✭ Bryan Broaddus discusses Deuce Vaughn and the running back room || 53 man roster projection

and let's run this for the cardio Brian BRS that got some got some questions for you today man I'm doing just fine I'm sure you are as well you know what I wasn't G to ask you because I know you're doing just fine I'm doing just fine too I know you are man I wouldn't think anything else but that yeah I'm I'm lying to you already Vos I'm lying yeah I'm not doing fun I'm hurt too I'm hurting too trying to look down his roster and figure out what the hell going on I'm hurt too I'm not I'm not doing fine because I'm sitting here stressing like I'm sitting in that room there at the star or any other place have ever been and I'm stressing on a 53rd guy yeah you know but here I am let's go man Brian BR I was watching the game man I was I was like damn boy I I've coached a little bit of offense offensive line and you know yeah you know if you offensive line coach you you can kind of Coach running backs too you know what I'm saying it's just oh the Cowboys prove that all the time guys yeah we just move around got we coach you whatever you want hey you know if you a if you're a high school old line coach they'll throw you with the dline sometime you know you you you you but man I ain't never coached special teams before Bri I have no expertise in special teams I don't even know what they even teach over there I don't all I know is Gunner and personal protector I don't know [ __ ] but man Brian I started I started thinking about how hard people's jobs are you know like it's hard to be CD lamb that's a tough job it's hard to be Dak Prescott that's difficult we see that jobs they're hard hard jobs yeah Michael Parts you know hard job and and when it come to special teams I imagine trying to be kavante turbin is difficult that's explosive right there that's Mom and Dad it's hard to be like him Mom and Dad yep Mom and Dad Brian how hard is it to teach somebody the things that Malik Davis does for this team you know you whispered this you you whispered this in our ear about three weeks ago and we didn't listen we hardheaded kids man we don't listen to [ __ ] I was like Malik Davis Brian tripping and man the closer we get man that boy that Malik Davis talk gets loud and he play all the Special Teams BR I'm like man he plays all the Special Teams how hard is it to teach somebody how to play all the Special Teams you know yeah CJ good is like he run fast and he's a good how hard Sam Williams did it for a little while how hard how hard Sam Sam Williams got her attention didn't he how hard yeah big old body running down the field like that yeah so Brian if bones fossil politics gets in the way of better dudes making this roster yeah I just want to know how hard it is to find a new personal protector or how hard it is to find a new Gunner or how hard it is to find some that th1 th2 run and go tackle how hard is it to find somebody to do that Brian BR I'll tell you what uh special teams coaches don't make it easy on any of us to figure that out uh I I can't tell you how many times I've watched special teams practice and looking at it and think okay you have to have a little skill to do this some skill to do that yeah okay you get rid of guys I just see guys that have a lot of effort a lot of desire a lot of just mean SOB type guys that do this and this is the thing that kills me because I'm to that point and you're you're you're walking me right down that path right now how I'm trying to think like okay I understand Malik Davis I get it you know I get it you don't have running backs that don't play special teams Zeke ain't playing special teams Rico D at one time played special he ain't playing special teams anymore not it's a backup guy so all of a sudden you're thinking okay well who's that guy well God we got this du vaugh well du Von is a shorter guy I mean du Von plays with a huge heart yeah Blitz pickup Step Up toughness I mean he he gives you everything he has for you know he's a short guy and so you wonder does that affect how he's able to be a personal protector somebody that's one of the blockers on the punting or you know one of these things I mean he there's there's things that he that he does that because his lack of height limit how effective he could be so now I'm sitting there thinking okay I'm looking at this Julius wood yeah that safety and in my mind I'm thinking i' don't want to lose Julius wood even though I I almost guarantee you VOS yeah that if I put him on the street he'll come back because that's the way it is that's you know every time we we can't we can't you know every time you argue this stuff yeah all these dudes show back up yeah so that means maybe Malik Davis will show back up if I put him out back out there you know so I don't think it's hard to teach a guy to do it I think you have to have the skill to do it sure but if they're only going to let me carry 53 players in a you know and then 46 to play in a game I got to figure out who my guys are going to go to the game you know I got to figure that out and I guess they're thinking that they will take they will take Malik Davis to the game just because the point that you made I think a couple of shows ago when you're talking about Zeke yeah and you're talking about Rico D's Health yeah and all of a sudden it turns into wow wow that cat has to play whoever that third guy is we have to take him off special teams and we got to go put him in the offense now so maybe that's why my thought of when I broke down my 53 my three running backs alphabetical orders how I put them in there D Elliot vaugh and you know what I kept I kept Julius wood because you know what I'm going to play special teams with him sure I mean I'm G to if you're going to tell me Malik Davis I gotta fine this forces me now to have to dress Duce Fawn is what this does and I'll have to figure out some scheme you know they were trying to they were trying to figure out scheme things in the OTAs till the guy got hurt he got hurt in training camp all of a sudden all the scheme ideas went out the window but you could see it man he's running with more he's running with toughness he you know Trey Lance trying to throw him the ball on the outside that Trey's got that long motion and it you know the whip of the arm and he sits on his back foot and the ball flies on him sometimes yeah it's hard to throw the ball to a shorter guy it's hard so you know but anyway to your point your question I'm going on and on please this pisses me off in a way because I I agree with you I think you could teach guys to do this do they have the talent to do this is Davis that it's it's kind of the same argument with you