concentration camps and something along those lines and you liked it both and shared it uh can you name a single Republican with an ounce of political power or any sort of sway that has uh called daily for concentration camps I'm pretty sure Hassan's tweet there if I had to guess it was in reference to the uh border policies that Donald Trump has where we were separating people at the border and then keeping them locked up in facilities or under staff pretty sure that's what that reference do you think that those are concentration camps um I mean definitionally they might have been I'm not sure probably I don't know I wouldn't call them that but do you think I mean you just liked and shared a tweet referring to them as concentration camps do you think they are concentration camps or not I don't think that I'm going to uh account for the exactness of a particular insult that's used against a sigh that doesn't even acknowledge what happened on January 6th so if there was a person that wanted to critique the particular way that a word or term or definition is used it sure as wouldn't be somebody on the right absolutely not well I thought your whole qualms with all of this is that that the right wiers aren't actually reading the documents they don't understand no my qualms with right-wingers is they are anti-American they don't support the Constitution they don't support the country that they're a part of and that they engage in patterns of conceptual and precise pieces of misinformation in order to spread the lies and the Mischief or whatever the they do online it's not over whether or not they use a particular term right or wrong in a thing it's the fact that they'll come on and they'll talk about criminal indictments and Insurrection being familiar with any of the underlying material that's my issue well luckily I'm a Canadian and you've got a Canadian asking you don't worry there's a lot of concentration camps and it sounds like you're just going to be uh out here tweeting inflammatory rhetoric with right now yeah basically am I think so yeah yeah that you don't even believe in you don't think they concentration I think it was funny it was funny enough to it was funny enough to your side well that's that's the rules of discourse that the right has said so yeah why not have a little bit of fun they can't have all the fun in this country right them I think that's why a lot of people usually respect you is because you don't usually accept those rules of discourse whether it be right or left I mean well unfortunately when you're a grown up and you live in the in the whole world you kind of have to accept listen I've seen enough of your tweets to know you have to AC if somebody were to go up to you and say Lauren why do you have so many problems with housing or immigration in Canada or whatever uh and then you're like well I've got issues because of X well hold on that's just their opinions like you don't have to play by their rules you don't have to worry about uh the changes that they impart on your country you can just do your own thing no that's not how it works here okay this is like the rules of discourse and the rules of media reporting the rules of accountability that the right is set so I'm not going to have the right hold me to some different standard that they themselves don't even begin to approach just as is the people you think you're criticizing I don't think I'm J it's not about being moronic it's about being anti-American it's about being opposed to democratic rule of law yeah but that's funny I mean you can pretend it's the same yeah no that's cool that's good yep it is it's the exact same it's the exact calling calling separation families at the border a concentration camp that's the exact same thing is saying January 6th what was that didn't he say mostly peaceful I think it's wild I think it's wild that America has concentration camps in fact I'd say not trying to get this President out of office that would be anti you know anti-democratic it's your duty to get this President out of office if he is running concentration camps at the border right I mean that's what Republicans are saying worse than that now so I don't know why you think you're making a [Laughter] point we have Rob with his hand up Rob I've invited you as Speaker Rob no hopefully I'm saying that right um that is correct thank you so much Edge Lord Destiny great to be here know that you really don't like people that are read up so happy to beat you around on these subjects like always uh to start with I find most repugnant about what you're doing not that you're an edge Lord making jokes but that you're a disingenuous sack of [ __ ] because as I've debated you in the past you started talking before January 6 ever occurred about how the BLM riots were Justified it was just the other side of the coin of voting of course once you realize that gri wouldn't do as well for you when you were debating The Written House [ __ ] you completely 18 your position hold on just to be clear wait wait I don't think I've ever supported violent riots against private property I don't know if I've ever supported that the US the farthest my position ever went was if people wanted to violently Riot against public property that maybe that's defens I'm pretty sure that's the farthest I've ever gone even prior to written house I don't know where that opinion comes from I've always supported protests and even riots to some extent as long as it's not against private property but that is exactly true what you said to me was even though you weren't sure how much of the pro violence was against private property versus public but to the extent that the George Floyd riots were against public property you said that that's fine if you feel the system's not working for you we're America godamn it and riding's the other side of the coin of voting now when that occurs on January 6 all did I ever hold on did I ever say writing is the other side of the coin of voting that's a really strange statement I did I did that's a really strange but go ahead okay I will try to find the clip for you but you said that they were Justified at the time then what's even more egregious is your take on January 6th you initially said to at least one other person a leftwing streamer and on a panel that I was on that it was absurd to think this was a serious attempt to overthrow the government by the riot that day you basically alluded to the fact that because there were so many people that outnumbered the police that it's clear if they really were trying to violently overthrow the government they'd have taken far greater actions now you're suggesting that people that disagree with your new position that this was clearly an Insurrection are people that are [ __ ] around and should find out because they can't call it out what do you think is the difference yeah sure what do you think is the difference between then and now Rob there is no difference materially on huge difference in what we knew publicly at the time there is a huge difference in what was publicly known you can go and you I'm sure you've listened to me and PCO argue about this at length on my channel I was massively against the concept of being an inaction originally until it came out that there were some proud boy people there they were trying to coordinate some [ __ ] I was like okay well maybe but then once the Trump stuff came out absolutely on Donald Trump's end 100% he was engaging in Insurrection and he was utilizing the protesters to do as much now whether or not all of the protesters themselves knowingly even the ones that broken knew that they were part of ins or not at this point I kind of lean towards yes but I'm not like as but Donald Trump absolutely and unequivocally yes the difference is the actions that were taken by people that day are what would constitute an Insurrection and those actions have been on dis for you to see the public evidence of the day of January 6th and all throughout after that and you correctly came to the conclusion that it was a riot that got out of hand now let's say that you think because of evidence you you even specifically said of course there might have been some proud boy type people there laring they might have done some bad [ __ ] but the overwhelming majority of the people that were there it was not a serious attempt to overthrow the government it was a rot now let's say that you've since heard evidence of things Donald Trump did that doesn't change whether the action itself was an Insurrection you have no evidence that Trump willfully told those people to go be violent and in fact the irony is hold on Donald Trump invited all of those people to Washington to give a speech on the 6th at the same time that he had given Pence seven false slats of electors and pressured him to accept them and then he sent them all to the capital building I guess hopefully to protest to delay the certification of the vote and as it was being delayed he made calls to the lawmakers continuing to try to delay the certification of the vote and the people at the white or at the capital building were using violence as as as part of the protest Riot that's an Insurrection that is not an Insurrection and if you call that an Insurrection and narrow the definition as such then you would have to admit that things like May 31st 2020 where the were violent left Wingers that unlike January 6th used lethal weapons injured 47 guards burned down a guard station and attempted to get into the White House to the point where Trump had to be removed into a bunker which then many on the left including Joe Biden mocked him for having to go to the bunker that would also be an Insurrection and one of the points I want to just as a quick just as a as a quick thing okay right this is the difference between me and every single spinal on the right if you were to give me an example of this and if the examples were to lay out the criteria that I've set forth for an Insurrection what do you think I would say well you know of this I would think you would say that there are some sort of meaningless differentiations because no two situations will ever be completely analog okay well that's not true what I would say and I'll say it right now that's not true I it's funny that you think that there's a shortage of criticism for BLM or whatever on my side when that's one of the things I'm the most criticized for that's hilarious but no if you were to show me that there was some organized group of people who were trying to circumvent or overthrow some government process uh and they did so in a means that incorporated violence i' probably say oh wow I guess that could probably qualify as an Insurrection too sure that's probably what I would say if assuming the evence okay then real quick because the FBI decided not to have a massive task force because Democrats to say it was mostly peaceful the National Guard shouldn't be deployed etc etc because that investigation didn't take place use your best judgment what do you think a bunch of violent lefties with Molotov cocktails attacking the White House injuring 47 guards and burning down a guard station and attempt to get into the White House what do you think their motivations were I have I truly have no [ __ ] idea I haven't looked into it at all right isn't it convenient the FBI never investigates the things that occur on the Democrat side and then you say well what can we do we don't have the FBI never investigates hold on I'm sorry what did uh what did h Biden get convicted of for having drugs in a video so then bro he would lied to a 4473 for a firearm the they never the hold on the FBI never investigates their own or Democrats or convicts them what what was the whole uh was it the not Durham what was the thing about Biden and the documents or whatever that whole special counsel or whatever that was appointed by Merck Garland the Democrat doj and I'm sorry who did Donald Trump pardon every single person that got convicted that was part of him how the you trying to say there's a double standard here that doesn't exist on the Republican side you're insane Rob the rapidity in raising your voice is unimpressive to me I could do it just as well do knock yourself out nonetheless right no it's clear for example let's take those one by one the investigation into Biden it was covered up from the get-go the only reason that ever resulted in any charges was because two whistleblowers from the IRS outed the fact that the FBI was covering for this now we know the CIA was as well then a judge blew apart the sweetheart Clea deal that was given to Hunter Biden so with egg on their face they charged him with the most meaningless crime that couldn't be connected to his father and their family which was a gun charge when he was high which I don't even think he should have been charged for this happened under Donald Trump's Administration wouldn't it have been his FBI yes his same FBI that wanted an insurance policy and preventing him the same FBI that for four years leaked to the press and illegally spied on him yes the same FBI where Comey came out and he made statements to the Press about Hillary's email usage in a totally unprecedented manner the same FBI that that that had are you going to clown yourself on this again after the last time I clowned you're wrong sure everyone in the audience me and Destiny went back and forth for over an hour on this and the IG report showed that actually the reason that Comey did that and then had to come out later and reann ance the opening of the Hillary investigation was because the FBI intentionally sat on the fact that there were more emails on Anthony this your entire argument hinges and the same thing that you just put forth now hinges on the idea that one or two whistleblowers can force the hand of a three-letter to make anything public ignoring the fact that people like Julian Assange have been like [ __ ] pushed out of the country for like over a decade you're telling me that the FBI or whatever they're so corrupt that they can engage in all this cover that they'd be