‘The Five’: Gold Star families defend Trump, call out Kamala Harris

♪ ♪ >> Dana: GOLD STAR FAMILIES OF THE 13 HEROES KILLED ARE DEFENDING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S VISIT TO ARLINGTON CEREMONY AS PRESIDENT HARRIS SAID THIS. DONALD TRUMP'S TEAM CHOSE TO FILM A VIDEO THERE RESULTING IN AN ALTERCATION WITH CEMETERY STAFF. LET ME BE CLEAR, THE FORMER PRESIDENT DISRESPECTED SACRED GROUND ALL FOR THE SAKE OF A POLITICAL STUNT. BUT THOSE FAMILIES INVITED HIM, AND THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT IS PORTRAYING THE SOMBER EVENT. WATCH. >> WE WANTED A LEADER, THAT EXPLAINS WHY YOU AND JOE DID NOT GET A CALL. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN THERE FOR US FROM THE BEGINNING. >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, I ASK YOU, WHY WON'T YOU RETURN A CALL AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU CALL MY DAUGHTER-IN-LAW'S DEATH A SUCCESS. >> Dana: WE HAD THE WOMAN JUDGE WHO INVITED PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ONE OF THE MOMS ON NEWSROOM TODAY. LET'S LISTEN TO HER. >> WE ARE JUST SO TIRED. I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN DISRESPECTED SO MUCH IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS, NO RESPONSE FROM THEM. DONALD TRUMP, NO, BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN THERE FOR US. HE IS BEEN THE ROCK. HE IS BEEN THERE FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PEACE AND CARRIED THAT BRIEF WITH US FOR A WHILE. THAT'S WHAT HE DID THAT DAY. IT MAKES NO SENSE THEY THROW DAGGERS AT US OR HIM, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY WEREN'T THERE. >> Dana: HAS KEMAL HARRIS DECIDED TO PROTEST TOO MUCH. >> Judge Jeanine: I THINK SHE DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH AND IT'S WORKING AGAINST HER. THERE IS -- YOU WOULD NOT RETURN A PHONE CALL FROM A MOTHER WHOSE DAUGHTER WAS KILLED IN AN ATTACK THAT COULD'VE BEEN PREVENTED HAD THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BEEN CLEARER OR SOMEONE GIVEN THE ORDER, YOU CAN TAKE THE SHOT WHERE NO ONE IS GOING TO BE INJURED OTHER THAN THE SUICIDE BOMBER. BUT WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE? THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES? ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE THE ANGEL MOTHERS LIKE THE MOTHER OF JOCELYN AND GARY OR THE MOTHER OF RACHEL LAKEN RILEY, OR JONATHAN DILLER'S FAMILY, I MEAN, THE PEOPLE LOST SO MUCH AND I HAVE NO IN POLITICS WHATSOEVER, WHEN THEY SPEAK AND YOU JUXTAPOSE WHAT THEY SAY AGAINST PEOPLE WHO ARE IN POWER AND WHOSE POWER AND POLICIES HAVE LITERALLY CONTRIBUTED TO OR DIRECTLY CAUSED THE DEATH OF YOUR LOSS, I MEAN, THIS IS A REALLY EASY CHOICE TO MAKE. AND IN THE END, THIS SO-CALLED APPARENT ALTERCATION THAT TOOK PLACE AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY AGAINST KAMALA'S TRYING TO TWIST INTO DONALD TRUMP TEAM CAUSED A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THERE WAS AN ALTERCATION, GET YOURSELF AN AFFIDAVIT THAT'S SWORN TO, BUY YOURSELF SOME CRIMINAL CHARGES OR SHUT THE F UP, BECAUSE THE FAMILIES WANT YOU TO SHUT THE F UP AND THEY ARE TELLING YOU WE WE DON'T WANT YOU. YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, YOU ARE NOT AT THE TRANSFER OF THE CASKETS COMING OF NUMBER CALLED US AND YOU DON'T ANSWER HER PHONE CALLS, WHAT COULD BE WORSE? >> Dana: SHE WAS THE LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM, GREG. >> Greg: EXACTLY AND I FIND IT INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THE MEDIA DIRECTS THEIR ATTENTION OR WHERE YOUR ATTENTION SHOULD GO, SO WHAT DESERVED ATTENTION, DONALD TRUMP AT ARLINGTON, WHAT DESERVES ATTENTION? KAMALA SLAMMING HIM ON X, BUT WHAT DOES NOT DESERVE ATTENTION AS A UNIFORM RESPONSE FROM THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES. I AM NOT SURE THAT PEOPLE SAW WHAT THEY JUST SAW ON ANY OTHER NETWORK. I LOOKED FOR IT. I CANNOT FIND IT. SO THIS PROCESS OF ATTENTION DIRECTION IS INSTRUCTING YOU HOW TO THINK ABOUT THE ELECTION. DON'T YOU DARE FIND OUT THAT DONALD TRUMP DONALD TRUMP WAS INVITED AND THAT THE FAMILIES WANTED HIM THERE OR THAT JOE BIDEN HAD EXPLODED MILITARY PHOTO OPS MORE THAN ANYONE. HE WAS AT ARLINGTON AND TALKED ABOUT HIS POLITICS AS HE DECLARED THAT HE WAS NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION. THE STORY DESERVED REVERENCE AND I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE SHOWING REVERENCE BY NOT ENGAGING IN THE MEDIA BACK AND FORTH, WE DID NOT DISCUSS IT. WE DID NOT WANT TO GET IN THE SLOP, BUT THEN KAMALA FRESH OFF OF CNN CATASTROPHE HAD SOMEBODY TO EAT IT FOR HER, AND NOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT HER BEING THE LAST PERSON IN THE ROOM TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT LED TO THE MURDERS, AND DID NOT ENGAGE WITH THE FAMILY OR SHOW UP, THEN PRIORITIZED A HOT TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP, BUT NOT THE WISHES OF THE FAMILIES OF THE DEAD SHOULDERS -- SOLDIERS. SHE SHOULD HAVE BACKED OFF THE LINE, BECAUSE SHE WALKED INTO THE PAST FEATHERS AND CANNOT HELP HER NOW. OH, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY WILLIE BROWN. >> Jesse: YOU CAN SAY IT. >> Greg: WE SPENT EIGHT YEARS TALKING ABOUT TRUMP'S AFFAIRS, WE CAN GIVE HER SOME AREA IN THAT ARENA, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE SEXIST. AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RACISM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STORMY, WE SHOULD ALSO TALK ABOUT KAMALA. >> Dana: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES AT THE MOMENT. I WONDER, HAROLD, IF THE VICE PRESIDENT'S TEAM DID NOT EXPECT TO THEIR FAMILIES TO PUSH BACK IN DEFENSE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP AND IN DEFENSE OF THEIR LOVED ONES AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE? >> Harold: I DON'T KNOW. IT'S UNFORTUNATE ON A LOT OF LEVELS, TWO THINGS CAN BE RIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS RIGHT TO ACCEPT THE INVITATION OF THE PARENTS OF THE FALLEN SOLDIERS TO ATTEND THE SITE AND CEREMONY, AND I DIFFER WITH YOU SLIGHTLY, HE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS TEAM DID NOT VIOLATE ANY RULES AT THE CEMETERY IN TERMS OF TAKING VIDEO, THE NATION SHOULD COME FORWARD AND SAY EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. >> Judge Jeanine: THEY HAVE. >> Harold: DID THEY OWN UP TO THE FACT THAT THEY TOOK VIDEO? I HEARD PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE WE CAME ON SAID HE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE VIDEO AND THE ONLY REASON HE WAS THERE WAS BECAUSE THE FAMILY INVITED HIM. SPEAK ON THE ISSUE IS THAT SOMEONE SHOVED SOMEONE WORKING AT THE CEMETERY. >> Harold: RIGHT, SO THAT COULD BE RIGHT ALSO, BUT BOTH THINGS WILL BE WRONG AND FILMING THE VIDEO. BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE DISTRACTING FROM HER TWO THINGS. THE FAMILY'S GRIEF AND TWO, I SHARED LAST WEEK, I STILL HAVE NOT GOT A FULL ACCOUNTING OF WHAT HAPPENED. I KNOW I LIKE A LESSONS LEARNED EXERCISE AT ALL TIMES ON WHAT DID THEY LEARN, WHAT WENT WRONG AND WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO NOTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN? I GET I WON'T CRITICIZE THOSE FAMILIES WERE SAYING THEIR POLITICAL VIEWS, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT, BUT IT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS TEAM ALSO WERE TRYING TO FILM SOMETHING AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN WITH THE WORKER, THEY SHOULD COME FORWARD AND TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT AS WELL. >> Jesse: WHEREVER DONALD TRUMP GOES HE IS BEING FILMED COME JUST LIKE WHEREVER JOE BIDEN GOES, JUST LIKE OTHER POLITICIANS COMING UP SEEING THOSE THINGS USED IN CAMPAIGN NIGHTS. IN TERMS OF THE INCIDENT, THERE WAS NO INCIDENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND A WOMAN HAD A MENTAL ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TDS OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IT WAS HANDLED AND MINOR, AND THAT WAS IT. THIS IS BECAUSE MSNBC WENT BUCK WILD BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO COVER BECAUSE EVERYTHING DONALD TRUMP DOES THEY HAVE TO MAKE A SCANDAL. THEY MADE THIS A SCANDAL FOR A WEEK, KAMALA, IT WAS HER CAMPAIGN MANAGER, PROBABLY PUT OUT A RELEASE ON IT AND IT BLEW UP IN HER FACE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. AND SO, I FEEL BAD FOR DONALD TRUMP, I FEEL EVEN WORSE FOR THESE FAMILIES WHO HAVE DECIDED AN OPEN WOUND IS PICKED OUT BY THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IN MSNBC, IT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND SHOULD NOT OF BEEN A SCANDAL AT ALL AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET OVER IT. >> Greg: I HAVE TO REITERATE THIS, AND THE MEDIA COVERED THE INITIAL PART OF THE STORY AND THEN THERE ARE THE FAMILIES THAT THEY LEAPFROGGED OVER THE FAMILIES AND NOW WE ARE DOING A DIFFERENT STORY ABOUT THE SAME -- SO IT LITERALLY WIPED OVER. >> Dana: THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF WHY THE FAMILIES WERE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> Jesse: THEY HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH VETS ON THE LEFT, HUGE PROBLEM AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO HELP. >> Harold: I'M NOT SURE THAT NOTHING HAPPENED. >> Dana: I THINK THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT HELPS THEM WITH A SMALL SLIVER I'M RIGHT NOW IF YOU ARE AND THEN I FIGHT I