know with CJ J Goodwin is this guy A Difference Maker for keeping a roster spot to Bones fossil he is okay I'll give you that one how many more of these you gonna take from me you know how many more you gonna take and these coaches do that's what they do they they it's my guy it's my Guy Brian let me let me ask you a question that I'm sure you know the answer to your answer give me your answer on that about Malik yeah no I mean can you teach what do you have to do to teach a guy because I do I go out there and watch and it seems like there's of of an hour and a half or two hour practice seem like there's 30 minutes of special team stuff sure I'm watching them try and Coach up wide receivers who who've never played special teams in their life trying to get you know trying to get racy McMath to cover punts yeah you know I mean they they try yeah but if it's costing me an opportunity for a guy because you know you you you don't have Malik Davis and you have somebody else playing special teams then they D they have to dress Duce Fawn well th this is my whole thing with Davis Brian first of all let me ask you a question that I'm sure you know to answer to already but some people may not yeah Brian did you know that Devin Hester play a cornerback I did not know he was a quarterback now well damn that proves my that proves my point even better he was a wide receiver at some point but he was a cornerback first I thought he was always a wide receiver at first he was but he was a cornerback first you want to know why you ain't know he was a damn quarterback because he was so special on teams that it didn't matter what he did there you go Malik Davis ain't that yeah CJ goodn ain't that see that's that's where I'm at right now I agree I need Slater the guy at New England if if I I'll tell you guys we we talked about Jeff Heath special special Jeff Heath you know Aisha morson again talking about her this morning I Aisha morson goes that guy was an mfer yeah if you had your kicker says I'm hurt he's kicking a field goal for you sure or kicking off yeah you know that's that's that that to me is a roster spot that's a roster spot for a guy I think W would be perfect at it you know what I'm saying and I'm sure all it has to be is hey W when you D say said Hut mother like it it can't be that much right but BR I noticed everything I know the Small Things big things nuances and you know when Malik Davis was the first running back that they rolled out there the first thing that popped in my mind was man I wonder if they're trying to sell us on the idea that Malik Davis can be a serviceable running back for you sure sure I wonder if this is what because they rode him out first like it was him and then they rode um Roy and then it was Duce in that order and then after a while Duce stopped part do stopped being part of that rotation it was a whole bunch of Malik Malik even played into the third course he was a punt returner they they kept him on as the punt return guy sure and I'm up here I'm like man are they trying to convince us that Malik can do this because if they're trying it's not working I actually walked away from this thinking worse about Malik at at at running back than I did at first because I knew he wasn't competing with Rico or Zeke or anything like that and Brian trust me there's Cowboy fans that feel there's some that feels like Malik can compete with Rico and dece but now this showed me that Malik can't even compete with Royce and vau Freeman and vau bro yeah yeah so man I'm up here looking at this and I'm just talking myself through it Brian I'm like man you can leave that dude out cuz Duce Von showed me Brian and man it wasn't just the Barry Sanders stuff man he getting tough yards now BR he put He putting his head down and he dragging people he had a he had a he had a B run face mask at the end then he had a big ass return that got called back cuz of holding man Deuce is proving his point here you can't look at me and be like well V I understand what you're saying about dece the runner dece the blocker dece The Return Man Malik Davis is a personal protector Ving he's our fifth best running back that ain't doing it for me BR that ain't doing it for me I'll even I'll even go light at tight end and offensive line just to make all this make sense just to make all this make sense like the whole thing we've been having conversation about hey can you put lipy as your fourth tight end just carry another running back I'm doing that at this point just to keep and I don't want to sound this way about Malik Davis man because he he probably love our show but man no offense dog but this is the best 53 guys yeah everybody's making big plays but you 57 making big plays 14 played the whole game making bigger plays than you right and meanwhile Malik Davis is down to to the fifth running back and you just can't justify keeping him here when there's dudes that can make this team yeah we're up here talking about isra momu as a 52nd 53rd 54th wherever he may fall Izzy or Davis that's a easy conversation 57 or Davis uh Harvey not Harvey Johnson it's Buddy Johnson yeah Johnson Buddy Johnson or Davis this is you uh you are talking about wood on Wood's interception this deflected the damn ball I say all right vigil trying to make your way out here Nick vigil or viel how you say his name I'm like man Malik Davis just hasn't made enough plays for me and I hope politics don't hit this hard so now I'm looking on the roster like man what dude can can I teach to be a personal protector yeah what dude can I teach this job to what dude can I teach punt Gunner to yeah cuz I it's just not adding up to me Brian so I'm I'm sure me and you going to do a roster exercise Tuesday when they when they when they drop all this stuff and everything's going to be going to change from here and out but man if you if you if you put Malle Davis out on the street nobody going to look at Malle Davis be like yo we got to have that dude on we got to take him from the Cowboys because he's special on special teams yeah if if that was the case there wouldn't be any argument here wouldn't be he his his I I've moved past I've moved past the CJ Goodwin one yeah too because I I'm not going to I'm not going to win any of these sure I'm not going to win any of these if I was in Personnel bones fossil would not be too happy with me because I would then be because I would be the guy that the reason why I'm doing radio is because I piss everybody off because I I'm like why why are we why are we doing this yeah and I'm not always right but I I'm not going to sit there and let somebody just rubber stamp something you know let a coach oh no we you know okay if we have to play a