pressured to uh to have one or two whistleblowers make the media like force them to release [ __ ] they could just ignore it and American Minds move on in literally one week so you see how Destiny laments when he's talking to left Wingers that don't understand the facts of the case how they're uninformed but when Preston someone's more informed of these IG reports than him that show this is exactly what happened that Comey himself admitted that the reason came out was because there was this whistleblower that was going to come out and he was afraid that the FBI would have an albatross on their neck because the American people would be furious after the election to find out that there was an allegation that the FBI sat on evidence of Hillary's potential criminality and he got blown up in that debate he knows it but he defaults to these meaningless platitudes of saying well there could never be corruption from whistleblowers outing because if that was the case then whistleblowers would have always outed or the FBI would have been more corrupt and taken care of them it's nonsensical and so furthermore then let going to the Herbert oh I'll finish with this the Biden business the hunter Biden business what they didn't charge was the obvious far violations because they didn't want it to connect to Joe Biden the fact that Hunter Biden was working with the Spy chief of China with the executives and barisma that were considered by Joe Biden himself to be corrupt foreign oligarchs and was lobbying to the United States and no doubt his father those are the crimes that aren't being charged okay sorry hold on I was wait I stepped away for a minute I'm so sorry I know that you were doing your whole uh rant um very relating to the Insurrection stuff do you agree that Donald Trump get tried to get seven false Lees of electors I'm called them alternate slates but yes hold on they were not certified or appointed by the state legislatures do you acknowledge that that they were fraudulent slates that when they when they signed the papers that said that we assembled at City Hall and we are the or we and the State Assembly and we are the duly appointed blah blah blah that was a lie they were fraudulent I will say this unlike you I will stay on the topic that you're desperately trying to change to you're getting blown out on the other side hold on excuse me the whole point of this call wasn't to debate every single AGI report and everything that robor wanted talk about that was the point of this go the point of this was you brought up hter the point of this blown no it's not about getting blown up the point of this not to interrupt each other let each other speak please I don't want to mute anyone cuz Destiny said you don't want to be muted I'm trying to respect that wish cuz you agreed to come on and I really appreciate it can you guys just let each other finish sentences just like a little bit more than you are it's hard to hear you guys sure the topic of this space the thing that I here to discuss was not every single prior AI report it was the it was the Trump uh Insurrection stuff that's that's what we were talking about with cat that's what I'm talking about right now do you think that Donald Trump did seven false slates of electors I think he did alternate slates of electors that his team recommended as a legal strategy that that was a potential to go through because he felt that the election was fraudulently taken from him and that courts were unwilling to hear cases that he truly believed in would you support okay would you support President Biden if he SEAL Team Six Donald Trump because he thinks he's he legitimately thinks well what if he legitimately thinks he's a threat to the Nation I would not support that I would not have supported Donald Trump if he did the same to Joe Biden you why would you why would you support Donald Trump no we don't need analogy we don't analogy why would you support Donald Trump creating false slates of electors but so let's do the analogy would I support Joe Biden using a false slate of electors no it doesn't count now it doesn't wait no let me answer please I would be I would be pissed off I would say that that's terrible I wouldn't think that it's criminal I think that what would happen would be that this was an attempt to have a legal challenge to the election that was a Hail Mary I think that had Trump been successful and Mike Pence gone through with this it would have went to the courts the courts would have quickly said we don't see evidence of any sort of hold on wait wait wait I'm sorry wait wait one step at a time before you do your whole weird revision [ __ ] okay so you admit that the initial seven slates those were not authorized by the state assemblies right I do believe that's the case yeah okay so they were fraudulent I don't know why you saying alter they were just just to be autistic two of those out of the seven did specifically right on them that they were alternates to the main person and only to be brought in if if it was found that they were the legitimate electors uh I would have to read that I would TR okay I would have to go and read that I definitely wouldn't trust hearing that uh Second Hand but regardless um they were filled out they claimed on the things I guess maybe on two of them they didn't so maybe five were uh were false okay when these were sent to the uh when these were sent to Congress the goal wasn't to have a legitimate debate over the election and whether or not there was voter fraud the they were trying to commit fraud Rob right they weren't looking to have a substantive debate on the floor about whether or not voter fraud had occurred they were trying to push their own fraudulent electoral votes no that's not true what was occurring was that you tell me then this would be the easiest way to do it let's say Mike Spence accepts the alternate slate what would happen then well nobody knows Eastman says that Eastman was he had several different plans for what could have possibly happened he could have said that he's accepting the seven alternate slates um he's going to cut short I think the time that the florican debate and he either accepts them um or he throws it back to the house delegation and they make Trump the president what would have happened would have been that it would have went to the court it would have been basically a constitutional crisis that the court would have looked into the court would have either found evidence of fraud or not most likely you would believe they wouldn't have and the election would have went to Joe Biden no no no hold on I'm so sorry this was not written in any of the Eastman memos this wasn't the goal the goal was to get the house delegation fesp and what haveed would have been that it would have went to the Supreme Court you don't know that why do you why do you why do you just assume that it's clear so you think what would happen would Pence would have just said Trump's president and everyone would have said us shs that have been it what would well let's say that let's say that Pence says Trump's president and then Trump remains president and then what how does it go to the court who investigates that the courts would have as an emergency measure taken the case immediately now wa wait wait wait wait the courts would have taken the case from who would have taken the cases that the alternate electors were claiming that there was who brings the case Rob the federal government is going to do it because Donald Trump is the head of the doj oh horeshit there would have been people that would have spoke up from not just the federal government that were Democrat attorney generals Etc but there would have been people out outside of that that would have demanded the courts here this case you can't just demand a court here is a case there has to be a plaintiff somebody has to file the complaint and bring the case in front of a court and courts don't choose what they want to hear who has standing besides the federal government who would have standing there well who had standing anyways when it came to that wasn't that the issue you were okay with when it came to not hearing cases from Texas that no one had standing these weren't about these weren't about the Vice President in His official duties as head of the Senate these were about these were totally different cases I don't know if anybody has stand you're just the thing that I'm challenging and by the way I'm scramming at you but it might have been maybe that that a state maybe could have brought this case before The Supreme Court for the current one I sure wouldn't have trusted them to hear it but maybe they could have but for you to act like it's foregone conclusion that oh no well obviously any state could have gone before The Supreme Court and challenge the way that the certification went you don't know that maybe that's a thing that only the federal government has standing to do I don't know for um in the Constitution if the states have the right to challenge how the federal government certifies the election that sounds like something that would be outside of the purview of the states I think that it's quite clear that the states would have that a democratic state would have said that they had standing because they felt disenfranchised and the Supreme Court would have been willing to hear that really Tex tried that with pania and the Supreme Court told him to kick rocks so why would you assume that why would you assume a state has standing to challenge how the federal government certifies its votes because what they told to kick rocks was the fact that one state doesn't have the right to say how another state adjudicates their elections this would have been different because it would have had the federal government choosing to take a slate of electors that weren't chosen by say a democratic State like say Arizona right sure maybe maybe maybe the seven states affected maybe they could have brought the case maybe but we don't but for you pretend that you know 100% that they would have outstanding to do it and that they would have heard the case and that it would have turned out AOK that the Supreme Court would have sided with them that in 2 weeks the Supreme Court would have made a decision despite the fact that Donald Trump would also then be president you don't know any of that and also look at how far gone you are look at how far gone you are like well I mean Trump could have stolen the election and and essentially sof CED the government uh well with violence I guess it would kind of be an interaction but we'll just say soft CED the government um however like maybe the Supreme Court would have heard it within maybe like a month or two or three and then hopefully they would have ruled on the side of it would have had to have been what seven different conjoined cases then hopefully for every single case they present these correct like how long would this have taken like like look at how far gone you are you're like okay and then like 10 months into the term the president has to step down like it's unhinged we'll let Rob respond and then we'll move on to some other uh speakers that have their hand up is that cool Rob is that okay yes I will be I it's not that far gone it's obvious that that would have occurred it's not something that I supported I thought there were court cases that should have been heard in places like Georgia and other places Pennsylvania where there were election challenges that should have been heard but there was never definitive proof and I was against Mike Pence signing off on those he didn't but I'm okay with for criminality for to try to attempt a legal strategy like this this wasn't a coup that was near as damaging as what you have ignored which was the FBI's Behavior towards Trump what would the what would the uh what would the criminality even be here who would be doing the criminal Behavior what criminal Behavior you're the one that's supporting Trump going to jail for this no no I'm asking you like let's say goes to the Supreme Court what are they what are they even challenging they would challenge whether or not the ultimate slate of electors were legitimate because there was actually fraud claims that were true that the Supreme Court wouldn't have been holding a criminal case at that point hold on wait a second wait a second if you're arguing hold on let me I'm just so I can be clear you're saying that in an ideal world it would have gone to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court would have looked at it and then the Supreme Court would have ruled in favor of the states and having the correct slates of electors CH chosen correct then why the did you call them alternate slates instead of fraudulent slates Rob because their feel was that there was a legitimate incorrect when has that ever mattered and if I feel like the Bank owes me a million dollars and I go and rob the bank can I use that as an affirmative defense in court in Hawaii when there was two slates of electors was one fake no because both were authorized by the state Rob are you aware of that I am aware but wait wait wait wait wait wait why did you just bring up Hawaii did you think I didn't know about no no hold on one a second why did you bring wait wait why did you bring bring up Hawaii then when we're talking about a presidential candidate that got seven false slates of electors certified in order to send to Congress why would you bring up Hawaii as a counter example of that I've talked to you about Hawaii then why would you bring it up because I'm going to I'm going to sorry to interrupt um we've been going okay okay here wait wait give give give give Rob the last word go ahead right say give Rob the last word and the states accepted it as you know each state could choose their own manner in which they adjudicate this if a state wanted to have an issue with alternate slates of electors that's one thing the idea that it's a federal crime for Trump to suggest this is another and the point I'm trying to make is what happened in Hawaii was they had to put that alternate