game we have to play a game can we put Malik Davis in there and be good with it can we put duvon in there and be good with it you know I mean you're right there's there's things about Malik Davis that you that you have to say okay he can do this he can do that but he doesn't do them as well as the other guys you were talking about sure just and and and if it goes back to if you're going to have guys designated as special teams players give me those Jeff Heath MF eers yeah you know those are the guys I want you know those are the guys that I know hell I'm going to tell you this this buddy Johnson I that might be a special team MF or the way that cat runs and gets the ball and hits people and stuff like that aming plays man he he might be like R like damn buddy Johnson who the h no 57 watch that tape yeah watch the tape every week of this guy running and making plays you know it great example ball goes the flat they're going to get a first down Pride who's running 57 running from the inside tackling the guy before they get and then they give us that oh we have a we're stopping for a virtual measurement here I'm thinking that that's a damn first down sure oh no wait a minute it's not a first down D Buddy Johnson from the inside there you know oh buddy Johnson running this guy down over here you know this guy's a ball player and when you watch tape and you see that you you're thinking like how do I get that guy on the team I think the wood kid's a ball player sure I do he it's not about interceptions and things he's had a couple it's about him just being tough him making tackles him playing downhill yeah you know and he he plays in a deep position and I'm probably just I'm probably pissing in the wind right now talking about it but that's that's the kind of guys I want on my team and sometimes these coaches will keep you from having the type of roster you need to have and I'm not and and I'm sure some coaches are going to watch this and they're gonna brought us you're full of [ __ ] and I'm fine with that you know that's that's fine but man my my roster the way I look at it I want guys that are going to every time I put them on the field there's a chance for them making a big play and I don't know if Malik Davis is that guy yeah and I didn't know if CJ Goodwin was that guy either but they tell me he is they tell me he is hey man I you know I don't want to I don't want to beat a beat a dead horse about this this whole Davis thing hopefully the right thing happens but um you know it won't it won't yeah because I asked somebody somebody on Twitter asked me like you know and I I put the I put the guys up that I think they're gonna make it from them I think Davis think he's gonna make it you know and there's some people that find a way to have four running backs on the team you know four running backs and the fifth running back be Hunter lipkey yeah there people working around but give you know if we're just doing this because so and so is a personal protector or he's a good Gunner or something I mean like yeah really okay but yeah that's not enough for me Brian I always thought that you built this team based on the dudes that could play whatever it is that they actually play and then you pull from that group of guys be like all right y'all go play teams David Helman told me that Tre Lance might be the best running back on the team well Dave Dave is being funny Trey Trey might be the second best running back you see that formation you see his formation yeah yeah yeah Dave did a shotgun he did his on Twitter he did shotgun formation yeah he had four and he had 19 next to four his asking run though bro hey look Trey Trey Lance can run with some graceon Elegance man I'm up here watching he's he's he is very graceful now Brian me now me and you had a conversation about Lance the other day like if we're in a regular season somebody needs to do XYZ and you just need somebody for one game what would you do I think it's pretty clear what we do now we go with Cooper Rush even though Trey Lance could do some great things but he'll throw five picks on your ass you'll lose that damn Game Boy I'm just telling you man the the the interception that he threw in the end zone yeah they're going to run the slant and they're going to try and get brunette they're going to try and get him behind yeah and he pulls down from the slant he's not going to throw the slant inside he never saw that Defender standing in the end zone wow he man I ran that thing back a hundred times and I watched his head he never saw that guy standing there and that's that's the thing that's the thing that just kind of kind of just makes you a little bit like oh geez what's what do you just see there but it was was that's tough man that's tough when you know you got to make that throw and you look at it and you're saying okay if you don't throw that slant throw that thing away or throw it to the back corner and throw it away sure he he didn't give himself a chance to throw because his eyes never allowed him to see that guy standing in the end zone sure I got three more comments by Trey but while you was talking had to go back to some old film last year just to just to find out what our actual punt team looked like and I couldn't find a game where we punted the last so I went to San Francisco because we did nothing but punt that damn day yeah now Hunter liy W Thomas uh Maris Bale Deon Clark 84 is Sean mckuin mckuin yeah long snpp SE yeah SE Long Snapper schoon maker and mik Jefferson so you'll probably need another guy for right here bro what's what's wrong with this group of guys right here the way we we we feel like we have to add Malik Davis to this well like I said the the whole thing maybe maybe bones fossil doesn't like 30 as his personal protector maybe that's a problem and maybe maybe he finds a way to make uh 30 have to be 40 spot or 14 spot that's what he's I my my guess my guess would be that that that he's just something something's not clicking there that he he just likes he likes Malik in that spot better than he likes W Thomas in there right now bones ain't clicking there that's what the hell ain't clicking me B bones making me sick Brian BR um back to uh Tre Lance though what I know is about Trey man and it it could just just be this offense right because if it's any other offense you know like these Shanahan type off or just let me just say jayen Herz like HTE on the Eagles right it's like a big read and maybe like a small read and then run right but Trey in this off in particular West Coast whatever you have your big read but your second read needs to be immediately after your first read and if you don't hit it you just you just behind Trey falls behind in his reads all the time he he just falls behind but he he ends up running the football If he if he's that far behind his read and he and and and bro like him end up having 90 yards rushing at the end of the day is a fantastic was it a a fantastic day for a running back Bri BR but it gets really bad in the red zone for him too like like we talked about this didn't we yeah yeah yeah like the the closer he gets to the Red Zone all l space gets real tight and then and then he falls behind on his reads Trey looks real real bad but he is improving though BR I can I I can give him that much he's improving but boy I don't want him to play in the regular season right let me tell you what that throw early on the first drive that he made to Billy Johnson the 25 yard the out the left side yeah mhm he made that's a harder throw sh up he had he had Cropper you know remember we always talk about Dak and Cooks run that deep in yeah that usually sits right between the two safeties yeah it's like Trey Trey saw the saw a Cropper on the Deep Crossing route yeah and he could have just ripped it right probably a pretty easy throw mhm instead he took the more difficult throw to the outside and he pulled it off that's Josh Allen man trade Josh Allen for real yeah see that's what I'm saying sometimes he'll make a throw where you're going oh my gosh I see yeah he's but he it's like he didn't see yeah the easier throw he said no I'm just G to take this tight rope throw on the left side for 25 yards might have been the best throw he's had all Camp yeah I mean when you look at it you're going to go holy gez but he did he gave up an easier throw to make a harder throw that's sometimes you don't see the field all that well Trey Trey has some really interesting arm Talent though because you can see the ball fly off his hands that that that very last throw uh ball can't the ball I thought it got tipped that last the interception for the for the touchdown yeah I thought it got tipped at the line he got rid of the ball it it just it fell at it like it slipped out of his hand yeah it's like he let me tell you what the um the first interception that he threw the one that they ran what we call the old green uh San Francisco Bill Walsh offense the Sprint right option where you run the out and then you kind of you kind of run a guy through to pick yeah which floro didn't do very well and then they try and run the out but the but he's it's it the the teaching on it is one two throw not one two Pat the ball yeah throw you know it's it's not that yeah and the ball was get was out late but again it's it you know you're thinking like okay this has got a this you know oh wow it's got a chance oh no quarterback was late with the ball you know and it allowed the but you know they they tried to run floro vertical and he didn't get a pick yeah he he didn't didn't affect anybody sure so but that that's the kind of thing with Trey that you but that last interception man that ball it fluttered out of his hand that ball that mean you when you watching I'm thinking like oh here we Oh I thought it got tips no it just it just exploded like a helicopter out of his hand sure yeah no chance no chance back to roster building Brian you know I feel like the tight ends got very active yesterday I feel like every last one of them did something I feel like they all did like holla BR for you know all those guys did a little something mhm are you willing to go light at tight and Bryant with the information that we have today uh it's it's looking like Ferguson John Stevens had an incredible catch on off off of an incredible throw but he fumbled at the end you can't have that um so that's a problem Brevin span Ford I feel like had a had a flash of a better day better day better day much better but you know as far as we can trust him in the regular season I I think I'm just lacking a lot of trust in this room if your name ain't ain't Ferguson for real you know um I feel like if you let a lot of these guys go they'll be they'll be available for you I feel like nobody's going to take it from and Brian that could be another angle to this thing though right watch this V says this do do you think a lot of guys or just some of these guys are are going to get cut just based on the idea that coaches may feel like okay nobody's going to going to take them from us so we could just cut them right now right we have plans for you know Princeton fan but nobody's going to take him so let's just put let's just cut him right as opposed to we're going to watch and be like man how how this dude make the team but that dude made possibly get taken or something like that Brian uh top yeah go ahead yeah I uh it's a it's a great question because every year that I was in the league there were some bad teams we were on those cowboy teams in the early 2000s we we we cut players and they we were like nobody's going to claim this team sure nobody's going to claim these guys you know and you always got to that point where you were worried about cutting guys and then coming back the Ridgeway one was I don't think the Ridgeway one was cute they just you know they did it in a way that they tried to bring I forgot who they're trying to bring back there like a receiver at the time or something Gallop it was it was a Gallop off his end Gallop yeah okay well you know you're just you're trying to like maybe there's some another Direction you could have gone there but you know I always felt like that if I was a general manager of a team and this is just me I'm not going to let you put somebody out there that I think is better than one of my guys and I'm not I'm gonna punish you for doing it too yeah and I don't know if more general managers if I was a general manager of a bad team or team that I thought was really talent to efficient I'd claim there couldn't be you couldn't stop me from claiming players sure because I I'm going to this this to me was always the second draft sec in the second draft we had the first draft Dallas looks like they did all right in the first draft look you know with the guys they got other than Thomas looks like they've done all right this first draft Yeah you put somebody out there at running back or one of these edges you know we I don't know I I I'll tell you V I'm I'm caught on real quick I'm sorry I ramble around too much for you um I was caught a little bit on Muhammad you know watch some things from Muhammad yeah and I'm watching him play and I'm like damn that was pretty good him and daxon had a really good second half yeah yeah and and you know you're kind of watching Carl lawon and you're thinking okay Carl Lawson initially okay some good things and I think Carl