slate because the time frame on when the slates of electors had to be accepted was going to run out before they could do the recount that they found was necessary and no one said that's fake slate of electors the idea what you seem to be implying is a fake slate is somehow that they were nefarious and lying and there was a chance that Mike Pence wouldn't have known it's absurd they knew which were the Slate that was chosen by the states and those which weren't and they know that those which weren't were protesting the election which they had every right to do it may have been hamfisted it may have been stupid optically but it's not a criminal charge and given what we saw from agencies that you supported for years like the FBI illegally spying on Trump that was more of a coup to this country than Trump's failed attempt to have the courts look at fraud from these election cases okay we'll leave it there we can revisit if people want to revisit that uh further their hands up up I'd like to get to some of the hands uh we have uh Darwin and then um I believe it was the older Millennial uh then Lauren and then uh Christian Lamar so in that order Darwin feel free to unmute and speak and then we'll move on to the next speakers and let's try to you know keep it one at a time so that people can hear I have people getting mad at me in the DMS that when you guys talk over each other no one can hear anything thanks hey Destiny how's it going great so I'm curious you talk about how if you mess around then you find out and basically what I understand your position to be listening so far is if somebody supports Trump or if they go to a trump rally then it's open season on them do I have you wrong there I would say it's open season I'm just saying if [ __ ] happens I mean I don't I don't know why anybody have any sympathy well are you actually against people shooting Trump supporters at this point I think it's probably not a good idea but again I'm not again I'm I don't have any sympathy for it I don't care okay um do you think that it's Democratic to shoot people who are against democracy um in some cases probably yeah just depends on the case right I mean isn't that kind of what the whole Revolutionary War was about was shooting people that were trying to prevent our democracy you guys are the ones that march with the 1776 thing right well I suppose uh do you think do you think it's do you think that like revolutions and [ __ ] that are fighting for democracy do you think they shoot people that are against democracy to defend democracy yeah I think people typically shoot people whenever there's a revolution okay but it's just interesting to me I thought the whole point of democracy is that you vote you don't shoot people who want to run government in a different way is that not your understanding of democracy typically it is it's also my understanding of democracy that say for instance if you've engaged in Insurrection that you're ineligible to hold office again but um that rule got wiped Away by the Supreme Court because we didn't like it because we had to make an exception for Donald Trump to run for president again so I guess like the rules of democracy just don't seem to apply in the same way when it comes to Donald Trump it's also my understanding for instance that you can impeach a person um in the house and then convict them in the Senate if you feel they've done wrong and you want to not have them hold future office but Republicans disagreed with that and they said actually you can impeach a man that's out of office it was also my understanding that people can be held criminally liable for the actions that they perform irrespective of their position in society that no man is above the law but the Supreme Court has also disagree with that and now Trump enjoy absolute criminal immunity for every core action as president and presumptive Immunity at least for basically every other thing he did while President so all of these ideas of what a democracy is and how you hold people accountable in democracy seems like Trump and his fans don't like any of those rules so again if you make a king I mean people are going to treat him as a king yeah it's just strange to me it it seems like you're it seems like and and let me know if you're wrong but if I'm wrong here but it seems like you would be fine with taking out half the country as long as they are in support of trump because he's a dictator uh would I be fine with it probably not it'd be pretty tragic but I think it's more tragic than we got to the point where half the country supports an insurrectionist and I don't I don't I I don't appreciate that some for some reason conservatives have been able to dictate so much of the media agenda that we're just supposed to accept that as normal do you think maybe the way that you're talking speaks to the way that politics has a way of poisoning our minds I think if that was the case don't think this is like a person at the bottom of a pool like dyed with black water trying to tell me what he sees on on the surface of the pool like if you're somebody that has sit there and and retweeted every epic own where Tim p is saying Civil War where uh margar Taylor green and all these people are talking about Nancy Pelosi's husband where everybody's denying that the Whitmer thing ever happened whatever that is whatever that group of people are they are unequipped and they are unable to to Levy any legitimate criticism towards anybody else that's laughing that the fact that somebody showing up at a [ __ ] dictator rally ends up getting shot by trying to kill the dictator no that's that whatever criticisms there are to make there that side wouldn't be able to make it and that's because that side supports January 6 is that right that's because that side supports an Insurrection against the uh government which is January 6 correct that and the events leading up to it yes right so it seems like what I'm understanding is you don't have to be held morally accountable for any of the things that you're doing because the other side supports an insurrectionist so it's it's okay to kill them it's okay to I never said it's okay to kill them the country has laws if you shoot somebody or whatever you should you should be held well oh actually I don't actually hold on I'm so sorry wait just I want to I'm sorry I want to walk that back uh I don't think in a room full of conservatives I wouldn't say that anything should be like you should be held criminally liable for anything I don't know if I would feel comfortable saying that around conservatives because apparently you guys think that that's not the case that some people in this country shouldn't be held criminally criminally liable for some things but if I was in a room full of uh friendly people that actually appreciated rule of law um then I would say you know if you shoot and kill somebody regardless of the reason well not regardless I mean self-defense whatever is acceptable but no you should be held criminally liable of course okay I mean if that's the case why don't you speak out against the violence instead of making light of it and basically encouraging it the encouragement comes from the other side that anointed a king I'm not going to sit here and pretend like uh Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton saying illegitimate president is contributing to the uh to the to the current conditions in this country more than the guy who's literally known for making up bad nicknames for political opponents that's wild 95% of why Trump is even supported by UD [ __ ] is because of how epic he is on Twitter so no I'm not going to sit here and chastise people on the left who are uh being a little bit divisive about rhetoric it's insane okay I was just curious about that one other thing I'm really curious about go ahead real quick just to piggyback off your point about democracy um you know Steven's Point is that basically Donald Trump is this existential threat because he's an insurrectionist and ultimately a threat to democracy but at the same time he's saying that 70 million Americans are essentially not fair game but you know deserve no sympathy if they're caught up in the crossfire of this Brewing War um why do you still think that democracy is worth defending if you believe that the favorite to be the next president of the United States is ultimately a threat to democracy itself doesn't that kind of defeat the entire argument in favor of democracy it might actually yeah I mean like that's always a a possibility that this is like we're approaching the end of the American experiment um we have the longest surviving constitution of any currently established government on the country and the guy that we're voting for right now likely uh wants to suspend that Constitution so that he can investigate his political opponents for criminal wrongdoing and half the country seems to not give so it might be that like this is the end of the road and then this is kind of where we get off the American Democratic experiment train as possible okay let's go to the older let's go to the older Millennial and then Lauren Southern um to keep it kind of flowing and then we can take more requests after that if if you're still willing to obl yeah I don't think I don't think my Point's going to take that long it's like so I mean I I've heard Destiny speak a lot and I I think he's made it very clear and even made it very clear in this live that you believe nobody's Above the Law you believe everybody everybody who commits criminal activity should be prosecuted for criminal activity and then on an earlier point you were talking about the classified documents you were saying that Trump having them for a year shows criminality shows he should be prosecuted hold on to be clear wait Trump having them for a year doesn't show anything it's the fact that he had them he knew he had them he knew they were classified and then he didn't classify didn't classify them and that he knowingly kept them and then obstructed investigators from getting to them that yeah okay I I completely agree with anybody that think I don't disagree with people that think that Trump holding on to those documents he should be prosecuted for it I don't disagree with you and now him having them for a year and holding on to them and knowing they were classified knowing he wasn't supposed to have them that that points out criminality totally get that now under that same vein and under the fact that nobody is above the law uh that we know from transcripts from Robert her during interviews conduct you know during interviews that in 2018 Biden was aware that he had classified documents that he wasn't supposed to have we we know that he even said to his uh Ghost Writer he said they just found the classified documents downstairs so that it's not debatable whether or not he knows he had them so that would be 2018 where he's not in office he's and he didn't have a right to take them because he was VP anyway and then he had them and then he didn't turn them in until late 2023 so that would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 years of knowingly retaining classified documents that he does not have a right to so under the idea that nobody's Above the Law he should certainly be prosecuted too sure if you want to charge him with a crime go for it okay no that's just what I wanted to clarify because I was I was hearing that because I the question got asked where you were asked earlier what about Biden having those documents and you you you definitely did not answer that question you said you wanted him to answer your question first and we never got the answer to that so I was just curious you know well because the whataboutism is just like silly that like the documents case of what Trump is facing is like the least of the concerns I would say that the whole conspiracy to defraud the American public and throw the election uh I would say is like the bigger concern but yeah if you want to charge if you want to charge Biden with a crime or whatever knock yourself out charge him and see how it goes in court I guess so but again but no no no I'm not I'm not asking about charging what I'm what I'm what I'm asking is do so you believe that Trump is a criminal for what he did in with the classified documents so then that that hold on do I believe that well hold on wait wait wait we need know I just want to clarify we say do think criminal think from what I've in the indictments think Donald trp is rightfully charged with the things that he's indicted for now is he a criminal well he would have to go to court and if he's convicted then he would be I guess right now he is well maybe we'll see if he gets thrown out I guess after the sueme court ring if he beats the con uh the conviction or whatever for whatever reason then he wouldn't be a criminal but I think that the charges I think are warranted yes so you you would feel that even if the courts found him innocent let him go you wouldn't there wouldn't be any videos about how he got away with it because it was a judge he put in there it would just be that's the way the justice system works and he's obviously innocent if I if I if he went through the court process and assuming there wasn't like anything unhinged or insane that happened then yeah I mean sometimes people you don't like win in court like it happens yeah it's unfortunate but it happens be like okay well he won he you know he survived the process yeah I'm I'm just saying that under under your line of thinking if we're being if we're being logically consistent then the current occupant of the of the White House committed criminal activity okay okay just just supporting a criminal I just something you accuse conservatives of doing a lot no I it's it's not really about supporting a criminal I don't think I've actually I don't think I've used that phrase a single time in here so the problem is you come under here with the assumption that I'm as much of a cowardly as you are and that I won't hold my side to account because you won't hold your side to account if you