Lawson got tired a little bit they took him out sure but I'm watching Muhammad and I'm thinking wheat or Muhammad I'm thinking gosh this last game looks like Muhammad better than wheat so if I'm thinking about those guys but yes to your point you know you might put some of those guys out there that you won't you won't get them back but every time they ever say that yeah Wednesday morning Todd Williams walks into the room and tells us hey all our guys cleared so so Brian fantastic point right F so look Julian would probably come right back I don't think anybody's taking him or buddy John and and I'm and you might be right you might be right I I've just I think watching them because I haven't watched every single team play sure you know I I've been so focused at Camp watching the Dallas Cowboys play I I could tell you about the Rams I can tell you about the Raiders I could tell you a little bit about the Chargers but everybody else no I I can't tell you about those teams and I don't know if they would say well God you and they got that Buddy Johnson can play a little bit he might be better than our our fifth linebacker that's how I would do it whoever whoever the final running back is on this roster I would make the pro Department come in here and tell me is this guy cut better then is this guy cut better then is this guy cut better then you know I would I would uh if we're gonna keep Malik Davis you know is there somebody better tell me right now which is my point Brian I don't think deuce and floro get back to you I think if if if if those dudes are out there and look Brian you are absolutely and look I actually thought about it too like man every time we say they gonna take somebody they don't take yeah it's like yeah we Panic we're like you can't put him out there van and floi will not get back to you I sincerely believe that do you think the thing with v do you think people do you think people really I mean he he had a CH he he had a chance to be drafted he was picked in the sixth round mhm do you think people are now seeing him and saying wow he can play in the NFL or or is it or is it his some teams have those parameters or the standards of height sure and he falls well below those parameters the the problem is Brian it only it only takes one team to rob you oh I know you're right you're right so so you know if it's if it's 31 teams 18 of them can be like nah dog we Des discrimin Runnings over here but man you know I mean find me a team and look it's rough cuz I've been looking at these roster and it seemed like everybody got five running backs that's just better than ours but there is somebody that that got a running back room that's in worse shape than ours that go man I can use that kid I could use this little that that is or even better Brian last year somebody go oh man man nobody won no 55 running back but then they watch Duce this year and they go hey man run a little tougher now yeah that's I mean the point you made earlier about him running the ball there's no more dancing around behind the line of scrimmage it is like get three yards at second and seven okay next get the ball again get five yards you know there's no there's no more that there was that time where he was a and then it tackle for no gain or a minus play negative play no he's taking the ball and attacking and if he could get through and make more he is and if he has to spin once he gets up the field he's going to do that so what that tells me is that Duce vau learns lessons in four years Malik Davis ain't learn [ __ ] so let's just quit playing and just move on from the guy bro and you know and I think floro would be here anyway because he's like Brian let me ask you a question V says this who's who's your wide receivers right now let's just let's just go ahead and stop playing around and do this people out there that hate Brooks by the way Jaylen Brooks well yeah no we're not moving on fan base no we can't yeah you're right uh lamb Cooks tobert yeah Cowboy fan lamb lamb Cooks tobert Brooks is is a is obvious four we we can't say nothing about Brooks so now you got Turpin and floro as your possible five and six Brian BRS do you carry five I carried I carried six alphab I just put him in alphabetical order for my sake because that's Brooks Cooks floro lamb Tolbert Turpin you know Bri you know Brian in the draft in the draft process man Florida was like yeah man you know I got a lot of Dez Bryant to my game and I was like [ __ ] out here you got no get out of here but but but Brian he's a he's a pretty he's he's a pretty good Yak guy strong hands physical dude he block his if you let him get on the edge on that crack stuff he will crack somebody he got to got some danz to his game he's just not as yes he did he did he did you didn't want to believe it neither than any of us but uh he does have some he does have some Dez Bryant to his game for sure so Brian you got six receivers you have to go short at offensive line running back tight end I went nine went nine offensive linemen yeah I went uh tackles sure gon Richard Steel m offensive guard I went ball bass I put ball on this team let let's talk Bri let's talk Brian does awesome Richard and sorry this like a this like a cuss word for you hold on does hold on does awesome Richard and his position flexibility does that allow you to to leave that left guard because look Josh ball been moved all over the place but but but I'm sick of Josh ball and you hate the but does Austin Richard and his POS flexibility does that make you feel better about Caren one let guy I I think I think it makes me feel better better but I think that they're going to like I think they like ball that much at that they they they this this thing with this thing with Richards I think they like him more as a tackle than they do as a guard they do that's why I got ball play in the guard let me tell you why but if it was if I had to play a game yeah I think I'd put Austin Richardson there guard I think I would of course you would well I mean but but I've got bass I've got bass and ball they'll put bats in there Bri let me ask you this to to combo that with my with my earlier question that I asked you right the whole don't nobody want him Josh ball would be a perfect candidate for for for for for like nobody wants him though right like yeah you can see this world where Josh ball can play for you but just roster gymnastics wise is Josh ball a guy that you could just cut and bring him back and just Elevate him when you need it why do I think he's the ninth guy of the nine just named man because that's how they feel I'm just bet okay now now now we're getting into it here sure if you if you w to keep if you want to keep Davis get rid of get rid of ball yeah I I just know this my personal hell that I went through you put offens and defensive linemen out there people will pick those guys off and I'll tell you why because there ain't enough of them they're like who wait a minute guy he showed a little something I mean he could be our 10th guy he could be our 10th guy and I know you're not buying it a damn bit I could I have to look at you I don't even have to look at you right now to know you're not buying it look at me I'm I'm not buying it I know you're not buying it I mean that's why I'm telling you I know you're not buying it but my personal hell was we get an offensive lineman Hur and then I have to go poach somebody off a practice squad and then these coaches are reminding me yeah you know when he wanted to keep that Josh ball you jackasses you know put him on the street and he got claimed and he know you know and I'm like okay yeah you're right I'm a jackass but that I just feel like though they could they could they could probably go without Josh Ball but I I know there's going to be something that happens and I'm like okay he's inactive every week but I've got a guy that I feel because I don't Matt wetco I think has regressed if he had to give me choice of one or the other I would take B which is what I did but I didn't convince you worth a damn so I'm going to go on to the next subject your your player Personnel friends that get cussed out for for arguing with me about uh cutting Josh ball Josh hasn't done anything and and and I think the only reason he here because he got naked pitches of somebody and he and he's been moved around he's a six are you gonna go are you gonna go with eight then or are you GNA go with eight offensive linemen is that what you're going to do I honestly feel like you're GNA you're going to mess around like you did at linebacker last year and you're going to get guys hurt and not going to have enough offensive linemen I honestly feel like Brian brers so you got five BB should be first so so BB and Hoffman so that's six yeah we can talk about bass but I'll say seven cha be healthy at some point yeah so I I'll I'll call him the eighth guy yeah Austin Richard is is my nine guy Nathan is probably IR for the rest of the year type dude I I would put he has not practiced very much at all I would that patella tendonitis sounds pretty serious to me I'd go ahead and put him uh down if it was me so I'm at man Bri I'm at eight right now my my ninth guy can be look if if Josh can play right tackle and I'll just cut Wesco and I I'll carry Josh ball oh don't do it now don't don't be don't be don't be logical guy now go okay do me a favor seriously do me a favor sure play with play with eight play with eight guys play with eight guys and tell me who you would keep on that you might not I'm not talking about offensive line I'm just talking about another position or you gonna want to keep that tight you you you fell in love with the tight ends you were telling me all about these tight ends I can go less tight end I can go less tight ends but no no no you wanted to go more tight ends earlier you were like I was told you I went three and you're like oh all these tight ends did something would you for this my thing forward okay so look this is my thing I think we can go three tight ends because lipy would be a a fourth for you you know what I'm saying so if if lipy is your is your fourth tight end in my mind then your other four running backs can be uh Zeke d v um Freeman okay You're Gonna Keep Freeman I'm keeping Freeman cause cuse cause fre was better than Davis too go ahead okay so so in your mind just just I think I've got this right sure in your mind I think or in my mind excuse me I think ball is better than Freeman in your mind you're saying no BR us Freeman's better than ball more reason to have Freeman here here's my point right because Josh ball let me get this out of here Josh ball is a guy I feel like I will never have to use this season Royce Freeman with old man Zeke and hurt gyo you might need him yeah I'm you know you're not wrong about that but you know what I'm gonna do yeah I I'm if you if if we don't claim one here cut Freeman in practice squad yeah I got you yeah yeah that makes sense that makes sense unless unless somebody else unless we find a new running back yeah yeah yeah but to your to your question if I had to use eight offensive line like if I had to um I would go with your first five and I would say Hoffman and me you look I got something I got something to ask you about Hoffman and Shipley in that little fight because Hoffman looked a little weird yesterday but I tell you what Shipley looked a little better than sh looked better than but we'll talk in a second hold on uh you got your five we'll just say Hoffman right now I think bass is bass can play both guards for you I think chuma I don't know why Chum's not in the guard conversation anymore but I think chuma can play tackle and guard for you I think awesome can play tackle and and guard for you so if I only had to carry eight I think I could be fine carrying eight but if we start getting getting hurt I'm going to get fired and [ __ ] but that's just how I feel um but to your point though we was just kind of kind of alluding around this man I was watching Shipley Shipley was playing with a little bit of power yesterday man and Hoffman looked like he was having a bad day what's going on with Hoffman man I tell you what Hoffman the thing that Hoffman and this this goes back to what we were talking about with Tyler botes when you have to reach or scoop those wide techniques and I mean wide like a three technique or even a one technique it man it seems like that Hoffman just cannot get his head across those guys yeah and it seems like it's it turns into snap step have to shove have to shove no know the tackle's going to make the play you know or he's down the line going to be part of the tackle power yes athletic ability no that's what that's what that's what that's what hoppen and I and you know what maybe it was all going to be you know maybe it all was all along G to be BB you know maybe all along I mean once once they started playing I don't know if I don't know if uh Mike salori has a foot to stand on right now with that not not with Brock Hoffman he doesn't Hoffman Hoffman could could be a good backup player you're just really limited what he could do athletically yeah that's that's that's an issue man Mike salari will be lucky to have a job after I'm done with him if he tried to convince me BB uh uh uh Hoffman this whole time just for us to get the preseason game three and Shipley play better and Shipley can do some guard