think that Biden had if you think that Biden had done if if B the fact that you had to walk me through five minutes of wasted time to say if if you think that Biden there's Reasonable Suspicion or public qu he committed crime would you support charges against him and if did do it yeah of course I would fine charge him convict him whatever the [ __ ] sure the problem isn't that the problem is that the problem isn't that the problem isn't that I don't even know if you could perceive my character from the puddle on the ground that you move around in your character we had perceived your character as a 30-year-old man that traveled across the world to go 18year old girl okay well now I'm a 35-year old man I'm going to travel across the world go [ __ ] your mom okay all I'm saying is that the reason wait wait wait hold on wait real quick don't cut off hold on I'm just hands please yeah wait hold on real quick you guys you guys have resorted insults now I wait it's okay we love insults here okay it's fine hold on just a real quick thing okay I don't care if people support like ack and then I would like to move on to Lauren please she's wait hold on wait AR I half the owner of the space let the guy finish hold on I just want to make one point and then he can make one point and you can move on to Lauren again okay no Canadian fa co-host instead am I not a co-host no you're just a speaker okay well just okay go on finish your points s interrupting then we'll move on to Lauren finish your point sure okay yeah well then give him the last word okay I don't care like supporting a criminal is not my thing it's supporting an insurrection that's what I've said since the very beginning I'm sure that if you go through a lot of people's actions you might be able to find crimes maybe that maybe you could charge maybe they even get convicted for my issue right now is not the documents case with Donald Trump that's just one of the four indictments he was facing the two huge ones the Georgia one and the big Federal one the Jack Smith one about Insurrection those are the two massive things okay I don't even know if if you want to support a president who's had criminal chares who did criminal Behavior I don't even think that's necessarily anti-American pending on what your criminally charge there's a whole host of like stupid things there where it's like that's criminal you probably held accountable for it but it's not like anti- supporting Insurrection absolutely is it's not anti-American to to not actually keep track of classified documents that put our classified activities in danger that's not anti-American that's not I mean it would depend it would depend on it would depend on as somebody who spent 10 years in the Army I know that anybody that misplaced any classified materials in the Army if you misplaced even a low-level classified document one of them you were either you were going to lose rank you were going to lose pay you were very likely going to be getting jail in the Army you're definitely going to be discharged from the military so it wait so that hold on just as a real quick thing you probably I mean you could be discharged you could lose your job you could lose rank whatever likely criminally charged probably not that's that here's the thing first of all is somebody who worked in the crypto side of the army yes you will be criminally charged in fact I've seen people be criminally charged I've seen soldiers be criminally charged for losing a crypto device in a in a Humvee that was blown the [ __ ] up so no that doesn't happen no that doesn't happen I'm sorry okay that's fine I I'll I'll tweet you I'll tweet you the guy yeah that's great um I was just going to ask something real quick um I would say that's no sorry myin myin thanks for coming in and you know thanks for coming on I know I usually troll you pretty hard but we can put that aside for now Lauren had her hand up and then uh and then I believe it was Christian Lamar and then and then we can go let's do the hands let's get through the hands uh that people have been waiting patiently for and then we can get to you cuz I'm willing to host the space as long as Destiny is willing okay is that cool am I supposed to say yes to that oh sure okay yeah okay um I mean listening to this it sounds like whenever you go back to the elector stuff you make it sound very cut and dry like this was an Insurrection this was extremely deliberate extremely illegal like how could they this has never been done before in the country's history but when I read about it a bit like fake certificates this is from AP News fake certificates were submitted in the Battleground states of Arizona Georgia Michigan Nevada Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in New Mexico and Pennsylvania fake lectors added caveat saying the certificate was submitted in case they were later recognized as duly elected qualified elector doors that would only have been possible if Trump had won any of several dozen legal battles he waged against states in the weeks after the election Republican party of New Mexico chairman Steve Pierce said Friday that the state faced numerous election challenges that had the possibility of going before a court therefore he said the GOP electors cast their votes by the deadline written within federal statute in the event the election outcome changed and Democratic attorney general Torres agrees that the Republican electors did not violate the law but now he wants to criminalize the process used by both Democrats and Republicans Pier said referring to the 1960 presidential election in which Democrat electors in Hawaii cast votes for John of Kennedy despite that state initially being called for Republican Richard Nixon so this sounds like a little more complicated than just this cut and dry like Trump was trying to steal the election with these electors hold on why the whole point of submitting the false lights of electors were so that vice president Pence would choose them when Congress was counting the votes in order to the false lights of electors or to use them to cause confusion to throw it back to the house delegation to just make Trump the president there is no part of that that is a legitimate or legal process well then why did the Attorney General the Democrat attorney general agree that the electors did not violate the law saying that somebody didn't violate a particular criminal Statute in a state speaks nothing to the federal case of the criminal conspiracy to overturn the election it might be that in States maybe they found a car out or a caveat to avoid criminal charges but the electorates were not chosen by that state and the goal of those electorates was not to represent the actual voters of the state the goal was for Pence to unilaterally declare Trump the president in Congress using a variety of means all right I'll read the indictments and we can have a debate about this at a further date but it definitely seems like uh a little more complex it's absolutely not I know it seems that way but it's just because of the first time you've ever read it into it in your entire life and now you're trying to nibble around the edges of like well actually with the way he cross his te on this particular thing maybe I know and I'm I'm going to love when you come back to like oh well actually well if you actually look in in 17 or actually in the year in the year 1427 uh there was a British king once and he talked to a feudal Lord and when they were doing their play electorate college for their children they actually did this thing and and the common law [ __ ] the people voted in a certain way the electorate sites were not contested this has never been a thing that's been contested and Donald Trump and just laid out in the whole thing for as part of your reading you should Google Eastman memo and you can read the whole plan nothing about that is democratic nothing about that is legal it hinged on them assuming that the Electoral count was unconstitutional and that they would be able to challenge it on the floor and have it thrown to the court while they cause Mayhem and seat Trump as president no part of this comes off as like a legal Democratic process even if an individual actor in a State might avoid state criminal charges for it great I will read it because I sure as [ __ ] have not taken your word for it okay okay we can go to uh um yeah it was Christian yeah thank you thanks um so I I got a question for uh for Destiny um do you are first of all you're you are you live in the United States right unfortunately right now yeah okay and do you know uh I'm assuming you you're a citizen here so do you know what kind of country you live in as far as the type of government is the is the is the country are the three three branches of government article one article two article three are the three branches of government do those three branches equal a democracy do those three are you trying to quiz me on structures of government I'm pretty sure democracy just means that the people vote on things I think a republic means you've got Representatives that that create legislation for you I think we're considered a Democratic Republic but we're also a constitutional republic is a constitution that sources the three separate branches of power I don't know what are you trying to quiz me on to see if I don't know it some [ __ ] American government yeah tell me what you what are you asking okay so you because again of of all the things that you have said you've reverted back to saying that the country is either a Democratic or a democracy so country is democracy one second one second one second so is the word Democratic democracy or democrat written in the text of the US Constitution I don't I don't know if it's written in the text of the US Constitution but voting is and and okay okay so I I'll answer it for you it's not okay so you have you have uh first of all article two hold on I'm sorry wait wait before you go on this whole Yap Fest are you gonna are you going to try to make the argument to me that the United States is not a democracy is that it's not a democracy it's not how do you define democracy because you because you because you said that it would be okay with shooting someone if they did not believe or agree that the country is a democracy or Democratic or democrat whatever the case may be but it's not and you have how do sure wait real quick so we're on the same page how do you define a democracy a de a democracy is not what what we have I ask what it's not is this is this a troll what is a democracy it would be it would be it would be primarily based on number one using the popular vote as much as possible yeah that's that's not true no that's not true number true and then number two yeah democracy allows the uh the government to go around the text of the Constitution and not abide strictly by the text in the Constitution we have so in our country we have the three branches we have first of all article three is appointed by article two and and also article three has to be confirmed uh by a half of article one article two is elected by the Electoral College and then even when you look at article one uh article one is divided up by congressional seats based on our s uh based on our census that census is also uh divied up uh according to the Electoral College and then you have the maps that are drawn okay I'm good I don't need the like I don't need I don't need the I don't need the fake government lesson if you don't have anything you don't else to say we person other people want to speak your whole premise if there are other people sir I don't I honestly don't give a with what you have to say I don't need to listen to Somebody talk about how the country that I live in isn't a democracy then why are you speaking why you talking than I know you don't care okay so now so now going back to me when this dude is done okay okay do you think he's done has been nope he's still yapping [ __ ] me for this to go on he's doing the US is a republic and not a democracy uh he might want to make the super strict argument that like an individual citizen gets a right to vote isn't like founded in the um in any of the Constitution which where I'm pretty sure it's technically true because like I I mean we've said this before the states vote for um the states vote for president but like the idea that like the people are the ones that vote for things that it's We the People it's not we the representative it's not we the parliament it's not we the Congress um is yeah the idea that this guy would come on and try to make the argument well actually we're not a democracy at all we're some other whatever autistic [ __ ] he was arguing for I guess Jesus Christ do they know you muted him I have no idea don't I don't care no it's not no he's still going I think at one point senators were appointed by state legisl legislatures rather than directly elected that is true until I think re was that relatively recently um your federal Senators the people that go to your law house were just chosen by the um by your State Assembly um when did us or when did States change how they vote for senators since 1913 it might even be found I think we need to do a constitution stre I think in the original Constitution I think it was founded um I think in the original wording that no I don't think it would have been that the State Assembly show cers I don't remember where that was or might have been I don't know someday we'll go through all the Amendments and everything quick 940 while he yaps [ __ ] wait well I don't know if I restart this space if all the people will just join um wait sorry am I here hello hello sorry yeah we can hear you now hi what's up maybe sometimes it glitches oh I had to mute cuz that [ __ ] was like yapping for 30 minutes I just walked away and did something liter smashed my head into a wall for 10 minutes and it was a better use of my time than listen to that guy [ __ ] ramble on and on and on I think actually smarter for it too I think I actually endured less brain damage smashing my head against the wall words would have sufficed Destiny three of those words would have sufficed that [ __ ] those are the three words I needed thank you okay okay can we just move on to the Dan Dan from X is in the space he has a question I believe towards you Dan you can go ahead thanks cat yeah and I don't speak on any behalf of X whatsoever this is all my my own personal questioning and opinions um hey Destiny I I haven't seen your account until today but I saw something you posted about um the person who was murdered yesterday um May maybe it was just a troll or maybe I read it wrong but it seemed like were laughing at the situation um I I couple that with the fact that I heard like a passing reference to um you regret that you still live in America so I'm curious where you're coming from and sure so the first thing is I thought it was funny that a dude that was like deepthroating uh Putin on his Twitter account got merked at a insurrectionist rally event I thought that was kind of funny um and then the second thing the regret is that on I'm just answering both your questions the second thing was the regret is that half the citizens in this country right now seem to be like fully supportive of a guy who tried to uh launch an Insurrection against the government that's pretty wild so those are my two takes on that yeah I I don't want to touch the Insurrection thing I mean I think the court can settle that but like they settled everything else in favor of trump yeah did you say you thought it was funny that somebody was murdered for at a peaceful rally well I said merked but what do you mean by merked I don't I don't know he got shot he got killed murder is a pretty strong word shouldn't we let the courts decide you you don't think he was murdered you think that was an accident well I don't know it hasn't been evaluated yet I don't think it was an accident though weren't people saying that God guided the bullet and that's how Trump survived maybe God just really didn't like that one particular guy I I I feel like I'm wasting my time and you're just like extendedly the I've already given you the honest answer you just don't like it the honest answer is I have no sympathy I think it's kind of funny yes that's my answer you can try to ask that like 20 different times but that's my answer or whatever murder whatever the hell the guy was killed at peacefully at a rally yeah he might have responded to a a post with something that you disagree with or something hold on not just something that I disagree with something that is anti-democratic and he's supporting an insurrectionist so my sympathy is non-existent if [ __ ] happens I don't care shot so what you think somebody who expresses anti-democratic opinions on X should be shot I don't should be no number one people on X if you work at this platform or from all the world people are welcome to express whatever opinions they're totally different uh countries and groups of people whatever um number two if you're supporting a guy who tried to lead an Insurrection against the government should you be shot I probably don't think so and I don't think that's good but if you are shot am I going to lose any sleep over it no I'm probably going to make fun of you it happens because it's hilarious do you hear what you're saying you hear what you're saying hold on why do I why do I need to accept civility from people that are supporting an insurrectionist give me one positive argument there oh wait wait I I didn't hear what you said because I was still stuck on the you find it hilarious that somebody got shot oh okay I thought conservatives loved humor my bad let me know when I can I'll hit the second point up if you are still Stu on that one is that is that your sense of humor that when people support an insurrectionist and then they get shot and they're like wait what violence at the rallies for the guy that's saying we need to overthrow the Constitution yeah that's funny to me would would it be funny if so Insurrection you're saying it's funny because you you think this guy supports an Insurrection you have no idea his actual full views and opinions but well I know that he supports a candidate that tried to lead an Insurrection against the government can I [ __ ] finish well just don't misrepresent what I say geez okay so if there's an if there's an Insurrection say such as any of these invasions of of capitals from leftist protesters if they were shot you think that would be like would it would it be cool if I was if I thought it was funny that people got killed because they were doing something I didn't like or didn't agree like I'm just trying to figure out if you're actually just trolling for gez well hold on let me let me think that let me think about that for a moment would I would I actually think it would be funny if leftists um if leftists were to get shot at protests where they were engaging in violent and where they were opposed to like institutions like democracy I don't know Chief I'll get back to you on that one I'm not sure how I would feel about that you know I definitely don't have a a huge history of being incredibly critical towards communist and socialists who engage in is not the same as supporting murder or I didn't say I supported murder I just said it was funny laughing at murder that's a lot different than being critical I do think I think some of it is kind of funny and I will laugh at it the fact that one of the people that Written House killed was a pedophile I think that's kind of funny that written house was like 18 and he shot a d the touch kids while he was trying to touch R I think that's kind of funny personally and I bet you did too but when it happens to your side all of a sudden it's the worst thing in the world huh crazy how that works yeah I do think it's fun any crimes this guy was peaceful he wasn't committing any crimes he wasn't yes he was peacefully supporting an insurrectionist I'm aware of that I'm aware of that you can peacefully do a whole bunch of [ __ ] that that's he wasn't protecting his family okay oh really he wasn't protect he wasn't on top of his family protecting them I'm sure he was on top of something after he got shot fell over yeah but no I don't give a what he was doing after he should have been a rally spting an insurrectionist in my opinion I have a question about that so like maybe okay so if if he if the man that was killed that you find funny I guess um um like if he didn't you know follow it as closely as you did and read every single memo and every single indictment and he wasn't stop stop stop don't stop stop hold no no no wait stop stop characterizing my position as reads every single thing okay like it's it's it's like it feels like with conservatives if I show you a book like the barenstein Bears and I'm like can you read this cover to cover and you're like wow so if I can't read Moy dick I'm not allowed of an opinion on something I'm asking for the bare minimum of political knowledge the bare minimum like knowing what a president was charged with I'm not asking for something exceptional if he well well there's only two possibilities either one he had no knowledge in which case you're still supporting an insurrectionist in a democracy you have some minimum responsibility to understand your or two he had a a lot of knowledge in which case he's knowingly supporting an insurrectionist okay so despite without knowing what he uh knew it's it's still F AO yep yeah okay just wanted to clarify yeah no problem I got you okay and I would just like to say you know thanks for essentially eventually catching up and you know agreeing not to shout at people I think I I think I'm pretty brave for taking on the the brunt of of your rage in the very beginning I think maybe you're taking it out on me because you're angry with a whole lot of people and and I just happened to ask for a chat so I'm going to you know Overlook that and um say thank you for agreeing to somewhat moderate your tone when when you're speaking with the people so thanks for that sure also just to be clear the Cory [ __ ] like was tweeting out uh he SED for Putin and he supported the January 6 [ __ ] so just to be what do you mean what do you mean simped like can you can like there was some picture of four people and one of them was Putin it was like if you had to save any of the people in this picture which one would you save he was like I would save Putin and then he had a bunch it was a meme Hey listen I mean that's about all that you conservatives even engage with news Hest meme so that's about all I have to go on to figure out what your political opinion so sorry it seems to be the case yeah that when you tell me over when I say have you read the criminal indictment and you're like oh do I have to read the entire encyclopedia to have an opinion that kind of seems like what it seems yeah I didn't say it like that I would happily read uh a document that uh that you have read so I can also take a look at it and you know adjust or form an opinion based on that so cool I think I said that from the beginning I wasn't trying to uh you know not look at anything Lauren and I both mentioned that so I I think yeah we're willing to look at the information so I'm just curious since this guy it's apparently okay to laugh at his death because he commented something silly on a meme on Twitter no it was because he supported an insurrectionist to be clear stop miscar my position is so simple and unlike you guys I actually own it so I don't know why you guys keep misquoting my position it's so simple if you support an insurrectionist and [ __ ] happens to you I don't really give a and if you the way you die is funny I'm going to laugh at it that's my position it's very simple from A to B to C okay you don't have to make more [ __ ] up it's so easy to understand I think I cut out there for a second can you still hear me loud and clear can hear you Lauren okay yeah why why do you keep bringing up the meme thing if it has nothing to do with why you think it's funny that he died that makes him more funny okay so it does make it funny it makes it more funny it was funny before now it's extra funny what do you think should be done to uh insurrectionists or people that support insurrectionists like in your opinion what uh what should be done I mean if you've engaged in dire at the very least if you've taken a prior oath to office in the United States you should be barred from holding future office um that used to be part of our constition until the Supreme Court got rid of it because it was inconvenient for Trump um on a secondary level I mean if you've committed a crime I mean like crimes related instruction are kind of sketchy so it doesn't really seem like there's ways to charge that I don't think um so there's probably no criminal charge but culturally I think it should be heavily discouraged in the United States of America I don't think we should have a culture of accepting people that are engaged in sh that that want to have like Sharia law enshrined in some kind of legal Doctrine or that want to engage in Insurrection um against the US government like yeah these are things that I consider anti-American yes okay so let's say because you've talked a lot about how uh you know you've got half the country that now support Insurrection or whatever how can we have a democracy after this let's say it's 60 70% of Americans that quote unquote support an Insurrection what what is the answer to that if your analysis is correct and this was an Insurrection like what should Le this do if I mean you either at that point I mean you either yeah you either stand and fight or you leave I guess right question Oh sorry go on luren I'll ask yeah what does stand and fight look like I it depends on how you want to fight what do you mean so if let's say Trump wins this upcoming election I'm not you're not gonna I don't know if you're trying to get me to Fed post my account I'm not gonna say some [ __ ] especially some ex guy here trying give me [ __ ] Bann but it means exactly what you think it means I'm not mincing War I don't do what you guys do where you're like well when they said uh fight like hell and take your country back they actually just me March peacefully when I say fight I mean I mean it in in the in whatever sense you think I mean it is exactly how I mean it yes that is what I I mean yeah of course but also to be clear again because I'm not a spineless blubbery fck okay like you conservatives are I said the exact same thing with the January 6 protest is Right said if you legitimately think that the election has been stolen if you think then I understand why you would want to March and engage in violence and engage in discrection it makes sense to if you think that your country's been stolen from you which is what your corrupt president has led you to believe for year after year after year then yeah it makes sense why people would do it of course I would hold the exact same standard for the left and the right there the same one that I have help for both Sid trp wins this upcoming election you think that uh leftist should march on the capital violently um should they I don't know that's a that's a pretty tough question that point I know I guess it would depend on the actions I get I'm not push I'm not [ __ ] footing around I can't read the future there's a lot of people first of all you don't even know what's happening in the present so the idea that you're trying you don't know what's happening in the present or the past and you're trying to hold me to account for not predicting the future excuse me okay number one okay it would depend on the actions I guess the president takes and what happens from that point so I'm not sure well no no because you don't think he should be able to run for office again because he's an insurrectionist so he gets elected he shouldn't be in office right I mean personally how the Constitution went and that's been changed but so so if you are a pro-american if you love your country you're a patriot you should get up and probably do something about it right what like assassinate