Center stuff too I don't I don't think Hoffman's doing much guard stuff so I don't I don't think anything going to change so please go ahead let me ask you yeah you're right about let me ask you something though okay you're not say you win eight offensive linemen yes sir would you carry an extra defensive lineman because I got nine would you go ahead and go 10 would you how many would you carry an extra Edge I mean we were talking about Muhammad we were talking about wheat would you carry one of those guys or is there another the these Corners I got you know alphabetically not Booth Carson Diggs Lewis Mamu I got five is there another one of these Corners you like so I'm looking at the dline right let me just put this up here so the so the people can see what I'm what I'm looking at here I'm looking at dline here uh Lawrence Mazy Osa I really think Micah should be like I I put him as an end I put him as an edge I just put him as an edge he he should be listed as an edge brand but when we're talking about depth and stuff I think uh we have to pretend like Micah doesn't exist you know what I'm saying in the event that he is playing linebacker I think we have to look at the edge room as if Mike is not here because the only reason we're talking about Muhammad is that we're not talking about Michael playing if Michael was a full-time Edge Muhammad would be would be cut because he's the the sixth Edge guy or or or whoever loses him versus weat would be the the um six Edge guy but if I had to go Lawrence gon nean would you say Parsons yeah Osa Mazi makes six Philips Joseph makes eight so do you and and I haven't mentioned guys like Carl law I haven't mentioned Justin Rogers Muhammad weat or or just guys outside the building I see Rogers has got better too a little bit Rogers was bad inside yeah I wonder okay that's one of those ones where if somebody if you put him on the street yeah and somebody claimed him somebody take Rogers I wouldn't be surprised somebody take Rogers I I think Rogers for his body type for his size has some has some really good movement ability yeah he does and then he can he can still be powerful in the middle I I hope nothing bad happens to Rogers in this whole process of hey we brought in lynville Joseph what and all that kind of stuff I hope nothing bad happens to Rogers here because I really like him as a young dude and I think next year is like really his time but if if if there's another candidate for damn y pinky finger broke we you're out for the season I I would love to find a way the gymnastics are way in keeping Rogers yeah see I I that that bothers me too because lynville Joseph is likely not gonna be here this this is a one-year kind of a deal 100% absolutely absolutely and so now I mean even your head coach might not be here and your defensive coordinator it might be a whole new but Rogers to me when you watch his tape as if as a pro guy when I was watching I would say that kid is not we where do we have him on the board when we were talking about the draft oh we had him as a priority free agent oh we had him wrong he was wrong that was wrong yeah it was wrong he's probably a you know he's probably a fifth sixth round guy yeah you know he he that's wrong you you mention it with the body type and the his he plays with a lot of range for a guy that big so but he's going to end up getting put on the street and we're all going to hold our breath breath and hope for the best and he'll probably end back again Todd Williams will come in and tell us we got all our guys back I think your defense is a really weird spot because we're we're making cases to go heavy at dline but I think in real life they're going to go heavy at DB and at linebacker I think the linebacker room is going to be a little thicker than we think too yeah Brad Shams got me a little worried we Brad kept you know I was on he was on with our pregame show on 1053 The F yesterday and he was like we were talking about the line backers and and he was like hey I'm just going to say this about over Shan that that hip that hip pointer maybe a little bit more significant than we got going here sure he said it twice said in the pregame and he said in the postgame yeah and Brad ain't just throwing stuff up against the wall and hope everybody listens he's he's somebody's saying keep an eye on this they might have to go long at they might have to go long at both positions I think you're right about that sure so so so where do you go short we just mentioned going going long running back I went running back and tight end is where I went short and I went I went one short traditionally for what you would do with offensive line yeah you I went one short there I went long at safety because I like wood sure I like wood as a potential guy there and I went I think maybe long a linebacker we keep usually keep four keep five yeah but I I like both Buddy Johnson that's what I'm saying I I'm a buddy I'm Buddy Johnson fan I'm the wood fan so I had to find a way to get them on so I had to go short at tight end and running back to make sure that happened one last thing so your tight ends are I went long at receiver I think I think I went long at receiver six is that too many I think I think six is about what you need at wide especially in this offense that's gonna give up running the football in the middle of the season and just throw the ball all day you probably gonna need um so Brian you're you're you're short at tight end is that three tight ends and is that Ferguson SC maker and yeah Ferguson stepen scon maker John okay so brevin's money just gonna have to get ate up and he's gonna be a pride Squad guy I'm sorry my lak house went to that young man at $250,000 I can show use that bro I can show use that to I can sure use that too man we could we could do some serious podcast and stuff for that kind of money couldn't we yeah yeah yeah yeah so hey man the roster uh the roster Cuts happened Tuesday now Brian how much urgency urgency do you think the Cowboys have and watch this how you know how do these conversations go when you weigh all right the the roster Cuts have happened bring our guys back versus oh the Jets just cut Israel AB bacondo over there or the Dolphins just cut Jeff Wilson or something right like like how do we balance bringing our guys back versus their guys see this is the fight this is where this depends on your coaching staff if you have a head coach that really believes in Personnel okay and this guy got rid of me because I fought with him every day of course his Parcels but if you brought players to the table that were better than the players we were playing with or at least let the room vote on that I mean I've seen some wild