the president I don't know if that would be like the best idea it wouldn't be the best idea probably not you'd probably get caught I I if if stuff like this if there's violence if there's this is the same autistic arguments that you retards use for Ukraine and Russia where somehow Ukraine gets uh blamed on Russia invading their territory and fighting back you can't shoot missiles into Russia it'll lead to World War II whatever happens past the Trump election the conservatives own that that's what I would say regardless of what happens they own that that's their thing that's their path that's the exact that's the path they put the country onle I think you you're leaving room to say yeah maybe people should do something violent about it no first of all that's been the conservative land hold on I've never said that people should do something I've never used those words okay I'm not saying people should all right just the same way I haven't said the left right people should do a particular thing but I'm saying that if it happens if it happens I don't have any sympathy for it I don't know what people should and and it's obvious like the path that people are putting us on like that's a pretty obvious thing that when you make a president and you start changing the rules for that President and you put him above criminal conviction what the you think is going to happen at that point like it's it's an it's an undeniable like unavoidable path that you're going down okay so Trump gets elected people violently storm the capital you're gonna condemn that or not if Trump gets elected and people violently storm the capital um I don't know I'm not sure I'd have to think at the time I I'm like I'm Ling like 51% in supporting it I guess they start holding margerie Taylor green at gunpoint hostage you're not sure 50% you laugh but that's because in your world all the actions are the same because you have no idea what the is going on with anybody you didn't even know how this inter worked 20 minutes ago and now you're laughing you're like well well it's attacking every single person the exact say oh like you you're not even able to engage in the conversation so I don't know why you're laughing when you ask like well if somebody attacks somebody that is anti-democratic that Vates for the president to be held above all criminal liability do you think that's the same thing as when people wanted to steal AOC shoes don't you think that's the same thing as when they yeah that is what you're saying if something happens I don't know you can ask me about it then I'm not going to Future predict every potential thing I wasn't even referring to January 6 I was just saying if letis stormed the capital violently held people hostage at gunpoint would you defend I would say I would say that before Donald Trump tried an Insurrection I would be highly critical of all of that type of behavior that's what I would say but you'd be less critical now uh maybe who knows we'll see what happens all right interesting I saw diligent came up diligent I I have no hands so I'm just going to go by who's come up and wants to speak I was just kind of observing the exchange for a minute before I chimed in I I'm a late to the party so to speak so I was kind of M assessing Destiny's position because obviously he doesn't like it suggested uh I was kind of waiting for him to clarify since I was late but uh I think I get the gist of it uh we won't we won't get into hypotheticals uh so we'll stick to what we know has occurred already I think we can discuss that uh what is your position on the Summer of Love is that an Insurrection is that justifiable violence in the name of left-wing politics can you clarify your position on that because it kind of leads into I don't think that any part of it was an Insurrection I'm not aware of any plans to overthrow the government also you're talking about a huge range of protests in parts of protest where there was rioting involved and people were either violent or breaking curfews obviously I think that all of those people should be held as accountable as possible I I've never opposed any of that ever uh I don't know why you're trying to ask me both sides on an issue just because you're too cowardly to take a side against your own uh political party on one thing doesn't mean that I am I've been highly critical of riots in the past I'm quite famous for it so yeah I would say that anybody that engaged in illegal Behavior should be charged with illegal behavior and for the writing there obviously was a lot of that so I don't know what you want me to say for that that you think it's surprising there there was no Insurrection I don't know what this uh this kid is talking about there was there was no Insurrection okay I mean we can walk through it from start to finish do you think that Donald Trump sure do you think that Donald Trump had seven false lates of electors prepared um for states that he knew that he was going to lose or for states that he lost no no you're you're I'm telling about the march on the capital that it's that's yes that's the ending point to the Insurrection all of this is leading up to it all of this is part of it yeah so so wasn't Donald Trump been convicted of insurrection he has that's great we're not no one is talking about being convicted peaceful you know there there are people they marched towards the capital there was a protest some people took it too far a lot of idiots they just some stupid know why you'rea the same we don't need yeah I I know that what you guys like tell each other when you like step to the bathroom and you repeat the same [ __ ] over over again if you want to if you want to understand then we can do it but you have to walk through it from the very Happ Michael Michael Michel he's saying that the 2020 the 2020 riots were riots but the march on the capital that's not a riot that's an Insurrection to overthrow the government cat can you make me a cohost Jesus they didn't try and overthrow the government they walked on the capital people took it too far they went to the government they were being walked through the hallway by police and we already watched a video that's not what happened so the Insurrection okay the Insurrection was that Donald Trump tried to have false slates of electors that he wanted to be chosen on the election day so that he could be made the president even though he lost the vote there was a whole process of doing that and the culmination of that was on the day of January 6th he invited he invited I'm not I haven't finished talking you can you not hear do you have a memory issue if I speak for too many words do you lose the end of the sentence okay well let me finish my sentence let meish I know that I'm not spinning a narrative none of these people even nobody even denies any tampering with what if I said so far that's incorrect what if I shut the what do you play with the word you guys play with this [ __ ] like every [ __ ] day the leftist rarge what did I say that was incorrect sir what did I say that was incorrect sir they don't make what did I say that that was incorrect sir what what did I say that was incorrect you're conflating tampering with Insurrection these are two extremely different things Insurrection doesn't have to happen in in one day or one hour okay okay you're you're you're complaining too compl completely different understand gravity of the word Insurrection just like you probably don't understand the gravity of the word attempted assassination good one so the so the Insurrection so the in it wasn't well done missed okay the Insurrection okay was from the start to the finish it was Donald Trump setting up false lates of electors and then bringing tens of thousands of people to the capital to have those people rush to the capital in order to pressure the voters there using violence in order to select the fake electors that he had sent to Congress that was the you mean when he said peaceful protest outside the capital no I mean before that when he said we need to force them to accept our lawful slate of electors and we need Mike uh we need uh vice president Mike Pence to come through for us that's what I'm talking about you know that that talking about when you're talking about so that litigation could occur he was talking about delaying the process so no one you don't get to delay the election because you're ass mad that you lost all your court cases number one there was a time to challenge the and it had come and passed okay number two if you want to challenge it there are means to do that it's not to delay the certification of the [ __ ] it wouldn't be illegal for Mike Pence to delay the process absolutely would have been illegal it would have been unconditional it would have been the comp no he couldn't have been no he couldn't that's why he didn't do it thank God for him oh really then why then what was the pressure for then if he couldn't have done it then what is the point of pressuring him if it wasn't possible for him to do it I didn't say I didn't say it wasn't possible do it I said it's not possible to do it legally he couldn't do it legally but why do you think they were what do you think they were pressing to do I'm curious what do you think Donald Trump was referring to when he said we need Mike Pence to come through for us what was Donald Trump talking about tell me he didn't have to he didn't have to verify it he didn't have to ver verify so what did he want him to do he could he wanted him to delay he wanted him to withhold the verifying it uh in the capital that day that way litigation could occur so that he could get the final Counts from certain States and allow some court cases to go through that's what he was doing called a that's called you admit you admit that is resisting the peaceful transfer of power yes correct that that was the day that was the day to certify the votes and that he was trying to circumvent that process correct so so wait a wait answer that question correct was that correct did he try to delay the certification of the vote I don't have to I don't have to abide by your I mean you guys my I mean it's kind of my space it's not a Phil should I get you guys to be accountable for one time in life to answer a question cuz then you guys doing your own answer the way that you want me to Bro the fact of the matter is is that he called for a peaceful protest to pressure legally into legally delaying the process wasn't legal it was it wasn't legal it wasn't legal it wasn't legal it was not peaceful there you go it wasn't peaceful it wasn't legal and it delayed the process the certification what do we call that folks with a plan to overthrow the government that's an insurrection Insurrection that is he well somehow somehow hundreds of his followers didn't seem to get the message okay I just muted him for a second cuz like four of you are yelling and nobody can understand anything so if we can just get two people back and forth instead of you know a group yelling at each other um because nobody can hear a thing so I'm very much appreciate your time Destiny being here and whoever is coming to speak um please try to one at a time so that people can hear what you guys are saying because it's just so jumbled it's impossible to hear through through the multiple people talking over each other I I think we owe him answers and that's fine you know the important thing is discourse uh he asked was it peaceful there were people there that were peaceful there were people that were absolutely not there were some bad apples there and that's okay you know we got to recognize that at the end of the day we have to we have to recognize yeah 100% but that wasn't his question his question was whether or not Donald Trump a valid question was it peaceful you know there were peaceful there that were peaceful there were people there that were absolutely not that it's not a matter make trouble the question is when Donald Trump sent those people to the capital what was the goal it was it it was protest if the goal wasal day yeah they were just protest it was just a protest on the day they certified the vote why is it that when as soon as things got violent why did Trump wait hours to call his dogs off I don't know why did Pelosi not bring in the prop [ __ ] who just spoke right here how much of my money goes to welfare to take care of you every day can you even dress yourself can you wipe your own ass you fat [ __ ] I don't know who the is mentioned Pelosi right now my question was very simple okay my question was very simple do you need me to repeat it why didn't Donald Trump call off the sycophantic Savages that were riding at the capital why didn't he call them off if his goal was a peaceful protest not for hours why did he wait hours to do why did he wait hours to do it why did he wait hours to do it it's recorded why did he wait hours to do it but he didn't it it he's not in charge bro was he was he in charge he literally wasn't Char he was still the president yes he was Char so you asked me why I brought up you don't obviously you don't know how the administration runs the capital in Capital Security that's why I brought up Pelosi he wasn't in charge of Capital Security Pelosi was the house was DC police was that is who is responsible for security that day and the reason why he waited so long is cu he didn't know exactly what was going on because he wasn't the one directly in charge he was going on while he sat and watched it on TV drinking a diet coke with staffer after staffer coming in and begging him to call off his dogs when he was making phone calls to McCarthy saying well I guess some people are more what happened you have evidence that's what happened or is that laid out it's laid out in all the indictments his own daughter testifies to this Mark Meadows every other person nobody denies this only you retards that are on your knees okay trying to lick up the slurps of come up from Donald Trump on the floor deny this [ __ ] nobody denies it but you why are you denying when even Donald Trump isn't denying it nobody denies this do you think anything that I'm saying right now is contested that Donald Trump didn't sit in his office didn't sit in his room drinking a diet coke for like 3 hours while people begged him to call off the riots buddy that's not what happened he posted he posted right on Twitter respect the police he got it back down get out of there hours wait that wouldn't that be wouldn't that be conceding that he was responsible for them if he only if he did it at the very beginning it seems like the fact that he let it run on for hours you mean when called for a peaceful protest it what you're talking about the if you called for a peaceful protest and protesters were not peaceful would you wait 3 hours to tell them to be peaceful he told them to be peaceful before there was even a riot what are you talking about when there was a RI when there no longer in control like anybody else he's no longer in control then why is it that after tweeted out hey guys we need to respect the police and go home why did people go home after that you have to ask them I mean how about we use our brain for like 2 seconds what do you mean I have to ask them they were there on Donald Trump's Ord they were there marching 1776 we need to like get Mike Pence to save our country why why is it such a mystery for you to figure out what they were there exactly for what when he told them to go and get Mike Pence to do the right thing what was the right thing what were they Marching for what is 1776 what does that mean you mean when he said protest peacefully during it means he was giving enough plausible deniability for spineless hacks like you to come onto Twitter to try to defend him even though every single reasonable person knows exactly what's happening when he tells him to go down and encourage Mike Pence to do the right thing because if you don't fight like hell you're going to lose your country from the Congress trying to steal it from you so so you want us to believe thec like every [ __ ] thing that comes out your starts with so you so you so you so you can you not engage with like a single [ __ ] not direct not directly what he says ignore ignore what he said directly and just go into what it all implies alog together up to three hours after the fact right like it's ridiculous dude are suspensible movies made like more enjoyable to you with like having no short-term memory like does it just make life more entertaining in general or if like what what is it like having a mind that can only hold about like seven words at a time in it like I have to admit it man Destiny I totally disagree with you but uh these comebacks are funny as [ __ ] I mean you got to admire his energy I don't know what it is yeah it's just it's it's crazy because in any other circumstance like the the President says hey here like here's the plan in the simplest terms President says let's get seven states to make fake electors okay we're going to send them to the capital and I'm going to have a talk with P say Pence you really need to come through for us okay I'm going to Tweet out a ton of pressure on Pence to come through for us whatever the that means then I'm going to invite all of my fans on the day they do the certification the day that I plan to rig it and I'm going to go and I'm going to rile them all up there okay I know that there are people in the audience with weapons I know that my secret service told me that and I know that there're all R I'm going to send them to the capital saying they need to tell Mike Pence to do the right things and choose the lawfully elected Slaters and then when they go to the capital they start writing okay I'm going to sit in my room and I'm going to make phone calls and juliani is going to make phone calls to lawmakers saying maybe you guys should delay the certification maybe some of these people are more mad than you are maybe that's your fault guys and then after 3 hours when this doesn't happen when a lady gets shot in the basement then Donald Trump comes out and he tweets okay guys time to go home because his little plot failed it's so obvious for anybody there's that through line none of and the the satisying part is Donald Trump's defense to all of this isn't to say that didn't happen I didn't do that I didn't say his defense is to go before the Supreme Court of the United States and say I need absolute criminal immunity unless I've been impeached for a crime after the Republicans said we can't impeach him he's already out of office that's Donald Trump's defense your defense is to fabricate and deny Donald Trump didn't even bother denying he said that I was the president I can't be criminally prosecuted for it who are you carrying water for okay we have definitely not advice she has her hand up definitely not wice you you're a speaker you can unmute and if you have a question or a comment for Destiny you can go ahead okay so I just want to make sure that I fully understand the arguments here is that uh because Donald J Trump didn't respond quickly enough to shut down whatever was happening on January 6th uh we are making fun of people being shot at his rally because some random lone gunman decided to shoot at him for whatever reason and therefore that's acceptable and we're going to completely ignore the fact that within the last two weeks Joe Biden made a comment about putting Joe uh putting Donald Trump in the bullseye and then having multiple tweets sent out with that years of people calling him Hitler and indicating that we need to shut down all of these awful magga people at any cost we we're just ignoring all of that and we're just going to go ahead and focus on the fact that he was drinking a diet coke which by the way I'm glad he was drinking a diet coke at least it wasn't full sugar okay a Diet Coke full the wind that's great for your diet I'm glad he's really worried about his health but to be clear we're more worried about the fact that he was delayed in acting allegedly for January 6th and not that for the last year two or more people have been calling for action against any Republican who agrees with Donald Trump and that uh we should put him in the bullseye that's totally normal and acceptable according to you because he delayed his acting on January 6th just want to make sure we're 100% clear here you know some people they like they'll eat like the whole Oreo and then other times they twist them and then they like eat the frosting first cuz everybody has like their own process I'm curious for you do you like suck out like the blue parts of the Tide Pods first or do you eat the whole thing in one bite when you're CH down on them every night I've got to know is it the whole tide pod or do you do it part by part do you put out like 10 of them and eat the white part like in in in all 10 of them and then eat the rest of it or what a what a [ __ ] summary of everything that I said yeah you sound like a Vinnie thanks for the I'm done I'm good I'm out okay all right conservatives we've been too nice okay I know that I've picked up some conservative fans okay uh over the past few years maybe I don't know how long okay I know I got more I know I've got more than a thousand of you okay you are disgusting anti-American anti-patriotic and you are the cancerous rot that is destroying my country okay the uh okay so for people that were uh all over Twitter yesterday um this is my issue I guess explaining the long and the short of it is somehow Republicans have enjoyed the ability to act with impunity um in the most traitorous means possible in this country and and somehow we're supposed to treat them like ordinary citizens that are just exercising their Democratic voices and they have just as much legitimacy and just as much um right to their opinions in an American democracy as anybody else and that I'm I'm tired of pretending for four years that that's supposed to be a thing that people that are fully and willfully supporting a man that engaged in Insurrection that I'm supposed to treat that as like an equal opinion um and that like I'm supposed to sit here and have like pleasurable and nice conversations and I think looking back on it uh talking with Ben Shapiro Jordan Peterson any of these people uh I I already said that like I was worried like if I have more mainstream conversations I feel like this conversation going to be bad boring and now looking back on it I think they were bad and boring and I think it was cucked [ __ ] uh I don't think I have any desire to sit here and and pretend like somebody has the same value as a as an American citizen um as a person who like openly and wholly reports an Insurrection as president uh and I'm tired of pretending that way um in a democracy there should be multiple ways to hold people accountable and Trump has gotten to slide by all of them somehow uh he wasn't allowed to be impeached because because Republicans said well he's gone we can't impeach him anymore he he left we can't impeach a guy who's who's out of office that remember that is the only reason why he survived the conviction in the Senate is because enough Republicans said you go and look up the votes enough Republicans said he's out of office so we can't impeach anymore and then afterwards Donald Trump went before The Supreme Court and he said well uh I can't be criminally charged unless I'm impeached right somehow he get to have it both ways uh the Supreme Court gave him more than what he was asking for when it comes to criminal immunity the Supreme Court rewrote the Constitution and they disregarded the 14th amendment in order to have Donald Trump be qualified to sit as president again um and the um uh yeah he he was able to avoid conviction and he pardoned every single Criminal [ __ ] friend uh that he had in office uh when he was in office and he had the ability to to Pardon them I think that from now on when I engage with conservatives the first step is always and this should have been the strategy from [ __ ] day one and you know why it didn't happen uh it's because I wasn't read enough on it uh embarrassingly and ashamedly enough it's because I didn't follow enough on it because conservatives were so [ __ ] good at setting the media standard the agenda that I would have assumed well if something as unhinged as this is going to happen of course like the Liberals will talk about it but they aren't and instead we got more AirPlay over the past two weeks of Joe Biden okay looking like a bumbling [ __ ] than we did about the fact that the president of the United States now enjoys absolute criminal immunity when operating within his conclusive and preclusive powers of the president whatever the [ __ ] that means okay just to be clear none of these things like really mean anything when you get people coming out like oh presumptive immunity that didn't exist before uh Roberts wrote it into existence or when people come out they talk about um they talk about like oh the core powers of the what are the the core powers of the that didn't exist until Roberts wrote it into existence okay or when people talk about the Supreme Court it's like well uh actually uh Congress didn't make laws uh in the 14 they didn't make laws for uh for equal protections either they don't have to it's an amendment the Constitution doesn't need a law to enforce itself what the part of the Constitution has ever needed Congress to write a law saying that well this is what the Constitution says you don't need a law Constitution exists above Congress why the would you need Congress to enforce any part of the Constitution it's the Constitution but the um uh yeah the the every single conversation every single conversation needs to be do you acknowledge that Donald Trump let an Insurrection that's the start and if they don't believe that then you walk them through the process because remember none of the Insurrection is even contested none of it is contested the only way that Donald Trump fought against the Insurrection charge was one is he told the Supreme Court not directly but he got the Supreme Court essentially to rewrite the Constitution so that he could serve an office again even if he was an insurrectionist that was number one and number two was asking the Supreme Court for immunity from all criminal charges while acting as president those are the two methods that he employed in order to uh in order to fight against uh what he's been uh uh publicly accused of and in some cases criminally charged of doing that's the that's the first thing that you walk him through number one and then the second thing I would just be curious why did Donald Trump pardon every single person uh in his administration of charg of crime people like manafort number three why isn't Donald Trump going with the same vice president that he had before isn't that kind of strange why is it that none of Donald Trump's past cabinet members seem to be supporting his run for president isn't that kind of strange why is it why is it that nobody that's worked with Trump why has he turned his back on almost all of these people isn't that kind of weird these are the things these are the things that you should exclusively ask conservatives about and conservatives want to talk about anything else there's two things you can do you can either say hold on I need you to answer these questions first and if they don't then you walk the away because they're not even worth the conversation don't evening waste your oxygen talking to these people because they're not worth it okay this this is the only way that conservatives should be treated just as a fair warning publicly okay post this to all your conservative com if I get invited on any conservative show any program I don't give a it's to play mini golf okay from now on whatever I get invited for that's where the conversation starts and we'll spend all 60 to 120 to 180 to 240 minutes however to five hours however the [ __ ] long you want to talk we will sit we will talk and we will go through step by step of how Donald Trump tried to insur the government before I'm willing to go any further in a conversation and you should treat every single conservative the same