highlight tapes yeah you know guys trying to S hey we've got this this corner this guy from the Chiefs let me tell you and then you making this tape up and he's knocking every ball down you're like going okay where are the other plays where are the other plays in the tape you know but a lot of it depends on your coach if your head coach is willing you could be super aggressive and I think the Cowboys for the most part have been aggressive I with the additions all the they've think about what they've done since training camp they've completely remade sure their defensive line you know with so my hope hope my hope is that will still has the hammer and if anab bandic Canda from the Jets what's his name BR anab Banda yeah yeah yeah I that's I said it right anaba Pittsburgh you you're GNA what what you call him Charlie chips you have some cute name for these guys like Jeffrey Jiffy cornbread Jenkins there you go I know people love that one when you do that one yeah uh this this is terrible to say you what was our what was our special God why am I drawing a blank our special teams coach that Joe D camillis yeah Joe D camillis used to come up one and his was oh Joe [ __ ] the ragman his guy his guy was always I ain't I ain't let nobody call me that we got a fight like he like he's like you know they've got this guy Joe [ __ ] the ragman you know I looked at him one time he goes you know what I'm talking about right I'm like yeah I know you're talking about but Joe [ __ ] the ragman but as Jeff yeah exactly Jeffy but if you um you know if you have a coach that's willing to to be aggressive you know to be to be that guy to you know say okay yeah we need we could be better at running I mean it's going to hurt somebody's feelings yeah you know Mike McCarthy is probably going to have to hurt both own fossil's feelings yeah but but for the betterment of the program now the fact that Mike doesn't have a full-time full contract after this year yeah he might just say let you let uh let bones fossil have whoever he wants I'm not going to fight him on this one I hope that's not the case I know it's going to be a lot of running back movement um because you I mean you can only carry you can only carry so many guys you know and I'm I'm constantly going back to the Jets I'm constantly going back to the Dolphins cuz both cuz both those guys double down at at running back in the draft um so it'll be interesting to see who's left off that team and it just sucks that the Cowboys can you know whoever that they don't want is better than than who we have but I man I I'll tell you it's it's hard because these teams fall in love with their players yeah they do they just do not you know you don't want to upset the coaches even though you need to upset the coaches there's sometimes it's like listen trust me I mean if you're you know if you're Mike uh you know if you're Mike McCarthy and and and Mike Zimmer and those guys on defense I don't know how you couldn't say that will and Alex Lumis and those guys in the Pro Department haven't helped the defense sure I don't know how you cannot say that you know if you do then you're just you know you're being you're being as I like to say to Bobby dug in yeah but you know that's where this thing's at they've gota they got to figure that out and they and if you trust your pro Department that you know you're going to there's better guys that we can bring into our team man go for it go for it there's I I second draft the Cowboys look like they're winning the first draft now go have a second draft go add two or three guys more to this team that we what we haven't even talked about yeah andab bandic Canda running back Pittsburgh with New York Jets who's got no spot and their people are kind of whispering like man I don't know where this a good kid and Pro Football Focus if you believe their metrics number one rated back in the preseason I know might cost you something but I'd sure I'd sure make a call to my my guys over there at the in Gotham and see if they uh they're interested in trading that running back Duce has to be your last running back because he's your second kick return guy right mhm I think I think Cropper worked himself out I think deran worked has worked himself out of that conversation uh Tyron Billy Johnson's about to go you know play for his next team or whatnot so it's exact it's got to be V right so yeah okay cool yeah yeah yeah well Brian BR as long as Malik Davis don't take duvon spot I guess I ain't got too much mean to say about it but I do think that some of these some of these Defenders will uh have coaches fighting for him you know yeah and um hey man we'll see we'll we'll see what happens Tuesday me and BR us are going to be there of course to give y'all the rund down and tell y'all uh if the Cowboys are smart or if they goofy as hell for for cutting a player that should be on the team uh anything else before we go out there BR no man I am uh like I say I am looking forward to uh you know the next couple of days there'll be a lot of whispering a lot of these are when you'll start making some calls too you're throw you're throwing a lot of chum this when Jerry Jones would Stephen Jones would look at me and go okay start calling teams yeah and you know you start you start you know you have an idea of what players you have an idea of what players you want to going to move on from on Tuesday and you call these teams and you say Hey listen here's some guys if you got any interest in these guys let me know but I would call every single team and try and and talk about you know hell I almost one time had TJ houman's AO traded for but it didn't work out but that's the kind of thing when you make these conversations with other teams then you you can find like oh hey they're interested in moving this guy or hey we'd like this guy or hey they'll take a fifth round pick for this guy this next two days before the the cut down you can you can throw a lot of chum in the water and really kind of drive this thing in the direction where you maybe can grab a guy or two and hopefully the Cowboys uh will take advantage of that and we appreciate y'all for not cutting us loosen this process you know what I mean I know it's easy for y'all to be like man forget BR us forget what V lomard but if y'all love the show man we we we we appreciate y'all for loving the show thanks for uh for tapping in I'm a little more active on Twitter by the way so y'all can follow me at my V if y'all want to follow br br r y n BRS not b r i an bro that's a whole another character he BR R YN BR uh and yeah man we'll catch y'all next time man y'all hold down for the DOI wki till next time crown [Music] [Applause] [Music]