every single conservative the exact same you want to talk about Biden being mentally unfit to to lead office before we can even have that conversation we're going to talk about why Donald Trump is morally unfit to have office okay that's that's where the all the conversations should be at but did your conversation with nolles Legion no unfortunately my conversation with nolles was actually a lot of fun we did a drinking game and it was just kind of like a meme whatever conversation but um seeing the unhinged response that Tres are having uh to the assassination attempt where all of them were like what this is crazy how can liberals be supporting VI it's like f eat [ __ ] oh my [ __ ] god please elaborate on how the Supreme Court disregarded the 14th Amendment the Supreme [Applause] Court the 14th amend wait sorry how do I get to the entire this is the this is the section three there are five sections of this how do I see the full 14th Amendment I don't know why it's only I shouldn't have looked for section three hold on I'm about to go to the exact same place the 14th Amendment had five different sections to it one of the sections that were passed after the Civil War well part of the 14th I passed after the Civil War is that no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress or elector of president and vice president or hold any office civil or military under the United States or under any state who having previously taken an oath as a member of Congress or as an officer of the United States uh or as a member of any state legislature or as an executive or judicial officer of any state to support the Constitution of the United States shall have engaged in Insurrection or Rebellion against the same or given Aid or Comfort to the enemies thereof but Congress May by a vote of two-third of each house remove such disability okay this was a part of the Constitution um because it's in an amendment and this was passed after uh the Civil War because we didn't want people who were insurrectionists to run for office again and if I recall correctly the strongest argument that the court used was that the states have no right to enforce Section 3 because in Section 5 there's an enforcement Clause that says the Congress shall have power to enforce by appropriate legislation the provisions of this article and the ahistorical interpretation um I don't like to use a I don't like the word ahistorical I'll say the fantastically histor because Cong this uh this Supreme Court will invent history or borrow creatively from history when they when they desire to um their reading of of this uh their reading of this Clause was to say that if Congress doesn't pass a law it must not come into effect which is interesting given that there didn't have to be any laws coming into effect for section one which is where we get equal protection from crazy how that works there wasn't an argument and we read and if you want you can go back in my VOD and you can see it okay for the court case of brown Board of Education okay it's an easy read it's like 14 pages at no and brown Board of Education did they say hey well hold on Congress hasn't passed laws yet saying we need to desegregate schools Congress didn't pass a law for this well we don't actually know if equal protections would apply here because Congress hasn't spoken on it yet it's this court is unhinged okay this court is unhinged but I'm sorry when you ask me about the 14 Amendment Section 3 thing there was a provision to an amendment that was specifically made to say that like oh well if you've if you've engaged in intera or you like help people down you shouldn't run for office again and the Supreme Court said well actually that's actually a really inconvenient Clause right now why was the decision 90 the decision wasn't 90 um the decision was 63 however for matters of uh for matters of coherency and uh legitimacy of the court and for bringing America together for some reason uh Brown uh Sodor and Kagan were dragged along like clueless blubber in [ __ ] by the majority and instead of having a 63 opinion which when the original document came out you could contr F in the PDF and find that it had I think it was three decisions dissenting in part but they changed it to be a 90 decision because they wanted to bring America together and heal surprisingly that same rhetoric seemed to be absent when talking about say the Chevron decision America being united he there didn't seem to matter and it also seemed to be surprisingly absent in the criminal immunity decision the fact that Americans might be incensed that the president is now a king above criminal prosecution also seem to be absent from Robert's writing there uh when it came time to talk about that I don't know seems pretty crazy that the court selectively they've got like a toolbox of arguments that they use and they pick and choose for whatever seems to be politically expedient for them at the time but did they literally say they wanted to bring America together uh I believe they did it's been a while since I've read this decision uh but I'm the only commentator that talks about any of this [ __ ] online that reads any of these [ __ ] decisions but we can go back and look at it but I it was something along I think it might have been around the line where they talk about a patchwork of unworkable laws and um or maybe it might have been did so did my my write a concurrence at the bottom um let's see where is this research uh Library [ __ ] I need to get better at navigating my folders I don't know if I taken um was it the Anderson one it was I think it was Anderson oh when they wrote their concurrence here I don't think they included that it might maybe it was in the oh it might have just been here okay it was with um it was with Barrett's concurrence Justice Barrett concurring in part and concurring in the Judgment I join Parts one and 2 b of the Court's opinion I agree that states lack the power to enforce Section 3 against presidential candidates that principle is sufficient to resolve this case and I would decide no more than that this suit was brought by Colorado voters under state law in state court it does not require us to address the complicated question whether Federal legislation is the exclusive vehicle through which section 3 can be enforced also you want to talk about like textual reading and like you know whatever the [ __ ] agree with her or disagree with her I have yet to read something um and it was funny because she was supposed to be the most unhinged Justice uh Amy con Barrett seems like the most reasonable conservative on the court I also really like the way Gorsuch writes um but just my my opinion I I don't think I've seen Amy write anything where I'm like God what [ __ ] idiot um like I have for Roberts and Theo arguably and definitely uh Thomas Jesus Christ Clarence Thomas is actually a [ __ ] skitso um but sorry just in reading this okay um that principle sufficient resolve the question before the court okay the majority's choice of a different path leaves the remaining justices with a choice of how to respond in my judgment this is not the time to amplify disagreement with stency the court has settled a politically charged issue in the volatile season of a president IAL election particularly in this circumstance writings on the court should turn the national temperature down not up for present purposes our differences are far less important than our unanimity all nine justices agree on the outcome of this case that is the message Americans should take home [ __ ] you um Brown is their middle name oh wait is it is it brown Jackson Jackson might be the last name sorry I mixed the I mix it to up sometimes is it it's Jackson Kagan and S myor but the um yeah this is where where was this turned the temperature down where was this in the immunity case excuse me what I don't care what they're talking about the Twitter space I'm good I agree with Chevron in this ruling but immunity was [ __ ] wild um I think that Gorsuch in my opinion don't tell Gorsuch made a very compelling argument for Chevron I don't think this decision was defensible but maybe um the immunity one was just the most unhinged [ __ ] I don't know where well I guess I just haven't read enough decisions yet to get a feel for all the justices the idea that Roberts is the center of this court and could write such an amateurish uh ghoulish [ __ ] opinion is unreal to me but yeah um I'm trying to think of anything else will you join another Twitter space in the future uh maybe yeah yeah we can probably do I need to figure out how to host him um when cat was muting me though it was fair cuz we were all just like screaming over each other so um real quick hold on because I see some people this is actually a disgusting moment for someone I respect so much l Destiny okay I don't have time to respond to all of you um if you're disappointed in my take today and it's like one of the biggest things is standing on your mind just know that I am thinking of you as the cancer rotting my country okay or if you're a foreigner then you're going to have whatever dumb [ __ ] opinion you have do you really think Ben Shapiro is bad faith ABS [ __ ] lutely of course he is um yeah just know that okay that you are the Cancer all right rotting this country and the idea that you're more mad about anything that I'm saying about laughing at some Putin simp [ __ ] [ __ ] getting blasted away at some [ __ ] uh RI or not RI or Rally or whatever the [ __ ] okay if you think that my opinion on that is like abhorent and you've been blind or silent or civil about the conservatives marching really their own party in this country of a [ __ ] cliff eat [ __ ] okay or eat the blue parts of the pods first but um okay I'm trying to think of everything else tomorrow which just back to reading uh I think I'm just gonna I'm just going to be like a reading streamer um we have all these notes we want to get through I think I'm pretty much done with the Iranian hostage thing um most of this yeah and we'll just read and read and read because why not what the [ __ ] else is there to do um remember if you're a republican who supports Trump I do hate you don't forget that I'm not meing it's not a joke okay I know I have more of you out there okay get the [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here I know there are more of you okay August don't edit that out of the video okay I know there are more of you I know there more I know you're hiding out there okay unsubscribe are you worried how this will affect your mainstream appearances no because I don't give a [ __ ] about cuck mainstream appearances anymore I don't care and I regret that I took part in them in the Civil way that I did when I had Jordan Peterson in front of me he should have left that room crying okay he should have been slamming his his uh his his benzo rotted [ __ ] brain against the wall in humiliation that some music school dropout [ __ ] could run circles around him because his exclusive source of news is [ __ ] Twitter okay no I I regret or the fact that I could sit across from Ben Shapiro and have this whole line of questioning That was supposed to follow don't you guys think that Donald Trump is kind of graded on a curve from conservatives and you go yeah I do gr him on a curve and I do accept that he probably tried to insurrectos will hold that should have been like a that should have been a nuclear moment and we should have spent the entire rest of the conversation on that um instead of letting us Drift from topic to topic to topic uh I fully regret any time that I sat across from a conservative and I didn't hold them to account for the destruction that they are Marching this country toward and instead I maintained the a civil conversation with him they the conversation should have all been way more harsh um or for [ __ ] like Constantine who will sit here and use their own supposed Ukrainian family I don't even know if he has Ukrainian relatives if they did I would imagine they want to [ __ ] kill this Putin simp [ __ ] okay that I would just sit there and let him lie to me uh about [ __ ] going on in Ukraine um by by bringing up supposed [ __ ] family there or whatever no I shouldn't no shouldn't have tolerated any of this in any reason it should have been way more aggressive um [ __ ] these people uh they don't deserve respect as American citizens okay they should have been treated as such [ __ ] them all right remember okay marching orders going forward okay every conservative the conversation starts with Insurrection and if they won't acknowledge that there's no reason to talk about a single other [ __ ] thing okay it starts with Insurrection number one um [ __ ] what were the other two things uh one thing is why does Trump pardon all of his Criminal [ __ ] friends uh and the third thing is why is he running with a different vice president a different vice president why won't any of his cabinet members before back him why are they all different that these should be the three things that every single concern before they even want to talk about anything else if your mom comes into the room and she asks you do you want to order chicken tenders from McDonald's or Burger King and your mom is voting for Trump the first words out of your mouth should be mom do you think Donald Trum Eng an Insurrection and you don't answer that question until she answer your series okay she has to walk through all three before she door dashes you any chicken tenders all right every single conservative every single conversation needs to start with these three questions and then one once you've gotten through all of those three okay once they've admitted he pardoned all of his criminal crony [ __ ] friends because he is a criminal crony [ __ ] um he tried to insurrectos enough to Trump you can smell the corruption and treason on him once they've admitted all those three things then they can ask you do you think that Biden is kind of SE like yeah I think he kind of seal then it's totally fair at that point yeah sure we can talk about our issues